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Speaker 1: Welcome into a special edition of The Daily Juice. It

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Speaker 1: is a live video edition and it is a podcast edition.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt Paroltic. Can follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Sports Talk Matt. Every morning the Daily Juice dropped.

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Speaker 1: This is very special and our guy Dave share Pan,

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Speaker 1: a guy who's been around this betting game for a

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Speaker 1: long time's been kind enough to come in here, both

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Speaker 1: video and with audio, a special edition of The Daily

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Speaker 1: Juice for a new year. Six Bowl games. We got

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Speaker 1: six big ones to break it down. Dave, thanks for

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Speaker 1: the time. Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, you know how we do. We're excited to

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Speaker 2: be here. This is going to be a blast, and

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Speaker 2: you know everything's up in the air with the Bowl

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Speaker 2: games and who's playing what. But at least we have matchups,

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Speaker 2: we have lines, and we have you know, a little

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Speaker 2: bit of time to talk about them, so you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll get we'll get a little bit into some New

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Speaker 2: Year's Day stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so six games here, and we don't know really

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Speaker 1: at the time of taping. We're gonna give you numbers

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Speaker 1: that we have at the time of taping, which is

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Speaker 1: obviously a couple days before Christmas, and well, these games

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Speaker 1: could be scratched. Now we hope that they're not going

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Speaker 1: to be. But teams are opting out, players are opting out.

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Speaker 1: That's my first question to you, Dave, in terms of

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Speaker 1: both being on either side of the counter, how do

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Speaker 1: you deal with this season in the bowl year, because

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Speaker 1: normally this is an awesome time to bet, but now

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Speaker 1: it feels like it's a minefield.

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Speaker 2: It's brutal. There's just no other way to say it.

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Speaker 2: I think of the six games we have, I would

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Speaker 2: make all the games being played a favorite, but I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't make it like minus five dollars. I think we

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Speaker 2: can make it cautiously like minus two fifty because anything

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Speaker 2: can happen between now and then. So and as far

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Speaker 2: as bettingham, you got to be careful, like you know,

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Speaker 2: because if a major player has any indication that something's up,

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Speaker 2: they're opting out. We have already seen teams opt out.

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Speaker 2: Army can't get in a bowl game and all they

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Speaker 2: want to do is play, and teams are stepping back

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Speaker 2: and not saying you know, when would you ever think

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Speaker 2: we're not going to Bowl games. So it's all up

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Speaker 2: in the air. But I think the six that we

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Speaker 2: got at least, I think are pretty core games, big

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Speaker 2: impactful games. Obviously the playoff games as well. I think

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Speaker 2: all of our games will be played.

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Speaker 1: Does it matter to you that the Rose Bull has

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Speaker 1: been moved from California to Texas? Does that make any

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Speaker 1: any difference to you if a Bowl game's not played

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Speaker 1: where it normally is played.

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Speaker 2: No, just from the fans standpoint. If there were fans,

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Speaker 2: it would matter, But for this matchup, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: They could play this game on the moon. Bama is

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Speaker 2: still a big favorite, and it's not changing anything. The

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Speaker 2: only thing it might change is if it moved closer

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Speaker 2: in a point spread, you know, you would kind of go,

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Speaker 2: all right, they're gonna either stay come earlier, stay later.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have more fans there. It might jump the

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Speaker 2: otherwise no, it has no effect.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the Cotton Bowl. It is

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Speaker 1: number six Oklahoma against number seven Florida. This game we

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Speaker 1: played in December, the third at seven point fifteen Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: So the number here opened up and it has not

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Speaker 1: I don't blame anybody that says, well, wait, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just I'm concerned that we're not going to see

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Speaker 1: and you're going to take the over. You may play

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Speaker 1: pay a little extra juice here, So I guess let's

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Speaker 1: start with the total, Dave. They're expecting a lot of

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Speaker 2: And it's not surprising if you saw any of the

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Speaker 2: SEC Championship game. Florida can score and score quickly. Malahoma

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Speaker 2: you make this number? Florida Oklahoma? Wow, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: MS will be one hundred. That's what always always used

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Speaker 2: to say, because they're going to score points. Uh, getting

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Speaker 2: at least going to get there early. Move there not

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised at the Flora. First number that came

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Speaker 2: lot of questions, like I don't know who Oklahoma is.

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Speaker 2: You think they're this and and they've played pretty well

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Speaker 2: since they're early you know stumbles. They beat Iowa State,

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Speaker 2: at that, I expect more bets to come in on Florida.

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Speaker 2: And if you're gonna probably lay Florida, you want to

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Speaker 2: probably going to four at some point.

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Speaker 1: So Dave sharapins everywhere. Guys, if you have not seen

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Speaker 1: him do media appearances, the dude used to did my

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Speaker 1: radio show first, and now he literally does everyone's radio show.

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Speaker 2: You were a slagboard.

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Speaker 1: I was the springboard. Yes, I was the beginning. I

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Speaker 1: was there at the beginning in terms of where you

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Speaker 1: is everyone on the same page that this game is

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Speaker 1: going to be an overplay Because the more that I

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Speaker 2: You know, it's what we do. I mean, we've talked.

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Speaker 2: it on game day, eighty percenters, eighty five percenters, all

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Speaker 1: The thing to me that I wonder about is Florida's

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Speaker 1: So Kyle Trask is still really good. And I know

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this, David. I'm gonna sit back and

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Speaker 1: watch the public bet this thing up to eighty and

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Speaker 1: Ould favor of Florida, I would take the would lay

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Speaker 1: on it up and down to take aside on either

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Speaker 1: all right, Peach Bowl January. First, it's Cincinnati against Georgia,

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Speaker 1: Number eight, Cincinnati, number nine Georgia. It's a twelve thirty

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati's in this game, and it's really annoying because I

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati is five and four to the number. This year,

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Speaker 1: Georgia is four and five to the number. Sincy did

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Speaker 1: not cover their last two games. They're fired by four

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Speaker 1: I think everyone expects since you to get killed here.

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Speaker 1: think Cincinnati might be able to hang around. But the

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Speaker 1: number open at eight, it's now seven. Total was fifty

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Speaker 1: three and a half and it's now fifty in some

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Speaker 1: places right now, everyone's expecting this Georgia team to play

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Speaker 1: defense like they normally do and then Sincy to match it,

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Speaker 1: which looks easier a better play to you, Dave Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: or since he's favored in this game? WHOA, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry I read that wrong.

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Speaker 2: I thought no, no, no, Georgia's favorite.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. So I'm looking at this crooked now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so Georgia is favorite. All right, So the website is

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Speaker 2: We'll get over there.

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Speaker 1: How is that possible? Okay, there we go. So that

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Speaker 1: that's not that's not an accurate number. So now it's seven.

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Speaker 1: So Georgia minus seven or the under fifty to fifty

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Speaker 2: So you're got kind of play out the game how

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Speaker 2: you think it's going to play out. So if you

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Speaker 2: think that since he is going to score enough with Georgia,

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Speaker 2: I mean, since he can put points on the board,

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Speaker 2: the question is can they stop an SEC quote unquote

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Speaker 2: powerhouse in Georgia. But Georgia's offense is not a powerhouse.

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Speaker 2: They're not the SEC that you know the game we

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Speaker 1: You know, our mutual friend Rex Byers was over at

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Speaker 1: And that's how I feel about this. It's like you

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Speaker 1: And Georgia, you're gonna be kidding. It's it's it's homecoming, right,

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Speaker 1: It's the Rose Bowl. Alabama and Notre Dame. We talked

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Speaker 1: You can probably find nineteen and a half right now

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Speaker 2: This isn't a playoff game. This is an exhibition game.

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Speaker 2: Like this is a tune up game. This is a

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Speaker 2: not the committee's job to find, you know, the matchup.

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Speaker 1: So they can't stop Alabama. And I mean, I'm really

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Speaker 2: They can score on any play from anywhere on the field.

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Speaker 2: With Lawrence, they may not have been able to do that.

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Speaker 2: They had to get drives and move the ball. I mean,

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Speaker 1: So here's my one question in this game. Why the

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Speaker 1: saying like the Iris aren't going to score. Ian book's

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Speaker 2: Yes, it does. You're kind of picking with the total,

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Speaker 2: the game. You know, where you think Notre Dame's scoring

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Speaker 2: And you can play it that way because I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: When does Alabama not put up fifty? They put up

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Speaker 2: We've done a lot of shows together. I've seen you

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Speaker 2: That's why the number hasn't moved, because nobody really knows

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Speaker 2: that's what Bama susceptible to is big plays. It's hard

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Speaker 2: If you can't score on one or two plays or

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Speaker 1: Interesting, we're breaking down the New Year six Bowl games

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Speaker 1: But Cincinnati minus seven. I'm sorry. Plus seven is probably

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Speaker 2: It depends what it is. If it's really low, if

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Speaker 2: it's you know, thirteen and a half, you're probably going over.

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Speaker 2: I think they get two scores. But if it's seventeen

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Speaker 1: Play twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Then for Bama, Oh yeah, there's at least twenty one.

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Speaker 2: I think you gotta get to twenty four for me

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Speaker 2: five minimum. They hang fifty burgers on everybody. Why are

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Speaker 1: Well, you gotta remember something. Notre Dame is in the

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Speaker 1: There is deep, deep hatred for the Notre Dame football program,

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Speaker 1: going back to the you the old UPI national championship

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Speaker 1: realize that down there, getting Notre Dame is like it's

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Speaker 2: Like they're gonna go after You're laying it even more

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Speaker 2: now we're laying at that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I I already was. I mean, I I'm

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Speaker 1: But this is not Florida. Okay. The Notre Dame's defense

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Speaker 1: is people are gonna go this is a national semi final.

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00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Bama could score sixty, legitimately score sixty and

433
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 1: not stop and not put and not pull out. You know,

434
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 1: still have Naje Harris in the game, and still have

435
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,400
Speaker 1: Mac Jones in the game, and still a Devata Smith

436
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,439
Speaker 1: in the game. Like they don't. They're not going to

437
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 1: stop in this game, right, They're gonna gonna put up

438
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 1: something of like a John Madden type of Madden twenty twenty.

439
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: The score year on Notre Dame. I think it's ugly, ugly, ugly.

440
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 1: Now on the other side, the second championship game, the

441
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: second semi final happening that night after Bama Notre Dame,

442
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: we go Clemson Ohio State. I think these games do

443
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 1: actually correlate a little bit because they're gonna watch each other,

444
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 1: and so you're gonna have Clemson watching Alabama, and Clemson

445
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 1: now up against Ohio State. The line opened up at twenty,

446
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: opened up, sorry, at seven and a half. It then

447
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: it's gone up a little bit to eight. I believe

448
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 1: it's most books. Sixty four and a half a total

449
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 1: that opened, and then sixty five and a half is

450
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 1: where it currently sits from a total. Now, Clemson obviously

451
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 1: destroying most people in their path this year against the number,

452
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 1: they've been great, but when Lawrence got COVID, things went

453
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: a little bit sideways. They're five and six to the number.

454
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State is three and three to the number. Northwestern

455
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 1: the latest team that got after Ohio State and took

456
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 1: them all the way to the end, right. I mean

457
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 1: that was a tight game, sixteen and a half point line.

458
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: They win by twelve. Ohio State does not cover. And

459
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: then Notre Dame got killed by Clemson. Tech got killed

460
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: by Clemson. Pittsburgh got killed by Clemson. Thirty five, thirty five,

461
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 1: twenty four. They're just crushing people here. Am I wrong

462
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 1: to think that Clemson's know, annihilated Ohio State?

463
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean we got to kind

464
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 2: of discount what we saw in the Big Ten championship

465
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: game because they got all those COVID kids.

466
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: You know, had so and Krislob is a big deal.

467
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,479
Speaker 1: I didn't bet the game because of Chris.

468
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you throw in kids that maybe haven't worked together,

469
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 2: get the reps together. You know, they were disjointed. They

470
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 2: got through it by running the ball. They ran the

471
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: ball and won that game against Northwestern, they didn't throw

472
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 2: the ball. That's the worst fields has ever looked, I

473
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: think ever, and that put the doubt in a lot

474
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: of people's minds. This number wouldn't have been this high

475
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: had Ohio State won and covered against Northwestern. They looked

476
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 2: as bad as they've looked in the entire season. Against Northwestern,

477
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,479
Speaker 2: they were trailing at halftime. I mean it was it

478
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: was in doubt that they could actually lose the game.

479
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, it looks like Clemson is just gonna, you know,

480
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: punch the ticket to the final and go through Ohio State.

481
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm surprised the totals this high, I really am. I

482
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: thought this was a you know, around a sixty number,

483
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 2: fifty nine and a half sixty, So sixty five and

484
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: a half. Again, I always try to think what the

485
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: dog is gonna score if Ohio State doesn't figure it

486
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: out between what they just did in that Big Ten

487
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: championship and playing Clemson, about alternate ways to move the ball.

488
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: They can't get in third and long situations, they're not

489
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: gonna get They're gonna get off the field. Well, then

490
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: Ohio State's defense is gonna get tired quicker, and Clemson's

491
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: gonna big play score, big play score. This bad boy

492
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: gets away from them. They get down fourteen to seventeen

493
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: points early. It's like you said, they're going downhill and

494
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: it's over. It's a rap you're looking to take like

495
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: twenty eight in game with Ohio State hoping to keep

496
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: it within some ridiculous number because they're not coming back.

497
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 2: They have to match them and keep it down. So

498
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 2: the only way Ohio State can peats, I think is

499
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: the is to play really strong defensively and sustained drives,

500
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: which I think is asking them to do something they're

501
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: not capable of doing. So I'm with you, I think Clemson.

502
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: You know, I'm already trying to come up with the

503
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: line for Bama Clemson. That's that. That was involving my

504
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: work today with all my buddies. I was like, what

505
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: do you make it? What do you make it? What

506
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 2: do you make it? And we had a bunch of

507
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: debates via text, you know, between Rexy Murray, you know,

508
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 2: a couple other guys Yeah, we were trading. We were

509
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: trading it all around, just to see what we're thinking

510
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 2: right now.

511
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: Defenss uh six.

512
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: And a half or seven Bam six and a half

513
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: or seven Bama favor, depending on how it looks like

514
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: we're taking for granted that Bama runs out Notre Dame.

515
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 2: If Clemson runs out, you might have to put up

516
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: a six and a half because the first bet comes

517
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: hard on seven. If Clemson in Ohio State is a game,

518
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: it's seven, maybe even seven and a half. We were

519
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: kind of going around, put it on the number and

520
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: let you know the bad guys, like I always like

521
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: to say, the guys that bet bags of money, let

522
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: them determine which way you're gonna go. So you give

523
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: them an option. You put the seven and a half,

524
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: let them take it. You put six and a half,

525
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: let them lay it rather than just put seven and

526
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: let it stale. You want to you want to see

527
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: what they're thinking. First of all, by putting the first

528
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: number up.

529
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: Do the bad guys ever buy a half a point?

530
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: No? Never, never. The only time the only time is

531
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: on three in the NFL. That's the only time that

532
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: they've let really that I've experienced it and it has

533
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: to not be a premium. They're all about the juice.

534
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: You mean you want to talk about the daily juice.

535
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: They're all about the juice. If they have to lay

536
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: any extra that they don't think is right they buying it,

537
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: they'd rather take the number and then, you know, let

538
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: it move a certain way.

539
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Interesting. So Bama Clemson right now looks like six and

540
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: a half in the National Championship. If it happens, it

541
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: would be Bama favorite.

542
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I like it.

543
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: I still bet Bama. And and that's why, like, I

544
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: love that the circa here in Las Vegas does the

545
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: yes no stuff where you can.

546
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: No.

547
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: It's almost Bama's a plus one eighty on the know

548
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: right now to not win the National Championship to yes,

549
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: it's minas two thirty. And it's almost like you want

550
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: to throw some dollars down in the know just in

551
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: case something funky happens, because it just feels so inevitable

552
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: that Alabama's gonna win the National Championship. But you know,

553
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, this could start the dream, This could start

554
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: the legend of Trevor if him, as a big underdog,

555
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: takes Clemson without having the same weapons as last year

556
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: and goes no t Higgins and whatnot. You know, none

557
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: of these big weapons he's had in the past. His

558
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: receivers are good, but they're not the same level. ETM

559
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: is incredible, But like, does he able just on Trevor's arm?

560
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: Throw past Alabama would be I'll tell you one thing.

561
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm taking the over. Whatever the number is, it's on Alabama.

562
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm betting the over, no doubt.

563
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: There's no who stop and who forget.

564
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: About set that number and I'm I'm betting the over.

565
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I got a text from back

566
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: East this morning. The Bama to win it all was

567
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: minus one sixty on the Yes back East and it's

568
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: minus two thirty at the CIRCA. That's a huge difference.

569
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: It pays so much to shop around if you're in

570
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: different states. Yeah, prices. Now that indicates to me that

571
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: Metcalf and the boys think that BAM is gonna win

572
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: and they're getting some plus money on the know now

573
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: because it ain't coming. I mean, like, what are they

574
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: gonna do against Notre Dame. They're not gonna look worse,

575
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: They're not gonna You're not gonna go oh wow. They

576
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: could lose to Clemson. There's nothing gonna show that that.

577
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: So they got that number a little bit, peaked higher

578
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: and back east minus one sixty early textas morning I said,

579
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 2: I said, you gotta lay it.

580
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's him, boy, that's incredible value. Yeah, And unfortunately,

581
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: until we get rid of the wire rack, we can't

582
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: bet interstates. Hopefully someday we can do that. Living in Nevetto,

583
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: we can take advantage of that number because shopping for

584
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: lines definitely does pay off. All right to January second ago,

585
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: we got two more games to go. Here on a

586
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: New or six preview, we've got Oregon at number twenty

587
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: five in the country, taken on Iowa State in the

588
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl. It's a four pm Eastern time start time.

589
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: This game. I can't stand this game. Iowa State opened

590
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: up at a minus three favorite here the money came

591
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: in on the Cyclones. It's now four and a half.

592
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: The total opened up at fifty three and a half.

593
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: It's been steamed all the way up to fifty seven

594
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: now at most places, Iowa State does not belong in

595
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: this game. Oregon really doesn't either. And I'm boycotting this game.

596
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm not betting this game. Dave on principle because I

597
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: hate this football game.

598
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm with you. I was hoping you maybe had

599
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: something because I know your feelings for Iowa State.

600
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm blinded by I was right. Take this, I mean

601
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: take I said bet Oklahoma. I wasn't gonna bet it

602
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: because I thought I was wrong. I mean, they barely covered.

603
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: Iowa State was driving with the football and then brought

604
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: party through the interception and late in the game there

605
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: that sealed the six point victory for Oklahoma. So it

606
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: wasn't like it was a runaway that I thought it

607
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: was going to be. But it was still a cover

608
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma. But I mean, look, this is this is

609
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, a little legitimately for Iowa State. I

610
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: mean they never played in the Fiesta Bowl. I mean,

611
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: this is you don't expect. You know, this is what happens, right,

612
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's not what you expect when

613
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: you go play for Iowa State. You don't expect to

614
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: play in Fiesta Bowls. They don't belong here. I think

615
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Gary Barta has done his friends and aims a insane favor.

616
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't know who he paid off, I don't know

617
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: what he did. I don't know how he got it done,

618
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: but the ad of Iowa got Iowa State into a

619
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: New Year's six Bowl game with two freaking losses three

620
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: excuse me, three losses.

621
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 2: Three losses in the championship game in do we ever?

622
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: Do we ever stop to talk about that? A three

623
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: loss team right now is playing in the Fiesta Bowl?

624
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: What is happening here? If I had to bet it,

625
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: give me the points with Oregon. But this game makes

626
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: me angry.

627
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I with you as well. I would take

628
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: the points only because I have no idea what to

629
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: expect from either team motivation wise. I mean, yeah, Oregon

630
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: won that game, but had they not won that game,

631
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: they would have opted out just like USC did. We're

632
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: going to that Bowl or no bull? And okay, so

633
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: now you won, Now you want to play all right?

634
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: Iowa State? You know, yes they were driving, but it

635
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: didn't feel like they were the right side of that

636
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: game for the majority of that game. It's a big

637
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: deal for them, though, so like I don't know, maybe

638
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: they sell it the way they closed this season out

639
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: as a first time in history doing something and I

640
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 2: don't understand the line move this early. I have no

641
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: idea what that line move was from whether it was

642
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: you know, sharp play bad guy playing. I have no idea,

643
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: but I'm with you. I don't. I don't have a

644
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: side or a feel for the total here at all.

645
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: No, not at all. And so the last game of

646
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: our New Year six Orange Bowl. I love this game.

647
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: Texas A and M against number thirteen, or five A

648
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: and M against number thirteen North Carolina. You got offense, offense, offense,

649
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: this number. I can't believe the number. The total is

650
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: coming down. It opened up seven and a half, it

651
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: opened up A and M minus five. It's now A

652
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: and M minus seven, and the total is at sixty

653
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: nine right now, and sixty eight and a half. I'm

654
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: looking to at DraftKings right now. Sixty eight and a

655
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: half for North Carolina in Texas A and M. I

656
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: thought it would go the other way. I guess the

657
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: theory is A and M is gonna play defense here,

658
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, give me as many points as possible.

659
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: I like North Carolina here in this game. If I

660
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: can get over a touchdown for North Carolina. Maybe it's

661
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: just I'm not valuing A and M all that much.

662
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 1: And I don't love Kellen Mond. I don't think he's

663
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback, although he'll probably get drafted by one

664
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Speaker 1: by a team. I like North Carolina here plus seven

665
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: where you live.

666
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: First thought with this one is I like A and M.

667
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: I think Jimbo is going to sell them all on,

668
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: Well they left us out of that thing. Let's show

669
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: them why they should have put us in it. Like

670
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: I just think Jimbo's his history has been a cover guy.

671
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: He's gonna he there's no taking the foot off the gas. Ever,

672
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: sixty nine in this game surprising. I thought it would

673
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: be higher, and I'm with you. I mean, who's gonna

674
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: stop who here? This is probably whoever has the ball

675
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: last wins or if someone is a plus two in

676
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: the turnover ratio, so somebody goes three to one, four

677
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: to two or two zero, that's who's probably going to win.

678
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: It's that simple. Both teams. How do both teams not

679
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: get in the thirties here?

680
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: So I think I think what it is. I think

681
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: the move to the under is because of what happened

682
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: against the Irish and nor Dame scored sorry North Carolina

683
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: scored on their first two possessions and then did nothing.

684
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: Shut down.

685
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: It was like touchdown touchdown. Everybody was on the over

686
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: of that game. Coulding me. I was on the over

687
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: in that game, right, And then the tar Hills just

688
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: stopped scoring and it was like, what the heck just happened?

689
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: Like they were doing it easily. So I think that's

690
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: what people got burned there. So they say, Okay, here

691
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: comes into the matchup with a halfway decent defense and

692
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: SDC defense and they're not gonna be able to handle it.

693
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I think both teams score in

694
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: the thirties.

695
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: Both teams. Yeah, I don't know what happened to the SEC.

696
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: It used to be a defensive conference. It's not even

697
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: close to a defensive conference. Now there's like one team,

698
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: maybe two that actually play defense, and it's maybe let's

699
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: score fifty and we're just gonna outscore you. Well, that's

700
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: North Carolina's game. So it makes perfect sense to take

701
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: the dog in a situation like that, where you think

702
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: it's going to be a back and forth game and

703
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: both teams are going to keep up with each other,

704
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: you grab the points and hope that you're either driving

705
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: for the cover, driving for the win, or the other

706
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 2: team has to drive to get the cover against you

707
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: at the end, like that's the way these games go.

708
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: We see it, you know, so many times with some

709
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: other college games or in the NFL. We don't know.

710
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: You know, the line is pretty you know, accurate to start,

711
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: and you kind of get to go, all right, well,

712
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: what's going to happen? And it's a one possession game

713
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: to flip the line and it's usually coming down to

714
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: the end.

715
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Well, look, they were favored by three, they were catching

716
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 1: three against Miami in their last game in North Carolina

717
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: won by thirty six points, so that they at least

718
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: their offense was clicking. At the end of the year

719
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: five and four, A and M. They'd covered three of

720
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: the last four games. They covered. Against Tennessee, it was

721
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: a game that I was pretty heavy on, so I

722
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: think that worked out well for me. Auburn they won

723
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: that game by eleven. That was a little bit of

724
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: a surprise, the double digit win over Auburn as five

725
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: point road favorites. And then they won by thirteen against

726
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: LSU as sixteen point favorites. And they beat South Carolina

727
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: by forty five points as nine and a half point favorite.

728
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: So A and M has been doing a good job

729
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: against the number as a favorite over the last couple

730
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: of weeks. They've only been a dog twice this season

731
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 1: against Alabama and they lost by twenty eight. And then

732
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: they were dogged to Florida the next week and they

733
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: won by three. So I had A and M. If

734
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: you told me A and M was in the playoffs,

735
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: I would have had no problem with A and M

736
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: getting in as a one loss team and losing to

737
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: Alabama as they only loss.

738
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: I just he's in a problem for you that it's

739
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: round two like that, that's just what the argument is

740
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: to keep them out. Well, we already saw that game.

741
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: Well, so what that was beginning of the season, right,

742
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: I saw that game on the third of October. You

743
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: know it's now the twenty first of December. Things things

744
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: change quite rapidly here. I mean going into the year,

745
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle was the Heisman Trophy favorite for Alabama, right,

746
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt in week three. So like

747
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: there's all different things that happened throughout the course of

748
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: the season. Mac Jones wasn't a Heisman tru I mean,

749
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: mac Jones wasn't drafted. Really. He was like, oh crap,

750
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: we have this guy mac Jones behind tua, Are we

751
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna be able to play well? And then mac Jones

752
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: turns into Joe Burrow two point zero, and now it's like,

753
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, look at mac Jones. And then you

754
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: got Jalen Wattle when you forget about Davante Smith and

755
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: he's the best receiver in the country. And oh yeah,

756
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: by the way, the fifth number one no draft pick

757
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: running backs coming out of Alabama and like the next

758
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Derreck Henry is Naje Harris running the football. So like

759
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: things develop, as the year goes on on, we get

760
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: different things. So I don't care A and M lost already.

761
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean we we almost had Notre Dame Clemson two

762
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: play zero, So like why is Notre Dame man? If

763
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: we were concerned about.

764
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: That exactly, And like the line, the line would be different,

765
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 2: the game would be different everything. It's the same uniforms,

766
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: it's the same coaches, but it's a different game. So

767
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: when I hear the committee talk about you know, or

768
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: people coming out of that room and like dropping that

769
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: story kind of like, well they didn't want to see

770
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: that match up again, Well, I'd rather see that match

771
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: up again because A and M is better than they

772
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: were when they played them the first time. BAM is

773
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: a superstar team, and I want to see them challenged

774
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: at least in the game. The only team I think

775
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: that would challenge. I would rather have Cinci go there

776
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: and be a twenty one point dog and you know

777
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: what you're getting, but at least you're given a sense

778
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 2: of a shot. I don't want to see Notre Dame

779
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: get in there. We saw what they did already. It's unfair.

780
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: You know they lost late. It's the rules. That's the rules. Like,

781
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: this is what it is. You're better at the end,

782
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: you get to play. If you're you know, worse at

783
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: the end, you get to go to a different bowl game.

784
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: But put them in against Alabama. It's not a waste

785
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: of all of our time, but man, it just takes

786
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: away an engaging matchup that I think would be better.

787
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: Well we could have set this four years ago, right,

788
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we need to play these games. Really,

789
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean, going into the year, what do we all say, Okay, Alabama, Clemson,

790
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: they play for it all? Like what, we're devaluing everything

791
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: because we all are getting everything. We know what's gonna happen.

792
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: It's become very predictable and boring, and that's why the

793
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: eighteen playoff has to happen, because at least you make

794
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: the road more difficult for Alabama or a Clemson or

795
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: somebody of that ilk where a major injury might happen

796
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: or a major mistake might happen, and all of a sudden,

797
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: they either lose or they go into a game with

798
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: a totally different setup because their quarterbacks hurt or whatever.

799
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: You just don't give it's too We've already seen the story.

800
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: The ending's already there, We've already watched the movie. Where

801
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: we're bored by the movie. We want to see something new,

802
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: we want to watch. I mean, it's a made for

803
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: TV event anyway, So I know Notre Dame wants in.

804
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they all sold us because I've been you know,

805
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: I've been doing this topic on the radio for twenty

806
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: years about playoff, playoff, playoff, and they finally gave us

807
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: a four team playoff, which in turn really became They

808
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: added one game to the entire season. That's all they did.

809
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: And so they're like, okay, fine, we'll put one more

810
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: game on the schedule and call it a playoff. But

811
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: really it's an invitational. It's not a playoff because there's

812
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: no there's no way of getting into it unless they

813
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: invite you to it. So that's a problem. And I

814
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: just really want them to take a hard look at

815
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: the automatic bids to say, if you win the Pac twelve,

816
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: you win the Big twelve, you're in, and then you

817
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: can argue about the other three at large bids and

818
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: you'll have your controversy talk there. But at least we've

819
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: got five teams with a guaranteed ticket to play for

820
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: the championship, which is something we've asked for forever.

821
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: Did the bull games go away in that situation? Like?

822
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: Did they now because of COVID right watching all these

823
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: things go away? Are we any Are we any worse

824
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: because the ball games aren't happening or these teams are

825
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: opting out?

826
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: I don't.

827
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: I think the vast majority the gambling public's bummed out

828
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: about it. But I think the vast majority of the

829
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: public will be like, oh, how many bowl games do

830
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: we have?

831
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: Ten?

832
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: Okay? Like, I don't think people are going to care.

833
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: Like, I think you'll make the handle stronger for ten

834
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 2: or twelve quality games, then thirty two get games Like, listen,

835
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: you're rewarding the kids, Like I know, I mean I

836
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: went to Penn State, and I know how important the

837
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 2: Bowl game is to a lot of kids because it's

838
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: the biggest game they're going to play in. Even if

839
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: it's not a playoff game, it was still they got

840
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: to go to the Orange Bowl or or you know,

841
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: the Holiday Bowl in San Diego was a big deal.

842
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: That was the first ball game that I went to.

843
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: And like the kids, it was a huge deal. They

844
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: got the swag bag, they got to go to San Diego.

845
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: Some of the most of them have never been to California,

846
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: so it was a big deal for the kids. But

847
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: like for the sport and for the whole business thing,

848
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: like the Myrtle Beach bull was today, who's betting that? Like,

849
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: nobody's betting that. There's six people more.

850
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who bet it actually,

851
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: because the over was a guarantee.

852
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: It was a lock, right the only third quarter.

853
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, so from the standpoint, you're like, I gotta

854
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: put this stumber up.

855
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: You get one way action and it's a railroad. You

856
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: have no shot. You can make the number on that

857
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: game seventy five. It's going over, and you know it.

858
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: The betters know it. Basically, you're you're giving everyone a

859
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: kind of an upfront loan to come back and bet

860
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: on these games. At least you. It's a tougher it's

861
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: a tougher deal.

862
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: It's a great point. And yeah, I'm with you on

863
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: the terms of uh cold weather teams bowl games. I

864
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: learned this when I started covering the Big Ten of

865
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, more so than Alabama, because Bama fans

866
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: would go anywhere. You could play Bama football in Mexico,

867
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: in Europe, you could play in you know, in our

868
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: in our ago. It doesn't matter.

869
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: They go anywhere.

870
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: But like the Iowa fans legitimately save up their entire

871
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: vacation time and their money, and their vacation every year

872
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: is to the Iowa Bowl Game or then ask a

873
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: ball game, and it's because they want to get the

874
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: hell out of Nebraska in Iowa for a week, so

875
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: they wait for that bull trip. And if you don't,

876
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: that gets coaches fired in Iowa and Nebraska. Like Kirk

877
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: Ferrance is fine. Just make sure we're going back to Phoenix.

878
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: Phoenix.

879
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: Kirk, Okay, I'm not gonna get mad at you. Just

880
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: make sure I got my time in the sun where

881
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here with ten degree temperatures and freezing

882
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: my butt off. I can go down there for a

883
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: couple of a couple of days and like go to

884
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: a pool and go outside and wear shorts and you know,

885
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: show off my my really pale legs, like the walk, right,

886
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: that's what they need. They get fired if they don't

887
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: do that. So as long as you deliver the bowl

888
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: game for the for the Big ten and the Big

889
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: twelve guys who are freezing, they're cool. So I get

890
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: why the bowl games are big business, and I get

891
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: why everyone loves to have them, but they've just gone

892
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: too far. We're just playing too many and they're not

893
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: respected anymore. It's a guaranteed part of the football schedule

894
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: now and the college foot playoffs have kind of fallen

895
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: right into this, and it's it's after I really wonder

896
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: if some of these bowl games don't survive, Not that

897
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: I want them to, but I wonder if that's gonna

898
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 1: help the sport a little bit by trimming the fat

899
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: off of it and get us down to a more

900
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, actually go into a bowl game like it

901
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: to be to mean something again, where you're a good

902
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: team and you're rewarded, not just hey, you know this

903
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 1: year it's do you want to go? You got two wins,

904
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: come on down. Oh wait, Army, Army, you want to go. No, Army,

905
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: you can't go. Armed Forces Bowl. No, you can't play

906
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: in the Armed Forces Bowl because of our tie in.

907
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: It's like the hypocrisy and the lunacy of it all

908
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: got exposed this year.

909
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's a very interesting question going forward.

910
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: I think you'll see you call it said, trimming the fat.

911
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna happen because there are games that

912
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: you know, don't have any I mean, like when would

913
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: teams not go to a bowl game? And like it's

914
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: the norm, Like right now there's teams that are going

915
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: I'm good, Like I don't. We don't need to go.

916
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: It's an expense, we're gonna break even. We actually lose

917
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: money because we've got no fans and all that stuff.

918
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: Then it becomes about money. And every athletic department in

919
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 2: the country is all about the money right now because

920
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: they've been hurting for so long and there hasn't been

921
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: fans in a lot of these places. It's a ton

922
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: of revenue. So now, uh, we're gonna extend the season

923
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: and put people at risk. We're gonna We're gonna go

924
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: to a bowl game. It doesn't matter. I mean for

925
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: two and eight team, like, okay, that's you're like, oh

926
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: well you never would have gone anyway. Okay. But the

927
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: six and five team or the you know, five and

928
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: three team, I guess because they played eight games or whatever,

929
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: we're good.

930
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. The practice I get the practice time, I do.

931
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: I get that point. Hey, I get to practice time.

932
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: I got to work with my kids for next year.

933
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: It's all about next year. The bowl game is not

934
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: about this year. It's about next year and say good

935
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: bye to the seniors and blah blah blah. I get that,

936
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: but I think it's been form. It's been watered down

937
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: to the point where it's just really ridiculous. All right,

938
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: So Oklahoma, Florida and the Cotton Bowl, we're staring at

939
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: the over there Sincy and George. At the Peach Bowl,

940
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: we're looking at Cincinnati plus eight plus seven there, Alabama,

941
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. We're gonna lay the wood there with Alabama.

942
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: You know.

943
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: Nineteen twenty twenty one Clemson, Ohio State, same thing, looking

944
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: at Clemson seven seven and a half depending where the

945
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: number is going to fall for you. For the Sugar

946
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: Bowl Oregon and Iowa State, We've got no feel for

947
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: that game.

948
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: Whip a coin on that one, flipping.

949
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: Then A and M and Carolina playing in the Orange Bowl.

950
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: I like Carolina. Dave likes A and M. So we're

951
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: pretty much on the same side of every game except.

952
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: That I think we like over together. Yeah. Yeah, we

953
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: both like.

954
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: The over that game as well.

955
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

956
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: I think points gonna get scored in that game. And

957
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: I know if the number is coming down, so maybe

958
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: you can wait and get a better number. Yeah, like

959
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: the over seventy it open, it's down to sixty nine,

960
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: sixty eight and a half, depending on where you're going

961
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: for the Orange Bowl for A and M in North Carolina. Dave,

962
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: thank you for your time, my friend. Love breaking down

963
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: games really important. Oh my gosh, what are you bringing out?

964
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, what is that?

965
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: Is? Little holiday cheer? Little holiday special. I don't even

966
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 2: know if I can get the whole thing in. It's

967
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: a pretty big hat. I like hats all the time.

968
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: So, but if you're listening to this. On the podcast

969
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: version of this, Dave is wearing a four foot high

970
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: Leprechaun Christmas hat hot.

971
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. The kids had it somehow made

972
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 2: its way over to me and they should. Faddy, maybe

973
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: put this on when you do one of your shows

974
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: that I'm doing now. So yeah, Happy holidays to all

975
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: the listeners and viewers and everyone else Betting Pros. Thanks

976
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: for having me. And uh, it's good. It's pretty good.

977
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: It's good.

978
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: Looks tight. We're the outside. It looks would be awesome.

979
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: I went to check the mail on it. The kid,

980
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: the neighbors loved it.

981
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they did. He is Dave Sheriffin. I

982
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: am Att Parolt, The Daily Juice every single morning on

983
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Bettingpros dot com. This video on the YouTube channel for

984
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: Betting Pros. You'll get me for every Sunday morning for

985
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: NFL Football and the Daily Juice on the podcast where

986
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts every single morning for the Daily Juice.

987
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, thank you for watching. For Dave

988
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: Chaffin on that Parolt. Best of luck for your new year.

989
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: Six four days