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Speaker 2: shirt of the Southern Lawyer got a straight up cowboy

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Speaker 1: That's a great, gorgeous and that takes us right into

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Speaker 1: Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals because I saw

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Speaker 1: Trey Kirby tweeting that the Southern Lawyer was getting excited

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Speaker 1: about this game because we had ourselves a game. We

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Speaker 1: had ourselves a game. It was a crazy game we

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Speaker 1: all want to dissect here. In only the third overtime

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Speaker 1: game of the NBA Playoffs, the Celtics outlasted the Pacers

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Speaker 1: to take Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals one

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Speaker 1: thirty three to one twenty eight last night. Boston outscored

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Speaker 1: Indiana sixteen to eleven in overtime. They survive Jalen Brown

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Speaker 1: hit the corner three with about six seconds left in

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Speaker 1: regulation to give us the extra five minutes. But man,

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Speaker 1: did the Pacers just collapse and botch this and hand

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Speaker 1: hand Game one to Celtics. I see a lot of

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Speaker 1: people saying Celtics survive, Celtics steal Game one. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's more of a like, it's not stealing. If I

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Speaker 1: hand you my wallet right here you go and then

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Speaker 1: you run away, it's like, oh, he stole my wal Well,

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Speaker 1: did you hand it to him? Yeah, because they just

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Speaker 1: made so many mistakes.

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Speaker 4: And the Celtics made mistakes, so they didn't steal a thing. Really,

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Speaker 4: they made plenty of mistakes. But the Pacers are regretting

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Speaker 4: the way this ended. Get the tattoo, the no ragrets.

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Speaker 4: We have plenty of ragrets in this one, because I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure how the Celtics won with the way they

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Speaker 4: closed this game. Because the Pacers were great, fighting back

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Speaker 4: in both halves. Double digits down to start this game

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Speaker 4: and in the third quarter. Late in the third quarter

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Speaker 4: down thirteen, but they kept fighting back. In the fourth

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Speaker 4: quarter they found the solution. Just go at Al. They

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Speaker 4: went at Al Horford over and over and over again

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Speaker 4: five of six in iso situated situations against al Horford,

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Speaker 4: and the last one was Andrew Nephard with forty five

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Speaker 4: Tatum missed the three at the other end, and then

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Speaker 4: Haliburton dribbled the ball up the floor and just went

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Speaker 4: take advantage of this situation either, because Derrek White missed

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Speaker 4: missed that one. And then Andrew Nemphard tried to inbound

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Speaker 4: when Jalen Brown gets a three point opportunity. His only

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Speaker 4: Apparently Rick Carleile did tell him to go foul him

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Speaker 4: Pacers were up to here, things are looking pretty good

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Speaker 4: As I just talked about, this was an I had

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Speaker 4: it multiple times because I was just wondering, what did

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Speaker 4: I watch? Did I watch the Pacers giving away this game,

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Speaker 4: because it sounds has made lots of flupsy, plenty plenty

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Speaker 4: I imagine when this series is over.

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Speaker 1: What did you think about Rick Carlisle. I think Hali

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Speaker 1: Burton said it as well. Yeah, intent was to foul

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Speaker 1: they didn't switch properly and Siakam obviously closed out. But

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Speaker 1: then he's like, ah, I guess I don't want to

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, the shot is incredible when you see

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Speaker 2: like this the still image of it, and Siakam is

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Speaker 2: like hugging like shack, if you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Dick, but Jalen Brown right there and he still knocks

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Speaker 2: out of bounds as well. Incredible shot. That being said,

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Speaker 2: I thought Siakam had a chance to foul. Jalen Brown

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Speaker 4: The twitching on every switch.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just like, there are so many things they

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Speaker 2: And I thought Sam could have fouled Jalen Brown right

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Speaker 2: three free throws. What's the worst that happens? He makes

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Speaker 2: them all? You give up three points? Guess what happened

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Speaker 2: that being said, it's pretty risky. I understand they say

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Speaker 2: foul when the guy's facing away from the hoop, and

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Speaker 2: he was facing the hoop the whole time. Still should

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Speaker 2: have filled him. And then Mike Breens was a double bang?

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that double bank? Too early?

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Speaker 1: Too early in the What do you mean too early?

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Speaker 1: Expand on that too early in the series, too early

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Speaker 4: Game one.

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Speaker 2: I just think people know too much about the double

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Speaker 2: bang now, ye, And that's the thing to.

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Speaker 1: Me, Uh, it.

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Speaker 2: Makes you think about the other ones, but you can

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Speaker 2: only probably remember one double bank.

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Speaker 1: Really, I mean, this is his second double bang of

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Speaker 1: this exact lace, and we had it for the Dante DiVincenzo,

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Speaker 1: you know, madness in game two of the Knick Sixers series,

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Speaker 1: which was you know, felt like an eternity to go

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Speaker 2: All right, So he's done seven of them. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: throwing out the two of them that we've seen in

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Speaker 2: this playoffs? How many other can you name?

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Speaker 4: Well, there's Versus that's right, Yeah, there's a.

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Speaker 2: There's that's the only double bang in my book? What

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Speaker 2: are the one that's didn't he double bang on Luke

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Speaker 4: He did?

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty that's a good pretty, not iconic, but

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Speaker 1: a huge shot. And then there's some other crappy ones.

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Speaker 1: There's yes and Eric Gordon one that's perplexing.

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Speaker 2: There's a Julius Randall one from the side that like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the ones that are on MSG network I kind of

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Speaker 2: don't count. He should be double banging on the Nick.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know that's different on the national one. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: great shot by Jalen Brown. He got the double bang.

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Speaker 2: I think it was fair in the heat of the moment,

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Speaker 2: But then you go back, you like ray Allen didn't

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Speaker 2: get one in Game six twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 4: That's wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he just hadn't invented it at that point.

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Speaker 2: But it's a great point about stealing versus giving away.

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Speaker 2: One of the tragic moments of my childhood. I had

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Speaker 2: this beautiful windbreaker. It was like orange, purple and green.

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Speaker 2: I was playing outside, got a little hot and hung

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Speaker 2: we're just out experiencing stuff come back. Wind Breaker's gone,

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Speaker 2: it's gone. Was it stolen or did I give it away?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's tough, because like you see a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff put out by the curb. Yeah, now it's hanging

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Speaker 1: I said, well, are they giving it away? I'm always like,

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Speaker 1: are they or they just have it sitting there. It's

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Speaker 1: always tough.

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Speaker 4: It's a terrible sheving you like a.

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Speaker 1: Crappy, cheap like metal with rust. I mean I cleaned

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Speaker 1: it up, sureks better, but like I'm always like, if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have a sign on it. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: take this. I want to take this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm free a wind breaker hanging on a

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Speaker 2: mailbox in my own subdivision.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it stolen?

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Speaker 4: I got it stolen. Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: The Celtics then makes stole this one because that's what

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Speaker 2: it felt like.

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Speaker 1: But man, I was, I guess I was.

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Speaker 2: The Pacers back then very inexperience. You can't leave your

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Speaker 2: clothes just hanging on a mailbox. Somebody's gonna come and

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Speaker 2: get it. You can't turn the ball over twenty two

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Speaker 2: times in a playoff game and really really expect to win.

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Speaker 2: Like it came down to the final play in regulation,

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Speaker 2: the Pacers had it, But they had so many plays

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Speaker 2: throughout the fourth quarter, throughout the game where it looked like,

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Speaker 2: despite the fact that they were playing really well and

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Speaker 2: kept coming back, kept coming back in this game.

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Speaker 1: They just looked like they got tight.

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Speaker 2: In the closest moments in this game, Haliburton dribbling the

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Speaker 4: It didn't look like that to start this game, but

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Speaker 1: What did you think about the way this game was officiated?

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Speaker 1: Because besides the turnovers, Indiana did commit twenty three Celtics

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Speaker 2: like Haliburton tries to wrap him up, ye, basically at

432
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,400
Speaker 2: half court trying to take a take foul. It ends

433
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,960
Speaker 2: up being a foul on air Nie Smith blocking the

434
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,919
Speaker 2: dunk attempt by Tatum. I think that was Nie Smith's

435
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 2: sixth foul, and then Tatum got going.

436
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 4: Smith checked out. Yeah, Nie Smith did it aggravated Tatum.

437
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,359
Speaker 4: I guess he got he was under his skin. But

438
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,280
Speaker 4: you're right the six file after that, Tatum, Oh yeah,

439
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 4: I can score.

440
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Like men.

441
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 2: Hard was on him on the next possession and he

442
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,880
Speaker 2: tried to pull the chair but Tatum's too big, finished

443
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,240
Speaker 2: over the top of him. Then he hit that yeah three.

444
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 2: I think right after that as well, that was a

445
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 2: huge momentum place, especially because Halliburtn was clearly going to

446
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,360
Speaker 2: wrap him up. Yeah, he fouled him twice.

447
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,160
Speaker 1: That was a bad non call, I would say.

448
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

449
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 1: Tatum finished with thirty six points, twelve boards, forces, three steals,

450
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,280
Speaker 1: really good at the free throw line. When he was

451
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 1: there ten to twelve, but twelve of twenty six shooting

452
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,159
Speaker 1: two freight for deep. But he hit that one, that

453
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 1: massive one in overtime. I think that was the pump

454
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 1: ake party right where then he side stepped. Yes, it

455
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 1: was to knock that one down up top after he

456
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 1: had missed one, you know, in regulation there, which was

457
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 1: also a good look, but he was coming up short.

458
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:49,160
Speaker 4: Man.

459
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,919
Speaker 1: You imagine the conversation we'd be having if the Celtics

460
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: do lose that game at the end of regulation, maybe

461
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 1: maybe just take away one turnover from the Pacers and

462
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 1: they pull it out. There'd be a lot about Tatum

463
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 1: and about how they look good when they're running their stuff,

464
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 1: but then they get into like sort of one track

465
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: mind blinders on and they do do that oh yeah,

466
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 1: for stretches. It's like if they cut that out, they're

467
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: a dominant team, and they were in the regular season

468
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 1: for a majority of it. But yeah, you get into

469
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 1: these clutch games or these situations, you're like, guys, why

470
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: are you going away from running your action and moving

471
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 1: the ball? I just get a little lee so happy.

472
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and driving, because they're pretty good at driving against

473
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 4: the Ana Pacers. But then they stop, and you can

474
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 4: put together a little montage of the Tatum misses late

475
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 4: in this game, which were wide open three a wide

476
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 4: open shot from the free throw line, and a missed

477
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 4: layups as three different shots missing from all three areas

478
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 4: of the floor. Really if you want to do it

479
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 4: like that. But then the Celtics sturt on. They fight

480
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 4: for fifty to fifty balls that Jalen Brown throwing it

481
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 4: off Aeron E. Smith as he was falling out of bounds, awesome,

482
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 4: Drew Holiday taking a charge on Nie Smith, Awesome. Yeah,

483
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 4: it's a real jackal and hide with this Celtics season.

484
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 4: And then they stop, and then they stopped in the

485
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 4: just chuck shots and this was them and jerm Mozilla

486
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 4: knew it. He's he was literally telling them to drive

487
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 4: that frickin' ball. And then that's a huge change when

488
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 4: the Celtics do that. I just yeah, it just feels

489
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 4: like this was the one because they can't do it again.

490
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 4: They can't play that poorly again, I imagine. I mean,

491
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 4: not that they played poorly, like you said, four forty eight.

492
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 4: They won, They won the game, They won the battle

493
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 4: in four forty eight minutes. Okay, I guess they can

494
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 4: get worse than that, but man, man.

495
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: Obviously, the good thing with the Pacers is they shouldn't

496
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: have You would hope they wouldn't have another game where

497
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: they're turning the ball over twenty plus times, so like,

498
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: don't shoot yourself in the foot. But the counter to

499
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: that is, you know, are OB and TJ and that

500
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: bench gonna come through every game and ut play a

501
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: lot of the Celtics reserves, which they did in this game.

502
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 1: Are the Celtics going to miss out a majority of

503
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: their three pointers? Like they were generating some of their

504
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: looks that they usually bang in and they were missing.

505
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: I forget what they finished from deep? Was it like

506
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: thirty three percent or something like that?

507
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 4: Forty five?

508
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, So I mean that, you know, there's gonna

509
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 1: be a game or two where that's much higher. All

510
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: these things are just like more things we're going the

511
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: Pacers way. And then ultimately just down the stretch they

512
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: gave him a chance. We got we were like, the

513
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: chat was on fire last night, everybody going, what are

514
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 1: the Pacers doing? But then you're right, it was like, oh,

515
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: the Celtics aren't taking advantage of it. What are they doing?

516
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: It's like, does anybody want to win this game? Yeah,

517
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: exactly right.

518
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 2: It's like the play that was kind of emblematic of

519
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: it to me was there's an inbound I guess maybe

520
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 2: like forty five seconds left or something like that for

521
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: the Celtics. They inbound it to Tatum and Nie Smith

522
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: like gambles for no reason. A ridiculous play. Yeah, wide

523
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 2: open three pointer for Tatum Brick. Yeah, And I was like, Okay,

524
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: is somebody going.

525
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: To win this game?

526
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 2: Apparently Jaylen Brown was, or even I mean you could

527
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 2: even say it in overtime, like Tatum didn't have it

528
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 2: going at all, and then somehow he ends up scoring

529
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 2: ten in overtime, the most in a postseason since twenty

530
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 2: twenty one.

531
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: Tom Haberstrow said, Wow, yeah he was. He was. I

532
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: didn't think he had a clutch game at all.

533
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 4: I guess he did. Yeah, Yeah, that's good point. It

534
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 4: didn't hit his first basket until one twelve left of

535
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 4: this game. In ot that's a long time. And then

536
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 4: yeah that was in the Smith out. Yes, in the

537
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, he was ice cold, missed his last five

538
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 4: shots and then missed plenty going into that last few

539
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 4: minutes when Aaroni Smith was out, and then he decided

540
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: that he could turn it on.

541
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: How about Joe Missoula successfully challenging Al Horford's goaltend call

542
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: thirty five seconds and in the game we got this

543
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: so early. Wow. And then and then of course, you know,

544
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 1: we get one from him at the end basically of

545
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: the game. I think people are saying he has officially

546
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: set the record between the biggest gap between a coach's

547
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: challenge in a game. It's gonna be almost like it's

548
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: over fifty minutes of game time. We also have only

549
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: had one season with two challenges.

550
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 4: That's right, that's.

551
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: True, So it's gonna be tough to be It's gonna

552
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: be tough to be thirty five seconds in challenge. Yeah, yeah,

553
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: for sure.

554
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 4: And that was the earliest it's ever been done in

555
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 4: a playoff games. As Mike Breen said, I think it's

556
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 4: this is could be the earliest and it was confirmed.

557
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 4: Good stuff, Joe, he.

558
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: Felt pretty confident about it, that's for sure.

559
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 2: It wasn't the first play of this game a Jalen

560
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: Brown dunk on Nie method like they both landed.

561
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: Flat after that. What a wild first minute of basketball. Yeah,

562
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: Nie Smith's turned it over. I think, uh, and then

563
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: or maybe it was I believe it was him. Yeah,

564
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: and then Yeah, hustled back to try and challenge the

565
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown dunk and like landed on his as. Yeah. Yeah,

566
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: for sure. Uh. Also for doing random notes here, Uh,

567
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: we got a great shot of this Celtics fan that

568
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: looked like he was going to explode. They read this

569
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: guy's faceless He was excited, he was happy. I don't

570
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: think he was angry here at this particular moment. But

571
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: if you're a if you're a fan of the Real

572
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New Jersey, that's what all the guys

573
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: look like on that show. They are all beat red.

574
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 4: Because they're Yeah, they got a lot of tan problems.

575
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: But I think maybe just blood pressure issues stress from

576
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: being on a reality TV show.

577
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 4: That vein in his neck is huge, huge, this is large.

578
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: They're winning by eight here. Yeah, yeah, he was, he

579
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: was he was excited about Maybe Horford scored in the

580
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: post or something. Maybe that was the same we got

581
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: Tito flex and I can't remember exactly. Yeah. Yeah, any

582
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: other random notes or observations from this game or series.

583
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 4: I love the TJ McConnell, Peyton Pritchard matchup. I said

584
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 4: it going into this series. People in the comments saying,

585
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: come on, TJ McConnell's far better than Peyton Prichard. It's

586
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 4: not what I said. I didn't say Payton Pritchell's better

587
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 4: than TJ McConell because TJ McCall came in with that

588
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 4: beautiful reverse layup. He'll just never stop his dribble. Yeah,

589
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: incredible passing to get him open lane. Then the spin

590
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: move on Pritchell. That was sure, but then Pritchard back down.

591
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: TJ McCall goes behind the back, gives him a little

592
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: space and hits a shot. And he did stop TJ

593
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 4: McConell from doing the dribble underneath the hoop one time.

594
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: He stopped him. He cut him off one time. It

595
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 4: was a good matchup. Those two dudes are fun to

596
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 4: watch because they are identical almost. I guess it's like

597
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 4: you know every guy in those reality shows that you watch,

598
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 4: you know, they kind of look similar. They got the

599
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 4: same sort of vibe. But they're both really good in

600
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 4: this game. Obviously tjn was awesome.

601
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, Breen gave us like the fight card measurements

602
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: on those two guys. They both six to two hundred

603
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: and ninety pounds, right, Yeah, like they should have just

604
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: thrown up the Spider Man meme of bem pointing at

605
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: each other. But yeah, that was a fun little battle,

606
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: and you know, the Pacers are going to just need

607
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: those guys TJ and Obi Toppin especially. I thought Ben

608
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: Sheppard had a rough game. Yeah, he had a bad game.

609
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: He's been really good throughout most of the postseason, but

610
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: just a rough one from him.

611
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 4: He was the only one with the air quotes bad

612
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: shooting night out of everybody who's played on right.

613
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: We did see Jalen Smith, uh for maybe a.

614
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: Minute fifty seven seconds, probably what he's going to get

615
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 2: in the competitive portion of this series.

616
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: And you know, well we saw some Luke Cornett of

617
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: course as the backup center with no Porzingis. I didn't

618
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: think it was all that great either, And we had

619
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: talked about going in the series. Will was Missoula. Try

620
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: some small ball center, you know, be it Tatum, be

621
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: it maybe uh maybe Tillman. Even if you want to

622
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: switch more out there, you didn't.

623
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if you Tellman wasn't there because the

624
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 4: personal he lost his father and said that on Instagram

625
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: to announce that he wasn't there. That wasn't Missoula's decision

626
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 4: not to play him, so hopefully gets back for Game two.

627
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 4: Luke Cornett just looked a little slow in this.

628
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean it's like this team right now,

629
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: the Pacers are hitting a lot of shots at the

630
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: drop coverage of Horford we saw and Cornette that's what

631
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: he does. They're gonna feel comfortable. So yeah, maybe we'll

632
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: see Tillman. You know, I threw out of no shape

633
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: or set. I doubt that, but maybe Tatum. And there's

634
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: some Celtics fans I know Simmons was talking about. It's like,

635
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: this is why Missoula should have been experimenting more during

636
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: the regular season or hell even in the postseason. Just

637
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: try minutes of small ball Celtics lineups here to see

638
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: what you got, to see what you can unlock, and

639
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: maybe it'll come back to bite him in the ass.

640
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it won't. They pull it out, so they're still

641
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: up one. Oh. But Missoula is generally slow to sort

642
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: of adapt, and he he likes his big guys. He's

643
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: a big guy, likes having a big guy in there.

644
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: He must love the all defensive first team. He's like, Hilly, yeah,

645
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: sell big guys, what else do you have in your

646
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Speaker 1: notes for this one?

647
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Speaker 2: After Jalen Brown hit the shot from the corner, they

648
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: cut to Donnie Wahlberg.

649
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: So many times done? He got so much Yeah, a.

650
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: Lot of Donny time blue bloods, big fans there in Boston.

651
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: They don't have better celebrities. I mean, David Ortiz was

652
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 2: sitting Ye.

653
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: It was so fun.

654
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just liked it better when like

655
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: the Knicks would hit a crazy shot. You know, they

656
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: had a couple of crazy endings and they're cutting to

657
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: like John Stark's celebrating, not Donnie Wahlberg.

658
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Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, you got a lot of it man.

659
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

660
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. David Archies, I don't know if he really should

661
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: have got a camera time because he wasn't really celebrating.

662
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 4: He wasn't doing much, just had the big shades on.

663
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: I'm sure people didn't even know it was big Poppy

664
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Speaker 4: because he had to really look Is that him for sure?

665
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Once he saw him smiling though, grin Yeah.

666
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. There was that one play where the Celtics were

667
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: inbounding the ball and it was right in front of

668
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 4: David Ortiz, and dude Ortiz had to just cross his

669
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 4: hands on his chest and leaning back to get out

670
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: of the way. It was really funny. It was very subdued.

671
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 4: It wasn't cheering all that hard. But yeah, Donnie David

672
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Speaker 4: was there? Another celebrity?

673
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: I guess there was, but oh yeah, there was a

674
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Speaker 1: who's the football player that the Patriots was there?

675
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

676
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: First they had to tell me that.

677
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, oh, I thought you say football player.

678
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: I thought I saw Drew Bledsoe. I stopped. I stopped

679
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: the screen. I'm like, that's Drew Bledsoe. It was. It

680
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: was not.

681
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: Mike Breen during an F one ad read asked the

682
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: uh the the crew, what's the fastest you've ever driven

683
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: a car? So I'm not being a cop here, but

684
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: let me throw it at you tasks. What's the fastest

685
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 1: you've ever driven a car?

686
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: Do you even know? As fast as my car will go?

687
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 4: What do you think far as the governor will let

688
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: it go? What? What do I think it is?

689
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: Well, you've got a couple of speeding tickets driving to

690
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: the cottage back in the day. I was in the

691
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Speaker 1: car the one time.

692
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 4: What did you get there. Yeah, that was not that's

693
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 4: not a country road too, it was it wasn't as

694
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Speaker 4: fast as I've been, that's for sure. Saying I couldn't

695
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Speaker 4: get I couldn't get over one hundred miles one hundred

696
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: and sixty k on that. So I've done that before,

697
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 4: that's for sure.

698
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's for sure, TJD. You've been in a professional

699
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, race car, have you know?

700
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: Yes?

701
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: Professional at ish? I don't actually know. I never looked

702
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: at this speedometer when I was racing around, but I

703
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: did get my mini up to like one hundred and

704
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: five miles per okay, top down, that was just a

705
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: bad idea, like top town. We're like over my eyes basically, Yeah, Jesus,

706
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: I just wanted to see how fast I did.

707
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Speaker 1: I did get a good laugh last night because I

708
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: tweeted the exact same thing. If you weren't watching the game,

709
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: you thought I was a nark or something, just trying

710
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: to find out if you've better or not. I couldn't

711
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: believe how many people knew the fastest they've ever driven

712
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: a car, like to the exact you know, kilometer or

713
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: a mile prour, Trey, Are you one of.

714
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 2: Those people I buried the needle on my Chevy Burretta

715
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: on Miller Road back in the new I don't know

716
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: what it was. One ten was the needle?

717
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah? Great times. Love driving fast?

718
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: I literally did that after seeing the first fast and

719
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: the flying many other times, but no I wrote how

720
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Speaker 2: fast can you go?

721
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: Oh?

722
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Fast can you go? How fast can you go? I

723
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: couldn't stop thinking during the broadcast too, about Andrew Marchan's

724
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: of The Athletic, his column from yesterday as I listened

725
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: and watched Breen, JJ Redick and Doris Burke call last

726
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: night's game. Because it was titled Martin's article here after

727
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: puzzling decision to let go of Jeff Van Gundy, ESPN's

728
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: NBA broadcasts are worse off. I put a link in

729
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: the show notes here on YouTube if you want to

730
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: click over and read it. I thought it was an

731
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: interesting READO. I'm not sure I agreed with it entirely,

732
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: but his premises here, and I'll quote march In, Breen

733
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: might be able to carry the trio late in close games,

734
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: but he is not raising his partner's levels. Evaluating what

735
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: he has. He comes across as more of a shoot

736
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: first point guard, not only providing the play by play

737
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: but often the analysis too, And then he talks about

738
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Speaker 1: how this crew they lack chemistry because duh, they haven't

739
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: had many reps, and he says that they lack humor

740
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: and flow and that Reddick's game analysis is more coach

741
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: like than conversational. Anyway, what do you think? Do you

742
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: agree with Andrew march In here? Is it worse than

743
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: it was with Jeffyan Gunny and Mark Jackson? Do you

744
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: got to give it time? Does the trio just not

745
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: work because of their personalities? What's your take?

746
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: I think all of that is probably true. I missed

747
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: the jokes as well. I don't miss the complaining. Yeah,

748
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: that's it's a it takes some you'll leave some. Give

749
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: a penny, take a penny. But what it comes down

750
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: to me is a the no chemistry. Maybe the flow

751
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: gets better if time goes on. Though, We'll see what

752
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: happens with JJ the coach, and they were just thrown

753
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: together in the middle of the season. This wasn't even

754
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: the team coming into the season because Doc left, which

755
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: is pretty funny because Espenn basically said, we're worried Jeff

756
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: Van Gundy is going to leave to go coach. Okay,

757
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: he'd been there for fifteen years six But I also

758
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: think Doris and JJ have very similar styles. They're very

759
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: measured and their thoughts, they're thoughtful about it. And Mark

760
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: Jan's definitely right that it's more coach like than conversational.

761
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't know will that ever change, maybe if they

762
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: are able to stay together longer times and they know

763
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: where they're each hopping in and out like that. But

764
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: then you look at the TNT side, Kevin Harlan, Reggie Miller,

765
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: Jamal Crawford facing found chemistry pretty quickly.

766
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: Right right. Yeah. I had read this in the afternoon

767
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: before game one. Yeah, I thought, okay, you know what,

768
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: there's some truth in it. And then I listened and

769
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: I made notes on everything they talked about. And I

770
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: essentially they are getting better as the playoffs go on.

771
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: I think that's for sure. And yes, maybe they're lacking

772
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: chemistry the ban Gundi and Mark Jackson had, but they're

773
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: getting better as they go on. They're working on it.

774
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: I think in this one, Doris said Tatum and Jaleen

775
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 4: have finish ability, and Mike Breen said he was impressed

776
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: finish ability. He never heard that word, and they talked

777
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: about Chris Paul being part of the TV crew at halftime.

778
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 4: Dora said, because he's not on the court and giving

779
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: referees a hard time, things will be all right. This

780
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: is they're making jokes. Was explaining Tatum's driver. Reddick said,

781
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 4: are you trying to drive a foul on me, Doris?

782
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: Because I guess she was animated and maybe threw an

783
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: arm out at her seat. They're making good jokes. I

784
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: think even Pritchers met back was hurting, came up with

785
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: an offensive board. Breen said his back must be killing

786
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: him because he's playing through it. I think their chemistry

787
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 4: is coming on, and there was a ton of analysis

788
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 4: that was damn good.

789
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: And that's not their problem for the most part. It's

790
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: more they're they're a little buttoned up and they're maybe

791
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: too similar. That's I think the sort of what Andrew

792
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: Martin was getting at where it's so different with Breen

793
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: compared to Van Gundy, the curmudgeon Mark Jackson with the

794
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: catchphrases and yeah, we rolled our eyes at a lot

795
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: of them. They got tiring, definitely when they were complaining

796
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: about officials, like I don't miss that, but you do

797
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: miss the levity and like them sort of making fun

798
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: of each other a little more and like just like that,

799
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: and maybe you do it, maybe don't, because this is

800
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: the thing, Like, you know, you want something different from

801
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: a broadcast than maybe I want, Like everyone's going to

802
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: have a different sort of feel for it. Maybe you

803
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: just want I just want analysis, no jokes. I just

804
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: I just want pure jokes because I don't you know,

805
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't need my handheld it

806
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: through it all. You know, everybody's got a different PA.

807
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 4: That's hard for basketball fans who've watched every freaking game

808
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: for a long time.

809
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: You want some personality.

810
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: Because you have a lot of good analysis yourself, or

811
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: you've probably don't need that as much.

812
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean the jokes are coming.

813
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 4: I think they're coming.

814
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure they're funny people.

815
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: I get it. I get it.

816
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: Who's gonna say Jeffarino hot dog buddy? You know, I

817
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: tell a story about being called Jeffarino hot dog buddy?

818
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: Right right? Yeah, Gundy is loose because he's been doing it.

819
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: He had been doing for seventeen years, literally seventeen years.

820
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: He'd called the finals for seventeen years so he can

821
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: talk about being called a hot dog. Sure, like those

822
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: are the jokes were from. But I thought the analysis

823
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 4: was damn good when they got into it. Yes, yeah,

824
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: like he kept Reddy kept talking about the Pacers playing

825
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 4: point five basketball because you got to make a decision

826
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: within twenty five seconds of getting the ball or the

827
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: corner crashing as Doris Burke was talking about. Corner crashing

828
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: allows people to get back within uh and play transition defense.

829
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: I mean, that was that was a good point. Fan

830
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: Gundy and Mark Jackson have never said that, So I

831
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: just think that they're they're they're good. And Reddick said

832
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: about Turner named the seven foot that can pick and

833
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: roll for a dunk one play and take a step

834
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: side three the next. That sounds like a Jeff fang

835
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: Gundy quote right there. Man, that was so I don't know. Yeah,

836
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: the jokes are lacking, I guess, but I think they're

837
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: they're coming.

838
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: Well, they won't be for long because he'll probably be

839
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: coaching a team, saybe so, then find the third person

840
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: to pair with Mike Breen and Doris Burke. It's Richard Jefferson.

841
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: Maybe he's got he's got more personality because he's quirkier

842
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: and and he's to take a shot at the guy. Yeah,

843
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: there's that too. Yeah, Yeah, for sure.

844
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: If you say somebody is a big load down low,

845
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: he will not agree with that. He's a very talented player.

846
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: Also, something that ghost fay Zilla wrote this morning in

847
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: his newsletter that I have been thinking about throughout the

848
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: playoffs as well is, and I'm going to quotes Ziller here,

849
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: something has felt a little off about the games on

850
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: ESPN and ABC, Like are the crowds not juiced or

851
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: is the mix just off? Crowd noise is an important

852
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: factor in whether a broadcast feels frenetic and exciting, and

853
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: I think that goes hand in hand to what we're

854
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: talking about here with Breen Reddick Endorse a little bit.

855
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: What is going on? Because Breen just kept telling us

856
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: how loud it was in that building. It was crickets

857
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: for a majority of that game. It was maybe hot

858
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: at the start when they ripped off the twelvel run.

859
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: It it got obviously loud at times. This is a

860
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: good Boston crowd, we know that for the most part.

861
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: So what is going on? There's something odd? Yeah, it

862
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: didn't sound loud at all.

863
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: Absolutely. We've commented on this earlier in the playoffs in Boston, specifically,

864
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 4: something is wrong with the feed. We're hearing fans both Yeah,

865
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: I think it's the the TNT broadcast. Is there's something

866
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 4: going on ESPN. Yes, yes, En I made.

867
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird, but it does. It's funny that again,

868
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: it goes hand in hand with all this. It's like

869
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 1: it does it away from the game from a viewing

870
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: experience when it's so quiet and flat, and now you're

871
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: putting even more pressure on the Trio to like build

872
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: that energy. I think, yeah, but do you have any

873
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: other Yeah, I agree.

874
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: I thought it was oddly quiet, But then you're hearing

875
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: Breen say it like you know, they're going to the

876
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: free throw line and people have to be going crazy

877
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: in the in the arena right like the ten seconds

878
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: left inbounds. Surely the Boston crowd is defense, defense, defense,

879
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: going insane. Yeah, it just didn't feel like it, So

880
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: something's up with the mix.

881
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: Breen said twice in this game, Oh, we couldn't even

882
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: hear the whistle. Yeah, he said it twice.

883
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: I was on the knee, Smith Foul heard the whistle

884
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: perfectly clear.

885
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: It so Yeah, something's off there, and hopefully they can

886
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: figure that out moving into the to the finals.

887
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 4: Here at least I was trying to change my audio.

888
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: I was trying to get a better audio bound. Ye,

889
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 4: it wasn't it wasn't happening. Yeah, you mentioned the crickets there.

890
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: We got some great Cicada talk coming a little bit.

891
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 4: It's a good plug. That's a good plug. Man. Are

892
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 4: you guys?

893
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: Do you have a say on surround sound? Because they

894
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: mix these things five won right, seving one sometimes so,

895
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, I'm just.

896
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: Big our buddy Ken's coming down from Toronto or Avy

897
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: equipment to look at our systems.

898
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 4: You're as soon as I turned my stereo up, there

899
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: was more.

900
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you go stereo rather than no no, no,

901
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: no no. They shouldn't be mixing these things and surround.

902
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: Who the hell listens watches a basketball game and surround

903
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: sound like it's ridiculous.

904
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 4: Oh well, I'm sure.

905
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 3: They do too, but they're like why is it so quiet?

906
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: Or you know the speakers, I mean, who like it

907
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: should be it should be hot. The by hot, I

908
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: mean all the MIC's just put all the faders up,

909
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: like you know, it could also be that they're like, hey,

910
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 3: we're going to into a playoff game, it's gonna be crazy.

911
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: It's like the crowd is too much, like let's bring back,

912
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: let's bring down the mix a little bit. You know,

913
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: who knows what decisions are being.

914
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: But it is so strange with the Boston games because

915
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 4: we thought they're kind of being quiet because it's round

916
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: one earlier on in this postseason, and then we heard

917
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: this game where Brin couldn't even hear the whistle, so

918
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 4: it must have been loud, right.

919
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: He's either straight up lying to us, or it's really off.

920
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: It is odd that you can hear the whistle at home,

921
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 3: but Breen can hear it, and he's wearing headphones, presumably

922
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: listening to programs. So I like, I don't know, I

923
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: don't know.

924
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: I will say I do love and I've said this before.

925
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: I love the gold accents they use on their ESPN

926
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: graphic packages here as we get into the conference finals.

927
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: In the final, I love it. It just makes it

928
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: seem like a more important game. It's like tiny things

929
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: like that, Yes, keep with that. Do you guys have

930
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: anything else? On Andrew Martin's column on the broadcast on

931
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: the game. Wolf center Rudy Gobert has been unanimously selected

932
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: to the NBA All Defensive First Team. Gobert received first

933
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: team votes on all ninety nine ballots, earning first team

934
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: honors for the seventh time. Joining Gobert is fellow Frenchman

935
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: Victor Webbn Yama. We have heat center Bam out of Bio,

936
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: Pelicans forward Herb Jones, and you see their Lakers big

937
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: man Anthony Davis. The All d second team. It's all

938
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: guards basically. Even Alex Caruso was pointing this out on Twitter.

939
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: It's Alice Caruso, Jalen suck Is, Derek White, Andrew Holliday.

940
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: And you've got Wolf's forward. He's more of a forward,

941
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Jading McDaniels, who will see tonight in action in Game

942
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: one of the Western Conference Finals. Gys Trey Kirby. I

943
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: guess my first question is do you like this positionless

944
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: selection for all defensive teams? Are you a fan of it?

945
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: Or I wish they actually sort of had more of

946
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: a guards and forwards and centers structure.

947
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: I think it makes more sense if it's guards and centers,

948
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: a guards in front court guys, especially because then you

949
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: see like Victor One Vanyama first rookie to make All

950
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: Defensive first team. I'm like, yeah, but Tim Duncan was

951
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: behind Scottie Pippen and Karl Malone when he was a rookie.

952
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: He made the second team. But if they had no positions,

953
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: does Tim Duncan make first team? It's quite possible. You're

954
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 2: telling me the history matters. History matters. We can't change

955
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: eighty two games because of all this stuff. But you

956
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: change this, This changes the history to me. And it

957
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: just feels like this is how it will continue to go.

958
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: I mean it's only the first year. Yeah, who knows

959
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: if things will change, But in general, the big guys

960
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: are more important defensively and they get higher rated defensively.

961
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: All the best defenses usually have a good rim protector.

962
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: So it feels like we'll get three to four centers

963
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: on every first team and then we'll sprinkle in a wing,

964
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: in a guard here and there.

965
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you say, are you a fan of this?

966
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 4: Well? I like being able to separate it by guards

967
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: and wings or guards and bigs, however you want to

968
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 4: call it littles and biggs, smalls and biggs, you know,

969
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: to that effect, because it is whether it's a small

970
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 4: ford power forward er center, you know, lump them together

971
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 4: and the guards. I think that would be ideal because

972
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: it is a little strange. The victoriem Minyama is the

973
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 4: first rook to be on the All first defensive team.

974
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 4: You think about it that way because there are other

975
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 4: like you mentioned Tim Duncan. I was shocked by that.

976
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 4: I thought Tim Duncan did it, but no, he only

977
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 4: made the second team if you want to separate it

978
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: that way. So I think there is a way of

979
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: separating it, just like that Smalls and Biggs, because you

980
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: do have great Smalls out there. But Jade McDaniels I

981
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 4: think is big in this situation, he would be in

982
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: the big category. Lump them that way, I would anyway.

983
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: Well, I know who loves this way, this new way,

984
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: bam Adebayoy. He's on the first team. Yeah, this guy

985
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: finally cracked a first team with the way you can

986
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: now vote. He was a second team guy for I

987
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: think the last I don't know if it was consecutively,

988
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: but I think four times he was second team because

989
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: of all these great centers defensive centers that he would

990
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: sort of get bumped down to the second team, but

991
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: he's there on the first team. You have the voting,

992
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: I believe JD the sort of breakdown for the first

993
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: and second team, and then you have a bunch of

994
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: other guys getting votes. And I want to bring it

995
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: up because Demontes Sibonis for all defensive teams? Who is

996
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: doing this? Who is voting Simonis for all these things?

997
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: I almost have to admire it. Now they've leaned into

998
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: the bit if it's one person.

999
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: But yes, do you think they revealed themselves by also

1000
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: giving Daron Fox a first team All Defense vote?

1001
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: It's possible. Yeah, yeah, it's very possible. You're looking at Sacramento,

1002
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: are you, Yeah.

1003
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm looking at them because I don't think that they

1004
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: were a good defensive team this year. Not good enough

1005
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: to have two players on the first team.

1006
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no on the first team. And then

1007
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: you get a guy like og Anobi not getting a vote.

1008
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: That guy is a phenomenal defensive player. I know he

1009
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 4: was hurting. I know he was part of a poopier

1010
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 4: defense with the Toronto Raptors for a good chunk of

1011
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 4: the season, But as soon as he became a New

1012
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 4: York Knick, they became an incredible defensive team and became

1013
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: an incredible team. Ojan Andobi deserves to be on there.

1014
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 4: It is nice to see Herbert Jones. Herb Jones made

1015
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 4: the first team ye, a guy who had never made

1016
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: one and is the guy that you probably talk about

1017
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 4: the least out of the first team five. You know, Rudy,

1018
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 4: Anthony Davis, bam Adebayo, Webin Yama and him, he doesn't

1019
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: get the name recognition, but he's just damn good. And yeah,

1020
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: that's five bigs. I would put Herbert in the big category,

1021
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: would would you not?

1022
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going sort of yeah, bigs and smalls, what.

1023
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: Else is small? Smalls, wings and bigs? Well, how would

1024
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: you separate it small? You could do smalls, wings and biggs.

1025
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 4: I would do small, just two categories myself, So you

1026
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: take up the center of that myself, like you said,

1027
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 4: like Trey said, Smalls and biggs like the All Star Game. Yeah,

1028
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: like the All Star Game. I mean it's it would

1029
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: be nice to as they change this, as they get

1030
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: rid of the center, to have one uniform way of

1031
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 4: doing it.

1032
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: I guess, I mean, I guess you know one positive

1033
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: for this, if you want to look at it. I'd

1034
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: have to go back and look at all the defensive

1035
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: teams and guys that made second teams because of their

1036
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: position that maybe only got on there because of it.

1037
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: Like my point is, we are, in theory getting the

1038
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: ten best defenders according to the voters, right, because it's

1039
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: like get positions out of there. So in years past,

1040
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: there have probably been guys that got on there, maybe guards,

1041
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: let's say, where there were much more deserving wings, big centers.

1042
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: But you know there's only a couple spots for them.

1043
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: So I guess that's a positive if you think that is,

1044
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: but there it is. Congrats to Wemby, first rookie ever

1045
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: selected to the All Defensive First Team. They've been doing

1046
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: this for a long time. Yeah, sixty eight, sixty nine.

1047
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised that I liked it. That

1048
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: that caught me was exactly.

1049
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: Like, whoa, It seemed like something that come around in

1050
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: the eighties. I just introduced a lot of awards in

1051
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: the eighties.

1052
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: That's right, all right, So congrats to all ten of

1053
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: those guys making All Defensive honors. Okay, before we go,

1054
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: it was teased earlier, but we have a tweeted.

1055
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: The night tweet over night. Wow, we are going off

1056
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 4: the basketball floor. Because I just found this tweet so unique,

1057
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 4: I had to go with it. This from Pyramid Chad.

1058
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: He tweeted, it's an Illinois based tweet because people are

1059
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 4: doing malort shots with cicadas in them. Man, I need

1060
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 4: to get them out of Illinois. So malort is a

1061
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: liquor that I happened to drink when we were at

1062
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: the All Star Game in Chicago in twenty twenty. I

1063
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: lost our monthly bet where you know, we have our

1064
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: pick them payoff, and I had to do a shot

1065
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 4: of milort, which was nasty. But now now they're introducing

1066
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 4: cicada infused milort.

1067
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: This is real.

1068
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: This is real, noon whissel, noon whistle brewing. Excuse me

1069
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: introducing cicada infuse malort. And I got to read some

1070
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 4: of their paragraphs to see if you guys are excited.

1071
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 4: Here we go lobster like flavor sensation. Believe it or not,

1072
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: the seventeen year old Virgin cicadas bring a flavor reminiscent

1073
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 4: of succulent lobster to this insanely delicious concoction. It's a

1074
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: taste to you won't find anywhere else and it's only

1075
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 4: available once every seventeen years. That's cicada history for you.

1076
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on. There was a lot in that sentence

1077
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: because you immediately go to hold on, These tastes like lobster,

1078
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: Like they're succulent like lobster. But then, let's not a

1079
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: gloss over the seventeen year old virgin cicadas. These are

1080
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: these special These are the special ones. These are the

1081
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: ones you got to put in the Lord, I guess. So.

1082
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big deal.

1083
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: They're back for the first time in seventeen years, and

1084
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: it's crossing over with the twelve year cicadas as well

1085
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: for the first time in forever. And Chicago is like

1086
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: the epicenter of the cicada world right now. Okay, that's

1087
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: why they're doing this, Okay. I don't know why they're

1088
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: called virgin. Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me. Maybe

1089
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: because they're just coming out of the mood. Hey yeah, debutants, right,

1090
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: we got them down here all the time. Yeah, Cada

1091
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: Central down here in the South just collect them in

1092
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: jars for no reason.

1093
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: I've got one in my coffee cup right now. It

1094
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: says like a succulent lobster.

1095
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 4: I don't believe that.

1096
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,479
Speaker 1: For a second. Oh, I don't either.

1097
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would get more into their their blurbs here,

1098
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: but I don't know if we really care. Okay, one

1099
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: more safe, nutritious, and totally unique. You might be surprised

1100
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 4: to learn that eating cicadas is not only safe but

1101
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 4: also nutritious, packed with protein and low in fat. Cicadas

1102
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 4: are sustainable and eco friendly food source. Plus with our

1103
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: expert prep, you can indulge in this delicacy with confidence.

1104
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: Now I say that paragraph because I wonder and I

1105
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 4: need to know. Would you rather eat the cicada or

1106
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 4: drink them alert if they were separate in any situation

1107
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 4: because the Lord is known to be nasty to try it. Yeah,

1108
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: but eating a cicada might not appeal to some, But

1109
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 4: I literally I would pick the cicada. I don't know

1110
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 4: if your children eat their cicadas that they have, if

1111
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 4: they just hang onto the corpses. But it's so good

1112
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 4: in protein, and some people like you mentioned the crickets earlier,

1113
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 4: they put these into somehow a protein bar or something,

1114
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: and you're just getting so much protein. It's so sustainable.

1115
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 4: It tastes better in all honesty than the milort, no doubt.

1116
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: He maybe does. But if I'm on survivor, I guess

1117
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: give me the bugs. But otherwise no, if I'm just here,

1118
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: I think i'll I'd rather just get drunk off that,

1119
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, rocket fuel lower. Yeah, I'm alert.

1120
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 4: You say it's grapefruit flavored. I don't know.

1121
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: I mean gripfruit is can be rough, I do believe,

1122
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: not as bad as mylort. But shout out to my

1123
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: man John the Baptist. He was known to be eating

1124
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: locusts and honey way back in.

1125
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: Big difficult times.

1126
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: So this has been around for a while, and we

1127
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: got all these cicadas hanging around. Apparently they're high in proteine.

1128
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: Grind them up, baby, right, Yeah, sure, get your whatever

1129
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: it's called exoskeletons throwing a blender. You got yourself some

1130
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: protein powder free of charge.

1131
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what the EXO. The bars are

1132
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 4: called as well. They have EXO in them, I think

1133
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: maybe yeah, exo anyways, because they put the skeletons and

1134
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 4: they put the ground crickets in them. I don't think

1135
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 4: they've gone to cicadas yet.

1136
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: Reason I'd rather much. I'd much rather eat a cricket

1137
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: than one of these cicada. It's that I don't know

1138
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: we have they have these bugs down here. Man, they're

1139
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: not fun to see. I'm not like, yay, they're here,

1140
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: like yeah, so i'd probably go get over this, but

1141
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: I would. I mean, look, I would try this. They're

1142
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna say a lot of these right. It already sucks.

1143
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: It's already almost like a gag drink to begin with,

1144
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: and now you put a bug in it, like come on, man, yeah,

1145
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: we'll get a baby, do it.

1146
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: You're when I asked the question, would you rather eat

1147
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 4: a cicada or drink this thing? It's because it's nasty, yeah,

1148
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 4: and so so I'm entering the entering the equation with

1149
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: a bug, which are allowed. It might make it better.

1150
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: It makes it better.

1151
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: They're saying it tastes like lobster with a cicada in it.

1152
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: It can only improve because I had a shoto.

1153
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 4: It's bad.

1154
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: It tastes like like pencil shavings and like death. You know,

1155
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: so yeah, give me, give me them alert. I'm not

1156
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: eating a cicada.

1157
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: You got you got a you got a alert plug

1158
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: for us, tea cake. We gotta bottle of this bug

1159
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: juice down here.

1160
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: Trying to figure when I got visitors coming in from it.

1161
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: Be nice. It's possible, nice, possible, do it on the show.

1162
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 4: Stuff here. I don't even understand this next blurb. Add

1163
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 4: your own cicada husks for extra flavor, what what like?

1164
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 4: You can add wherever the cicada.

1165
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: This is not husky enough for me.

1166
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 4: Two more please, It's the ultimate person It's the ultimate

1167
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: personalized alcoholic cicada broth experience.

1168
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't get it.

1169
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 4: The thing is they're really run in with this, yeah

1170
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: about it. Yeah. The thing is they're so loud. Skaters

1171
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: are so much more louder than than crickets. They are loud.

1172
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: They buzz down here in Atlanta.

1173
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: You can hear them on in ESPN broadcast.

1174
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: They got to fill the seats with cicatas. That's that's

1175
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 4: how we'll be able to hear the fans.

1176
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: All right, great tweet, great tweet. Well we'll get the

1177
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: pull up. Maybe would you try to try this mellort

1178
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: with the bug in it? Let us know, let's call

1179
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: it there. We got game one of the Western Conference

1180
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: Finals tonight. It's uh Wolves versus Mavericks. Everyone's excited about

1181
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: this one. Hopefully we get this as entertaining a game

1182
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: as we got in the Eastern Conference Finals to talk

1183
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: about on tomorrow's No Dunk Podcast Live at ten. But

1184
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: we also have three hours of Survivor tonight, of the

1185
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: Survivor really tonight. It's uh, this is one of the

1186
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: toughest nights of I'm being honest in our schedule because

1187
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: we've got a big Western Conference Finals game that you

1188
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: really got to dig into, and then just so much Survivor.

1189
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not short three hours, three hours

1190
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: two well, it's like two and a half hours of

1191
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 1: the episode thirty minute.

1192
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little postgame it spills into the reunions, so

1193
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 3: it's usually two and a half hours.

1194
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you uh, well, you're just gonna watch Survivor.

1195
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have to watch the game?

1196
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 4: Do you dip into the game?

1197
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm really going back and forth. I'm gonna tackle this

1198
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: one tonight, Like, yeah, you know, you could save one

1199
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: till the morning, just get up at the crack of dawn.

1200
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: It's a possibility. But then which one? Yeah, can you

1201
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: do both tonight? You could? You know, I have a DVR,

1202
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: we can get some recording and catch up on things

1203
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: fly through commercials. I don't know, TK. What are you

1204
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: gonna do, man, I'm gonna watch Survivor, okay, and then

1205
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch my kids last day at school.

1206
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: They don't got to go to school in the morning.

1207
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: They love Survivor. Last year we set up a bunch

1208
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: of challenges in the backyard. I dressed like Jeff Probes.

1209
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll make him eat cicadas this time.

1210
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you gotta.

1211
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: Eat this gross food, or I will feed you actual

1212
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: cho Jesus that.

1213
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 3: On their own cicadas.

1214
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: That's dark.

1215
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 4: That is dark. I like it. That's all right.

1216
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 2: We can always replace them.

1217
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: All right, guys, enjoy Survivor. If you're a fan of that,

1218
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: enjoy game one of the Western comfort tinles. We'll be

1219
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: back here tomorrow morning at tending them Easter. Until then,

1220
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: climber bros. You heard it here first, have a great time,

1221
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: turn up. Love you guys awesome.

1222
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember I heard this song

1223
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 4: this morning. I couldn't get it out of my mind,

1224
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 4: so I have to share with you. Life is one

1225
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 4: big party while you're still young. I didn't even say that, right,

1226
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 4: Life is one big party whin you're still young. It's

1227
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 4: a shaggy line, you know what.

1228
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: You know, who's going to have your back when it's

1229
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: all done?

1230
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know yeah? What about the long run?

1231
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: When did you do it like that? Breaks the new one.