1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Second hour of play and Buck kicks off. Right now, 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the incoming administration. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Here's some updates on this one. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: First of all, our friend Pete Hegseath has in terms 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure he would understand very much and appreciate thought 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: through the ambush, he has gotten off the X and 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: it looks like he is on his way to a 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: confirmation as the next United States Secretary of Defense. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Remarkable. 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: I still remember first time Pete and I were on 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: Real News at the Blaze, a show that doesn't exist 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: anymore but was great at the time. I want to 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: say twenty twelve, so that was now coming on thirteen 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: years ago, and here he is now up for and 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I think going to become the next Secretary of Defense. 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: But it's very interesting to see, particularly Clay the warfighter 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: support for Pete in this role. 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: We have gotten very used to before. 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: I talk about the merits of a war fighter leading 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: a war fighting agency or war fighting department, which you know, 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: it used to be the War Department, as we all remember, 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: and then they change it to the Defense Department. 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: But the point is to be able to make war 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: and win. 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: Wars if war is necessary, right, that is actually what 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: the role that is the fundamental role. Yes, it is 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: to defend us and our rights and everything else, but 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: it is also to be able to engage with and 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: defeat the enemy, not to be a massive social engineering 30 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: experiment where we get to address historical you know, injustices 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: to the trans community or whatever. And there's been a 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: lot of that in the military in recent years. There's 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: been a ton of it, I can say from my 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: friends inside the CIA. Still, you know, there's like trans 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Appreciation Day every couple of months or something. It's there's 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on with that DEI. But 37 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: let's just first focus in on this clay. There's there's 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: a history now going back, let's say, and this really 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: coincides with you know, most of our our time post 40 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: college right of people getting these jobs as secretary of defense. 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: And I understand, no one person is in charge of everything, 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: but one person is supposed to be responsible at the 43 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: very top. 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: Actually so he can't. 45 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Do everything, but the responsibility for how wars are going, 46 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: how military interventions are conducted, is supposed to well end 47 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: with the commander in chief, but right below that the 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense. We've had a history of really bad 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: for a country that has no real military peer. We've 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: had a history of some terrible strategic decision making. Right, 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: our guys are the best tactical war fighters and gals 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: are the best tactical war fighters in the world, no 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: question about it. But yet we haven't gotten the outcomes 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: we want when you look at the Secretary of Defense 55 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: on down and the strategies that have been deployed stretching 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: back now for let's say twenty four years, here's Senator 57 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: Rick Scott who is just pointing out that having somebody 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: who has actually led troops in battle seems like a 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: pretty good idea. In fact, why is that so strange 60 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: to a lot of people that have opposed Pete play 61 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: This is cut eleven. 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: You look at Pete Hedgsep. Here's a guy that's a 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: combat veteran. He knows the risk of sending troops into battle. 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: He's led troops in battle. He knows people that have lost, 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: he knew people that lost their lives, he knows people 66 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: have been injured. That's the type of person we want 67 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: to run the Department of Fence. 68 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: Clay, There's a lot of people talk about the military 69 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: industrial complex, but I can say from the people I know, 70 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: particularly in the special operations community, who have been over 71 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: relied upon in a lot of ways over the last 72 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: couple of decades to do so much of the fighting 73 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: and so much of these sort of counter terrorism mission 74 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: and the insurgency fighting mission and all this stuff. And 75 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: there's a sense that the people that make these decisions 76 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: are it's kind of these like chubby figered fingered think 77 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: tank types, you know what I mean, people that are 78 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: just you know, real armchair generals, and that I think 79 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: there's a resentment to it in p addresses that Pete 80 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: is a new form of top of the scale, you know, 81 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: top of the apparatus. 82 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: I would suggest to you, Buck that Pete hag Seth 83 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 4: and Elon Musk and much of the Trump cabinet, certainly 84 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: including Trump himself, see if you buy into this thesis, 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: have accomplished more than any other cabinet that has been 86 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: put forth ever before, not all in government, but actually 87 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 4: done things. And I understand there are some people out 88 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 4: there that get into bureaucracies and you're really good at 89 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 4: moving yourself up from a G one to a G 90 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 4: six or however the heck they give government ratings and 91 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: you're embedded in that bural. 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: I think those are private jets. 93 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, go oh, I need to get a G 94 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: six all right, So I'm not knocking it. But I 95 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: don't even know there's classifications inside to the government, right 96 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: you can rise to different levels. Income is connected to it. 97 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 4: I would many of these jobs I would have no 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: interest in. Many of you out there in our audience 99 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: would have no interest in because you're driven. I know 100 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 4: I am to try to do something new in an 101 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 4: entrepreneurial way, and that, to me is what I love 102 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: so much about huge swaths of the nominees that Trump 103 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: is putting forward, they've actually succeeded in something other than government. 104 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: I don't think government, this is my personal opinion, should 105 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 4: be your life's ambition, in your life's work. To me, 106 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: it should be something that you do after you have 107 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: done something else successfully and then you are able to 108 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: give back. 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: That's my personal life. That would be public. 110 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: Service instead of self service, which is what we have 111 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: so much with a permanent political class and really the 112 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: extensions of it. And I think it is something that 113 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: we cannot shy away from and need to keep in 114 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: mind that I can't remember the exact number. Something like 115 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: six of the top ten per capita wealthiest counties in 116 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: the entire United States are just the ring around DC, 117 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: which is just all it's all just government contractors, lobbyists, 118 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: people who are suckling at the government teat that is 119 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: what is going on with that. There's not some other 120 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: industry in DC. Okay, there's not some other massive, multi 121 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: multi billion dollar industry that is centered in DC. It 122 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 1: is the federal government. It is government as a means 123 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: of enrichment and clay. There's this whole permanent and then 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: this gets to the sort of ruling class and also 125 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: the swamp idea. There's an echelon of people who they 126 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 1: get there and they do this for a long time, 127 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: and maybe a part of or a side effect of 128 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: doing it for so long as they can to think 129 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: that they're the ones that are supposed to be in 130 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: charge for the rest of us. And you certainly have 131 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 1: that in the federal bureaucracy. And this is where I say, really, 132 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of chilling. It's a joke, but 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: it's a little chilling to those of us who think 134 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: about it. Whether it's the State Department's famous for this 135 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: that presidents come and go, but the State Department is forever. 136 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: As in their running foreign policy, it doesn't matter who 137 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: the people elect. Now, run that same idea through all 138 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: of these federal agencies. 139 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: Run that same idea. Now through the Department of Justice. 140 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: I might add, where the idea that the president and 141 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: his enforcement priorities should be taken should be taken seriously 142 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: when it's a Republican I think has run into a 143 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: lot of resistance and obviously the weaponization of it. You know, 144 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: we can go into this forever. But there's another part 145 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: of this too, Clay. With Pete facing this confirmation, I 146 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: think he's going to have the votes, but Democrats are 147 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: going to try to They're going to try to extract 148 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: as much humiliation and pain from Pete as they can. 149 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: That's what I think we can all get ready for 150 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: as well. These are not honorable people. They do not 151 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: honor pete service. They do not care that he put 152 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: himself in a place where he very very well could 153 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: have been maimed or killed that so many of our 154 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: servicemen in Iraq and Afghanistan were. They will say they care, 155 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: They do not care. They will try to humiliate him. 156 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Here's Senator Cornyn, who's straight up saying that he's like, yeah, 157 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: he's going to be confirmed, but it's going to get 158 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: ugly play twelve. 159 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 5: I know of no one who said they will vote 160 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: against him. Senator Earnst, you mentioned, has had a couple 161 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 5: of meetings now, in the most recent one says she 162 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 5: will certainly support this processes that goes forward. I know 163 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 5: everybody is eager to see these nominees confirmed, but we 164 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 5: haven't even started the new Congress yet, which is where 165 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 5: we will actually be doing that. But it's important for 166 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 5: all of these nominees to come around and answer questions. 167 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 5: I told Pete this is going to be a very 168 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 5: unpleasant process for him and his family, having been involved 169 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 5: in the Kavanaugh hearings, for example. I know they'll be 170 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 5: unnamed accusations and some things that are going to be hurtful, 171 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: not only to him and his family. But he's ready 172 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 5: for that, his wife is ready for that, and I'm 173 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 5: confident he will be confirmed. 174 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: Now, you know, kind of a mixed bag there from Cornyn. Right, Yeah, 175 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: he's confident to be confirmed, but he's saying he's going 176 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: to be dragged over the dragged over the uh, over 177 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: the broken glass and clay. To the point you're making 178 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: about serving the country. Pete had a seven figure job 179 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: working at Fox News. He could have just done that 180 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: and been very happy, and you know, and down the line, 181 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of use his wealth, either start 182 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: his own company, you know, just do whatever he wants 183 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: to do. He's going into this meat grinder. He's choosing 184 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: to do that, And that tells you a lot. 185 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: I think so. 186 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: And that's the kind of people I wanted government. 187 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: And we come back. Have you seen the latest. 188 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 4: Smear that they're trying to getst Hegseth. No, they they 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 4: We were working on a story that is now blown up. 190 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 4: But I think it's indicative of what John Cornyn was 191 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: just saying. Pete Hegseth had said before, Hey, I thought 192 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: about going to West Point and I was admitted and 193 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: decided not to go there. He went to I think 194 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: Princeton instead, smart guy Prince. We talked about him playing 195 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: basketball there when his most recent book came out, if 196 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: I remember, and they were writing a story because somebody 197 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: at West Point leaked that he had never applied and 198 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 4: never been admitted, and they were going to run a 199 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: story saying that he was lying about it. He got 200 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: out ahead of this and posted his admission letter to 201 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: West Point. The question I have and he was admitted, 202 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: and like he's got the Thankfully he's still got the 203 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: evidence of it. Who inside of West Point is trying 204 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: to sabotage the potential secretary of Defense? And how does 205 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: that person still have a because the newswriters are saying 206 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 4: that they were tipped off by someone inside a West 207 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: Point saying there's no record of Pete Hegseth ever applying 208 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: or being admitted. 209 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, we also see this, and I know 210 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: all of you know this. Pete Hegseth. They attack, They say, well, 211 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: he only went to Princeton and then he went to Harvard, 212 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: but he said he got into west Point and he 213 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: didn't get into west Point, and they try to They 214 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: would elect fake Indian Elizabeth Warren president tomorrow if they could. 215 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: She is a fake Indian, built her whole career on it. 216 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: And they do not care. 217 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: But Pete, whether or not he got into West Point 218 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: is now a matter of national concern. It just goes 219 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: to show you this is the different These are the 220 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: two different scales that they apply, and they don't care. 221 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: The point is that it is unfair. Right, It's not 222 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: that they think it's fair. The point is that it's unfair. 223 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: But I want somebody fired over this because they reached 224 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: out to a left wing news organization based on whatever 225 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 4: files they had, trying to sabotage Pete Hegseth. Now thankfully 226 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: he still had the letter and he published it in 227 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 4: advance and posted it on his Twitter feed. But this 228 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: is what they do. They use the media to try 229 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: to destroy you, and they typically hide in the process. 230 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 4: So who at the US Military Academy, which of every 231 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: how about be nonpartisan? How About don't weid in on 232 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: somebody nominated for Secretary of Defense who may be in 233 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: charge of your institution, Democrat or Republican. I don't think 234 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 4: you should be leaking information about somebody's college records. Now, 235 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: thankfully Hegseth had it, but they tried to sabotage him. 236 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: Clay, when people realize and I know that we all 237 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: think we know, but I'm telling you from even what 238 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: I hear just inside a Langley, when people find out 239 00:12:53,840 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: how deep and widespread the infiltration of pronoun announcing America 240 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: hating communists into the federal bureaucracy and into the military, 241 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: into the upper echelons of leadership or management within different military. 242 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: It will blow everyone's minds when we have a better 243 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: sense of this. It is far more pervasive than the 244 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: everyday folks realize. And even though people like me, I mean, 245 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: I've been out of the agency now over over what 246 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: a decade and a half, I don't even know the 247 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: full extent of it because things have gotten worse and 248 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: worse than worse. We'll come back into this though, and 249 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: also talk a little bit about DOGE. Got a couple 250 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: of smart guys involved in DOGE. I think that's fair 251 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: to say. I think they got some big plans. 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Here we'll ask him about this West 285 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: Point scandal, what he thinks should happen there, and also 286 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: just continue to talk about Pennsylvania and what a battleground. 287 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: It has become. 288 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: Buck, I don't know if you saw this, but speaking 289 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: of Pennsylvania, we'll maybe talk about this with Sean Parnell 290 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: a bit. Did you see where Scott Presler, who basically 291 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: focused entirely on registering people in Pennsylvania, has decided on 292 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: a new target state and it's New Jersey. And he 293 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: believes that based on if you go back and look 294 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: at the data, Trump lost Pennsylvania in twenty twenty by 295 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: I think it was eighty thousand votes and then flipped 296 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: it and came back to win by one hundred and 297 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: twenty thousand votes in twenty twenty four. I believe New 298 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: Jersey was only decided by eighty thousand votes. And he 299 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: thinks that there is a play to be made in 300 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: the state of New Jersey to potentially make it a 301 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: competitive battleground. 302 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: State based on the data. 303 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Jersey, you know what I mean, 304 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: Come on, call, you gotta come Republic and. 305 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: What are you doing in New Jersey? 306 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: Remember we've got the reason the timing on this is 307 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: interesting is we've got elections for governor in both Virginia 308 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: and New Jersey, which will be the first test of 309 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: the first year of the Trump regime. And so we 310 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 4: almost flipped New Jersey in twenty twenty one. I thought 311 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: that was interesting. But I'll I'm curious because what Sean 312 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: Parnell will say. Did you see Fetterman's comments on the 313 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: murder of the CEO Healthcare CEO? He totally ripped anyone 314 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: trying to turn this Luigi guy into a hero. How 315 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: much of Fetterman's acts are now They flipped the Senate seat, 316 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: they flipped the back to maybe he's feeling seat, yeah 317 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 4: he I mean, Pennsylvania is headed. 318 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: The Democrats used to have this contingent at least of 319 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: the kind of everyday working man. 320 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I want some big government. 321 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: Wants to help the little guy, but common sense was 322 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: an outlawed common sense has been outlawed in the Democrat Party, 323 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: and that's not going to be a long term winning 324 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: play for them. 325 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 4: Look the big wireless companies, what have you think? 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That's pound two five zero, say Clay 349 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 4: and Buck. 350 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: I'm back into Clay and Buck. 351 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: We got our friend Sean Parnell with US now combat veteran, 352 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: all around badass American patriot, host of Ground podcast on 353 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck Network, which is doing phenomenal numbers. 354 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: Thank you all for listening in. 355 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: Sean does a great show, and Sean appreciate you being 356 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: with us here. You me, Clay. We all have one 357 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: thing in common other than being dashingly handsome, and that 358 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: is we are all friends of Pete hag Seth and 359 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: are are hoping that he is able to take the 360 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: reins of Secretary of Defense. You know you're a warfighter, 361 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: a true combat veteran. I wrote a great book about 362 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: an outlaw platoon which I have read every word of, 363 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to give you the floor to 364 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: speak about not just you know, get Yeah, you're pro Pete. 365 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: We're pro Pete. But from the warfighter perspective, I'm seeing 366 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: so many special operations guys, so many guys with many 367 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: combat tours in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, who are saying, 368 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: we've got to give this shot to Pete. We've got 369 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: to put him in the in the role. Why is that. 370 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 5: You know? 371 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 6: Pete's a war fighter? I mean, plain and simple, I mean, 372 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 6: I've known Pete Haig Seth buck Clay for a very 373 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 6: long time. I mean we were both in the infantry 374 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 6: around the same time together, and we worked at Concerned 375 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 6: Veterans for America during the exact same time period that 376 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 6: these supposed fake allegations, all this stuff happened in the 377 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 6: New Yorker. And you know what I know about Pete, 378 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 6: and what has been true about Pete for a very 379 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 6: long time, guys, is that he has a deep, abiding 380 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 6: love of the war fighters. He appreciates the people who 381 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 6: are in the trenches, who are on the front lines, 382 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 6: front towards enemy. He appreciates the people who do the 383 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 6: heavy lifting in the military. And that doesn't necessarily mean 384 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 6: certainly not talking about the people with stars on their shoulders. 385 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 6: But the actual warfighters. And you know what's I think 386 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 6: so brilliant about the hag Seth pick here is that 387 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 6: he is an outsider. He's somebody that thinks outside the box. 388 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 6: Having worked with him before, he is very, very reform minded, 389 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 6: and he understands the issues both of the Pentagon and 390 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 6: the military. And he knows what it feels like to 391 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 6: have a bullet cracked by his head, so that matters too. 392 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 6: But he understands these policy issues in a very deep 393 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 6: and substantive way, and I think that bodes well for 394 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 6: his prospects through the confirmation process and when eventually he 395 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 6: gets confirmed in a Secretary of Defense. So all of 396 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 6: these things are great things. But beyond all of that, 397 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 6: I just love the guy. He's a good man, he's 398 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 6: a good husband, he's got a great family, and I 399 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 6: think he'll be great for the job. 400 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: I want to dive in with you because I saw 401 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 4: you tweeting about this and we just talked about it 402 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 4: a couple of minutes ago. West Point, the Public Affairs 403 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: Group or whoever they are, tried to undercut Pete. Heg 404 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: Seth's nomination by reaching out to media and saying, not 405 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 4: only is Pete Hegseth lying about getting into West Point. 406 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: He never even applied, and then HEGs posted the letter 407 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: of admission that he received on social media. I'm good 408 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: for him that he still has it, because you know 409 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: not that I got admitted that many places. But I 410 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: have no idea what happened to any of my edition's letters. 411 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 4: I got rejected a lot of places for law school too, 412 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: by the way, I don't know what happened to those either. 413 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: But what's going on here? Like Sean he would theoretically 414 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 4: be in charge of the United States Military Academy, Democrat, Republican, 415 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: whatever else. It is the fact that they tried to 416 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: sabotage him. Somebody needs to get fired here. We need 417 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: an investigation into what happened. 418 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 6: And this is precisely why you need somebody like Pete, 419 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 6: because these are once venerated institutions, the Department of Defense, 420 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 6: the Pentagon, the US Military Academy at west Point, they 421 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 6: have been infested with these radical leftists and key positions 422 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 6: for quite some time now. I'm not talking about everybody 423 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 6: in the Pentagon or at the United States Military Academy. 424 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 6: I'm not painting with broad strokes here, but the folks 425 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 6: there are lots of decision makers in these is in 426 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 6: West Point that are radical leftists that put the radical 427 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 6: leftist agenda before in this case the military UH, the 428 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 6: mission of the United States Military Academy. And you described 429 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 6: it perfectly, Clay. This was somebody at West Point trying 430 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 6: to undermine an incoming president Alex Pick for Secretary of Defense, 431 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 6: who would theoretically be in charge of West Point, to 432 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 6: try to tank his nomination. That was the motivation behind this. 433 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 6: And ironically enough, this is precisely why we need an 434 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 6: outsider in a guy like Pete to root out this 435 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 6: radical leftist infestation at the Pentagon and other at the 436 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 6: Pentagon UH and and and focus the mission of the 437 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 6: United States mission of the United States Military on lethality 438 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 6: first last and always get us back to our war 439 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 6: fighting mission. Get rid of all the DEI stuff, get 440 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 6: all the get rid of all the own stuff, get out, 441 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 6: get rid of all the stuff that is a distraction 442 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 6: to the warfighter, and focus on the mission. And in 443 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 6: the case of West Point, the mission is raising up 444 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 6: officers who embody duty, honor, country, service, selfless service, sacrifice, 445 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 6: not focused on tanking political nominations. 446 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: Speaking of Sean Parnell. Battleground is his podcast on the 447 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck Network. Go subscribe to the network and 448 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: look for Battleground. Give it a listen. You will love it. Sean, 449 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: let's talk politics for a second here. I mean we 450 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: kind of were in a sense, right they're trying to 451 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: block people political reasons, but you know, more in the 452 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: on the electoral politics side of things, we were just 453 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: discussing Pennsylvania. Amazing work, Scott Presler, bit did your home 454 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: state delivered? We got a great new senator coming in 455 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: with Dave McCormick. Fetterman, you're familiar. You ran for Congress, right, 456 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: you know that the deal the political landscape in Pennsylvania 457 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: very well. Fetterman is saying a lot of sensible stuff, 458 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: and people get sometimes a little mad at those like 459 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: me who will just say, look what he said is good. 460 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, is this is he not? Do you 461 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: think he's actually changing the way he views things? Or 462 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: is this just a gamut? Is this just something that 463 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: he's doing because he sees where the political winds are blowing? Like, 464 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: how would you assess this? Because he's definitely not saying 465 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: the woke stuff these days. 466 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 6: He definitely I'll just say this, he definitely sees the 467 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 6: way that the political wins are are blowing and knows 468 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 6: that he has election and election coming up in twenty 469 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 6: twenty eight. And just do the simple math. From twenty 470 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 6: twenty six, hundred and fifty thousand more registered Democrats than Republicans. 471 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 6: In twenty twenty four, that number is three hundred thousand 472 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 6: in change, so still a lot more Democrats than Republicans. 473 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 6: But look, Republicans just won the state up and down 474 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 6: the ballot, a clean sweep of Republicans in Pennsylvania in 475 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 6: twenty four So in another four years, I mean, this 476 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 6: state could be even Republican Democrats and that makes the 477 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 6: state very, very tough for him. So John Fetterman is 478 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 6: going to have to do some things to reach across 479 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 6: the aisle, give conservatives some you know, quote unquote wins 480 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 6: while simultaneously voting the way that the Democrat Party wants 481 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 6: him to vote. And to me, that's the key differentiator. 482 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 6: Don't listen to the things that John Fetterman says, Like 483 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 6: he says some cool, catchy stuff that conservatives like to 484 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 6: latch onto, but watch how he votes. A good example 485 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 6: of this is Israel. He waives the Israeli flag all 486 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 6: the time, but he votes against aid for Israel in 487 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 6: the Senate over and over and over again. So you 488 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 6: can't in many cases listen to how the Democrats talk. 489 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 6: You have to watch how he votes. So fuck and Clay. 490 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 6: If he votes starts voting with the Republicans, then I'll 491 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 6: take him a heck of a lot more serious than 492 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 6: the way he is now. But the last thing I'll 493 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 6: say about John Fetterman is this, and I'll give him 494 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 6: a compliment. John is one of the few elected officials, 495 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 6: especially now on the Democrats side of the isle, who 496 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 6: seemed totally out of touch with reality on most things. 497 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 6: But John Fetterman really truly does understand Pennsylvania, and so 498 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 6: I will give him credit for that, and for that 499 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 6: for that reason alone, it makes him a very formidable politician. 500 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 6: And so the fact that he's this forward thinking, sees 501 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 6: the numbers, sees that the state is trending right. The 502 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 6: fact that he's already thinking about this in twenty four 503 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 6: for a cycle in twenty eight just gives you a 504 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 6: sense that he does have some political strategy up up here. 505 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 6: He does understand the state, He understands the demographics and 506 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 6: so makes him formidable and Republicans should not take him 507 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 6: for granted. 508 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 4: Sean, I know we're four years out from a major election, 509 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: but how durable do you think the new calculus, the 510 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 4: new math is four Pennsylvania. You mentioned that you think 511 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: the state is tilting red. Trump one hundred and twenty 512 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 4: thousand vote win in the state of Pennsylvania. It was close, 513 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: but it was a major statement win. How much of 514 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 4: that is Trump and how much of that is the 515 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 4: overall trajectory of Pennsylvania moving in a Republican direction. 516 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 6: Well, so a lot of this is Trump, and I 517 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 6: think part of our job moving forward in the Commonwealth 518 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 6: of Pennsylvania is try to preserve this crazy coalition cross 519 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 6: section of people that only show up for Trump. Our 520 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 6: job moving forward is to figure out how to get 521 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 6: those people to the ballot box each and every cycle, 522 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 6: not just in midterms, but in off cycles as well. 523 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 6: Consider this all the work that we did with early 524 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 6: votes in mail in ballots this cycle. Dave McCormick, he 525 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 6: won twenty seven counties and vote cast by mail. Of 526 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 6: the sixty seven counties in Pennsylvania, McCormick won twenty seven. 527 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 6: Doctor oz in twenty twenty two won two. But in 528 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 6: those twenty seven counties that Dave McCormick won, his margin 529 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 6: of victory was twenty one thousand mail in votes. That 530 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 6: was greater than a statewide margin of victory. So what 531 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 6: we did in Pennsylvania, in addition to President Trump just 532 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 6: being very strong at the top of the ticket, what 533 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 6: we did for Dave McCormick and Republicans down ballock was 534 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 6: literally the difference. And so you don't see the same 535 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 6: dynamic playing out in Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona, and other places. 536 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 6: But what we did in Pennsylvania made the difference. And 537 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 6: so we're going to have to focus on all of 538 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 6: the you know, hey, vote by mail early vote operation, 539 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 6: continue banging the drum on voter registration, getting low prop 540 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 6: voters to the polls, and continuing to cobble together this 541 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 6: very eclectic coalition that Trump brings to the table, because 542 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 6: that is the base of our party now and we've 543 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 6: got to serve them. 544 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: Well, what are you hitting on Battleground Podcast this week, Sean? 545 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 6: We got to talk about Pete's confirmation process, actually all 546 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 6: of President Trump's cabinet nominees, in the fact that it's 547 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 6: very rare for cabinet nominees to be voted down by 548 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 6: Democrats or Republicans, but we've let the media gaslight us 549 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 6: into believing that that's possible this cycle. 550 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: So we're going to go into the politics on all 551 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: of that. 552 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 6: So we're Monday through Friday on the Clay and Buck 553 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 6: podcast network. 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Welcome back in Play, Travis, Buck Sex 586 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 4: and show appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 587 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: We're rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program. 588 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 4: By the way, Amir o'hanna, speaker of the Israeli Knesset, 589 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 4: he is the third ranking individual in the Israeli government. 590 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: He wanted to talk to us. There are a lot 591 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: of fans of the radio program over in Israel. He 592 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: is going to be with us. I taped this earlier. 593 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 4: I was with him in the third hour about what's 594 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: going on in Syria, what about Iran, what about the 595 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 4: election of President Trump? And what does he think about 596 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: the relationship that Trump and Israel are going to have. 597 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 4: What was the significance of moving the embassy to Jerusalem. 598 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 4: Really interesting conversation with him. I think you guys are 599 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: going to enjoy that. That's going to be in the 600 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 4: next hour that I recorded in Jerusalem. Looking forward to that. 601 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 4: But yesterday, speaking a controversial I made a clearly true 602 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 4: to the buck Sexton old man and his anti Harry 603 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 4: Potter takes are out of step with American life. 604 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: And the reaction was massive. 605 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 4: Including many of you who wait in with your own 606 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 4: messages for me, including one of our listeners, Ken in Lincoln, Nebraska, 607 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 4: home of the corn Huskers. 608 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 2: He was really fired up about this. Listen to what 609 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: he had to say. Clay, I'm a black guy who 610 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: listens to your show. No, I'm not African American. I'm Black. 611 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: I cannot believe. 612 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: That you would put Harry Potter and Star Wars in 613 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: the same sentence. 614 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: You're lost, Clay lost. 615 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: That man is correct? I correct? 616 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 4: Wow, I mean I used to think that people of Lincoln, 617 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: Nebraska were a fine group of upstanding individuals, just hoping 618 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 4: that their corn huskers could return to nineteen nineties glory. 619 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: And then my man and let's see, let me get 620 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 4: his name right, my man Ken just comes after me. 621 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: Ken. You're wrong. 622 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 4: You and Buck are are just on the wrong side 623 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: of history here, frankly, and just because you hate fun, 624 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: enjoy and effervescent children overcoming evil doesn't mean that I 625 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 4: have to stoop to your level. You're just wrong. Why 626 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: you gotta be so mean as the esteem? Taylor Swift 627 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 4: once said. 628 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean Star Wars is an era defining movie spectacle 629 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: and change cinema. 630 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: Harry Potter is you know, It's like, I don't know, 631 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 632 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna blow your mind. Harry Potter is more influential 633 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 4: than Star Wars. 634 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: Dude, the I'm not kidding the amount of people dressed 635 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: as Jedi with lightsabers that are gonna be waiting outside 636 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: your next book signing just went up dramatically. I'm telling you, 637 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: Obi Wan Kenobi lookalikes are never going to forget this Clay. 638 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm telling I get it. 639 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 4: All the what do they call them, the cosplay people, 640 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 4: all the people who wear their their cost tooth. By 641 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 4: the way, a lot of them are Harry Potter people too. 642 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,959 Speaker 4: They even play fake quidditch right, which isn't even real. 643 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 4: They are crazy. Here's my argument. Star Wars incredibly influential. 644 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 4: I'm not anti Star Wars for all of you out 645 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 4: there that are coming after me with your blaster guns, 646 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 4: but the book and the movie is more influential than 647 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 4: just the movie standing alone. And I think Buck, if 648 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 4: you had been born in two thousand or nineteen ninety 649 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 4: instead of or yeah, nineteen ninety or two thousand, you 650 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 4: would feel very differently about this hate that you're spreading 651 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 4: on the biggest radio show in the country. And we 652 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: will continue to allow everyone to rate way in, including 653 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 4: Dan in Denver, who says Buck's wrong. 654 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: Listen, my god, that Harry Potter rant there. I think 655 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 2: we know who the. 656 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: Grendle is now, wow, throwing me under the bus as 657 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: it's you know it's Frendle, just because I don't like 658 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: Harry Potter doesn't mean that I go tearing Vikings in 659 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 1: half and eating them. 660 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 2: That's a little intense. 661 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 4: We have monster audiences thanks to kfab listener that was 662 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 4: Ken and thanks to Freedom ninety three point seven Katie 663 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 4: FD in Denver. Those Denver numbers have gotten huge. We 664 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 4: love all of you, but really love the people who 665 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 4: are on the right side of history. Here and join 666 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 4: me in Harry Potter Vanquishing Star Wars third hour, Next