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Speaker 1: egg dot com. It's Masters Week, the arguably best week
Speaker 1: of the year, and it's upon us. It's been just
Speaker 1: a few months since the last Masters. For this episode
Speaker 1: to preview the Masters, I thought nobody would be better
Speaker 1: than Shane Bacon. Shane is a host of Golf Today.
Speaker 1: He does it with Damon Hack over the weekends and
Speaker 1: tournament rounds during the week every week on Golf Channel.
Speaker 1: This year, he will be part of the Live from
Speaker 1: crew as well as he will be doing some Masters
Speaker 1: dot Com coverage, so he's dialed in. Needed to bring
Speaker 1: somebody on that's smarter than me to talk about this Masters.
Speaker 1: So we each came up with five things to talk
Speaker 1: about and we get into it. So this should get
Speaker 1: you all primed and ready to go for the Masters.
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Speaker 1: so check out that in the Shotgun Start feed, on Spotify,
Speaker 1: iTunes wherever you get your podcasts. But without further ado,
Speaker 1: here is the great Shane Bacon.
Speaker 2: I miss a green for example, I'm already upset when
Speaker 2: I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 2: And when I find my ball in a bright egg
Speaker 2: Frida egg, the dreaded Frida egg, Frida Egg Egg Egg,
Speaker 2: Frida egg bride egg Lie, I'm about ready to run
Speaker 2: off of the hump course.
Speaker 1: Shane, welcome back. It's been a while.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you having me excited, uh to be on the
Speaker 2: Frida Egg podcast. You've got a fancy polo on and everything.
Speaker 2: Look at you with your is that a seminal polo.
Speaker 1: It is a semino polo. Nice your fancy boy recently visited.
Speaker 1: Always good to take a locker on that place. They
Speaker 1: got that Walker cup coming up.
Speaker 2: I'm jealous. I'm jealous. Have you've never been down there?
Speaker 2: Never playing golf in that area? And I think we are.
Speaker 2: Wife and I are planning a get out of the
Speaker 2: Northeast the real winter of February trip down to Florida
Speaker 2: next year. That's one of our things. And so I
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna be texting and hitting up everybody I
Speaker 2: can about playing a little bit of.
Speaker 1: Golf the swap. Yeah, you know, outside of a few places,
Speaker 1: you could kind of forget about playing golf down there,
Speaker 1: but the few play. If you're only going for a
Speaker 1: few days, there's plenty of good places to see.
Speaker 2: I listen, I'm not that fancy. Just as long as
Speaker 2: it's got a T box, a couple of greens that
Speaker 2: I can swing in, and it's not you know, thirty
Speaker 2: two degrees in Windy, I'm gonna be in on it.
Speaker 1: That was the most amasic thing I've found was it
Speaker 1: was like seventy five and Sauday every day. It's just
Speaker 1: unbelievable way to live here Winters. Hey, Yeah, Golf Channel personality.
Speaker 1: We haven't talked to you. You know, you are the
Speaker 1: host of Golf Today, you host it with David Hack,
Speaker 1: and now you're also part of Live From. I got
Speaker 1: to ask, you know, as a golf fan who grew
Speaker 1: up with Live Frun being kind of like an institution
Speaker 1: of major championships like round ends you turn on Live From,
Speaker 1: do you pitch yourself a little bit about being part
Speaker 1: of that?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean, I you know, being at the Players
Speaker 2: and get a chance to kind of host it every
Speaker 2: day was wild. You know, getting a chance to kind
Speaker 2: of be in that seat and work with Noda and
Speaker 2: Trevor and it's we're recording on Tuesday. Damon Hack and
Speaker 2: I are going to host for a couple hours today
Speaker 2: and take through some of the pressures. I think we
Speaker 2: had Phil and Rory and Dustin, so that'll be fun.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I mean being a part of
Speaker 2: any of this stuff is just crazy. And being involved
Speaker 2: in the capacity, you know, I go back to two
Speaker 2: years ago, Andy with with you and I kind of
Speaker 2: bumming around Augusta and you guys obviously had had a
Speaker 2: lot of work. You guys were kind of getting shotgun
Speaker 2: start going, and you had the big Spey house and
Speaker 2: I was over there, but I didn't really have a
Speaker 2: lot I was doing in the area, you know, in
Speaker 2: terms of work and to kind of fast forward a
Speaker 2: couple of years and kind of have these opport comunities
Speaker 2: as wild. So yes, I definitely do pinch myself. I am.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to be a part of it. It's very
Speaker 2: very cool. I got, you know, more text during the
Speaker 2: players than I've received in a long time burning I've done,
Speaker 2: so I can only imagine what this week's going to
Speaker 2: be like. We did a look back. We do a
Speaker 2: thing tournaments, we forget. It's a little bit like kind
Speaker 2: of what you guys do in terms of kind of
Speaker 2: looking back. Obviously way more condensed version for TV, but
Speaker 2: we did a look at Damon and I had a
Speaker 2: look back. We called it a Master's worth remembering on Monday,
Speaker 2: where we look back in ninety one and Woozies win
Speaker 2: and then we're going to dive a little deeper into
Speaker 2: Rory today. So you know, it's just fun. It's five
Speaker 2: minute little hits here and there on live from and
Speaker 2: involved in that coverage is very cool.
Speaker 1: Sneaky underrated Old Masters. Is that Stadler one with Dan Pole.
Speaker 1: I love the Dan Pole story. He's got a golf
Speaker 1: course in Michigan called the pole Cat that he designed.
Speaker 2: The pole Cat, the Polecat. Have you played it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I want to, though, I need to see the logo.
Speaker 1: I know. And he was like he was like a
Speaker 1: long hitter before and obviously a great athlete, like they
Speaker 1: talked about how he could have played Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: He was, you know three. I think he was an
Speaker 1: All State in three different sports in high school. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's that was a cool one and he
Speaker 1: almost won, but it would have been one of those
Speaker 1: obscure Masters winners. But yeah, looking back at terments is
Speaker 1: so fun. You just find so much Little fo and
Speaker 1: Woozy is always a character to pull back threads out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I can kind of tell my wife
Speaker 2: this one day. I can go back over the course
Speaker 2: of my adult life and I kind of know how
Speaker 2: old I was, just depending on what I was wearing
Speaker 2: at the time. And one of the cool things about
Speaker 2: going back in any sports writing, but especially golf, is
Speaker 2: how they wrote, you know, how they wrote about the players,
Speaker 2: how they wrote about tournaments, the stuff they would dissect.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it was the way they looked. And
Speaker 2: you guys have focused a lot on this, the way
Speaker 2: they looked, the way they dressed. You don't you don't
Speaker 2: see that as much. I don't. I don't feel like
Speaker 2: writing is as revealing as in the negative as it
Speaker 2: used to be. And h and so it's definitely exciting
Speaker 2: to to kind of look look back on that that
Speaker 2: type of stuff. And obviously, I mean you forget sometimes
Speaker 2: how many people had chances to win. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: the thing about these major championships and these big events,
Speaker 2: is you know, players that didn't win one having so
Speaker 2: many opportunities. I can only imagine how many times on
Speaker 2: this podcast you're gonna bring up Lee Westwood and when
Speaker 2: you dive through his career to look at how close
Speaker 2: he's been so many times in this particular major championship
Speaker 2: and still hasn't won one. And you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: outside of maybe this year, probably will not win one.
Speaker 2: It's it's defeating. I had a friend of mine text
Speaker 2: me on Sunday. They were at Easter brunch in Florida,
Speaker 2: and Ernie Els was at the table next to him,
Speaker 2: and I got that text and I was bummed out
Speaker 2: because Ernie should be up here, you know, Ernie should
Speaker 2: be flying up to Augusta and playing on Sunday and
Speaker 2: getting ready for the Masters. And the fact that he's not.
Speaker 2: It just they're listened the windows short and you only
Speaker 2: have so many times. It was crazy. The one player
Speaker 2: I've heard mention that in this press conference this week
Speaker 2: was Callin Morakal of all players, who's you know, one
Speaker 2: of the youngest players in the field.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody always says, oh, he'll have another chance.
Speaker 1: I think that's something that like we always talk about
Speaker 1: with like oh, song Jay didn't get it done last Masters,
Speaker 1: He'll he'll get way more chances. But the thing about
Speaker 1: golf is like it is a fleet. It can be fleeting.
Speaker 1: We just saw it with Jordan Speith. We see it
Speaker 1: with players all all the time that just lose it.
Speaker 1: And you know, we saw it where Sevy played his
Speaker 1: best golf at a young age. Like the chances you
Speaker 1: might not get another one. People we always like to say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, he'll get way more chances at it. It's
Speaker 1: good that this guy one because you know so and
Speaker 1: so will has you know, ten of these. But it's
Speaker 1: really hard to win one of these four events every year,
Speaker 1: like everybody wants to win one of the four, and
Speaker 1: you know that's that's the thing. There aren't many chances.
Speaker 2: I was, I watch the Tiger this week on HBO.
Speaker 2: I'd never I hadn't watched it yet, and I watched it,
Speaker 2: and it to just kind of go back and remember
Speaker 2: what Tiger did in the majors, And obviously that was
Speaker 2: his focus, but you know India, any great player, that's
Speaker 2: their focus. And the fact that he just would win
Speaker 2: them all the time. He would show up the favorite
Speaker 2: and win them and win them different ways. And I
Speaker 2: called you a couple of days ago and was just
Speaker 2: talking about Hoylake and you know, him hitting iron off
Speaker 2: all those teas, like the fact that you can do
Speaker 2: that and pull it off and and be that consistent.
Speaker 2: And you you brought up a point, you said, the
Speaker 2: difference in the mentality then, which wasn't that long ago
Speaker 2: versus what we see now in modern golf. Bryson's press
Speaker 2: conference was just on. He was talking, he got asked
Speaker 2: and was talking about different approaches or angles he might
Speaker 2: take off the tees and it's just it's just so
Speaker 2: different that you know, it's it's I want to hit
Speaker 2: driver unless I can't, is the mentality now, and and
Speaker 2: and you know, not what fifteen years ago it was,
Speaker 2: I need to find fairways. That's that's the best chance
Speaker 2: of success.
Speaker 1: I know you're a big basketball fan. I'm a big
Speaker 1: basketball fan. But Tiger in a way is kind of
Speaker 1: reminiscent of the way Jordan or Lebron has won across
Speaker 1: different eras of the game and in drastically different styles,
Speaker 1: where both of them did it with sheer athleticism early
Speaker 1: and talent, and then as as they've aged, they've gotten
Speaker 1: it done different ways, where you know, Lebron's just like
Speaker 1: kind of like a bully. Now he's big, but it's
Speaker 1: not just the you know in Miami where he was
Speaker 1: just on a whole different athletic level than everybody else,
Speaker 1: and he was thin down like now he's a little
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a thick boy goes down
Speaker 1: there and he's still you know, you know, reads a
Speaker 1: defense unlike anybody else and knows where the ball's going,
Speaker 1: where the defense is coming from. But like Tiger was
Speaker 1: that way where he's won across different generations, different styles
Speaker 1: in playing playing different styles, you know, like Hoylake, like
Speaker 1: nobody would do that now, like where he just hit
Speaker 1: iron everywhere, but he won that way.
Speaker 2: It was it was it's wild. And when you watch
Speaker 2: the replays of the way he approached it, in the
Speaker 2: shots he hit, I was telling you, you know, this
Speaker 2: guy's hitting a blade two iron. I mean I had
Speaker 2: a blade titles two iron and when I had kind
Speaker 2: of the driver yips in my early twenties, and you know,
Speaker 2: you miss it sometimes and you hit it off the
Speaker 2: toe and it goes like two oh five, you know.
Speaker 2: And the fact that this guy is hitting a blade
Speaker 2: two iron in the center of the face, in the
Speaker 2: middle of every fairway was wild. And again to your point,
Speaker 2: it's it's that mentality, what do I need to do
Speaker 2: in this game against this team. You know, I've been
Speaker 2: trying to think of what's the most impressive thing in sport,
Speaker 2: and you brought up the lebron thing, and I think
Speaker 2: I've landed on this. I think the most impressive thing
Speaker 2: in sport is being a quarterback and winning super Bowls
Speaker 2: on different teams. Because you go to different coaches, different staff,
Speaker 2: different approach, different mentality, different players. You've got to get
Speaker 2: the best out of a completely different line. You know,
Speaker 2: you've got to get your defense on at least to
Speaker 2: a level that can be competitive because they've got to
Speaker 2: be able to pull their weight. And so when you
Speaker 2: look at like a Peyton Manning, you know, winning multiple
Speaker 2: super Bowls on different teams, and Tom Brady, and you
Speaker 2: think about how hard that must be, it brings up
Speaker 2: to what you said. It's Tiger won early in his
Speaker 2: career when he was longer than everybody else, and then
Speaker 2: he won a major where he didn't hit driver and
Speaker 2: you know, and then you watched twenty nineteen and it
Speaker 2: was this. It was a different looking golf swing. It
Speaker 2: was a different looking Tiger Woods. Yeah, and somehow the
Speaker 2: mentality the first tea, you know, the whole story about
Speaker 2: Tony fenw say, and he asked him a question, didn't
Speaker 2: really get a response, And all of those things might
Speaker 2: be different, but it's the same mind. And again that's
Speaker 2: that's the key to it. That's why tennis players are
Speaker 2: so great on different surfaces. It's because they're the same.
Speaker 2: It's the same mind. Say, it's knowing what to do.
Speaker 2: Tiger is the best ever in knowing what to do
Speaker 2: to get it done. Because Tiger knew was a seventy
Speaker 2: two whole battle, not just a one day, two day,
Speaker 2: three day deal.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who tweeted out on that Sunday morning
Speaker 1: where you know Tiger is his approach and mentality and
Speaker 1: relationships with his peers has changed so much in this
Speaker 1: last chapter of his career, where you know, he was
Speaker 1: friendly with everybody. And then I remember somebody tweeted out,
Speaker 1: I can't remember who, but it was like, Tiger's got
Speaker 1: that look, that look we haven't seen it in a while,
Speaker 1: like that that early Tiger look, and and where on
Speaker 1: Sunday he wasn't friends with anybody, No, And I think
Speaker 1: that that's like at the end of the day, when
Speaker 1: you get down to it, all time competitors, they hate
Speaker 1: losing more than they love winning.
Speaker 2: And it's the ones they remember, right, It's the ones
Speaker 2: that came so close. I mean, it's something I've always
Speaker 2: wanted to ask Tiger. You know which major that you
Speaker 2: lost hurt you the most? You know which one did
Speaker 2: you feel like you should have won?
Speaker 1: It's gotta be y e Yang, right.
Speaker 2: It's probably easy to lean on the y Yang one
Speaker 2: because he was so close and actually missed some late Putts.
Speaker 2: But you know there's probably some masters in there where
Speaker 2: he feels like he could have got more out of it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I go to twenty ten, you know that
Speaker 2: that that press conference after in ten where you know what,
Speaker 2: he finished fourth, you know, first golf tournament and however
Speaker 2: many months and you could tell he was frustrated. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was nothing, there was no positive he was taken
Speaker 2: from that finishing fourth. He was bummed that there was
Speaker 2: people that beat him. So I would always love to
Speaker 2: know which one he felt like that because something that
Speaker 2: I found so interesting. You know, I do the podcast
Speaker 2: Get a Grip with Max with Max Homa, and Max
Speaker 2: said after the Waste Management, you know, Max went on
Speaker 2: this great run this year, even before the win at Riviera,
Speaker 2: and he said, you know, I feel like I had
Speaker 2: the game to win at the Waste Management. And I
Speaker 2: think he finished forty first that week. You know, it
Speaker 2: wasn't he didn't finish second or fourth or eight. You know,
Speaker 2: he finished in the forties in this PJ Torvent, but
Speaker 2: he said, my ball striking was so good that I
Speaker 2: feel like I should have won that week. It's just
Speaker 2: it's so crazy how thin the line is.
Speaker 1: Right, I completely agree. Like, that's the thing I missed
Speaker 1: most about not being out covering these events occasionally in
Speaker 1: person is when you watch it in person, you realize, like, God,
Speaker 1: it's just a shot here or shot there. In AUGUSTA
Speaker 1: of all the places they play year in year out,
Speaker 1: might be one of the where that's magnified the most.
Speaker 1: It's like, definitely, it's did you pull off the shot
Speaker 1: on thirteen or did you hit in the water you
Speaker 1: make double instead of a potential birdie. Three shots and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the whole fabric of the tournament
Speaker 1: is completely different with it with this golf course where
Speaker 1: you know there's a car crash everywhere and it's not
Speaker 1: the best term, but ah, you know, just a bad,
Speaker 1: big number around every corner. That's the thing about this
Speaker 1: tournament is the line between excellence and disaster.
Speaker 2: Is so thin, and we see it and that and
Speaker 2: that is again what's so great is I feel like
Speaker 2: we see it to a certain extent every year. I mean,
Speaker 2: even in the November Masters, you know there were opportunities, right,
Speaker 2: and and the golf course played so different, but I mean,
Speaker 2: you've got to go get it even when it is
Speaker 2: playing that gettable and so it's such a different mentality
Speaker 2: I feel like, and I don't want to sneak into
Speaker 2: our five things that we're gonna get in too.
Speaker 1: You could. You could kick it off here, you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to kick it off. We each came
Speaker 1: up with five things. We'll go down them and we'll
Speaker 1: probably have some overlap. We haven't talked about what our five.
Speaker 2: Things are, so I want to real quick. You know,
Speaker 2: you're talking about the thin line and the mentality of
Speaker 2: this golf course and what I love about the Masters
Speaker 2: and what I think is so special and cool about it. First,
Speaker 2: obviously it's the Loan Major that we see at the
Speaker 2: same golf course every year, but it's the veteran players
Speaker 2: talking about Augusta National. And when they talk about Augusta National,
Speaker 2: it's always about the mistakes and avoiding the mistakes. And
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes I laugh about this each and every year,
Speaker 2: and I've done it since I was a kid. I
Speaker 2: laugh about thirteen, you know, because when the whole location
Speaker 2: is back right on thirteen, everybody hits it front left,
Speaker 2: and when the polocation's front left, everybody hits it back right,
Speaker 2: you know, because you just can't error on the wrong side.
Speaker 2: We did a deep dive on the nineteen ninety one Masters.
Speaker 2: I was telling you about there was this great quote
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholas talked about. So the golf course was playing
Speaker 2: pretty gettable in nineteen ninety one, and Nicholas in the
Speaker 2: second round was very much in contention, and he hits
Speaker 2: it in the water on twelve. The whole location was
Speaker 2: I believe it was front right in that second round,
Speaker 2: and he went after it because he said the conditions
Speaker 2: made him think it was a gettable shot, and he
Speaker 2: hit it in the water on twelve, and he makes
Speaker 2: triple and he of course berdi the next four holes,
Speaker 2: as Jack tends to do, but he makes triple there
Speaker 2: at twelve, and that kind of ended his chances. And
Speaker 2: he said, he goes, you know, in a different conditioned Masters,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I would have tried to pull that
Speaker 2: golf shot off. So again, it's just you see the
Speaker 2: flag on twelve and it's just floating over there on
Speaker 2: the right side, and you've got a nine iron if
Speaker 2: your Brooks Kopka or you're Molinari or your Tony Fena,
Speaker 2: and you go, I can hit this thing to ten
Speaker 2: feet And the moment you get out of what you
Speaker 2: have to think on this golf course is when the
Speaker 2: chances of the jacket go away. I want to start
Speaker 2: my five things though with something I feel like you'll appreciate.
Speaker 2: You're a guy much like me that likes weird stats,
Speaker 2: so I found this one. We are in a current
Speaker 2: run at the Masters of the return of the longer
Speaker 2: first name winners. Okay, yeah, oh yeah. So from nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety four to twenty and fourteen, nobody with a first
Speaker 2: name longer than five letters won the Masters. It was
Speaker 2: all short names. From twenty fifteen to now, we've had
Speaker 2: four winners with first names of six letters or longer.
Speaker 2: That brings in some of the players that I know
Speaker 2: you love in and around the game. The long first
Speaker 2: name is back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's good for like Christian bozeiden Out.
Speaker 2: He was one of the ones I'd circled. But I
Speaker 2: was looking at some of the longer names.
Speaker 1: It's that good for a guy named Lee or Rory.
Speaker 2: Well, they had they had the run though, you know
Speaker 2: lefties have success at Augusta National. Apparently the shorter the name,
Speaker 2: it helps.
Speaker 1: Trying to think of who else, like what big name?
Speaker 1: I guess six is six is questionable? On length. You know,
Speaker 1: I've got a netpick there, like six letters. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's pretty standard. But Patrick Reid's gotta love it. Dustin,
Speaker 1: I mean it's six there's a lot of six letter
Speaker 1: you know, almost all the top ten in the world
Speaker 1: outside of job rom is six letters bad.
Speaker 2: Can't Ley's got a chance? You know, the return Bryson
Speaker 2: has seen this long first name resurgence help his chances
Speaker 2: at August as well, so uh fitz.
Speaker 1: Hard the hard hitting analysis here.
Speaker 2: I love Aryl Hatton. I mean, just going down the
Speaker 2: list some jay. I mean, this twenty year run is
Speaker 2: thankfully for those guys attended.
Speaker 1: I think Arrell's gonna get in his own way. The
Speaker 1: major championships haven't haven't aligned with Tarrell.
Speaker 2: So maybe this is the week he changes.
Speaker 1: It exactly exactly. I love that. You know, that's a good,
Speaker 1: you know, non serious, but serious first starter.
Speaker 2: You're looking. This is what Andy does is he was
Speaker 2: looking to the top right, which means he was thinking
Speaker 2: of names. I could tell he was thinking of short
Speaker 2: or long names. I'm not sure which way you were going,
Speaker 2: but I could tell I could see the workings in
Speaker 2: the brain.
Speaker 1: Well, I've got a second screen, so I was looking
Speaker 1: at the second screen at the World Golf Records. I'd
Speaker 1: like to think that I could just pull all those
Speaker 1: names off the top of my head. Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: One of the things I'm watching is the old guys.
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm a big Lee Westwood fan. But besides Wes,
Speaker 1: he was looking for his first You got Justin Rose,
Speaker 1: Adam Scott, Sergio, Louis Stason, all these guys who have
Speaker 1: had a ton of success. Some of them have won
Speaker 1: in Augusta, others have been extraordinarily close all the time.
Speaker 1: All of them are getting into a little bit of
Speaker 1: their twilight of their years. Louis thirty eight, He's almost
Speaker 1: a little unfair to throw in this bucket. But all
Speaker 1: these other guys who we've watched for decades now play
Speaker 1: at Augusta National, are in their forties, and you know,
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five, especially in the case of Louis, Sergio, Scott,
Speaker 1: and Rose, two hundred and twenty five players have won
Speaker 1: one major championship eighty three of one two or more.
Speaker 1: So you're getting you know that adding that second major
Speaker 1: championship really does propel you into a different class player,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's one thing in this sounds this
Speaker 1: is the rich. You know, this is like being a
Speaker 1: ten one hundred millionaire and getting to the billionaire level.
Speaker 1: I feel like in golf, but there aren't that many
Speaker 1: guys that have won multiple major championships. And I think
Speaker 1: in this era of golf, we're going to see less
Speaker 1: of the eight plus major champions, six even six plus
Speaker 1: major champions. I think they're going to be rarer. So
Speaker 1: getting to two is such a big deal in terms
Speaker 1: of legacy when you're looking at the post Tiger era
Speaker 1: of golf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've called this era the era of the one
Speaker 2: time major winner for a few years now, and I
Speaker 2: think that's only getting easier to call the run. I
Speaker 2: mean when you look at the some of the players,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't call any major win a fluke,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, obviously you've got to play really
Speaker 2: well to win a major.
Speaker 1: Not even Jimmy Walker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, you know, Jimmy player, I mean Jimmy,
Speaker 2: I mean, Jason Day tried his hardest to win that,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean he makes eagle, two iron, two
Speaker 2: iron to make eagle and force Jimmy to to make
Speaker 2: par there at the last I mean he was being
Speaker 2: pushed his hardest. I mean, you think about Jason Duffner
Speaker 2: and Kevin Bradley, and there's these players that you know,
Speaker 2: I think you consider a notable player that's that's probably
Speaker 2: gonna end their career with one major win. I love
Speaker 2: the idea of who can get to two. And I think,
Speaker 2: you know, this is a golf course that favors experience,
Speaker 2: and this is a place that favors experience. And when
Speaker 2: you're Louis, You're Adam Scott, you're Sergio, you're justin Rose,
Speaker 2: you're in that crop of players that obviously understand AUGUSTA
Speaker 2: National and understand to a point what we talked a
Speaker 2: little bit about with Tiger, right, it's it's understanding. This
Speaker 2: is four day's you know, you the first day is important,
Speaker 2: but it's not overly important. Just get yourself out there
Speaker 2: and just get things going. Don't shoot something nasty, don't
Speaker 2: come out there and shoot thirty nine on the front
Speaker 2: on Thursday. And so yeah, it's it's gonna be. I
Speaker 2: don't know, I have a feeling, you know that I
Speaker 2: think that some of the names you mentioned could really
Speaker 2: get in the mix. I mean, you know, you obviously Lewis.
Speaker 2: What is a name that hasn't won a major yet,
Speaker 2: but I feel like he falls right under this, right,
Speaker 2: a guy that tends to play well if this golf
Speaker 2: course totally understands, it's been playing some great golf this year.
Speaker 2: So it's just this year, twenty twenty one, we've seen
Speaker 2: this run of older guys playing well. You know, We've
Speaker 2: got a couple of guys in their forties that won
Speaker 2: in the in the early part of the rap around
Speaker 2: the season, and Brian Gay and Stewart sinc. Obviously, we've
Speaker 2: seen some great play from Sergio and yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: we're just kind of waiting for some of the other
Speaker 2: names to step up. But it's I always feel like
Speaker 2: this is a place. I mean, we saw Freddy Couples
Speaker 2: do it for what like thirty years. It's a place
Speaker 2: that if you get Augusta, you can play it. And unfortunately,
Speaker 2: for a lot of the players, if you don't get Augusta,
Speaker 2: if you're a Lee Trevino or a Martin Timer, it's
Speaker 2: not it just doesn't ever make sense to you.
Speaker 1: I think the other thing with the if the weather
Speaker 1: holds off, if I saw there might be some rain Friday, Saturday.
Speaker 1: If there's no rain and it plays firm and fast
Speaker 1: the way they're talking about it, I think that is
Speaker 1: only going to play into the experienced player's hands more
Speaker 1: this year, just because it soft Augusta is a lot
Speaker 1: different than firm Augusta, and all of a sudden, being
Speaker 1: in the right place is magnified so much because you know,
Speaker 1: chipping from the wrong spot is infinitely harder when the
Speaker 1: when the Greens have a little fire to them.
Speaker 2: My second thing is obviously something I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people are focused on Andy and it's not some
Speaker 2: sort of a surprising thing, but it's I think it's
Speaker 2: what My number one thing I'm circling is just speak.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just want to see speed that Augusta again.
Speaker 2: Watching Jordan's speed play Augusta was poetic early in his career.
Speaker 2: It was he was the next guy, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like when you start to tick off the
Speaker 2: names that just seemed to get here every year, and
Speaker 2: and the Gulf, and it was they were gonna be
Speaker 2: in contention. I mean they might not win, but they
Speaker 2: were gonna be in contention. It was Jordan speed. I
Speaker 2: saw there was this crazy stat that are our boy,
Speaker 2: Justin Ray sent out. Speak has already led or co
Speaker 2: led nine rounds at the Masters. There's only four players
Speaker 2: all time with more Jack Palmer player in Woods and
Speaker 2: Tiger's Tenbelieva. That's the number. If he has one more,
Speaker 2: he ties Tiger's number at Augustin National. You know, obviously
Speaker 2: getting the win is getting to win. I don't think
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go either way with that. If he wins
Speaker 2: I Vleiro, it doesn't win of Leira. I don't think
Speaker 2: it hurts or helps his chances this week. But I
Speaker 2: just I'm excited to see Jordan Speed play this golf course.
Speaker 2: To me, it's it's what we're supposed to see in
Speaker 2: the modern game. Is is this is the next Masters guy.
Speaker 1: I you know, the thing with Speak too, is like
Speaker 1: even when he was in dark place as the last
Speaker 1: couple of Masters not playing well, he's still around, still
Speaker 1: taking cuts, Like I think. The thing that amazes me
Speaker 1: always and with no player I've ever you get this
Speaker 1: playing competitor, like playing golf at a fairly high level.
Speaker 1: Like there are guys that you just watched play and
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't understand how he just did what
Speaker 1: he did with like I imagine it's so frustrating for players
Speaker 1: that play with speed, because you know, you can walk
Speaker 1: off the golf course and feel like you've hit it
Speaker 1: so much better than them. And I think this happened
Speaker 1: with Rory famously when he played with Speth and speeds
Speaker 1: all over the place. He's in these weird spots, but
Speaker 1: he's never in horrible spots. Like he he knows where
Speaker 1: to put it around the green so he can get
Speaker 1: up and down. But and then he just takes advantage
Speaker 1: of And I think that's the thing. He's got this
Speaker 1: patience where he knows there are birdies out there to
Speaker 1: be made. But the key is his His will to
Speaker 1: not give shots up is so incredible. And his ability
Speaker 1: to shoot sixty seven when you think about almost any
Speaker 1: other player in the same positions would have shot seventy four,
Speaker 1: you know, like it is an astounding thing. I'm so
Speaker 1: the other thing, I'm just so happy he's back. I
Speaker 1: think going through what he just went through is going
Speaker 1: to be such a big thing for the rest of
Speaker 1: his career because I think it teaches him that it's
Speaker 1: not a given, that is not like necessarily a foregone
Speaker 1: conclusion that you're going to be one of the best
Speaker 1: players in the world all the time, and the fragility
Speaker 1: of the game and all the work that has to
Speaker 1: go in. I think it's it's just going to help
Speaker 1: him in the long run going through this adul drum
Speaker 1: that he went through.
Speaker 2: So we've always tried to find the next Tiger. I
Speaker 2: think we all label to Rory that. I think I
Speaker 2: was easy to do, you know, wheor he drove the
Speaker 2: ball unlike really anything we'd ever seen in our entire
Speaker 2: lives when he first came out and still to this
Speaker 2: day drives it incredibly well. Homa tells a story about
Speaker 2: playing with him with the Wells Fargo and he really
Speaker 2: never just missed a driver all day. Instead, on eighteen
Speaker 2: he kind of hits one and Max said he was
Speaker 2: going okay finally and he said it starts drawing back
Speaker 2: middle of the fairway and just he hit like a
Speaker 2: twelve yard draw there and not a six yard draw.
Speaker 2: And he was like, this guy's a machine. This is crazy.
Speaker 2: But you know, why is it that we have continued
Speaker 2: to skip over Speeth as the next Tiger. I mean
Speaker 2: their games are so similar, right, I mean Tiger was longer,
Speaker 2: you know, Tiger was one of the longest guys in golf,
Speaker 2: much longer than everybody was playing against in his prime especially,
Speaker 2: but never a great driver of the golf ball, would
Speaker 2: miss the drives in the right spot, much like what
Speaker 2: you were just saying about Jordan Speed. I mean, I
Speaker 2: always think about where Tiger hit it on eleven at Augusta.
Speaker 2: You know, during his prime, it's like he'd always miss
Speaker 2: it right because he knew he could make par. He
Speaker 2: knew he's not gonna hit a left, he's gonna make
Speaker 2: six right, and was an unbelievable iron player. Speats an
Speaker 2: unbelievable iron player, and their refusal to make bogey right,
Speaker 2: I mean, the mentality of I'm not gonna make bogey here.
Speaker 2: I don't care what I have to do. I go
Speaker 2: back to fifteen all the time. You know that last
Speaker 2: that third round where he makes double one set seventeen
Speaker 2: on Saturday. You know, he hits it over the green
Speaker 2: on eighteen, and all of a sudden, you're kind of
Speaker 2: sitting there, going, this could get bad for Speed, right,
Speaker 2: this is not what he wants to do. And he
Speaker 2: hits that shot, that flopshot from over the green at
Speaker 2: eighteen at Augustin makes Parr and obviously goes on to win.
Speaker 2: I feel like Speeeds comparisons to Tiger are as close
Speaker 2: as anybody since Tiger's prime. Yet we're always searching. We're
Speaker 2: looking at Dustin, we're looking at Rory, now, we're looking
Speaker 2: at Bryson, and I think the guy's been there the
Speaker 2: whole time.
Speaker 1: I think it's because the number one easiest thing to
Speaker 1: pick out from Tiger at an early age was his
Speaker 1: sheer overpowering nature comparison to other pros, and because it
Speaker 1: was mine though right, I know this is you know,
Speaker 1: I think over time as he developed, I think like
Speaker 1: Speith is more like a later Tiger Woods, like maybe
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, twenty eleven Tiger Woods where there have been
Speaker 1: other but like that, that sheer overpowering nature. And I
Speaker 1: think the thing is is that nobody's Tiger because nobody's
Speaker 1: been able to combine all of those things, right. Nobody's
Speaker 1: got combined the work, ethic, the iron play, the power,
Speaker 1: the incredible short game, the you know what you tell
Speaker 1: what we both talked about, the you know, refusal to
Speaker 1: give away shots. I think everybody's got some Tiger qualities,
Speaker 1: but in general, these great players are all missing one
Speaker 1: of them. Like you look at Rory, it's like god,
Speaker 1: those like the short iron play just leaves you wanting more.
Speaker 1: But then you watch Tiger play it is probably short irons.
Speaker 1: It was like, Okay, well he's in the fairway, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be ten feet. Yeah, you know, even if
Speaker 1: even if it wasn't ten feet all the time, that's
Speaker 1: how you felt. There was an air of inevitability versus
Speaker 1: like Rory's got this era of unpredictability. Rory's one of mine,
Speaker 1: And you know, the guy's his record at Augustus outstanding,
Speaker 1: his record in general, like even when he's in these
Speaker 1: doldrums of struggles, Like you look at his results and
Speaker 1: you're like, god, he finishes like top ten every week.
Speaker 1: But Rory at this point, I have no clue any
Speaker 1: result was surprised me. I actually I kind of like
Speaker 1: the fact that he's coming in here. There's no expectation
Speaker 1: on him for like the first time that I can remember.
Speaker 1: In the lead into the Masters, nobody is like, oh,
Speaker 1: Rory is a favorite. Everybody is kind of and I
Speaker 1: think not having that bright spotlight on him might be
Speaker 1: able to help. And like, as you know now, dealing
Speaker 1: with winter. Sometimes when you don't have expectations as a golfer,
Speaker 1: like you come out and you're always surprised, Like the
Speaker 1: first round, you're like, huh, I hinted that bad, like I,
Speaker 1: but you had zero expectations. I think with Rory, one
Speaker 1: of the things that he's really struggled with, and I
Speaker 1: think this is, you know, where we could talk about
Speaker 1: differences besides the short iron play with Tiger is like,
Speaker 1: I think Rory struggles a little bit with the heightened expectation.
Speaker 2: I think it's so wild to think about the confidence
Speaker 2: right for Rory McElroy, considering what he's done with the
Speaker 2: golf ball his entire life and the fact that he
Speaker 2: you know, mintioned things. Maybe I'm not as good as
Speaker 2: I used to be, you know after the PGA Championship.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Rory gives Rory's one of those
Speaker 2: guys that gives us everything we ever asked for in
Speaker 2: a professional athlete, and then sometimes we grow him for it,
Speaker 2: which is ridiculous. But you know, he's just unbelievably honest,
Speaker 2: and he talks about everything, and he doesn't shout away
Speaker 2: from any subject, and there's a ton of respect you know,
Speaker 2: on my end, on your end, you know, people to
Speaker 2: cover the game. To get these things from a guy
Speaker 2: that is one of the top names and faces in
Speaker 2: the sport is refreshing. I mean, I think about Dame Lillard,
Speaker 2: you know, my favorite player in the NBA now, and
Speaker 2: just how every time Dame talks it's impactful. You know,
Speaker 2: every time he says something, I feel like I'm listening.
Speaker 2: I want to I want to go back and find
Speaker 2: clips from the night before if I fell asleep because
Speaker 2: I live on the East Coast. In these games, one
Speaker 2: end till midnight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so by the way, well it's a struggle.
Speaker 2: Stayed up for the National Championship game last night, stayed
Speaker 2: up for the whole thing. It was like eleven forty
Speaker 2: five when I went to BET. I don't know how
Speaker 2: people do it, but yeah, I appreciate everything Rory says.
Speaker 2: You know, for me, I think you nailed It's it's
Speaker 2: having no flue. You know. The problem is is that
Speaker 2: you say what you said about expectations, and I agree
Speaker 2: with you that he's coming in with lessoned expectations. I
Speaker 2: think about a couple of years ago, you know, coming
Speaker 2: in after the win at the players and the way
Speaker 2: you've been playing. I think he had seven top tens
Speaker 2: and a row headed into the Masters, and we're all going,
Speaker 2: this is going to be it, right uh, And it wasn't,
Speaker 2: as it continues to be not it. But the moment
Speaker 2: that first tee shot happens on Thursday and he makes
Speaker 2: his first thirty and the first time he's on that
Speaker 2: leader board, I think the entire narrative changes. I think
Speaker 2: we all change when Rory does what we expect him
Speaker 2: to do. You know, this year for Rorri is he's
Speaker 2: got to get off to a better start. We've seen
Speaker 2: how brutal he's been in these opening rounds at the
Speaker 2: Majors the last few years. And then we're actually on
Speaker 2: Tuesday's Live from We're going to dive into I'm calling
Speaker 2: it that round. Rory continues to have that round at Augusta.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing he's got to somehow delete from
Speaker 2: his game plan is is the there's been just one round,
Speaker 2: one nine, one run for Rory that's basically ruined his chances,
Speaker 2: and no matter what he does on Saturday or Sunday,
Speaker 2: when he's eight or nine or ten back, it's just
Speaker 2: not going to be enough that's the difference to any now.
Speaker 2: I feel like with the talent on the PGA Tour
Speaker 2: and with the talent and professional golf is, I think
Speaker 2: it used to be a lot easier to make up
Speaker 2: for a bad round, you know, especially a bad round early,
Speaker 2: and now at a place like Augusta National, when it's
Speaker 2: playing a little softer like we saw in November, you
Speaker 2: just can't afford to shoot over par. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you shoot over par, you're not gonna win. It's just you.
Speaker 2: You can't make up the ground. There's too many good
Speaker 2: players that are always locked in. So you know, I
Speaker 2: was going through this, you know, to look through some
Speaker 2: of the Rory rounds. It's like he's he's you know,
Speaker 2: he's eight back, ten backs, seven back after the opening
Speaker 2: round or after the first two rounds. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: be perfect going into a weekend if you're gonna have
Speaker 2: even a chance to win. I know, Kyle Porter jokes
Speaker 2: about this all the time. You know, it's, well, if
Speaker 2: Rory shoots sixty five on Sunday, it's like people don't
Speaker 2: shoot sixty five on Sunday, you know, so he's got
Speaker 2: to shoot seventy on Thursday. Yeah, don't shoot, worry about
Speaker 2: shooting sixty five on Sunday, shoot seventy one on Thursday,
Speaker 2: and then you'll have.
Speaker 1: A chance exactly. And I think that comes with that
Speaker 1: heightened expectations. It makes it hard to get off to
Speaker 1: a good start. I look at championship golf too, and
Speaker 1: I think that there's always a six to nine hole
Speaker 1: stretch outside of the just utterly dominant performances in every major,
Speaker 1: the guy that wins has a six to nine hole
Speaker 1: stretch where he does not hit the ball very well
Speaker 1: and the wheels can come off, and it becomes about
Speaker 1: how they manage and get through that stretch, whether they
Speaker 1: make bogies and doubles or if they're just if they
Speaker 1: get make those ten footers, those twelve footers that save
Speaker 1: those clutch pars that feel like birdies after the places
Speaker 1: they've been like, it is so pivotal, and it's okay
Speaker 1: for Rory to have that bad stretch out of the gates,
Speaker 1: But what it's turned into is like what you said,
Speaker 1: it's like forty one on a nine. It's like McLeroy
Speaker 1: should not shoot thirty nine nine holes, especially at Augusta
Speaker 1: where the par fives. He doesn't he hasn't been feasting
Speaker 1: on the par fives the way he used to feast
Speaker 1: on him.
Speaker 2: I feel like, well, and one more thing on this
Speaker 2: and then I'll throw out another one at you. Is
Speaker 2: to your point, and I agree with you. That stretch,
Speaker 2: you know, that run you talk about where everybody has them,
Speaker 2: I mean outside of you know a few of the
Speaker 2: incredible dominant wins or you know the great runs we've seen.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, there's always that stretch. Right. What
Speaker 2: that says to me is short game, because your short
Speaker 2: game's got to get you out of those stretches. You know,
Speaker 2: you've got to be able to get it up and
Speaker 2: down from a bunker. You've got to be able to
Speaker 2: make a twelve footer for par And when we circle
Speaker 2: the parts of Rory's game that's lacking, that's less than
Speaker 2: those are the parts. I mean. He's just never been
Speaker 2: a great scrambler and he's never been a great putter.
Speaker 2: And so when you look at those things, when you're
Speaker 2: not hitting it great, you've got to lean on the
Speaker 2: short game to get you out of it until you
Speaker 2: find it again. And these pros find it in five
Speaker 2: holes or eight holes or nine holes. They find the
Speaker 2: swing again, they find what was not working. I mean,
Speaker 2: you go back, you know, you go back to ninety
Speaker 2: seven and again we've talked Tiger a lot, but just
Speaker 2: to go back to ninety seven and think about Tiger
Speaker 2: opening his Masters and shooting forty and you're kind of going, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, he didn't have it. This is this is strange,
Speaker 2: you know, but he could when he found it. It was
Speaker 2: thirty on the way in, right, and when he found it,
Speaker 2: it's still getting getting in it under par and so
Speaker 2: and to me, that's so much about the short game. Sure,
Speaker 2: he could, you know, attack these par fives and hit
Speaker 2: it close on fifteen like he did, and things like that.
Speaker 2: But it's the short game that saves you. And when
Speaker 2: you look at any great player, any great run they've
Speaker 2: had to win a major or to kind of keep
Speaker 2: the ship afloat, it's almost always, you know, getting the
Speaker 2: ball up and down in a couple of bad spots,
Speaker 2: make it a couple of great par saves, and then
Speaker 2: you get a chance to make the Verdier eagle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the small things like it's easy to look at
Speaker 1: strokes gained and say, oh, short game is the least
Speaker 1: important part of the game. But when you reach the
Speaker 1: highest level of the game and the highest level of
Speaker 1: championships with the best players in the world, the littlest
Speaker 1: thing are the things that separate the great and the
Speaker 1: winners from the guys that finished tenth. Like the line,
Speaker 1: like we've talked about already in this podcast. That line
Speaker 1: is so thin, and it's just the simple little things
Speaker 1: I even think back to, like the Annua just this
Speaker 1: last weekend, Like Migliaccio, she hid it in the bunker
Speaker 1: like so many people did on eighteen, but she gets
Speaker 1: it out. She's still got a wedgend and she got
Speaker 1: up and down unlike a lot of people from that position.
Speaker 1: It's like it's when you have to chip out because
Speaker 1: you're in a bad spot and you get up and
Speaker 1: down and you make a par and it feels like
Speaker 1: you made a birdie. Like those are the things that
Speaker 1: just in a competitive and championship setting are the things
Speaker 1: that just make you go because it's so mental. You
Speaker 1: have to have that positive vibe. And Rory more so
Speaker 1: than almost anybody is, like he is so easy to
Speaker 1: tell when things are going and when he's got it going,
Speaker 1: Like in a way, he's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: front runner, you know.
Speaker 2: So one of my things is we have as good
Speaker 2: a shot as ever to see a back to back winner.
Speaker 1: I have this on my list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you go back to twenty sixteen as
Speaker 2: good a chance as ever to see somebody went back
Speaker 2: to back. But you know, I mean, who better to
Speaker 2: do this than Dustin. I haven't seen it since O
Speaker 2: two with Tiger hard to do. Not a lot of
Speaker 2: back to back winners at any major championship, much less
Speaker 2: the Masters. But I feel like this is as good
Speaker 2: a chance as we're ever gonna see to see somebody
Speaker 2: do it again.
Speaker 1: Do you feel this is kind of what my note
Speaker 1: on DJ was. Do you feel in a weird way
Speaker 1: that he's like flying under the radar? Is you remember
Speaker 1: one player in the world he won, He'd won in
Speaker 1: dominant fashion, like a record and somehow, like the air,
Speaker 1: the vacuum of coverage. You've got Speith and you've got
Speaker 1: Bryson and jt Is is obviously a favorite. But like
Speaker 1: somehow DJ is not really being talked about as much
Speaker 1: as I think we should, and I don't understand, like,
Speaker 1: sure he has he didn't play well at the WGC
Speaker 1: or the Players, but you know the players. He can't
Speaker 1: hit driver a lot of places there, like it kind
Speaker 1: of mitigates the and then he didn't make it out
Speaker 1: of his pool and match play. But like, we just
Speaker 1: went through a stretch where he went from the PGA
Speaker 1: on he went T two one two, second T third,
Speaker 1: which was a win at the Tour Championship of Shadow,
Speaker 1: T third win and in the Net Division T six,
Speaker 1: T two, first T eleven, first T eight.
Speaker 2: I mean, like that, it's insane.
Speaker 1: We're like two months removed from that stretch of golf,
Speaker 1: and somehow it seems like he's kind of flying under
Speaker 1: the radar.
Speaker 2: And the best part about it is Andy is I
Speaker 2: don't think it matters either way to Dustin, right, I
Speaker 2: think there's so many players you brought up, Rory, I
Speaker 2: think that helps. I think over the last few years
Speaker 2: it was nice for Jordan Speed not to be, you know,
Speaker 2: captain feature group and to be the guy that was
Speaker 2: kind of featured in every tournament every single week. We
Speaker 2: allowed him to kind of breathe and try to figure
Speaker 2: things out on the golf course. For Dustin, I don't
Speaker 2: think it matters. I mean, I think Dustin goes about
Speaker 2: his business the same each and every week, whether it's
Speaker 2: a major championship, it's a PGA Tour event, if he's
Speaker 2: playing you know, a charity event, whatever the thing may be.
Speaker 2: I just feel like Dustin's mentality is very similar and
Speaker 2: his approach is very similar. Like Dustin's one of those
Speaker 2: guys to me, is that has figured out his process, right.
Speaker 2: I think there's so many players still searching for their process.
Speaker 2: You know, they're still searching for what's the best for
Speaker 2: me this week. I'm working on this. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: tweak this. To me, Dustin has figured out what works
Speaker 2: best for him, and you know, some week he goes
Speaker 2: out there and has a great week, and some weeks
Speaker 2: rarely he doesn't. But yes, I absolutely get that feeling
Speaker 2: of Dustin kind of flying under the radars and the
Speaker 2: defending champion. You know, he speaks today with the media,
Speaker 2: so you know, we'll get some stuff out of that
Speaker 2: as well. That you know, they obviously have the champions
Speaker 2: dinner on Tuesday nights, so we'll get stuff out of
Speaker 2: that as well. But for a guy that just won
Speaker 2: a few months ago here to kind of snag to me,
Speaker 2: the really important major championship for his career, the second one,
Speaker 2: as you said, kind of off the top to kind
Speaker 2: of open the open the floodgates, if you will, for
Speaker 2: Dustin Johnson to maybe win five or six majors in
Speaker 2: a latter part of his career. I do. I do
Speaker 2: since that he's he's not. He's a little bit of
Speaker 2: the forgotten number one.
Speaker 1: And that just like we we talked about, with two majors,
Speaker 1: get the three. Crazy when especially when you put up
Speaker 1: his his PGA tour resume, which is just astounding, his WGC,
Speaker 1: his his playoff record. I mean, he he only wins
Speaker 1: big events, and if he gets the three majors, it
Speaker 1: is a he is probably by far the greatest player
Speaker 1: of his generation. If you take ten years on either side.
Speaker 1: I know he might butt into Butte, into Tiger, but
Speaker 1: from Ricky to to Sergio Area, he's by far the best,
Speaker 1: and it's preposterous that he's Ogilvy talked about this on
Speaker 1: my pod U after the last Masters. He told a
Speaker 1: story about playing a practice round with DJ at Augusta.
Speaker 1: It was like maybe his first time out there, and
Speaker 1: he talked about how he was just he he played
Speaker 1: nine holes or I can't remember exactly how many holes
Speaker 1: and he walked off and he goes, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I just saw like the guy that's built to play
Speaker 1: at this golf course. You know, It's like he's like
Speaker 1: it just was so easy for him. And I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing is he's had just unbelievable stretch of
Speaker 1: top tens. Is he can play bad and finish six here.
Speaker 2: Again, kind of going back to what is so cool
Speaker 2: about the Masters. In terms of the players, you are
Speaker 2: a get it or don't get it player. Dustin is
Speaker 2: in that camp of get it. I mean each and
Speaker 2: every year he's going to be in contention. We know
Speaker 2: what he's done on these par fives. He you talk
Speaker 2: about Rory struggling on the par fives, you know, Dustin
Speaker 2: feasts on the par fives that Augusta he always has.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when you could bind strength and
Speaker 2: obviously incredible accuracy with the irons, that's gonna happen. But
Speaker 2: the way Dustin plays the par fives makes me think
Speaker 2: of that two thousand, two thousand and one, two thousand
Speaker 2: and two stretch for t when he played these four
Speaker 2: fives and it just seemed like you'd have ten feet
Speaker 2: for eagle each and every hole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so forty six players have three majors or more.
Speaker 1: So it gets from eighty four or eighty three to
Speaker 1: forty six, pretty good jump. It basically cuts in half
Speaker 1: every major you add that number.
Speaker 2: Andy, I I got something that's concerning as my next
Speaker 2: thing here, it's concerning as a left hander, do we
Speaker 2: have a serious lefty this year? Shot Bob Well, So
Speaker 2: you know it's I mean Phil obviously here, Mike, Mike
Speaker 2: Weir's here, Brian Harmon's in the field who's been playing great,
Speaker 2: and then Bob McIntyre as you mentioned, but we had
Speaker 2: that great run of south Pause at Augusta National, and
Speaker 2: then I'm a little concerned with the crop we have now.
Speaker 2: I mean, Phil is you never know what the heck
Speaker 2: Phil's gonna do. I mean, you know, I think Brian
Speaker 2: Harmon could could could play Augusta well. I think Bob
Speaker 2: McIntyre could play Augusta well. But gone or the days
Speaker 2: we're you know, one of the top two or three
Speaker 2: favorites was a left hander.
Speaker 1: We've got a dearth of left handed talent and the
Speaker 1: you know, I can't think of any young left handers
Speaker 1: outside of McIntyre. There's a uh, there's a really good Australian,
Speaker 1: young Australian, like a teenager who just turned pro. Elvis Smiley,
Speaker 1: who I think is a left hander. But I can't
Speaker 1: think of many high profile young Americans that are lefties.
Speaker 1: I apologize to anybody that I'm I'm disregarded here, but
Speaker 1: all the big young names are are all right handers.
Speaker 1: This is a sad day for you lefties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oksha is kind of the guy we're leaning on
Speaker 2: right now. I mean he's Aksha's got a chance right
Speaker 2: if he could find it. But uh, I mean outside
Speaker 2: of that, yeah, it's uh. We had we had a
Speaker 2: great run left He's had a great run. We lean
Speaker 2: on Bob a lot. You know, Bubba was unbelievable, and
Speaker 2: you never know right with Bubba, who knows what he
Speaker 2: could do when he shows up. But it was a stretch.
Speaker 2: I'll say that. I feel like our great stretch might
Speaker 2: might be ending.
Speaker 1: The thing too is like you would think that there'd
Speaker 1: be more of a leftis explosion because when you were
Speaker 1: growing up, left the equipment was like hard to find
Speaker 1: still and now all these kids they could get left
Speaker 1: the equipment is readily available, in some cases more available
Speaker 1: than right handed equipment and now we've got this, and
Speaker 1: where are all the lefties? It could be a great
Speaker 1: investigative journalism peace. Do you think there's something Maybe golf
Speaker 1: coaches can't coach lefties as well as righties because there
Speaker 1: are so few left handed golf coaches. Maybe this is
Speaker 1: where the deep rooted problems exist.
Speaker 2: When I was in high school, the only golf club
Speaker 2: I really wanted in my life was the titleist PT three.
Speaker 2: Would you remember that thing? I think it was the
Speaker 2: one touch. I still have one.
Speaker 1: I have one, yeah, a size of like a dime.
Speaker 2: You know that thing was tiny? Uh? And I always
Speaker 2: want to win left and I could never find it,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. So there was a kidnamed Drew Pigg
Speaker 2: who was a lefty out of the Dallas here. I
Speaker 2: think he played for one of the Plano schools. I remember,
Speaker 2: I believe he had one. And I remember I was
Speaker 2: seeing an AJG A tournament. And uh, I'm not really
Speaker 2: much of at a thief. I don't really like to
Speaker 2: consider myself someone that wants to go steal things from people.
Speaker 2: But the thought at least crossed my mind to go,
Speaker 2: you know, I could just go walk by this guy's bag,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden i'd have the PT three
Speaker 2: would have in my hands. But that was the lefty
Speaker 2: club of all the lefty clubs that I wish I
Speaker 2: would have had him in my back of my heyday.
Speaker 1: I occasionally put the PT in the bag, but I
Speaker 1: need to be in one in a groove like where
Speaker 1: I know the last few times, the last few times
Speaker 1: out I've been playing well. When you put it, when
Speaker 1: the ball's on the ground and you're hitting like a
Speaker 1: second shot out of the par five, you're just looking
Speaker 1: at and you're like, please hit this airborne. Please. I
Speaker 1: mean that is like the sides of the ball.
Speaker 2: That's the difference in so and then and then you
Speaker 2: go to the other side of it at the same
Speaker 2: the same time, right you had the title lies in
Speaker 2: the or Lamar three would come out. Lamar was incredible,
Speaker 2: paper thin, and those were awesome on the fairways. But
Speaker 2: when you had to tem up, I would always stand
Speaker 2: it over and going, don't make a dummy mark, don't
Speaker 2: make a dummy mark. Don't make a dummy mark. You know,
Speaker 2: because you had to. You had have the smallest peg
Speaker 2: in golf history, uh to peg it up with with
Speaker 2: those things. So we needed to find the great combo
Speaker 2: of those of those of those fairway woods.
Speaker 1: I will die on the hill that the sonar tech
Speaker 1: was the greatest three wood of all time, the s
Speaker 1: S O three. I played golf with somebody with one recently.
Speaker 1: I still have bene they're in the garage. I haven't
Speaker 1: used it, but somebody had one and they were they
Speaker 1: were playing with it, and I was so envious. Now
Speaker 1: that I think about it, I'm back. I might be
Speaker 1: putting it back in the bag.
Speaker 2: This what this is what people people wanted to hear.
Speaker 2: What do you have as as as one of your
Speaker 2: five things.
Speaker 1: I've got the the young crop of players, so I'm
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Sung, Jay Morikawa, Hovland, uh Nieman. All
Speaker 1: these guys. They they've now for the most part, all
Speaker 1: had one trip around Augusta, which we we know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: expectations are what they are the first year, like get it,
Speaker 1: somebody get in contention, but you know, likely winning your
Speaker 1: first time around. So slim. But we see, like we've
Speaker 1: talked about Speth, like these guys that just gravitate towards
Speaker 1: Augusta's success where they just play this golf course better
Speaker 1: than their peers. And I'm really interested to see if
Speaker 1: we start to see some trends emerge. The big one
Speaker 1: would be does sunk Jam contend again? If he does?
Speaker 1: Is he this Augusta iron man of these young you know,
Speaker 1: twenty three twenty four year olds that have kind of
Speaker 1: exploded into golf and our household names now or is
Speaker 1: it more Kaala like Morikawa seems to have all the
Speaker 1: skills that you want in terms of a a Augusta thoroughbread,
Speaker 1: you know, the iron play. Obviously, putter could be a
Speaker 1: little shaky. I think short game is kind of the
Speaker 1: underrated thing. Augusta, though, is the one. And that's where
Speaker 1: I love sucking pitching.
Speaker 2: It's pitching right. I mean, I always say, we talk
Speaker 2: so much about putting right at Augusta National, and we've
Speaker 2: seen unbelievable putters win at this golf course. But we've
Speaker 2: seen some pretty bad putters, you know, in terms of
Speaker 2: statistics in professional golf win here. I mean, you think
Speaker 2: about Adam Scott of recently, and you think about Sergio.
Speaker 1: But Sergio is a great pitcher, unbelievable, like maybe the
Speaker 1: most underrated pitcher of the golf ball of all time.
Speaker 1: Because everybody like the way he drove it, the way
Speaker 1: he hit irons was mesmerizing, but the way he pitched
Speaker 1: his short game has been so underrated for twenty years.
Speaker 2: So I want to piggyback on what you just said
Speaker 2: as one of my things, and one of my things
Speaker 2: is Justin Thomas, and it kind of plays into the
Speaker 2: same thing because Jordan Spieth maybe tainted the way we
Speaker 2: look at young players who play Augusta. I mean, we
Speaker 2: saw what Tiger did in ninety seven. Took a long
Speaker 2: time before we got another young player kind of bursting
Speaker 2: on the scene, having a chance to win his first
Speaker 2: Masters and then winning a second. Right for Justin Thomas,
Speaker 2: it's taken a little bit of time to understand Augusta,
Speaker 2: which is a natural progression. I mean that's what typically
Speaker 2: happens at this golf course. So JT at the Master's
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, T thirty ninth, twenty seventeenth, T twenty second,
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, T seventeenth, twenty nineteen, T twelve, twenty twenty fourth.
Speaker 1: Is that is that a good trend?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would say I would say it's helpful. I
Speaker 2: would say if you own stock in Justin Thomas, you're
Speaker 2: making money, life, life looks better than worse. So you know,
Speaker 2: when that's the way it's going, obviously it's a guy
Speaker 2: that's getting more comfortable and understanding the golf course. You know,
Speaker 2: maybe we play up at some places experience. I think
Speaker 2: this is one of the places where we probably don't
Speaker 2: talk about experience enough because obviously it's huge, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: understanding what to do?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Lee Westwood talked about it in his press conference, just
Speaker 2: about the experience around this place. Bryson talked about trying
Speaker 2: to get more comfortable with his iron shots, his approaches
Speaker 2: in to greens, and making sure he's in the right
Speaker 2: areas where the whole locations are going to be cut.
Speaker 2: So when you talk about experience, this is the place
Speaker 2: you've got to talk about it. For JT, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, and now he's got to finish third, second
Speaker 2: or win right to continue that upward trend. But I
Speaker 2: feel like he's in a place where that could easily happen.
Speaker 2: So for me, when you talk about these young players,
Speaker 2: sure it'd be great if Sujay went out there and
Speaker 2: won this week, And I think some Jay's gonna have
Speaker 2: an unbelievable chance at winning with the way he's played
Speaker 2: at the at Augusta Nashvillal in November, with the way
Speaker 2: he's played this year. But for a lot of guys,
Speaker 2: it's looking at what Justin Thomas has been able to
Speaker 2: do over the last few years and trying to replicate
Speaker 2: what JT has done. Let's let's improve each and every
Speaker 2: year and then we can get to a position where
Speaker 2: we have a chance to actually win this thing.
Speaker 1: With JT. Last year, I thought he played as well
Speaker 1: as DJ. It was just a few big mistakes that
Speaker 1: cost him. It was, you know, he made the double
Speaker 1: or a triple in one of the early rounds that
Speaker 1: and it's just these little things. But when you look
Speaker 1: at all of his skills, he drives it unbelievably well.
Speaker 1: His iron play is he's one of the five best
Speaker 1: players in the world with with his irons, and then
Speaker 1: he's a great he's got an unbelievable short game. Some
Speaker 1: of those shots around the greens that he hits are
Speaker 1: just outstanding. And he's got a different style, like it's
Speaker 1: not everything's not just like it doesn't seem like everything's
Speaker 1: just auto lob wedge. He hits some really crafty little
Speaker 1: bump and runs you know he has the requisite shots
Speaker 1: and the shot making ability that I think it suits
Speaker 1: so well at Augusta, and I think where the struggle
Speaker 1: has been. And I don't know if this is real
Speaker 1: or not, but when I think about players that utilize
Speaker 1: green reading books heavily, maybe highest usage on tour, he
Speaker 1: falls into the bucket. And I think that is a
Speaker 1: big deal playing golf. When you're used to playing with
Speaker 1: a green reading book and going to Augusta where they
Speaker 1: are not allowed, it takes time to learn those greens.
Speaker 1: Like then that's why maybe experience matters here more than
Speaker 1: anywhere else. Is one of the factors is like you
Speaker 1: don't get this tool that tells you contours, Like I
Speaker 1: know they're very complex to use, but you know JT.
Speaker 1: And Bryson is another guy. Bryson, you know, he's probably
Speaker 1: better at using green reading book than anybody in the
Speaker 1: world and he doesn't get to use that. And he
Speaker 1: talked about it in a I saw a clip that
Speaker 1: a follower sent from the Aussie's Fox Sports where he
Speaker 1: talked about like how it's a challenge, like I used
Speaker 1: to read greens when I was in junior golf, Like
Speaker 1: that's the last that's the last time Bryson played without
Speaker 1: green reading books junior golf except for this tournament once
Speaker 1: a year. So it's definitely And you can point to
Speaker 1: JT like where he was historically like one of the
Speaker 1: worst putters ever at Augusta his first few years out here,
Speaker 1: and and all of a sudden that's turning around. He's comfortable,
Speaker 1: and I think that's, like you said, a perfect example
Speaker 1: of the progression of a young player, and I think
Speaker 1: he will be a factor at Masters for maybe decades
Speaker 1: to come.
Speaker 2: He made he made four sixes in twenty twenty for
Speaker 2: the week, four sixes. If you remember, he bogie fifty,
Speaker 2: He bogey thirteen to one round, bogey two to one round,
Speaker 2: made a double on one in the second round. So
Speaker 2: I mean he made the numbers you can't make right.
Speaker 2: I mean this kind of goes back to things you
Speaker 2: can't do right, and you just kind of can't boge
Speaker 2: thirteen and fifteen, and you definitely can't both bogey multiple
Speaker 2: times throughout the week if you want to have a chance.
Speaker 2: That's how important those holes are, especially in a week
Speaker 2: like this where we think it's gonna play tougher, you've
Speaker 2: got to take advantage of the holes you can take
Speaker 2: advantage of, So that will be something that'll be worth watching, right,
Speaker 2: is how he's gonna get around and how he can
Speaker 2: avoid those mistakes. And also, I mean you said it,
Speaker 2: You've said it multiple times about being a great pitcher.
Speaker 2: I think Justin Thomas is an unbelievable pitcher. I don't
Speaker 2: know a guy that holds out more from off the
Speaker 2: green than JT.
Speaker 1: It's something whether you're a great ball striker like Sergio
Speaker 1: or like JT is. I think that the billity the pitching,
Speaker 1: because we don't see it that much, gets overshadowed. It's
Speaker 1: just he's so good. It's so much fun to watch
Speaker 1: him hit shots around. My last one the Ams, this
Speaker 1: is the smallest group of AMS we've had in forever.
Speaker 1: I feel like they must feel lonely. You know, they
Speaker 1: don't have and it's talk about like you don't want
Speaker 1: to finish last and Ams.
Speaker 2: There's only three of them, right, It's like it's like
Speaker 2: it's such a condensed battle for lowa Ham and being
Speaker 2: Lowham at the Masters is such a huge thing. It's
Speaker 2: such a historically huge thing. I mean, I always think
Speaker 2: about the moments in those in those you know, four
Speaker 2: day tournaments right at the Masters, and I think about
Speaker 2: the US Open, I think about the Open Championship, about
Speaker 2: being low am there and the list of the historically
Speaker 2: great players that tick that off their list. It's really
Speaker 2: hard to win US Amateurs. It's really hard to win
Speaker 2: US Junior amaters. I mean when you go through the
Speaker 2: list of the players that we talk about these days,
Speaker 2: how few of them won US Amateurs? Right, Dustin Johnson
Speaker 2: never won one, John Rahm never won one. Justin Thomas
Speaker 2: never won one. I mean kind of going down that list, right,
Speaker 2: But to be low AM is something attainable for these players,
Speaker 2: and it's something that we've seen from Nicholas and Palmer
Speaker 2: and Tiger and Phil and all of these greats, you know,
Speaker 2: speed on down the list, Bryson and so to go
Speaker 2: out there and be low AM is a stepping stone
Speaker 2: of the greats. And so when you have a small
Speaker 2: group like we do this year, it's really important to
Speaker 2: go out there and play well because again, this this
Speaker 2: means something. Low amateur means something at these huge golf events.
Speaker 1: Yeah totally, And it's just uh yeah, unique opportunity where
Speaker 1: you can easily finish last of the ams and easily
Speaker 1: finish first because there's only three of them.
Speaker 2: It's a it's wild again, I think, Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: there's so many cool traditions. Obviously to Gusta National for
Speaker 2: Masters Week, you know, the way the ams are celebrated
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite parts of it. You know,
Speaker 2: how much they're talked about, how much respect goes around
Speaker 2: with what they've been able to accomplish in their career,
Speaker 2: how much, how much how much love we give them
Speaker 2: for what they did to get here. Obviously, I'm a
Speaker 2: huge fan of amter golf and kind of getting a
Speaker 2: chance to cover those amateur events with Box and the USGA,
Speaker 2: it opened my eyes up to a world that I
Speaker 2: didn't even know existed in certain in certain parts of
Speaker 2: that and so to kind of see that celebration happen
Speaker 2: at the biggest stage in professional golf, in the biggest
Speaker 2: stage of golf is something that I really appreciated and
Speaker 2: really to come off the Augusta National Women's Amateur into
Speaker 2: Masters Week and uh and seeing the way the amateurs
Speaker 2: are treated, it's it's it's really really really special week.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, who's your pick? Who's your low MP pick?
Speaker 1: I think the you gotta go with Strafashi. He's by
Speaker 1: far the highest ranked. That said, he's coming off an injury.
Speaker 1: He heard his ribs, so he hasn't really played much golf.
Speaker 1: So that's the one, one kind of alarming thing. Who
Speaker 1: about what about you? Who's your pick to win too?
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this throughout the week. I just
Speaker 2: I love Sung Jay's chances. I and the I try
Speaker 2: not to go with a chalk pick when I do these,
Speaker 2: because picking stuff is ridiculous to begin with, especially in golf.
Speaker 2: But I try to go with somebody that's not right there.
Speaker 2: You know that that's not the top five, it's not
Speaker 2: the top eight, it's not the most obvious. I like
Speaker 2: Sung J going in. I think some Jay's got a
Speaker 2: great chance to get himself in the conversation. Again, so
Speaker 2: I think the easy picks j T or Speed or
Speaker 2: DJ or whomever. But I think Sung J is who
Speaker 2: I'm kind of circling, is who I think has the
Speaker 2: most the most likely chance to do something special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think obviously when you remove rom Deshambo, j T,
Speaker 1: DJ and Speith, then you get a little bit it
Speaker 1: opens up a little bit. You know, I probably am
Speaker 1: gonna pick one of those five, I'm still not sure
Speaker 1: who I'm gonna pick.
Speaker 2: But you're not gonna pick west Wood.
Speaker 1: No, he's broken my heart too many times here. I uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of I'm sneaky thinking he Deci's
Speaker 1: got a good, good shot, he hasn't done anything well recently.
Speaker 2: But maybe an underrated pitcher as well. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think that's kind of what we're circling at least on
Speaker 2: this podcast, is if you're gonna look at somebody to
Speaker 2: love this week, especially Andy, especially if we're gonna see
Speaker 2: it fast. I mean, if it's gonna stay like this,
Speaker 2: and I'm expecting it to stay like this, if it's
Speaker 2: gonna be firm and play, you know, really really tough
Speaker 2: Augusta National. It's gonna be so important to be able
Speaker 2: to get the ball in and around the hole when
Speaker 2: you miss greens, because you're gonna miss greens. So those
Speaker 2: are something.
Speaker 1: It's gonna magnify. It's gonna magnify hitting into the greens
Speaker 1: and then hitting around the greens.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, because you're gonna you're going to miss greens.
Speaker 1: Hey, real quick, people are gonna see hearing more of you.
Speaker 1: It's exciting. I didn't even know about this until we
Speaker 1: started recording.
Speaker 2: What's that this week?
Speaker 1: They're gonna hear more from you than just live from right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm a part of I'm a
Speaker 2: part of the Masters dot com digital coverage as well,
Speaker 2: which starts obviously on Thursday. So super pumped about that.
Speaker 2: I feel, you know, you pinch yourself sometimes when you
Speaker 2: get these opportunities, and this is obviously as as big
Speaker 2: a pinch as I've ever u I've ever done to myself,
Speaker 2: you know, getting a chance to to to be a
Speaker 2: part of that. So very honored, very excited. It's uh again,
Speaker 2: it's just it's just wild to get the opportunity to
Speaker 2: be here and and get a chance to kind of
Speaker 2: be a part of these teams. Is uh. It's such
Speaker 2: a cool thing. And you know, I I still go
Speaker 2: back to four. You know, I was a left hander
Speaker 2: in East Texas. It was Easter Sunday. We're at my
Speaker 2: aunt's lake house. We had like a I don't know
Speaker 2: what twenty inch TV in one of her bedrooms with
Speaker 2: you know, rabbit ears and Phil's gonna win his first
Speaker 2: Masters potentially, and Phil was my guy, and uh, and
Speaker 2: I mean it was the moment of all the moments
Speaker 2: as a kid, I remember that was the one that
Speaker 2: really kind of comes to mind, was was oh for
Speaker 2: Phil having that chance there and obviously pulling it off
Speaker 2: with the putter. Remember there's like fifteen of us hubbled
Speaker 2: around this very small TV watching the end of it.
Speaker 2: So to kind of be here in this capacity now again,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's pinch It's pinchworthy, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: So I'm very fired up for the week.
Speaker 1: It's uh, nothing better than getting the uh, the soothing
Speaker 1: tones of Shane Bacon's voice in your living room on
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday mornings. You know you're gonna be with
Speaker 1: us before the coverage comes on. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: a you know, Masters dot Com probably I would love
Speaker 1: to know the ratings that it would get, because I
Speaker 1: feel like everybody Thursday morning, there's no heighten, more heightened
Speaker 1: excitement about the Masters than Thursday morning, very.
Speaker 2: Very excited, excited for the week. I I'm about to
Speaker 2: go back out there in a few minutes. I take
Speaker 2: a shower and go out and uh thanks for the time,
Speaker 2: of course, of course, uh anytime, you know that. But
Speaker 2: I'm excited about it. So yeah, thanks for the time
Speaker 2: as well. I always love chatting with you. I knew
Speaker 2: you know what. We only overlap like one or two things.
Speaker 2: I was very proud of us. We did we not,
Speaker 2: by the way, we didn't bring up Brooks kept go
Speaker 2: once on this podcast, Andy, we didn't. I don't even
Speaker 2: know if we didn't know his name.
Speaker 1: He's got he's gonna have the receipts. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: getting tweets at us.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I know that's that's a great point, and it.
Speaker 1: Does seem it seems great here real quick. It seems
Speaker 1: crazy to be able the sway of golf club all
Speaker 1: out but struggle to walk well.
Speaker 2: I mean, I told you I watched that Tiger doc
Speaker 2: on HBO and they focus obviously a lot on his
Speaker 2: injuries and him being injured and playing through it. And
Speaker 2: you see him and he would literally be win seen
Speaker 2: to kind of stand up and to kind of extend
Speaker 2: the knee, and then he's hitting you know, these three
Speaker 2: woods on greens and stuff, and it's just I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's the it's accepting the pain in your brain,
Speaker 2: you know, over the golf shot going, I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: a move who cares if it hurts. I can deal
Speaker 2: with it knowing that the golf swing is such a
Speaker 2: short amount of time. But something of these guys man there,
Speaker 2: they're a different breed. To go out there with a
Speaker 2: major injury to be able to play through it is
Speaker 2: pretty crazy. And so whatever he does this week, mad
Speaker 2: respect for him to show it up. Well.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for the time, Shane, and we'll talk
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