WEBVTT - Violetta Komyshan: Ballet-Core, Color Analysis & Curating Your Life 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:03.520 Unique. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.119 Hi, and welcome to the A Girl Podcast. I'm here 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.559 with the gorgeous, stunning Violetta. Thank you so much for coming. Okay, 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.240 so I want to get into your whole story. You're 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.000 an icon, a ballerina. There's so much to you. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:21.920 What was it like growing up in New York? Wow? 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:23.680 Growing up in New York. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:28.080 I think I didn't realize how intense it was until 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.040 I actually left the city and experienced what other people's 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.280 lives look like in other places. I'm very lucky that 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.279 I've been able to travel a lot, especially with like 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.879 my job, and you know, so it was like the 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.720 grass as it was greener, right, So sometimes I see 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.519 something and I'm like, oh, I wish I had that. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:47.479 I wish I grew up like that. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:49.440 But then coming back to the city, I'm like, no, 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:50.920 but it's a unique experience. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:51.360 It does. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.000 It does strengthen you a lot. It prepares you for anything. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:01:00.200 You're not, you know, shocked by certain things. Yeah. I 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.360 don't want to say you're numb to them, but you 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.080 are sensitized for sure. Yeah, desensitized exactly. But I think 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:11.559 also more accepting of different kinds of people, different kinds 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:15.039 of culture. It really is a melting pot, like to 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:19.360 the max. And so ballet wise, like, I was so 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.480 lucky that I was able to be seen by my 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.680 first ballet school. It's called Ballet Tech, and it's this man, 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.520 Elliott Felt, who's like an icon in his own right 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.399 in the ballet world, in the dance world. He has 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.920 a school, a public ballet school that will go and 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.880 audition students throughout New York and they found me. And honestly, like, 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.480 my whole life, my whole career, everything that's been a blessing, 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.240 and like the best stuff in my life has come 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.680 from that, from that moment and that happening in my life. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:49.400 That's so amazing. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.840 When did dance become something bigger than just a hobbyer 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:54.680 activity for you? When did you know, like, this is 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:55.520 going to be my career. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:00.160 So I it was sort of around the end of 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:01.240 eighth grade. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:03.760 Was such a crazy time to be like, I know 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:04.920 what I'm going to do for my life. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.240 Yeah, how do I explain it? It's it kind of 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:13.079 just kept it was like a the momentum kept building. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.160 So it was something that I always wanted to do. 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:20.119 But again, I grew up with a single mom from Ukraine, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:24.400 who didn't really understand the ballet world. So she wasn't 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:25.959 like I'm going to send you to these schools and 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:27.880 I'm going to send you, you know, and like she 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.760 she you know, if she could make it to the show. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.120 She would come, but she was at work. 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.400 And it was something that I think I just I 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.400 loved and I you know, as as a ten year old, 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.400 as a thirteen year old, you're not like, this is 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.560 going to be my career because I didn't understand what 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:42.919 even a career meant. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:43.320 At that age. 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.360 So unfortunately I didn't have that. But it just kind 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.640 of it was almost like a blessing. It was like 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.280 sent from somewhere else where. It just kept going and going. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.160 So I graduated, I went to LaGuardia. I was one 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.120 of two kids that got in or one of three 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.960 I think that got into LaGuardia High School for perform 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.960 my arts. I went there and then I started you know, 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.760 performing and learning about performing. I started doing Martha Graham dance, 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.280 and we started to do ballet. But then we had Graham, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.960 we had hort and we had jazz, various types of 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.280 dance that then I would use later in my life 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.520 in like crazy situations like I didn't I wasn't, you know, 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.400 fully fully invested in Martha Graham and Graham Dance. But 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.320 then I did a show with the Nogucci for six 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.400 months where I was doing Graham, So I was like, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.920 thank god, you know that I have that kind of 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.000 in my back pocket. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.720 Iconic literally iconic. What did ballet teach you about discipline 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:35.440 at a young age? 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.600 Again, like you don't really as a kid understand why 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:45.880 you are this way, But I'm trying to like tune 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.880 back into the baby V. 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:51.760 I would fight. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.760 Against it a bit, to be honest. It was so structured, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.000 it was so serious. It was like, hey, you have 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.280 to lock in, start doing this, take it seriously, because 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.680 you know, you miss two classes or you kind of 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.160 slack off in one class and then the next day 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.720 your body is unhappy, you're injured, you're getting injured, or 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.640 you're you don't feel like you're on your leg. And 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.160 I think I was always sort of I was like 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.400 a bit of a rebel, but then I was also 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.360 someone that really wanted to be an overachiever, So it 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.120 would be those two sides kind of clashing. So it's like, oh, 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.560 I didn't go to class and now I'm off my 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.279 leg but I like to be like good in class, 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.080 so let me like make sure I get back into it. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.120 And it was all It was all myself. It wasn't 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.760 like my mom, my teacher, nothing. It was me being like, 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.320 I need to do this, I need to be good 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:36.560 at this. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.800 Ballet is such a beautiful world from the outside, but 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:45.039 it's like the most demanding, like you said, structured, it's 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:50.200 just an extremely difficult sport, if you will. 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.640 What do you think people misunderstand the most about it. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:05:02.480 I think they misunderstand just how difficult the industry can be, 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.920 and it is. It is so beautiful, and I think 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.120 now people are being a little more vocal about it. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.520 But there's not that many jobs, there's not that much 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:16.440 money in it, and like unfortunately that's the reality of it. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.000 So I've seen a lot of people, like dancers and 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.719 teachers start making videos about like, Okay, how do you 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.240 manage your finances as a dancer? 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.080 How do you actually properly audition? 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:30.120 And I've had older dancers and teachers say, like, you know, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.320 cattle calls auditions. I mean we are standing in line, 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.400 I have a number on here and I still do 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.200 it to this day, which you know, I'm thirty now, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.240 it's like, yeah, I still show up to these things 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.880 and say, hey, I really want this. I mean, you know, 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.080 in the Broadway and every other career people do this 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:48.160 as well. And also, the top top top dancers are 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.159 not living the lives that the top top top actors 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.960 are and top top top athletes. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:54.320 In other sports. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.479 Maybe not all sports, but yeah, we're not living those lives. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:00.720 So when you're dance and saying what does your day 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.120 to day look like? What's the day to day of 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:03.440 a New York City ballerina? 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.320 So I am freelance. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.480 I currently I have a show coming up at the 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.040 Joyce Theater in June, and actually it's an alumni show 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.200 case with my past with my first ballet school, Oh wow, 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.440 and it's called Echoes of the Studio and Deon Figgins 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.520 there's an incredible choreographer and. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.040 She used to be a dance theater of Harlem. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.320 She has taken over as an artistic director of Ballet 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.320 Tech and she's core. I mean she knows every single 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.000 kids role and every single dancers role and every single 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.000 piece choreography. It is incredible watching her do it. But 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.760 she she created this whole new piece, and it's like 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.560 younger students that kind of look up to us and 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.359 then kind of the roles reverse and we, you know, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:46.200 welcome them. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:47.480 It's very sweet. 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.720 I get very emotional during rehearsals, but so currently because 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:51.400 I'm doing those. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:52.720 I take class at ten. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.680 Am every morning, and then I usually either work out 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.800 or just do like stuff on my computer, and then 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.600 I go to rehearsals and those can go up to 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.040 three to four hours, starting at like two thirty three pm, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:08.680 and onwards. 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:09.520 You work out and dance. 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:15.040 Yes, so I'm doing rehearsals Tuesday's Thursdays, and actually as 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.760 the show approaches a little more, but on the days off, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.040 I'll try to actually go and work out. But yeah, 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.360 we combine, we combine the two. I think cross training 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.720 is so important nowadays, especially I can't even. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.240 Get to the gym, let alone do dance routines and 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.920 go to the gym. What does it take mentally for 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.880 you to succeed in such a competitive environment. 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.600 You know, you don't let the rejection get to you. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.680 You don't let you keep going. You say, oh here's 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:49.640 another whatever that's not for me, you know, rejections, redirection, 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.480 I forgot. I think it was like, who's Sabrina, Serena. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.239 Karrigan or someone. Yeah, that Serena Karragan said that. I remember, 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:01.280 and I never forgot the wise Serena. Rejection is direction. Yeah, 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.640 there's a lot of rejection and you just keep going. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.320 And you know, sometimes you're fighting against your own body 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.840 and you wake up and you're tired, or you're injured, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.920 or there's something going on, and you just take care 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.040 of yourself and take care of your body and say, hey, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:18.520 something else is coming. Staying inspired, I think seeing shows, 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.400 going to the ballet if you can, supporting dance, going 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.440 to the museum, going to an art gallery, reading books. 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.640 There's so much inspiration too, and I think it's so 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.720 important in every career, especially if you're freelance though, Like 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:32.240 stay inspired, is. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.240 That what you do to like hone your taste and 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:39.480 hone you do? Going to ballet performances and museums and. 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.679 Museums, ballet performances, and a lot of reading. I've been 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:44.600 obsessed with reading. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.360 What kind of books do you like? To fantasy? Okay, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.320 love love a lot of fantasy, Okay, love it. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:55.400 I always read non fiction and then I realize that 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.600 that's just like my type a personality, and I'm like 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.559 not getting any like inspiration or creativity out of it, 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.600 because I'm like, why did I never read fiction? I 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:07.320 only ever read biographies or autobiographies or just like tellings 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:08.200 of things that happened. 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:12.720 And I'm like, I need to get into this like fantasy. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.120 Weird, crazy world because I feel like it would be 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:15.040 good for my creativity. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.720 The right side of the book, Yeah, I think you should. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.240 What's your favorite fantasy book or a book that I 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:22.560 need to read to get into the genre. 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:27.160 I mean, you have to do a quarter of Thorne Snrosis. Okay, 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:28.720 you have to do that whole series. 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:29.120 Okay. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.080 But what happened was I started with that series and 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.440 then I was like, wait, I really like this, and 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.960 then I started I started doing like Ursula Lagean I 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:41.080 started doing I'm currently reading Wrinkle in Time. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.520 Oh yeah, it's like a classic fairy tale. I just 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.000 finished Qushell Start, which is really really good too. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:53.319 It's different and it's like Jacqueline Carry It's like older fantasy, 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.080 like from the two thousands early two thousands that just 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.560 is very beautifully written. It's like poetic but has some 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.719 topics it's not for everyone. Yeah, I don't know why. 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.319 Her favorite favorite one is. 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.120 I'll do the Court of Thornce and Roses every I 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.880 already I think, I like bought it on my iPad 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:11.280 and then it was I got one page in, it 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:12.079 was like, I don't. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.520 But I need to. I gotta. Yeah, I will do it. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:15.560 I will dive in. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.559 I think why that series is such a good one 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.359 to start with and really guess people into the series, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:26.480 into the genre is because so Sarah Mass Like I've 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.200 done a lot of research on her. She studied literature, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.040 and she read so many books, and she was obsessed 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.559 with fantasy, and I feel like she just kind of 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.480 read so much and put it into her stories that 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.520 you get a taste of like everything, okay, and then 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.880 I started to like puzzle it out and be like, Okay, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.000 now I want to read this like high fantasy, and 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.839 I want to read fairy tales, and I want to 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.200 read romanticy and I want to read, you know, dystopian 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:52.200 kind of fiction. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.720 We talk a lot on the podcast about like honing 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.440 your taste and like the things that you do to 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.199 like curate your taste. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:10:59.400 So that's a really good one. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.760 Because we get a lot of like obviously pinterest or 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.160 like old movies. But it's like the idea of reading 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.760 fantasy books to kind of like enhance your taste and 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.720 your interest in your creativity is such great advice. Do 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.439 you think that growing up in ballet shaped the way 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.840 you see beauty and femininity in your personal style? 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:18.680 Yes, so. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:25.160 Growing up in ballet shape my style because style a 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.800 lot of the times I feel like, is how you 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.120 just present yourself. Right, It's how you sit, it's how 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.600 you move, it's how it's how you wear the clothes. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:38.839 And something about ballet has I think I've realized now 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.280 like really inspired that, but more just how I feel 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:43.880 and how I wear the clothes. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.600 Like your confidence, you're you have good posture, all of that. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.040 Yeah, your posture, your confidence exactly, it's how you wear 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:51.439 the clothes. 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.600 So I think it's shaped. It's shaped that for me. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.280 And obviously, like you know, ballet core is really popular 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.960 now and I liked that how happening because I was like, 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.800 oh easy, he just pulled out my warm ups. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:05.319 Yeah, I love it. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.480 And you have a very like simplistic minimal I feel 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:12.240 like it goes with that just like very like natural beauty. Oh, 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.680 it's not a very like overly glam. You're just like 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.040 a natural easy beauty. 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:17.559 Yeah. 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:22.360 But also it's like within dance, especially being I think 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.199 any kind of athlete or someone who works out a lot, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.040 you don't really have time to go through so much 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.520 processing and you know, the hair having it perfect, like 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.400 you know, it's from a bun that you're sweating in 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.000 all day. And I have to go to an event 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.480 now or I have to go like somewhere, So it's like, okay, 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.440 how do I, you know, work with what I have 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.920 and make it effortless? Effortless Valerina, Look, I love like 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.240 my skin is still sticky for balet, but it's okay, 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:49.040 it's a glow. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.920 I love that use the glow. I love that. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.640 I love that my skin is sticky from walking up 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:55.400 and down my stairs. 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:55.960 I love that. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.599 That's so much Chaker, what parts of yourself do you 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.320 feel like dance gave you? And were there any parts 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:06.439 that you feel like you had to unlearn, like maybe 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.720 bad habits that you got into because of it. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:09.520 Because of that? 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:16.480 What parts it has given me? I mean, I guess 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.120 we mentioned it earlier. Really good posture and being aware 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:25.160 of that there's also like a there's also a side 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:29.240 of dancers where we're very when we were in school, 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.640 when we were young, we because dance is from like 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:38.680 these old French courts and royal societies, Like there is 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.640 a whole side of it where you do have to 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.920 be very like gracious and grateful, and you know, after 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.400 every class, no matter where you are, what school, like, 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.720 we bow to the teachers and to the pianist. And 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.000 that's something that I just as a kid, I was like, yeah, 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.600 I've been bowing since I was nine years old to 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.520 the people in the room. So I think that you 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.640 carry on into life and I like it. I think 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.800 that saying thank you and being respectful exactly is some 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.280 like an art that I think we should nurture for 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:17.719 our future generations and then unlearn. Unlearn well, just being 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.760 judgmental with yourself, I think looking in a mirror and 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.960 judging yourself and comparing yourself to other people, it's really unhealthy, 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.880 and I think it's just kind of it's a part 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:28.640 of it, right. 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:30.480 I can't say it's all. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.440 Bad because you do say, hey, okay, like my arm 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.560 doesn't look right, my like the line is not good 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.880 in this pose, let me fix it, But then like 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.840 you start to go a little further and you know, 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:43.360 depress yourself. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:44.960 So I think that's. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.200 Something as I've gotten older, I'm like, no, let me 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.920 work with what I have instead of try to change it. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.800 Or wish it was different. Yeah, I feel like that's probably. 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.640 I mean, I feel like I've never been a ballerina, 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.360 but I can only imagine how much you have to 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.760 do comparing yourself to other people's, especially like you said, 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.960 like doing auditions and cattle calls and just being like 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:03.920 one of one. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.480 Hundred and all of that. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.560 But I feel like you're very strong and you're very confident, 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.600 and so I feel like you have a good navigation 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.680 of that. And we get asked a lot on the podcast, 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.120 like what do you do for confidence? What's your confidence advice? 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:17.560 Everything? 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:18.960 So I feel like you're a good person to talk 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:23.080 to about it, because what a challenging environment. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.000 To be and especially to grow up in as like 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:25.640 a young girl. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.440 I feel like it could really recavoc on you if 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.960 you don't have like a good head on your shoulders exactly. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.240 It took a really long time to get there. I 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.240 will say, like I was not born this way on 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.440 one hundred percent. I was very shy, shy in front 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.640 of cameras, shy in front of teachers, like auditions. But 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.880 I think it took time to grow it and it's 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.640 it is more about this like knowing of yourself. 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:48.640 I mean again, I'm. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.560 Thirty years old, so it took me probably all of 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.520 my twenties to finally get there. And I'm I'm still growing, 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.040 I'm still working on and I'm still learning. But there 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:58.920 is a side of it of like who am I 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.240 How do I stay authent dick to myself? I actually 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.560 recently discovered this, but I'm like, if you are changing 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.720 the way that you dress for any person or for anything, 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.360 you know you have this like innate style. 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:10.880 You have this. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.400 Obviously everyone's is growing, but if you're changing to try 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.720 to fit in somewhere, it's probably not the right room. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.680 It's probably the right not the right people. It's you know, 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:22.920 you have to you have to be authentic and you 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.920 have to be yourself honestly, funny enough color analysis. I 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.080 know it's like a craze right now. I did it 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:30.520 this woman, Julia. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:31.200 I think it's dope. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:35.440 Keina did mine and changed my life changed. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:37.360 I keep telling me, I need to do it, So 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:38.680 I need to do it. Do it. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.560 It will because it also just makes shopping easier, everything easier. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.440 And right now there's like such a there's so much 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.160 and you know, I can't wear orange, and I'm like, 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.640 that's okay. I see someone wearing orange and I'm like, oh, 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.040 I wish I can orange, but I can't. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.680 They tell you, they like tell you exactly what colors 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.480 look good and then which ones you should never wear. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.000 Yes, but you can also see it. It's like, yeah, 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.160 you hold it up in front of your face. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:16:59.920 You look sick. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.760 Yeah, it's not like bringing out your eyes, bringing out 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.960 your features or something overpowers you, which I think actually strategically, 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.000 if there's a day when you're like I don't really 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:14.119 want to be too forward, like let me put something 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.520 on that kind of overpowers me but takes the attention, 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.280 and that's okay. You know you can strategically use it too, 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.200 But yeah, it changes. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.879 Okay, you're the millionth person to suggest color analysis to me, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:24.879 so I'm going to hop on it. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.440 And it's not just like one color, no color. It's 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.200 like they give you a whole bunch of colors. 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.280 And did you go to her I did it online. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:37.399 Okay, cool, and she she'll like hold like no makeup nothing, 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.640 she holds up these things and I've taken what she said, 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.240 which I'm a deep winter spot on. 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.359 Okay, I need to do this. Okay, I like this. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:46.320 I really am going to do this. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.680 How would you describe your personal style right now? 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:03.640 Right now? 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:10.920 It is actually quite minimal and minimal in the sense 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:16.840 that I've love I still love wearing flowery and dazzles 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.720 and whatever, and like leathers and shiny and those like 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.880 fun patterns. I mean, not too many patterns, but some 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.640 patterns like the jack and I wore today has patterned, 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.160 but a lot of just pieces that I keep rewaring, 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:38.800 so Wolford body suits, leathers, wolves, nice fabrics. Minimal, Yeah, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.199 like less stuff. My closet is not that big, so 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.440 I was like, there's too much stuff in here. Let's 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:47.680 like really, But I think also curating it the way 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.320 that I've done has made again life so much easier. 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.720 I was going to ask you if you approach dressing 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.800 differently now than you did a few years ago or 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.080 in your early twenties, would you say that, like downsizing 0:18:59.200 --> 0:18:59.920 is the biggest thing. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.400 Yeah, for sure, I think downsizing. 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:04.200 I think. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.119 Again, like finding out color analysis, finding out authentically what 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.000