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Speaker 1: Unique.

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Speaker 2: Hi, and welcome to the A Girl Podcast. I'm here

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Speaker 2: with the gorgeous, stunning Violetta. Thank you so much for coming. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I want to get into your whole story. You're

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Speaker 2: an icon, a ballerina. There's so much to you.

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Speaker 3: What was it like growing up in New York? Wow?

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Speaker 3: Growing up in New York.

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Speaker 1: I think I didn't realize how intense it was until

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Speaker 1: I actually left the city and experienced what other people's

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Speaker 1: lives look like in other places. I'm very lucky that

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Speaker 1: I've been able to travel a lot, especially with like

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Speaker 1: my job, and you know, so it was like the

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Speaker 1: grass as it was greener, right, So sometimes I see

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Speaker 1: something and I'm like, oh, I wish I had that.

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Speaker 3: I wish I grew up like that.

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Speaker 1: But then coming back to the city, I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: but it's a unique experience.

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 1: It does strengthen you a lot. It prepares you for anything.

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Speaker 1: You're not, you know, shocked by certain things. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say you're numb to them, but you

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Speaker 1: are sensitized for sure. Yeah, desensitized exactly. But I think

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Speaker 1: also more accepting of different kinds of people, different kinds

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Speaker 1: of culture. It really is a melting pot, like to

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Speaker 1: the max. And so ballet wise, like, I was so

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Speaker 1: lucky that I was able to be seen by my

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Speaker 1: first ballet school. It's called Ballet Tech, and it's this man,

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Speaker 1: Elliott Felt, who's like an icon in his own right

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Speaker 1: in the ballet world, in the dance world. He has

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Speaker 1: a school, a public ballet school that will go and

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Speaker 1: audition students throughout New York and they found me. And honestly, like,

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Speaker 1: my whole life, my whole career, everything that's been a blessing,

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Speaker 1: and like the best stuff in my life has come

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Speaker 1: from that, from that moment and that happening in my life.

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Speaker 3: That's so amazing.

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Speaker 2: When did dance become something bigger than just a hobbyer

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Speaker 2: activity for you? When did you know, like, this is

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Speaker 2: going to be my career.

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Speaker 1: So I it was sort of around the end of

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Speaker 3: Was such a crazy time to be like, I know

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Speaker 3: what I'm going to do for my life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how do I explain it? It's it kind of

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Speaker 1: just kept it was like a the momentum kept building.

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Speaker 3: So it was something that I always wanted to do.

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Speaker 1: But again, I grew up with a single mom from Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: who didn't really understand the ballet world. So she wasn't

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Speaker 1: like I'm going to send you to these schools and

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Speaker 3: She would come, but she was at work.

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Speaker 1: And it was something that I think I just I

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Speaker 1: loved and I you know, as as a ten year old,

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Speaker 1: as a thirteen year old, you're not like, this is

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Speaker 3: At that age.

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Speaker 1: So unfortunately I didn't have that. But it just kind

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Speaker 1: sent from somewhere else where. It just kept going and going.

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Speaker 1: So I graduated, I went to LaGuardia. I was one

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Speaker 1: I think that got into LaGuardia High School for perform

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Speaker 1: my arts. I went there and then I started you know,

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Speaker 1: performing and learning about performing. I started doing Martha Graham dance,

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Speaker 1: and we started to do ballet. But then we had Graham,

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Speaker 1: we had hort and we had jazz, various types of

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Speaker 1: in like crazy situations like I didn't I wasn't, you know,

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Speaker 1: fully fully invested in Martha Graham and Graham Dance. But

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Speaker 2: Iconic literally iconic. What did ballet teach you about discipline

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Speaker 1: Again, like you don't really as a kid understand why

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Speaker 3: I would fight.

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Speaker 1: Against it a bit, to be honest. It was so structured,

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Speaker 1: it was so serious. It was like, hey, you have

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Speaker 1: And it was all It was all myself. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: like my mom, my teacher, nothing. It was me being like,

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Speaker 1: I need to do this, I need to be good

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Speaker 2: Ballet is such a beautiful world from the outside, but

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Speaker 2: it's like the most demanding, like you said, structured, it's

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Speaker 2: just an extremely difficult sport, if you will.

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Speaker 3: What do you think people misunderstand the most about it.

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Speaker 1: I think they misunderstand just how difficult the industry can be,

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Speaker 1: and it is. It is so beautiful, and I think

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Speaker 1: But there's not that many jobs, there's not that much

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Speaker 1: So I've seen a lot of people, like dancers and

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Speaker 3: How do you actually properly audition?

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Speaker 1: And I've had older dancers and teachers say, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: cattle calls auditions. I mean we are standing in line,

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Speaker 1: I have a number on here and I still do

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Speaker 1: it to this day, which you know, I'm thirty now,

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I still show up to these things

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, I really want this. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the Broadway and every other career people do this

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Speaker 1: as well. And also, the top top top dancers are

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Speaker 1: not living the lives that the top top top actors

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Speaker 3: In other sports.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not all sports, but yeah, we're not living those lives.

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Speaker 1: So when you're dance and saying what does your day

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Speaker 3: So I am freelance.

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Speaker 1: I currently I have a show coming up at the

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Speaker 1: Joyce Theater in June, and actually it's an alumni show

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Speaker 1: case with my past with my first ballet school, Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: and it's called Echoes of the Studio and Deon Figgins

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Speaker 3: She used to be a dance theater of Harlem.

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Speaker 1: She has taken over as an artistic director of Ballet

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Speaker 1: Tech and she's core. I mean she knows every single

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Speaker 1: piece choreography. It is incredible watching her do it. But

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Speaker 1: younger students that kind of look up to us and

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Speaker 1: then kind of the roles reverse and we, you know,

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Speaker 3: It's very sweet.

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Speaker 1: I get very emotional during rehearsals, but so currently because

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Speaker 3: I take class at ten.

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Speaker 1: Am every morning, and then I usually either work out

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Speaker 1: I go to rehearsals and those can go up to

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Speaker 3: You work out and dance.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so I'm doing rehearsals Tuesday's Thursdays, and actually as

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Speaker 1: the show approaches a little more, but on the days off,

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Speaker 1: I'll try to actually go and work out. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we combine, we combine the two. I think cross training

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Speaker 2: Get to the gym, let alone do dance routines and

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Speaker 2: go to the gym. What does it take mentally for

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't let the rejection get to you.

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Speaker 1: You don't let you keep going. You say, oh here's

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Speaker 1: another whatever that's not for me, you know, rejections, redirection,

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Speaker 1: I forgot. I think it was like, who's Sabrina, Serena.

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Speaker 3: Karrigan or someone. Yeah, that Serena Karragan said that. I remember,

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Speaker 3: and I never forgot the wise Serena. Rejection is direction. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of rejection and you just keep going.

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Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes you're fighting against your own body

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Speaker 1: something else is coming. Staying inspired, I think seeing shows,

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Speaker 1: There's so much inspiration too, and I think it's so

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Speaker 1: important in every career, especially if you're freelance though, Like

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Speaker 2: That what you do to like hone your taste and

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Speaker 2: hone you do? Going to ballet performances and museums and.

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Speaker 1: Museums, ballet performances, and a lot of reading. I've been

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Speaker 3: What kind of books do you like? To fantasy? Okay,

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Speaker 3: love love a lot of fantasy, Okay, love it.

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Speaker 2: I always read non fiction and then I realize that

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Speaker 2: not getting any like inspiration or creativity out of it,

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Speaker 2: because I'm like, why did I never read fiction? I

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, I need to get into this like fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Weird, crazy world because I feel like it would be

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Speaker 3: The right side of the book, Yeah, I think you should.

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite fantasy book or a book that I

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Speaker 2: need to read to get into the genre.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have to do a quarter of Thorne Snrosis. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you have to do that whole series.

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Speaker 1: But what happened was I started with that series and

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Speaker 1: then I started I started doing like Ursula Lagean I

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Speaker 1: started doing I'm currently reading Wrinkle in Time.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's like a classic fairy tale. I just

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Speaker 3: finished Qushell Start, which is really really good too.

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Speaker 1: It's different and it's like Jacqueline Carry It's like older fantasy,

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Speaker 1: like from the two thousands early two thousands that just

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Speaker 1: is very beautifully written. It's like poetic but has some

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Speaker 1: topics it's not for everyone. Yeah, I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Her favorite favorite one is.

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Speaker 2: I'll do the Court of Thornce and Roses every I

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Speaker 2: already I think, I like bought it on my iPad

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Speaker 3: But I need to. I gotta. Yeah, I will do it.

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Speaker 3: I will dive in.

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Speaker 1: I think why that series is such a good one

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Speaker 1: into the genre is because so Sarah Mass Like I've

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Speaker 1: done a lot of research on her. She studied literature,

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Speaker 2: It's just how did you how do you approach dressing

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Speaker 1: But that's also what's really fun about fashion is you

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Speaker 2: It's fun to play with what makes something instantly chic

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Speaker 2: it's just such bad fabric. The things from the nineties

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00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 2: are so much better made.

442
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 3: My friend wore this.

443
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: Funny enough, I'm actually wearing a Ann Taylor skirt. I

444
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: got on, like this leather like midi skirt I got

445
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: on I think Poshmark for twenty five dollars or just

446
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: like and my friend had worn this Ann Taylor vintages

447
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,719
Speaker 1: was her mom's like bomber, and I was like, what

448
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 1: is that? She sicks Ann Taylor from the nineties and

449
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: I immediately went on online. I mean, I'm worried now

450
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: because everyone's gonna buy it all.

451
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, no nineties and tailor is very underrated and

452
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 2: CD perfect contemporary pieces and it's like a Ritzia Vibes

453
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: but cheaper because it's so old and but it achieves

454
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 2: the same look. Yeah, the skirt is I guarantee that

455
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 2: skirt would be Threraanngellars at a Ritzya. I have one

456
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: hundred percent no and to old school and Taylor and

457
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 2: old Banana Republic.

458
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 3: Very she very well made, Okay, I didn't know very

459
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Speaker 3: well made.

460
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 2: What is your relationship with beauty and self care like

461
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 2: these days?

462
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: What's your routine? What are you doing? Do you feel

463
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: like it's changed a lot?

464
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: So I have finally figured out my routine. It's very simple,

465
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 1: but it's a toner every night, every day. I always

466
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 1: do you know what toner it is?

467
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: Beolare okay? Chic?

468
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: Chic? They actually they send it to me in like

469
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: a as a gift, and I used it and I was.

470
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: Now it's just like big bottle re buy every single

471
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 1: time it runs out. It really cleans the skin well.

472
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: And like again I really struggled with like acne in

473
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: these areas, and then also with that clean your brushes.

474
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: Change your cases very important, you know, if you have,

475
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: like any body stuff like change your shirts every night

476
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: every day if you can, Like you know, some people

477
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: will sleep in pajamas a few times, but like try

478
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: to change it every night.

479
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: And then what else?

480
00:22:55,040 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: And then like serums moist up very simple, honestly, a

481
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: toner serum, moisturizer, I cream. Where do you go to

482
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: for beauty inspiration, like for makeup and that kind of vibe?

483
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: Good question to be honest, I kind of create it myself.

484
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 3: That your own inspiration.

485
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will play around with beauty. I've finally learned

486
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: what I like with my eyes, Like I can't do

487
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: a full eyeliner, I have to I always just kind

488
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: of do these corners because I've got like hooded eyes. Again,

489
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: finding but also actually looking online and seeing creators who

490
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: look like you have similar eyes, similar coloring, similar color analysis.

491
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: Game changer truly, and I actually have been doing a

492
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: lot of like upper water line with like Chanelle has

493
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: these like waterproof eyeliners, and I'll use like stick eyeliner.

494
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: I'll use it.

495
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: I'll do deep purple, deep blue, deep green, and it

496
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: creates this like amazing effect in the eye, and then

497
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: like regular mascara and stuff.

498
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: I feel like it's really good advice to find people

499
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: that look like you. That's like the ultimate beauty advice.

500
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: And my I was talking to my hairstyles about this

501
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: because she was like, people come in and they show

502
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: me haircuts that they want and I'm like, you don't

503
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: look like Cianna Miller.

504
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 3: That's not going to look like that on you. Like,

505
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: it's just not gonna look like that on you.

506
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: And I feel like makeup two is so personal that

507
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: you literally, like you said, you have to look at

508
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: people who are the same coloring as you, the same

509
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: face shape as you, the same vibe as you. That's

510
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: what it's gonna look like. If you try to emanate

511
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: someone else's face, it's just not going to look right

512
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: on you.

513
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: So it's fantastic beauty advice.

514
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 2: I literally was just having this conversation the other day

515
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: and I was like, is that me talking about how

516
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: I want bangs? Because I was talking to my hairsuns

517
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: about and she was like, you don't look like that.

518
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool, okay, great.

519
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: Well I could see you with a bang like a

520
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: high bank. Look at your beautiful banks. I want bangs.

521
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 2: But she was like absolutely not, Oh no, no.

522
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 3: Every time I get them, I regret them. But I

523
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: feel like you have wispy bangs. Mind just kind of

524
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: like you have the hair for it. But it's a process.

525
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: You also have to I always like have to wet

526
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: this area because they will display.

527
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's very like.

528
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: If you actually look, it's very it's just like a

529
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: little triangle.

530
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: It's a perfect bang. I'm just afraid.

531
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: I'm like, I just they look like this because my

532
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: hair is so straight, and I'm just.

533
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: Like, oh I see, I see, well I blow it

534
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: out every day, but yeah, it's it's you.

535
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: Also, I look a little bit like a child with bangs.

536
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 3: You don't.

537
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 2: It's just it's every time I get them, I immediately

538
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: start clipping them back. But I was like, I feel

539
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: like I'm older now I could pull off bangs. And

540
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: she was like, you really simply can't. You're and I

541
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: like she was showing her inswel pictures and she was like,

542
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: do you think you look like her? And no, I

543
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: guess I don't feel like I'm Heidi Clum. Literally, I'm like,

544
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 2: are you saying I don't look exactly? Is there anything

545
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: that people assume about you that you think is completely

546
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: inaccurate or do you feel like people have your vibe

547
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: from being online?

548
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: I have seen some stuff about me being like they're like,

549
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: she's like this rich girl, and which is again no

550
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: hate on those people, but like it's so far from

551
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: the truth. That's like, I did not come from money.

552
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: I was not.

553
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, unfortunately I wish I did. I know it was

554
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: not the same way.

555
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: Not the reality in my life.

556
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: So not a NEPO baby. And I don't want to

557
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: say NEPO baby because I'm jealous.

558
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: I wish I was Aphoby too. I say that jealous.

559
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 3: You say that all the time.

560
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: I'm like you, I wish to my parents, I'm like,

561
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: what were you doing?

562
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 3: What were you doing? What were you doing with your time?

563
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, we could have been accumulating money, fame, well, success,

564
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: all of these things that you could have just given

565
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: to me.

566
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: But also like the knowledge, you know, I'm like I

567
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: love I love those people that actually do what their

568
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: parents do and do it really well because I'm like,

569
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: of course, like your parents taught you that. Can you

570
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: imagine being around that, Like I wish my mom was

571
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: like a principal ballerina from back in the day.

572
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: Like I feel like it would have probably.

573
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: Helped me a lot in my life to know those things. So,

574
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: but no, I think that, and then I think that's

575
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: about it. You know, there's it's it's mainly like I'll

576
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: see that sometimes online and I'm just like.

577
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: I feel like the it's a good thing for you

578
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: to correct because I feel like you deserve credit for

579
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: your hard work, like you deserve to be known for

580
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: what you did, and so I feel like that's important

581
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: that you say, no, actually, that's not where I came from.

582
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 3: That's not what I did.

583
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: I worked really hard and being like especially being a

584
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: palerine like that is a tough, tough, competitive thing. So

585
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 2: to be successful at that, you deserve to get to

586
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: say like, nobody handed this to me.

587
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it was.

588
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: Incredibly hard, a lot of work, and it still is.

589
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: It's not it doesn't really get hasier, it gets harder.

590
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it probably gets harder as you

591
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: be older. I can only imagine.

592
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've become more private as you've

593
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: gotten older. Is that something that you've prioritized.

594
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: Yes. Absolutely.

595
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: You don't realize how sacred privacy is until.

596
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 3: I don't know.

597
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I've had some stuff in my life obviously

598
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: where just stuff I didn't really realize I didn't want known.

599
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: And also, you know what, so I want to say,

600
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: like we grew up in a time where everything changed, right.

601
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: It was that sort of shift from my space, Facebook

602
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: into like Instagram, and then it became very popular to

603
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: really share your least.

604
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: Show every single detail with no limits, and everybody was

605
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: doing it and no one knew what the consequences were

606
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: going to be, and like the.

607
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: Way that we were posting, and I feel like I

608
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: was like kind of like posting things that I look

609
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: back at, I'm like, what was I think? And it's

610
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: it's a bit annoying that, you know, you it be

611
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: it started at that age because then I feel like nowadays,

612
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: if I had if social media had started, I would

613
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: not be posting the things that I was posting or

614
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: like sharing on the internet. But again, it was it

615
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: was like the time, right, Yeah.

616
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: I do not think I should have had an Instagram

617
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: or Facebook at like sixteen, Like I just didn't know

618
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: my space. I just didn't know the consequences of Like, yeah,

619
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: you don't. You're not developed yet, You're not the person

620
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: you want to present to the world. And then you

621
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 2: realize you're presenting yourself to every potential employer and friend

622
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: and everything.

623
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: Like that, And like you said, I think.

624
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: We're learning now the repercussions of being a public figure

625
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: of like what happens when you show everything and the

626
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: way people feel like I don't know if this happens

627
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: to you, but people feeling like they know you, yes,

628
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: and that has been strudging you, and like feeling like

629
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: they truly know your personality and they truly know how

630
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: you would act in a situation.

631
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: It's just like you have never been in the same

632
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: room as me, you don't know me. It's very it's

633
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: very interesting.

634
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: But it's also I don't think it comes from a

635
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: horrible place on their side either. It's just like they

636
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: want to almost know you, they want to be your friend,

637
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: They feel close to you for some reason.

638
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: So it's like I can't hate on that either. But

639
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: it's it it.

640
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think privacy is sacred.

641
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: And but also you know, I would love I love.

642
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: Showcasing ballet, I love showcasing interests, talking about books, talking

643
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: about fashion like that is so fun for me, and

644
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: I think that's what people nowadays like everyone wants someone

645
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: that kind of helps them be better, right, and so

646
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: that gladly you know. But like relationships, yeah, unless it's

647
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: like very relatable, unless it's like very relatable for someone

648
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: to certain things that I don't think need to be shared.

649
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 3: I agree.

650
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 2: I feel like too, I've started to realize that like

651
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: the evil eye is real and like people root against you,

652
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: so like talking too much about like things that haven't

653
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: happened yet or like things that you want, it can

654
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: be like karmically bad. This is something someone told me

655
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: and I was like, wait, I'm aligned with this. You

656
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: have to like protect what's sacred to you because the

657
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: unfortunate thing is, yes, there's like the people who think

658
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: you're friends with them, I think are great and I

659
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: think it's a whole new kind of relationship that just

660
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: like technology has led to it's like people that have

661
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Speaker 2: a relationship with you that have never met you. And

662
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Speaker 2: for the most part, I'd say, like ninety percent are good.

663
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Speaker 2: But then there's also like you want to protect yourself

664
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Speaker 2: from people who don't wish you well, and so like

665
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Speaker 2: if you show things that haven't happened or haven't come

666
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: to fruition, or like you talk a lot about something

667
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: you want, people start rooting against you and they like,

668
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Speaker 2: they just don't don't have your best interest. So you

669
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Speaker 2: have to hold those things until you're ready to share them.

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Speaker 1: I think that is exactly what you're saying.

671
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Speaker 3: Now.

672
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Speaker 1: I've realized with a lot of friends, like I don't

673
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: really have that many friends. I have close knit group

674
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: of people that usually I met either through dance or

675
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: maybe even like work, and those are and then like

676
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: as a kid, obviously I had a few friends, but

677
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: it's it's not the same group that it used to be.

678
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Speaker 1: And I just I started notice it's important that they.

679
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Speaker 2: Don't wish you well, like they're not even if it's

680
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: not conscious, it's like you're you don't have my best

681
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: feels at heart. Yeah, there's like an innate feeling, you know,

682
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's more important too as you

683
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: get older, is like the right people like you said,

684
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Speaker 2: make sure you're in the right room.

685
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Speaker 3: If you feel like you have to change yourself, you're

686
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Speaker 3: in the wrong room.

687
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Speaker 1: I also remember seeing something where they said, like the

688
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Speaker 1: twenties was your yes era, and then the thirties becomes

689
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Speaker 1: your you become a no person.

690
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: Oh I'm a no person now, Yeah.

691
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Speaker 1: And you start to just say no to things and

692
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: know to people and really really curate your life and

693
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: make it exactly what you care about and want it

694
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Speaker 1: to be.

695
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: And you only have like.

696
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Speaker 2: A finite amount of time. Like, I'm if I don't

697
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: want to go, I'm not gonna go, just say no.

698
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, I said no because I didn't want to.

699
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Speaker 3: And everyone's like, but you never come, and I'm like,

700
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Speaker 3: I don't want to. Yeah, I don't want to. It's

701
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Speaker 3: my time. I don't want to.

702
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to be around those people. I don't

703
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: like the way those people make me feel. And I

704
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: agree completely. I've totally shifted from twenties. I wanted to

705
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: be invited everywhere and go to everything and be at

706
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: every event and meet every person and be like the

707
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Speaker 2: most front facing in the world.

708
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, ninety percent of the time, it's gonna

709
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Speaker 3: be a no. Yeah, it's gonna be ano. You want peace.

710
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Speaker 2: Peace, That is a diet peace, content comfortable, just like

711
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: what makes me happy, And I feel like if everybody

712
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: did that, we'd be in such a happier place. How

713
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Speaker 2: do you stay grounded in an industry where your appearance

714
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: is constantly analyzed because you're both a content creator and

715
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Speaker 2: a ballerina, so both of those are really physical.

716
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Speaker 1: Appearance grounded appearance wise, such a good question. I have

717
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: realized more and more that yes, that is judged, and

718
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Speaker 1: that is sort of important, but it's not the number

719
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Speaker 1: one thing. It is not like the number one thing

720
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Speaker 1: that matters is this and this. You know, it's how

721
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Speaker 1: you make people feel, It's how hard you work, it's

722
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Speaker 1: how you speak, it's how you care about things. Like

723
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Speaker 1: I think appearance is it doesn't matter as much. I

724
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Speaker 1: don't know that might be the wrong answer, but again

725
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Speaker 1: it's weird for me to say, because I am also

726
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Speaker 1: ballery done.

727
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Speaker 3: Yes, your body matters, but it's.

728
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Speaker 1: It's your talent. And actually I would say ballet is

729
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Speaker 1: now shifting into that.

730
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Speaker 3: More than ever.

731
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: Where you know, you see people with all kinds of bodies,

732
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Speaker 1: all kinds of skin tones, all kinds of hair and

733
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Speaker 1: face and eyes and whatever, succeeding and doing really well

734
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: and getting to dance and getting to perform, and you know,

735
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Speaker 1: having followings and a presence online, and so I think,

736
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Speaker 1: but from their talent. A lot of the times nowadays,

737
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: it's a lot about how many turns can you do,

738
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Speaker 1: how well can you jump? How well? Like I love

739
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: it when I see someone who's super talented getting recognized

740
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: for how well they dance as opposed to anything else.

741
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Speaker 1: And know, what makes you feel good? What makes me

742
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Speaker 1: feel good every day? And then that's how I show up?

743
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Speaker 1: So I love that.

744
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Speaker 2: What makes you feel calm? We were saying, both of

745
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: us just want to feel.

746
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Speaker 3: Calm, And it's like I'm in my heece peace and.

747
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: Calm era for sure. What helps you feel calm when

748
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: life feels overwhelming. What are some things you do for yourself?

749
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: I read a lot great advice.

750
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Speaker 1: I probably escape into fantasy, which is my way of

751
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: dealing with it. I think ballets very meditative. So I

752
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: love taking class every day just to like get away

753
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: from my get away from your phone, get away from

754
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: social media, get away from comparing yourself to people. I

755
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: love social media more than anything I do. But I

756
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: think it's not healthy when you become addicted to it,

757
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: and it doesn't really make you feel good.

758
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: So I love it too, but it is it. I

759
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: love it. I could sit on it all day, I

760
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: could sit on TikTok all day. I could say it.

761
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: I feel constantly inspired and this and that, but it

762
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: does take something away from you, and it really does

763
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Speaker 2: like rattle you a little bit.

764
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Too much of something good is also not great. Yeah. Yeah,

765
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Speaker 3: And like we you know, we're in it.

766
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Speaker 1: We are living in a day and age where like

767
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: you can see anything, you can get inspired by anything.

768
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: There's so much online, but sometimes.

769
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Speaker 3: I think it's too much. Yeah, so take.

770
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 1: Time away from that as best as you can. And yeah,

771
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: to be more in person, be more present in your life.

772
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Speaker 2: I I was just talking to Olivia about how my

773
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: therapist is always talking about embodied meant She's like, the

774
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: most important thing is you have to be embodied. You

775
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: have to be in your body. And she's like, are

776
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: you in your body? If you're and when you're sitting

777
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: on your phone, you're not you did you are in

778
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: another world? Like do you feel your body?

779
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: Are you? Are you sitting with yourself? And I'm like no,

780
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: I don't want to say with myself, and.

781
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 2: She's like, you have to learn to sit with yourself.

782
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: And that's like reading is a great thing to do too,

783
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: because you're you're in with yourself. What are you prioritizing

784
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: most in this chapter of your life?

785
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: I think doing more collaborative projects, working with Ballet Tech

786
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: and Dean Figgins and having her choreograph something specifically for me,

787
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: maybe like partnerships with people, trying to create stuff. And

788
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean I did like a I went to the

789
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: dance theater Parlem gala and I did commentating, which is

790
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: kind of what you do, and I had so much

791
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: fun doing it, and I was like, Okay, I get

792
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 1: to speak to these people that actually, you know, want

793
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: to speak to me about something I really love and

794
00:36:54,719 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: so that was really special. And and just reading a lot.

795
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: I started this like fun account called the Swan Library

796
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: and it's just me talking about books and it's got

797
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: like no followers, but I'm going to go follow no,

798
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: but it's got like it's like people that actually love

799
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: that you have.

800
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Speaker 2: A substack, not yeah you need a subject, you have

801
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: a book substack. The people I literally preach about subsseec

802
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 2: you'd think they pay me. I The best thing about

803
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: it that I always say is the people that are

804
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: on there want to be on there, and the people

805
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: that are reading your stuff want to be reading your stuff,

806
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: and they're very well read.

807
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: Like if you write a novel, they're going to read it.

808
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: Okay, like it's it is well read people who are interested.

809
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: I guarantee if you had one that was just about books,

810
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: it would be wildly popular.

811
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: There are people who love to read today.

812
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: You have to you have to make one for your account,

813
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: so then you can for people to your Instagram for

814
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: your Swan library and you could have it go to

815
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: your subst I swear it will pop off, and you

816
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: can have like paid content if you want to, Like

817
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: it's another way to make money.

818
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: But I don't do a ton of paid content.

819
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: Because I'm kind of like, you're alreadyquick commission link, Like

820
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: I can just give this to you. But there's it's

821
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: amazing and I think you would love it, and you

822
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: can write like think pieces. The people there want to

823
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: be there, and that's my favorite thing compared to Instagram

824
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: and TikTok is. People on Instagram that write mean stuff.

825
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't follow me you didn't want to

826
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: see me.

827
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 3: It got given to you on sub stack.

828
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: You literally see what you want to see, and people

829
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: want your newsletter and they want to hear what you

830
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: have to say. I think it would be wildly popular

831
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: because people are always asking me for reading recommendations. Yeah,

832
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: and I'm don't have any because I'm like, I read

833
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: self help books about heartbreak and says trauma.

834
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: We need those too. I read Robbins.

835
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hello, what what are you most excited about in

836
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: the next phase.

837
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 3: Of your life?

838
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: I guess I mean I kind of answered it, but yeah,

839
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: doing more projects, doing more collaborative projects, and also honestly

840
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: growing on passions. What are my passions. It's reading, it's writing,

841
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: it's it's traveling, it's all kinds of dance, it's just

842
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: it's fashion, it's just everything. Like trying to expand on

843
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: all that, and I think also do something that comes

844
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: from me so that people can relate to.

845
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: What kind of create creates. I love that create creating.

846
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: I love that. I feel like, especially in this day

847
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: and age, we don't do it enough. We don't do

848
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: it enough. There's not enough. It's creative, but it's for Instagram.

849
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: It's like not true pure creativity.

850
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: What kind of woman do you want to become over

851
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: the next five years.

852
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: Someone who's very gracious, someone who people can come to

853
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: for help, someone who is at peace, very much at

854
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: peace in my life and happy in every every sense

855
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: of it.

856
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: I love that.

857
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: What does success mean to you now versus when you

858
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: were younger?

859
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: It's a good question. It's deep. Okay, it's changed for

860
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 3: me so much. Yeah, so so much success.

861
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: When I was younger, it was being seen in a

862
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: way that I wanted people to see me, and now

863
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: it's being seen for who I actually am.

864
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Speaker 3: I love that. No, it's true. I was in the

865
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 3: same way. No, it makes complete sense.

866
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: You have an idea of what you think you want

867
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: people to think of you, and then you get to

868
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: an age where you're like, oh, I just want you

869
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: to accept me for who I am, because.

870
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Speaker 3: It's way too exhausting to try to be this other person.

871
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: It's really really exhausting peaceful and yeah, it's not peaceful

872
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: and you can't keep it mouth just like no, literally,

873
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: every day I'm like, what can I meditate?

874
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: What can I do?

875
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: What can I'm always telling myself embodiment, embodyment, I just

876
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: hear my therapist, I'm like, embodiment, how do I am?

877
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I'm someone who moves a mile

878
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: a minute and just tries to distract myself constantly and

879
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: never wants to sit in my own head. And I'm

880
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: just like, I have the TV, my phone, my laptop,

881
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm doing sixty.

882
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: Things, and I'm like, this is not peace.

883
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: No pure piece is being able to completely be with

884
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: yourself in silence. And if you're when I sit with

885
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: myself in silence and I'm like, my answer shaking, I'm like,

886
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: I'm not a peaceful person. So finding that it's the

887
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: only way because all the other stuff, your priorities shift

888
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: and I feel like all the other stuff kind of

889
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: goes away. And then you're like when you realize that

890
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: it's not fulfilling you, You're like, oh, I'm literally never

891
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: going to be happy if I don't figure out how

892
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: to be passful because none of this stuff is going

893
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: to make me happy and it's not permanent and it's

894
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: kind of meaningless. But when I was younger, you could

895
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: have never told me that. I would have been like, no,

896
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: how many followers I have on INSTERAIRAM will always be

897
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: the most important thing to me in the entire world

898
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: that matters to me. And now I'm like, oh, I

899
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: actually just have to be fulfilled or I'm going to

900
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: be unhappy and distracting myself. And you can always chase more.

901
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: You can always chase more. But it's like, can you

902
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 2: chase sitting with yourself?

903
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: Exactly to my therapist, come home to yourself every night

904
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: and be alone and say, am I happy with myself?

905
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? What kind of legacy do you want to leave behind?

906
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: Legacy questions? Those are hard. I don't know. I don't

907
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't know if I have

908
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: an answer for that, Like you should have like a

909
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 3: dance school, I dance, or at least teach classes. Would

910
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: you teach classes?

911
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: I would teach classes. I would teach classes I've done.

912
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: I've actually taught yoga classes. I have yoga Like.

913
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 3: I've been to one of your yoga classes. Oh my good. Yes, yes,

914
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: so I've taught yoga classes. But I don't know.

915
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's necessarily that maybe maybe curate

916
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: something that can be can be a big presentation of dance.

917
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: More so, I think maybe at the moment that like

918
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: I would love to produce something with a lot of

919
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: dance in it, whether that's like a show or a

920
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: gala or something, but not, I don't think fully fully,

921
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm if I would be a

922
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: great teacher maybe maybe to young students, but and maybe

923
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: not yet.

924
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not ready for that. No I'm not. You're

925
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: not not aged out? No, No, that's not what I mean.

926
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean.

927
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: I love, I love.

928
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: I think I can teach kids, but I don't know

929
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: if I can fully like do adults yet or like

930
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: professionals yet.

931
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Okay.

932
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 2: What is something you want to speak into existence and

933
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: make everybody speak something into existence?

934
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: It could be career, it could be personal. It could

935
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: literally be you saying I just want to be peaceful. Anything,

936
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 3: just something you want to say this.

937
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm setting this goal for myself and I'm speaking it

938
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: out loud, and it's gonna have.

939
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: Hmm my god.

940
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 3: I might have to think about it, think about it,

941
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: take a second. This is an important one.

942
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: Some people say like I'm gonna walk in the Victorias

943
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: Secret Fashion Show, and other people say like world peace,

944
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: Like it's just whatever. It's just a little something that

945
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: you can come back to in five years and be like,

946
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: oh my god, it actually happened.

947
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's cute. I really really want to do

948
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: Swan Lake as of debt and Odeal never done that role,

949
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: So I will do that role.

950
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I will be O'Dell.

951
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: It's very hard ballet and it would take a lot

952
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: of practice for me. It would take like a lot

953
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: of time to kind of get into those characters. But

954
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: I would love to do those characters. I would love to.

955
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: Is that where the inspiration for the Swan Library came from? Probably? Yeah,

956
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: I was.

957
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about, like what can connect because

958
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: I am a friend of mine Isabelle Wilson has Balleri

959
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: a book club that she started, and I was like, okay,

960
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: that's that's sort of their own thing, and I'm like,

961
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: what can I do that's you know, inspired by that,

962
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: but a version of my own? And I don't know,

963
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: I thought about like Swans and Swan libraries.

964
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 3: I love it. They're elegant. It sounds very like English. Yeah,

965
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: I like it. Okay, you will do swan Lake easy. Yeah,

966
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: it's basically done.

967
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: Last question, who do you think is the ultimate girl

968
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: and why does she inspire you?

969
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: I remember my last answers. I don't. Oh, yes, yes, yes,

970
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 3: oh great bangs, I know bangs fashion. She was did ballet, Okay.

971
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: I recently learned she basically like invented the ballet flat yeah,

972
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: with Repettit. I learned all of this when I was

973
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: in I went to their store and they were telling me,

974
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, this makes so much sense

975
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: because she wanted to wear her ballet shoes on the street.

976
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: I love it something as comfortable. I love that story too.

977
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: Icon icon it girl forever. Hmm, ultimate it girl? Can

978
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: I? I mean, I guess that's one you can have a feel.

979
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: But who is my ultimate A girl right now? I

980
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: mean I have to say I could say Sarah Mass,

981
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: Sarah J.

982
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 3: Mass. She's such an it girl.

983
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: She like created this entire universe in books that everybody

984
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: is obsessed with and we all relate to it, and

985
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: we all like she has brought such a community of

986
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: people together and has really started my obsession with reading.

987
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: So I is the it girl. That's a great answer. Yeah,

988
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: Oh I love it?

989
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: Okay, amazing.

990
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 2: We need more author it girls truly, truly, And you're right,

991
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: they bring they bring other women together, which is like

992
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: the most achirl thing you could possibly do. Do you

993
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: want to shout out your socials.

994
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: Instagram, Fioletta at Fioletta, TikTok at, Fioletta Kamshan.

995
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: And the Swan Library on Instagram and the Swan Library

996
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: soon to be on substack as well.

997
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: Yes, Honestly, today I'm doing I swear it's going to

998
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: change your life. You were my substack ferry. You came

999
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: here to tell me I was thinking about it.

1000
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: It will change your life. It is the best community

1001
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: of people you could ever have. You will like the

1002
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: things you can do. People really engage with your writing

1003
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 2: and care what you have to say. And I link

1004
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: the books that you are reading and be like, here's

1005
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: the link to the book I'm reading this week. I

1006
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: guarantee you'll sell books out, which is like the best

1007
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: feeling in the world to know.

1008
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: They're always asking.

1009
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: Me for reading rex and I'm like, I don't have any.

1010
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: I literally read self help books every day.

1011
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: So perfect. No, it'll be good. You talk about it after.

1012
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like, what is how do you write?

1013
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: Like?

1014
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: Is it essay format?

1015
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: Whatever you want, you can do it, and like you

1016
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: can do ten books. I just read you can do

1017
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: the book I'm reading this week.

1018
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: Here's why I love it. You can do it can

1019
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 3: be let personal.

1020
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do lists sometimes I do, like, oh,

1021
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: the ten things I'm shopping this week are ten things

1022
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 2: IT girls suggested to me when I was interviewing them

1023
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 2: this week, Like this is what they're wearing, and it

1024
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: will be a little list. Or you can be like,

1025
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: I'm having really bad anxiety. I want to write a

1026
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: think piece on anxiety. You write a think piece, do

1027
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: an essay, whatever you want. They want to read it perfect,

1028
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: They like to read. It's hard to find people who

1029
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: like to read.

1030
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: It's like the new version of newspaper.

1031
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: It basically is, it's like your own little personal newspaper,

1032
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: Like what do people if you were in newspaper, what

1033
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: would people want to open up and read?

1034
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: So it can be whatever. I love it. I am

1035
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: at Bailey t. Taylor.

1036
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: We are at It Girl the series, and we will

1037
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: be back next week with another It Girl, Big Girl.