WEBVTT - Rat Cohen Circus Hits Capitol Hill 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:16.520 You are entering the freedom hunt. Michael Cohen testifies on 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.440 Capitol Hill, and we don't learn a lot other than 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:23.440 Democrats suffer from Trump to arrangement syndrome, and they're looking 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.840 to impeach this president under any excuse. Plus, the President 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:30.240 is trying to stop a possible future nuclear war in Vietnam. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:32.720 If anybody wants to pay attention to that, we will. 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:34.880 That and more coming up on the buck Sexton Show. 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.839 This is the buck Sexton Show where the mission or 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:43.080 mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.800 Make no mistake, America, You're a great American. Again, the 0:00:49.000 --> 0:01:02.480 buck Sexton Show begins. Remember you guys are down, and 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:07.360 it makes sense that most of them, all of them, 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:12.319 says Poles. I just told you I answered your question. Okay, 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:17.120 which Poles? I want to apologize to each member to 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.240 use Congress as a whole. The last time I appeared 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:26.560 before Congress, I came to protect mister Trump. Today I 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.440 am here to tell the truth about mister Trump. I 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:35.000 lied to Congress when mister Trump stopped negotiating the Moscow 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:40.600 Tower project in Russia. I stated that we stopped negotiating 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:47.000 in January of twenty sixteen. That was false. Our negotiations 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:53.800 continued for months later during the campaign. Mister Trump did 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.320 not directly tell me to lie to Congress. That's not 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:04.920 how he operates. Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. Uh. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.840 You know, this is one of these days where the 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:14.359 whole news media, the whole journalism apparatus in this country 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:21.639 is fixated, fixated on this Cohen testimony on Capitol Hill. 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:27.520 I think a lot of Americans don't pay attention to this, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:34.520 and rightfully so because really, ultimately it's just such a circus, 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:40.200 so much in one place that is despicable and disgraceful, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.200 so many lies here. Yeah, i'man Cohen's a liar. Cohen 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:49.840 is being forced to engage in a kind of self flagellation, 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.760 kind of ritualized humiliation on TV for the amusement of 0:02:53.760 --> 0:03:00.000 the trump'ter arrangement syndrome. Mob Democrats get to grand stand 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.960 and give these little short speeches about how this and 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:08.000 that and democracy. And it was one of these days 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.440 where you also are reminded that a lot of people 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.280 who are in Congress just aren't very smart. They're just 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.240 not you know, they just really wanted the job and 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:17.880 willing to say whatever they had to say to get 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.959 the job. But a lot of members of Congress are 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:26.120 deeply unimpressive. But Michael Cohen, they set him up to 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.080 do this, the Democrats asked him to do this. He's 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:36.040 got Lannie Davis close confidante consoliary to the Clintons, Lannie 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.840 Davis there with him, and they're going with this whole Oh, 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.600 it's a redemption story. Oh that's right. Cohen just want 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.880 he just wants to be a better man now he's 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.320 learned his lesson. Whatever they have to say, They are 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:50.800 going to say here, you know, whatever they have to 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.680 do to try to make this stick. And the whole 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:58.800 thing's a disgrace. The whole thing is a disgrace. You 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.560 first of all, have a guy who is the personal 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:09.240 lawyer to the president and he is violating attorney client 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:15.800 privilege just because there's no proof of any criminal activity 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.960 between Trump and Cohen. And if they can't get him, 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.760 I mean, I have obviously a completely different take on this. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.600 And you're gonna get from the mainstream media if you 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:32.240 can't get the President of the United States on something 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.839 when you have his attorney for over a decade just 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.280 doing everything that he can to throw his former client 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.400 into the bus. I mean all ethics, by the way, 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:48.560 all sense of decency and propriety for a lawyer all 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.560 gone here. But they still can't nail Trump with anything. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:58.880 There's still nothing there, and they don't have anything on collusion. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.440 They don't have anything to prove the Russia hoax was 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:06.479 real that the Trump administration. Could you imagine if we 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:11.120 if we had had one lawyer close to Hillary and 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.440 Bill Clinton for the last ten years who decided to 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.080 just straight up flip on them. I mean, give all 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.039 the goods, you know, Hillary and Billy, they'd be going 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:25.880 away for a long time. And even though the prosecutors 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.680 the Democratic establishment wouldn't want anyone to bring charges against them, 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.000 it would be too obvious. They'd be too much there. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.560 So if someone with access to what was really happening 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.560 with Hillary and the Clinton Foundation and Bill and I 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.240 was just worth eight hundred thousand for that speech in 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:46.800 Russia or five hundred thousand or whatever was somebody came forward, 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.240 the Clintons would be would be over and done with 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:54.480 and sent to prison very very expeditiously. But they've got 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:59.159 the president's personal attorney coming forward saying everything he can 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.919 to try and destroy this president, and they're not going 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.440 to have any charges. I mean, Cohen said, I'm a 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.920 Shane because I know what Trump is. He is a racist, 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.480 he is a conman, he is a cheat, and yet 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:17.280 he's a better president than Barack Obama was, or George 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:22.960 Bush was, or just go down the list. The country 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.400 is doing well. I spoke this week even to some 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:29.840 friends of mine who are pretty agnostic about politics but 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:34.919 very very knowledgeable about economics and finance because they work 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.680 in those areas in ways where you have to be 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.680 good at your job. I'm not talking about professors, I'm 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.560 talking about practitioners, and they say, look, I don't agree 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.600 with the president's tone of it, but in terms of 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.479 what he's doing, in terms of the way he's approaching 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:54.200 capitalism and the economy, it's great. It's really really positive 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.200 for the country. So you know that they can tell 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.400 us as much as they want the Trump is a racist, 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.920 a comment, a cheat, But at the end of the day, 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.400 this is coming from a guy who is a known liar. 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.239 But even more importantly than the fact that that Cohen 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:13.320 is a known liar, a lot of what the testimony 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:17.920 did today was shoot down some of the craziest conspiracy 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:22.480 theories out there about Trump. We did get Cohen on 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.760 the record in front of Congress saying he's never been 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:31.720 in Prague. So a very clearly verifiable part of the 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.480 dossier that was used to get this whole Russia collusion 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:38.640 farcet going was wrong. And unless you think that Cohen's 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:45.160 just subjecting himself to additional possible federal criminal charges just 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.760 for giggles at this point. But everything that happened today 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:57.000 with this, all of the different you know, congressional questioners 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.560 and and everybody who was coming after, they're all part 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:07.040 of this circus effort to try and create a basis 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.360 for we all know this is going to turn into, 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.680 which is impeachment. They want to impeach this president. That's 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.720 what they want to do. They want to impeach him, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.840 even if they realize and I think the Democrats know 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:25.360 this somewhere and their Democrat minds, they know that impeaching 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:31.320 the president may help him stay in office, impeaching the 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:35.040 president may be a bad political move. I don't think 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.240 that Democrats can help themselves. I think that they're at 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:43.960 a point where they just feel like they absolutely. Their 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:48.560 base demands it. Their base demands that the President United 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:53.480 States gets impeached. This is now, that this is, These 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.920 are the wages of Trump's arrangement syndrome that we are 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:01.760 seeing happening right now. Representative Green from Oh wow, I 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.480 talked to him this morning. That's interesting, and then he's 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.400 on the on Capitol Hill answer. But I think it's 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.040 still going on now. I mean the whole thing. I'll 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:13.280 get into my broad stroke assessment of it in a second, 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.400 but whole thing's kind of a waste of time, honestly, 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:18.800 because even if they didn't do this, Democrats are going 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.680 to impeach Trump. There's really no new information. There's nothing 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.120 new to work with here. In fact, if anything, it 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:28.679 just shows that there's if Michael Cohen didn't know about collusion, 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.280 are we really gonna think that there was collusion? Who 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.240 did know? Donald Trump just did this whole thing with 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.959 Russia on his own, didn't didn't talk to anybody, didn't 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.040 What a joke? Any Representative Green is saying though Cohen's 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.800 a liar, which we all know. Play nine. The Democrats 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.360 have vastly limited the scope of this hearing. They've issued 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.040 a gag order to try to tell members of this 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.160 committee what we can and cannot talk about. My colleagues 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:56.760 on the other side of the aisle claim that they 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.880 want the truth, that they want transparency and fair oversight. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.120 Yet the Democrats witness to testify before Congress today is 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.000 none other than a scorned man who's going to prison 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.000 for lying to Congress. Let that sink in. He's going 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.800 to prison for lying to Congress, and he's the star 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.560 witness to Congress. If you read the sentencing report on 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.520 mister Cohen, words like deceptive and greedy are scattered throughout 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.120 that report. It paints a picture of a narcissist, a 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.920 bully who cannot tell the truth, whether it's about the 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.600 president or about his own personal life. But today he's 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.120 the majority party's star witness. If the Democrats were after 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:38.680 the truth, they'd have an honest person here testifying. Now. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.440 I think most of what Congress and Green there said 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.560 is true, except I would add this. I think Republicans, 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.280 a lot of them that they didn't really do as 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.600 good a job as I would have liked. I think 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:54.960 a lot of Republicans were were weak in their questioning 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.520 here because they should have seen Cohen as an opportunity 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.679 to knock down some of the crazier things that Democrats 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.800 still cling to about Russia collusion, right. I mean the 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.240 fact that it took them as long as it did 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.319 to ask a question about have you ever been to Prague? 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.240 For example? I mean, this should have been asked a 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.200 lot sooner. This should have been known a lot sooner 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:20.640 on the record, this idea that he was scorned though, 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.720 and this came up quite a bit. It were saying 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:28.000 that the issue here was that Cohen didn't get the 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.120 White House job that he wanted. I would say even 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.199 CNN and some of the Democrats were like, well, look, 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.040 we all know Cohen wanted a White House job that 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.360 was well known, but that he would be doing all 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.600 this because he didn't get that job. And some Republicans 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.360 seem to take that approach that that's just silly. He's 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.800 doing what he Cohen is trying to trash the president's 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:54.600 today because he's going to federal prison. He wants some 0:11:55.520 --> 0:12:00.760 sense that the establishment will make room for him when 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.720 he gets out, that he will have made amends in 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.720 the eyes of the very powerful Democrat machine in this country. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.520 And you know, he's trying to take some of the 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.680 heat off himself as he goes as he goes away, 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:16.320 I mean, this was his throwing himself on the mercy 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.240 of the left wing machine today, and the left wing 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.720 machine has no mercy. So it's a very bad idea. Now, 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:27.920 that's what this was. He's nailed on numerous federal charges, 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.920 he's facing years and years in prison. They could have 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.280 gotten him to say whatever they wanted him to say today, 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.640 and that's pretty much what they did. This was a setup, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.920 as we know. This was the Democrats engaging in politics 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.959 under the guise of oversight. There's no oversight here. They 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.320 were asking him all kinds of stuff about Trump and 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.320 his finances and his taxes, and this was just they 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:56.040 turned Congress today into one big opo session. It's like 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.359 they made Congress one of those mega panels of imbeciles 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.880 over at c Then you just get to hear all 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.440 this different bashing of Trump. And yes, there were some 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.280 Republicans there that were trying to get better answers, trying 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.640 to push back on this, but by and large, because 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:18.000 Michael Cohen is the witness, you're gonna get anti Trump lunacy, 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.960 and that was what you got. Not all of It 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.959 went well for Cohen, though for sure Mark Meadows asked 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.040 him about what he was doing with his foreign entities. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.720 And this is tough, right because we've got how many 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.600 hours of hours and hours and hours of testimony to day, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:33.319 But we're gonna spend We're only talking about this a 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:34.840 little bit the first hour of the show. That's it. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.719 We're gonna move on to other things. This is not 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:41.120 that important. I watched it today so that you don't 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.120 have to, and and it already and no one's even 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.960 gonna remember this in a week. The Democrats will just 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:51.040 refer to Michael Cohen's damaging testimony. Cohen could have showed 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.160 up in like I Hate Trump, and all we'd hear 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.920 for weeks ahead was Democrats saying Michael Cohen's damn damning 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.600 testimony of Donald Trump means that we must, we have 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.400 no choice but to impeach. That's where all this is going. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.680 It was just mostly blather today. I mean, Debbie Wasserman 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:14.040 Schultz at one point was asking, well, you can't prove collusion, 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.000 don't have any proof, but do you think it's like 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.840 possible maybe that he colluded with the Russians based on 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:24.600 you knowing him. That's asking a witness to just wildly speculate. Yeah, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:26.680 do you think it's possible you can't prove it? Do 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.440 you think that this person is actually an axe murderer? 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.040 I mean, there's no proof of this, But do you think, 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:36.640 I mean, maybe can you prove he's not an axe murderer? Well, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.000 I suppose that's one way to go here. There were 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.680 some takeaways from this that I think we'll come up again, 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.640 and that will be helpful for us to dig into 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.440 a bit. We will certainly do that. We'll also talk 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.640 about the fact that the president's trying to negotiate a 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.000 deal that would help avert a major war on the 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.120 Korean peninsula that could have come as soon as who knows, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.040 a matter of a few years based on what we've 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:03.800 been seeing. There also Trump's efforts with China. How important 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.400 those are right now? I mean, there's a lot of 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.920 stuff that's happening that really does matter. Michael Cohen talking 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:12.600 about a payoff of a porn star is not one 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.160 of them. But here we are. The country has been 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.240 so at least the people that believe the Democrats have 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.000 their minds have been so poisoned against this president that 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.240 they can't help, but latch onto every fanatical bit of 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.800 Trump hatred that they can. We've got much more common team, 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:34.840 Stay with me. I'm concerned about your lives today. Under 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.080 your testimony just a few minutes ago to me, you 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:43.120 indicated that you had contracts with foreign entities, and yet 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.800 we have a truth and Testimony disclosure film which requires 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.080 you to list those foreign contracts for the last two years, 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.840 and you put na on there. And it's a criminal 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:59.400 offense to not have that accurately. So when were you 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.160 lying they're in the testimony to me earlier today or 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.200 when you filled out the form. Jemma's time has expired. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.480 As to coin, you may answer his question and then 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.760 whatever you wanted to say on it is his questions. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:16.640 Unfortunately I don't have an answer for his question. Well, 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.240 Mark Meadows is saying that there could be even further 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.680 legal jeopardy at this point for Colin, although I doubt 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.880 anyone's good. I think he referred him to the DOJ 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:29.200 for failing to fill out that thing about the foreign 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.280 influences correctly. But you know, Cohen's already go into prison, 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:36.480 so he has nothing to lose here except well, maybe 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.960 shave some time off of his sentence. That's always possible. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.760 Although in a federal situation you actually can't get parole, 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.880 so the charges are all federal. That wouldn't work. Cohen 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.120 is not a particularly good lawyer, and this is I 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.600 cannot skip over this entirely particularly good lawyer he may be. 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.160 I don't know if it's Code or Alvanati, who is 0:16:55.200 --> 0:17:00.320 the worst lawyer twenty eighteen. It's a I tell call. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.960 I think either one of them you can make the case. 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:08.200 But Cohen was asked or he asked a very straightforward 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.080 question because remember he taped Trump, which is a strange 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.560 thing to do as well, because he taped him before 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.040 it seems that he had this whole change of heart thing, right, 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.920 I mean, you got Carolyn Maloney is saying, for example, 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.879 that this is a story of redemption. The congresswoman Maloney 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:29.120 played fourteen. Michael, can you suggest who else this committee 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:35.200 should talk to for additional information on this or anything else? Yes, 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:40.960 I believe David Becker, Dylan Howard, Barry Levine of AMI 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:49.159 as well, Alan Weisselberg, Alan Garden, Trump Organization as well. Well. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.879 Thank you very much for your testimony, and mister Chairman, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:57.560 this is a story of redemption, Thank you man. Meanwhile, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.520 a story of redemption. Yeah right. Cohen doesn't know if 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.800 recording clients is ethical play fifteen New York's a one 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.280 party can sensate, one person can record the other one 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.000 without it being illegal. Correct, But you also are a 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.879 member of the New York Bar. I was, yes, how 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.080 would you rate recording clients in the ethical realm of 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.960 being a lawyer? And it's not illegal? And I'm not 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.320 asking if it's illegal, I'm asking if it's I don't 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.600 I don't know that we'd have to leave and judgment 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.720 of the bars socially so. But I think every other 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:29.520 lawyer in here knows exactly where it is in the 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:36.440 ethical standard. Highly highly highly unethical. I'm not a lawyer, 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.640 and I don't play well on radio, but I can 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:44.639 tell you guess what lawyers recording their clients as leverage 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:57.040 against them. It's a big problem. He's holding the line 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:02.040 for America. Buck Sexton his back. Once I get eight seconds. 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.480 I got eight seconds. What did you talk to mister 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:13.280 Schiff about. I spoke to mister Schiff about topics that 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:19.000 we're going to be raised at the upcoming hearing. Whoa 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.120 not just what time to show up? Actually what you're 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.359 going to talk about the gentlemen? Time to expired? Wow, 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:31.640 mister starbing H. It's almost like this is all a 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.480 Democrat opo exhibition in the first place, isn't it. I 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.080 want to bring in somebody who can speak to the 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.400 politics and also speak to what's going on in Vietnam, 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.800 which is much more consequential than anything happening on Capitol Hill. Today. 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.000 We're joined by our friend Tony Schaeffer, Lieutenant colonel. He 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.840 has of course retired. He's Vice president for Strategic Initiatives 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:54.439 and Operations at the London Center for Policy Research. Tony, 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.720 great to have you all, my friend, Hey Buck, thanks 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:58.639 for having me. Great to be back on and talking 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.359 to you again. So tell a bit about just, you know, 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.959 your takeaways today. What mattered from what was a pretty endless, 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.240 repetitive and overall boring hearing, but from what you could 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.160 see and from you know, what should we care about? 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.200 From as if anything, well, I think the one thing 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:19.320 that kicked this all off theoretically, you know, theoretically being 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.920 the operative word, is the Russian collusion issue. And I 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:28.720 heard nothing that relates directly to anything Russia other than 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:33.359 an opinion that you know, Cohen had not. Remember, this 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.200 guy's a lawyer, so he's supposed to understand the basic 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.800 tenants of the law. He had a feeling that something 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.800 was going on, and you know, you and I and 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.919 stuff we've been over the years. That won't even make 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.679 for a good field report, let alone, uh, you know, 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:53.280 a sworn bit of testimony. And secondly, you know Jim 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.600 Jordan and I love Jimmy, you know, confirm a friend, 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.280 was I think doing the right thing going through and 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:04.159 trying to tear down the narrative by the fact that 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:08.280 Cohen lied, He got caught lying. He's been convicted. Pretty 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.760 much everything he's been convicted of relates to his own 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:15.560 personal deceptive practices. And that's the other thing that Jim 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:17.600 Jordan I think did a great job, and other members 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:20.480 of the Republican side did. They kind of showed this 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:24.760 guy to be a complete fraud and those those things, 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.679 you know, that's the fact. And you've got people like 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:32.000 Shift Representative Shift, whose primary objective in life has not 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.520 been accountability or oversight. It's been trying to find something 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:39.879 to disrupt the president and what he's doing, and to 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:45.640 me today was a complete and utter play, if you will, 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.200 good guys, bad guys, all about the politics, But wasn't 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:53.639 one point I found from anything I've heard, that resulted 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:57.159 in any legal issue. The president should be worried about it. 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.320 I think it was just a political theater. And in 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:05.480 terms of impeachment, are we heading there regardless of whatever 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.240 the analysis is from the left of today's events, And 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.840 I've always felt like they're willing to go there, even 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:17.040 if wisdom would tell them not to. Unfortunately, I think 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.879 that if people were actually looking at the facts and 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:22.840 again following the law, looking at what is legal and not, 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.480 the issues which were brought up today by Cohen are 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:30.800 inconvenient and it's it's the old adage of making sausage, 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.920 you know, the sausage making process is very nasty. Politics 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.040 are very nasty, nasty game, and everything I heard that 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.520 they had to do with the way the political game 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.359 is played, no matter what side you're on, but not 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:46.879 a thing rises to the level remotely of impeachment. With 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:51.480 that said, I think that the Democrat Party are completely 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:55.199 committed to that being a course of action, and I 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.159 don't think there's going to be any common sense or 0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:00.440 any facts which slowed them down from pushing towards something 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.280 in the way of some appeachable offense, even if they 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.000 have to make one out, make one up out a 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.400 whole cloth. We're speaking to a Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaeffer 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:11.280 of a London Center for a Policy research. All right, 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.520 let's get to Let's get to something that actually matters 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:15.879 to all of us, or should matter to all of us, 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:19.959 which is the prospect for a breakthrough with North Korea 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.200 President Trump's in Vietnam. Look, Tony, you and I both 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.760 know that this is not just high stakes. It is 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:29.720 a difficult a difficult ask. It's a difficult thing to 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.480 pull off here, no question about it. But you know, 0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:35.000 how do you view where the president is on this 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:38.240 so far, and what are your expectations for what he 0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:43.760 realistically but successfully could get out of this. Yeah. I've 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:47.440 worked this issue since the nineteen ninety two one, back 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.600 when Jim Wolsey became director of CIA, and Jim and 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:52.760 I are still friends and we talk about this fairly often. 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:56.000 Even then in the nineties, when we knew that we 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.800 had intered into agreement that they would uncularize, they didn't 0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:00.960 do it. We gave the stuff anyway. That was repeated 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:04.639 under President Bush and again repeated under Barack Obama. Every 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.159 time we've sought an agreement and given them stuff, they 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.040 were neigued. President got to stop that. He's actually taking 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:14.000 the approach of let's talk to them and maintain really 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.880 hard sanctions, but give them an option other than simply 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.640 trying to contain them. And the option here, I think 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.840 is a valid one is the idea of creating an 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.960 economic circumstance, an enticement, if you will, for the entire 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.959 country to kind of walk itself off the ledge. And 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.880 I think the strategy of doing this in Vietnam, which 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:37.000 was a former enemy now turned an economic partner, was 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.480 a brilliant move. It's kind of like the proofs in 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:43.760 the pudding, walk away from the Dula coast language and behavior, 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.240 and hey, you may join the twenty first century. So 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.399 I think that's the thing to take away from here. 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:53.159 And do I believe there'll be a huge breakout or 0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.680 a huge event at this I'm hoping, I am sincerely 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.960 hoping that we'll get some indication that we're going to 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:02.040 end the Korean War war that's been essentially ongoing. But 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.600