Speaker 1: What's that bed. I'm pretty sure it's dead. He's coming
Speaker 1: this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I said, Hiro's dress.
Speaker 1: E plase, Hey boo, it's me ros dress false. I
Speaker 1: will be honest with you, I'm a little bit groggy
Speaker 1: today because I stayed uh well, I didn't actually stay
Speaker 1: the whole night, but I did have a very late
Speaker 1: night at the world famous Queen Mary of Long Beach, which,
Speaker 1: if you don't know about it, gigantic ship that is
Speaker 1: one of the most haunted and most famous haunted places
Speaker 1: in the world, and we're very lucky to have it
Speaker 1: here in southern California, and I've, weirdly, I've never been,
Speaker 1: so I had a friend that was nice enough to
Speaker 1: rent a room and I went over to visit. I
Speaker 1: had the option of staying the entire night, but I
Speaker 1: knew that all my friends were gonna go to sleep,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to stay there with you know,
Speaker 1: ghosts hovering over me and no one else to see it.
Speaker 1: So I decided that I was gonna leave around like
Speaker 1: four am. But anyway, spoiler alert, not much happened at all.
Speaker 1: But I did make a cute little video that I
Speaker 1: need to edit together, and I'm going to post in
Speaker 1: the Facebook group ghosted by Rob's Dressfuless, So if you
Speaker 1: join it, I will be posting that. You know, I
Speaker 1: do have kind of a wild, crazy, busy week this week,
Speaker 1: so hopefully at some point I'll be able to edit
Speaker 1: it all together within the next week or so and
Speaker 1: then I'll post it. But yeah, I need to review
Speaker 1: the footage. Maybe there's a ghost walking around in the
Speaker 1: back or something. But I'll be honest, none of my
Speaker 1: ghost vibes went off. My friends got there at about
Speaker 1: five pm. I had shows, and I got there around midnight,
Speaker 1: and none of my friends really had anything that they
Speaker 1: can really report. Maybe a couple of feelings here and there,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they stayed the whole night and they said
Speaker 1: nothing really happened, so unfortunately, and we stayed in the
Speaker 1: Haunted Room, Room B three forty. So special shout out
Speaker 1: to Alissa who's a listener of the show, and she
Speaker 1: was so kind to invite me to go check out
Speaker 1: the Haunted Room and walk around the entire ship, which
Speaker 1: is such a cool place. But yeah, much happened. You
Speaker 1: know where A lot is happening here on the show
Speaker 1: today because we have a legend of Los Angeles. Her
Speaker 1: name is Pleasant Game and she has all kinds of stories.
Speaker 1: Now here's something that's really special about Pleasant. I wanted
Speaker 1: to introduce our listeners if you're not familiar with her,
Speaker 1: because she will be at the live show at Casita
Speaker 1: del Campo at the Cavern Club theater, which is in
Speaker 1: the basement of the Mexican restaurant in Silver Lake, California.
Speaker 1: And she'll be there and she we haven't figured out
Speaker 1: exactly what she's gonna do, but you know, she knows
Speaker 1: how to to have some experiences with paranormal so maybe
Speaker 1: she'll help some stuff happen down there. Not quite sure yet,
Speaker 1: but wanted to introduce you to her, and I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoy this. So here she is on with the show.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, I am joined by a true I mean,
Speaker 1: as I was saying to you before we started this,
Speaker 1: like multi hyphen it doesn't even begin to describe because
Speaker 1: you do so many different I mean, you're a punk
Speaker 1: rock icon and legend, you are a belly dancer, you
Speaker 1: produce your own show, you're but one of the big
Speaker 1: reasons why I want to talk to you, especially on
Speaker 1: this show, is because you do Taro your psychic, your witch,
Speaker 1: and a paranormal investigator. It's pleasant, gamin hi, and also
Speaker 1: like best name in the biz, thank you, and that's
Speaker 1: your real name.
Speaker 2: Was a pleasant surprise?
Speaker 1: Oh is that why?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Not an a well, maybe an accident as well.
Speaker 2: But they were going to name me Andrew. And the
Speaker 2: first thing that happened when I was born was my
Speaker 2: father said, what a pleasant surprise, and my mother said,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to name her Andrea. I hate that name,
Speaker 2: so my name is baby for like almost two weeks.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Then they settled unpleasant and you're a
Speaker 1: pleasant game and I love that. It's gorgeous. I we've
Speaker 1: already been talking and there's this is one of those
Speaker 1: interviews where I don't even know how we're going to
Speaker 1: do that because there's just so much to talk about.
Speaker 1: So I'm already calling a part two. There's gonna have
Speaker 1: to be because you've investigated so many different places, and
Speaker 1: you do this like professionally, like people can hire you
Speaker 1: to come in and what do you do.
Speaker 2: You bring all the equipment, all the equipment, I bring
Speaker 2: all the high tech and low tech stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: and that there's like a number of things that you bring,
Speaker 2: there's like ev EVP meters, there's there's a spirit box.
Speaker 2: I mean if I if I started describing how all
Speaker 2: of these things work, that would take a really long time, yeah,
Speaker 2: and eat up time for fun stories. But then so
Speaker 2: all the high tech like investigation equipment, and then also
Speaker 2: all the low tech traditional stuff like divining rods and pendulums,
Speaker 2: and then just good old feelings. But like, over the
Speaker 2: years of doing investigations, there's been so many insane stories
Speaker 2: and a lot caught on video or photos.
Speaker 1: So no way, have you caught EVPs?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, tons of EVPs? And then there's a uh
Speaker 2: we had Okay, So one time we were I was
Speaker 2: with Crystal Raven roll Wolf, who's been like a longtime
Speaker 2: paranormal investigator partner of mine, and we also just finished
Speaker 2: writing a tarot book that's gonna come out next year.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: But we were in the middle of investigating this place
Speaker 2: called Hobbs Grove, which is a Halloween haunt. It's one
Speaker 2: of like the biggest and most well known in the country.
Speaker 1: Where is it.
Speaker 2: It's up in central California. It's near Fresno on this
Speaker 2: old what used to be a walnut farm, but they
Speaker 2: contacted us on Facebook because they have over one hundred
Speaker 2: cast members working there like every year from like the
Speaker 2: end of August through November, like you know, reenacting like
Speaker 2: chainshaw murders in the woods and chasing people around and
Speaker 2: all this rigged carnival funhouse stuff. So they they contacted
Speaker 2: us and sat us this huge email of like just
Speaker 2: crazy shit that was going on there, and some of
Speaker 2: the actors, many of whom had been working there for years, like,
Speaker 2: walked off a night like right before Halloween. It was
Speaker 2: a week before Halloween. There was like hundreds of people
Speaker 2: in the park and all these people in this one
Speaker 2: thing that they called the Redneck camp out in the
Speaker 2: forest walked off because there were these giant you know
Speaker 2: those spools that you use for that they roll telephone
Speaker 2: wire on that you see sometimes they look like a
Speaker 2: big dining room table, but they're gigantic, like they're like
Speaker 2: really like four or five feet circumference of a circle.
Speaker 2: Like at least fifteen people saw one stand itself up
Speaker 2: and then start rolling around through the trees. And these
Speaker 2: were yes, and these were actors that had worked there
Speaker 2: for ages and they're like okay, I'm then, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: or like then there was another guy who it was
Speaker 2: his first night and he got post stood somewhere in
Speaker 2: the woods, not at that exact camp, And at the
Speaker 2: end of everyone's shift, it was with all the other
Speaker 2: actors changing and they're like, how'd you like the first night?
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, it was really fun. You know,
Speaker 2: it scared a lot of people. And plus that hologram
Speaker 2: was great and everyone's like, na hologram and he's like yeah,
Speaker 2: and they're like, what do you mean? And they're like,
Speaker 2: you know the guy who's who ended halfway down the
Speaker 2: torso in the nineteen thirties green suit. That was like
Speaker 2: laughing and stuff up in the air, and everybody looked
Speaker 2: at each other and they're like, we don't have holigras.
Speaker 1: Oh no, wait, what's the history of that place?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Okay, So that place has been there
Speaker 2: since like the eighteen nineties. It was a farm. There
Speaker 2: was there was some tragedy with the people that were
Speaker 2: either hired to work there. It was like a family
Speaker 2: I think their cottage burned down. It's next to a
Speaker 2: river which is always haunted, and there's just a bunch
Speaker 2: of like you know, like burial sites around there because
Speaker 2: it's pretty much out in the middle of nowhere. And okay,
Speaker 2: so there there's another Uh, there's an do you know
Speaker 2: what an ovelis is? An ovelis is a thing that
Speaker 2: you can carry for paranormal investigation and it allows spirits
Speaker 2: to talk to you. It's got like a sort of
Speaker 2: dictionary thesaurus thing in it built into it with like
Speaker 2: a vocabulary of like eight thousand words. So when you're
Speaker 2: using an ovelis, you can say, like, hey, is anybody
Speaker 2: out there? And if it says something like you know,
Speaker 2: red green or something, you know it's not intelligent. But
Speaker 2: if it says high, yes I'm here, which I can
Speaker 2: say like a robot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we were during this Hobsgrove investigation. We were
Speaker 2: in the barn and so many people had hurt and like,
Speaker 2: some people stay in the hay loft. I mean there's
Speaker 2: an ad hay ind and there's beds up there, like
Speaker 2: some of the actors when they're working there, and their
Speaker 2: dressing rooms are below it in the actual barn part.
Speaker 2: But people kept saying that they heard like footsteps in
Speaker 2: the roof and there's no way to get up there,
Speaker 2: you know. And then people kept feeling like the barn
Speaker 2: was super haunted. So Crystal and I were in there
Speaker 2: with this woman who's nickname in the paranormal community is mom.
Speaker 2: Her name is jan Acosta, but she's been doing investigation
Speaker 2: since the late sixties in the early seventies, and she's
Speaker 2: just awesome. But she also looks like she looks like
Speaker 2: like a Midwest housewife. I just want to say this,
Speaker 2: you know, like sweet hair. She was wearing crocs, I mean,
Speaker 2: like a fanny pack. I mean, she's she's absolutely wonderful,
Speaker 2: but it's not like she's a hot ticket, right, Sorry, Mom,
Speaker 2: if you're listening, you are a hot ticket. And we'll
Speaker 2: hear that in a minute. Anyway, so the ovelis was
Speaker 2: like babbling to us, you know, how many people are here?
Speaker 2: What do you think of being? You know, how is
Speaker 2: it for you guys here haunting a Halloween haunt? And
Speaker 2: the ovelis yelled it's perfect, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was like crazy stuff like that going on,
Speaker 2: Like you know, if it says it's perfect right when
Speaker 2: you ask that question, a spirit that's intelligent totally yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, then it suddenly went quiet, so Crystal and
Speaker 2: I were asking questions a few more times, like hey,
Speaker 2: are you still there? Because things had been very talkative,
Speaker 2: and then it just stopped. And then finally Crystal goes,
Speaker 2: what's the matter. Don't you want to talk to cute girls?
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, don't you guys want to
Speaker 2: talk to hot girls? I mean, because you talk to spirits,
Speaker 2: or at least we do just the same way that
Speaker 2: you talk to people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, We're like, don't.
Speaker 2: You want to talk to hot girls? And the almost immediately.
Speaker 1: Went Mom's hotter like no.
Speaker 2: Yes, and moms like, who had been very calm and
Speaker 2: normal during the whole investigation, throws her hands up in
Speaker 2: the air and that's that's rat and during booty dances
Speaker 2: and the people at Hobbs Grove were just like like
Speaker 2: their mouths were just open and we're all were like
Speaker 2: cracking up. That like ruined the investigation for a good.
Speaker 1: Ten Oh my god, that's how I'm going to be
Speaker 1: on my next investigation. Didn't you have to talk to
Speaker 1: a hot girl like me?
Speaker 2: Totally? They'll talk back?
Speaker 1: Well, how would you describe what I'm wearing right now?
Speaker 1: I mean, usually I'm dressed like mom, but today I
Speaker 1: wanted to go all up.
Speaker 2: You look you look full, You look full like gorgeous,
Speaker 2: exquisite corpse. I'd say as yours. Your is your luke
Speaker 2: for today it's like a corpse. Yeah, Martitia Adams wishes
Speaker 2: where did you get those eyelashes? By the way, I
Speaker 2: need them.
Speaker 1: These are all natural, baby, now right out of the head.
Speaker 2: Will you leave them to me in your will and
Speaker 2: hope that I don't stab you for them?
Speaker 1: Just skin my eyes and take.
Speaker 2: On your eyes, but I'll be careful not to DMP
Speaker 2: the blash.
Speaker 1: But you know what's okay. So I always I talked
Speaker 1: about this many times in the show, but I sleep
Speaker 1: on my face, which I know is bad for aging.
Speaker 2: But I sleep like an Egyptian pharaoh and I wake
Speaker 2: up in the same position. It horrifies me.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm a mover, but I'm always down on my
Speaker 1: face because I've heard that if you sleep on your back,
Speaker 1: that's how sleep paralysis can happen. It's just like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a theory, old hag, I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is what people have told me. And so I
Speaker 1: sleep on my face. But with these lashes. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: wake up and they're all like crunchy and like, you know,
Speaker 1: I have to curl.
Speaker 2: You went from Alice in Wonderland to Alice Cooper.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, I have to.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a crazy sleeping story that happened in
Speaker 2: my house.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So this happened like about five or six
Speaker 2: years ago. I like just pinged the wake. I wasn't scared.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like when you wake up startled, but I
Speaker 2: just like opened my eyes, like if it was in
Speaker 2: a horror movie, it would have been like the noise,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it was pitch black
Speaker 2: in there, and I'm completely blind without my glasses, Like
Speaker 2: I have to smell my way around the house Helen
Speaker 2: Keller style if I misplaced my glasses, like like just
Speaker 2: feel stuff and like, yeah, have my nose on every surface.
Speaker 2: So I woke up and I just woke up really fast,
Speaker 2: and I was facing you know, sleeping on my back,
Speaker 2: and I was facing the ceiling and I saw this
Speaker 2: like radiator fluid like neon green colored like mist like
Speaker 2: revolving around counterclockwise on the ceiling. So I'm like looking
Speaker 2: at it, and I was like is this real or
Speaker 2: is this like when you wake up in the air.
Speaker 2: You know how the air kind of looks like it's
Speaker 2: moving in a really dark place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 2: I thought it was that. So I'm groping around while
Speaker 2: I'm watching this thing moving going? Am I really seeing that?
Speaker 2: I'm groping around from my glasses on the bedside table.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, it's coming from the
Speaker 2: smoke detector, because there's one above my bed. So I
Speaker 2: found my glasses, I put them on the face, and
Speaker 2: then I turned and the light was on on the
Speaker 2: smoke detector, but it was red like the one in
Speaker 2: the kitchen had a green light. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's not coming from the smoke detector. And when I
Speaker 2: had my glasses on, I could see how really full
Speaker 2: formed it was and how quickly it was moving, and
Speaker 2: I was like, what is that? So I got up
Speaker 2: and went to the bathroom. Not TMI, I'm just letting
Speaker 2: you know this stuff. For like a time, I peed,
Speaker 2: I wiped, I washed my hands, I looked at my face,
Speaker 2: I put handbosh and on. So I was in there
Speaker 2: for like a little while, right I was fully awake.
Speaker 2: At that point, I got I went I walked down
Speaker 2: the little hallway, which is super hunted in my house.
Speaker 2: I mean, my house is like grandson Gal station. And
Speaker 2: then I got into bed and I have a laugh
Speaker 2: that it's pretty high. But normally I'll like just you know,
Speaker 2: climb up the little steps and be normal. But this
Speaker 2: time I crawled in with my back to the ceiling,
Speaker 2: and then I closed my eyes and then laid down
Speaker 2: on my back. And then this like internal dialogue started
Speaker 2: with me, like because I didn't look at the at
Speaker 2: the ceiling, right, I didn't realize that I hadn't done that.
Speaker 2: And then so one part of me, and this isn't
Speaker 2: this part isn't like you know, mine control or schizophrenia.
Speaker 2: So one part of me was like, are you really
Speaker 2: gonna just go to sleep without checking to see if
Speaker 2: that thing is still on the ceiling, And the other
Speaker 2: side of me was like, oh, it'll be okay, and
Speaker 2: then the other side was like, are you fucking high?
Speaker 2: So I opened my eyes and it was still there,
Speaker 2: and then I was like, wow, what are you supposed
Speaker 2: to do? And this kind of situation and I was
Speaker 2: just sort of like regarding it, like, Wow, this is
Speaker 2: a real thing, this is not a dream. And so
Speaker 2: I was still like laying there. I didn't feel vulnerable
Speaker 2: or like scared or weird. But then it started getting
Speaker 2: more chilid and going faster, and I was like, maybe
Speaker 2: I should tell it to leave, and then maybe I
Speaker 2: should say the Lord's Prayer. And then the other side
Speaker 2: of me was like, you've seen too many fucking horror movies.
Speaker 2: So then I was like, okay, I'll just say the
Speaker 2: Lord's Prayer. And so then I was like in my head, wait,
Speaker 2: how does it go? And then and then finally I
Speaker 2: was like daily Beloved. And then I was like, fuck shit,
Speaker 2: that's not the Lord's prayer.
Speaker 1: That's like.
Speaker 2: France, it's a wedding. It's a funeral. Four weddings and
Speaker 2: a funeral purple rain. So that so then I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: how do I not? And I started going down a
Speaker 2: shame spiral. Why do I not know?
Speaker 1: What I know?
Speaker 2: But even like Susie in the Bandchies did it. I
Speaker 2: mean it's not you know, it's not like I was
Speaker 2: raised in the church, but I mean, come on, it's
Speaker 2: the Lord's prayer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then I was like, oh, yeah, our father I
Speaker 2: didn't have it, and all I can remember was our
Speaker 2: father written and hollowed be thy name. So then I
Speaker 2: was like, fucking come on, get it together, get it together.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, I never do this either,
Speaker 2: because really, if I didn't remember the Lord's prayer, why
Speaker 2: would I say what? I blurreted it up and just said,
Speaker 2: in a really butch voice, in the name of Jesus Christ,
Speaker 2: you have to leave right now. Okay. I just got
Speaker 2: total goosebumps. A fucking there was a huge crack and
Speaker 2: a hole opened up on the look. I am having
Speaker 2: goosebumps all over. Oh my, I've told the story a
Speaker 2: million times. It opened up on the ceiling with this
Speaker 2: giant crack. The mist started swirling around it faster and
Speaker 2: faster and making our motions here that you guys can't
Speaker 2: see on the air, I'm like, and then it it
Speaker 2: like it broke into two. They went and came down
Speaker 2: and then zoomed back up in the ceiling, and then
Speaker 2: the fucking hole closed up with a louder crack, and
Speaker 2: then I like jumped out of bed it and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my fucking god, oh my god. And
Speaker 2: I turned on all the lights in the house and
Speaker 2: the bathroom, in the kitchen, I turned on the TV,
Speaker 2: I turned on the computer, I turned on the radio,
Speaker 2: I turned on everything, and I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: And I looked at the clock and it was three
Speaker 2: thirty three, which is really supposed to be the witching hour. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, I'm still having goosebumps. I
Speaker 2: mean that this was really like one of the weirdest
Speaker 2: fucking things that ever happened to me. So I was
Speaker 2: like sitting there, rocking like a mental patient on throsen
Speaker 2: and I was like, I can't call anybody, because anybody
Speaker 2: I know from partying like in the olden daisis king
Speaker 2: to think I'm fucking higher than shit, and I.
Speaker 1: Can't and I get back out something and.
Speaker 2: I can't wake someone up at this hour to go
Speaker 2: A portal just opened up my ceiling. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: you know, like because the two girls that I do
Speaker 2: the most paranormal investiations with are both moms, Like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, There's just no way. So I
Speaker 2: was just pacing around and being like super horrified time
Speaker 2: I know. Well, then then when it got light, I
Speaker 2: was calling everybody, you know, but I would not go
Speaker 2: back into the bedroom until like nine thirty in the morning.
Speaker 2: Like until way off, how do you explain it? I
Speaker 2: have no fucking idea. But then, okay, well my house
Speaker 2: is one hundred and ten years old and it's super haunted.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I've had you know those you know
Speaker 2: those wooden hangers you steal from hotels, Like you don't
Speaker 2: buy them, you always steal them from hotels. Yeah, of
Speaker 2: course you do.
Speaker 1: No wire hangers.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, it's John coffered the seal of approval on
Speaker 2: these ones. So anyway, I was sitting there and I
Speaker 2: could see my cats like tracing something, like all of
Speaker 2: them in the hallway, and the hallway has always had
Speaker 2: even in the days of flip phones, if you tried
Speaker 2: to take a video on those crappy little screens, you
Speaker 2: could see stuff moving in the hallway.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Anyway, all of a sudden, one of the hangars just
Speaker 2: like busted in half with this huge crack and like
Speaker 2: flew down there. Until then I got up and I
Speaker 2: started yelling, you motherfuckers. I know that you were here
Speaker 2: before me. I know you live here, but can you
Speaker 2: please just like you can stay here. You're not doing
Speaker 2: anything bad, but do not scare my cats. I was
Speaker 2: like yelling, like a like a now I know, so
Speaker 2: they come down.
Speaker 1: Do you know who haunts it?
Speaker 2: Wait? No, this is no I don't know who. I wait.
Speaker 2: I was going to tell you another story about it.
Speaker 2: So anyway, in the front around this same time when
Speaker 2: when this portal opened up, so there was all these
Speaker 2: people that worked up at the stables all the way
Speaker 2: up at the top of Beechwood on the Hollywood Hills,
Speaker 2: you know, and those staples are haunted too, by the way. Anyway,
Speaker 2: they lead the rides over here to Burbank, and you know,
Speaker 2: those people don't live there anymore. But two of them
Speaker 2: were in the big cloth backtub upstairs. It was like
Speaker 2: a guy and his girl and they were wasted. And
Speaker 2: this was like in the middle of the day and
Speaker 2: he saw this. He noticed for the first time, this
Speaker 2: little outline in the door, and he tried to he
Speaker 2: was like, hey to his girlfriend, it looks like there's
Speaker 2: a secret room there. And they were all high and shit.
Speaker 2: So he was trying to porpoise his way over her
Speaker 2: and splashing water all over and he said, and so
Speaker 2: she was turning around. He said, right here, and he
Speaker 2: touched it, and the panel fell open, and there was
Speaker 2: a secret room in there that nobody knew about, and
Speaker 2: it had it had all these boxes of glass shot needles,
Speaker 2: which I think they stopped using in the late fifties
Speaker 2: or early sixties, and like all these diaries about weird
Speaker 2: crazy drug addiction stuff and magic. And so they came
Speaker 2: over banging on my door, going look at this, look
Speaker 2: at this, look at this, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck? And it came up there and none
Speaker 2: of us knew that that room was there, and I'd
Speaker 2: been living there for years already. So anyway, he came
Speaker 2: over after the this was after the portal incident, but
Speaker 2: he came. He came up to me and he's like,
Speaker 2: I think our house is haunted. And said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's definitely haunted. He's like, how do you know? And
Speaker 2: he told them the portal thing, and he's like, why
Speaker 2: didn't you call me? And I was like, dude, I
Speaker 2: don't even know you. I mean, I know that we're neighbors,
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna tell you that like a portal
Speaker 2: of He goes, well, now, you know, like if it
Speaker 2: happens again, you could call me. I was like, okay, think.
Speaker 1: Wow, I want to know the history.
Speaker 2: I I know I was oh that Another time a
Speaker 2: plumber came there to fix the plumbing and he only
Speaker 2: spoke Spanish and he was under this crawl space in
Speaker 2: the house and then in reverse commando style and we're
Speaker 2: not talking about the commando underwear things, right, he had
Speaker 2: to crawl out straight out, like on his belly with
Speaker 2: his feet first. So it took him a while to
Speaker 2: get out of there. In the cities, he got out
Speaker 2: where the crowdspace wise, he was making the Son of
Speaker 2: the crossing the Maria Santa Maria, Santa Maria Sa And
Speaker 2: next thing you know, the landlord and like l a
Speaker 2: PD detectives were there because they found human.
Speaker 1: Me, they found human in your home now in the.
Speaker 2: Class space and the dirt under it. But yes, what
Speaker 2: did they like what was skeleton? A real old skeleton what? Yeah,
Speaker 2: well they wouldn't tell us anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know much about this, but like, like
Speaker 1: I feel like there's always that scene in the movie
Speaker 1: where they go to the library and they look at
Speaker 1: those old newspaper clippings and stuff. How do you find
Speaker 1: out the history?
Speaker 2: Because it's all I.
Speaker 1: Mean, they're not gonna put that on zillow dot com.
Speaker 2: No, No, you know, how hyphenated you said, I am, Yes,
Speaker 2: I am. You can go to like the Hall of
Speaker 2: Records and look up who owned it and who lived
Speaker 2: there and all that stuff, because I already did tons
Speaker 2: of Internet searches, and I mean it definitely doesn't come
Speaker 2: up on the cello, but it just doesn't come up
Speaker 2: anywhere else. But you can at least have a history
Speaker 2: of like who lived there or what might have happened. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the lady they used to live next door to us
Speaker 2: had lived there for decades and she used to tell
Speaker 2: me stuff about the people that that, uh you know,
Speaker 2: lived there, like way long ago.
Speaker 1: Wait, we have to get into I mean, a whole
Speaker 1: other podcast would be hearing about the punk rock stories,
Speaker 1: because even just looking at your Instagram, it's like a
Speaker 1: Forrest Gump level of like you were there when that
Speaker 1: happened and here and that, like the pictures of you
Speaker 1: with Iggy Pop and Blinda Carlisle and like it's so rad.
Speaker 1: So did you in those days? Were there punk rock
Speaker 1: ghosts going on? Did you have experiences?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, they're okay, yes we did, like.
Speaker 1: Because I'm obsessed with that time.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I know, I guess a lot of people.
Speaker 2: I know I used to. I mean, this is going
Speaker 2: to sound really weird. I used to post stuff like
Speaker 2: that a few years ago occasionally, and nobody gave a.
Speaker 1: Fun I've always known that.
Speaker 2: Now now people are like really, like, like so into it.
Speaker 1: And you're in the books and stuff. When people write
Speaker 1: the history books about La Punk Rock, your name is
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then you know about More Fun in
Speaker 2: the New World and Under the Big Black Sun, the
Speaker 2: two books that John Doe and Tom Desavio just put out.
Speaker 2: Everyone wrote their own chapters. So I had a chapter
Speaker 2: in both books. And this is I mean, like everyone
Speaker 2: you could think of that lived through those times. So
Speaker 2: this story is in it, but I'll tell it on
Speaker 2: the air. Anyway. I lived at a punk house called
Speaker 2: Disgrayland and it was super famous. So it was owned
Speaker 2: by Mickey Hargate, who was Jane Mansfield's by the Flower
Speaker 2: x ex husband. That's his son doing the flowers. That's
Speaker 2: Mariska's sister, and Mariska Hargate on I can't remember what
Speaker 2: detective versus I kind.
Speaker 1: Of show, yeah, one of those yeah, yeah like that.
Speaker 2: Anyway, she's his daughter too. But the place right next
Speaker 2: to the disgrace lund was Criswell Predicts owned it and
Speaker 2: it was a psychic and they had a bomb shelter.
Speaker 1: Wait Criswell from like uh the ed Wood movies. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, him and Mickey har had twin du plexus
Speaker 2: and Chriswells had a Chriswells had a bomb shelter at
Speaker 2: like a you know, Cold War era like fifties bomb shelter.
Speaker 2: And when the police busted parties at our house, which
Speaker 2: was really like at least three times a fucking week,
Speaker 2: we would just we found out that the bomb shelter
Speaker 2: was open so you could get there quickly in case
Speaker 2: of an emergency. And there was like bunk beds and
Speaker 2: like survival crockers, so we just take a boom box
Speaker 2: down the steps and go down there to get bombed.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And who lived there?
Speaker 2: Okay, so everybody you could think of in punk rock
Speaker 2: and I'm not like making that up stayed there or crashed.
Speaker 1: There, but it was right off like sunset.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Kid Congo was the person that found it.
Speaker 2: Kid Congo from the Gun Club and the Cramps and
Speaker 2: Nick Cave and now the Pink Monkey Birds, he was
Speaker 2: the one that found it. Belinda Carlisle from The Go
Speaker 2: Gos was my roommate for like ages, like that was
Speaker 2: where the Go Gos went to number one and Disgrace
Speaker 2: Lund turned into like It's a hard Day's Night. So
Speaker 2: this story is about that time Belinda and I, Hi, babe,
Speaker 2: she listens. I know she's good. She's like just as
Speaker 2: obsessed with.
Speaker 1: Paranormal We gotta get hurt in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, okay. So I had a Ouiji board and
Speaker 2: we were but we took all these like you guys
Speaker 2: should look at my Instagram. It's Princess of Hollywood.
Speaker 1: It's so good at Prince.
Speaker 2: Have you seen those naked voodoo pictures of me and Belinda?
Speaker 1: I don't know you would know.
Speaker 2: But that like we were taking pictures as like naked
Speaker 2: voodoo queens wearing corsets and headdresses and had candles and stuff.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 2: So those were like in nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight,
Speaker 2: seventy nine.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I can't even I mean, I only mean this
Speaker 1: as a compliment. It's like shocking when I hear someone
Speaker 1: like you talk about, like back in the seventies nosing
Speaker 1: to me too.
Speaker 2: It's insane. It's like, fucking forty. It's over forty years ago.
Speaker 2: Every time I write the date on Instagram on a
Speaker 2: throwback Thursday, I do have a fall yeah, like operatic room,
Speaker 2: but so okay. So we decided we were gonna get
Speaker 2: my Ouiji board out and contact people who had been
Speaker 2: there because we wanted to know who lived there before.
Speaker 2: So it was like whizzing around you know, the board
Speaker 2: and like, is anybody there? And they were like, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm here, like spelling all that stuff, and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: can you tell us your names and all it's spelled
Speaker 2: out and you have to remember this was a punk
Speaker 2: house with people just crashing out it all the time.
Speaker 2: It spelled out house dirty, h I t y. And
Speaker 2: we looked at each other and Blinda was like, hey,
Speaker 2: that's that very nice and I was like fuck you.
Speaker 2: And then it wrote shut up sluts.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and they were like, okay, we're done.
Speaker 1: Who was that?
Speaker 2: We never found out that fy Me and Belinda were
Speaker 2: at this really nice restaurant in West Hollywood a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago and we were talking about like all
Speaker 2: the crazy haunted shit that was going on it this
Speaker 2: grace and she said, what about shut up slats And
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody in the in the restaurant
Speaker 2: knew that it was her, but I mean we just
Speaker 2: looked like two nice, quiet We were looking and behaving
Speaker 2: like two nice, quiet, middle aged ladies. Yeah, but then
Speaker 2: we were like fucking screaming and she's like, shut up slat.
Speaker 2: Just we were Okay, here's a fun Weiji bird story.
Speaker 2: Crystal RavenWolf and I were doing the Wigi boird a
Speaker 2: few years ago on it was on my father's birthday
Speaker 2: and he died. Like I hadn't seen him since I
Speaker 2: was four, and he died when I was twelve, so
Speaker 2: it was his birthday and I was trying to get
Speaker 2: in touch with them, and like he came through immediately,
Speaker 2: and Crystal was just writing it down because you have
Speaker 2: always have to keep track of who the you know
Speaker 2: what the letters arkistan him say, come really fast, and
Speaker 2: so he came through really fast and I was like Papa,
Speaker 2: and she's like, no, no, we have to check. And
Speaker 2: I was like, I know it's him, you know, because
Speaker 2: you didn't even know he spelled his whole name out immediately,
Speaker 2: but yeah, let's just check. So I was like, if
Speaker 2: this is really my father, how many wives did you have?
Speaker 2: And it went immediately to between five and six, and
Speaker 2: Crystal like goes, oh, come on, and I was like hi, Papa,
Speaker 2: and she's like really.
Speaker 1: I was like, yep, what is your advice for a
Speaker 1: Ouiji board? Okay?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, if anyone out there listening has
Speaker 2: not used one, you got to be super careful. A
Speaker 2: Wiji board really is just like opening up a door,
Speaker 2: a doorway to a place you may not understand, and
Speaker 2: is not always like at all friendly. Yeah, sometimes it is,
Speaker 2: but I mean seriously, this stuff about demons coming through
Speaker 2: or spirits lying and saying there's someone else, this is
Speaker 2: just like, I mean, like you wouldn't like answer a
Speaker 2: Nigerian scam email by by sending that you know, by
Speaker 2: paypallling them money right.
Speaker 1: It the internet, It could be anyway.
Speaker 2: It is texting for dead people.
Speaker 1: It's spiritual cat fishing.
Speaker 2: It's exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like booty call with.
Speaker 1: The dead Grinder.
Speaker 2: You know. I have an act about that in bulblic
Speaker 2: and candle.
Speaker 1: Right, welbook and candle ps is your It's a Burlaskin.
Speaker 2: It's all a call to burlask and we have psychics.
Speaker 2: So it's every It's the third Whitchy Wednesday of every
Speaker 2: month in La. You're in La. Yeah, and Elle said,
Speaker 2: if this is pertinent, it's on a Friday in October
Speaker 2: and we have the club all night.
Speaker 1: So we're all going to be following you on Instagram
Speaker 1: so they'll know.
Speaker 2: Okay. So anyway, so after we talked to to that person,
Speaker 2: then we were talking to another girl whose name was Bree.
Speaker 2: She was really, really nice, you know, we talked to
Speaker 2: her for a long time. I did not know until
Speaker 2: a couple of days they I found out that someone
Speaker 2: had committed suicide by jumping off the building next to
Speaker 2: where my house is. Oh wow, and her name was Brian.
Speaker 1: How wow? Wait? How soon was it that?
Speaker 2: It was like two days after.
Speaker 1: Two days after that? Oh wow?
Speaker 2: Anyway, I have her shoes and I think of her
Speaker 2: all the time. Hybri, Oh my god, that's insane.
Speaker 1: Do you live in Hollywood? Yeah, Oh my god. Well
Speaker 1: there's yeah, there's just so much chaos. I want to
Speaker 1: know what the history is of your house. I think
Speaker 1: about that constantly every time I'm in Hollywood. There's just
Speaker 1: who knows, I knows, Especially when you think about like
Speaker 1: the shady like nineteen twenties and thirties and forties of
Speaker 1: it all. Who knows how that body was that was
Speaker 1: buried underneath?
Speaker 2: No, I know, all of it's crazy. A friend of
Speaker 2: mine used to live in Poland Nagri's house, like the
Speaker 2: actress that almost killed herself because she was involved with
Speaker 2: like real Valentine. Oh, lived in her fucking whole house,
Speaker 2: like back when you could get giant apartments in semi
Speaker 2: slimmy areas of Hollywood for nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what is your You have a is it
Speaker 1: a gift? Sort of like Carrie? What do you call it?
Speaker 2: It's called the ePK or electro psychokinesis. I can see
Speaker 2: I'm in a good mood and I'm rested, so I'm
Speaker 2: not doing anything to the studio here, but people won't
Speaker 2: let me near their dat machines. I've like made movie
Speaker 2: lights explode. I've made light bulbs explode, street lights go out.
Speaker 2: I can like I can like put my hand towards
Speaker 2: where a car is parked and open like the electronic wax.
Speaker 1: You're kidding.
Speaker 2: I can make stuff go up and down, and I
Speaker 2: I had it all my life, and for a long
Speaker 2: time I was seriously in the closet about it until
Speaker 2: they found out that behind my back, everyone was calling
Speaker 2: me like fire starter and carry But I've been using
Speaker 2: it for a lot of years for energy healing, And
Speaker 2: even when I was little, I used to think I
Speaker 2: was praying over like a little bird or a chipmunk
Speaker 2: that I found, But it was really the energy healing.
Speaker 2: Like I've that I do it to animals all the time,
Speaker 2: I do it to people at work. I've some of
Speaker 2: the some of the people that I cleanse with it
Speaker 2: have have had like demonic possessions or like just someone
Speaker 2: put crazy dark energy and curses on the I mean,
Speaker 2: I know this, all of this sounds batshit, but I
Speaker 2: know you're into it, but my life is very not normal.
Speaker 1: That is insane. Like, so I let you.
Speaker 2: Feel some of it afterward taping this. Yeah, unless you
Speaker 2: want to experience it on the air.
Speaker 1: No, I think it's really cool. Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's see what do you I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna walk over. I'm just gonna like, well, it's not
Speaker 2: going to find anything if I do it too. Do
Speaker 2: you have any anything hurting on you?
Speaker 1: I mean, my wrists are kind of sore from playing guitar.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's do that. Then here I'm slithering.
Speaker 1: Out, okay hopefully. Yeah, you can still hear me, you can,
Speaker 1: we can hear you.
Speaker 2: Okay. So what I'm doing is I'm rubbing my hands
Speaker 2: together and then I'm gonna sort of when I do this,
Speaker 2: it feels electromagnetic. It feels electromagnetic to me, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna ask Ris if you feel anything. You may not
Speaker 2: at first, because everyone experiences it differently, and I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna tell you what they are because i don't want
Speaker 2: to color your perception of it. I just started doing it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got it. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: can feel anything. Can you feel anything? Uh?
Speaker 1: A little bit? I feel a little tingle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what most people say.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yes.
Speaker 2: So then I do it and I'm pushing it back
Speaker 2: into you and pulling it out kind of like like
Speaker 2: a kiddy making biscuits right now. But I'm waiting until
Speaker 2: i can get a really big blob of it. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you a sixth story about this in a minute too,
Speaker 2: when I'm done with you. This is a really good,
Speaker 2: weird one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like a uh yeah, tingle. It feels
Speaker 1: like a wave, like I felt like a little bit
Speaker 1: of a wave of a tinkle.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you have to drink a lot of
Speaker 2: water now, okay, because they just moved to a bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff around in you.
Speaker 1: That was wild. So you just do that for people,
Speaker 1: like you know, people can hit you up through your
Speaker 1: website or something and you can heal them that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I usually when I do this, I do it.
Speaker 2: I usually do it at the Green Man Store, which
Speaker 2: is in North Hollywood, and you can book an appointment
Speaker 2: there because they have these beautiful healing rooms with like
Speaker 2: massage you know, like massage tables, and I have all
Speaker 2: my tools there. I mean I have them at home too,
Speaker 2: but you'd be stepping over costumes and glitter and cat hair,
Speaker 2: although some people would probably prefer that, but.
Speaker 1: That feels comfortable to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But also when I work at the Green Mountains
Speaker 2: on Tuesdays and Thursdays, so that's kind of like my
Speaker 2: office hours for like long time energy healings.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, But so one time.
Speaker 2: I was doing this, I was doing this to a
Speaker 2: neighbor and she was like, my neck is fucking killing me.
Speaker 2: You've got to do something, and This was also at
Speaker 2: like two thirty in the morning. But she was the
Speaker 2: kind of person that you could like if she would
Speaker 2: have lived there. When the portal opened up, I could.
Speaker 1: Have talked, Oh, okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It was like someone that you know has your same
Speaker 2: hours and stuff. Anyway, So she laid down on the
Speaker 2: couch and I was pulling this stuff. And when I
Speaker 2: pull it, like I said to you before, like I
Speaker 2: feel like I get like my hands feel electromagnetic and
Speaker 2: I can pull stuff out. So he's backing up and
Speaker 2: backing up, and I was almost all the way at
Speaker 2: the you know, at the end of the room, and
Speaker 2: she was going, oh h like if you were eavesdropping
Speaker 2: from a nearby yard, you would have thought there was
Speaker 2: sex going on. She was like when I was pulling
Speaker 2: stuff out of it, she was like moaning and panting.
Speaker 2: But I was sitting here with this big blob of
Speaker 2: stuff and it was like all purple, and I was like,
Speaker 2: what the hell am I going to do with this?
Speaker 2: Because usually it feels like little tendrils or strands, and
Speaker 2: I felt like I was holding a log. So I
Speaker 2: just kind of like haphazardly through.
Speaker 1: It of energy towards it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so hoppazardly threw it towards my kitchen. And this
Speaker 2: was when I had really been like studying to direct it,
Speaker 2: you know, because that's another whole story. I started being
Speaker 2: able to channel it. But as soon as I threw
Speaker 2: it towards the kitchen, because I thought it would go outside.
Speaker 2: You know, my kitchen used to be a porch and
Speaker 2: the screen door was open. It didn't go outside all that.
Speaker 2: I have shop lights in the kitchen, and then they
Speaker 2: started flashing on and off going and it sounded like
Speaker 2: like like it sounded like when the disaster was at Chernobyl.
Speaker 2: It sounded it was that loud.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was making like a crazy mechanical buzzing noise. And
Speaker 2: then the lights were flashing on and off. And so
Speaker 2: I ran into the kitchen, you know, down these little stairs,
Speaker 2: and she was right behind me, and I heard it
Speaker 2: go what the fuck? And I was getting so like
Speaker 2: whacked out because for most of my life, when I
Speaker 2: would explode something or do something I would I would
Speaker 2: get so nervous because I knew, you know, I felt
Speaker 2: like I was gonna get called out for being weird, like,
Speaker 2: you know, but also I didn't understand it, and it
Speaker 2: scared me and made me full of anxiety. You know.
Speaker 1: I can imagine like as a kid totally.
Speaker 2: So sometimes I would like explode something and then I
Speaker 2: would just want to puke and I'd be like, please
Speaker 2: don't let it up and again. But so I got
Speaker 2: this feeling there, but this was because it was so
Speaker 2: intense and the lights were going on and off and
Speaker 2: this noise was so I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 2: I just threw my hands up in the air and
Speaker 2: yelled stop it at the top of my lungs, and
Speaker 2: it fucking stopped. And then I heard it behind me
Speaker 2: go like that, and then about two and a half
Speaker 2: feet the whole ceiling filled with about two and a
Speaker 2: half feet of smoke, like the entire ceiling, and it
Speaker 2: was rolling around there and then it started solidifying into
Speaker 2: like these check marks or like this is gonna sound
Speaker 2: down but like nikes swoosh things okay, And I was
Speaker 2: just looking at it, and then I was like, like
Speaker 2: really getting more than anxiety that I used to have
Speaker 2: when I was little, And so I didn't want to
Speaker 2: like tell her what was going on because I didn't
Speaker 2: want to call her viewer and I was like, hey, Chris,
Speaker 2: are you seeing this? And you go, oh, you mean
Speaker 2: all the fucking smoke on the ceiling?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, sponsored by Nike. Yes, that's in.
Speaker 1: I can't even I mean, I've never met somebody that
Speaker 1: has this. So but it's also you can do. It's
Speaker 1: triggered by your emotions as well, like but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody that has it? Okay, So here this.
Speaker 1: Is have you met other people?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. They're called a lot
Speaker 2: of people call them electric people or sliders. That's in
Speaker 2: capital letters S L I, small letters D E R S.
Speaker 2: Because for a long time, like if you're if you
Speaker 2: were studying parapsychology or if you were a serious person,
Speaker 2: you could call it. You would call it electro psychokinesis okay,
Speaker 2: But if you were just a Monday person, like a
Speaker 2: lay person, you would you would call it, you know, oh,
Speaker 2: electric people. Like I can't wear a watch anytime, like
Speaker 2: I can. I can just fry stuff, like sometimes I
Speaker 2: can fight it if I want to. Sometimes it's if
Speaker 2: I'm stressed. You know, I've talked to other people like
Speaker 2: I was at this dance festival and I was at
Speaker 2: a hotel with another girl and I see eleven eleven
Speaker 2: all the time and that that is insanity too like
Speaker 2: but so so, this girl came up to me and
Speaker 2: she was trying to figure out my place for dancing
Speaker 2: at the festival, and I said, I want slat eleven
Speaker 2: and she's like, you can't have it. And I was like,
Speaker 2: why it looks like it's open. She's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have it. And I said, well, eleven's my favorite number.
Speaker 2: She said it's my favorite number two. And then we
Speaker 2: both said I see eleven eleven all the time. And
Speaker 2: then we were like sister. And then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden we are like all the desk clerks at the
Speaker 2: hotel were like, hey, everything's down. The whole computer went down.
Speaker 2: And I was like, do you have the electrical thing too,
Speaker 2: and she's like, yeah, I do have it. And we're
Speaker 2: like we just walked it.
Speaker 1: WHOA you just walk away in slow motion? Does everything explode?
Speaker 2: Who would think that? Like we were doing it.
Speaker 1: My wrist feels amazing right now.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, we have out of time. There's so
Speaker 1: many things I want to ask you, because also I
Speaker 1: want to know about aliens. We've never even talked about
Speaker 1: aliens on this show. And you've seen aliens too.
Speaker 2: A couple of lifetimes. My first, yeah, when I was
Speaker 2: four was the first sighting because I wanted to stay
Speaker 2: up to see Lassie and this is an upstate New
Speaker 2: York when I was really small.
Speaker 1: Wait, let's use it as a tease for the next time,
Speaker 1: because I want to listen to some EVPs. Is that cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's listen to it.
Speaker 1: All right, it is time for EVP or ev Plase.
Speaker 1: So what I do pleasant is I go to YouTube
Speaker 1: and I find different ghost hunters. Evp's okay, and I
Speaker 1: like to have my guests guess what the ghost hunter
Speaker 1: believes that the EVP is saying.
Speaker 2: He didn't go to one of mine?
Speaker 1: Right, No, do you have some on YouTube?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's under ghost girls.
Speaker 1: So uh, the first one. And and you know, I've
Speaker 1: only had a few actual paranormal investigators here, so I'd
Speaker 1: love to hear an expert's opinion. I think I found
Speaker 1: some good ones. This first one came from someone on
Speaker 1: YouTube named Truth in Evidence TV, and it's in Calhoun's
Speaker 1: Square in Savannah.
Speaker 2: Georgia, Savannah hunted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Okay, So here's the first one. Okay,
Speaker 1: so there is a voice in all that chaos talking
Speaker 1: tell me I see her one more time.
Speaker 2: It sounds like she's saying no at first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that.
Speaker 2: I can't hear that noise. I don't know what that
Speaker 2: noise is. That's weird. Is that like, so was in
Speaker 2: the middle of a time square?
Speaker 1: I think so that is not much context.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean that if there was like any
Speaker 2: cars going by and we don't know that. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I don't. It sounds like she's.
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, okay, Well here's some options. Is it? Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm with the bands? B I mean it was a groupie.
Speaker 1: I don't know. B. No, you don't understand C. No,
Speaker 1: I'm really a man. Maybe it was a drag queen.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was a drag queen like in the
Speaker 2: Garden of Good and Evil or d is it just y?
Speaker 2: It sounds like, wait, what was the last option? No,
Speaker 2: that was the drag queen.
Speaker 1: No, I'm really a man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's what it was, but it
Speaker 2: was No, I'm really something or no something.
Speaker 1: Well they believe it's no, you don't understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Remember I said no, and don't heard it.
Speaker 1: Hear it again? No, yeah, I could totally hear No,
Speaker 1: you don't understand now, it could be It could be
Speaker 1: either like some kind of reenact what do you call that?
Speaker 1: A ghost is like you know, you're hearing a moment
Speaker 1: from the ghost life.
Speaker 2: Like like it's like an energetic imprint.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like it could be something like that, or
Speaker 1: maybe it's a ghost that's telling the ghost hunters like, no,
Speaker 1: you understand that a lot like.
Speaker 2: A real person to me. That good. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: because it sounds like a young person and had the
Speaker 2: inflection of like a reality shows.
Speaker 1: So you don't understand now.
Speaker 2: It really did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because a lot of times.
Speaker 2: When you get an EVP, it it will it'll from
Speaker 2: a spirit. It'll sound more like timmy and metallic.
Speaker 1: But that one was really well, we have another one.
Speaker 2: It was clear. Yeah, let's listen to another one. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's someone that died recently.
Speaker 1: It could be. Yeah. This one is from somebody named
Speaker 1: Paranormal Proof and it is at the Ghost Whole Mine,
Speaker 1: which is an abandoned gold mine in Mount Kutha, Queensland, Australia. Wow, okay,
Speaker 1: what is this ghost saying?
Speaker 2: That was creepy.
Speaker 1: I listened to that one last night.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, I just got creeped out.
Speaker 1: I got major chills. You can also your.
Speaker 2: Crickets in the that's super creepy and he guesses super creepy.
Speaker 1: Then I died and then I died. Okay, is it
Speaker 1: a curly fries B good die? You know it's.
Speaker 2: Australian dingo ate my baby's number?
Speaker 1: Is it C Huggin dos or D You're gonna die?
Speaker 2: Oh, you're gonna die. I thought it was like then
Speaker 2: I died, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Listen again, this is so scary. I don't like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So on the on the ghost Girls stuff and
Speaker 2: on YouTube. Yeah, there's a few different We were investigating
Speaker 2: at the suicide bridge in Pasadena.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, every time I drive over that, I think
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: They were they were you can see me getting flipped
Speaker 2: out on film. It's it was saying get out and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was wining us.
Speaker 1: Oh because like so many people have jumped off of it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, even and workers were killed when they were
Speaker 2: making their bridge.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, pleasant, we have to wrap this up.
Speaker 1: There is just so much to talk about, and I
Speaker 1: know that we've I know we haven't even talked about like,
Speaker 1: so wait wait, we had one last thing that we
Speaker 1: have to squeeze in here is so you've been mentioned
Speaker 1: on the show before because Selene, our friend Selena Luna,
Speaker 1: had her bachelorette party at Casita del Kampa where I'm
Speaker 1: also doing our live Ghosted show on October nineteenth, and
Speaker 1: you she she came to you and and because she
Speaker 1: wanted to do a paranormal investigation, and you told her
Speaker 1: that that's where you guys should go. Have you had
Speaker 1: experiences there?
Speaker 2: Yes? Oh my god. Casita del Campo is so haunted.
Speaker 2: We looked up a little bit of stuff about it,
Speaker 2: but there was like there was like I can't I
Speaker 2: am not remembering this off the top of my head.
Speaker 2: It was either like a cook or someone that was
Speaker 2: working there.
Speaker 1: I heard so many stories. Yeah, I don't know what's that.
Speaker 2: Let's just put it this way. I was investigating it
Speaker 2: with Shana Leilani, the girl that you know is my
Speaker 2: co producer, and Bellbooken Candle.
Speaker 1: This was the Selenae time, right, Yeah, yeah, there was.
Speaker 2: A Selenae time and then we did another sounds there.
Speaker 2: But when when I came home from it, I mean
Speaker 2: that one the Ouiji words we're talking around, but a
Speaker 2: few days later. You always have to rule out the mundane.
Speaker 2: But then I said, really like, this is a common
Speaker 2: thing that people that do paranormal investigations. I was like,
Speaker 2: I can't tell if I have a cold or an attachment.
Speaker 2: Oh no, you know, because you always have to rule
Speaker 2: out the mundane stuff first. But yeah, there was a
Speaker 2: there was activity when Seleni was there, and it was
Speaker 2: also a bunch of other like people.
Speaker 1: But you think a spirit or something attached themselves to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's happened before.
Speaker 1: At Casita Camp.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, weird. But they can do that from anywhere,
Speaker 2: like if they if they like, when you're doing a
Speaker 2: paranormal investigation, spirits need energy and they can try to
Speaker 2: get it from you, but a lot of times they'll
Speaker 2: take it from lights or from any electrical source. So
Speaker 2: when you're doing a when you're doing a paranormal investigation
Speaker 2: anywhere it's inside, you have to sweep for like nests
Speaker 2: of cords, like right here, this would light up all
Speaker 2: that this like little mess on the floor here would
Speaker 2: light up all the equipment on itself. So you always
Speaker 2: have to rule out the mundane stuff. And that's why
Speaker 2: I was saying, I can't I can't figure out if
Speaker 2: I have a cold or an attachment, because it was
Speaker 2: totally conceivable that I would have a cold or be
Speaker 2: having a bad allergy day. But you know, if you're
Speaker 2: taking medicine and it doesn't go away, then maybe you're
Speaker 2: having an attachment.
Speaker 1: Interest saying Okay, I'll keep that in mind, but you
Speaker 1: definitely think that place is haunted?
Speaker 2: Oh full on? And also else did all right?
Speaker 1: Tell us again where we can find you and everything?
Speaker 1: I mean, because people again could hire you to do
Speaker 1: taro or healing, yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2: Of things, yeah, or house cleansing all in Hollywood. Yeah right, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I would travel, but that is to be negotiated. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I live in LA. Just keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: If you want to book anything I can do distance healing.
Speaker 2: You can find me at pleasantgaman dot com, p L
Speaker 2: e A s A n T g e h M
Speaker 2: as in man a and as in Nancy dot com.
Speaker 2: And you can find me on Instagram like post crazy
Speaker 2: stuff there all the time. It's all witchy and punk rock,
Speaker 2: and some of it's really glamorous and some of it's
Speaker 2: really scary. And also that's Princess of Hollywood. I'm also
Speaker 2: on Twitter as Pleasant Game in one and also the
Speaker 2: Divination Nation is on Twitter and it's on it's on Facebook,
Speaker 2: and also Bellbook and Candle b E L L E
Speaker 2: Book and Candle has its own Instagram. And that's what
Speaker 2: the underscores. It's my cult burlesque show that I run
Speaker 2: with Shana Leilani.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much I'm with y'all over the web.
Speaker 1: And for people that love your story telling that you've showed.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have a blog too, Yeah yeah, multiple books, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've got lots of books. You can get their books
Speaker 2: at pleasant game in dot com or I have a
Speaker 2: blog if you want to see some of the stories
Speaker 2: now there, you know, there's quite a few up there
Speaker 2: that is Pleasantgaman dot blogspot dot com.
Speaker 1: Love it well, how about that that was Pleasant Gaming
Speaker 1: and her ability to shut down electronics and lights incredible,
Speaker 1: incredible and what an honored to speak with her. So again,
Speaker 1: she will be at the live show now. I just
Speaker 1: checked and there are literally a handful of tickets left
Speaker 1: for the live show. So if you have not gotten
Speaker 1: ticket yet, you can go to the link in my
Speaker 1: Instagram bio, or you can go to the Cavernclubtheater dot
Speaker 1: com and you can get your tickets there. So while
Speaker 1: supplies last, it'll certainly be completely sold out, which I
Speaker 1: can't wait. And that live show is October nineteenth at
Speaker 1: the Cavern Club Theater. Also that weekend, which is my
Speaker 1: birthday weekend. On the Sunday, which is the twentieth, my
Speaker 1: actual literal birthday, I will be An Oxnard at Levity
Speaker 1: Live doing Ross's Dragtastic Bubbly Brunch. I will be hosting
Speaker 1: it and guess who else is going to be there.
Speaker 1: Former podcast guest Jasmine Masters, She'll be there, so I
Speaker 1: hope to see if you could make it. Please join
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Speaker 1: If you have a ghost story, I would love it
Speaker 1: if you could leave it in a five star review
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Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,
Speaker 1: don't haunt me. Hey back star bands on a podcast network.