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Speaker 1: And she'll be there and she we haven't figured out

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, I am joined by a true I mean,

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Speaker 2: You bring all the equipment, all the equipment, I bring

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Speaker 2: You want to talk to hot girls? And the almost immediately.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and moms like, who had been very calm and

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Speaker 1: Ten Oh my god, that's how I'm going to be

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Speaker 2: Totally? They'll talk back?

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Speaker 1: Well, how would you describe what I'm wearing right now?

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Speaker 1: But you know what's okay. So I always I talked

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Speaker 2: And then so one part of me, and this isn't

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Speaker 2: total goosebumps. A fucking there was a huge crack and

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Speaker 2: I can't wake someone up at this hour to go

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Speaker 2: Like until way off, how do you explain it? I

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I've had you know those you know

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, it's John coffered the seal of approval on

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Speaker 2: Anyway, all of a sudden, one of the hangars just

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Speaker 2: started yelling, you motherfuckers. I know that you were here

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Speaker 2: please just like you can stay here. You're not doing

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Speaker 1: Do you know who haunts it?

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Speaker 2: Wait? No, this is no I don't know who. I wait.

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Speaker 2: was like, hey to his girlfriend, it looks like there's

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Speaker 2: So he was trying to porpoise his way over her

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Speaker 2: and splashing water all over and he said, and so

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Speaker 2: touched it, and the panel fell open, and there was

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Speaker 2: it had it had all these boxes of glass shot needles,

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Speaker 2: what the fuck? And it came up there and none

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Speaker 2: didn't you call me? And I was like, dude, I

433
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 2: don't even know you. I mean, I know that we're neighbors,

434
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna tell you that like a portal

435
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: of He goes, well, now, you know, like if it

436
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: happens again, you could call me. I was like, okay, think.

437
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: Wow, I want to know the history.

438
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: I I know I was oh that Another time a

439
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: plumber came there to fix the plumbing and he only

440
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: spoke Spanish and he was under this crawl space in

441
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 2: the house and then in reverse commando style and we're

442
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: not talking about the commando underwear things, right, he had

443
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 2: to crawl out straight out, like on his belly with

444
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: his feet first. So it took him a while to

445
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: get out of there. In the cities, he got out

446
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: where the crowdspace wise, he was making the Son of

447
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 2: the crossing the Maria Santa Maria, Santa Maria Sa And

448
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: next thing you know, the landlord and like l a

449
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 2: PD detectives were there because they found human.

450
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: Me, they found human in your home now in the.

451
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: Class space and the dirt under it. But yes, what

452
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 2: did they like what was skeleton? A real old skeleton what? Yeah,

453
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: well they wouldn't tell us anything.

454
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know much about this, but like, like

455
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: I feel like there's always that scene in the movie

456
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: where they go to the library and they look at

457
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: those old newspaper clippings and stuff. How do you find

458
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: out the history?

459
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 2: Because it's all I.

460
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: Mean, they're not gonna put that on zillow dot com.

461
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: No, No, you know, how hyphenated you said, I am, Yes,

462
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: I am. You can go to like the Hall of

463
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: Records and look up who owned it and who lived

464
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: there and all that stuff, because I already did tons

465
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: of Internet searches, and I mean it definitely doesn't come

466
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: up on the cello, but it just doesn't come up

467
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: anywhere else. But you can at least have a history

468
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: of like who lived there or what might have happened. Yeah. Yeah,

469
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 2: the lady they used to live next door to us

470
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: had lived there for decades and she used to tell

471
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: me stuff about the people that that, uh you know,

472
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: lived there, like way long ago.

473
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: Wait, we have to get into I mean, a whole

474
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: other podcast would be hearing about the punk rock stories,

475
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: because even just looking at your Instagram, it's like a

476
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,239
Speaker 1: Forrest Gump level of like you were there when that

477
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: happened and here and that, like the pictures of you

478
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: with Iggy Pop and Blinda Carlisle and like it's so rad.

479
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: So did you in those days? Were there punk rock

480
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: ghosts going on? Did you have experiences?

481
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, they're okay, yes we did, like.

482
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: Because I'm obsessed with that time.

483
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I know, I guess a lot of people.

484
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: I know I used to. I mean, this is going

485
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: to sound really weird. I used to post stuff like

486
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: that a few years ago occasionally, and nobody gave a.

487
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: Fun I've always known that.

488
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: Now now people are like really, like, like so into it.

489
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: And you're in the books and stuff. When people write

490
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: the history books about La Punk Rock, your name is

491
00:24:59,560 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: in there.

492
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then you know about More Fun in

493
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: the New World and Under the Big Black Sun, the

494
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: two books that John Doe and Tom Desavio just put out.

495
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: Everyone wrote their own chapters. So I had a chapter

496
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: in both books. And this is I mean, like everyone

497
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: you could think of that lived through those times. So

498
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: this story is in it, but I'll tell it on

499
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: the air. Anyway. I lived at a punk house called

500
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: Disgrayland and it was super famous. So it was owned

501
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: by Mickey Hargate, who was Jane Mansfield's by the Flower

502
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: x ex husband. That's his son doing the flowers. That's

503
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: Mariska's sister, and Mariska Hargate on I can't remember what

504
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: detective versus I kind.

505
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: Of show, yeah, one of those yeah, yeah like that.

506
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: Anyway, she's his daughter too. But the place right next

507
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: to the disgrace lund was Criswell Predicts owned it and

508
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: it was a psychic and they had a bomb shelter.

509
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: Wait Criswell from like uh the ed Wood movies. Yeah yeah, yeah.

510
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, him and Mickey har had twin du plexus

511
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: and Chriswells had a Chriswells had a bomb shelter at

512
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: like a you know, Cold War era like fifties bomb shelter.

513
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: And when the police busted parties at our house, which

514
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: was really like at least three times a fucking week,

515
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: we would just we found out that the bomb shelter

516
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: was open so you could get there quickly in case

517
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: of an emergency. And there was like bunk beds and

518
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: like survival crockers, so we just take a boom box

519
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: down the steps and go down there to get bombed.

520
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And who lived there?

521
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so everybody you could think of in punk rock

522
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: and I'm not like making that up stayed there or crashed.

523
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: There, but it was right off like sunset.

524
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Kid Congo was the person that found it.

525
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: Kid Congo from the Gun Club and the Cramps and

526
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: Nick Cave and now the Pink Monkey Birds, he was

527
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: the one that found it. Belinda Carlisle from The Go

528
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Gos was my roommate for like ages, like that was

529
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: where the Go Gos went to number one and Disgrace

530
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: Lund turned into like It's a hard Day's Night. So

531
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: this story is about that time Belinda and I, Hi, babe,

532
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 2: she listens. I know she's good. She's like just as

533
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: obsessed with.

534
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Paranormal We gotta get hurt in there.

535
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, okay. So I had a Ouiji board and

536
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: we were but we took all these like you guys

537
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: should look at my Instagram. It's Princess of Hollywood.

538
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: It's so good at Prince.

539
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: Have you seen those naked voodoo pictures of me and Belinda?

540
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't know you would know.

541
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: But that like we were taking pictures as like naked

542
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: voodoo queens wearing corsets and headdresses and had candles and stuff.

543
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: Amazing.

544
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: So those were like in nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight,

545
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: seventy nine.

546
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: Anyway, I can't even I mean, I only mean this

547
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: as a compliment. It's like shocking when I hear someone

548
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: like you talk about, like back in the seventies nosing

549
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: to me too.

550
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: It's insane. It's like, fucking forty. It's over forty years ago.

551
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: Every time I write the date on Instagram on a

552
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: throwback Thursday, I do have a fall yeah, like operatic room,

553
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: but so okay. So we decided we were gonna get

554
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: my Ouiji board out and contact people who had been

555
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: there because we wanted to know who lived there before.

556
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: So it was like whizzing around you know, the board

557
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: and like, is anybody there? And they were like, yes, yes,

558
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm here, like spelling all that stuff, and I was like, well,

559
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: can you tell us your names and all it's spelled

560
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: out and you have to remember this was a punk

561
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: house with people just crashing out it all the time.

562
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: It spelled out house dirty, h I t y. And

563
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: we looked at each other and Blinda was like, hey,

564
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: that's that very nice and I was like fuck you.

565
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: And then it wrote shut up sluts.

566
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and they were like, okay, we're done.

567
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Who was that?

568
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: We never found out that fy Me and Belinda were

569
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: at this really nice restaurant in West Hollywood a couple

570
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 2: of years ago and we were talking about like all

571
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: the crazy haunted shit that was going on it this

572
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: grace and she said, what about shut up slats And

573
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody in the in the restaurant

574
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: knew that it was her, but I mean we just

575
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: looked like two nice, quiet We were looking and behaving

576
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: like two nice, quiet, middle aged ladies. Yeah, but then

577
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: we were like fucking screaming and she's like, shut up slat.

578
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: Just we were Okay, here's a fun Weiji bird story.

579
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: Crystal RavenWolf and I were doing the Wigi boird a

580
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: few years ago on it was on my father's birthday

581
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: and he died. Like I hadn't seen him since I

582
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: was four, and he died when I was twelve, so

583
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: it was his birthday and I was trying to get

584
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: in touch with them, and like he came through immediately,

585
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: and Crystal was just writing it down because you have

586
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: always have to keep track of who the you know

587
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: what the letters arkistan him say, come really fast, and

588
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: so he came through really fast and I was like Papa,

589
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: and she's like, no, no, we have to check. And

590
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: I was like, I know it's him, you know, because

591
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: you didn't even know he spelled his whole name out immediately,

592
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: but yeah, let's just check. So I was like, if

593
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: this is really my father, how many wives did you have?

594
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: And it went immediately to between five and six, and

595
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: Crystal like goes, oh, come on, and I was like hi, Papa,

596
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: and she's like really.

597
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: I was like, yep, what is your advice for a

598
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Ouiji board? Okay?

599
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, if anyone out there listening has

600
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: not used one, you got to be super careful. A

601
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: Wiji board really is just like opening up a door,

602
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: a doorway to a place you may not understand, and

603
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: is not always like at all friendly. Yeah, sometimes it is,

604
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: but I mean seriously, this stuff about demons coming through

605
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: or spirits lying and saying there's someone else, this is

606
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: just like, I mean, like you wouldn't like answer a

607
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: Nigerian scam email by by sending that you know, by

608
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: paypallling them money right.

609
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: It the internet, It could be anyway.

610
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: It is texting for dead people.

611
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: It's spiritual cat fishing.

612
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: It's exactly.

613
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

614
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like booty call with.

615
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: The dead Grinder.

616
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: You know. I have an act about that in bulblic

617
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: and candle.

618
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: Right, welbook and candle ps is your It's a Burlaskin.

619
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: It's all a call to burlask and we have psychics.

620
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: So it's every It's the third Whitchy Wednesday of every

621
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: month in La. You're in La. Yeah, and Elle said,

622
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: if this is pertinent, it's on a Friday in October

623
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: and we have the club all night.

624
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: So we're all going to be following you on Instagram

625
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: so they'll know.

626
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: Okay. So anyway, so after we talked to to that person,

627
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: then we were talking to another girl whose name was Bree.

628
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: She was really, really nice, you know, we talked to

629
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: her for a long time. I did not know until

630
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: a couple of days they I found out that someone

631
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: had committed suicide by jumping off the building next to

632
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: where my house is. Oh wow, and her name was Brian.

633
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: How wow? Wait? How soon was it that?

634
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: It was like two days after.

635
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: Two days after that? Oh wow?

636
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: Anyway, I have her shoes and I think of her

637
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: all the time. Hybri, Oh my god, that's insane.

638
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: Do you live in Hollywood? Yeah, Oh my god. Well

639
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: there's yeah, there's just so much chaos. I want to

640
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: know what the history is of your house. I think

641
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: about that constantly every time I'm in Hollywood. There's just

642
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: who knows, I knows, Especially when you think about like

643
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: the shady like nineteen twenties and thirties and forties of

644
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: it all. Who knows how that body was that was

645
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: buried underneath?

646
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: No, I know, all of it's crazy. A friend of

647
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: mine used to live in Poland Nagri's house, like the

648
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: actress that almost killed herself because she was involved with

649
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: like real Valentine. Oh, lived in her fucking whole house,

650
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: like back when you could get giant apartments in semi

651
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: slimmy areas of Hollywood for nothing.

652
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what is your You have a is it

653
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: a gift? Sort of like Carrie? What do you call it?

654
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: It's called the ePK or electro psychokinesis. I can see

655
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm in a good mood and I'm rested, so I'm

656
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: not doing anything to the studio here, but people won't

657
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: let me near their dat machines. I've like made movie

658
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: lights explode. I've made light bulbs explode, street lights go out.

659
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: I can like I can like put my hand towards

660
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: where a car is parked and open like the electronic wax.

661
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: You're kidding.

662
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: I can make stuff go up and down, and I

663
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: I had it all my life, and for a long

664
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: time I was seriously in the closet about it until

665
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: they found out that behind my back, everyone was calling

666
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: me like fire starter and carry But I've been using

667
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 2: it for a lot of years for energy healing, And

668
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: even when I was little, I used to think I

669
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: was praying over like a little bird or a chipmunk

670
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: that I found, But it was really the energy healing.

671
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: Like I've that I do it to animals all the time,

672
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: I do it to people at work. I've some of

673
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: the some of the people that I cleanse with it

674
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: have have had like demonic possessions or like just someone

675
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: put crazy dark energy and curses on the I mean,

676
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: I know this, all of this sounds batshit, but I

677
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: know you're into it, but my life is very not normal.

678
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: That is insane. Like, so I let you.

679
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: Feel some of it afterward taping this. Yeah, unless you

680
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: want to experience it on the air.

681
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: No, I think it's really cool. Yeah, let's do it.

682
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: Let's see what do you I'm.

683
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: Gonna walk over. I'm just gonna like, well, it's not

684
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: going to find anything if I do it too. Do

685
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: you have any anything hurting on you?

686
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, my wrists are kind of sore from playing guitar.

687
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's do that. Then here I'm slithering.

688
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: Out, okay hopefully. Yeah, you can still hear me, you can,

689
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: we can hear you.

690
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: Okay. So what I'm doing is I'm rubbing my hands

691
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: together and then I'm gonna sort of when I do this,

692
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: it feels electromagnetic. It feels electromagnetic to me, and I'm

693
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: gonna ask Ris if you feel anything. You may not

694
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: at first, because everyone experiences it differently, and I'm not

695
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: gonna tell you what they are because i don't want

696
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: to color your perception of it. I just started doing it.

697
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got it. I don't know if you

698
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: can feel anything. Can you feel anything? Uh?

699
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: A little bit? I feel a little tingle.

700
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what most people say.

701
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yes.

702
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: So then I do it and I'm pushing it back

703
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: into you and pulling it out kind of like like

704
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: a kiddy making biscuits right now. But I'm waiting until

705
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: i can get a really big blob of it. I'll

706
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: tell you a sixth story about this in a minute too,

707
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: when I'm done with you. This is a really good,

708
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: weird one.

709
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like a uh yeah, tingle. It feels

710
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: like a wave, like I felt like a little bit

711
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: of a wave of a tinkle.

712
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you have to drink a lot of

713
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 2: water now, okay, because they just moved to a bunch

714
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: of stuff around in you.

715
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: That was wild. So you just do that for people,

716
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: like you know, people can hit you up through your

717
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: website or something and you can heal them that way.

718
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I usually when I do this, I do it.

719
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: I usually do it at the Green Man Store, which

720
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: is in North Hollywood, and you can book an appointment

721
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: there because they have these beautiful healing rooms with like

722
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: massage you know, like massage tables, and I have all

723
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 2: my tools there. I mean I have them at home too,

724
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: but you'd be stepping over costumes and glitter and cat hair,

725
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: although some people would probably prefer that, but.

726
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: That feels comfortable to me.

727
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. But also when I work at the Green Mountains

728
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: on Tuesdays and Thursdays, so that's kind of like my

729
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: office hours for like long time energy healings.

730
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, But so one time.

731
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: I was doing this, I was doing this to a

732
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: neighbor and she was like, my neck is fucking killing me.

733
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: You've got to do something, and This was also at

734
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: like two thirty in the morning. But she was the

735
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: kind of person that you could like if she would

736
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: have lived there. When the portal opened up, I could.

737
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: Have talked, Oh, okay, you know what I mean.

738
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: It was like someone that you know has your same

739
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: hours and stuff. Anyway, So she laid down on the

740
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: couch and I was pulling this stuff. And when I

741
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: pull it, like I said to you before, like I

742
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: feel like I get like my hands feel electromagnetic and

743
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: I can pull stuff out. So he's backing up and

744
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: backing up, and I was almost all the way at

745
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: the you know, at the end of the room, and

746
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: she was going, oh h like if you were eavesdropping

747
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: from a nearby yard, you would have thought there was

748
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 2: sex going on. She was like when I was pulling

749
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: stuff out of it, she was like moaning and panting.

750
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: But I was sitting here with this big blob of

751
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: stuff and it was like all purple, and I was like,

752
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: what the hell am I going to do with this?

753
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: Because usually it feels like little tendrils or strands, and

754
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: I felt like I was holding a log. So I

755
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: just kind of like haphazardly through.

756
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: It of energy towards it.

757
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so hoppazardly threw it towards my kitchen. And this

758
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: was when I had really been like studying to direct it,

759
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, because that's another whole story. I started being

760
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: able to channel it. But as soon as I threw

761
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: it towards the kitchen, because I thought it would go outside.

762
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: You know, my kitchen used to be a porch and

763
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: the screen door was open. It didn't go outside all that.

764
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: I have shop lights in the kitchen, and then they

765
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: started flashing on and off going and it sounded like

766
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: like like it sounded like when the disaster was at Chernobyl.

767
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 2: It sounded it was that loud.

768
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: It was.

769
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: It was making like a crazy mechanical buzzing noise. And

770
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: then the lights were flashing on and off. And so

771
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: I ran into the kitchen, you know, down these little stairs,

772
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: and she was right behind me, and I heard it

773
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: go what the fuck? And I was getting so like

774
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: whacked out because for most of my life, when I

775
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 2: would explode something or do something I would I would

776
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: get so nervous because I knew, you know, I felt

777
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: like I was gonna get called out for being weird, like,

778
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: you know, but also I didn't understand it, and it

779
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: scared me and made me full of anxiety. You know.

780
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: I can imagine like as a kid totally.

781
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: So sometimes I would like explode something and then I

782
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 2: would just want to puke and I'd be like, please

783
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: don't let it up and again. But so I got

784
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: this feeling there, but this was because it was so

785
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: intense and the lights were going on and off and

786
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: this noise was so I didn't know what to do.

787
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: I just threw my hands up in the air and

788
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: yelled stop it at the top of my lungs, and

789
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: it fucking stopped. And then I heard it behind me

790
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: go like that, and then about two and a half

791
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: feet the whole ceiling filled with about two and a

792
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: half feet of smoke, like the entire ceiling, and it

793
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: was rolling around there and then it started solidifying into

794
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 2: like these check marks or like this is gonna sound

795
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: down but like nikes swoosh things okay, And I was

796
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: just looking at it, and then I was like, like

797
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: really getting more than anxiety that I used to have

798
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: when I was little, And so I didn't want to

799
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: like tell her what was going on because I didn't

800
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: want to call her viewer and I was like, hey, Chris,

801
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: are you seeing this? And you go, oh, you mean

802
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: all the fucking smoke on the ceiling?

803
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, sponsored by Nike. Yes, that's in.

804
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: I can't even I mean, I've never met somebody that

805
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: has this. So but it's also you can do. It's

806
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: triggered by your emotions as well, like but.

807
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody that has it? Okay, So here this.

808
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: Is have you met other people?

809
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. They're called a lot

810
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: of people call them electric people or sliders. That's in

811
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: capital letters S L I, small letters D E R S.

812
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: Because for a long time, like if you're if you

813
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: were studying parapsychology or if you were a serious person,

814
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: you could call it. You would call it electro psychokinesis okay,

815
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: But if you were just a Monday person, like a

816
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: lay person, you would you would call it, you know, oh,

817
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: electric people. Like I can't wear a watch anytime, like

818
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: I can. I can just fry stuff, like sometimes I

819
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: can fight it if I want to. Sometimes it's if

820
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: I'm stressed. You know, I've talked to other people like

821
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: I was at this dance festival and I was at

822
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: a hotel with another girl and I see eleven eleven

823
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: all the time and that that is insanity too like

824
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: but so so, this girl came up to me and

825
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: she was trying to figure out my place for dancing

826
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: at the festival, and I said, I want slat eleven

827
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: and she's like, you can't have it. And I was like,

828
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: why it looks like it's open. She's like, I'm gonna

829
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: have it. And I said, well, eleven's my favorite number.

830
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: She said it's my favorite number two. And then we

831
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: both said I see eleven eleven all the time. And

832
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: then we were like sister. And then all of a

833
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: sudden we are like all the desk clerks at the

834
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: hotel were like, hey, everything's down. The whole computer went down.

835
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: And I was like, do you have the electrical thing too,

836
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: and she's like, yeah, I do have it. And we're

837
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: like we just walked it.

838
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: WHOA you just walk away in slow motion? Does everything explode?

839
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: Who would think that? Like we were doing it.

840
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: My wrist feels amazing right now.

841
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm so glad.

842
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, we have out of time. There's so

843
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: many things I want to ask you, because also I

844
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: want to know about aliens. We've never even talked about

845
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: aliens on this show. And you've seen aliens too.

846
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: A couple of lifetimes. My first, yeah, when I was

847
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 2: four was the first sighting because I wanted to stay

848
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: up to see Lassie and this is an upstate New

849
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: York when I was really small.

850
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: Wait, let's use it as a tease for the next time,

851
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: because I want to listen to some EVPs. Is that cool?

852
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's listen to it.

853
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: All right, it is time for EVP or ev Plase.

854
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: So what I do pleasant is I go to YouTube

855
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: and I find different ghost hunters. Evp's okay, and I

856
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: like to have my guests guess what the ghost hunter

857
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: believes that the EVP is saying.

858
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: He didn't go to one of mine?

859
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: Right, No, do you have some on YouTube?

860
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's under ghost girls.

861
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: So uh, the first one. And and you know, I've

862
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: only had a few actual paranormal investigators here, so I'd

863
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: love to hear an expert's opinion. I think I found

864
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: some good ones. This first one came from someone on

865
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: YouTube named Truth in Evidence TV, and it's in Calhoun's

866
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Square in Savannah.

867
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: Georgia, Savannah hunted.

868
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Okay, So here's the first one. Okay,

869
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: so there is a voice in all that chaos talking

870
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: tell me I see her one more time.

871
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: It sounds like she's saying no at first.

872
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that.

873
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: I can't hear that noise. I don't know what that

874
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: noise is. That's weird. Is that like, so was in

875
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: the middle of a time square?

876
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: I think so that is not much context.

877
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean that if there was like any

878
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: cars going by and we don't know that. Yeah, No,

879
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't. It sounds like she's.

880
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, okay, Well here's some options. Is it? Yo,

881
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm with the bands? B I mean it was a groupie.

882
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. B. No, you don't understand C. No,

883
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm really a man. Maybe it was a drag queen.

884
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was a drag queen like in the

885
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: Garden of Good and Evil or d is it just y?

886
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: It sounds like, wait, what was the last option? No,

887
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: that was the drag queen.

888
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: No, I'm really a man.

889
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's what it was, but it

890
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: was No, I'm really something or no something.

891
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: Well they believe it's no, you don't understand.

892
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Remember I said no, and don't heard it.

893
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: Hear it again? No, yeah, I could totally hear No,

894
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: you don't understand now, it could be It could be

895
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: either like some kind of reenact what do you call that?

896
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: A ghost is like you know, you're hearing a moment

897
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: from the ghost life.

898
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: Like like it's like an energetic imprint.

899
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like it could be something like that, or

900
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: maybe it's a ghost that's telling the ghost hunters like, no,

901
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: you understand that a lot like.

902
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: A real person to me. That good. Yeah, I mean

903
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: because it sounds like a young person and had the

904
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: inflection of like a reality shows.

905
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: So you don't understand now.

906
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: It really did.

907
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, because a lot of times.

908
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: When you get an EVP, it it will it'll from

909
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: a spirit. It'll sound more like timmy and metallic.

910
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: But that one was really well, we have another one.

911
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: It was clear. Yeah, let's listen to another one. I mean,

912
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's someone that died recently.

913
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: It could be. Yeah. This one is from somebody named

914
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: Paranormal Proof and it is at the Ghost Whole Mine,

915
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: which is an abandoned gold mine in Mount Kutha, Queensland, Australia. Wow, okay,

916
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: what is this ghost saying?

917
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: That was creepy.

918
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: I listened to that one last night.

919
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, I just got creeped out.

920
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 1: I got major chills. You can also your.

921
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 2: Crickets in the that's super creepy and he guesses super creepy.

922
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: Then I died and then I died. Okay, is it

923
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: a curly fries B good die? You know it's.

924
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: Australian dingo ate my baby's number?

925
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: Is it C Huggin dos or D You're gonna die?

926
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: Oh, you're gonna die. I thought it was like then

927
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: I died, but yeah.

928
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: Listen again, this is so scary. I don't like that.

929
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So on the on the ghost Girls stuff and

930
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: on YouTube. Yeah, there's a few different We were investigating

931
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: at the suicide bridge in Pasadena.

932
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, every time I drive over that, I think

933
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: about it.

934
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: They were they were you can see me getting flipped

935
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: out on film. It's it was saying get out and like, yeah,

936
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: it was wining us.

937
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: Oh because like so many people have jumped off of it.

938
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, even and workers were killed when they were

939
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: making their bridge.

940
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, pleasant, we have to wrap this up.

941
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: There is just so much to talk about, and I

942
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: know that we've I know we haven't even talked about like,

943
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: so wait wait, we had one last thing that we

944
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: have to squeeze in here is so you've been mentioned

945
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: on the show before because Selene, our friend Selena Luna,

946
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: had her bachelorette party at Casita del Kampa where I'm

947
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: also doing our live Ghosted show on October nineteenth, and

948
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: you she she came to you and and because she

949
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: wanted to do a paranormal investigation, and you told her

950
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: that that's where you guys should go. Have you had

951
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: experiences there?

952
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: Yes? Oh my god. Casita del Campo is so haunted.

953
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: We looked up a little bit of stuff about it,

954
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: but there was like there was like I can't I

955
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: am not remembering this off the top of my head.

956
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: It was either like a cook or someone that was

957
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: working there.

958
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: I heard so many stories. Yeah, I don't know what's that.

959
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: Let's just put it this way. I was investigating it

960
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: with Shana Leilani, the girl that you know is my

961
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 2: co producer, and Bellbooken Candle.

962
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: This was the Selenae time, right, Yeah, yeah, there was.

963
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: A Selenae time and then we did another sounds there.

964
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: But when when I came home from it, I mean

965
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: that one the Ouiji words we're talking around, but a

966
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: few days later. You always have to rule out the mundane.

967
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: But then I said, really like, this is a common

968
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: thing that people that do paranormal investigations. I was like,

969
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: I can't tell if I have a cold or an attachment.

970
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, you know, because you always have to rule

971
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: out the mundane stuff first. But yeah, there was a

972
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: there was activity when Seleni was there, and it was

973
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: also a bunch of other like people.

974
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: But you think a spirit or something attached themselves to you.

975
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's happened before.

976
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: At Casita Camp.

977
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, weird. But they can do that from anywhere,

978
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: like if they if they like, when you're doing a

979
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: paranormal investigation, spirits need energy and they can try to

980
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: get it from you, but a lot of times they'll

981
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: take it from lights or from any electrical source. So

982
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: when you're doing a when you're doing a paranormal investigation

983
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: anywhere it's inside, you have to sweep for like nests

984
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 2: of cords, like right here, this would light up all

985
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: that this like little mess on the floor here would

986
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: light up all the equipment on itself. So you always

987
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: have to rule out the mundane stuff. And that's why

988
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: I was saying, I can't I can't figure out if

989
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: I have a cold or an attachment, because it was

990
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: totally conceivable that I would have a cold or be

991
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: having a bad allergy day. But you know, if you're

992
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: taking medicine and it doesn't go away, then maybe you're

993
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: having an attachment.

994
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: Interest saying Okay, I'll keep that in mind, but you

995
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: definitely think that place is haunted?

996
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: Oh full on? And also else did all right?

997
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: Tell us again where we can find you and everything?

998
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean, because people again could hire you to do

999
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: taro or healing, yeah, a lot.

1000
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 2: Of things, yeah, or house cleansing all in Hollywood. Yeah right, yeah,

1001
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: I mean I would travel, but that is to be negotiated. Okay,

1002
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: so I live in LA. Just keep that in mind.

1003
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: If you want to book anything I can do distance healing.

1004
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 2: You can find me at pleasantgaman dot com, p L

1005
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: e A s A n T g e h M

1006
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: as in man a and as in Nancy dot com.

1007
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: And you can find me on Instagram like post crazy

1008
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: stuff there all the time. It's all witchy and punk rock,

1009
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: and some of it's really glamorous and some of it's

1010
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: really scary. And also that's Princess of Hollywood. I'm also

1011
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: on Twitter as Pleasant Game in one and also the

1012
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: Divination Nation is on Twitter and it's on it's on Facebook,

1013
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: and also Bellbook and Candle b E L L E

1014
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: Book and Candle has its own Instagram. And that's what

1015
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: the underscores. It's my cult burlesque show that I run

1016
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: with Shana Leilani.

1017
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: Cool.

1018
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much I'm with y'all over the web.

1019
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: And for people that love your story telling that you've showed.

1020
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have a blog too, Yeah yeah, multiple books, right, yeah,

1021
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: I've got lots of books. You can get their books

1022
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: at pleasant game in dot com or I have a

1023
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 2: blog if you want to see some of the stories

1024
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: now there, you know, there's quite a few up there

1025
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: that is Pleasantgaman dot blogspot dot com.

1026
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: Love it well, how about that that was Pleasant Gaming

1027
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: and her ability to shut down electronics and lights incredible,

1028
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: incredible and what an honored to speak with her. So again,

1029
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: she will be at the live show now. I just

1030
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: checked and there are literally a handful of tickets left

1031
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: for the live show. So if you have not gotten

1032
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: ticket yet, you can go to the link in my

1033
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: Instagram bio, or you can go to the Cavernclubtheater dot

1034
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: com and you can get your tickets there. So while

1035
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: supplies last, it'll certainly be completely sold out, which I

1036
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: can't wait. And that live show is October nineteenth at

1037
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: the Cavern Club Theater. Also that weekend, which is my

1038
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: birthday weekend. On the Sunday, which is the twentieth, my

1039
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: actual literal birthday, I will be An Oxnard at Levity

1040
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: Live doing Ross's Dragtastic Bubbly Brunch. I will be hosting

1041
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: it and guess who else is going to be there.

1042
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: Former podcast guest Jasmine Masters, She'll be there, so I

1043
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: hope to see if you could make it. Please join

1044
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: the Facebook group Ghosted by Roz dres Fales. We also

1045
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: have a Facebook page. I have my own Facebook page,

1046
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: Roz dress Vales, and I always want to become famous

1047
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: on Instagram one day, so if you could help me

1048
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: out with that and go to Instagram and follow me

1049
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: at Roz dress Fales, I'm on Cameo, Twitter, all the things.

1050
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: If you could please like and subscribe to the show.

1051
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: If you have a ghost story, I would love it

1052
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: if you could leave it in a five star review

1053
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, or you could send it to the

1054
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: Facebook group as well. I love you all, both living

1055
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,

1056
00:53:47,719 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: don't haunt me. Hey back star bands on a podcast network.