1 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Pros Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: your host, Dan Harris. Find me on Twitter at Dan 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Harris Hadi. It is week five, it is time for 4 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: our best bets, and here with me is a guy 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: you know, a guy you love, Scott Vogman. You know 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: him from the College Football podcast. You know him as 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: co hosted in this league podcast. Find him on Twitter 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: at Bogman Sports. Joining us straight from Victorian England. Bogman, 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: how are you today? 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: I'm definitely, you know, not the stereotypical person that loves 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: fantasy sports and sports living at home with mom. 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: So that's good. 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: You know, you know, you do what you gotta do 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: man to get bye. 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I can you 49 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: just send it to me and give away? 50 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it. 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: I'll win you want on Christine auction. Everything's so inexpensive 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: there anyway, who cares? All right, let's get into it again. 53 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: We have consensus lines over at bettingpros dot com, but 54 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: there are different books, so we will note that as well. Briefly, 55 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: let's recap last week. It was a good week for 56 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: our little podcast here. Pat Fitzmorris hit on the Jets 57 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: getting seven from the Titans, and he also said we 58 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: should sprinkle on the money line, which we did. 59 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 4: That went well, and the. 60 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Eagles and the Chiefs over fifty four, which that went 61 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: way over. He did miss on the Panthers getting four 62 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys. As for me, I hit on all 63 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: three of my best bets, the Ravens Broncos. 64 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: How's it going under forty? 65 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Under forty five and a half for the Ravens, Broncos, 66 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: Giants getting seven and half from the Saints, and the 67 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: Steelers Packers under forty five and a half. So I 68 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: am five and one over the last two weeks. So 69 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: if I do poorly hear it is Bogwin's fault. As 70 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: we generally know, bog when you were the guests again, 71 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: you were time traveling. 72 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 4: So please go ahead give us your best bet of 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 4: the weekend for the NFL. 74 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: My favorite one is the over on the New England 75 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: and Houston game, and it's not because I think these 76 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: offenses are going to be explosive at all. I expect 77 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: three and outs from Houston. I expect short fields for 78 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: New England, which sets up for easy touchdowns, probably some 79 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: turnovers as well. So I see this game playing out 80 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: as like a thirty five to seven something like that. 81 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: The overs thirty nine and a half, and it could 82 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: be even worse than that. And if we get some 83 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: garbage sign from Houston, which you don't see against Bill 84 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: Belichick a lot, but it can happen, I think it 85 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: goes way over that. So I think that number is 86 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: just a little bit too low. Knowing that both these 87 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: offenses aren't fantastic. I just think that you know, you're 88 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: gonna set up short fields for Belichick, He's gonna take advantage, 89 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: and he's gonna run up the score. 90 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: It's what he does well. 91 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Spoiler That is a very very low total, obviously, and 92 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: spoiler alert, my first pick will also be a total. 93 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: But I am actually gonna go under with my total. 94 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: But I will talk about this with this. I'm wondering 95 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: what you think of this bagman that I think that 96 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: the Texans may put up a little more of a 97 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: fight here, and not not that that goes against the 98 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: over whatsoever anything. 99 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: Probably it probably goes towards the over. 100 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, you've got a little bit 101 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: of a letdown spot here for the Patriots, where that 102 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: defense played so incredibly well, you got the Texans, which 103 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: I think I feel like the market is just generally 104 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: undervaluing because it's a short memory and you just saw 105 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: them get absolutely obliterated by the Bills. I think this 106 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: game could see some points on both sides here, and 107 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't be surprised if it, you know, 108 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: went over by you know, a hearty amount. I'm not 109 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: like wanting to do it. But I do feel like 110 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: the Texans are going to be able to put up, 111 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, a little more points. I feel like then 112 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: I think the general public is expecting. 113 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: What do you think. 114 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: I hope you're right. 115 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: I just have no trust and no faith in Davis 116 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: math And I didn't really like him coming out of 117 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: the draft anyway. 118 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: I thought he went too high. 119 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: It was the Texans first pick, and I don't think 120 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: they put him in very good positions here. You know, 121 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: his very first start was on short rest. Then his 122 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: next start was on the road against Buffalo, who was angry. 123 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: So and this this game against Bill Belichick, one of 124 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: the best chess piece masterminds in the history of the NFL. 125 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: Not very great. They're not putting it. They're not putting 126 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: him in a position to succeed here. So I hope 127 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: you're right. I hope we see some No, I would 128 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: love to get some fantasy production out of somebody in 129 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: not named Brandon Cooks. Brandon Cooks, even after the bad week, 130 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: is still overall pretty decent. And we get Ty Rod 131 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: back next week fingers crossed, hopefully, hopefully, But yeah, I mean, 132 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: I just don't see much fight from Houston, right Now. 133 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you on Mills, other than the 134 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: fact that I did think like he looked better than 135 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: I expected, I think against the Panthers in that Thursday 136 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: night game, because I don't have much right. 137 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he looked better on a no huddle, 138 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: So maybe he's going to put some of that in 139 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: there for him, Maybe a little hurry up offense, maybe 140 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: something like that play to his strengths. 141 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: But he wasn't that good at Stanford. 142 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: He was an enormous, like yeah, ninety nine point nine 143 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: nine nine two four seven recruit there. Just was never 144 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: played great there either, So I was just a little 145 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: leary on him coming in and he should not be 146 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: starting this early in his NFL career. 147 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: I completely agree with all of that, but I do 148 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: like the over. I do lean that way as well. 149 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: If I went somewhere, I am going to go with 150 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: the same total, but I am going to go under 151 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: despite how low it is. And it is the Steelers 152 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: Broncos at that same number thirty nine and a half. You 153 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: just heard me recap last week. I went under the 154 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Broncos game last week. They are now four and oh 155 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: toward the under, and I think there is a real 156 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: reason for that. I think they're going to be five 157 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: and out here to the ender again thirty nine and 158 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: a half. It's an incredibly small number of bagman as 159 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: we sort of talked about. But you can start with 160 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: the big basics, which is these are two very, very 161 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: solid defenses. The Broncos are seventh in defensive DVA and 162 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: waited defensive dv so they've played some cake matchups, but 163 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: obviously waited DVA takes. 164 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: That into account. 165 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: The Steelers are twenty second, but really where they've struggled 166 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: is their pass defense. Twenty third in defensive DVOA against 167 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: the past, but seventh in defensive DVOA against the run, 168 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: and again what was out for a couple of. 169 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: Those games, So that matters too. 170 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: And if you're struggling against the pass, the Broncos are 171 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: a pretty good matchup right now because they're middle of 172 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: the road. But again, no Jerry Judy, I think the 173 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: loss of kJ Handler is big, and not again I 174 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: said this last week, not because of his production, but 175 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: because it's the field stretcher that opens up these sort 176 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: of intermediate routes. Right for Tim Patrick, who I love, 177 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: for Courtland Sutton who I love, and without that stretch 178 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: in the field. I think it's really difficult for them 179 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: to get drives going unless they can run the ball effectively, 180 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: which again Melvin Gorn a little banged up, and again 181 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers have a strong run defense. And this is 182 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: to say nothing of the fact, Bagman, that we don't 183 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: even know if Teddy Bridgewater is going to play in 184 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: this game, right, I mean that is the thing. Like 185 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: it could be Drew Lack, he's progressing out of the concussion, 186 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: but we still don't know. So it's hard for me 187 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: to see either teams scoring points, especially with a pumped 188 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: up crowd. Well, certainly Denver scoring points with a pumped 189 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: up crowd. And for the Steelers, like we know how 190 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: bad the Steelers are offense, Yeah, like this has earned 191 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: how bad they are. They're twenty third in offensive pass DVA, 192 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: twenty seventh in offensive rushing DVOA. The offensive line is terrible, 193 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Ben is banged up, Claypool may not play. To me, Blagman, 194 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: I feel like there has to be a defensive scorer here, 195 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: or a turnover deep in someone's territory for this to 196 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: really put up points. I've been going with the unders 197 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: for the Broncos the whole year. I'm sticking with it 198 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: even with this especially because again, I just there's nothing 199 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: to get excited about with the Pittsburgh offense. 200 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: I picked the over make of my picks in this game, 201 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 3: but it's just because the number is so low for 202 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: both of these teams. 203 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: I'm a Steelers fan. They've got nothing on it. 204 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: Oh right, Ben can't throw the ball. 205 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: Down down the field. You know, he missed Juju for 206 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: two touchdowns. 207 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: Yes, last week, those wide open on that. 208 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he missed, you know, almost like Marquise Brown dropping 209 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: the ball a couple of weeks ago, which also played 210 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: towards the under. 211 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 212 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: So I understand where you're coming from on the under. 213 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Its specifically with uh these guys in Denver really banged up. 214 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh banged up too, but just bad on the offensive line. 215 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: So the one thing I was listened to a Steelers 216 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: podcast before we fired today, and there's this crazy stat 217 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: about Cam Hayward. With Cam Hayward on the field, Steelers 218 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: run defense three yards per carry. Without Cam Hayward on 219 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: the field eight point three per care. So that'sicly, he's questionable. 220 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: He's gonna play, He's going to play, but if he 221 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: has to leave early or something real ugly for Pittsburgh. 222 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: Boy, all right, that's a good point. I was assuming 223 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: that he's gonna play, But you're right, Like. 224 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 3: Cam Hayward, he sat down for five minutes, left the field, 225 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: came back after one snap like he plays through everything 226 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: he does. 227 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: Ironheads Son, you know, yeah. 228 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 4: All right, all right, let's get to your second bat. 229 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 4: What do you here? 230 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Green Bay minus three. 231 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,479 Speaker 3: I know they're on the road against Cincinnati, and Cincinnati 232 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: has looked pretty decent, but have they played anybody really? 233 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 234 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: They they should have lost to Jacksonville on short rest 235 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: at home. I don't like that they beat a bad 236 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh team. You know, they beat Minnesota in overtime, so 237 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: I get it. Cincinnati looks good, but Aaron Rodgers is 238 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: now clicking on all cylinders. I know this is a 239 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: road game for them, but I don't really care. I 240 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: think they're gonna go in there. They're gonna run down 241 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: Cincinnati's throat and they're gonna throw over their heads. 242 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: Cincinnati still has some banged up guys. 243 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 3: I know Jesse Bates is coming back, Woozy is a 244 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 3: little questionable, I think in this game as well. I 245 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: know we're gonna get you know, Jay R Alexander's gonna 246 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: miss this game for green Bay correct, which doesn't play 247 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: towards them, but Joe Mixon is out too, so I 248 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: think Cincinnati becomes fairly one dimensional as well. So I 249 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: think this Green Bay minus three is a little short, 250 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 3: and I like them on the road, and I love 251 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 3: that ESQ later of sadness since I'm a Steeler. 252 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: So what's interesting to me, Bagwin is that when I 253 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: looked at this, when Joe and I actually looked at 254 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: it on Monday, I think it was three and a 255 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: half at the time. And my guess is that this 256 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: is a sharp sort of the sharps are going to 257 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: be on the Bengals in this game, because I think 258 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: that probably the public is going to be backing the 259 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: Packers if it were three and a half, if it 260 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: bounce back to there, would you still like it there? 261 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: Or is it just that three? 262 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: Okay? 263 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: I think I think Green Bay just they're just going 264 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 3: to move the ball better. And I specifically like what 265 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: age we saw from ag dyllon last week. Once they 266 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: get a lead is in the fourth quarter, against tire defenses. 267 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: That is what that dude is built for. 268 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you give him the ball in the fourth quarter 269 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 3: and he runs over all those tired linemen and linebackers 270 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: and safeties. So I just I like what Green Bay 271 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: is doing. I think they're clicking right now. 272 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting. I'm not I don't 273 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: have a lean one way or the other on this game. 274 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: I because again, I think T Higgins is probably going 275 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: to make it back for this game, and I know 276 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: there's not gonna be Joe Mix and then we've seen 277 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: smaj p Ryan do. But I do think that the 278 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: Packers being down almost certainly down Jay R Alexander. I 279 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: don't know if he's actually been declared out yet, but 280 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: I assume he's going to miss. And with T Higgins 281 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: coming back, I mean, I think the Bengals are going 282 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: to be able to put up a lot of points here. 283 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: But I just I don't have a good feel for it. 284 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: So it's a stay away from me. But I like 285 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: where you're going. There's no way you like this game, 286 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: by the way, because I'm the last human being who 287 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: basically wants to bet on the Philadelphia Eagles right now, 288 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: and it is the Eagles plus three and a half 289 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: in Calrolina, and I'm going down with the shit. 290 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: What you did. I did pick the Eagles, so. 291 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: I knew I had you on for a reason. 292 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: But I don't love the game. But I did pick 293 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: the Eagles. I don't. Okay, Carolina has really beat anyone impressive. 294 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: That's great. That is where we get to. By the way, 295 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: like I I think Carolina. 296 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: Strategy was Cincy, same deal. 297 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: Okay, I think that that's fair. It's a fair strategy. 298 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: Then let's go and you get to back the Packers 299 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: though taking on since I have to take the Eagles, 300 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: so that's worse for me. But you're right, Yeah, they 301 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: beat up right who they beat up on? The Jets, 302 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: the Saints, the Texans. That's not that impressive. Then we 303 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: saw holes again in their defense, especially when they go 304 00:12:58,800 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: up against. 305 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: The Cowboys, which by the way, that was them off 306 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 4: of Mini bi right. 307 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: Like they had the Thursday night game, so they got 308 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: to go and the Cowboys were off a short week 309 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: there as well, so Thompson. 310 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: And they're pretty banged up. That's what I'm saying. 311 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: On defensively, so I know I don't is Gilmore is 312 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: not gonna play in this game? 313 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 4: Is he No? 314 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: I can't imagine he does. 315 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: Even if he does, he's not gonna know the playbook 316 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: or anything like that. I know Christian McCaffrey's playing, but 317 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't expect him to play in this game either. 318 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: And again, Sam Darnold from a fantasy perspective has been great, 319 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: but you know, I have not been overly impressed with 320 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: him from a real life standpoint, Like I'm glad he's 321 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: rushing for the touchdowns everything like that, but he has 322 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: not struck me as the type of guy who's going 323 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: to win you any games. And the big thing with 324 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: the Panthers d by the way, is they get a 325 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: ton of pressure, right, Like that's what they do. 326 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: They get pressure almost better than anybody in the league. 327 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: But the thing is that pressure is not really what 328 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: works with the Eagles. Number one, their offensive line. 329 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: Obviously it's been banged up and you had Lane Johnson 330 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: missed last week for personal reason. Sounds like he's going 331 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: to play in this game. They're getting a little healthier. 332 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: But either way against Jalen Hurts just doesn't work. That's 333 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: not the way his escapability. He's been good here when 334 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: he's gotten pressured. 335 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: So so you're gonna take chin Away too, because chin 336 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be spying him most of the time. 337 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: So yep, that takes a playmaker out. 338 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 4: So great point. Great point as well. 339 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: So this to me, I don't know if the Eagles 340 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: are gonna win this game necessarily, but I do think 341 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to keep this close. So this 342 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: strikes me as a field goal game. If you're giving 343 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: me the hook, that's where I'm gonna take it. And 344 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: even if you're not that excited about it, you picked 345 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: it as well, right, and the betting goes up, So 346 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: we're basically simpatico here, Right, you're all in on the Eagles, 347 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: all right? 348 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: Their bet? What do you got? 349 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: I've got Minnesota minus nine and a half against Detroit, 350 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: And it's more from what I saw from Detroit last 351 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: week against Chicago than me loving Minnesota, because look, they 352 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: only put up seven points against Cleveland and that's not 353 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: gonna inspire a lot of confidence in anyone. But I 354 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: think Detroit, specifically with the injuries Aquir goes down Brockers 355 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: is questionable on that defensive line. That does not lend 356 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: in favor towards Detroit, And I know Detroit's played some 357 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: hard games, right, They played some some teams hard. They're 358 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: in that Niners game at the end, you know, they 359 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: they have looked better than expected, but last week they 360 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: turned into a pumpkin. And I think that's where we're 361 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: heading for the rest of the year for Detroit, right. 362 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna be a lot of running 363 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: up the gut with even if Cook's not healthy. We 364 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: saw Madison put up absolutely yards too. I mean it's 365 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: not you know, wash your hands and put in the 366 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: next guy, but he is pretty good, especially in a 367 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: situation where he's going up against a roughed up defense. 368 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: Penney Sewell got smoked last week by Robert Quinn and 369 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: tal Hunter is better than Robert Quinn. So you're either 370 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: gonna have to get real good, real fast, Penney, or 371 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: they're gonna have to chip over there, which is going 372 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: to take their best playmaker and Hockinson out a lot 373 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: of the time too. DeAndre Swift's questionable. I just think 374 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: this is domination by the Vikings this week. 375 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 4: And don't forget like Hawkinson also has banged up a 376 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: little bit. 377 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: He's been in an a he hasn't been playing great. 378 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: Correct he hasn't been. 379 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: But their offensive line, which was at one point a 380 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: real strength of their team, is also banged up, and 381 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: that kind of pulling them down a little bit. 382 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: I agree with you. 383 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: It's a big number, but I'm okay laying it as well. 384 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: I did pick this one in the app. I haven't 385 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: bet it actually personally because at DraftKings are the only 386 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: book that's hanging out there. Again betting Bros dot Com, 387 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: I can see every book. They're the only book hanging 388 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: out there at ten. Not that you know whatever, but 389 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: every other book basically is that nine and a half. 390 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: That's the contensus line. Ten is not quite as enticing. 391 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: But I agree with you. 392 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: I think the Vikings and they are desperate, right they 393 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: need just windy. 394 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: They're gonna they're gonna be. 395 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: Able to do whatever they want offensively, like they could. 396 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: Obviously we know about the issues with the line. Secondary 397 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: at this point, they I think they're gonna come out 398 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: at home in an absolutely must win game. 399 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: Kudos to the. 400 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: Lines, by the way, like for playing hard. You know 401 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: j Campbell we make fun of they play hard, right, 402 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Like the Campbell's. 403 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: Been much better than Urban Meyer. 404 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: We can say that for him at least, right, Yeah, 405 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: it's nothing off the field for Dan yet it's a 406 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: low bar. 407 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah that's a low bar, but that's true. Yeah, I 408 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: but I am with you on this one. 409 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: I do think. I know it's a big. 410 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Number, but I also like the vikings like nine and 411 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: a half. I have it as well, picked it in 412 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: the app. So my third pick gets a little squishy 413 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: now because right before we're recording this, we learned that 414 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley was out for this game. I expected Russell 415 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: Gage is also offered this game, which I kind of expected. 416 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: That's fine, and so actually the totals coming down, and 417 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: so right now, the latest I have is it's at 418 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: forty five and a half. So I would wait if, 419 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: like me, you want to go over, which I still 420 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: do even without Really it's it's squishy now. I felt 421 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: better about it before Ridley, but it was at forty six, 422 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: forty six and a half. It's falling out of forty 423 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: five and a half. My fault to forty five. I'd 424 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: wait as long as possible because I don't see bouncing 425 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: back up. But London is a variable, okay, I admit, 426 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: regardless of anything else, Like you travel to London. It's 427 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 1: just it does a toll on you, and you know 428 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: that we don't know exactly what we're going to see here. 429 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: But the Jets offense looked a little better here against 430 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: the Titans. And I think there are two reasons for that. 431 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: The first is that as much as we make fun 432 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: of the Jets, the Jets offense is not that bad. 433 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: Like the offensive line has struggled, of course, but Zach Wilson, 434 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, four interceptions in that game, but you give 435 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: him a little time. You give him a defense that's not, 436 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, not I won't say an elite unit, but 437 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: an above average unit like he played the first several 438 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: games with the Panthers, with the Patriots. 439 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 4: With the Broncos in Denver. 440 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: Now that you've got sort of a softer defense like 441 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: you had with the Titans, he looked pretty good last week. 442 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 4: He made some good reads and quirked some good throws. 443 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: The second is I think Jameson Crowder really makes a 444 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: difference to that, Like right, yes, completely. 445 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: Changes what they're going to be. 446 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: By the way, and Mike Elijah Moore may also play 447 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: in this game, but I think that Crowder gives him 448 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: that little safety blanket opens up some room for him 449 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: and Corey Davis. So I really think that they're gonna 450 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: put up points here on the Jets side. And you know, 451 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: Atlanta doesn't get a ton of pressure generally. I mean 452 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: they did against the Giants, but whatever, but I don't 453 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: expect them to hear. And again that's really what has 454 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: forced Wilson into making some bad decisions. So again I 455 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: think the offense for the Jets is going to put 456 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: up points here. The issue obviously is Dough. 457 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 4: The Falcons without Calvin Ridley and without Russell Gage, they'll 458 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 4: put up points. The Jets secondary, who has a bunch 459 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 4: of no names, has played a little better than expected. 460 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: But still disrespect Brandon Echels like that. 461 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: I think, well, I actually I am a Rice Hall fan, 462 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: but we could talk about that off air. I think that, uh, 463 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, even with cord Earl Patterson being like the 464 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: main guy in it being gimmicky, Mike Davis not showing much, 465 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: but again, the key ist will factor in. I think 466 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big Kyle Pitts game. So I 467 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: still think I think it's gonna be a Pitts game. Like, 468 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: if this isn't then if this isn't then we and 469 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: fantasy wise we have to just move on from the 470 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: guy entirely. But in the end, I think both in 471 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 1: a weird game. Again, I think the defenses are going 472 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: to be you know, I think when teams are tired 473 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: and I feel like I see it on Thursday night, 474 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: like for the most part, it effects the defense is 475 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: even more than the offense. And so with the with 476 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: the travel, with the time and everything like that, I 477 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: think it could be a little bit affected there. So 478 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: even with the injuries, I'm still going to go. I 479 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: would wait, by the way for this, Like right now 480 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: it's forty five and a half, but it is coming down. 481 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: I would wait as long as possible. I don't see 482 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: bouncing back up at this point with the injuries, but 483 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to go over here for forty five and 484 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: a half for the Jets Falcons. 485 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: I hate the number. I just don't like it. I'm 486 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: I'm a run away from it. But I picked I 487 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: picked the under but with not a lot of confidence, 488 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: just because we pick every game. 489 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: Do you pick every game? 490 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: I do? 491 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. 492 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: I like the Jets though, I like I like the 493 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: Jets in this game. 494 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I have them, by the way, by 495 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: win at three and a half. 496 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, now it's three. 497 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Now it's three now across the board. Actually it points 498 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: bet it's two and a half. I have them at 499 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: I have them at three and a half. And I 500 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: think we were on I was on with Joe and 501 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: I said, I'm betting it now, like live on the air, 502 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: because I thought that was a number that you really 503 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: want now, especially with all the injuries. 504 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: For sure, I think they Jets win. 505 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: This game, like I I I think they come out 506 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: of it. It's it's a totally new regime obviously, but 507 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: they didn't travel. You know, they have traveled to London, 508 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: you know in the past. 509 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 3: It's gonna take a little bit for everything to click 510 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 3: to a new coach and a new quarterback. 511 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: That's the big big things, you know. 512 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: Uh, Matt Ryan isn't cooked by any shot of the imagination, 513 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: but I mean the dude is getting blasted back then. 514 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: That offensive line is rough. 515 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: They have no semblance of a running game right now 516 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: outside of maybe Cordonero Patterson runs Mike Davis angettad done 517 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: and you take away your best playmaker in Ridley and 518 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: your number two wide receiver engage that's a lot and 519 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: now begging this Falcons defense to put pressure on the 520 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: quarterback and gonna work out for you most of the time. 521 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: So Zach Wilson might step into some sacks here, but 522 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 3: he didn't typically throw a ton of picks in college, 523 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: so college and it's different. But I think that he's 524 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: going to start becoming better. And I think the big 525 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: X factor that you mentioned is Jamison Crowder in this game, 526 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: and it was last week we saw it work, and 527 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna work. I mean, Tennessee's defense isn't good, 528 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: but it's better than Atlanta's. 529 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: So I think it completely changes the offense. I really do, 530 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: because again we were sitting there and again especially without 531 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, who had you know, was dealing with the 532 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: concussion protocol, Like there really wasn't another option to pass 533 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: to on that Jets offense. It was Corey Davis or 534 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: bust you give Crowder, who again is the intermediate routes. 535 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: I really think that opens things up. I haven't you know, 536 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm a Jets fan obviously, so I look for reasons 537 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: to be pessimistic. 538 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: That's just generally how we go. 539 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: I haven't been that down on Wilson like it. There's 540 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: going to be growing pains, I understand, and everything like that. 541 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: So he uncorked a couple of throws, made a couple 542 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: of great reads in this last game. I'm excited to 543 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: see what he could do, and I'm excited that it's 544 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: the only game on even though I'll be live on 545 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: air over at Fantasy Grows and our Betting Pros YouTube 546 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: channel at eleven am on Sunday morning on. 547 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 4: There with mattly so early. 548 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: I know bag win, by the way, is on Hawaiian time, 549 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: so don't mess with himy. 550 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 4: It's very, very different. 551 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: I will be up watching this game for short and 552 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: it's exciting to get to. But so let's go through 553 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: the rest of the games I've I'll recap it very quickly. 554 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: You like Green Bay laying three, the New England Houston 555 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: game over thirty nine and a half, and the Vikings 556 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: like nine and a half to the Lions. I like 557 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Broncos under the minuscule number of 558 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half, the Eagles getting three and 559 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: a half in Carolina, and the Jets and the Falcons 560 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: over forty five and a half. But again I would 561 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: wait and get the best number that you can. Let's 562 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: run through some of the rest of the spreads here, Bagwin. 563 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 4: Just let me know. 564 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: Since you bet everyone, we can know which way you 565 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: went on it. Obviously, the Jets are now getting three. 566 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Number may change what I see. 567 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: You like the Jets. 568 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: I do like the Jets, Yeah, very good. 569 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: And the Eagles against the Panthers. I think you said 570 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: you took the Eagles, right. 571 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I got Kelly. 572 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: By the way, that number now is coming down to three, 573 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: so I like it at three and a half. 574 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: That's where I got it. 575 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: I got it at three. 576 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 4: So did you get it three? 577 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: Okay? 578 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: I had it three and a half. I did it 579 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: last night when I checked, So I had it at 580 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: three and a half. At three, it's obviously a little 581 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: bit less enticing, but I think there's a reason that 582 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: it go It's gone down to three, but I got 583 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: it three and a half. I would still take it 584 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: at three, but for my official play, because I bet it, 585 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: I got it at three and a half. We already 586 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: talked about the Bengals getting three from the Packers. 587 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: You like the Packers there? 588 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: What about the dead number of the Titans visiting the 589 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars laying four and a half. 590 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: I'll take Tennessee because of the distraction of urban Minor 591 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: and what we saw, particularly in the second half that 592 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 3: Thursday night came where they made no adjustments at all. 593 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: So if you find something. 594 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: That works in the first half, it's gonna work in 595 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: the second half. Because the Jacksonville coaching staff did adjust 596 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 3: not at all. 597 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: I hated it. So give me Tennessee. 598 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I you know, I'm expecting Brown 599 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: and Julio Jones to be out. I mean, it sounds 600 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: like Brown has a better chance than Julio Jones, but regardless, 601 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: I'm expecting both. 602 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 4: Of them to be out. 603 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: So I don't think you're going to see fireworks necessarily offensive. 604 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: It's true, it is true. 605 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean overtime, right exactly, it was, he actually played 606 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: better than I expected overall speaking, and again, nobody went 607 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: off in that game. But everybody's like you know, from 608 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: fantasy perspective, just right, exactly, just just Derrick Henry and 609 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: close your eyes. 610 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: I thought Westbrook was going to be good because he 611 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: had so much, so many snaps. 612 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, right, yeah, now that's how we're I mean, 613 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 1: I don't and again I don't think anybody's really get 614 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: to go off here. 615 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 4: Regardless. 616 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: The Jacksonville coaching staff is just so out of their 617 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: depth right now that you know. I think in the 618 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: end it's it's Tennessee by a touchdown, So I would 619 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: like that game as well. 620 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: What about the Bucks laying ten at home to the 621 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 4: Dolphins here? 622 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: The Dolphins one of the worst teams in the NFL. 623 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: They get overshadowed right now by uh, Pittsburgh being bad 624 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, Jacksonville being bad, the Jets being bad. 625 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: But Miami without Tua and even maybe with Tua have 626 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: been horrific. So I got angry Tampa Bay team wiping 627 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: the floor with Miami. 628 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: I think this is Tampa Bay easy. 629 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: So I've betted, but I think that'd go the other way. 630 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: And the reason is the Dolphins have been terrible. I agree, 631 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: But I think number one, it's a very very emotional, 632 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: sort of draining game here that they just had against 633 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots. For the Bucks, I think the loss of 634 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski is enormous just to his ability to block 635 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: and what they're able to do offensively. Like I realized 636 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: it was because the rain and it's Bill Belichick, but 637 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: I think a lot of their struggles were because of 638 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: the fact that the loss of Gronkowski really does make 639 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: a huge difference there. 640 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: Their defense is really poor. 641 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the Dolphins are going to do what every 642 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: other team does, which is say, I'll give you a 643 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: token three runs a game and then we're just gonna 644 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: pass and you don't have Will Fuller, and I think 645 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: that hurts. But Devontai Parker has actually played pretty well. 646 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: I think you'll see a lot of jail mall in 647 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: this game. I think it's going to be close enough 648 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: where I will take the back door cover. I think 649 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: the Bucks are gonna win, but I think the Dolphins 650 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: are going to keep it close enough. 651 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: But I think I think Tampa Bay scores on defense, 652 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: and I think that's. 653 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: The defense that's fair. Let's go. 654 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: What about the Texans getting eight and a half from 655 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: the Pats in New England. 656 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, close. 657 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: I said thirty five to seven was my final and 658 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: that hits the over. That's I think it's gonna play 659 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: like I knew. 660 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: You were going to say it because you said the 661 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: thirty five seven. I don't want to bet the game, 662 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: but I think I you know what, I'm not even 663 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: going to I think I probably would go with the 664 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: Texans just because, again I have a feeling that they're 665 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: going to keep it. I know, this is what I do. 666 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: I take disgusting dogs. That's why I really, really, you 667 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: know what. 668 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: But there is the point if you get over a 669 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 3: touchdown in the NFL, it becomes enormously hard to cover. 670 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 4: That is, and they're on the road with a like 671 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 4: a rookie. I get how good Belichick is. 672 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: I get like green Bay so much because it's three 673 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 2: on the road. 674 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 4: Right. 675 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 3: If it was much more than that, I probably wouldn't. 676 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: But I think they stopped too. 677 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, all right, I look forced to go one way. 678 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: I would go with the Texans, but I do not 679 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: have strong feelings about it. You sound like you do 680 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: a little bit, so you know, go with that. The 681 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Broncos a visiting the Steelers. We talked that game with 682 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: the over under. The Steelers are laying a point. 683 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm not touching it, but I take Denver. 684 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: You have to go one way, right, you bet every 685 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: game that's what you did. Yes, I'm not betting it either. 686 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: But again I'll go on the other side, and I'll 687 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: go with the Steelers. Here at home again. I don't 688 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: like either. I'm not betting it whatsoever. I just feel 689 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: like man as bad as the Steelers are one in four, 690 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: you know, against the Broncos team that I think really 691 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: is propped up by the fact that they played a 692 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: super soft schedule early on. They've got those injuries. I 693 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: think the defense plays well enough to win this game. 694 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: I like ten to seven game there, Bogman. But yes, 695 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: we'll see hopefully. 696 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: My neighbors also hope you're right. 697 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: All right, go neighbors Vikings. We already talked about like 698 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: nine and a half. How about the Saints visiting Washington 699 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: and Washington is getting two and a half. 700 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: I'll take Washington. New Orleans hasn't done anything on offense. 701 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I think Jamis has eight touchdowns, two picks 702 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: five well week one, so just three touchdowns since then 703 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: and two picks. I don't like any of it, but 704 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: I'll take one Washington. 705 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: Here I forced to choose. I'm with you. I will 706 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: take the home dog. But I want nothing to do 707 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 4: with this game whatsoever. 708 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: So a game though, that I'm mildly intrigued by is 709 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers at home against the Browns. 710 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: Chargers laying too what do you think this. 711 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: Is my ultimate runaway game. 712 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 3: I just because I will just want to sit and 713 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 3: watch it, right, I just want to see because these 714 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: are two of the best teams in the AFC right now. 715 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: I got the Chargers at home. I think so far 716 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: has become a pretty big home field advantage here. 717 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: Well there, you know, there were I felt like there 718 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: were a lot of Raiders fans though in that game. 719 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: But there were. But the stadium is loud, Yeah it is. 720 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: It's loud, loud, loud. 721 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, and look, maybe there'll be some Cleveland fans, 722 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: but I don't think they travel. 723 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: I mean, the Raid was already Raider Country in LA. 724 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: That's true. That's a good point. That's a good point. 725 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 726 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: I like the Chargers here. If I have to go 727 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: one way, you know, I'll i'll. 728 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: The Chargers have impressed me greatly because it's basically what 729 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: we thought the Chargers could be had they avoided injuries 730 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: and had a better coaching staff for like the last 731 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: couple of years. Like they have a very strong defensive, 732 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: very strong offensive line. Quarterbacker really knows what he's doing. 733 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: The Mayfield Old injury, I think you I think that's 734 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: probably why sort of we were like, why did Baker 735 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: Mayfield have the worst game of his career? 736 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 4: Right? 737 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: And again without Darvis Landry still there. I really think 738 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: that hurts him and their ability. So I think the 739 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: Chargers win. I'll lay the two points. Again, not one 740 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: of my best bests, but I would lay the two points. 741 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: How about the Raiders hosting the Bears laying five and 742 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: a half. 743 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: I'll take the Raiders to bounce back. They did just 744 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: say that they're going to move Leatherwood to guard, which 745 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: is I mean, get anybody else at right tackle? 746 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: Right? Leatherwood's been horrific. 747 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: So it's funny because every we all thought that was 748 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: such a brilliant pick at the time they made right. 749 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: Everybody lauded it and said great pick, right Joe, nobody 750 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: liked it. 751 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 4: Nobody. 752 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: Maybe he can work out at tackle next year, but 753 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: it is not working right now. I think they said 754 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: weeks one through four he's the lowest graded rookie starting 755 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: tackle since two thousand and six on PFF, which. 756 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: They make such crazy picks during that draft. 757 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: Man, every single time, it's the Raiders man, it's the 758 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: Raiders man. 759 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: Mcclin ferrell was there. 760 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: You know what is the number four, number five overall 761 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: pick and now he's not even playing. 762 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: They just it's it's like, it's terrible. Really, I agree 763 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: with you, by the way, I agree with you. If 764 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: I have to go one way, I'm going with the 765 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: Raiders in this game. I do think it's a bounced 766 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: back spot. 767 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, Fields is just not very trustable yet. 768 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: Not yet. I'm hopeful for later. 769 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be great, but you can't 770 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: trust him yet. They're not opening it up. 771 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, how about the Cowboys hosting the Giants laying seven. 772 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: I want to go with the Giants, but they're two 773 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: banged up. Leonard Williams is questionable for this game, so 774 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: he's not going to be one hundred percent like Martinez 775 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: just went out for the year. I like what Dallas 776 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: is doing on offense in particular, so I'm going to 777 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: take the Cowboys at home. 778 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm staying away from it because again, this is when 779 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: this when Danny Danny Dimes comes through a little bit 780 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: here on the road. Right in these games game divisional game, 781 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm staying away though this is a game 782 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: I do just want to kind of watch, but I'm 783 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: just staying away. But if you got to go somewhere, 784 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: You're going with the Cowboys. 785 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 4: If I got to go somewhere, I am jumping out 786 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 4: the window. 787 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Cardinals laying five at home against 788 00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. 789 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: Cardinals, they match up well, and the Cardinals just came 790 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: off a very impressive win running the ball against the Rams, 791 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: which I never thought we would say Cardinals run the 792 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: ball and win, but they did it. So they're showing 793 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: more sides than just being one dimensional, which is going 794 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: to play into their hands against this bad secondary for 795 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: San Francisco. 796 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: So give me the Cardinals at home. 797 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like I don't have enough of 798 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: a sense of what the four nineers are going to 799 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: look like offensively anyway for me to have anything. 800 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: Trey Lance maybe Jimmy g all right, who is it 801 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: going to be? 802 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: And if it's Trey Lance, I don't feel like comfortable 803 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: enough to know exactly what I'd see from them anywhere. 804 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: I again another stay away from me. Forced to go somewhere, 805 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: I would go with the Cardinals. Like you, the game 806 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: that everybody wants to watch on Sunday night, the Bills 807 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: visiting the Chiefs. 808 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 4: The Chiefs are three point favorites. 809 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to take the Buffalo Bills on the road 810 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: in Kansas City. Don't particularly love this game, but I 811 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: do think the Bills are clicking on all cylinders. After 812 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: losing the Pittsburgh Week one at home, they've been playing angry, 813 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: they've been running it up. I think they look great 814 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: right now. They're one of the best teams in the NFL. 815 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: So I'm going to take Buffalo. 816 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: I agree with you that first game against Pittsburgh, you know, 817 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: I think there were some question marks, right They were 818 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: a little bit like, oh no, is this a regression 819 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: that we didn't see coming. But they've played really well 820 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: since then. 821 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: I agree. 822 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna bet it because I just want 823 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: to watch it right, But it's I think the Bills 824 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: are the right side here catching the points. Final game 825 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: here Monday Night Football, the Colts are visiting the Ravens. 826 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: The Ravens are laying. 827 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: Hate this game. Don't like it at all. I take it. 828 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 3: Forced to pick, I'm going to take Baltimore because I 829 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: just don't like what the Colts have been doing on offense. 830 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: In particular, you need to give the ball more to 831 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor. But Carson Wentz is already banged up, so 832 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: ye give me Baltimore, and they seem to be winning 833 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: everything by the skin of their teeth. But yeah, they 834 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: should have one good win here soon. 835 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: I agree with you. I would go Baltimore here as well. 836 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 4: And again there are a couple of books bet MGM. 837 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: Noticeably that's at six and a half, so if you 838 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: want to if you can get that, that's obviously better. 839 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: I would also go with Baltimore, but again it's mostly 840 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: a stay away. Okay, very briefly, I will recap our 841 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: best bets and then we will say goodbye to everyone. 842 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: Bogwin, you are. 843 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: Taking the Packers laying three to the Bengals, the Patriots 844 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: and the Texans over thirty nine and a half points, 845 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: and the Vikings laying nine and a half points to 846 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: the Lions. I'm taking the Steelers in the Broncos under 847 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half, the Eagles getting three and 848 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: a half in Carolina. 849 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: If you've got to take it at three, that's fine. 850 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: But I will take the three and a half because 851 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: I locked it in and the Jets and the Falcons 852 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: currently over forty five and a half. But again I 853 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: would wait at this point because I think that number 854 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: is coming down. Bogman, thank you for joining me, for 855 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: time traveling, for doing everything. 856 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,239 Speaker 4: I love it. 857 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: You are crushing it on the College Football Pod. By 858 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: the way, if you play fantasy because I know it's 859 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: betting pros, Bogman is also our IDP expert and he 860 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: crushes it there. 861 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: He also crushes it just generally as a fantasy expert. 862 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: But here's everything Bogmin in addition to here at betting pros, 863 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: in addition to Fantasy pros, tell everybody where they can 864 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: find you. 865 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously in this league. With myself in 866 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 3: the Welsh we do fantasy football three times a week. 867 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: We do two shows and then a betting show as well. 868 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: I do Line Star with my buddy Casey Bubba as 869 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 3: well talking about NFL bets and of course betting pros 870 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 3: here and sports Scrid as well, and a thousand other 871 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 3: individual defensive podcast you know the il CFF. So all 872 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: the stuff and things you can find me everywhere. 873 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 4: Hardest working manage show business. 874 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate you coming on and you guys 875 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: know what the deal is. 876 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 4: Enjoy your weekend, all year football. 877 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday, Breaking down some of the 878 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: early reaction to the week six 879 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 4: Lines, I'll talk to you then,