1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to move the sticks. I am Bucky Brooks, and 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: I got my guy. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 3: I got a new guy. I got Atchie Clay Bond 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 3: coming on the pod. 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 4: Atti. 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: This is the first time. It's a newbie. It's your debut. 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: What do you gotta say to the people you don't. 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: Move the sticks? 10 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 4: I say, long time listener, first time caller. Glad to be. 11 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 4: It took a decade, but we're here. 12 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: We did it. And Buck, I'm just glad. I'm just 13 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: fortunate for the opportunity. I'm blessed in highly favorite. 14 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: My friend, Oh, you are blessed in I the favorite. 15 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: We are blessed to have on all the different things 16 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: that you do at uh FL media. And so today 17 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: we have a fun little conversation about all things NFL. 18 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: Maybe we're throwing some of the things that you're brewing on. 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: But I don't think are your Cowboys fan? Clayband, No 20 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: from thet. 21 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: No, it's me and DeMarcus. I was in school with DeMarcus. 22 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: I used to referee as inner mural games. You know, 23 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: we went to Dallas, you know, on his way to 24 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: the Hall of fame. So I celebrated the d where 25 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: left they lost me. 26 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 5: So that was my relationship with the d Oh okay, 27 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 5: I mean I thought there was a Troy connection between 28 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 5: you and DeMarcus where that would lead you to sit 29 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 5: right in front of the TV and say, you know what, 30 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 5: I am with the America's team tonight. 31 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: And so we're gonna start. 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about that because it's time for the 33 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: lead block presented by T Mobile for Business. Football needs 34 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: a network willing to go to extra yrs. So do 35 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: you go further with T Mobile for Business? And so 36 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: let's talk about that because there's a lot of controversy. 37 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: People are upset about the Cowboys. I saw people crying, 38 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: very emotional. Michael Parson's in the postgame thing Cowboys come 39 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: up short. We said, up Twitter, really, look a Bengals 40 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: team that is explosive and dynamic, and look it'd be Martin. 41 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: We'll talk about the block, punt and those things, but 42 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: your general thoughts on America's team seemingly being on the 43 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: brink of playoff elimination. 44 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and going up against another team that has found 45 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: some adventurous ways to lose football games. 46 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: It's kind of the clash right between the. 47 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: Very stoppable force and the very movable object on Monday 48 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Night Football, but ultimately right one team had its quarterback right, 49 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: and Ceedee Lamb played a great game with no Dack. 50 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: You kind of see the limitations of Cooper Rush and 51 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase doing what Joe Burrow and 52 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: Joe Marchase always do, and I think that a lot 53 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: of that led into the frustration and what you saw 54 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: from Michael Parsons really given one hundred percent of what 55 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: he could. You know, the Cowboys were glad to have 56 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: him back there a different team with him out there, 57 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: that still wasn't enough because on top of you know, 58 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: being overmatched in some situations and something still went on 59 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: their favorite like like Ceedee Lamb won on one the 60 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: free release the goal line with Mike Hilton, where it's 61 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, like eventually, like the chess pieces, 62 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of limited to what Luanno Romo can do 63 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: sometimes and that didn't work out for them. 64 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 4: But the talent shown out at the end. 65 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, the talent certainly shows out, and I think it 66 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: was interesting. 67 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been on social where Natty 68 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: Bengals have kind of put out or somebody on behalf 69 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: of the Bengals put out the little conversation that they 70 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: had a halftime where the coach was saying to Jamar Chase, 71 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: the Cowboys are scared of you, Like basically, they're fearful. 72 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: They don't have anybody that can deal with you. 73 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 4: And that's a lot of fos. 74 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: I mean, that is a lot so especially like shameless. 75 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: Plug, hard knocks inside the AFC North was fantastic last week. 76 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 2: You heard Mike Tomlin talk about Jamar Chase being that man. 77 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: We then saw him go out there and do what 78 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: men do. 79 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: And then Dallas Cowboys obviously the sentiment is expressed for 80 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: the Cowboys and they could not contain Jamar Chase and 81 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: it is fascinating to watch him continue to get down 82 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: and the way that he and Joe Burrow get down. 83 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: It's just an extension of those great LSU teams, that 84 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: great LSU team to one to Naddy, you would think 85 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: that you would keep one, but somehow you lose track 86 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: of Jamar Chase's whereabouts and he punishes you in everywhere. 87 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and ultimately right, you hope the Cincinnati Bengals don't 88 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: make the same mistake and lose track of Jamar Chase. 89 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why we're at this point in December 90 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four and he isn't locked up because 91 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: you see how special that is every single week, and understand, 92 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: the win lost column is where it is. But you 93 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: get something nobody else has. You draft that you keep 94 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: that thing, and they have something that we haven't seen 95 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: in a very long time. 96 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: They do have something that we haven't seen in a 97 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: very long time. 98 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: You talk about someone who can tilt the field in 99 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: their favor, and the other player that they have on 100 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: the other side, t Higgins is also goods. You know, 101 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: it's funny because we've seen some teams figured out we're 102 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: able to keep both wide receivers. Other teams, like the 103 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, seem like they're trying to fomb a bag 104 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: with both wide receivers and lose established assets. But in 105 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: the pecking order, Jamar Chase certainly is that guy. And 106 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: when you look at him, and you look at this 107 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: offense and the way Joe Burrow is playing, how can 108 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: you not open up the vault and just say, hey, man, 109 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 2: take the cash. 110 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't know It truly doesn't make much sense to 111 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: me because we see teams figure it out. It's very 112 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: difficult to come back from a talent deficiency, and we 113 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: saw them in Jamar's first year be a half second away. 114 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: If not for a play by one of the best 115 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: to ever play the game in Aaron Donald, they could 116 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: have had the Lombardi. Then keep it together and try 117 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: to run it back. 118 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: I mean, why why not run it? Bag duck? 119 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: Look, I know, because you're from down in South and 120 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: you don't understand how that football works. Are you surprised 121 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: that Joe Burrow and all the things that we see 122 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: from Joe Burrow on a weekly basis. 123 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Well, honestly, when when things that that first year at 124 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: LSU I didn't, I would have never believed everything that 125 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: we've seen since then from Joe Burrow, right, especially this year, 126 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: right because we're now years removed from the ACLU stepping 127 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: up and through throwing on the run, taking the hits 128 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: that he did last night, having his helmet almost ripped off, 129 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: and somehow you know that that wasn't necessarily seen. He 130 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: just makes so many plays and at this point, nothing 131 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: that he does surprises me other than the Bengals, right, 132 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: managing to fall and fall up a latent games, which 133 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: they did again in this one. It was only the 134 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: fact that the Cowboys are having an even worse season 135 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: that they wound up winning that football game. 136 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and speaking of the Cowboys, like so much has 137 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: been made of the Cowboys, right, all of the heat 138 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: was on the Cowboys coming into the season. People talking 139 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: about Mike McCarthy. They talked about Dek Prescott. Dek Prescott 140 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: is on the shelf with the hamstring injury. Mike McCarthy 141 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: is seemingly coaching for his job, even though Jerry Jones 142 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily the sike, he's putting that kind of pressure 143 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: on him. It seems like we are more on Mike 144 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: McCarthy about his job status than the Cowboys are. Like, 145 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: what do you feel about the faltering version of America's 146 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: team that we're seeing? 147 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Well, all the problems that we knew coming into the year, right, 148 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: the lack of commitment to several different aspects of the team. 149 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: I think that the Zimmer higher makes more sense with 150 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: the way that we've seen the defense play in the 151 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: past few weeks with Michael Parsons back. But there was 152 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: a big loss in dan Quinn, not a real commitment 153 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: to running the football, where Zeke is your big signing. 154 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is playing great in Nashville right now for 155 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: less money than he was getting for the Dallas Cowboys. 156 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: And it's kind of a theme where we see that 157 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: with Tony Pollard, we saw that with Amari Cooper. And 158 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: you wonder, despite hearing about how the Cowboys are all in, 159 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: where's this significant investment in trying to be a successful 160 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: football team. I haven't seen it, and I don't know 161 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: when we're when we're going to see you get Micah back, right, 162 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: and that's that's something you have to have. But this 163 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: is money that could have been saved. But so we're 164 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: talking about the Cincinnati Bengals. If you invest earlier in 165 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: all these players, then you have more money to do 166 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: the things that you need to do. 167 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: But they didn't do that. So here we are again. 168 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: Here we are ag I mean, I mean they love 169 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: holding onto the cast like they like paying people at 170 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: the last minute. They don't mind the price going all 171 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: the way up when they can get it at a 172 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: bargain basement deal. 173 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: They're like, no, we'll play pmium prices. Premium prices for 174 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: all of this stuff. Let's go it is. 175 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: It is really baffling to see the team construction because 176 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: when Jerry Jones says the expectation, when he says that 177 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: they're all in, and then you cup at the pieces 178 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: that have required, these aren't all in pieces. These aren't 179 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: game changing pieces that they acquired to around Dak Prescott 180 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: and their marquee players around. 181 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: And here's the thing now that because they've waited so. 182 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: Late, you paid Michael Parson, You've paid that Prescott CD 183 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: Lamba's pade. 184 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: Guess what they have to do with the pieces that 185 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: they currently have. 186 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: And so what changes for the Cowboys I don't know, 187 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: but one thing that we know change somewhere along the line. 188 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: They're going to have to get like a little special 189 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: team's rule book so they can understand what's going on. 190 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: Because we have seen this happen a few different times. 191 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys make a great play, they block a punt, 192 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: the ball goes beyond the line of scrimmage. Amani Arruier 193 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: wants to pick it up because he sees the ball. Now, 194 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get the ball, but he doesn't grab 195 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: the ball. So the Bengals get it, they recover and look, 196 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: the rest of it is history. But here's the thing. 197 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: It happened a few years ago when they did the 198 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: same thing. 199 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: Like same thing. Now, sure, I'm right, the ball goes across, 200 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: he picks. 201 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: It up. 202 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: At some point, Right, we have to have a conversation 203 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 3: about this with the team, right, we got to tell 204 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: the players. But the rules are right back. 205 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: Well, at a certain point, man, the ball the ball 206 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: just not being round. Uh, you're just snake bit and 207 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: and really you got to charge it to the game 208 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: that that's the universe deciding that you weren't going to 209 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: win the football game that day. If it wasn't that, 210 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: it probably would have been something else like we saw. Uh, 211 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: they get the fortune right of of you know, Cooper 212 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: Rush making the bath throws backup quarterback. You expect that 213 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: the hooker picks off Joe Burrow in a spot where 214 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: like Zach Taylor, Joe, like Jamar, nobody knew what actually happened. 215 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: There's just one of the worst throws that we see 216 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow make and a long time. 217 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: So you get that gift, and then the gift comes 218 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: right back in terms of on the on the blocked 219 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: kick where you know, you see the ball. Oh, I'm 220 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: gonna make a play. You know the end zones right there, 221 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to didn't work help. 222 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: It didn't certainly work out like that like we've seen it. Man, 223 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: it's almost like watching like little kids, right, little kids 224 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: playing soccer. Right, anyone who's had little kids, or anyone 225 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: who's been around the field, who's watching you soccer, it's 226 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: like a little bee high. They see the ball and 227 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: they're just like moss to the flame. And that is 228 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: what happened for the Cowboys. The ball goes beyond the thing. 229 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: You see a bounce. 230 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: You're like, look at the bouncing ball. 231 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: I just got to touch it. I got to touch 232 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 2: the ball, and unfortunately he was not able to bring 233 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: it in. They get the ball back in. 234 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: Look. 235 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: Man, it's a play that happens all the time. You 236 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: would like to think that people would react under pressure, 237 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: but sometimes, man, you just see the ball and you 238 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: just gotta I just gotta touch it. Even though your 239 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: parents said, don't pit the animals, you just want us 240 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: to get hand out there when you're in the zoo. 241 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Monday night, football, man. 242 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: There is a universe out there where that ball bounces up, 243 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: he cradles it in his hands, bites the tackle. 244 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 4: He's in the zone the rest of his life. 245 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: He's having bad banquet Chicken in twenty fifty six talking 246 00:10:59,280 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: about that moment. 247 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 4: But but instead, this is this is the world we 248 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: live in. It is the world. 249 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: It is the world we live in. So then what 250 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: do these two teams go from here to the Cowboys? 251 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could say they still have 252 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: a chance, but look, man, without your starting quarterback, with 253 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: the limited pieces that they have, uh, they lose over 254 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: Street to a season and injury. 255 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: You just wonder do they have enough firepower to really compete? 256 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: And then for the Bengals, and the Cincinnati Bengals get 257 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: back into the mix like a few games behind, but 258 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: can they. 259 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: Get back claw their way back into the play our brace? 260 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: What do you think, Pat, It's gonna be tough. I 261 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 4: mean you just look. 262 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: You look through the loss of the Chargers, the two 263 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: point conversion loss to the to the Ravens. Uh, so 264 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: many instances, the Washington Commander's game, or they could go 265 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: back and they could pick any one of those games, 266 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: and maybe this becomes a more realistic, realistic opportunity. They're 267 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: just too far behind. Buck We got the Dolphins, the Broncos, 268 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: all these teams making late pushes in the AFC. 269 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: It's it's a it's a tough that's tough role. 270 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: For Okay, Well, I mean, like I feel you, you 271 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: just kind of feel like they're they're on tour. So 272 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna put them away. I'm gonna say, 273 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: oh Va, it's over for them. It's over the Bengals, 274 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: it's over the Cowboys. We're on to the next. And 275 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: so that's a wrap for the lead block presented by 276 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: T Mobile for Business. Football needs a network willing to 277 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: go to extra yard. So do you go further with 278 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: T Mobile for Business. We're gonna take a break and 279 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: we'll be right back with more conversation with Pat Cleveland. 280 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: All right, Pat, So we we we talked briefly about 281 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: the playoff mix and picture is interesting. And before we 282 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: talk about the pitch in general, I'm just gonna ask you, point, Blake, 283 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: who's the best team in football? 284 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: Oh man, it's the Detroit Lions are the best team 285 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: in football. Bucket to me, you take their respective pieces. Uh, 286 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: they still got Carlton Davis Brian Branch all right, as 287 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: well as Kirby Jones, like back back there making plays. 288 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: I know they've had losses on the defensive side of 289 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: extensive losses, but if you're asking me the best team 290 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: with the most amount of talent that can make a push, 291 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: the losses are huge, obviously, but I think it's the 292 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions right now. 293 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: Okay, the Detroit Lions Motown's finest. I've seen them up 294 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 2: close and personal. Was there a few weeks ago when 295 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: they whooped up on the Jacksonville Jaguarts. And I'll tell 296 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: you complete football team. They can do whatever they want 297 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: to do. On offense. They can win with forest or finess. 298 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: They can run it, they can throw it. Quarterback is good. 299 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: Defense is hungry and nasty, and when they play at home, 300 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: they have a bit of an. 301 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: Az to you. 302 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: But here's what I'm gon contend, because like you're a guy, 303 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: and you understand this, like giving your track background, you 304 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: can't you can't beat the man until you beat the man. 305 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: And so I'm looking around at the Kant City Chiefs 306 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there saying, I know what everyone is saying. 307 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 3: They're vulnerable. 308 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: He's this and that this is the year we're gonna 309 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: get him. But Patrick, they've won fifteen in a row 310 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: when it comes to one score games, and it reminds 311 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: me a little bit of you same Boat. 312 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: Are you saying? 313 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: Boat would mess around, mess around in the World Championships 314 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: and everyone's. 315 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: Like, Oh, I'm gonna beat him, I'm gonna get him, 316 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 3: and then. 317 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: We get to the Olympics and he waxes everybody. I 318 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: kind of feel like that about the Kansas City Chiefs. 319 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: It's not the same. He's not winning by like ten meters, 320 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: like running through the tape, but he's still kind of 321 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: just looking around, you know, getting it done. 322 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: Now that we know. 323 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: That the Kansa Citygs are more than likely gonna have 324 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: home field in Airhead, who is gonna go to Arahead 325 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: and beat them? 326 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: I think they can lose. They can lose to all 327 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: these AFC teams. It might not happen, and under I 328 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: feel you on the Bolt analogy, But this is almost 329 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: like having that two hundred final be ten minutes after 330 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: the one hundred meters final with a different field, where 331 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs have run this race, and they've 332 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: run this race so much that essentially the guys like 333 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes. They've played an extra 334 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: season of football all now that other people have not played, 335 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: and so like they're they're hitting posts to win games 336 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: against the Chargers in Arrowhead Harrison but basks job and 337 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: like Spags's defense, they didn't give up thirty points for 338 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: almost two consecutive years, and then they almost do it 339 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: in back to back games, one of those games to 340 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. I'm not saying they can't win a 341 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and clearly right the Kansay Chiefs can win 342 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: another Super Bowl. This one would be more difficult than 343 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: the other ones, including the one that they lost to 344 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. I just feel like if the Chiefs are vulnerable, 345 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: if not now win, if not now, Bucky like that they. 346 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: Will win the next six Super Bowls. If we feel 347 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: like they're the favorite right now, like. 348 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: Truly right, I just feel like they're in the middle 349 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: of a bunch of fifty repeats workout right if the 350 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: people kind of board, they're not really maxing out, they 351 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: kind of know what they got to do, Like man, coach, 352 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: the league meet isn't like we got time, we got 353 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: time to get ready for it, like I'm doing the 354 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: work you. 355 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: Know, w to do with me. 356 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: He almost got to. 357 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like they've been here for so long, 358 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: particularly with Pat Mahomes. Once it gets into the fourth cod, 359 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: they're like, okay, man, let's get serious. That's what and 360 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: that's what they continue to do each and every week. 361 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: Now it's been a little too close for comfort. They've 362 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: had to block field goals, they've had to rely on some. 363 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: The Raiders gifts of them a game. 364 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: But I mean some improbable stuff like people are just 365 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: people are having clock issue, clock time management issues and 366 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: those things. But they're always there, and I just know 367 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: that now you have to believe that they're the boogeyman, right, 368 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: they're the boogeyman, Like you just look around in the 369 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: clock and no matter how good it's going, you know what, 370 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: to this day, I won't do it. But you remember 371 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: when candy Man came out and we're like looking around there, like, hey, 372 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: don't go to the bathroom. Don't say candy Man three times, Like, 373 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: don't say it three times. I feel like when we 374 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: get into the fourth quarter of these games in the postseason. 375 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be like I can't say it. 376 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: I can't see it. 377 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: I can't say then they gonna say it, and I 378 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: can't see The Chiefs are gonna come out and they're 379 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: gonna find a way to snatch it at the end, 380 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: and Pat Mahomes is. 381 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: Going to do what he normally does in the fourth ward. 382 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's hard to get away from that feeling. 383 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 4: It just is. 384 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: But they they haven't They can't protect him right now, 385 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: Bucky to ask him to do the type of things 386 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: that he's had to do in the past. It's just 387 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: very difficult for me to put that picture in there. 388 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: Of course, they can win the games, but it's as 389 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: a as a favorite right now. I'm just I'm not 390 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: saying it. I gotta I gotta go with I. 391 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: Mean, I get it, And look Pat, prior to I 392 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: would say, prior to yesterday, I was ready to say 393 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: that the Philadelphia Eagles are their team. But now the 394 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: city of brother he loves. It seemed to be a 395 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: little infighting. You have some stuff. You got Brandon Graham 396 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: going on radio. 397 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: You have a J. 398 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: Brown and Smith having very tense conversations on the sideline. 399 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 2: They're campaigning to throw the ball even though they're running 400 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: rough shot over People say Kwon Barkley's having maybe an 401 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: historic year when we look at it. By the end 402 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: of the season, he may shatter the single season rushing mark. 403 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: And yet we have this discord that disappears. And if 404 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: we don't have the discord, then we got the smughead 405 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: coach that is beepopping around and you know, kind of 406 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: giving mean mugging like he's in the club. 407 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just something weird about the Eagles, 408 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: you know. 409 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: That's that's them, that's who they are. They lose two games, 410 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: you would think they have lost the last twelve games 411 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: the way the way things go on. They get a 412 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: win at home in week fourteen, and people are upset, 413 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: like there's music playing in the locker room and AJ 414 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: Brown's like passing, we got, we got. That's just the 415 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: way that they're cut. 416 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 4: And the only time. 417 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: That they're really going to enjoy things is if that 418 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: confetti is falling in New Orleans. And that's that's the situation. 419 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: That's what the situation with a lot of Eagles fans, 420 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: the situation with a lot of people on the team. 421 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: But this is a team that almost played a perfect 422 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: game and won the Super Bowl, and they've seen significant 423 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: losses system and they're still here. They're still contending. San 424 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Francisco is not doing that, Dallas isn't doing that. A 425 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: lot of these teams that have been in contention aren't 426 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: here anymore. And I really think the Eagles have high 427 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: expectations for themselves and that frustration comes out even Nick Sirianni. 428 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: But he hasn't done anything weird in the past few weeks. 429 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: There's been no jawing with fans, no no interesting press 430 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: conference comments. So I think Nick Sirianni's kind of leveled 431 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: things out. And if everybody's so upset right about a 432 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: late season win against the Carolina Panthers, well, we just 433 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: talked about the defending champs. They had to survive late 434 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: against the Carolina Panthers, So like, what's the bar for Philly? 435 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: Really? 436 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: They have to blow everybody out and us we're all sad. 437 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: They're good to It's gonna be all right, like Philly. 438 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: I'm telling you man that I think it's something about Philadelphia. 439 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: I think it's something about like maybe maybe they're playing 440 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: too many rough Rider songs in the in the locker room. 441 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: Like everyone's upset in tense. I feel like they need 442 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: to maybe they can find some of the party music 443 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: from the nineties where we just kind of lighten the load, 444 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, moved a little bit. 445 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: They need to have fun right now. 446 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: The rugged I feel like they're still in the Timberland 447 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 2: era like in Philly, like come on, light it up, 448 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: like this has. 449 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Some fun, like the club mixed era when everybody was 450 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: doing like everybody has. 451 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: Technical songs, DJ had us falling in love like that. 452 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 4: That's what we need, Okay. 453 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: I just I just want to I just want to 454 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 2: change the energy in Philadelphia a little bit. 455 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: Like I think maybe Colleen, like maybe we need Colleen. 456 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: Whip to kind of come in and drop the right 457 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: thing on them to kind of get them going, because 458 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: right now they're a little angry, they're a little testy 459 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: in those things. And so we talked about Philadelphia. The 460 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: AFC team, to me, that is the AFC version of Philadelphia. 461 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens drive me a bit crazy in terms 462 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: of when you look at them, the way that they 463 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: construct you like, man, that that team has super Bowl 464 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: written all over. They're so good on offense with Lamar 465 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: Jackson to Eric Henry what they're able to do in 466 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: terms of being able to control the game with their offense. Defensively, 467 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: they still have enough goons and enforces to. 468 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 3: Kind of host their will on Upontis. But then you 469 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: look up Patrick in a game that they should just win, 470 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: they drop. In games that they're not supposed to win, 471 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: they dominate. 472 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: It's the craziest Jecklin Hyde act that I've seen of 473 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: an NFL team, and. 474 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 4: It's entirely frustrating. 475 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, as a as a person who's a Lamar 476 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: stand the moment he stepped on the field that first 477 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: game at Louisville against Auburn, I was like, this is it, 478 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: this is what I want to see. Uh, And the 479 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: team has finally gotten to a point where where that 480 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: I think the offense works now that Deontay Johnson trade 481 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: did not work out clearly for any number of reasons, 482 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: him not being able to keep his feet, not not 483 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: being willing to put his feet on the field, any 484 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: number of reasons. But to see kind of the defense improve, right, Uh, 485 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: they have a chance to get better. After the buye. 486 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: They were able to get a lot of pressure on 487 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert h game. After that defense applying a ton 488 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: of pressure, but it's just inconsistency from different parts of 489 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: the team. Where you finally get the offense you want, 490 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: the defense falls back, the pass rush falls back, but 491 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: then there's issues in the secondary. Then you know, receivers 492 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: having issues separating. Where sometimes we enjoy right Zay Flowers 493 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: being a badgeted with his routes, and then there's times 494 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: where you would like Zay Flowers to be in the 495 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: place he's supposed to be expected to be when he 496 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: throws the ball. But there's the thing about it's frustrating, 497 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: much like Philly, because you have that talent and that's 498 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: something you can't replace here in early December and so, 499 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: and that's why they have a chance. But it's it's 500 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be frustrated, just like when 501 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: they were the best team in football last year and 502 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: managed to lose the AFC Championship. 503 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 2: You know, but they may have a better path to 504 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl this year because look, last year, they 505 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: had all the pressure. They were into the tournament with 506 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: all the pressure as top seed, all those stuff. 507 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: This year it won't be the same. 508 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: And you can make the case that maybe it's a 509 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: better team this year than last year going in, they 510 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: just got to find their way. Hopefully John Harbaugh can 511 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: kind of push the right buttons to get this team going, 512 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: because they certainly are good enough to be there in 513 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: the end. And so speaking to the end, Patrick, unfortunately, 514 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 2: like we got to end it, we're up against the 515 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: clock on this episode of Move the Six. 516 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: But here's what I know. 517 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: I might have an opportunity to bring you back for 518 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 2: another podcast. Let's be able to talk about some other stuff. 519 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: So until next time, I'm Bucky Berks. That's Patrick Playbond. 520 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: This is Moved the Six. See you next time.