WEBVTT - Pixel 9, Massive Data Breach & Dangers of AI

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<v Speaker 1>The latest devices from Google and their emphasis on AI.

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<v Speaker 1>What to do if your personal information was exposed in

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<v Speaker 1>that massive data breach. The free VPN that's actually good

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<v Speaker 1>and you can use right now. Plus your tech questions answered.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on. I'm Rich Dmiro and this is Rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech. This is the show where I talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the tech stuff I think you should know about. I

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<v Speaker 1>answer your questions about technology and cut through all the

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<v Speaker 1>clutter so you can live a better tech life. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that tech should be interesting, useful and fun. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>open up those phone lines at triple eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>four one zero one. Give me a call. If you

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<v Speaker 1>Go there at the top, hit content and you can

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<v Speaker 1>send your email straight to my inbox. Guests this week

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, Ryan Montgomery, founder of the cybersecurity firm

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<v Speaker 1>pen Tester. He's going to talk about that big Social

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<v Speaker 1>Security number breach and he made the tool that lets

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<v Speaker 1>you check to see if your numbers floating out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll talk about that. Then we've got some folks

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<v Speaker 1>from Google to talk about all of their new devices,

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<v Speaker 1>Google Home, Google Pixel, Google Pixel Wearables. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a great conversation with them. And later in the

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<v Speaker 1>show we're expecting to talk to Max Tegmark of the

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<v Speaker 1>Future of Life Institute. He is expected to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the good and bad of AI. But first this week,

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<v Speaker 1>I took a road trip to Mountain View, California. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I took a road trip in an all electric suv.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another story. I was testing it out. The new

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<v Speaker 1>Rivian software lets you charge at Tesla superchargers, so I

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<v Speaker 1>tested out that functionality on my way up to Google

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<v Speaker 1>their bay View headquarters in Mountain View. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new building. It's got like a lizard skin ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't know what you call it, roof tiles.

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<v Speaker 1>They're kind of solar. It's really really cool looking. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's where they held there Made by Google event. Typically

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<v Speaker 1>they hold this event in New York City every year.

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<v Speaker 1>This time they brought it home to San Francisco and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good one. First off, all about AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Google is going all in on AI. Now, we already

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<v Speaker 1>heard this same story from Samsung We heard the same

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<v Speaker 1>story from Apple. But Google is in a unique position

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<v Speaker 1>because they have been working on AI for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time. Most of it has been behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>powering a lot of the features on their products. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying, you know what, no, we're front and center.

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<v Speaker 1>This stuff is out there. Gemini is our baby, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's sort of their answer to chat GPS, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to put that in every product that we make.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if you've noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>If you log onto Gmail, if you log onto Google Search,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go onto Docs, YouTube, it has AI built

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<v Speaker 1>in in various ways. So for email, it might say

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<v Speaker 1>summarize this email. At the top of your search results,

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<v Speaker 1>you might get an AI powered search result. In Google Docs,

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<v Speaker 1>Gemini pops up and says, hey, do you want some

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<v Speaker 1>help with this document? So they are all over the

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<v Speaker 1>place with their AI, and they made a point to

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<v Speaker 1>take a dig at Apple saying, hey, we're making AI

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone can access. We're making AI that's built into

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<v Speaker 1>all of our products, not just our flagship top of

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<v Speaker 1>the line products. If you remember with Apple their AI,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Intelligence is only going to be available on the

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone fifteen Pro and higher. That means a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people have to upgrade this next cycle with their phone

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<v Speaker 1>if they want to get access to Apple's AI. With Google,

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<v Speaker 1>they are bringing it across all kinds of products and

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of phones.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The new lineup includes the Pixel nine, the Pixel nine Pro,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Pixel nine Pro x L. They've got this

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<v Speaker 1>new processor inside called the Tensor G four. Not the

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<v Speaker 1>best processor in the world. Hopefully it's a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>Runs kind of warm, runs kind of slow, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>been their little baby for a while now hopefully it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better. In these new phones, improved durability,

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<v Speaker 1>larger display options. So what I like that they've done.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the basic phone, which is the Pixel nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got the Pixel nine Pro that comes in

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<v Speaker 1>two sizes, so you can now get the same specs,

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<v Speaker 1>but choose the size phone that you want to carry around.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're like me, I've been carrying a big

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<v Speaker 1>phone for a while, I'm kind of ready for a

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<v Speaker 1>smaller device, So you can get it in a six

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<v Speaker 1>point three inch size or a six point eight inch size.

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<v Speaker 1>They also went with an improved camera setup, improved front

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<v Speaker 1>camera on the Pro models and the RAM. These things

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<v Speaker 1>have minimum twelve gigabytes of RAM in the Pixel nine.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Pixel pros they've got sixteen gigabytes of RAM,

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<v Speaker 1>that is as much as a laptop computer. And Google

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<v Speaker 1>says they're doing that because of the AI intensive tasks.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had an older Pixel and you notice the

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<v Speaker 1>fingerprint reader was a little slow, little wonky, it's now

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent faster. I have not noticed any issues on

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<v Speaker 1>the review unit that I have, which is the Pixel nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't give you my full review just yet, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you I am loving it all right. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some of the new features on these devices.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, Gemini Live. This is wild. This is their

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<v Speaker 1>version of sort of a conversational AI assistant. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you people are going to have relationships with these ais

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<v Speaker 1>because they sound so lifelike. You can choose from ten

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<v Speaker 1>different voices. They are all incredibly realistic, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>talk to them back and forth like you would a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can just chat.

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<v Speaker 1>You can put your earbut in and chat back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can just chat with them on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>You can interrupt them. You could just say stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, I was asking about the new pans that

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<v Speaker 1>I bought, like, what's the deal with nonstick pans?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they good for you? Bad for you?

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<v Speaker 1>And and I just answered like a regular person what

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty incredible And it stays around in the background,

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<v Speaker 1>so even if your phone is closed you can are locked,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still talk to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Scary, scary, but kind of cool at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the other new AI features. Pixel Studio is

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<v Speaker 1>now a new app on these phones that is an

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<v Speaker 1>image generator, and it's one of the best I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>using AI. It's fast, it's simple, it's free, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>scary good. Pixel Screenshots is a new app that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>very simple, but it's actually quite powerful. So you know

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<v Speaker 1>all those screenshots you do on your phone to remember stuff, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this index is them, so you can go back and

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<v Speaker 1>easily search the information in those. So if you get

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<v Speaker 1>an invite to a party, you screenshot it, next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could just search a keyword on that

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<v Speaker 1>invite find the information fast. It also kind of categorizes

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<v Speaker 1>these things. It gives all the original information from the

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<v Speaker 1>website that you screenshotted. So if you screenshot it a

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<v Speaker 1>purse that you're looking to get as a gift, for someone.

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<v Speaker 1>You can actually tap that information and go back to

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<v Speaker 1>that original website, so it keeps more of that rich

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<v Speaker 1>mat of data. Really really useful. Kind of cool pixel

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<v Speaker 1>weather app. I don't know why Google made such a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal out of redoing their weather app. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's weather app, but it has AI generated reports right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So for instance, where I am, let me do the

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<v Speaker 1>weather report, So you tap the AI generated weather report.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't automatically, I guess it does automatically show it.

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<v Speaker 1>It says warm day with a high UV index, so

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to protect yourself from the sun. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it gives a couple other little insights. So AI Weather

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<v Speaker 1>Report kind of cool, kind of fun. Then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>this new adme feature. This is kind of a wild one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you're taking a picture with someone and

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<v Speaker 1>it's only just two of you, you got to take

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<v Speaker 1>a selfie. Maybe you ask someone else take can you

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<v Speaker 1>take our picture? Well, now you have the first person

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<v Speaker 1>stand there, take their picture. Then you swap. You go

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<v Speaker 1>have that person take the phone. You go stand there

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<v Speaker 1>and it merges the two photos together. You kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see a little ghost of the other person, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can line up the picture just right, and it merges

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<v Speaker 1>the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>In my experience testing this over the past couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not perfect, but it is brand new, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're still working on.

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<v Speaker 2>It, but it's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see if it actually lives past like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the interesting novelty of it, versus like you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Later on.

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<v Speaker 1>They improve panoramic pictures. I mean, have you taken a

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<v Speaker 1>panoramic picture in a while? I haven't, but they improve those.

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<v Speaker 1>They also have a new call notes feature, so the

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<v Speaker 1>phone will record your conversations and give you a transcript

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<v Speaker 1>and summary when you're done. I know it sounds scary,

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<v Speaker 1>but Apple's doing the same exact thing. And for me,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife tells me a list of things I have

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<v Speaker 1>to do, I hang up the phone that I go, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, what I have to do?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be I'm going to be a better

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<v Speaker 2>husband because of this feature. I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>Satellite SOS again, something that debuted on the iPhone two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, is now coming to the Pixels. It's on

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<v Speaker 1>there so if you are in an area without cellular

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<v Speaker 1>or without Wi Fi, you can text for help. That

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<v Speaker 1>is incredible. Samsung can't believe they didn't come out with that,

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<v Speaker 1>because now the Pixel's got it, Now the iPhone has it.

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung better have that with the next go around on

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<v Speaker 1>their devices. Seven years of operating system updates and security

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<v Speaker 1>updates and new features seven years, So this phone's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>last for a while. Eight hundred bucks for the Pixel nine,

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand bucks for the Pixel nine Pro, eleven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for the Pixel nine pro Xcel. These are in

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<v Speaker 1>stores beginning on August twenty second. The Pixel nine Pro

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<v Speaker 1>is September fourth. By the way, they come with two

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<v Speaker 1>terabytes of cloud storage. The iPhone comes with five gigabytes.

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<v Speaker 1>Two terabytes of cloud storage. That's only for a year,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you fill it up, be prepared to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, storage after that. Also, they came out

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<v Speaker 1>with the Pixel nine Pro fold This is their brand

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<v Speaker 1>new foldable phone, and again it's a much better version

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<v Speaker 1>of the original foldable. It's much thinner, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>two phones kind of slap together, and it's much lighter.

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<v Speaker 1>Not much lighter, but it's lighter. That's eighteen hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That arrives on septem number fourth. The fold is much

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<v Speaker 1>better and I think they're going to find a much

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<v Speaker 1>bigger audience for this phone, but I still don't really

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<v Speaker 1>see the universal appeal of a foldable phone for the

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<v Speaker 1>average person who is not looking to spend eighteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on a smartphone. All right, there you have it

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<v Speaker 1>from Made by Google. You can find more on the website.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on Tech dot TV. Coming up, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk more tech news. But first it's your turn. Your

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<v Speaker 1>calls at eighty eight rich one oh one. That's eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.

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<v Speaker 2>Gimme a call.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you,

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<v Speaker 1>talking technology at triple eight rich one oh one. That's

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea this morning when I posted a

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<v Speaker 1>little video to u Instagram my Instagram at rich on

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<v Speaker 1>Tech just how controversial evs are. I posted a video

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<v Speaker 1>of me charging o Rivian at a Tesla supercharger, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, does this change your mind about getting an

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<v Speaker 1>EV And wow, did the comments come.

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<v Speaker 2>In hot and heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not realize that half of America doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of an EV maybe more. And the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>for not liking it range from too expensive, don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like charging, takes too long to charge, just everything, the

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<v Speaker 1>batteries are not good for the environment. Lots of different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, if you want to post your comment, I

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<v Speaker 1>am reading them because I'm getting a kick out of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go to at rich on tech on Instagram. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the phones. Let's go to Corey in Costa, Mesa. Corey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey man, thank you for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what can I help you with?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 5>I saw on your Instagram the post about freezing your

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<v Speaker 5>credit and I read the blog post, but I must

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<v Speaker 5>have missed it, and I was a little confused. How

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<v Speaker 5>exactly do you do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good question.

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<v Speaker 1>So freezing your credit A lot of people have been

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<v Speaker 1>asking me about this because this big data hack of

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<v Speaker 1>two point seven billion records, including social security numbers. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can go online, you can check this database and

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<v Speaker 1>it will tell you if your information was leaked, and

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough, for a lot of people it has been.

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<v Speaker 1>So I never really thought about doing a credit freeze before.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically, once you freeze your credit and you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it all online. Nobody can open up as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I know, nobody can open up any credit account

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<v Speaker 1>in your name or pretty much any account in your

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<v Speaker 1>name because it's frozen. So when they put your social

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<v Speaker 1>into the bank computer, it says, nope, we gotta this

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<v Speaker 1>is frozen.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't do anything with this person.

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<v Speaker 1>So it protects you basically from identity theft as I

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<v Speaker 1>understand it, and it seems scary, it's it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work, but honestly, I did it yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>morning in about i'd say thirty minutes for all three bureaus.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's three major credit reporting bureaus. There's Equifax, there

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<v Speaker 1>is TransUnion and Experience. And the thing is what's tricky

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<v Speaker 1>about them is that they are all at this point

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<v Speaker 1>trying to sell you on services like credit monitoring, credit improvement,

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<v Speaker 1>credit lock, whatever it is. But a credit freeze is free,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is instant, and it's very simple to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I put the links. I'll put them on the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. But Rich on tech dot TV hit the

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<v Speaker 1>light bulb up at the top. This is show number

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five. I'll put all the links there so you

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<v Speaker 1>can get the direct links because once you log in,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of tricky to find the links on these

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<v Speaker 1>different websites because they hide them.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want people to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, TransUnion, their entire business is selling these credit reports

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<v Speaker 1>to banks and other places credit cards that they subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>to get this information, so they don't want people frozen

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<v Speaker 1>because it MUCKs up the whole system. But it's in

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<v Speaker 1>your best interest if you're exposed on one of these

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<v Speaker 1>data breaches. So anyway you go to the website, you

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<v Speaker 1>sign up for the websites, you have to create a

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<v Speaker 1>log in. When you create a log in, be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to create a strong, unique password. You do have to

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<v Speaker 1>provide some information, some personal information to verify you are

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<v Speaker 1>who you say you are. And then once you're logged in,

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<v Speaker 1>you can then navigate to these links that let you

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<v Speaker 1>freeze your credit and you can place a freeze in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, you can unfreeze in another moment, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>very very simple. So that is the process. I found

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<v Speaker 1>it to be very easy. And the main thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that you do need to keep track of your log

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<v Speaker 1>in for these these different credit reporting agencies because if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't, if you ever need to unfreeze your credit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you're buying a house, you would need to

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<v Speaker 1>unfreeze your credit report. So that is the main thing

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<v Speaker 1>to know. If you're not opening up a credit card

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<v Speaker 1>or a bank account or a house loan, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an issue. It's only an issue when you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do something with your credit. So it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea. You know, they have made it a

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<v Speaker 1>lot easier than in previous years now that everything's online.

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<v Speaker 1>But good question, Corey, Thanks for that question, appreciate it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people we're going to talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>with our next guest, but a lot of people reeling

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<v Speaker 1>from this major data breach. Two point seven billion records

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<v Speaker 1>of personal information for US residents were leaked on a

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<v Speaker 1>hacking form name social security numbers, physical addresses, aliases. It

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<v Speaker 1>all comes from a company named National Public Data. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a company that collects and sells access to personal data,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly for background checks. This was two hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>seven gigabytes of data. I checked mine, I checked my moms,

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<v Speaker 1>I checked other people's and it's a lot. It's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's scary because we've seen data breaches before, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is very very complex information on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people all at once, and so you can guarantee that

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<v Speaker 1>this will get into the wrong hands and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start seeing a lot of issues. This is only you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three four days in The information was leaked back in

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<v Speaker 1>April apparently, but it wasn't available on the open web

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<v Speaker 1>or the dark web. So now that it's available and

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<v Speaker 1>it's out there, that's when the scam artists start taking

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<v Speaker 1>this information and they start doing stuff with it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the information is out of date. It even

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<v Speaker 1>had my phone number from when I was growing up

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<v Speaker 1>was on this database. I mean I still remember it

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<v Speaker 1>like it was yesterday. I can still recite that phone number.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how many phone numbers can you remember? At

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<v Speaker 1>this point I was going through with my mom. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, can we how many phone numbers can we recite?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really only a couple. But teacher, kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the vital ones, yours and your grandparents whatever, All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight eight eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four one zero one. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me a call if you have a question about technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, we're gonna talk more about this data brea

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<v Speaker 1>each with the smartest guy in the room, Ryan Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 1>founder of the cybersecurity firm pen Tester.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology. The phone lines are open

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<v Speaker 1>at eight eight eight rich one oh one. That's eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a question about technology, give me a call.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise you can go to the website rich on Tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot TV hit contact, send your message that way. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get back to the phones in just a moment here.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, uh, bringing on the man of the hour,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Montgomery, founder of the cybersecurity firm pen Tester.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, nice to meet you, Rich. I spoke to you

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<v Speaker 6>last oh yeah, a couple of days ago. But it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's awesome being on the show and I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 6>inviting me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I know you've you've had quite the whirlwind week.

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<v Speaker 1>So mediately you run this cybersecurity firm. Explain what Pentester

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<v Speaker 1>does briefly.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so the short form of what Pentester does is, originally,

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<v Speaker 6>we built the platform around if anyone knows who I am,

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<v Speaker 6>we built the platform around investigating individuals, so you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I hunt down child predators and counter human trafficking. So

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<v Speaker 6>we figured, okay, let's build some build some tools for

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<v Speaker 6>open source intelligence, which is just a fancy word for

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<v Speaker 6>finding things about people online. Our platform, we figured, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>we can put this in the in the standard person's

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<v Speaker 6>hands and they can see their entire digital footprint and

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<v Speaker 6>then give them the option to remove all of that data,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, from all of these data broker websites, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 6>and know what breaches they're in with their passwords, their

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<v Speaker 6>credit cards, their socials, you know, the family members, you

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<v Speaker 6>name it. It's basically it's out there. There's just not

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<v Speaker 6>a centralized place to view it all. So originally we

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<v Speaker 6>built it for businesses and we didn't have the complete

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<v Speaker 6>function for personal, and then we realized the demand for

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<v Speaker 6>personal and we decided we're going to do whatever it takes.

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<v Speaker 6>And we were told literally by an attorney that it

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<v Speaker 6>would be a disservice to our customers if we did

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<v Speaker 6>not get breaches immediately as they were released to the public,

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<v Speaker 6>so we got to go ahead on that. We have stayed,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, true to that mission, and we have the

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<v Speaker 6>largest database in the world of breach credentials as well

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<v Speaker 6>as personal information as the other indicators. I just told

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<v Speaker 6>you recently, this database just came up. I was you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I downloaded it immediately as I saw it became public.

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<v Speaker 6>There's you know, roughly three billion records in it. It

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<v Speaker 6>was one one heck of a task to get all

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<v Speaker 6>of that into a database that was searchable for the

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<v Speaker 6>average person to and make it fast in the process

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<v Speaker 6>and handle like the traffic at the moment, we're getting

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<v Speaker 6>about twenty thousand users on the website, you know, at

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<v Speaker 6>per moment. So we had a huge, huge technical job

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<v Speaker 6>basically to make that thing stand up. And it's standing tall, thankfully.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, it's a it's it's very bad. What we're

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<v Speaker 6>what we're dealing with right now is probably the worst

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<v Speaker 6>breach in the United States that I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wild, I I I would agree with that. And

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<v Speaker 1>and so a couple of things. First off, the regular

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<v Speaker 1>scan that you give, the digital footprint and scan that

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<v Speaker 1>you've always had on your website at pentester dot com

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<v Speaker 1>is just unbelievably complete and wild. The information that you

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<v Speaker 1>reveal on there, So just that is like all the

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<v Speaker 1>old stuff before this new stuff, and it's like so

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<v Speaker 1>eye opening more so than any other like data broker

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<v Speaker 1>kind of remover website I've ever seen. But the new

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<v Speaker 1>tool is at NPD dot pentester dot com and that's

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<v Speaker 1>where you have this new database of this uh social

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<v Speaker 1>security number breach. I mean, so once you see your

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<v Speaker 1>information in there, what do you think people should do?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the freeze the credit report? Is that the

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<v Speaker 1>best advice?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>So so when you when you look up your information,

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<v Speaker 6>so NPD like National Public Database dot penttester dot com.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's the acronym as you said, we threw it

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<v Speaker 6>up there. You put in your first name, your last

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<v Speaker 6>name that that's any state that you've ever lived in,

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<v Speaker 6>not just the current state. Make sure you tried different

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<v Speaker 6>variations of spelling for your name, if you have a

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<v Speaker 6>maiden name or a different last name. Also searched that

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<v Speaker 6>because we can't you know, there's no way for us

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<v Speaker 6>to relate one record to another, so you know, make

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<v Speaker 6>sure when you're searching, you don't just assume, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the state that you're living in with your current name

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<v Speaker 6>is not in there. I found, you know, I found

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<v Speaker 6>data that comes back twenty thirty years, Like yeah, my mom.

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<v Speaker 6>For example, my mom, her her credit I'm sorry, not

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<v Speaker 6>her credit, her her address from when she was a

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<v Speaker 6>teenager is in this database.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's a really wide ranging database. Like I,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I found my phone number from when

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<v Speaker 1>I was grown up as a kid was part of

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<v Speaker 1>this database.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is like, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Like where they got it. You know, I know there

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<v Speaker 6>were a background check company, but who gave them this data?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And so so now that this is out there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an example. You know, there's this idea of the

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<v Speaker 1>dark web, right, so can you explain what that means exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And also, like, once your information's out there in the

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<v Speaker 1>dark web, it's kind of tough to like get it

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<v Speaker 1>out of there, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, it's actually impossible. So when something you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the word dark web can mean many things. In the

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<v Speaker 6>technical realm, it means you're connecting to a network called

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<v Speaker 6>tour t R. The dark web, in most people's eyes

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<v Speaker 6>is just like the scary, dark, black black market of

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<v Speaker 6>the Internet. But really, in regards to this, it just

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<v Speaker 6>means the database is released two hackers, good or bad,

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<v Speaker 6>or for people that just commit fraud, maybe they're not hackers.

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<v Speaker 6>They can download these this database, they can search through it.

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<v Speaker 6>They they'll be able to see your entire social Security number,

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<v Speaker 6>along with every address that you've lived at, maybe your

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<v Speaker 6>current phone number, maybe an old one, and then the

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<v Speaker 6>rest of your family. And that's that's basically enough information

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<v Speaker 6>to open up a credit card, run a credit report,

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<v Speaker 6>buy a car, are maybe you know, do whatever they

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<v Speaker 6>want to do with your information, and that data is

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<v Speaker 6>gonna is going to circulate on the dark web, as

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<v Speaker 6>you asked forever, that's never going to go away as

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<v Speaker 6>well as you know. You know, we can remove your

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<v Speaker 6>data from data brokers and we can alert you of this,

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<v Speaker 6>but we cannot remove your data off of individual people's

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<v Speaker 6>computers when they download the data for themselves. So my

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<v Speaker 6>recommendation is really what you said as well, is is

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<v Speaker 6>to just freeze your credit. Whether you're in this database

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<v Speaker 6>or not, freeze it. It doesn't hurt it in any way,

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<v Speaker 6>it doesn't benefit it doesn't benefit me in any way

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<v Speaker 6>to tell you to do it. It's it's and another good

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<v Speaker 6>thing that people I got a lot of questions about this.

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<v Speaker 6>By freezing your credit, it doesn't stop your score from

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<v Speaker 6>going up or down. It doesn't. It doesn't affect your

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<v Speaker 6>credit in any negative way. The only inconveniences if you

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<v Speaker 6>if you go to you know, upgrade the limit on

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<v Speaker 6>your credit card, or buy a car, all the things

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<v Speaker 6>I mentioned. You just sign into all the three bureaus

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<v Speaker 6>individually on your phone, or if you don't know how

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<v Speaker 6>to do that, you can call into all three and

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<v Speaker 6>unfreeze it. It's a click of a button on their

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<v Speaker 6>website or a phone call way for each one of them,

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<v Speaker 6>and you freeze it or unfreeze it, and as soon

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<v Speaker 6>as you're done doing what you're doing with your credit,

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<v Speaker 6>just freeze it again. And and you know with with

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<v Speaker 6>you know almost certainty that you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 6>affected by this breach.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, So what do you make of all this? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this information that's floating around out there. You've got average

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<v Speaker 1>people who are working, they're busy, they've got kids, family,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other things they're dealing with, and there's this

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<v Speaker 1>whole world of just like we're always inundated with like

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<v Speaker 1>scams and texts and links and phishing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, your job's never going away.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I mean it's a it's good and bad at

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<v Speaker 6>the same time. It's a it's a it's very unfortunate

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<v Speaker 6>that that, you know, almost our entire country was breached

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<v Speaker 6>in the last few days. Yeah, my uh, my job,

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<v Speaker 6>Tensester dot com is not going anywhere, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's a blessing and a curse. To be honest with you, Rich.

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<v Speaker 1>And how do you think the average person if you

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<v Speaker 1>can give them some advice, what would it be.

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<v Speaker 2>In the last minute here.

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<v Speaker 6>My advice would be to to you know, this is

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<v Speaker 6>this is not me trying to sell my platform. I

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<v Speaker 6>just as Rich said, he saw other data broke removal

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<v Speaker 6>platforms and what they do is great. The thing that

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<v Speaker 6>they don't do is show you your entire digital footprint,

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<v Speaker 6>which is something that you should all know. You should

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<v Speaker 6>know if you're in a wedding photo from ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 6>when you search your face, you know, maybe maybe you

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<v Speaker 6>want to do reverse facial recognition on yourself, or you know,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe you want to see what passwords were associated with

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<v Speaker 6>every email you've ever had, or maybe you forgot about

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<v Speaker 6>an email that you had back in the AOL days

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<v Speaker 6>and that has a password or some private information associated

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<v Speaker 6>with you. And then lastly, uh, you know, do the

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<v Speaker 6>social accounts so we identify based on your phone number

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<v Speaker 6>and email addresses which accounts you're signed up for, so

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<v Speaker 6>you know, for yourself, it's nice to know out what's

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<v Speaker 6>out there, and the way to get rid of that

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<v Speaker 6>is just to lead that account if you don't want it.

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<v Speaker 6>And then another thing for your children, if you you know,

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<v Speaker 6>if you don't want your children on certain websites or

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<v Speaker 6>you want to know what sites they're on, you can

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<v Speaker 6>add them as an identity and you could do this

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<v Speaker 6>securely through our website and and then we'll be able

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<v Speaker 6>to tell you with absolute certainty which websites that they

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<v Speaker 6>are they're registered to, which is a very unique offering

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<v Speaker 6>that no one else has either.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, and a couple other things, real quick virus protection

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<v Speaker 1>on your computer. Do you recommend that or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think Windows Defender is good enough? And also VPN When

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<v Speaker 1>should someone use that?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so Windows Defenders has gotten better over the years,

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<v Speaker 6>I'd recommend some other ones. I like Bitdefender. I also

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<v Speaker 6>like e set, e S, e T. I like them

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<v Speaker 6>as well. Bitdefender has a free version. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 6>if e set does, but I know for sure bitdefender does.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the other question was what did you say VPN.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think people should use a VPN?

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<v Speaker 6>Ever, Yeah, well, VPN can hurt so if you're in

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<v Speaker 6>a public place. And I've made many videos about Wi

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<v Speaker 6>Fi hacking and networks vulnerabilities just in general, and I

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<v Speaker 6>like to simplify my contest so people understand it. But

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<v Speaker 6>something interesting about a VPN is it stops a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of these attacks that the average hacker could do on

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<v Speaker 6>your network. Not only does it protect your privacy on

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<v Speaker 6>the other side of things when you connect to a website,

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<v Speaker 6>but on your local network where if you're on a

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<v Speaker 6>public network I got Starbucks or at the airport, it

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<v Speaker 6>protects you from those attacks as well. So I'd highly

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<v Speaker 6>recommend a VPN. There's there's gonna be people out there

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<v Speaker 6>that care about if a VPN logs what you do

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<v Speaker 6>or they don't log what you do. All of them,

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<v Speaker 6>for the most part, they're gonna claim they don't log it.

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<v Speaker 6>I know that IVPN doesn't log mole because that was

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<v Speaker 6>proven in the Supreme Court. That's one I know for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the second one, Mullavad you can mail them cash

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<v Speaker 6>and with an account number and they'll activate it. So

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<v Speaker 6>even if they do store logs, which I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>they do, but let's say they do. They don't even

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<v Speaker 6>know who you are. Wow, So you know it's nice

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<v Speaker 6>to have. It's it's it's to be extra safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Ryan Montgomery, We're gonna leave it there, founder

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<v Speaker 1>of pen Tester, the cybersecurity firm. Definitely go to NPD

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<v Speaker 1>dotpentester dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>And Ryan, what's the best way for folks to follow

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<v Speaker 2>you online?

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<v Speaker 6>The best way to follow me if you want to

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<v Speaker 6>learn more than obviously the MPD breach right now is

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<v Speaker 6>something that definitely, you know, act on, but if you

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<v Speaker 6>want to follow and learn some more stuff about, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>get cars being hacked, your garage door being hacked, how

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<v Speaker 6>people can steal your credit card, hack your phone. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I make short videos thirty sixty seconds long on all platforms,

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<v Speaker 6>but right now, the most active is my Instagram and

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<v Speaker 6>that's at zero, like the digit zero day, like day

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<v Speaker 6>night is zero day. So Instagram is the best ways

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<v Speaker 6>the place to find me at the moment, at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We're gonna leave it there. Thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for joining me on the show today. But I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>all those links on the website Richontech dot TV eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight rich one oh one. Coming up, Samsung is

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<v Speaker 1>expanding its AI powered Circle to search feature to more devices.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it yours?

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<v Speaker 1>Find out? Coming up right here on rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology. The phone number for the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eight eight eight rich one on one, that's

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero on.

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<v Speaker 1>We just got some great information about that massive data breach.

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<v Speaker 1>It is all linked up on the website. Our guests

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<v Speaker 1>shared some great tools, not only a way to check

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<v Speaker 1>to see if you've been breached, but also some of

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<v Speaker 1>the security programs that he recommended for free free anti virus,

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<v Speaker 1>and also the VPNs and his Instagram. So I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to all linked up on the website. Go to rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech dot TV. Hit the light bulb icon up

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<v Speaker 1>at the top and that should bring you to the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. We're show number eighty five today, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can just look for that and the guest Ryan Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 1>all of his information is there really really good information.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Eric in the Inland umpire. Eric, you're

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<v Speaker 1>on with rich.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, rich thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how can I help.

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<v Speaker 8>I jumped on.

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<v Speaker 5>Jumped in the truck right at the top of the show.

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<v Speaker 9>And you were mentioning something about AI tools embedded in

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<v Speaker 9>your phones that transcribe your phone calls. And given the context,

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<v Speaker 9>I missed what the name of it was, but given

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<v Speaker 9>the context, it sounded like a Google service. Our company

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<v Speaker 9>uses Apple products. Is there a service similar to that

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<v Speaker 9>that we can implement for our program managers and stuff

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<v Speaker 9>to utilize these tools? And then I have another question

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<v Speaker 9>when you when you answer that one great question.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, the feature that I mentioned is coming to

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<v Speaker 1>the Pixel. It's called call notes and basically, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a call, you can tap and it will record

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<v Speaker 1>the phone call. Yes, there's privacy concerns, but the according

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<v Speaker 1>to the Google folks I spoke to, it says a recording.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, hey, this call is being recorded by Google.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can hang up if you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of that whatever. So that's happening

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<v Speaker 1>with with the Pixel side of things. And basically when

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<v Speaker 1>you hang up, it will give you the transcript of

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<v Speaker 1>your phone call and it will summarize that transcript as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So if someone set a phone number or an account number,

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you know, notes that you have in that call.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll summarize that, which is very handy. You said you

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<v Speaker 1>use the iPhone side of things. Apple's also coming out

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<v Speaker 1>with this as well. So iOS eighteen will have a

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<v Speaker 1>feature that I don't know if they've given it a name,

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<v Speaker 1>a proper name, but it's basically a call recording, same

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<v Speaker 1>exact feature, it's the same exact thing. So it's built

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<v Speaker 1>into the iPhone. When you download iOS eighteen and you

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<v Speaker 1>get this Apple Intelligence, it will let you record the

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<v Speaker 1>phone call and it will summarize the call and give

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<v Speaker 1>you a transcript afterwards. So that is the main thing

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<v Speaker 1>to know here is that it has to be on

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<v Speaker 1>compatible devices.

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<v Speaker 2>So the question is it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like it's going to be available on any

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<v Speaker 1>device that works with iOS eighteen. Do't need an iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen proto unlock it, so only the transcript summary uses AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's a good, good thing for your for your company.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's gonna come out. That's going to come

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<v Speaker 1>out in September, So basically, come September, you know we've

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<v Speaker 1>got this. I've got the new pixel here. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see that feature just yet on the pixel that they

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<v Speaker 1>provided me as my review unit. But I assume maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's coming out any day now on there,

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<v Speaker 1>but then on Apple it'll be usually September where this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is coming.

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<v Speaker 9>Out awesome, So we don't have to wait much longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Not much longer. I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 1>In the future, every phone, everything's going to be recorded,

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<v Speaker 1>not just phone calls. There's like there are pendants that

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to be able to wear that will

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<v Speaker 1>record all the time, so that you can transcribe your world,

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<v Speaker 1>like your life and just remember notes. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's quite incredible. I know it's scary, it sounds weird,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, there are some business use cases for

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, like you mentioned. You know, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the doctor, you know, they always tell you

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff at the end of your appointment and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't remember any of it, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they give you this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they don't give you notes. What was the

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<v Speaker 2>second question?

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<v Speaker 9>So the second part of my question is our company

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<v Speaker 9>we process ap uh daily and we are just getting

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<v Speaker 9>absolutely buried in invoices and packing slips and whatever other

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<v Speaker 9>nonsense you can you can picture. For a large construction company,

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<v Speaker 9>of the paperwork flow. Is there a program that you

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<v Speaker 9>like the best or that you recommend the best that

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<v Speaker 9>AI can help us optimize this this constant barrage of paperwork,

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<v Speaker 9>whether that be.

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<v Speaker 6>An email inbox that.

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<v Speaker 9>Is dedicated to an AI reader, AI process, or how

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<v Speaker 9>how can we optimize this better? Because we're getting our

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<v Speaker 9>our rear ends sticked uh with this just constant barrage

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<v Speaker 9>of paperwork fairly large company, so it needs to be

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<v Speaker 9>a pretty uh you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Heavy duty solution.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well that so that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so a lot of people have been using

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the kind of consumer aspect of chatchybt Claude

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<v Speaker 1>Gemini for their you know, very consumer oriented things, and

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>of course anyone who works at a company, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe kind of dabbling with these tools to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how they can use them in their in

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<v Speaker 1>their workflow, you know, writing emails better, all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. When it comes to a large corporation, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to have a uh an enterprise solution for that,

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<v Speaker 1>because number one, you've got data security. You cannot just

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<v Speaker 1>be putting in your private uh you know, accounts payable

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<v Speaker 1>information into some random uh AI.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're going to have to go. I'm guessing the big.

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<v Speaker 1>Providers that you're already using for some of these workflows

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<v Speaker 1>are probably working on AI integrations. I think right now

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little tricky because it's all about the privacy,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you need to know that the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you're using is not going to be feeding your information

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<v Speaker 1>out into the larger web or into the database of

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<v Speaker 1>these AI companies. So I know, you know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to look at the enterprise stuff from Microsoft, Salesforce, all

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of big companies that are working on the

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<v Speaker 1>enterprise side of things. I don't have a company or

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<v Speaker 1>a solution that I like personally because I'm not really

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the corporate side of things. Mostly I'm doing

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the consumer side. But that's kind of where I would

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<v Speaker 1>look is the companies that you're already dealing with, see,

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, see what they're looking at when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to AI. Maybe they already have the solutions, maybe they don't,

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>or it might be that you have to go with

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>one of these startups. But again, a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>on the back end are using something like the chat

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<v Speaker 1>GBT or the the open AI APIs great questions today, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the calls. Eight eight eight rich one oh

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to another

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<v Speaker 1>is where I actually tell you the stuff that I

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<v Speaker 1>think you should know. Because I am covering this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis, I'm keeping track of it, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>organizing it. I'm making sure the stuff that I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should know is on this show. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>say it at the beginning of every show. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just random stuff to get you to listen, or random

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to you know, get you mad or angry. It

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<v Speaker 1>is stuff that I think you need to know as

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<v Speaker 1>a person that's busy, someone that's working, someone that has

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<v Speaker 1>things to do. That's why you listen to me so

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<v Speaker 1>that I can break this stuff down for you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do thank you for tuning in and listening. The

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<v Speaker 1>website for the show Rich on tech dot TV. The

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<v Speaker 1>phone number eight eight eight Rich one oh one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>This show a lot of it does focus on Google

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<v Speaker 1>because Google just had their event this week, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still going through some of the different products that

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<v Speaker 1>they announced.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you about two.

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<v Speaker 1>More of those, and then later on in this hour,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have some interviews with the Google folks to

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<v Speaker 1>go more in depth on those. Sophie wrote in on

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<v Speaker 1>the website, Hey, Rich, I'm listening today. You mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>so fast I cannot get the name of the app.

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<v Speaker 1>I take a lot of screenshots. It's an app to

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<v Speaker 1>help categorize them and pull them up. It's Google something. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I have an iPhone fourteen. Is it just for Android

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<v Speaker 1>or no, thanks Sophie. Sophie, it is called the Pixel

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<v Speaker 1>screen Shots app, and yes, it's built into the new

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<v Speaker 1>Pixel smartphones. No word yet whether this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>come to other Android phones, but It's a really smart app. Basically,

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>every time you take a screenshot on your phone, it

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<v Speaker 1>indexes the information and that screenshot to make it searchable.

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.800
<v Speaker 1>You can also categorize them. So let's say you're taking

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>screenshots of gifts or gift ideas or places you want

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 1>to go on your vacation. You can put them into

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 1>categories as well. It's using a lot of AI plus

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you can tap the screenshot to go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>original website, which is smart as well. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling someone is going to make something like this for

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone. It's not unheard of to make an app

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<v Speaker 1>like this for the iPhone pretty easy and pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it should be Google because they already have

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<v Speaker 1>the technology. The problem is these companies like to have

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<v Speaker 1>stuff exclusively for their products. We're seeing a tech world

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<v Speaker 1>where more and more it's getting highly competitive, and so

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>these every company pretty much kind of holds back a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit where they have these things start on their

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<v Speaker 1>products specifically or a specific model of a tech product

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.399
<v Speaker 1>that's new, and then eventually later on it will come

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<v Speaker 1>to other products. Case in point, Google Circle to Search.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that launched on the Samsung S twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four lineup of smartphones. It's a very cool way to search,

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<v Speaker 1>where you press and hold on the home button and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can tap or circle or highlight anything on

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<v Speaker 1>your screen to search Google. And this was a collaboration

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<v Speaker 1>between Samsung and Google to come up with a killer

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<v Speaker 1>new feature that would sell a lot of smartphones. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if it's sold a lot of smartphones,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's really helpful. In fact, when I am not

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<v Speaker 1>using an Android phone, I feel lost on the iPhone

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>because you just can't tap the screen to like search something.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you're scrolling through Instagram and you see something cool,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I want more information about that restaurant or

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>those you know, that gadget or whatever you see. You

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<v Speaker 1>could just literally circle to search and it will give

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<v Speaker 1>you all the information. It's really really helpful, and that

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<v Speaker 1>has made its way to more phones.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on a lot of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Pixel smartphones, and now it's coming to the Samsung budget

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<v Speaker 1>line smartphones, the Samsung Galaxy A series, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be available on the Galaxy A fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>the A four, the A thirty five, and the A

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four. So if you don't have a Samsung Galaxy

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<v Speaker 1>S series or Z series. The A series is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the budget line. You're getting Circle to Search, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a really helpful feature, especially for homework. Recent things

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that they added a full page translation homework help QR

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<v Speaker 1>barcode scanning. It's a really handy feature if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see if your phone has it. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>an Android phone, at the bottom of your screen, just

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>press and hold right at the bottom, like almost where

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<v Speaker 1>this screen meets the end of your phone. Just press

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and hold right there and your phone should vibrate and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of light up the screen. And so you do that,

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and then just scribble or circle on your screen and

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<v Speaker 1>you can see if your Circle to Search is on there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really really handy feature. I absolutely love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that I don't think can come to the iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>The closest you've got in the iPhone is a screenshot

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<v Speaker 1>with Google Lens, which is very similar, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot easier of a movement on the on the Android

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<v Speaker 1>side of things. All right, A couple more products quickly

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<v Speaker 1>here from Google pixel Watch three. This is bigger, brighter,

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<v Speaker 1>and all about fitness. Two sizes now they added a

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<v Speaker 1>larger size. It comes in the forty one millimeter and

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<v Speaker 1>a new forty five millimeter option, much bigger screen. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is a much better looking smart watch because

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<v Speaker 1>the screen is actually usable brighter displays. You get forty

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<v Speaker 1>percent more screen on that forty five millimeter display. They

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<v Speaker 1>even made the smaller one have a little bit more display,

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent more, so they pushed it out to the

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<v Speaker 1>edges a little bit more. They've got some new fitness features.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's doing this kind of like daily readiness score, and

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<v Speaker 1>so now the pixel watch is doing that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got this really interesting new feature called loss of

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<v Speaker 1>pulse detection. So a couple weeks ago on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about how these wearables can detect a

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<v Speaker 1>high pulse rate or a low pulse rate. Now this

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 1>is detecting no pulse rate whatsoever. That's something you don't

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>ever want to have, obviously, but now this watch will

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>detect that. Now, this is only approved in Europe at

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the start, so we're not getting this feature in the

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>US at least not right now, but I imagine they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get the proper approving with the FDA. To get

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>that or whoever they have to go through the government

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>agency here in the US to get that loss of

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 1>pulse detection, because basically, if it detects no pulse, it

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>will call for help and text your emergency contacts. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also a new ultra wideband chip in this pixel Watch three,

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 1>which means you can use your phone to unlock digital

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:40.240
<v Speaker 1>car key functionality, which is neat and pricing three hundred

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 1>and fifty dollars for the forty one millimeter and four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars for the forty five millimeter that does not

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>include cellular. Cellular is going to be a little bit

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:52.959
<v Speaker 1>more expensive. Release date is September tenth, twenty twenty four.

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Then you've got some new pixel buds pixel Buds Pro two.

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 1>These are all about AI. They've got GEM, which is

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Google's AI assistant built in. I did take a demo

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>of these up at Google's headquarters and they actually were

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:11.439
<v Speaker 1>very comfortable my ears, very lightweight. Google says they're twenty

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>four percent lighter twenty seven percent smaller than the previous

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 1>pixel Buds Pro, which I did not like. They did

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>not stay in my ears very well. These stayed in

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>my ears much better. They felt much more comfortable and

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 1>much smaller than the old ones. They also have a

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>new custom chip inside, so that's gonna be good for

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>improved audio, and of course the AI. The noise cancelation

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:33.479
<v Speaker 1>was excellent. They put me in a booth. They played

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of noises, really loud noises, like being

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>on an airplane, being on a city street, and then

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:44.360
<v Speaker 1>they turn on the automatic noise cancelation active noise cancelation,

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and all the noises just blended away. So they made

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:51.439
<v Speaker 1>me listen to that. Oh what's that song right now?

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 1>That hot song right now? Sabrina Carpenter, Espresso. What's the

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>other one?

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Please, please please? I don't know. They made me.

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that was Espress. They may be listened to

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 1>by Sabrina Carpenter. That's like all over the radio right now.

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>They also have this new twist to fit feature, so

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you kind of push it into your ear and then

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 1>you twist it and then that makes it fit securely.

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>These start at two hundred and twenty nine dollars. I

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>think that's kind of expensive because there's so many great

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.399
<v Speaker 1>earbuds out there for a lot cheaper. The good news

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 1>is stuff from Google typically gets discounted, So would I

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>would earmark these? No pun intended maybe about a two

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars price tag, but that's still kind of expensive.

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I know it's in line with like the air Pods,

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>but the AirPods Pro. But I think there's in maybe

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess the Samsung, but I feel like there's some

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>other earbuds that you can get for cheaper that are

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>just as good. But again, these work with all the

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Google stuff. These are going to be available on September

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.919
<v Speaker 1>twenty six. Once again, that's the pixel Buds Pro two.

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>All right, eighty eight Rich one O one eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four to one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>The website for the show is rich on tech dot TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to uh max in uh Lake Worth, Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Max. You're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 4>Follow rage Max as you're talking to you, Yeah, thanks

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 4>for coming on.

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<v Speaker 7>Your program A lot. I know that, sudd you. We're

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<v Speaker 7>discussing the security breach and credit freed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 7>So there are three create reporting agencies and as you described,

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<v Speaker 7>people can go and read their credit there's the fourth

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<v Speaker 7>one that you also need to consider. Okay, the four

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<v Speaker 7>post politic check he as Charlie HS Henry he as

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<v Speaker 7>Edward x as x Ray Systems check systems essentially walks

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<v Speaker 7>with banks. But when someone wants to open a checking

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<v Speaker 7>account or setting account, the bank's checks their credit through

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<v Speaker 7>that system. You also have to go there the website,

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<v Speaker 7>the checksystems dot com and uh, go to the post.

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<v Speaker 2>Of putting free Oh yeah, I see it on.

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<v Speaker 10>The records on that system as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good tip, thanks Max.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm looking at the website checksystems dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>uh at the bottom of the website there is a

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<v Speaker 1>link to place a freeze. And so you're saying, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is Oh yeah, okay here it is designed

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent approval of checking savings, credit accounts, loans or

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<v Speaker 1>other services being approved in your name without your consent.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a good one. Good to know about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you done this yourself? Is it easy?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 11>I've uh yeah, actually have full gone by the record

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<v Speaker 11>accounts of records many many moons ago because I realized

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<v Speaker 11>that you cannot thrust anything or anybody the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't even trust you, Max, but I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like what you're talking.

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<v Speaker 7>But I may be a box here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how do I know I'm not talking to How

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<v Speaker 1>do I know I'm not talking to AI?

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<v Speaker 7>And the senior side. Rich you have to be what

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<v Speaker 7>I call these days, you have to be an intelligent paranoid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I ask you.

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<v Speaker 11>If you are not an intelligent paranoid, then everybody can

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<v Speaker 11>take advantage of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Max I one hundred percent agree. Thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>the call. I am so critical of everything. Even when

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<v Speaker 1>my mom calls me, I ask her some verification questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what's your mother's maiden name? Mom?

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<v Speaker 1>Just to make sure we could be tricked very easily.

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<v Speaker 1>on there. Rich on tech dot TV. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>Mark in Woodland Hill's Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Ri Hi him.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm a very high miles annually on cycling, so I'm

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<v Speaker 12>out there quite often for hours at a time cycling,

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<v Speaker 12>and I run an app that gives me in real

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<v Speaker 12>time speed odometers, things of that nature that I can

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<v Speaker 12>tap into. My problem is, with course, here in southern California,

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<v Speaker 12>particularly this season, I need a phone that is heat resistant.

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<v Speaker 12>What I find is a lot of my phones are

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<v Speaker 12>just shutting down from the direct lights, you know, the

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<v Speaker 12>direct sunlight, and I hate to have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>I want to be able to look at the display.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have any.

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<v Speaker 12>Suggestions for heat tolerant smartphones by any chance?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question.

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<v Speaker 1>This happens all the time, especially in southern California. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're running GPS on your phone, so that's definitely contributing

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<v Speaker 1>to the heat. Are you using an iPhone or an Android? Currently?

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<v Speaker 12>Android?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Android? And which model?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm not really a a cell phone cultured person, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a maybe like a Samsung or a

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<v Speaker 1>pixel Samsung.

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, yeah, it's a Samsung.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's okay. So a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, the the older phones don't have as much

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<v Speaker 1>older and less expensive phones don't have as much cooling

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<v Speaker 1>built into them, so that could be number one. But

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<v Speaker 1>in general, I find that when you are out and

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<v Speaker 1>about and your phone is in direct sun, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what brand I've used, they all overheat, and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be tough if you're if you're trying to look

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<v Speaker 1>at your screen on your bike at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>that you're using it at the same time it is

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<v Speaker 1>directly in the sun. So that is, uh, that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a problem no matter what phone you have.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you know what I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>recommend in general, there's actually kind of a cool case

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<v Speaker 1>for a phone called the Fouzi phoo z Y. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was not a believer, and I was at I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I got this at CS or somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a sample of this thing, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, there's no way this thing works. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's like a thermal bag for your phone, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you pop your phone in it and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing it to the uh you know, whether you're skiing

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<v Speaker 1>or if it's cold outside, or whether you're bringing it

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<v Speaker 1>to the beach and it's hot outside, you keep your

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<v Speaker 1>phone in this little pouch. And sure enough, it keeps it,

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<v Speaker 1>It keeps it cool, it keeps it from overheating or

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<v Speaker 1>over freezing. That's phoo z Y, And so I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>to see h Mark if they have a version that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you might be able to put your phone

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<v Speaker 1>in while you're on your bike. You know, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be your best bet. The problem with this is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna be able to see the screen when

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<v Speaker 1>it's in here.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm looking at they've got a cycle collection, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's see maybe they have one that's uh, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a bike specific one that would work, but they do

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<v Speaker 1>mention biking. Yeah, the cycle series. So I'm looking to

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<v Speaker 1>see maybe if they have like a clear one. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see a clear one. But anyway, that is

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<v Speaker 1>probably my best bet if you want to just keep

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<v Speaker 1>your phone not from overheating is to use something like this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're just gonna you may not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>keep your phone where you can see the screen, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least it's not gonna overheat, and the times that

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<v Speaker 1>you do pull it out to see your screen, it

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<v Speaker 1>will still work. So phoo z Y is the uh

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<v Speaker 1>is the device. It's just a pouch. Basically, let me

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<v Speaker 1>see how much these things cost. Usually it's about let's

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<v Speaker 1>see here, thirty, about thirty anywhere from thirty toady to

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<v Speaker 1>forty dollars. They've got a NASA one. That one's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm telling you this thing works. I mean it really,

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<v Speaker 1>it really does work. I'm very impressed with this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the website to go to. Thanks for the

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<v Speaker 1>call today, Mark, appreciate you. Let's see, since you mentioned biking, Google,

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<v Speaker 1>Fippit and Peloton are teaming up. So if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>paid Fitbit premium user. This is a paid user, not

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<v Speaker 1>just if you have a Fitbit, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>paying for their subscription. You'll be able to access some

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<v Speaker 1>Peloton classes starting in September. You're going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>access strength pilates, running, boxing, and oh some classes will

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<v Speaker 1>be available to non premium Fitbit users, but I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>it's a smaller percentage. And then Peloton members they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to cross sell, so they're going to give you special

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<v Speaker 1>offers on the Pixel Watch and Fitbit Charge six. This

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<v Speaker 1>is all coming in September.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Multi year, multi country partnership by Peloton and fitbit.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know you got to check these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's so expensive nowadays, so if you can get some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff for free, why not, right, take advantage eighty eight

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<v Speaker 1>rich one oh one. Get those calls in, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to them in just a bit. Coming up, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk to some of the Google folks about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the products they announced this week.

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<v Speaker 2>This is rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology at triple eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two,

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<v Speaker 1>four to one zero one. Give me a call if

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you have a tech question. We'll get back to the

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<v Speaker 1>lines in just a moment. But first we're taking a

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<v Speaker 1>deeper dive into Google's latest announcements this week. I was

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<v Speaker 1>up in Mountain View at their beautiful Bayview headquarters, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got to talk to some of the key folks

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<v Speaker 1>helping to make their products from smartphones to smart watches

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<v Speaker 1>and smart home devices. First up, Shanaz Zach, senior director

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<v Speaker 1>of Product management for Pixel First. Zach explained how AI

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<v Speaker 1>is changing the game for pixel users.

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<v Speaker 13>It's a phone that is with you almost the whole

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<v Speaker 13>day and the evening and the night. So I me

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<v Speaker 13>think about Pixel as a phone and a device that

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<v Speaker 13>is your personal device. We think of the whole staff,

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<v Speaker 13>the hardware, the software, and the silicon, and then we

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<v Speaker 13>think about, Okay, what are the problems the Pixel is

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<v Speaker 13>going to help you solve to lead a happier, more fruitful,

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<v Speaker 13>more productive life. Right now, that's how we think about it,

0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 13>think of how do we help people with their problems

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<v Speaker 13>and making their lives more fruitful? And in termline too,

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<v Speaker 13>AI and the technology, what is it enabling further enabling?

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<v Speaker 13>Right and you saw that today when Sali Demo did

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<v Speaker 13>with the ear buds. Right now, Gemini Live is in

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<v Speaker 13>my ear bus try to my phone, so if I

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<v Speaker 13>go on a walk, I can just talk to Gemini Live.

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<v Speaker 13>Like I've been literally having these conversations because I have

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<v Speaker 13>a dog. My kids want me to get another dog,

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<v Speaker 13>and so I'm like, okay, which dog should I get?

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<v Speaker 13>If I get a dog? My dog is eight? Like

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<v Speaker 13>should I get a puppy?

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<v Speaker 6>Should I get?

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<v Speaker 13>I'm literally having these conversations with Gemini Live on my walk.

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<v Speaker 13>It's really answering me these questions rather than I'm doing

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<v Speaker 13>a search and then I get distracted with something else,

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<v Speaker 13>I'm like, I'm on my walk and it's given me

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<v Speaker 13>good examples, whether it's a small dog a big dog.

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<v Speaker 13>So again, again I can think of like not so

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<v Speaker 13>much the how do we really help our users? How

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<v Speaker 13>does a phone make your lives better?

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<v Speaker 1>Next, I asked about some of the standout new features

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<v Speaker 1>in the latest Pixel models.

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<v Speaker 13>I have a lot of favorite features, but I would

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<v Speaker 13>say a couple that stand out for me is adme.

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<v Speaker 13>Call notes is another one which is amazing. Again, like

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<v Speaker 13>it's solving the problem of here's the number somebody. Especially

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:35.799
<v Speaker 13>when I'm driving and somebody gives me a number on

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<v Speaker 13>the phone, I'm like, oh my god, I don't have

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 13>a pen and paper. Can I call you back? Or

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:42.840
<v Speaker 13>then I have to like park, take bring out my phone,

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.400
<v Speaker 13>type the number, and the keep notes app. Now I

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.320
<v Speaker 13>don't have to do that. I can just turn on

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<v Speaker 13>call notes. It takes the transcript, it summarizes that and

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<v Speaker 13>just puts the phone number right there, or a confirmation

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<v Speaker 13>number or any of those numbers right. So I think

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<v Speaker 13>that's another one that I really use.

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<v Speaker 1>In title helpful private see is always a concern, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with phone calls. I was curious how the new call

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<v Speaker 1>notes feature protects user data.

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<v Speaker 13>When you enable call notes, it will read out a

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<v Speaker 13>promt that this call is being recorded and is using

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 13>for call you. So if we do that prompt to

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<v Speaker 13>both the parties so that you know that the call

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 13>is being recorded. And that's how it works, and it's

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:21.759
<v Speaker 13>completely on device private using chemin I Nano.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be a very iPhone centric world. So I

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 1>want you to know Zach's reasons why someone should consider

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a switch to the pixels.

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<v Speaker 13>So many reasons, so many reasons. And I will say,

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<v Speaker 13>I know a lot of people is you said ecosystem,

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<v Speaker 13>but it's also inertia right because it's moving to a

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<v Speaker 13>different device and you have all of this data and

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<v Speaker 13>that's a lot of time you're spending also as well

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 13>as like making sure users can easily transfer and move

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:47.959
<v Speaker 13>all their data, a lot of which we did not mention.

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<v Speaker 13>A lot of focus, a big portion of the team

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<v Speaker 13>things through that because you want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 13>you seamlessly Mower to Pixel can use do everything that

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<v Speaker 13>you've done in the past.

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<v Speaker 6>And better right.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up San deep Riot, Senior director of product management

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<v Speaker 1>for Pixel Wearables. He's been on this show before and

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<v Speaker 1>this time I asked him, what's new with the pixel

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<v Speaker 1>Watch three.

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<v Speaker 14>There's no one size fits all here, and these two

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 14>sizes really give you that expression. We see people then

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<v Speaker 14>looking for more in their watch, so when they're out

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<v Speaker 14>and about, they want to add a glancy, more information.

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<v Speaker 14>So we are bringing more information utilizing that larger screen.

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 14>And they're also looking for more battery life from the watch,

0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 14>and again larger size can give that. So that has

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<v Speaker 14>been the number one request in pixel Watch one and two,

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 14>and finally we are bringing the second size with three.

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<v Speaker 14>The feedback we get is that people really love pixel

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 14>Watch for sleep tracking, for their workout tracking, for general

0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 14>during the day activity tracking, and on top of that,

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<v Speaker 14>what they're really seeking is that now it's on the wrist,

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<v Speaker 14>now that I like it, give me more help Like

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<v Speaker 14>Google brings some extensions, bring the helpfulness, and that's what

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<v Speaker 14>our goal has been.

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<v Speaker 1>From what I'm hearing, it seems that Google is all

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<v Speaker 1>about adding helpful features, and there are some notable ones

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<v Speaker 1>on the pixel Watch three. Some will likely make their

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<v Speaker 1>way to previous models.

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<v Speaker 14>So from helpfulness standpoint, we are really bringing even more

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<v Speaker 14>helpful extensions off Google and pixel So there are so

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 14>many examples of that recorder app, so on the go,

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:15.800
<v Speaker 14>if you want to just take a quick memory, you

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<v Speaker 14>can now do that. You can now live stream your

0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 14>Nest doorbell and camera. So for example, somebody's at the door,

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 14>you're cooking dinner. You can now live stream that camera

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<v Speaker 14>right on your wrist and do a two way conversation

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<v Speaker 14>as well. You can say drop the package right from

0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 14>your wrist, you don't have to lay it. And then

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<v Speaker 14>in terms of bringing even more helpful extensions, you can

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<v Speaker 14>now unlock your pixel phone but just your watch. And

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<v Speaker 14>then there are other smaller aspects of that extension, things

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<v Speaker 14>like now you can They are smaller, but they're big

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:49.560
<v Speaker 14>features like coll assists, for example, so you can screen

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<v Speaker 14>calls on wrist, but then also put the call on

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 14>hold and call assists will do it for you to

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<v Speaker 14>buy you that minute. So you can now go grab

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<v Speaker 14>your phone or find a quiet place to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Now our watches can all call for help if you

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<v Speaker 1>take a fall, or notify you.

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<v Speaker 2>About a lower high heart rate.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's a new safety feature Google's adding that detects

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<v Speaker 1>loss of pulse.

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<v Speaker 14>The research scientist at Google really had this ambitious thing

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<v Speaker 14>onlike can we detect loss of pulse, and that loss

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<v Speaker 14>of pulse is that kind of ambitious thing where it

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<v Speaker 14>really can help you in critical moments of your life.

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<v Speaker 14>And how it works is that it's detecting that the

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<v Speaker 14>pulse on your wrist along with purposeful motion using the

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<v Speaker 14>sensor of fusion, which is taking motion data and heart

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<v Speaker 14>rate data, combining that to see if there's any loss

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<v Speaker 14>of pulse, and then contacting both your emergency contact and

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<v Speaker 14>emergency services to get your quick help.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind that feature is only going to be

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<v Speaker 1>available in Europe at least for now. All right, now,

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<v Speaker 1>from our wrists to the living room. Rishi Chandra heads

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<v Speaker 1>up Health and Home at Google. First I asked about

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<v Speaker 1>Google's decision to kill Chrome cast in favor of a

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<v Speaker 1>new set top box.

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<v Speaker 15>So yeah, we launched Chrome casts in twenty thirteen and

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<v Speaker 15>it changed TV in particular. Most TVs didn't have streaming

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<v Speaker 15>apps at that time. It made it super simple to

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<v Speaker 15>plug in something and you get apps as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 15>What we've now found is almost every TV in the

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<v Speaker 15>world has apps already built into it. So what we

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<v Speaker 15>feel like is the next stage of where TV is

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<v Speaker 15>going to go is how do you think about a

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<v Speaker 15>really premium TV experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Combined with the smart home experiences.

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<v Speaker 15>So for example, today, like my monthly bill for streaming

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<v Speaker 15>is actually pretty snificent between Netflix, YouTube, Premium Hulu, Apple TV,

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<v Speaker 15>what have you. But we have these really cheap dongles

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<v Speaker 15>powering my premium TV experience. Well, now we want to

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<v Speaker 15>build a device that's actually optimized for premium TV, so

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<v Speaker 15>you get the best YouTube TV experience, you get the

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<v Speaker 15>best Netflix experience, and we want to bridge smart home

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<v Speaker 15>as part of it, so I should be able to

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<v Speaker 15>see directly from my TV who's at the front door,

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<v Speaker 15>turn off the lights, automatically change my heating settings. So

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<v Speaker 15>we're combining those two things in this new box torm factor,

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<v Speaker 15>which is called Google TV Streamer. A box will always

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<v Speaker 15>be leading edge inter technology. So your TV, you want

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<v Speaker 15>to buy that for five to ten years, so it'll

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<v Speaker 15>give you access to apps. But if you want the latest,

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<v Speaker 15>for example, smart home technology like matter and Thread, you're

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<v Speaker 15>going to need a device, a separate device today until

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<v Speaker 15>that gets embedded in TV. So we always see the

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<v Speaker 15>box is going to be a little bit head of

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<v Speaker 15>the curve of the latest technology, the fastest processor, the

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<v Speaker 15>most capable AI, so that's the role of the box

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<v Speaker 15>is that you can upgrade a little bit faster than

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<v Speaker 15>your television. Where you know, you buy a four K TV,

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<v Speaker 15>I want it to last, you know, five to ten

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<v Speaker 15>years potentially, whereas a box you might want upgrade every

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<v Speaker 15>two three years.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how we think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Chandra has been at Google for quite some time. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know his thoughts on how AI is shaping

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<v Speaker 1>the future of home and health products.

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<v Speaker 15>I would say it's an incredibly exciting time because AI

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<v Speaker 15>has this huge potential to change how we think about

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<v Speaker 15>technology products. I helped launch the original Croncast, I help

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<v Speaker 15>launch the original Google Home products.

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<v Speaker 4>With the Google Assistant.

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<v Speaker 15>And the fact that we can actually now apply this

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<v Speaker 15>new technology like LMS and really think see a step

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<v Speaker 15>function change in capability. It's super excit in my mind

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<v Speaker 15>of where we can take health, or we can take home,

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<v Speaker 15>or you can take personal assistance. All of that is

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<v Speaker 15>going to change over the next two years. So I

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<v Speaker 15>think it's really exciting time to be in technology in general.

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<v Speaker 1>There you have it all the updates from Google's latest event,

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<v Speaker 1>and although Google has been working on AI for quite

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<v Speaker 1>some time, it seems we're finally at a turning point

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<v Speaker 1>where it can actually benefit products and make our lives easier.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, nothing comes without downsides, AI included. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>more of your calls coming up at eighty to eight

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<v Speaker 1>to two or one zero one.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Rich Damuro and you are listening to

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<v Speaker 2>rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>to my inbox. Let's see here. Let's go to Jack

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<v Speaker 1>in north Ridge. Jack, you're on.

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<v Speaker 2>With rich.

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<v Speaker 10>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Hello, Yeah, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 10>Hi, thank you for call.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's go with the customer. My question is I have

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<v Speaker 8>an ex girlfriend who is tracking me. She knows where

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<v Speaker 8>I'm going. I think she can read my text messages.

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<v Speaker 8>So I don't know if I need to get a

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<v Speaker 8>track software on my phone or if there's something I

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<v Speaker 8>can buy to see if there's something on the bottom

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<v Speaker 8>of my car. But it's getting kind of scary, so

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<v Speaker 8>I need your help.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how do you think she's tracking you?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, she knows. She's mentioned in the conversations where I

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<v Speaker 8>was at like physically with out like oh you were here,

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<v Speaker 8>you were there, And I don't think she's following me.

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<v Speaker 8>So I don't know what's going on. And some I

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<v Speaker 8>think she had access to my text messages somehow because

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<v Speaker 8>she knows what I was saying and a message to somebody,

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<v Speaker 8>and she doesn't have access to my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you on iPhone?

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<v Speaker 4>I am?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? And is she on iPhone?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>She is no longer like part of my she used

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<v Speaker 8>to be part of like my Apple.

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<v Speaker 2>ID right right, that's her.

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<v Speaker 8>Own because that was a whole mess doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so she has a different company now, she's with

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<v Speaker 8>T Mobile with AT and T and yeah. So I

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<v Speaker 8>have an Apple phone and she has an Apple phone,

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<v Speaker 8>but she's not on my network anymore. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, but I guess the question is is she

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<v Speaker 1>still somehow on your Apple I d like, maybe you disconnected,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's still kind of either in your family or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the Find My app, because I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's either an air tag that's tracking you,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, if there's an air tag on your

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<v Speaker 1>on your person or something like that, it would it

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<v Speaker 1>would show up on your iPhone, you know, would say like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an there's an unknown tracker nearby. So my feeling

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's either Okay, so the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>would think that could be happening here, there's either somehow

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere along the line, you exchanged, uh sharing with that person.

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<v Speaker 1>So for instance, my kids can see where I am

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<v Speaker 1>on their iPhone because we've exchanged at one point, we

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<v Speaker 1>set up some sort of you know, hey, we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the family, and I can see where they are, they

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<v Speaker 1>can see where I am. So I think maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>would go through and check that on your Apple account,

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<v Speaker 1>see if you're sharing your your location with anyone. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I would look at, because otherwise.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I don't think I am I think I

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<v Speaker 8>did that, but I'll tell you, I'll double check.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I would double check because that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>one unless she has a physical tracker on you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really the only way.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's other third party apps like if there's something

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, maybe you know, like a Life three

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<v Speaker 1>sixty or something like that, maybe you forgot about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but again that would have to be on your phone

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<v Speaker 1>and active. So maybe what I would do if you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the iPhone, you know there's a there's a locations,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's got to be some link to

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<v Speaker 1>your iCloud account in some way, So I would go

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<v Speaker 1>through all of those, like where it says family, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in your privacy and security, I would go through

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<v Speaker 1>like your location services, and I would go through all

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<v Speaker 1>of those and make sure that there's no app in

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<v Speaker 1>there that might get access to your location that she

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<v Speaker 1>may also have access to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well just just go through.

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<v Speaker 1>And like make sure like for me, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got you I don't know, sixty sixty apps or have

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<v Speaker 1>access to my location. Yeah, I mean, maybe she's just

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<v Speaker 1>tap it into one of those. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different ways that you can do this, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's if it's somehow on your account, that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that you can kind of stop on

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<v Speaker 1>your end and then hopefully she can't. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do also is you know, maybe is

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<v Speaker 1>she texting you this information.

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<v Speaker 2>How she's saying I know where you.

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<v Speaker 8>Are to a conversation. We were talking and she goes,

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<v Speaker 8>oh you were here and this and now I was like,

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<v Speaker 8>oh my gosh, okay, and I said, oh, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 8>was it was so.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she could have also been she could have

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<v Speaker 1>been calling your bluff. I would you know, she might

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<v Speaker 1>She might just be saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think so, but maybe maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it just you know, it depends.

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<v Speaker 1>Like There's my point is I would look for ways

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<v Speaker 1>to actually to actually know if she knows where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing you can do is just turn location

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<v Speaker 1>services off on your phone altogether for a week and

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<v Speaker 1>see if she can still work her magic and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out where you are.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Tricky, but if anyone's using sort of an air tag

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<v Speaker 1>or on the Google side, one of the find my

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<v Speaker 1>devices gadgets, they all will report, whether it's iPhone or Android,

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<v Speaker 1>it will report back to you and tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>you have an unknown tracker following you. So you got

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<v Speaker 1>to look for the ways that she may have access

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<v Speaker 1>that could be, you know, as much as just going

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<v Speaker 1>through your settings. Let's go to Melody and Carl's Bad Melody.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on with Rich?

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<v Speaker 16>Hi, Rich, listen. I several years ago was building a

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<v Speaker 16>house and in the process looking for building materials, and

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<v Speaker 16>I'd be out and.

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<v Speaker 1>Take pictures of the door or.

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<v Speaker 16>That window and whatever, and anyways, I deleted all of

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<v Speaker 16>those from my phone once my house was built and

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<v Speaker 16>I moved into it. But now those photos still continue

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<v Speaker 16>to show up on my screensaver.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, unware screensaver on what on my lap? So your

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<v Speaker 1>mac book my desktop? Okay, so you have like a

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<v Speaker 1>Mac computer.

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<v Speaker 16>I have a Mac and it's on my neck. Okay,

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<v Speaker 16>so I check the library. They're not in the library

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<v Speaker 16>because I deleted them. They're deleted from my other devices,

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<v Speaker 16>so they're not on my other device with my iPad

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<v Speaker 16>in my obviously my phone, but they still show up

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<v Speaker 16>on my screen saver, and I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 16>get rid of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to my iCloud, yeah, and they're not there.

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<v Speaker 10>Got deleted photos or to.

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<v Speaker 16>Delete them there, but I can only delete photos that

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<v Speaker 16>have been deleted in the last thirty days.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, well I get rid of them. A couple things.

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<v Speaker 1>So first off, have you you've gone into your you've

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<v Speaker 1>gone into your settings screen saver, Photos and then options,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've gone in there into that folder where it

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<v Speaker 1>says choose folder. No okay, okay, So that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>need to go. That's the first place to go. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put these instructions on the website rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot TV. I'll put them in the show notes. But

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<v Speaker 1>basically you need to go into the screen saver on

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<v Speaker 1>your settings. So system Preferences, screen saver, scroll down to

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<v Speaker 1>where it says photos. Click there and it says source

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<v Speaker 1>and mine currently says colors. But if it says choose

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<v Speaker 1>choose folder or photo library, you have to go in

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<v Speaker 1>there and find the folder where it's picking those pictures

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<v Speaker 1>out of and delete the pictures out of that folder

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<v Speaker 1>and then empty the trash and once you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be a better place. So that's where they live,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where it's pulling them from. So sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>you add a picture to a screen saver, or sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it gets added, it's just in that folder forever and

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of copied there. So once you decide, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want these anymore, go in there, check to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure they're not there, and that should do it.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's not working. There is a way to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of clear the cash on the screen saver that's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more complicated, So I think you go with

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<v Speaker 1>the first solution first. I'll put the other solution on

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<v Speaker 1>the show notes. But if that doesn't work, you can

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<v Speaker 1>clear the cash for the screen saver, which sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes your computer saying, oh, we know that that Melody

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<v Speaker 1>wants these pictures here, so we're gonna make sure we

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<v Speaker 1>protect them. Even if she deletes them in other places,

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<v Speaker 1>We're still gonna save a copy of those so you

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<v Speaker 1>can delete that copy as well. But I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you go into that folder, you may find that it's

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<v Speaker 1>directed to that folder and those pictures are in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wants to see construction photos on their screensaver? Nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when the construction's done. Great question, Melody. I know

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<v Speaker 1>when I see the random pictures that I take on

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<v Speaker 1>my daily basis for my work.

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<v Speaker 2>I take so many pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>And they show up on my Google Home and I'm like, Google,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you showing me these random pictures? They are

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<v Speaker 1>not fun at all. You are listening to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you talking technology at eight eight eight Rich

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<v Speaker 1>one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. Try to get to a

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<v Speaker 1>couple more calls here. This is the final hour of

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<v Speaker 1>the show this week. Coming up later on in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a great guest, Max Tegmark, MIT, professor AI researcher.

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<v Speaker 1>He is going to talk about the pros and cons

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<v Speaker 1>of AI. What should we be concerned about because things

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<v Speaker 1>are moving very fast in this AI world, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an interesting conversation coming up a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later. The website for the show rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot TV. If you want links to anything I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>you can also email me there. Just hit contact up

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<v Speaker 1>at the top. Jim writes in from Prescott Valley, Arizona. Hey, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a Fitbit Charge four. I'm a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>the Fitbit products and wondered if any of them could

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<v Speaker 1>push heart rate alerts to my iPhone like the Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Watch did in the story you shared a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for all what you do and your help, Jim So, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're correct that the Charge four does not

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<v Speaker 1>do the low high heart rate notifications. As far as

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell, looking at a help page on the

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<v Speaker 1>Fitbit help center, it says the Charge five, Inspire three,

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<v Speaker 1>Sense two Versa three versa four, and Google pixel Watch

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<v Speaker 1>will notify you when we detect your heart rate outside

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<v Speaker 1>of your high or low thresholds when you appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be inactive for at least ten minutes. I would also

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<v Speaker 1>assume the Charge six, which maybe this wasn't updated for

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<v Speaker 1>that one, that should also do it as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like the newer devices do it, just not

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<v Speaker 1>the one that you have. So all the pixel watches

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and it seems like a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>fitbit watches do that. Plus the Inspire the charge but

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<v Speaker 1>not the Charge force. You got to get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit higher. I'd go with the Charge six. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>last one that I reviewed, and it's got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of good features, very simple if you wanted just a

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<v Speaker 1>simple tracker, The Fitpit Charge six is really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So check out that.

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<v Speaker 1>One great question let's see here from Rick in Peoria, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the show.

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<v Speaker 1>My grand order has an eight month old iPhone fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It lost its ability to send and receive cell data.

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<v Speaker 1>Works fine if connected to Wi Fi, but no cell

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<v Speaker 1>data phone calls and text work. AT and T is

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<v Speaker 1>blaming Apple. Apple acknowledges the problem, but blames AT and T.

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<v Speaker 1>The phone still under warranty. Apple won't replace it until

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<v Speaker 1>they remove the software and reload it, but she'll lose

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<v Speaker 1>all of her apps. I read on I read somewhere, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I read somewhere there's an ongoing issue with Apple and

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<v Speaker 1>AT and T. Any thoughts, Rick, love you, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is the problem with searching for stuff like this online,

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<v Speaker 1>because what's going to come up the forum where all

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<v Speaker 1>the other people that I've ever in the world had

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with AT and T in the iPhone, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trade notes and No, there is no ongoing issue with

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<v Speaker 1>Apple and AT and T. Apple and AT and T

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<v Speaker 1>are working just fine. It sounds like you have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with I message because you're telling me that phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls and texts work, and it works fine if it's

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<v Speaker 1>connected to Wi Fi but no cell data. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I would do is I would do what's called a

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<v Speaker 1>network settings reset. So go on your iPhone, go into

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<v Speaker 1>settings and then go into let's see here settings General.

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<v Speaker 2>Tap there.

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<v Speaker 1>Down to the bottom it says transfer or reset iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>Tap reset, tap reset one more time. And it says

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<v Speaker 1>reset network settings, and once you do that, that will

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<v Speaker 1>reset all of your network settings and you will have

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<v Speaker 1>to reconnect your iPhone to Wi Fi and Bluetooth, but

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<v Speaker 1>it should retrigger the I message. You may have I

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<v Speaker 1>message turned off over cellular. I don't know if that's possible,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe that's what happened. The other thing you can

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<v Speaker 1>do is turn off I message and turn it back on.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it just needs to reconnect the phone line. If

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<v Speaker 1>she got a new phone, this is a relatively new

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<v Speaker 1>phone that could be the case eight month old iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>But if that doesn't work work, what I would do

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<v Speaker 1>is what they recommended, which is you have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>restart the entire phone. Just just go back to that

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<v Speaker 1>transfer or reset, erase all content and settings, and that

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<v Speaker 1>will wipe the phone clean. Now, as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>have an iCloud backup, you're gonna be just fine because

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<v Speaker 1>all of our apps are going to come back from

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<v Speaker 1>the iCloud backup. But if you're having this problem and

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<v Speaker 1>you do the iCloud backup and restore, you may have

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<v Speaker 1>the same problem when you restore the phone, which could

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty frustrating. So it sounds like it's an eye

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<v Speaker 1>message thing, because you're telling me it works fine connected

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<v Speaker 1>to Wi Fi but not on cell data. So it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like some sort of messaging. Are these text messages

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<v Speaker 1>that won't go through? Or is it? Is it just

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<v Speaker 1>I messages that won't go through. If it's text, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that network setting reset is going to work. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's I message, that's another thing. But you're telling me

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<v Speaker 1>it works connected to Wi Fi, So do the network

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<v Speaker 1>settings reset. I think that's going to fix most of

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<v Speaker 1>the issues you have. Carrie writes in how do you

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<v Speaker 1>remove tickets from Ticketmaster from my wallet? There is no

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<v Speaker 1>more button to select them to delete them. Great question, Carrie,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is something that often comes up. Things go

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<v Speaker 1>into the Apple Wallet and they never come out. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think the problem is what you're doing is you're

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<v Speaker 1>activating the Apple Wallet by double pressing the side button

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone, which yes, you're right, it does bring

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<v Speaker 1>up all of your cards and when you tap a

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<v Speaker 1>card you can show it, but there's no way to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of it. What you have to do is

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<v Speaker 1>actually go into the Apple Wallet app. So open up

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<v Speaker 1>your iPhone, type in wallet find, you know, search for

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<v Speaker 1>the wallet app, and now look at all of your

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<v Speaker 1>your cards there. So, for instance, I have my WWDC

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four pass and in the upper right hand

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<v Speaker 1>corner there is a three dots in a circle. You

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<v Speaker 1>tap that and then it says remove pass and when

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<v Speaker 1>you tap that, you should be able to delete that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there you go. Once you have that, you

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to delete those things. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>uh Elsa in Plia del Rey, California.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Rich, how are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing fantastic, Elsa.

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<v Speaker 4>I need your help.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have Direct TV satellite that I've had forever

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't want to get rid of it. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been kind of thinking about streaming and figuring it all out.

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<v Speaker 10>But here's the latest issue for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to keep the box in my living room.

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<v Speaker 3>I got rid of my son's box so he can

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<v Speaker 3>do the Direct TV app in his room, but in

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<v Speaker 3>my TV, I have a Samsung TV and I can't

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<v Speaker 3>do the app there unless I get a row crew.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there something coming to change or I found that.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>They said, yeah, Samsung doesn't let you.

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<v Speaker 16>I guess it's proprietary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it depends there are. So you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>DirecTV stream. This is their streaming service. Is that we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about or are you talking about Direct TV's own

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<v Speaker 1>streaming app, which, like, are you talking about You're just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stream your own DirecTV account or is this

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<v Speaker 1>through direct TV Stream?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm trying to stream my own Direct TV account?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, which you have one?

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<v Speaker 1>So you have a satellite, You have a satellite, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of included in your in your satellite,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just stream direct TV correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's the problem because the direct TV

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<v Speaker 1>stream is a standalone app which is supported on some

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung TVs, but Samsung TV has their own kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like app world, and it's not one of the major players.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean it is, but it's not. The major

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<v Speaker 1>players are fire TV, stick, Apple TV, and Roku. As

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<v Speaker 1>you found out, they said, oh, just get a Roku.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is you don't. You don't want a Roku

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<v Speaker 1>because you already have the Samsung TV Smart tv right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So the problem is you're beholden to what Samsung allows

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<v Speaker 1>on their platform, and Direct TV has decided that there's

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<v Speaker 1>just not enough of a user base on those TVs

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<v Speaker 1>to support another app because their developers have to go

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<v Speaker 1>through and write that app, and they're just seeing that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we don't have the install base that

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<v Speaker 1>we need to make this app. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>make it for Roku, We're going to make it for

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<v Speaker 1>Apple TV, We're going to make it for fire Stick.

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<v Speaker 2>But Samsung TV is going to be sort of left

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<v Speaker 2>out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking on the website to see have you

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the direct tv website to see which Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>TV models are supported, because some are.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I try to get onto my DirecTV account

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<v Speaker 3>on my TV the streaming and it just said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I just wouldn't go through. I'm getting that TV would

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<v Speaker 3>not support that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks like it looks like it's not on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of TVs, especially older TVs.

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<v Speaker 2>How old is this TV?

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<v Speaker 4>About five? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm looking at all the TVs on here and

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<v Speaker 1>they're all relatively new.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the best bet for.

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<v Speaker 1>You if you want to add that that service there,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to have to get a streaming stick,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cheapest one is really, you know, like the

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<v Speaker 1>fire TV. I think that one's pretty cheap. Amazon typically

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<v Speaker 1>has them on sale. I know it's not ideal, but

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<v Speaker 1>what you can do El says, you can breathe new

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<v Speaker 1>life into this TV. Are you using other streaming apps

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<v Speaker 1>on this TV or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the good news is if you get this little

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fire TV stick, you will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>download all of the other apps that you already have.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just going to have to go through that input

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<v Speaker 1>instead of using the native kind of like TV interface

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<v Speaker 1>that you're used to. That's the downside, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but the the good news is the the out outlay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the expense for this is probably about thirty dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not too much of an expense. It's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a mindset that you've got this TV, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>this smart TV interface, you can't get the app that

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<v Speaker 1>you want on that interface. And so that's that is

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And one more day before I let you go, because

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<v Speaker 3>as it turns out, direct TV came out with a

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<v Speaker 3>genie that then I can get my apps or I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. Yeah, so the Technlicson came out and said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's what you just said. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be alike because now you have your system going through

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<v Speaker 3>something else. He's like, if you have all your apps

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<v Speaker 3>on your TV like you do now, you don't really

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<v Speaker 3>need it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, agreed. I would agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say, do you what about just ditching

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<v Speaker 1>the satellite altogether and just signing up for direct TV stream.

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<v Speaker 8>I considered that.

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<v Speaker 3>That was my whole that was the purpose, so I

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<v Speaker 3>could try it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the problem is it's not any cheaper. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>is it's not any cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you do, like Direct TV stream is basically the

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<v Speaker 1>same price, and you may have like a promotion going

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<v Speaker 1>with direct TV.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would just personally, what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would do is, uh is, just get the dongle, get

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<v Speaker 1>the fire TV stick, all of the apps that you're

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<v Speaker 1>already using on Samsung TV, download them to the fire

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<v Speaker 1>TV stick or the Roku if you want to go Roku,

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<v Speaker 1>go with that. They make a small stick as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, just use that as your interface

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<v Speaker 1>on this TV and that way you can still use

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<v Speaker 1>your Direct TV. The only thing I would do is

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<v Speaker 1>just check with direct TV to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 1>app that you need to download is available on these

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<v Speaker 1>streaming sticks, because it is. It sounds like it's slightly

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<v Speaker 1>different than the DirecTV stream app, which is more widely

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<v Speaker 1>used than the Direct TV app that I think you

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<v Speaker 1>need to use to sign in with your account.

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<v Speaker 2>More of your calls coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven four to two four one zero one. California is

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<v Speaker 1>going to introduce digital driver's licenses in Apple Wallet. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about that, plus the VPN that is free

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

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<v Speaker 1>Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to talk to Max Tegmark, MIT professor

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<v Speaker 1>and AI researcher about the AI world we live in

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<v Speaker 1>and what could potentially be good and bad about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Robert in California. Robert, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 10>Very Rich.

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<v Speaker 17>I have a question, another direct TV question as Yeah,

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<v Speaker 17>what are the chances I just installed five TVs at

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<v Speaker 17>a bar in Venice and their direct TV and there

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<v Speaker 17>used to be a feature on their boxes where you.

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<v Speaker 10>Could have them automatically tuned to a Dodger game, so

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<v Speaker 10>gets the business account, so the bartender didn't have to

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<v Speaker 10>pick up a remote and change it you could program

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<v Speaker 10>another TV that it would change over to, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>the the Rams game, and they got rid of that feature.

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<v Speaker 10>So my thinking was, well, that's cool. If the boxes

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<v Speaker 10>can talk to Google or to Alexa, I'll just do

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<v Speaker 10>a routine and you know, one of the bartenders or

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<v Speaker 10>something a little set it up for the.

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<v Speaker 8>Week or something.

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<v Speaker 10>But they don't talk to Google or Alexa. And I

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<v Speaker 10>don't want to use a Harmony hub.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought about that, but.

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<v Speaker 10>Is there something similar to a Harmony hub where I

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<v Speaker 10>could have it change channels for me on a schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've had this question on the show before.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to remember. So the auto tune, Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that anymore. And these boxes the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, the thing that I think might work. And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you've already thought about this, but what about just

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<v Speaker 1>DVR ing the games and so the DVR switches to

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<v Speaker 1>that channel at that time.

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<v Speaker 10>Shoot, that'll work that it'll just switch once you do

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<v Speaker 10>the DVR.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the the problem is I think there's probably like

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<v Speaker 1>depends on how many tuners there are on these boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just say you have the box and there's

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<v Speaker 1>two tuners, you know, because a lot of these DVRs

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<v Speaker 1>have like two tuners built in. So what I would

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<v Speaker 1>do is try to see if you can record the

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<v Speaker 1>game on both tuners, you know, like maybe record like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only downside to that plan.

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<v Speaker 10>And maybe the Genie they're the Genie boxes, so uh,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not sure that they I didn't even look into

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<v Speaker 10>whether they're recording, but that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's that's the only thing I can each

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<v Speaker 1>has its own box. Yeah, I mean, that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing I can think of is just try it program

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<v Speaker 1>the games in, you know, just just I mean anything,

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<v Speaker 1>just record anything and see if it switches. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just remembering from the days of TVO. What it would

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<v Speaker 1>do is it would if you had, let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>had a thing recording, it would record that on the

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<v Speaker 1>tuner you weren't using in the background, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>foreground would continue to stay on the show you're on.

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<v Speaker 1>But the way to get around that would be to

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<v Speaker 1>record maybe both. I don't know if it'll let you

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<v Speaker 1>record on two different tuners, but that's the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I can think of other than other than some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like ir blaster like you said, like a matrix switch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that that could work.

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<v Speaker 2>But what would that How would that work exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 10>A major switch. Then that's that's that's on the internet

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<v Speaker 10>that I can talk to and have a schedule. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>it's like a smart matrix switch. But I've never seen

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<v Speaker 10>anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it seems that seems like you're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>little complicated too, you know, like you want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>this simple because you want it to work and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to run your business. But I think the DVR,

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<v Speaker 1>Try that and see if that works. If not, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some sort of IR blaster or like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to It's just depends on what the genie can.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, Harmony, the Harmony hubs are just they still work, no, right,

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<v Speaker 10>they're just not supporting them anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's just so complicated, you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be programming and sitting there and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out you know, all these times. Try the DVR thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that might work. But report back, go to

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<v Speaker 1>the website. Let me know, you know, Rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot TV. Hit contact sounds like a fun place. Sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you got a fun place going there. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the call, Robert, appreciate it. California. Speaking of California, if

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<v Speaker 1>you live in California, soon you're gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>add your driver's license and state ID to Apple Wallet.

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<v Speaker 2>This is coming soon.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a date just yet, but Apple has

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<v Speaker 1>announced it and this is going to happen. So I

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<v Speaker 1>got a demo of this yesterday. You basically scan your

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<v Speaker 1>ID with your iPhone, they verify it through the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Then all of a sudden, you get a digital version

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<v Speaker 1>of your driver's license. And what's neat about this is

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<v Speaker 1>that any business can just use an iPhone to check

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<v Speaker 1>to see the validity of your ID. And the best

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<v Speaker 1>part is it is private. So when you show your

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<v Speaker 1>ID to a bouncer, if they have a photographic memory,

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<v Speaker 1>they could remember everything on your ID, right, everything from

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<v Speaker 1>your age to your weight, height, whatever your address. With this,

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<v Speaker 1>it only presents the information that they need to verify.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, if you're presenting for like, let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>want to verify that you're twenty one, you tap your

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<v Speaker 1>phone to their phone and it will just verify without

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<v Speaker 1>even exchanging your day to birth. It just says, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this person's over twenty one. It's all encrypted. Arizona, Maryland, Colorado, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ohio already doing it. Coming soon, Connecticut, Hawaii, Iowa, Kentucky, Mississippi, Utah, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico. Yes, this is happening digital IDs. You still

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<v Speaker 1>need to carry your physical though. Don't forget. This is

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<v Speaker 1>rich On Tech. Welcome, come back to rich On Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Very excited for my next guest, Max tech Mark. You

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<v Speaker 1>know we're all about AI. Max tech Mark is an

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<v Speaker 1>MIT professor and AI researcher. He's also a best selling

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<v Speaker 1>author and founder of the Future of Life Institute. Max

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<v Speaker 1>is going to talk to us about AI, its potential,

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<v Speaker 1>and what could possibly go wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Max, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much. It's a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well thanks for joining me, appreciate it. I'm curious because, well,

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<v Speaker 1>first off, just briefly explain the Future of Life Institute.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing there?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, so my day job is just being a

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<v Speaker 4>professor at MIT doing AI research many years so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>basically a huge nerd. But ten years ago I also

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<v Speaker 4>started this nonprofit organization to make sure that this ever

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<v Speaker 4>more powerful tech rebuilding actually just used for for good things,

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<v Speaker 4>not for bad things.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were initially very optimistic about AI's potential. What

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<v Speaker 1>made you hopeful? And then I think the landscape has changed,

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<v Speaker 1>So what kind of changed your tune to saying hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to be aware of this and kind of cautious.

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<v Speaker 4>Great question, So let's look at the big picture a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit here. You know, the big idea that's given

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<v Speaker 4>us all of computer tech and all of AI so

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<v Speaker 4>far as this idea that the brain is really a

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<v Speaker 4>biological computer and that therefore, you know, we humans should

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<v Speaker 4>be able to build machines that do everything the brain does.

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<v Speaker 4>For a long as time, we struggled with figuring it out.

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<v Speaker 4>And actually, back in nineteen fifty one, Alan Turing is

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the godfather of the whole field to day,

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<v Speaker 4>I said that, you know, befar off, but if it

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<v Speaker 4>ever happened, it's going to be cool. But we might

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<v Speaker 4>also we're probably going to just lose control over it.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to build a new robot species basically, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to take over Earth. But don't worry. And

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<v Speaker 4>then he said, I'm going to give you a canary

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<v Speaker 4>in the coal mine a test, so you know when

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<v Speaker 4>it's close. He said, it's called the Turing test when

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<v Speaker 4>machines get good enough at mastering language and knowledge that

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<v Speaker 4>taken fool a lot of people into thinking they're humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're there.

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<v Speaker 4>This is where we are all of a sudden right

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<v Speaker 4>now with GPTs four oh and so on. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of fascinating debate about this. People. Some

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<v Speaker 4>people are very excited, some people are concerned. I'm actually both.

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<v Speaker 4>The people who are excited, they are like, they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is great, because if we can make we can

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<v Speaker 4>amplify our intelligence, then we secure cancer, all the other diseases,

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<v Speaker 4>fegure out how to lift people out of poverty, solve climate,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, go to space. On the other hand, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people wants to remember tourings warning. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're the ouphae species here on Earth, not because we're

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<v Speaker 4>are more muscular than tigers, but because we're smarter. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's pretty obvious if we build a robot species

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<v Speaker 4>with ten billion robots that are way smarter than nuts

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<v Speaker 4>in every possible way, better at manipulating us, better at

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<v Speaker 4>building robot factories, better at inventing tech. They don't care

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<v Speaker 4>about us.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, do you think do you think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a scenario where we build the robot and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>it turns on us.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, of course, of course there is, That's what Touring

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<v Speaker 4>was talking about. But there's also a scenario where it

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<v Speaker 4>goes really well, So I'll take that one. Well, the

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<v Speaker 4>thing is we shouldn't stay here and eat popcorn and

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<v Speaker 4>just go to watch the future unfold, right, which is

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<v Speaker 4>we're building it now. So which way it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>go wholly depends on what we do. If we raise children,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, we put a do you have kids?

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<v Speaker 2>I do, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>You probably put a lot of effort into not just

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<v Speaker 4>teach seeing them what a nice is and teaching them

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<v Speaker 4>how to make fights, but also teaching them morality and

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<v Speaker 4>teaching them what's the good ways to use the knife

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<v Speaker 4>and the mass and not the bad ways. Right, And

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<v Speaker 4>we need to do the same with our machines. And

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<v Speaker 4>if we just have if you just take a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of kids and put them in the kindergarten and give

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<v Speaker 4>them a bunch of chain saws and hand grenades and

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<v Speaker 4>tech that they're they don't quite have the wisdom to handle,

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<v Speaker 4>of course it's going to go badly, right If you

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<v Speaker 4>educate them, well, great, things can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. So, I mean, we live in America,

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<v Speaker 1>capitalist society. We've got companies like Google, We've got open AI,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Anthropic, We've got so many companies. AI is

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<v Speaker 1>the hottest thing right now. If one company doesn't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't another going to do it? Because it's all in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the you know, they're trying to be the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest and the best depends.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, look at the pharma. Would you say that, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>if one person doesn't thee one medical company isn't allowed

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<v Speaker 4>to build some self sentiment to everybody, someone else is

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<v Speaker 4>going to do that. Of course not. That's where we

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<v Speaker 4>have the FDA, right so there's a safety standard and

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<v Speaker 4>there's a race to the top where companies whatever company

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<v Speaker 4>can first produce safe drugs so they can persuade some

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<v Speaker 4>FDA experts this the benefits of this O way, the harms,

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<v Speaker 4>they make the money. So there's a lot of discussion

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<v Speaker 4>right now in California right about this new law s

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<v Speaker 4>the where will they try to put in place some

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<v Speaker 4>stuff going in that direction to make AI be a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit like more like biotech or airplanes or cars.

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<v Speaker 4>Where where the ultimately you have standards that the companies

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<v Speaker 4>have to meet so that they compete to make space stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think that would be that would work. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's in America. Do you think that would work worldwide?

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<v Speaker 5>Totally?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean not because other countries like America. But you

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<v Speaker 4>know why is it that China has an FDA, Well

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<v Speaker 4>because a bunch of GIA these companies poisoned the ruse

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<v Speaker 4>of Chinese people in the past with bad drugs, so

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<v Speaker 4>they decided to protect the Chinese. They were going to

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<v Speaker 4>have some laws same in Europe. So actually it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Europe has a new law now that u AI trying

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<v Speaker 4>to have some shot safety standards for aire. China already

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<v Speaker 4>enacted some so a lot of people in California. Senator

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<v Speaker 4>Weener I really applaud this effort is trying to get

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<v Speaker 4>something similar in California, but California law is much weaker

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<v Speaker 4>so far, but I think it's a it's a good

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<v Speaker 4>first step at least since there's absolutely nothing happening in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the most concerning part about all this is it

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we don't have these rules in place

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<v Speaker 1>before these companies continue to progress, or.

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<v Speaker 4>What yeah, I think so. It's a there's so much opportunity,

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<v Speaker 4>as we just talked about, right to do amazing things

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<v Speaker 4>with this technology if we do it right, and it

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<v Speaker 4>would be an incredible pity if we squander by having

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<v Speaker 4>creating also the disasters you know last year, it's CEOs

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<v Speaker 4>of all the top companies that you just listened there

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<v Speaker 4>a thropic, Google, Beat, Mime and Open AI, together with

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<v Speaker 4>some of the most famous A researchers in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>find this open statement saying it is to cause human

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<v Speaker 4>extinction if we don't act carefully. So that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big statement, human extinction from something that we're

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<v Speaker 1>creating on a computer.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know again we're not. Yeah, if you think

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<v Speaker 4>people who dismiss this as just ridiculous, they tend to

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<v Speaker 4>think of AI as just a new technology like the

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<v Speaker 4>Internet or the Steam engine, whereas the AI researchers and

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<v Speaker 4>the CEO to sign this, they think of it as

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<v Speaker 4>a new species because you know, if you have something

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<v Speaker 4>which is much smarter than us and can live in

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<v Speaker 4>a robot body and can do absolutely everything we can,

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<v Speaker 4>and build copies of itself and it's own robot factories,

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<v Speaker 4>not even species, right, and I think we should really

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<v Speaker 4>think twice if we do this, to make sure it's

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<v Speaker 4>a species that we liked us and it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>help us flourish, rather than some species that just doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>care about us and just use us as an irritating test.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is so wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I really it's it's like it's exciting because

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<v Speaker 1>most of the consumers are just using things like chatchybt uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and Claude and you know, Gemini and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's just text based. But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>next level is what you're talking about, because someone is

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<v Speaker 1>going to build this into a robot form, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're already seeing a little bit of that.

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<v Speaker 4>So of course, I mean it's up driving cars a robot.

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<v Speaker 4>This doesn't look like Arnold Schwarzenegger in an Hollywood movie,

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<v Speaker 4>and it has a different shape and there's a huge effort.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it has less Optimus and then a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>other companies, and you know what's the craziest thing is

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<v Speaker 4>it's that it's happening much faster than that we stought,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, five years ago, almost all my professor nerd

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<v Speaker 4>colleagues thought it's something as good as Chatsypt. Four oh

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<v Speaker 4>was thirty forty years away, and boom it happened. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it turned out there was an easier way to do

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<v Speaker 4>it than we start. And a lot of people now

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<v Speaker 4>who used to think that this this that's getting totally outsmart,

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<v Speaker 4>My machine might be one hundred years away, or now

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<v Speaker 4>saying maybe it's it's a lot closer, five years away,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it's two years away. Are you even here people

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<v Speaker 4>one year away? Some people say no, no, it won't

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<v Speaker 4>happen for a long time, won't happen until end of

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<v Speaker 4>the decade, like twenty thirty. So that we're not talking

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<v Speaker 4>anymore about something happening on this timescaled climate change. We're

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<v Speaker 4>to talk a lot. There's a real seriousness thinking now

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<v Speaker 4>that you might just few years away from it, and

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<v Speaker 4>that means we kind of have to get back together.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have some insights from State of California and

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<v Speaker 4>from the governments and so on. Basically, if we can

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<v Speaker 4>have an FBA for AI to make sure that it's

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<v Speaker 4>gifts as we get on the benefits and then other downside,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to start. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna leave it there, Max, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Max teg Mark from the Future of Life Institute Futureoflife

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<v Speaker 1>dot Org. Thanks so much for joining me today. That

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<v Speaker 1>is such a wild, wild topic and oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm telling you I'm having this conversation where I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just got on my phone the Gemini Live,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Google's kind of humanistic version of AI, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is very convincing. So I see a future where

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<v Speaker 1>build this into a robot and game over all. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>You said it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Google has thrown billions at companies over the years to

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<v Speaker 2>Alta Vista didn't have those billions. I do agree.

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think Google had better search results. At

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<v Speaker 1>a certain point people realized they did have better search results,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that's what powered Google in the

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<v Speaker 1>early days, and I think what solidified their power was

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<v Speaker 1>some of those deals you talked about. Thanks for the email.

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<v Speaker 1>Harry writes in from North Carolina. I just heard a

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<v Speaker 1>segment about a solar powered electric car. I was wondering

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<v Speaker 1>when someone would put a solar collector on the roof

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<v Speaker 1>of a Tesla. You were the caller recommended mention the

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<v Speaker 1>automatic driving mode of the Tesla. I'm sorry, but in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, there's no place for automatic driving mode. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been driving since nineteen fifty six, including semi trailers. My

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<v Speaker 1>driving career ended due to an accident, but my driving

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<v Speaker 1>education remained. Too many people wrongly depend on cruise control

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<v Speaker 1>set at slightly above the speed limit and sit alone

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<v Speaker 1>in the passing lane, oblivious to their surroundings. I'm concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about allowing an automatically driven vehicle to ride alongside trucks

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<v Speaker 1>and tires.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's where's the intelligence? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Use my automatic driving a lot, and it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta keep an eye on it like anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the email. Dylan from Saint Louis writes in

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, you mentioned raise now called c GCX. I've

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<v Speaker 1>become a huge fan of the site. I now only

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<v Speaker 1>buy Starbucks, Amazon, and many other gift cards from this

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<v Speaker 1>site to get a discount. I don't go into any

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<v Speaker 1>store online or in person without checking if GCX has

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<v Speaker 1>a discounted gift card. I don't know why everyone doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>use it. You might want to mention it again on

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<v Speaker 1>your program. I'm a devoted fan who listens to your

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<v Speaker 1>podcast every week. Thanks for your hard work and all

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<v Speaker 1>you do in helping us understand tech. Yes, raise, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize they changed the name to looking looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's Gift Card Exchange or something GCX.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a great site. You save money.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes a little bit of work, and not everyone

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do the work, but yeah, if you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get it. Let's see what else here. David

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<v Speaker 1>from Northridge writes in thanks for carrying the torch for

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<v Speaker 1>free tech on the air and on podcasts. Keep up

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<v Speaker 1>the great work with all the new stuff and helping

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<v Speaker 1>other PE people. Dave from North Rich thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel from Ruther for ten rights in where's that? Ruther

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<v Speaker 1>for ten a North Carolina Rich just wanted to say thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the podcast and I always get a little

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge to help me my tech life.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the best. Well, thank you, that is my goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Harley from Tallahassee rites in, mister Demiro, I always enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>your informative show. I listen on Sundays at seven pm

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern on WFLA one hundred and seven FM. Well, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for listening there in Tallahassee, Florida. Macy from Coast

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<v Speaker 1>to Mesa writes in, I've been watching you on KTLA

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<v Speaker 1>since you first started. Oh my gosh, I probably didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the gray hairs on the side. I've used your

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<v Speaker 1>advice on so many issues. You are more helpful to

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<v Speaker 1>the quote common people than you probably know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably because I'm a common person. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a tech expert. I'm not a tech

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<v Speaker 1>like you know. I'm not like an IT person. I'm

1:45:57.560 --> 1:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>just an average person that loves this stuff. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I try to tell you what we need to

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<v Speaker 1>know about this stuff, because I'm just the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a gadget just like you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just happen to get a lot of them, so

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<v Speaker 1>I get to play with a lot of this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and tell you the good, the bad, what we need

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<v Speaker 1>to know, the websites that are useful. That's the best

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<v Speaker 1>part is it's all for you that's going to do

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<v Speaker 1>it for this episode of the show. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>links to everything I mentioned on my website. Just go

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<v Speaker 1>so much for listening. There are so many ways you

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<v Speaker 1>can spend your time. I really do appreciate you spending

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<v Speaker 1>it right here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes

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<v Speaker 1>this show possible. My name is rich d'miro. It has

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<v Speaker 1>been an honor to hang out with you for the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of hours. I'll talk to you real soon.