1 00:00:08,245 --> 00:00:16,965 Speaker 1: School of Humans. Oh my god, duh. It is another 2 00:00:17,125 --> 00:00:21,485 Speaker 1: episode of Cadaver Gals, the show where we talk about 3 00:00:21,525 --> 00:00:24,845 Speaker 1: all the ways you can die for us to cope 4 00:00:24,845 --> 00:00:27,925 Speaker 1: with our own mortality. I don't think it works, but 5 00:00:28,165 --> 00:00:31,925 Speaker 1: that's okay. We're still going to be doing it fear mongering, 6 00:00:32,405 --> 00:00:36,125 Speaker 1: having a good time. Okay. I'm your host, Gabby, along 7 00:00:36,165 --> 00:00:42,605 Speaker 1: with Nika Hi and Taylor Hello also known as Taylor. 8 00:00:43,085 --> 00:00:46,245 Speaker 1: Before we start, I wanted to tell y'all something really important, 9 00:00:46,285 --> 00:00:48,925 Speaker 1: which is I was having a bad day because it's 10 00:00:48,925 --> 00:00:54,285 Speaker 1: so like gross outside. It's like grim and rainy. But 11 00:00:54,405 --> 00:00:58,885 Speaker 1: then I remembered that I have four inch platform boots 12 00:00:58,925 --> 00:01:02,805 Speaker 1: that are iridescent. So I put those on, and I'm like, 13 00:01:02,845 --> 00:01:05,165 Speaker 1: how the heck could I not be happy with these shoes. 14 00:01:05,485 --> 00:01:08,285 Speaker 1: I want to see them. They're kind of muddy right now. 15 00:01:08,365 --> 00:01:13,565 Speaker 1: People that I haven't fixed them bleached them again. Oh, 16 00:01:13,645 --> 00:01:17,165 Speaker 1: those are very nautiful. We'll post a picture of those 17 00:01:17,205 --> 00:01:20,605 Speaker 1: on Instagram for everyone to see. And that's what I 18 00:01:20,645 --> 00:01:23,005 Speaker 1: was thinking about, Like, it's good to be grateful and 19 00:01:23,125 --> 00:01:26,085 Speaker 1: stuff for the things that you have and that can 20 00:01:26,165 --> 00:01:28,605 Speaker 1: make you feel better. Oh my gosh, Gabby, this is 21 00:01:28,605 --> 00:01:31,285 Speaker 1: like a very weird earnest moment for you. But I'm 22 00:01:31,285 --> 00:01:35,965 Speaker 1: saying specifically, be grateful if you have iridescent four inch 23 00:01:36,125 --> 00:01:41,325 Speaker 1: platform boots when we're rich, that will be our merch item. 24 00:01:41,605 --> 00:01:45,605 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Taylor is like horse girl, you know, unicorn 25 00:01:45,725 --> 00:01:50,685 Speaker 1: vibes like that fits you perfectly, Taylor. So anyway, be grateful, y'all, 26 00:01:50,765 --> 00:01:53,965 Speaker 1: especially if you have these type of shoes because they're cool. Anyway, 27 00:01:54,045 --> 00:01:56,365 Speaker 1: it's like extremely specific. I don't think that'll work for everyone, 28 00:01:56,405 --> 00:02:00,485 Speaker 1: but thanks, Gabby. Okay, you know what. I'm working on 29 00:02:01,925 --> 00:02:05,805 Speaker 1: my degree in psychology. No I'm not, but I am 30 00:02:05,805 --> 00:02:07,645 Speaker 1: going to be like doctor Phil, who's not actually a 31 00:02:07,725 --> 00:02:12,205 Speaker 1: doctor anyway. I talk about doctor Phil today. Wow. So 32 00:02:12,245 --> 00:02:14,645 Speaker 1: that brings us to the part where we say what 33 00:02:14,765 --> 00:02:16,325 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, which is we're gonna be 34 00:02:16,405 --> 00:02:21,045 Speaker 1: talking about a dog with a drug problem. And then 35 00:02:21,085 --> 00:02:25,605 Speaker 1: we're also obviously going to be going to Florida because 36 00:02:25,605 --> 00:02:28,325 Speaker 1: that's where you go when dogs have drug problems. Absolutely, 37 00:02:28,885 --> 00:02:30,805 Speaker 1: so who knows what's going to happen in Florida, but 38 00:02:30,885 --> 00:02:33,445 Speaker 1: Nika is going to tell us something crazy that happened. 39 00:02:34,165 --> 00:02:38,725 Speaker 1: A hint is eating people love Florida. And also I'll 40 00:02:38,765 --> 00:02:41,205 Speaker 1: be going on some tangents about some hoaxes that are 41 00:02:41,205 --> 00:02:43,725 Speaker 1: related to the things that we're vaguely talking about. So 42 00:02:43,805 --> 00:02:47,285 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good time. Today's content and trigger 43 00:02:47,325 --> 00:02:53,445 Speaker 1: warnings include pet death, Taylor crying because of a pet death. Well, 44 00:02:53,485 --> 00:02:55,125 Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's a death. We'll see 45 00:02:55,365 --> 00:03:02,965 Speaker 1: drug use, animal moling's, cannibalism, decaying corpses, murder, and Florida 46 00:03:03,205 --> 00:03:07,445 Speaker 1: Heaven for bed and doctor Phil and Doctor Phil watch out. 47 00:03:08,005 --> 00:03:11,605 Speaker 1: So anyway, thanks for joining us for another episode of 48 00:03:11,725 --> 00:03:26,725 Speaker 1: Cadaver Gals. We'll get into it after our theme musical. 49 00:03:31,485 --> 00:03:35,125 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as always, we sang along with the theme song. 50 00:03:35,645 --> 00:03:39,245 Speaker 1: As always, we are predictable. What can I say? But 51 00:03:39,405 --> 00:03:42,645 Speaker 1: we are going to now hear a story from Taylor 52 00:03:42,765 --> 00:03:44,965 Speaker 1: and we're gonna see if she can get through it 53 00:03:45,125 --> 00:03:48,485 Speaker 1: without crying. This is a test. It is a test 54 00:03:48,725 --> 00:03:52,685 Speaker 1: that I will likely fail. A test because that's what 55 00:03:52,765 --> 00:03:56,885 Speaker 1: Gabby's learning in psychology Doctor Phil psychology school. Yeah, exactly, 56 00:03:57,125 --> 00:03:59,965 Speaker 1: make sure that your friends talk about triggering things and 57 00:04:00,005 --> 00:04:02,085 Speaker 1: then try to get them to not cry. I'm pretty 58 00:04:02,085 --> 00:04:05,405 Speaker 1: sure that's the exact opposite of therapy, just like bought 59 00:04:05,645 --> 00:04:09,925 Speaker 1: things in I think this is Freudian, So I'm going 60 00:04:10,005 --> 00:04:14,525 Speaker 1: back to freud methods because you know he was right. Great, 61 00:04:14,605 --> 00:04:18,885 Speaker 1: that's what they said. Can I tell stop dragging about 62 00:04:18,885 --> 00:04:22,885 Speaker 1: my genius? Yes, go ahead, U as Gabby just said, 63 00:04:22,965 --> 00:04:25,005 Speaker 1: it's going to be hard for me, but you know what, 64 00:04:25,325 --> 00:04:28,805 Speaker 1: I'm doing it for all you could Daver pals out there, 65 00:04:30,005 --> 00:04:33,725 Speaker 1: So all of you vibrators out there, all of you sorry, 66 00:04:33,845 --> 00:04:38,805 Speaker 1: five could Daver listeners. So we all work in the 67 00:04:38,845 --> 00:04:42,965 Speaker 1: film and TV industry. I've really only done one documentary, 68 00:04:43,365 --> 00:04:46,245 Speaker 1: which I really kind of hate doing them, but it's 69 00:04:46,285 --> 00:04:48,845 Speaker 1: often like a longer period of time, the crews are smaller, 70 00:04:48,885 --> 00:04:50,685 Speaker 1: and all the things that you would normally do and 71 00:04:50,765 --> 00:04:55,685 Speaker 1: like and have you don't always have. So anyway, basically 72 00:04:55,725 --> 00:04:57,885 Speaker 1: I would have a heart attack filming like Tiger King 73 00:04:58,445 --> 00:05:01,645 Speaker 1: got guns, tigers, things like that really stressful for a producer. 74 00:05:02,285 --> 00:05:06,365 Speaker 1: So this is a story that goes back to twenty seventeen. 75 00:05:06,525 --> 00:05:10,005 Speaker 1: A film crew was at this forty seven year old 76 00:05:10,045 --> 00:05:14,485 Speaker 1: man's house. His name was Mario. They're filming a documentary 77 00:05:14,525 --> 00:05:18,725 Speaker 1: series for the BBC called Drugs Map of Britain. It's 78 00:05:18,765 --> 00:05:22,045 Speaker 1: a show, a documentary series where they go through different 79 00:05:22,045 --> 00:05:25,285 Speaker 1: parts of the UK mapping specific areas and their drug 80 00:05:25,325 --> 00:05:31,405 Speaker 1: of choice. Their drug of choice, Yes, mine's melatonin. This 81 00:05:31,485 --> 00:05:37,445 Speaker 1: particular episode was cocaine, so they're filming. I guess Mario 82 00:05:37,525 --> 00:05:42,125 Speaker 1: had been doing cocaine, which after that he begins to 83 00:05:42,245 --> 00:05:48,005 Speaker 1: have a seizure from Oh no, a result of this 84 00:05:48,085 --> 00:05:51,645 Speaker 1: drug use. Did they have a set medicum? No, That's 85 00:05:51,645 --> 00:05:53,885 Speaker 1: what I'm saying about documentaries. It's like you don't always 86 00:05:53,885 --> 00:05:57,405 Speaker 1: have this given. This was like a BBC documentary series, 87 00:05:57,445 --> 00:06:00,525 Speaker 1: so they probably had more than you would for those 88 00:06:00,565 --> 00:06:02,885 Speaker 1: like Tiger King type documentaries, if you know what I mean. 89 00:06:03,485 --> 00:06:06,965 Speaker 1: Are you saying there's no money documentaries and therefore they 90 00:06:07,005 --> 00:06:10,245 Speaker 1: cut corners? I don't what a surprise. I don't know 91 00:06:10,245 --> 00:06:14,045 Speaker 1: about the specific incident or situation. I don't know. I'm 92 00:06:14,125 --> 00:06:18,005 Speaker 1: rich off of the podcast Game, the nonfiction podcast Look 93 00:06:18,045 --> 00:06:21,525 Speaker 1: at Me. I'm a rich also, Taylor, can you please clarify? 94 00:06:21,645 --> 00:06:26,885 Speaker 1: Are you saying that cocaine is bad for you? Cocaine 95 00:06:27,085 --> 00:06:31,085 Speaker 1: is not something that is good for you, Therefore, okay, 96 00:06:31,245 --> 00:06:36,605 Speaker 1: it is bad for you, Therefore visa vie it's bad. 97 00:06:37,205 --> 00:06:40,325 Speaker 1: Um anyway, great, doctor Taylor, Wow, you're going to take 98 00:06:40,365 --> 00:06:44,045 Speaker 1: away all of my professional knowledge from me. Well, okay, 99 00:06:44,085 --> 00:06:47,285 Speaker 1: so obviously this is already a bad situation, right, Yes, 100 00:06:47,485 --> 00:06:52,205 Speaker 1: Mario's not doing so hot. He sees he's having a seizure. Well, 101 00:06:52,765 --> 00:06:55,485 Speaker 1: I hope they stopped filming. All of the articles that 102 00:06:55,525 --> 00:06:57,925 Speaker 1: I read they did not get very specific, but the 103 00:06:58,005 --> 00:07:03,765 Speaker 1: film crew did jump into action. But first Mario's dog, Major, 104 00:07:04,085 --> 00:07:08,085 Speaker 1: who was a Staffordshire Terry, sees his owner having this 105 00:07:08,285 --> 00:07:13,005 Speaker 1: seizure fit and lunges straight for the owner's throat, mulling 106 00:07:13,125 --> 00:07:15,885 Speaker 1: him in front of the film crew. So somebody from 107 00:07:15,885 --> 00:07:18,325 Speaker 1: the film crew they're like calling nine to one, trying 108 00:07:18,365 --> 00:07:22,125 Speaker 1: to or whatever it is in England, they're calling to 109 00:07:22,525 --> 00:07:24,805 Speaker 1: get an ambulance, to calling the police. You know. Other 110 00:07:24,845 --> 00:07:27,245 Speaker 1: people in the film crew are are trying to get 111 00:07:27,285 --> 00:07:30,525 Speaker 1: the dog off of the owner. He's like lashed onto 112 00:07:30,565 --> 00:07:36,845 Speaker 1: his throat. So I don't like that at all. I like, like, 113 00:07:37,285 --> 00:07:40,405 Speaker 1: your neck is like so fragile, like there's so many 114 00:07:40,445 --> 00:07:43,045 Speaker 1: important things going on in there, and it's just like 115 00:07:43,165 --> 00:07:48,005 Speaker 1: this tiny, little like skin enclosure that's holding up like 116 00:07:48,125 --> 00:07:52,125 Speaker 1: your huge ass head. Like I don't oh my gosh, okay, 117 00:07:52,125 --> 00:07:54,685 Speaker 1: the worst way of describing a heck, And that's your 118 00:07:54,725 --> 00:07:57,165 Speaker 1: tiny skin enclosure and it holds up your bubble head, 119 00:07:57,325 --> 00:08:01,765 Speaker 1: like that's terrible, tailor, it is terrible a doctor nas 120 00:08:01,965 --> 00:08:04,845 Speaker 1: she's talking about. Well, it's just funny because last last 121 00:08:04,845 --> 00:08:08,165 Speaker 1: week's episode we mentioned how sensitive the throat and the 122 00:08:08,245 --> 00:08:10,645 Speaker 1: neck is and how that's what's important to choke people correctly. 123 00:08:10,885 --> 00:08:15,045 Speaker 1: And now it's like this dog mauled its owner grabbed 124 00:08:15,045 --> 00:08:16,805 Speaker 1: onto the neck, which is funny because there's also a 125 00:08:16,845 --> 00:08:21,165 Speaker 1: mauling in my story. That's so funny. It's not so funny, 126 00:08:21,245 --> 00:08:24,085 Speaker 1: I did. I do not like it the throat yet anyway. 127 00:08:24,365 --> 00:08:26,245 Speaker 1: I mean, the most insane part about it for me 128 00:08:26,325 --> 00:08:29,565 Speaker 1: is that it's like Mario and Major, like it sounds 129 00:08:29,565 --> 00:08:32,245 Speaker 1: like a sitcom, sounds like a Disney sitcom. It definitely 130 00:08:32,325 --> 00:08:37,805 Speaker 1: wasn't a sitcom but a drug documentary. I can't tell 131 00:08:37,805 --> 00:08:41,765 Speaker 1: a difference, honestly. Sometimes Taylor only the facts, Taylor only 132 00:08:41,805 --> 00:08:44,765 Speaker 1: the facts. Church all right, back to the scene he's 133 00:08:44,805 --> 00:08:48,125 Speaker 1: getting mauled. The filmmakers are like, oop, sees, what the hell? 134 00:08:48,245 --> 00:08:50,805 Speaker 1: The police, the ambulance, they're on the way, but it 135 00:08:50,845 --> 00:08:54,285 Speaker 1: takes them like thirty minutes to get there. And this 136 00:08:54,325 --> 00:08:56,805 Speaker 1: part like confuses me a lot. Like in all of 137 00:08:56,845 --> 00:09:00,085 Speaker 1: the articles that I read its specified it said that 138 00:09:00,165 --> 00:09:02,125 Speaker 1: it took the cops ten minutes to get into the 139 00:09:02,125 --> 00:09:04,645 Speaker 1: apartment because of like the way the door was locked 140 00:09:04,725 --> 00:09:08,245 Speaker 1: or something. But I'm like, I guess the film croup 141 00:09:08,325 --> 00:09:10,485 Speaker 1: was unable to lock it from the inside because like 142 00:09:10,525 --> 00:09:12,925 Speaker 1: other articles said that they were like trapped inside for 143 00:09:12,965 --> 00:09:15,805 Speaker 1: like ten minutes, So it took it took them like 144 00:09:15,885 --> 00:09:17,885 Speaker 1: ten minutes to break down the door so that they 145 00:09:17,965 --> 00:09:21,005 Speaker 1: could get into the scene. So that's like, that's I 146 00:09:21,045 --> 00:09:23,605 Speaker 1: guess that makes sense. If you're like a drug dealer, 147 00:09:23,645 --> 00:09:26,245 Speaker 1: you probably have a lot of locks. I'm just assuming 148 00:09:26,365 --> 00:09:28,365 Speaker 1: or I don't know about Mario, actually I don't know 149 00:09:28,405 --> 00:09:32,045 Speaker 1: what's up with him, but I assume, you know, probably 150 00:09:32,045 --> 00:09:33,845 Speaker 1: if you have lots of drugs, you're going to make 151 00:09:33,845 --> 00:09:38,165 Speaker 1: sure people don't get in. I mean yeah. But also, PSA, 152 00:09:38,285 --> 00:09:41,045 Speaker 1: that's like a huge fire hazard. Like if there's a 153 00:09:41,085 --> 00:09:43,485 Speaker 1: fire and you can't find the key or have a 154 00:09:43,525 --> 00:09:47,285 Speaker 1: way to get out of your apartments, that's a problem anyway. 155 00:09:47,325 --> 00:09:50,205 Speaker 1: Also what's a hazard is having a lot of cocaine 156 00:09:50,205 --> 00:09:54,805 Speaker 1: in your apartment, true and your system. So anyway, the 157 00:09:55,245 --> 00:09:58,245 Speaker 1: police and the ambulance get there, Mario's rushed to the 158 00:09:58,285 --> 00:10:04,645 Speaker 1: hospital where he dies for me, crushed larynx, which just 159 00:10:04,645 --> 00:10:07,845 Speaker 1: like really freaks me out, the whole throat thing. Just 160 00:10:07,965 --> 00:10:10,005 Speaker 1: so it was the dog. It was the dog. Why 161 00:10:10,045 --> 00:10:12,325 Speaker 1: would the dog attack him like that if that's his owner, 162 00:10:12,645 --> 00:10:17,085 Speaker 1: that's so sad. So Major the dog gets taken in obviously, 163 00:10:17,125 --> 00:10:19,885 Speaker 1: they're like, what's going on? Why did this happen? This 164 00:10:20,005 --> 00:10:23,045 Speaker 1: dog wasn't known to do that. So they run some 165 00:10:23,085 --> 00:10:26,685 Speaker 1: tests to see what the heck. Turns out Major was 166 00:10:26,805 --> 00:10:30,565 Speaker 1: high as a kite. Oh, he was eight times the 167 00:10:30,685 --> 00:10:32,925 Speaker 1: drug drive limit, which I didn't know that was really 168 00:10:33,205 --> 00:10:38,325 Speaker 1: a thing, like he could drive. Well, the human limit 169 00:10:39,205 --> 00:10:42,045 Speaker 1: was he was eight times that. Obviously there is no 170 00:10:42,205 --> 00:10:46,005 Speaker 1: dogs don't drive, so okay, So they did a year 171 00:10:46,045 --> 00:10:49,805 Speaker 1: analysis to determine that the dog had consumed cocaine and morphine. 172 00:10:50,205 --> 00:10:53,005 Speaker 1: So the dog was clearly in an altered state. So 173 00:10:53,405 --> 00:10:56,765 Speaker 1: it was kind of assumed that he saw his owner 174 00:10:56,885 --> 00:11:00,005 Speaker 1: seizing and then just kind of like lost it. I 175 00:11:00,125 --> 00:11:02,005 Speaker 1: don't know if the dog was put down or not, 176 00:11:03,005 --> 00:11:07,045 Speaker 1: So that is kind of the tea. But I do 177 00:11:07,125 --> 00:11:10,325 Speaker 1: want to mention because you know, me and my animals 178 00:11:10,365 --> 00:11:14,205 Speaker 1: and my dogs and things. Oh we know, so this 179 00:11:14,245 --> 00:11:18,725 Speaker 1: was a Staffordshire Terrier, and these breeds get a bad reputation. 180 00:11:19,165 --> 00:11:22,485 Speaker 1: But I want to quickly clarify about these all of 181 00:11:22,525 --> 00:11:26,005 Speaker 1: these breeds, these pitbulls and whatnot. First of all, pit 182 00:11:26,125 --> 00:11:30,485 Speaker 1: bulls are actually not technically a breed, but they kind 183 00:11:30,525 --> 00:11:33,725 Speaker 1: of like refer to a kind of dog. So like 184 00:11:33,765 --> 00:11:36,765 Speaker 1: they're referring to like one of the following breeds. They're 185 00:11:36,805 --> 00:11:41,965 Speaker 1: either like an American pitbull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire 186 00:11:42,005 --> 00:11:45,125 Speaker 1: bull Terrier, an American bully. So they all kind of 187 00:11:45,125 --> 00:11:50,365 Speaker 1: have these like you know, square heads, they're muscily, they're adorable. Yeah, 188 00:11:50,445 --> 00:11:53,325 Speaker 1: I was about to say, is the kind of dog 189 00:11:53,365 --> 00:11:55,525 Speaker 1: that we're talking about just like extremely cute, Like if 190 00:11:55,525 --> 00:11:57,125 Speaker 1: I look at an extremely cute dog, I'm like, that's 191 00:11:57,125 --> 00:11:59,525 Speaker 1: a pit bull. Well yeah, so because they're adorable, So 192 00:11:59,565 --> 00:12:01,565 Speaker 1: a lot of people just they just call them, they 193 00:12:01,605 --> 00:12:03,485 Speaker 1: just call them a pit That just is kind of 194 00:12:03,485 --> 00:12:05,725 Speaker 1: a way of saying they're one of these like fee 195 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:11,045 Speaker 1: breeds that you know, people associate negatively. So oftentimes people 196 00:12:11,085 --> 00:12:14,365 Speaker 1: will just completely misbreed them and they just say that 197 00:12:14,405 --> 00:12:16,485 Speaker 1: these this is a pit bull. But so many times 198 00:12:16,525 --> 00:12:19,805 Speaker 1: they're like majority something else, Like my parents had this 199 00:12:19,885 --> 00:12:24,005 Speaker 1: dog who he looked most people would say he was 200 00:12:24,045 --> 00:12:26,005 Speaker 1: a pit but he we did like one of those 201 00:12:26,085 --> 00:12:28,205 Speaker 1: DNA tests or whatever, and it said that he was 202 00:12:28,245 --> 00:12:31,045 Speaker 1: like mostly a beagle. So white people love doing those 203 00:12:31,125 --> 00:12:38,165 Speaker 1: DNA tests, said lovingly, fair enough, Sure, yes, that is correct. Correct, 204 00:12:38,205 --> 00:12:42,405 Speaker 1: We do that, at least I do so. Anyway, it's 205 00:12:42,445 --> 00:12:46,565 Speaker 1: just a generic term that people use often misusing that 206 00:12:46,685 --> 00:12:51,085 Speaker 1: term anyway. Also in my humblest of opinions, I feel like, 207 00:12:51,085 --> 00:12:54,645 Speaker 1: you know where I'm going with this. It's not necessarily 208 00:12:54,685 --> 00:12:57,845 Speaker 1: that these dogs are bad. I think that it's more 209 00:12:58,005 --> 00:13:02,645 Speaker 1: there are bad dog owners. So bad behaviors are either 210 00:13:03,245 --> 00:13:06,645 Speaker 1: like allowed, they are allowed to carry out the behaviors, 211 00:13:06,765 --> 00:13:10,525 Speaker 1: or they're like learned, like taking cocaine. You know, well 212 00:13:10,645 --> 00:13:14,085 Speaker 1: that's a learned behavior from a dog. Oh, yes, learned. 213 00:13:14,125 --> 00:13:17,845 Speaker 1: But also like, for example, if you leave stuff like 214 00:13:18,285 --> 00:13:19,805 Speaker 1: if you leave like a plate of food down, your 215 00:13:19,845 --> 00:13:23,205 Speaker 1: dog eats the food or something, then they like, if 216 00:13:23,245 --> 00:13:26,485 Speaker 1: they don't get disciplined properly, then they I feel like 217 00:13:26,525 --> 00:13:28,485 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I don't know that much about all of that, 218 00:13:28,565 --> 00:13:32,165 Speaker 1: but you you see where I'm going. I guess sure, 219 00:13:32,325 --> 00:13:37,765 Speaker 1: Taylor anyway, Dog expert anyway. So like if you leave 220 00:13:37,805 --> 00:13:41,605 Speaker 1: out a plate of cocaine, that's the owners like, well 221 00:13:41,765 --> 00:13:43,645 Speaker 1: that it's going to get into it. You know, look, 222 00:13:43,645 --> 00:13:46,165 Speaker 1: if you're lead dogs be sniffing, like truly, if you 223 00:13:46,205 --> 00:13:49,765 Speaker 1: think about it, the perfect cocaine addict are dogs. It's 224 00:13:49,765 --> 00:13:52,125 Speaker 1: because they sniff all the time. That's all they do. 225 00:13:52,245 --> 00:13:54,645 Speaker 1: It's about they really are. I feel like it's it's 226 00:13:54,685 --> 00:13:58,925 Speaker 1: about how responsible the owner is. So like if you're 227 00:13:59,605 --> 00:14:02,405 Speaker 1: leaving drugs out for the dog to get, or you're 228 00:14:02,525 --> 00:14:06,005 Speaker 1: leaving these things out um that they can get it into, 229 00:14:06,045 --> 00:14:08,885 Speaker 1: then that's problematic. But I'm also I'm not trying to 230 00:14:09,005 --> 00:14:13,325 Speaker 1: victim blame Mario. You know, stuff just is happening. You know, 231 00:14:13,405 --> 00:14:15,205 Speaker 1: you're on drugs, like you start to get it a 232 00:14:15,205 --> 00:14:19,285 Speaker 1: little irresponsible, that kind of stuff. I suppose it happens. 233 00:14:20,125 --> 00:14:23,925 Speaker 1: But these cute little puppy dogs are super strong and mustley, 234 00:14:24,045 --> 00:14:28,605 Speaker 1: so yes, often people use them for protection and so 235 00:14:28,645 --> 00:14:32,845 Speaker 1: the aggressive behavior can be taught. You know. That's why 236 00:14:32,925 --> 00:14:35,685 Speaker 1: like your little dog Gus is so aggressive because he's 237 00:14:35,685 --> 00:14:38,325 Speaker 1: an attack dog. Yeah, I know you taught him all 238 00:14:38,365 --> 00:14:42,885 Speaker 1: of those maneuvers of like sitting in people's laps. Yeah, 239 00:14:42,925 --> 00:14:46,845 Speaker 1: while wearing like a taco hat so aggressive, but he 240 00:14:46,845 --> 00:14:50,765 Speaker 1: does have a taco hat in some don't leave your 241 00:14:50,845 --> 00:14:55,165 Speaker 1: morphine and cocaine out for the dog to get. Also PSA, 242 00:14:55,325 --> 00:14:57,605 Speaker 1: I just want to mention that there are other typical 243 00:14:57,645 --> 00:15:00,605 Speaker 1: household drugs that you probably have in your house that 244 00:15:00,645 --> 00:15:04,525 Speaker 1: are extremely toxic to dogs, such as Advil, motor and Taylan, 245 00:15:04,605 --> 00:15:08,045 Speaker 1: all antidepressed since sleep aids and add medication and so 246 00:15:08,085 --> 00:15:11,205 Speaker 1: many more. If your dog has consumed any of these, 247 00:15:11,325 --> 00:15:16,365 Speaker 1: take them to the vet stat and lastly or meth. Well, yes, 248 00:15:16,605 --> 00:15:19,205 Speaker 1: I know so many dogs on prozac and other white 249 00:15:19,205 --> 00:15:21,605 Speaker 1: people thing. I mean, you got to like go to 250 00:15:21,645 --> 00:15:23,725 Speaker 1: the vet and get that. I take my dogs pro zach. 251 00:15:23,805 --> 00:15:27,645 Speaker 1: It should be fine, right. The last thing I will 252 00:15:27,685 --> 00:15:32,045 Speaker 1: say to all of this is to adopt and don't shop. 253 00:15:32,325 --> 00:15:35,285 Speaker 1: And my little angel Gus was a shelter boy. He's 254 00:15:35,325 --> 00:15:37,285 Speaker 1: the greatest thing to ever hit the planet. So now 255 00:15:37,285 --> 00:15:39,965 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go cry thinking about how much I love him. Well, 256 00:15:39,965 --> 00:15:42,285 Speaker 1: thank you, Taylor, and thank you for getting through that. 257 00:15:43,245 --> 00:15:46,965 Speaker 1: Nary a tear has been shed yet. My eyes are 258 00:15:47,005 --> 00:15:51,365 Speaker 1: just wet. They're just a little wet. Yeah, but aren't 259 00:15:51,405 --> 00:15:54,405 Speaker 1: we all Okay? Well, we're gonna talk a little bit 260 00:15:54,405 --> 00:16:02,485 Speaker 1: more about animals on drugs after the break. Oh, welcome 261 00:16:02,485 --> 00:16:06,805 Speaker 1: back to Cadaver Gals. Taylor has jumped off of her 262 00:16:06,885 --> 00:16:12,285 Speaker 1: soapbox PSA animal PSA moment, and we're going to talk 263 00:16:12,325 --> 00:16:16,565 Speaker 1: about some other animals on drugs because I think here 264 00:16:16,605 --> 00:16:19,925 Speaker 1: on Cadaver Gals, it's important to get to the bottom 265 00:16:19,925 --> 00:16:22,685 Speaker 1: of the truth, even if the truth is explained a 266 00:16:22,685 --> 00:16:25,965 Speaker 1: little badly and slightly inaccurately, you know, so that we 267 00:16:26,005 --> 00:16:28,205 Speaker 1: can make jokes and draw parallels to our own lives. 268 00:16:28,285 --> 00:16:31,125 Speaker 1: But you know, that story was sad ASTech that the 269 00:16:31,205 --> 00:16:33,765 Speaker 1: dog was on cocaine U and that was a true 270 00:16:33,845 --> 00:16:37,205 Speaker 1: sad tale. But I want you all to know because 271 00:16:37,245 --> 00:16:41,445 Speaker 1: you've all been wondering that meth gators are not real. 272 00:16:42,965 --> 00:16:46,845 Speaker 1: What I know. Wow, you might be thinking to yourself, 273 00:16:46,885 --> 00:16:49,845 Speaker 1: I've never ever thought that alligators were on meth. But 274 00:16:49,885 --> 00:16:53,405 Speaker 1: the truth is you have been thinking that this whole time. 275 00:16:53,965 --> 00:16:55,925 Speaker 1: In fact, it's the only thought you've ever had. So 276 00:16:56,045 --> 00:17:02,085 Speaker 1: let's get down to business. Remember meth gators being a thing. 277 00:17:02,165 --> 00:17:04,405 Speaker 1: Like I was in high school and there was news 278 00:17:04,405 --> 00:17:06,325 Speaker 1: that came out and I just believed it because Florida 279 00:17:06,445 --> 00:17:08,805 Speaker 1: be crazy, it's like a year ago. Oh never mind, 280 00:17:08,885 --> 00:17:10,485 Speaker 1: I'm just kinda no idea what it was, but I 281 00:17:10,525 --> 00:17:14,045 Speaker 1: just wanted to say I just wanted to say, well, 282 00:17:14,685 --> 00:17:17,885 Speaker 1: I mean, it was like two years ago. So I 283 00:17:17,925 --> 00:17:21,605 Speaker 1: don't know if that calculates correctly, because either Nica was 284 00:17:21,645 --> 00:17:24,845 Speaker 1: like twenty one and still in high school or we're 285 00:17:24,925 --> 00:17:27,605 Speaker 1: learning some new things. Y'all know, I didn't go to college. 286 00:17:27,725 --> 00:17:31,365 Speaker 1: High school was really hard. I didn't go to college, 287 00:17:31,365 --> 00:17:36,285 Speaker 1: but I did do high school twice the same thing. Okay, 288 00:17:36,365 --> 00:17:38,645 Speaker 1: so let's get down to business. Let's go back in 289 00:17:38,685 --> 00:17:42,725 Speaker 1: time to July twenty nineteen or sixty five years ago, 290 00:17:43,445 --> 00:17:48,445 Speaker 1: feeling in this small town called Loretta, Tennessee. It's south 291 00:17:48,485 --> 00:17:51,925 Speaker 1: of Nashville, very small population of like seventeen hundred people. 292 00:17:52,805 --> 00:17:56,805 Speaker 1: And one day their police station just put out this 293 00:17:56,965 --> 00:18:03,205 Speaker 1: notice on Facebook that said that early this morning they 294 00:18:03,285 --> 00:18:07,045 Speaker 1: served a search warrant and inside that home they found 295 00:18:07,205 --> 00:18:12,205 Speaker 1: Andy Perry attempting to flush meth anthetamines along with several 296 00:18:12,245 --> 00:18:17,045 Speaker 1: items of paraphernalia down the toilet. He was unsuccessful. He 297 00:18:17,165 --> 00:18:21,525 Speaker 1: was then arrested for possession of meth and for selling meth, 298 00:18:21,565 --> 00:18:25,805 Speaker 1: and for drug paraphernalia, etc. Etc. And then that was 299 00:18:25,885 --> 00:18:31,005 Speaker 1: followed by saying, folks, please don't flush your drugs m K. 300 00:18:31,925 --> 00:18:34,485 Speaker 1: When you send something down the sewer pipe, it ends 301 00:18:34,565 --> 00:18:37,365 Speaker 1: up in our retention ponds for processing before it is 302 00:18:37,405 --> 00:18:40,645 Speaker 1: sent downstream. Now, our sewer guys take great pride in 303 00:18:40,645 --> 00:18:43,245 Speaker 1: releasing water that is cleaner than what is in the creek, 304 00:18:43,525 --> 00:18:46,605 Speaker 1: but they are not really prepared for meth. Duck geese 305 00:18:46,605 --> 00:18:49,045 Speaker 1: and other foul frequent our treatment ponds. And we shudder 306 00:18:49,125 --> 00:18:53,005 Speaker 1: to think what one all hyped up on meth would do. Furthermore, 307 00:18:53,445 --> 00:18:56,245 Speaker 1: if it made it far enough, we could create meth 308 00:18:56,325 --> 00:18:59,405 Speaker 1: gators in Shoal Creek and the Tennessee River down in 309 00:18:59,525 --> 00:19:06,085 Speaker 1: North Alabama. Meth gators. I'm sorry. So the police posted 310 00:19:06,085 --> 00:19:07,765 Speaker 1: that on their Facebook. First of all, I want to 311 00:19:07,805 --> 00:19:10,565 Speaker 1: clarify I assume that this was in Florida, because meth 312 00:19:10,565 --> 00:19:12,805 Speaker 1: gators sound like a Florida thing. So I just find 313 00:19:12,805 --> 00:19:17,405 Speaker 1: that hilarious. Two, the police posted this on their official 314 00:19:17,445 --> 00:19:21,205 Speaker 1: Facebook page. Well, I just wanted to say importantly that 315 00:19:21,285 --> 00:19:24,885 Speaker 1: I think what is missing in the American police force 316 00:19:25,245 --> 00:19:29,085 Speaker 1: is more jokes. I was just about to complaint about that. 317 00:19:29,365 --> 00:19:32,365 Speaker 1: Thank you, Gabby for saying that. I like this man 318 00:19:32,445 --> 00:19:36,365 Speaker 1: really just cracked as knuckles after busting someone from meth 319 00:19:36,605 --> 00:19:38,685 Speaker 1: and said, you know what, let's make it. Let's make 320 00:19:38,725 --> 00:19:42,605 Speaker 1: a lighthearted joke out of this. No one ever makes 321 00:19:42,685 --> 00:19:47,445 Speaker 1: lighthearted jokes out of something that's serious. No one on 322 00:19:47,525 --> 00:19:51,805 Speaker 1: this podcast stuff like that. But I guess we're also 323 00:19:51,925 --> 00:19:54,285 Speaker 1: not the police. We should be clear that we are 324 00:19:54,325 --> 00:19:59,485 Speaker 1: not police. I don't have the responsibility of police. So 325 00:20:00,285 --> 00:20:05,365 Speaker 1: we're not police. We're not scientists, we're not psychologists, we're nothing. 326 00:20:06,405 --> 00:20:09,045 Speaker 1: But anyway, so after this was posted, they obviously got 327 00:20:09,045 --> 00:20:12,485 Speaker 1: a lot of media inquiries from people around the world 328 00:20:12,485 --> 00:20:15,165 Speaker 1: being like, yo, what the heck is a meth gator? 329 00:20:15,285 --> 00:20:17,885 Speaker 1: Is that a real thing? And then a few days 330 00:20:18,005 --> 00:20:22,205 Speaker 1: later and they posted like, hey guys, um, that was 331 00:20:22,245 --> 00:20:26,165 Speaker 1: a joke. It's just really funny joke. That was a 332 00:20:26,165 --> 00:20:28,365 Speaker 1: funny joke. But the BBC had talked to the mayor 333 00:20:28,405 --> 00:20:31,365 Speaker 1: of the town who was just like, I can't go 334 00:20:31,405 --> 00:20:35,125 Speaker 1: anywhere now without hearing something about meth gators, and he 335 00:20:35,285 --> 00:20:37,805 Speaker 1: said that, you know, it's was clearly a joke, but 336 00:20:37,845 --> 00:20:40,685 Speaker 1: the humor might have been lost on some people outside 337 00:20:40,685 --> 00:20:44,525 Speaker 1: of the region because that was a sophisticated meth gator 338 00:20:44,645 --> 00:20:49,885 Speaker 1: joke that a lot of people. I mean, it's plausible, though, 339 00:20:50,165 --> 00:20:52,005 Speaker 1: is the thing you know, like it's I feel like 340 00:20:52,085 --> 00:20:56,045 Speaker 1: it is also what kills me? Is the mkay about 341 00:20:57,925 --> 00:21:01,525 Speaker 1: Like Okay, winky face, just keep them in your apartment 342 00:21:01,965 --> 00:21:04,245 Speaker 1: with a bunch of But I would say, okay, if 343 00:21:04,285 --> 00:21:06,845 Speaker 1: you're trying not to get arrested for drugs, probably flushed 344 00:21:06,845 --> 00:21:09,365 Speaker 1: them down the toilet. I mean, they do make a 345 00:21:09,405 --> 00:21:13,005 Speaker 1: good point though, that Okay, here's what I'll say. Here's 346 00:21:13,005 --> 00:21:17,725 Speaker 1: what I'll say that, what will you say? Here's what 347 00:21:17,805 --> 00:21:21,605 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. Nobody knows what Gaby's gonna say. Here 348 00:21:21,685 --> 00:21:24,365 Speaker 1: is what I'm here. I've said it so much I 349 00:21:24,365 --> 00:21:28,325 Speaker 1: don't remember what I was gonna say. But they did, Okay, 350 00:21:28,365 --> 00:21:30,805 Speaker 1: they did in that Facebook post. They did make a 351 00:21:30,845 --> 00:21:34,365 Speaker 1: good point, maybe less about meth gators, but more about 352 00:21:34,445 --> 00:21:41,365 Speaker 1: like meth geese, like meth ducks, meth foul. Yeah, a 353 00:21:41,525 --> 00:21:45,885 Speaker 1: goose on meth No, thank you, that's almost scarier than 354 00:21:45,925 --> 00:21:52,085 Speaker 1: an alligator in my opinion. That's my soapbox moment. Thank 355 00:21:52,085 --> 00:21:55,805 Speaker 1: you for sharing. But there have been, you know, animals 356 00:21:55,845 --> 00:21:58,485 Speaker 1: around the world obviously, as Taylor told us, that have 357 00:21:58,605 --> 00:22:02,165 Speaker 1: been up on some drugs. In the article from the 358 00:22:02,205 --> 00:22:05,685 Speaker 1: BBC about these meth gators, they had mentioned there was 359 00:22:05,725 --> 00:22:10,565 Speaker 1: another scandal in a nearby state, Alabama, a meth incident 360 00:22:10,605 --> 00:22:13,765 Speaker 1: in Alabama where there was a squirrel that they think 361 00:22:13,885 --> 00:22:16,045 Speaker 1: was on meth that was being kept in this dude's 362 00:22:16,085 --> 00:22:19,045 Speaker 1: home and then the squirrel attacked the dude. The squirrel 363 00:22:19,165 --> 00:22:22,245 Speaker 1: did not give a fatal blow, but and they also 364 00:22:22,285 --> 00:22:24,165 Speaker 1: didn't really know how to check the squirrel for meth, 365 00:22:24,205 --> 00:22:27,125 Speaker 1: but it was showing some like methi behavior. So what 366 00:22:27,165 --> 00:22:30,845 Speaker 1: they did was they just release the squirrel into the wild. 367 00:22:31,005 --> 00:22:33,965 Speaker 1: So who knows there might still be a meth squirrel 368 00:22:34,045 --> 00:22:36,845 Speaker 1: out there. They did say so in the articles that 369 00:22:36,885 --> 00:22:39,925 Speaker 1: I was reading, it was saying that like the coat, 370 00:22:40,005 --> 00:22:42,765 Speaker 1: well this is in the event of cocaine, but like 371 00:22:42,805 --> 00:22:44,965 Speaker 1: it shouldn't have stayed in it doesn't stay in their 372 00:22:44,965 --> 00:22:47,725 Speaker 1: systems for that long. But that's just that's cocaine. So 373 00:22:47,765 --> 00:22:49,845 Speaker 1: I don't know about meth and squirrels. I don't know 374 00:22:49,885 --> 00:22:52,085 Speaker 1: how wiley this squirrel is, Like, I don't know if 375 00:22:52,085 --> 00:22:54,765 Speaker 1: he had connects or something and could keep getting his meth. 376 00:22:54,965 --> 00:22:58,285 Speaker 1: But there's also there was a study in the UK 377 00:22:58,565 --> 00:23:04,325 Speaker 1: and they found cocaine and ketamine in some fresh water shrimp. Oh, 378 00:23:04,445 --> 00:23:06,365 Speaker 1: let me tell you, you don't don't make those into 379 00:23:06,445 --> 00:23:11,365 Speaker 1: popcorn shrimp. You make those into poppers shrimp. Oh my god, 380 00:23:14,485 --> 00:23:22,445 Speaker 1: loll loll loll. And here's the thing, okay, duck, geese, squirrels, shrimps. Okay, Like, yeah, 381 00:23:22,485 --> 00:23:26,045 Speaker 1: that makes sense that they could potentially be on drugs 382 00:23:26,045 --> 00:23:28,485 Speaker 1: of drugs that are accidentally put into the water system 383 00:23:28,565 --> 00:23:31,685 Speaker 1: or whatever. But the thing about a gator is gators 384 00:23:31,725 --> 00:23:34,845 Speaker 1: can weigh up to like a thousand pounds, which means 385 00:23:34,885 --> 00:23:37,245 Speaker 1: they would need to ingest a lot of meth to 386 00:23:37,285 --> 00:23:40,285 Speaker 1: get high. How much meth, Well, I couldn't figure that 387 00:23:40,325 --> 00:23:43,125 Speaker 1: out because when I typed into Google how much meth 388 00:23:43,285 --> 00:23:45,965 Speaker 1: is too much meth? All that came up was the 389 00:23:46,045 --> 00:23:50,165 Speaker 1: suicide hot line number. So alas, I didn't figure it out. 390 00:23:50,245 --> 00:23:53,045 Speaker 1: But it would just be hard for the gators to 391 00:23:53,085 --> 00:23:56,365 Speaker 1: get high enough to do any damage, you know, because 392 00:23:56,405 --> 00:23:59,405 Speaker 1: also the meth would be diluted in the water. So 393 00:23:59,525 --> 00:24:02,445 Speaker 1: and also gators notoriously just they don't drink enough water, 394 00:24:02,485 --> 00:24:07,525 Speaker 1: you know, they're always dehydrated. That's what they're scared. Yeah, 395 00:24:07,565 --> 00:24:10,085 Speaker 1: that's why there's skins so dry it is because they 396 00:24:10,085 --> 00:24:12,325 Speaker 1: don't drink enough water. We both saw it and we 397 00:24:12,365 --> 00:24:16,645 Speaker 1: went for it. So anyway, so I just wanted to 398 00:24:16,685 --> 00:24:20,485 Speaker 1: set the record straight because everyone was wondering our meth 399 00:24:20,525 --> 00:24:25,925 Speaker 1: gators real and they aren't. Okay, this is important journalistic 400 00:24:26,565 --> 00:24:30,005 Speaker 1: like a ventures. I'm really really happy, Gabby. Yeah, open 401 00:24:30,125 --> 00:24:32,565 Speaker 1: up about this today and put the work in. I 402 00:24:32,605 --> 00:24:37,725 Speaker 1: think people just witness some journalism happen. So you're welcome. 403 00:24:38,565 --> 00:24:44,445 Speaker 1: You're welcome, no problem. So, as Nica mentioned, it was 404 00:24:44,565 --> 00:24:48,205 Speaker 1: really surprising that this story was set in the state 405 00:24:48,245 --> 00:24:51,925 Speaker 1: of Tennessee because it does sound like a very Floridian 406 00:24:52,685 --> 00:24:57,365 Speaker 1: story because Florida is filled with crazy things that happened. 407 00:24:57,405 --> 00:25:01,685 Speaker 1: And yes, I'm stereotyping the whole state, but you know what, sorry, 408 00:25:02,005 --> 00:25:06,045 Speaker 1: sue me, sue me, Florida, come at me. But Nica 409 00:25:06,125 --> 00:25:08,605 Speaker 1: actually does have a story in Florida. So that is 410 00:25:08,645 --> 00:25:16,005 Speaker 1: the segue into Nika telling us about something crazy. Oh yeah, actually, 411 00:25:16,005 --> 00:25:18,605 Speaker 1: crazy is the bad is not an appropriate word to 412 00:25:18,725 --> 00:25:26,245 Speaker 1: use for this story, so I will say something bizarre happened, Yes, Gavy, 413 00:25:26,325 --> 00:25:29,605 Speaker 1: thank you so much. So I have a little bit 414 00:25:29,605 --> 00:25:32,245 Speaker 1: of a fascination with Florida because it is just such 415 00:25:32,245 --> 00:25:35,405 Speaker 1: a strange little place. In my opinion, you have like 416 00:25:35,685 --> 00:25:38,645 Speaker 1: the bottom, which is very Latino, but then Central Florida 417 00:25:38,765 --> 00:25:42,445 Speaker 1: is like insanely white supremacist, and then you have everything 418 00:25:42,445 --> 00:25:47,285 Speaker 1: in between. It's just fascinating. So we're gonna go over 419 00:25:47,485 --> 00:25:51,885 Speaker 1: to Jupiter, Florida, and we're gonna go all the way 420 00:25:51,925 --> 00:25:55,525 Speaker 1: back to August fifteenth, twenty sixteen, which twenty sixteen is 421 00:25:55,525 --> 00:25:57,485 Speaker 1: actually the year I did graduate high school. So I 422 00:25:57,645 --> 00:26:01,085 Speaker 1: was graduating high school when this happened. Amazing, But the 423 00:26:01,165 --> 00:26:04,885 Speaker 1: meth gators hadn't happened yet. No, no, I'm still questioning 424 00:26:04,885 --> 00:26:13,685 Speaker 1: your timeline. Okay, laughs nervously. Um, okay, so I'm actually underage. No, 425 00:26:13,725 --> 00:26:18,125 Speaker 1: I'm kidding. So in August fifteenth, twenty sixteen, and this 426 00:26:18,565 --> 00:26:21,485 Speaker 1: this is a crazy story, Martin County sheriff deputies they 427 00:26:21,525 --> 00:26:23,605 Speaker 1: pull up to the home of a couple living in 428 00:26:23,685 --> 00:26:26,685 Speaker 1: as I said, Juper to Florida because a neighbor had 429 00:26:26,725 --> 00:26:29,845 Speaker 1: made a really intense nine one one call saying that 430 00:26:29,965 --> 00:26:33,525 Speaker 1: someone was being attacked and that he had been stabbed. Okay, 431 00:26:33,725 --> 00:26:38,605 Speaker 1: we're going okay, So immediately the sheriffs they noticed something 432 00:26:38,685 --> 00:26:40,965 Speaker 1: is wrong because there is a huge trail of blood 433 00:26:41,045 --> 00:26:44,525 Speaker 1: going down the driveway from the garage. So they enter 434 00:26:44,725 --> 00:26:46,845 Speaker 1: the garage and right in front of the garage, they 435 00:26:46,845 --> 00:26:50,085 Speaker 1: find nineteen year old Austin Haroof on top of a 436 00:26:50,165 --> 00:26:53,805 Speaker 1: fifty nine year old John Stevens, and Austin was biting 437 00:26:53,885 --> 00:26:59,765 Speaker 1: John's face off and growling, oh yep, neck and face. Now. Michelle, 438 00:26:59,965 --> 00:27:02,765 Speaker 1: John's wife was nearby and she had been beaten and 439 00:27:02,885 --> 00:27:07,325 Speaker 1: was unresponsive, unconscious, probably dead. They tried to get Austin 440 00:27:07,445 --> 00:27:10,525 Speaker 1: off of John's body, but he refused, and they literally 441 00:27:10,565 --> 00:27:13,525 Speaker 1: had to taze him, kick him in the head multiple times, 442 00:27:13,725 --> 00:27:17,125 Speaker 1: and actually wait for a law enforcement dog to come 443 00:27:17,565 --> 00:27:20,165 Speaker 1: and to get Austin off of him, because the dog 444 00:27:20,205 --> 00:27:23,605 Speaker 1: was literally biting Austin's arms trying to get him off 445 00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:28,045 Speaker 1: of John, and he resisted intensely. It's insane, like he 446 00:27:28,165 --> 00:27:30,925 Speaker 1: was on I don't know what was going on, but 447 00:27:30,965 --> 00:27:33,285 Speaker 1: it was just absolutely bananas. There was a point when 448 00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:36,085 Speaker 1: Austin literally, y'all just kill me, and it was just 449 00:27:36,125 --> 00:27:38,885 Speaker 1: a really intense, terrible struggle. And I know this because 450 00:27:38,885 --> 00:27:41,405 Speaker 1: I saw like a seven minute YouTube video of the 451 00:27:41,405 --> 00:27:44,645 Speaker 1: sheriff describing the incident and going through the garage and 452 00:27:44,765 --> 00:27:49,205 Speaker 1: showing exactly where things happened. So let's go back a 453 00:27:49,245 --> 00:27:53,125 Speaker 1: little bit. So there is a nine one one phone 454 00:27:53,125 --> 00:27:57,645 Speaker 1: call available to listen where Mina Austin's mom called prior 455 00:27:57,725 --> 00:28:01,805 Speaker 1: to this attack. So apparently what had happened is Austin 456 00:28:01,885 --> 00:28:06,045 Speaker 1: and his father were out for dinner and Austin took off. 457 00:28:06,365 --> 00:28:09,485 Speaker 1: It seems like he had been acting strange pretty recently. 458 00:28:09,845 --> 00:28:12,325 Speaker 1: His mom was worried about him. His sister was also 459 00:28:12,405 --> 00:28:14,765 Speaker 1: kind of worried about him, and he and his father 460 00:28:14,845 --> 00:28:17,325 Speaker 1: got into an argument and he left the restaurant with 461 00:28:17,325 --> 00:28:20,925 Speaker 1: no idea, just a pocket knife and he left on foot, 462 00:28:20,965 --> 00:28:24,445 Speaker 1: and then somehow stumbled into Michelle and John's neighborhood and 463 00:28:24,565 --> 00:28:29,885 Speaker 1: they were outside just fleeing dinner. I know, yeah, very strange, 464 00:28:30,165 --> 00:28:32,845 Speaker 1: Like why would you want to leave a good restaurant, 465 00:28:33,005 --> 00:28:36,525 Speaker 1: good suburban restaurant, good Applebee's, you know, like good Applebee's, 466 00:28:36,925 --> 00:28:41,445 Speaker 1: get those Apple teenies. M yeah, post pandemic, I want 467 00:28:41,485 --> 00:28:45,965 Speaker 1: to finally go to an Applebee's. You've been waiting for 468 00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:50,125 Speaker 1: her whole time now. Mina also told the nine on 469 00:28:50,285 --> 00:28:54,285 Speaker 1: one operator that he had been saying very weird things 470 00:28:54,285 --> 00:28:57,765 Speaker 1: like he felt immortal, he felt invincible. He said he 471 00:28:57,805 --> 00:29:01,005 Speaker 1: had superhero powers, and this was very worrying for her. 472 00:29:01,165 --> 00:29:03,965 Speaker 1: Austin's case is really fascinating and has a lot to 473 00:29:04,005 --> 00:29:08,205 Speaker 1: do with mental health and mental ill and I just 474 00:29:08,285 --> 00:29:11,085 Speaker 1: think his family saw signs for a while, for a 475 00:29:11,125 --> 00:29:13,805 Speaker 1: couple of months, and maybe just didn't react in time. 476 00:29:13,885 --> 00:29:17,485 Speaker 1: This is what happened. He grew up in Florida and 477 00:29:17,525 --> 00:29:20,285 Speaker 1: Palm Beach Gardens and his parents got divorced when he 478 00:29:20,325 --> 00:29:23,445 Speaker 1: was fourteen. But he had a pretty good upbringing. According 479 00:29:23,445 --> 00:29:25,805 Speaker 1: to his family, they were like, you know, middle class, 480 00:29:26,005 --> 00:29:28,525 Speaker 1: middle to upper class kind of. He had good grades. 481 00:29:28,605 --> 00:29:31,205 Speaker 1: He wanted to be a doctor. His grandfather was a doctor, 482 00:29:31,605 --> 00:29:35,965 Speaker 1: and he was unduring his sophomore year at FSU. He 483 00:29:36,005 --> 00:29:38,685 Speaker 1: was in a fraternity. His friends mentioned that he was 484 00:29:38,805 --> 00:29:41,125 Speaker 1: kind of we're kind of off, like maybe he lacked 485 00:29:41,165 --> 00:29:44,685 Speaker 1: some social skills, but for the most part, everything seemed normal. 486 00:29:44,925 --> 00:29:49,645 Speaker 1: So he was home for the summer when the incident happened, 487 00:29:50,165 --> 00:29:53,565 Speaker 1: and all of that year, the year twenty sixteen, he 488 00:29:53,605 --> 00:29:57,325 Speaker 1: was just acting a little bit strange. So authorities were 489 00:29:57,365 --> 00:30:00,405 Speaker 1: able to do a deep dive into his Internet history 490 00:30:00,405 --> 00:30:04,605 Speaker 1: and his laptop and his phone, and what they found 491 00:30:04,685 --> 00:30:08,645 Speaker 1: was disturbing. He was writing things that just seemed kind 492 00:30:08,645 --> 00:30:11,845 Speaker 1: of delusional, kind of like strange. He had a YouTube 493 00:30:11,925 --> 00:30:15,165 Speaker 1: channel where he would post exercise tips. It seems that 494 00:30:15,165 --> 00:30:19,685 Speaker 1: he was really into bodybuilding, covers of songs, original rap songs, 495 00:30:20,045 --> 00:30:23,205 Speaker 1: and rants. Is that weird? I feel like I've posted 496 00:30:24,885 --> 00:30:28,765 Speaker 1: before lovingly, Gavy, I don't know. I will say I 497 00:30:28,765 --> 00:30:31,485 Speaker 1: think all of us struggle with mental illness, so you know, 498 00:30:31,565 --> 00:30:33,645 Speaker 1: i'd be talking to Instagram stories as if I have, 499 00:30:33,925 --> 00:30:37,245 Speaker 1: you know, like an audience, and I don't, so I 500 00:30:37,285 --> 00:30:39,725 Speaker 1: think we all have our own thing. Taylor, I don't know. 501 00:30:39,765 --> 00:30:43,125 Speaker 1: I guess you'd be talking to Gus. Oh yeah, I know, 502 00:30:43,245 --> 00:30:47,005 Speaker 1: I know she does actually, but yeah, it's he like 503 00:30:47,165 --> 00:30:49,565 Speaker 1: is quoted in some of the videos saying things like 504 00:30:49,605 --> 00:30:52,405 Speaker 1: I've got a psycho side and a normal side, or 505 00:30:52,525 --> 00:30:56,365 Speaker 1: like he would freestyle rap and he would mention stabbing 506 00:30:56,365 --> 00:31:00,405 Speaker 1: people in his lyrics. Also good to note he has 507 00:31:00,485 --> 00:31:03,845 Speaker 1: started that YouTube account five months prior to the killings, 508 00:31:04,205 --> 00:31:07,165 Speaker 1: and he posted most of the videos just a month 509 00:31:07,205 --> 00:31:11,445 Speaker 1: before he stormed out of the restaurant and attacked the couple. 510 00:31:12,045 --> 00:31:17,605 Speaker 1: So things were snowballing. It seems like beings we're snowballing precisely. Also, 511 00:31:18,085 --> 00:31:20,525 Speaker 1: one of his because you could listen. You can watch 512 00:31:20,525 --> 00:31:22,485 Speaker 1: these videos and you can listen to them. It's really interesting. 513 00:31:22,605 --> 00:31:26,005 Speaker 1: And one of his rap songs, the cover is like 514 00:31:26,405 --> 00:31:28,925 Speaker 1: of like evil SpongeBob and it's like one of those 515 00:31:28,965 --> 00:31:32,725 Speaker 1: like extremely edited memes, and I was just like, oh 516 00:31:32,765 --> 00:31:35,765 Speaker 1: my gosh, he's just like us. I'll be sending SpongeBob 517 00:31:35,805 --> 00:31:40,685 Speaker 1: memes anyway. Also something to note is that his Internet 518 00:31:40,725 --> 00:31:44,645 Speaker 1: search history was kind of strange too. He was googling 519 00:31:44,685 --> 00:31:48,525 Speaker 1: things like how to know if you're going crazy, obsessive thoughts, 520 00:31:48,725 --> 00:31:50,965 Speaker 1: how to sell my soul to the devil, how to 521 00:31:51,005 --> 00:31:54,725 Speaker 1: be happier or more likable, characteristics of a great person. 522 00:31:55,445 --> 00:31:59,605 Speaker 1: In one essay in twenty fourteen, he wrote, what I 523 00:31:59,725 --> 00:32:03,365 Speaker 1: want to be is to become more confident and social. 524 00:32:04,045 --> 00:32:06,605 Speaker 1: He also said I also to be more well known, 525 00:32:06,685 --> 00:32:09,765 Speaker 1: because right now I feel as though I am unknown. 526 00:32:10,245 --> 00:32:12,925 Speaker 1: In another essay, he was quoted saying that he didn't 527 00:32:13,005 --> 00:32:14,805 Speaker 1: want to be worshiped, but he felt like it was 528 00:32:14,805 --> 00:32:18,205 Speaker 1: going to happen regardless, which, okay, He felt like he 529 00:32:18,285 --> 00:32:22,045 Speaker 1: was destined to be a leader of some sort. Yeah, 530 00:32:22,085 --> 00:32:24,965 Speaker 1: I think so. I think that sometimes when you and 531 00:32:25,045 --> 00:32:27,405 Speaker 1: I'll get more into it, but sometimes when you experience 532 00:32:27,565 --> 00:32:30,605 Speaker 1: stuff like mania or manic episodes, you feel like you're 533 00:32:30,605 --> 00:32:32,445 Speaker 1: on top of the world. You feel like and you 534 00:32:32,485 --> 00:32:35,205 Speaker 1: have delusions of grandeur at times, and it seems like 535 00:32:35,245 --> 00:32:38,605 Speaker 1: maybe he was suffering from something severe that made him 536 00:32:38,605 --> 00:32:42,845 Speaker 1: feel this way. Yeah, this also feels really similar to 537 00:32:43,045 --> 00:32:47,325 Speaker 1: our this one true crime series that I worked on 538 00:32:47,365 --> 00:32:49,325 Speaker 1: about someone, I mean, someone in a similar case where 539 00:32:49,325 --> 00:32:52,725 Speaker 1: it's kind of like you have these symptoms coming on 540 00:32:52,845 --> 00:32:55,485 Speaker 1: that are really similar to like, you know, a variety 541 00:32:55,525 --> 00:32:57,685 Speaker 1: of different mental illnesses, but then it's like really hard 542 00:32:57,725 --> 00:33:01,005 Speaker 1: to like go back in time and actually piece together 543 00:33:01,045 --> 00:33:03,645 Speaker 1: what that mental illness is because it's like really prescriptive, 544 00:33:03,725 --> 00:33:07,125 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's very complicated, it is. And also, like 545 00:33:07,165 --> 00:33:10,885 Speaker 1: I think of how hard it is to note these 546 00:33:10,925 --> 00:33:13,805 Speaker 1: things in people because you don't really it's hard to 547 00:33:13,805 --> 00:33:17,165 Speaker 1: tell whether someone's being manic or whether they're just excited. 548 00:33:17,285 --> 00:33:19,525 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to tell. And sometimes people go 549 00:33:19,605 --> 00:33:21,565 Speaker 1: through phases. You know, you don't know if maybe his 550 00:33:21,645 --> 00:33:23,765 Speaker 1: family they were just thinking, Oh, he's just kind of 551 00:33:23,805 --> 00:33:25,565 Speaker 1: going through a phase, or like, oh, he's just posting 552 00:33:25,605 --> 00:33:28,245 Speaker 1: these things, like you know, for fun or as a 553 00:33:28,245 --> 00:33:31,445 Speaker 1: way of creative expression, like I feel like they just 554 00:33:31,485 --> 00:33:34,685 Speaker 1: did not see it coming, which is terrifying, you know, 555 00:33:34,765 --> 00:33:38,365 Speaker 1: to look back on so on the day of the killings. Also, 556 00:33:38,445 --> 00:33:41,725 Speaker 1: it's important to note it seems like Austin's delusions were 557 00:33:41,765 --> 00:33:45,485 Speaker 1: pivoting from grandeur and feeling like a superhero too. He 558 00:33:45,525 --> 00:33:49,445 Speaker 1: was googling characteristics of a centaur, and his sister actually 559 00:33:49,485 --> 00:33:51,485 Speaker 1: mentioned that he had told her that he believed he 560 00:33:51,525 --> 00:33:54,565 Speaker 1: had powers and that he also believed he was half animal. 561 00:33:55,005 --> 00:33:58,725 Speaker 1: He had also looked up dog spirits and it seemed 562 00:33:58,765 --> 00:34:00,805 Speaker 1: like he believed he was half dog and he was 563 00:34:00,885 --> 00:34:04,965 Speaker 1: protected by dog spirits around him. His dad also there 564 00:34:05,045 --> 00:34:07,885 Speaker 1: was a Doctor Phil episode and in that episode, his 565 00:34:07,965 --> 00:34:11,525 Speaker 1: dad mentioned that their family does have a history of schizophrenia, 566 00:34:11,565 --> 00:34:14,325 Speaker 1: which could be what had happened to Austin. So they 567 00:34:14,365 --> 00:34:17,365 Speaker 1: take him to a hospital because he's unconscious. That like, 568 00:34:17,565 --> 00:34:20,005 Speaker 1: they had to pull him away by sheer force and 569 00:34:20,085 --> 00:34:23,165 Speaker 1: he was not, you know, backing off of this guy's face. 570 00:34:23,725 --> 00:34:26,485 Speaker 1: They obviously arrest him. There was a rumor that went 571 00:34:26,485 --> 00:34:29,565 Speaker 1: around that he had eaten bath salts or was on drugs, 572 00:34:29,805 --> 00:34:32,965 Speaker 1: but his toxicology report came back negative except for the 573 00:34:33,005 --> 00:34:34,685 Speaker 1: mets that they gave him. The hospital, so it was 574 00:34:34,765 --> 00:34:38,565 Speaker 1: not drug use. So he spends weeks in the hospital 575 00:34:38,885 --> 00:34:42,285 Speaker 1: just recovering, and then eventually goes to jail to await 576 00:34:42,325 --> 00:34:45,285 Speaker 1: his trial. He was charged with two counts of first 577 00:34:45,325 --> 00:34:48,045 Speaker 1: degree murder and one account of attempted murder for stabbing 578 00:34:48,085 --> 00:34:51,325 Speaker 1: the neighbor when the neighbor tried to save John and Michelle. 579 00:34:51,925 --> 00:34:57,485 Speaker 1: So I did find this kind of crazy. While he's 580 00:34:57,485 --> 00:35:00,525 Speaker 1: in jail, Peta actually found out about his case and 581 00:35:00,565 --> 00:35:03,205 Speaker 1: they sent him a request to the Sheriff's office asking 582 00:35:03,205 --> 00:35:05,325 Speaker 1: that he'd be put on a vegan diet while he 583 00:35:05,605 --> 00:35:12,325 Speaker 1: in jail, which I just found fun. Back off, dudes, 584 00:35:13,365 --> 00:35:15,605 Speaker 1: he does like, oh, I know what will cure him, 585 00:35:15,685 --> 00:35:18,605 Speaker 1: a vegan diet, and listen, I love Peta, but I 586 00:35:18,605 --> 00:35:22,205 Speaker 1: don't think a vegan diet is what will help this person. Yeah, 587 00:35:22,285 --> 00:35:24,365 Speaker 1: it's like a lot more complex than Like the reason 588 00:35:24,365 --> 00:35:26,685 Speaker 1: they wanted he wanted to eat a human's face is 589 00:35:26,725 --> 00:35:31,285 Speaker 1: because he hadn't embraced veganism yet. There's just like cannibalism. 590 00:35:31,365 --> 00:35:33,365 Speaker 1: Let me pull up real quick. It's because you eat 591 00:35:33,405 --> 00:35:38,125 Speaker 1: meat anyway. So his attorneys decide to use the insanity 592 00:35:38,165 --> 00:35:40,605 Speaker 1: plea in his case, and so obviously he had to 593 00:35:40,605 --> 00:35:44,885 Speaker 1: go through a lot of psychological evaluations while awaiting his trial. 594 00:35:45,325 --> 00:35:48,565 Speaker 1: Now I went through his most recent one, which was 595 00:35:48,605 --> 00:35:53,685 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, and the psychiatrist did deem him legally 596 00:35:53,845 --> 00:35:58,365 Speaker 1: insane when he attacked the couple. The psychiatrist also said 597 00:35:58,445 --> 00:36:04,045 Speaker 1: that Austin experienced in a cute psychotic episode. So apparently 598 00:36:04,165 --> 00:36:06,645 Speaker 1: from all of his interviews the time spent with Austin, 599 00:36:06,685 --> 00:36:09,125 Speaker 1: and this isn't twenty nineteen now that this was done, 600 00:36:09,245 --> 00:36:13,365 Speaker 1: remember the actual act happen in twenty sixteen. Austin mentions 601 00:36:13,445 --> 00:36:16,325 Speaker 1: that he was seeing things like an all black figure 602 00:36:16,325 --> 00:36:19,645 Speaker 1: with a white face, and Austin also mentions that when 603 00:36:19,645 --> 00:36:22,365 Speaker 1: he attacked Michelle, it was like she had a darkness 604 00:36:22,565 --> 00:36:26,285 Speaker 1: all over that he had to attack. Basically, he also 605 00:36:26,325 --> 00:36:29,925 Speaker 1: admitted to feeling like he had powers, and again he 606 00:36:30,085 --> 00:36:32,125 Speaker 1: said himself that he felt like he was half dog 607 00:36:32,205 --> 00:36:35,645 Speaker 1: and half man. In the report, he also states that 608 00:36:35,725 --> 00:36:38,845 Speaker 1: he felt kind of isolated growing up and not accepted. 609 00:36:38,965 --> 00:36:41,005 Speaker 1: It seemed like he had really low confidence and he 610 00:36:41,085 --> 00:36:44,605 Speaker 1: was never happy with himself. And this is a really 611 00:36:44,925 --> 00:36:49,045 Speaker 1: interesting tidbit of information that I feel it could be 612 00:36:49,085 --> 00:36:53,205 Speaker 1: connected to his psychotic episode. He started using a lot 613 00:36:53,245 --> 00:36:56,565 Speaker 1: of drugs in twenty sixteen, like from weed to meth, 614 00:36:56,645 --> 00:36:59,805 Speaker 1: to cocaine to adderall. Here's what's interesting about this. So 615 00:36:59,845 --> 00:37:02,285 Speaker 1: he started all of these drugs, which obviously can do 616 00:37:02,325 --> 00:37:05,925 Speaker 1: a lot to your system, especially if you might have, 617 00:37:06,045 --> 00:37:09,245 Speaker 1: you know, mental illness in your family. But then he 618 00:37:09,405 --> 00:37:13,365 Speaker 1: suddenly quit in August, which, as we know, the attacks 619 00:37:13,365 --> 00:37:16,085 Speaker 1: happened in August. He sent his mom a text telling 620 00:37:16,085 --> 00:37:18,445 Speaker 1: her that he quit every drug because they made him 621 00:37:18,525 --> 00:37:21,765 Speaker 1: vulnerable to evil. He sent her that text a couple 622 00:37:21,765 --> 00:37:25,285 Speaker 1: of days before the attack happened. It seemed like he 623 00:37:25,325 --> 00:37:29,685 Speaker 1: got super religious and reported feeling like Jesus just invincible, 624 00:37:29,725 --> 00:37:32,525 Speaker 1: and he like he was fighting dark forces. And I 625 00:37:32,605 --> 00:37:37,445 Speaker 1: can't help but wonder if his immediate break from drugs 626 00:37:37,605 --> 00:37:41,805 Speaker 1: could have spurred on a psychotic episode question Mark, And 627 00:37:42,285 --> 00:37:44,245 Speaker 1: you know we're not again, we're not doctors. We don't 628 00:37:44,285 --> 00:37:48,005 Speaker 1: know this. I just cannot imagine his system being so 629 00:37:48,085 --> 00:37:50,525 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with all of you know, these chemicals and then 630 00:37:50,565 --> 00:37:56,805 Speaker 1: suddenly stopping could have caused like the withdrawal problems. Yeah, well, 631 00:37:56,805 --> 00:37:59,605 Speaker 1: regardless of what directly caused, it seems like he was 632 00:37:59,685 --> 00:38:05,445 Speaker 1: going through a lot. Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, he was experiencing 633 00:38:05,525 --> 00:38:08,325 Speaker 1: obviously extreme paranoia. He said that he would hear things, 634 00:38:08,725 --> 00:38:11,085 Speaker 1: he couldn't sleep at night, like it was it was bad. 635 00:38:11,485 --> 00:38:16,045 Speaker 1: And when doctor Phil interviewed him, he mentions having no 636 00:38:16,365 --> 00:38:19,765 Speaker 1: recollection of the attack. And there's like a video of 637 00:38:19,845 --> 00:38:22,565 Speaker 1: him in jail during this interview and he's just like 638 00:38:22,685 --> 00:38:25,445 Speaker 1: sobbing because he can't believe what he did. You know, 639 00:38:25,605 --> 00:38:29,205 Speaker 1: that's really to not even be able to remember that 640 00:38:29,205 --> 00:38:33,805 Speaker 1: that's something that you did. Absolutely so um. Yeah, the 641 00:38:33,845 --> 00:38:37,485 Speaker 1: psychiatrist recommended that if they if he is found to 642 00:38:37,485 --> 00:38:39,645 Speaker 1: be insane according to the court, that they transport him 643 00:38:39,645 --> 00:38:42,205 Speaker 1: to a mental hospital. Against It's like, whether he wants 644 00:38:42,245 --> 00:38:44,845 Speaker 1: to or not, that's well, that's where he'll be because 645 00:38:44,925 --> 00:38:48,525 Speaker 1: he is a danger to himself and to those around him. Essentially. 646 00:38:48,885 --> 00:38:51,925 Speaker 1: He had a trial in twenty twenty. Finally it was 647 00:38:51,965 --> 00:38:55,125 Speaker 1: set for May, but I think it might have been 648 00:38:55,125 --> 00:38:58,405 Speaker 1: moved because of COVID. So I'm not sure what his 649 00:38:58,445 --> 00:39:02,605 Speaker 1: status is other than yes, he is still in jail obviously, 650 00:39:02,805 --> 00:39:05,365 Speaker 1: and either he'll go to jail if he's not deemed 651 00:39:05,725 --> 00:39:08,245 Speaker 1: insane according to the court, or he will go to 652 00:39:08,285 --> 00:39:11,885 Speaker 1: a mental hospital. Yeah. It's interesting because I've heard about 653 00:39:11,885 --> 00:39:15,485 Speaker 1: this story mentioned from time to time is just like 654 00:39:15,525 --> 00:39:20,365 Speaker 1: a haha, this cannibal in Florida haha. But yep, as usual, 655 00:39:20,405 --> 00:39:22,485 Speaker 1: once you get into the nuances into it, you're like, 656 00:39:22,525 --> 00:39:28,285 Speaker 1: oh shit, it is a really sad, hard, tragic story. 657 00:39:28,485 --> 00:39:33,405 Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously there's no excuse for what he did, 658 00:39:33,565 --> 00:39:36,565 Speaker 1: but also you have to address the fact that this 659 00:39:36,725 --> 00:39:43,125 Speaker 1: was mental illness, like severe mental illness. Yeah, oh my gosh, 660 00:39:43,245 --> 00:39:47,525 Speaker 1: that was heavy. It was heavy. And after the break 661 00:39:47,605 --> 00:39:52,925 Speaker 1: we'll be a little less heavy, god willing. And if 662 00:39:52,965 --> 00:39:59,325 Speaker 1: the creek don't rise, all right, we'll be right back. Okay, 663 00:39:59,365 --> 00:40:02,765 Speaker 1: we're back. Here's another thing. We're going to talk about, 664 00:40:02,845 --> 00:40:08,165 Speaker 1: another hoax, but related to cannibalism, which I now feel 665 00:40:08,205 --> 00:40:12,765 Speaker 1: like is a vaguely inappropriate tangent based on the sad 666 00:40:12,845 --> 00:40:16,445 Speaker 1: story about mental health that had happened, but some cannibalism 667 00:40:16,485 --> 00:40:19,685 Speaker 1: did happen, So we're going to talk a little bit 668 00:40:19,725 --> 00:40:25,645 Speaker 1: about cannibalism. So I love some cannibalism stories. But okay, 669 00:40:25,725 --> 00:40:28,965 Speaker 1: it's also we're doing some cross promotion right now, so 670 00:40:28,965 --> 00:40:32,245 Speaker 1: so sorry, but our company I just put out a 671 00:40:32,245 --> 00:40:36,245 Speaker 1: podcast called a Stray and yeah, it's pretty good. I 672 00:40:36,245 --> 00:40:40,245 Speaker 1: worked on it it's so good all for me for 673 00:40:40,325 --> 00:40:44,965 Speaker 1: a sentence saying something kind of stupid. But as the producer, 674 00:40:45,005 --> 00:40:47,805 Speaker 1: I feel like that's fine, that's my role. And the 675 00:40:47,845 --> 00:40:49,885 Speaker 1: reason I bring it up is because when we are 676 00:40:49,885 --> 00:40:53,045 Speaker 1: doing the podcast, we met this guy who Caroline Slaughter, 677 00:40:53,165 --> 00:40:56,205 Speaker 1: the host, interviewed a few times and his name's Michael 678 00:40:56,245 --> 00:41:02,165 Speaker 1: John and his hobby is cannibal hunting. Such a hobby. Yeah, 679 00:41:02,285 --> 00:41:05,565 Speaker 1: it's his hobby. That's something that he does and and 680 00:41:05,925 --> 00:41:10,725 Speaker 1: specifically he's done in reference to going to India and 681 00:41:10,805 --> 00:41:14,845 Speaker 1: having encounters with this type of sadu, which is a 682 00:41:14,845 --> 00:41:18,885 Speaker 1: holy man and Hinduism. They're called the Agory. It's a 683 00:41:19,045 --> 00:41:22,165 Speaker 1: very very small sect of people and they actually do 684 00:41:22,765 --> 00:41:27,725 Speaker 1: eat deceased bodies, so dead corpses. They find them in 685 00:41:27,765 --> 00:41:30,845 Speaker 1: the river Ganges, which is uh considered a holy river. 686 00:41:31,165 --> 00:41:34,485 Speaker 1: I think it's like three thousand bodies are thrown into 687 00:41:34,485 --> 00:41:37,645 Speaker 1: the Ganges every year and they'll like fish out some 688 00:41:37,685 --> 00:41:40,325 Speaker 1: of the bodies. Yeah, and they'll like eat parts of them. 689 00:41:41,445 --> 00:41:47,165 Speaker 1: And why are they there, the agori or the bodiesies, Well, 690 00:41:47,405 --> 00:41:51,765 Speaker 1: because the river is considered holy. Um, it is thought 691 00:41:51,845 --> 00:41:54,405 Speaker 1: that it kind of if you toss a body into 692 00:41:54,445 --> 00:41:57,765 Speaker 1: the river. It will like purify it, it will make you. 693 00:41:58,685 --> 00:42:01,285 Speaker 1: I forget exactly what it's called, but it is something 694 00:42:01,325 --> 00:42:03,765 Speaker 1: about purification of the spirit. If you throw a dead 695 00:42:03,805 --> 00:42:05,805 Speaker 1: body in there, it is now apparently a eagle to 696 00:42:05,845 --> 00:42:09,285 Speaker 1: throw bodies in it, but lots of people still do it, obviously, 697 00:42:09,325 --> 00:42:13,325 Speaker 1: but ironically, you would then potentially get eaten, yes, by 698 00:42:13,365 --> 00:42:16,245 Speaker 1: an agory probably. I mean I really doubt they eat 699 00:42:16,245 --> 00:42:19,485 Speaker 1: three thousand bodies a year, but they do eat some bodies, 700 00:42:20,525 --> 00:42:24,805 Speaker 1: some bodies a year. And there's some like pretty visceral 701 00:42:24,805 --> 00:42:27,005 Speaker 1: descriptions in the podcast that you can, you know, listen 702 00:42:27,045 --> 00:42:30,645 Speaker 1: to it to hear them. But there's like this one where, um, 703 00:42:31,085 --> 00:42:34,285 Speaker 1: so Michael yawned the cannibal Hunter, he saw an agry 704 00:42:34,405 --> 00:42:37,245 Speaker 1: actually eat a man one time, and then he also 705 00:42:37,645 --> 00:42:41,645 Speaker 1: described this. He described this also this really haunting image 706 00:42:41,925 --> 00:42:46,525 Speaker 1: which was an a gory who used a dead dog 707 00:42:46,605 --> 00:42:52,365 Speaker 1: carcass as a pillow for months. And the reason they 708 00:42:52,445 --> 00:42:54,805 Speaker 1: do this um the way that Michael describes it in 709 00:42:54,845 --> 00:42:59,285 Speaker 1: the podcast. He says that they believe God created everything right, 710 00:42:59,605 --> 00:43:03,525 Speaker 1: and the God or the gods are perfect. Therefore everything 711 00:43:03,605 --> 00:43:05,845 Speaker 1: is perfect in the world. Therefore, if you're discusted by 712 00:43:05,885 --> 00:43:08,725 Speaker 1: anything you're disgusted by God, and you should seek to 713 00:43:08,725 --> 00:43:13,285 Speaker 1: overcome everything that disgusted. You just seek to overcome the 714 00:43:13,325 --> 00:43:15,845 Speaker 1: emotion of disgust. So basically, it's just like doing all 715 00:43:15,885 --> 00:43:19,405 Speaker 1: the most taboo shit is really in service of, you know, 716 00:43:19,525 --> 00:43:22,805 Speaker 1: the gods, because the God's made the world perfect. So 717 00:43:23,005 --> 00:43:25,805 Speaker 1: if you're disgusted, you're you're a bad person. I kind 718 00:43:25,805 --> 00:43:28,405 Speaker 1: of hear that like when eating ass for the first time, 719 00:43:29,765 --> 00:43:35,165 Speaker 1: but I feel like healthy boundaries custom mark. Yeah, and 720 00:43:35,285 --> 00:43:38,245 Speaker 1: like you know, there's a lot of other complicated things 721 00:43:38,285 --> 00:43:40,405 Speaker 1: wrapped up in like what the agory believe, but they 722 00:43:40,485 --> 00:43:44,525 Speaker 1: do these are cannibals who be existent for real. But 723 00:43:45,125 --> 00:43:48,005 Speaker 1: while we were doing research for a stray, Michael at 724 00:43:48,005 --> 00:43:52,405 Speaker 1: one point sent us this website of a secret cannibalistic 725 00:43:52,725 --> 00:43:57,245 Speaker 1: society in Los Angeles. It would be la, oh, it's 726 00:43:57,285 --> 00:44:02,005 Speaker 1: the most organic thing to eat. It's yaman, just eat yourself, guys. 727 00:44:03,045 --> 00:44:06,325 Speaker 1: And it's kind of funny because they claim members like 728 00:44:06,565 --> 00:44:10,685 Speaker 1: Katie Perry, because Chelsea Clinton, Anderson Cooper and Meryl Streep 729 00:44:10,685 --> 00:44:13,925 Speaker 1: are all part of this cannibalistic society. But it was 730 00:44:14,045 --> 00:44:17,605 Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty easy to prove that this all 731 00:44:17,765 --> 00:44:19,805 Speaker 1: was made up it's all fake, Like you know, the 732 00:44:19,925 --> 00:44:21,765 Speaker 1: It was funny because they have like a staff page 733 00:44:21,805 --> 00:44:23,885 Speaker 1: and it's really easy to find. The pictures of the 734 00:44:23,885 --> 00:44:27,285 Speaker 1: staff people are just like Getty images. It's also like 735 00:44:27,405 --> 00:44:30,925 Speaker 1: the website's IP number traces back to this phone number 736 00:44:30,925 --> 00:44:33,605 Speaker 1: that's known for scams. So it's not real. This is 737 00:44:33,645 --> 00:44:36,765 Speaker 1: all a hoax. But for a minute there, I was 738 00:44:36,845 --> 00:44:40,445 Speaker 1: really convinced it was a real thing, because I was like, La, 739 00:44:40,525 --> 00:44:43,645 Speaker 1: these fancy people in lay O, they're like eating people, Yavi, 740 00:44:43,805 --> 00:44:47,125 Speaker 1: You're just hoax breaking. I love it. Yeah, I mean 741 00:44:47,365 --> 00:44:50,845 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to. So basically like the their 742 00:44:50,925 --> 00:44:55,565 Speaker 1: mission statement because it's basically like a dining experience, a 743 00:44:55,605 --> 00:44:59,525 Speaker 1: cannibal club specializing in the preparation of human meat. The 744 00:44:59,605 --> 00:45:02,765 Speaker 1: Cannibal Club brings the cutting edge of experimental cuisine to 745 00:45:02,805 --> 00:45:08,605 Speaker 1: the refined palettes of Las Cultural, which is hilarious. La. 746 00:45:09,045 --> 00:45:11,805 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm just like, you need to go be on 747 00:45:11,845 --> 00:45:14,685 Speaker 1: your own. I mean it says something about La, where 748 00:45:14,725 --> 00:45:16,565 Speaker 1: like for a second, I was like, oh, I mean 749 00:45:17,125 --> 00:45:22,245 Speaker 1: probably there's this tracks. This makes sense, this tracks. But yeah, 750 00:45:22,285 --> 00:45:24,885 Speaker 1: so their menu, you know, they said that they are 751 00:45:24,885 --> 00:45:28,285 Speaker 1: collaborating with visiting cooks from around the world because you know, 752 00:45:28,325 --> 00:45:32,125 Speaker 1: there's just so many cooks out like I'm coming for 753 00:45:32,205 --> 00:45:35,725 Speaker 1: that to cook for that, and the meat we service 754 00:45:35,765 --> 00:45:40,165 Speaker 1: selected from the young and healthy. Oh okay, I remember 755 00:45:40,205 --> 00:45:42,685 Speaker 1: this conspiracy though. I remember this conspiracy because my friend 756 00:45:42,685 --> 00:45:47,645 Speaker 1: told me about it. She's like, Hillary Clinton eats eats babies. Like, well, 757 00:45:47,685 --> 00:45:51,525 Speaker 1: it's not Hillary, it's her daughter, Okay, Well whatever my 758 00:45:51,605 --> 00:45:53,685 Speaker 1: point is, though, this was like a big conspiracy, and 759 00:45:53,685 --> 00:45:55,165 Speaker 1: I just remember kind of looking at my friends and 760 00:45:55,285 --> 00:45:59,845 Speaker 1: being like, what I mean, it's definitely like qan on 761 00:45:59,925 --> 00:46:04,845 Speaker 1: adjacent but each dish they say it's it's in an 762 00:46:04,885 --> 00:46:08,365 Speaker 1: homage to the dead who are reborn into the bodies 763 00:46:08,405 --> 00:46:11,925 Speaker 1: of their customers. Well, that would be worse if you'd 764 00:46:12,125 --> 00:46:14,205 Speaker 1: ate in a live body, though, like if it came 765 00:46:14,245 --> 00:46:16,845 Speaker 1: back a live I'm not a fan. Absolutely, well what 766 00:46:16,925 --> 00:46:18,805 Speaker 1: I And again, another thing about LA is what I 767 00:46:18,845 --> 00:46:21,325 Speaker 1: will say that it's so hard to divide like hoax 768 00:46:21,365 --> 00:46:24,005 Speaker 1: from real because that's a hoax, but it is a 769 00:46:24,045 --> 00:46:28,165 Speaker 1: real thing to take your own blood and then put 770 00:46:28,205 --> 00:46:32,245 Speaker 1: it in a oh, a vial. I know exactly where 771 00:46:32,245 --> 00:46:34,885 Speaker 1: you're going take your own blood and put it in 772 00:46:34,925 --> 00:46:37,885 Speaker 1: a vial and then have it separated and then inject 773 00:46:37,965 --> 00:46:40,365 Speaker 1: the blood back inside of you because apparently makes you 774 00:46:40,405 --> 00:46:43,525 Speaker 1: look younger. Like literally, that's the thing that they do. 775 00:46:43,685 --> 00:46:45,445 Speaker 1: And it's like you hear that, You're like, no, that's 776 00:46:45,485 --> 00:46:46,685 Speaker 1: that's not a thing they do in la. They do 777 00:46:46,765 --> 00:46:48,405 Speaker 1: it all the time. I've been wanting to do it. 778 00:46:48,405 --> 00:46:50,645 Speaker 1: It's called a vampire face. I'm not kidding. But here's 779 00:46:50,685 --> 00:46:53,485 Speaker 1: the other suspicious thing. It's like somebody went out of 780 00:46:53,485 --> 00:46:56,485 Speaker 1: their way to like create this hoax, create this like 781 00:46:56,565 --> 00:46:59,525 Speaker 1: weird menu, and this whole theory that it was a thing. Yeah, 782 00:46:59,605 --> 00:47:03,245 Speaker 1: some people have free time, you know. That's the problem. 783 00:47:03,325 --> 00:47:05,845 Speaker 1: You as a pretty sure to understand that, Taylor. That's 784 00:47:05,885 --> 00:47:09,485 Speaker 1: the problem with the industrial revolution is that it gave 785 00:47:09,685 --> 00:47:14,725 Speaker 1: laborers free time. So then you make a cannibal, a 786 00:47:14,805 --> 00:47:20,645 Speaker 1: fake cannibal restaurant website out as anti union this podcast everyone, 787 00:47:21,685 --> 00:47:23,685 Speaker 1: I'm against the union. That's you know, I think we 788 00:47:23,685 --> 00:47:28,805 Speaker 1: should just go back to fourteen hour days. Govey's like 789 00:47:28,885 --> 00:47:31,485 Speaker 1: also a children's labor Like children should have never gotten 790 00:47:31,565 --> 00:47:35,285 Speaker 1: rights to begin. Okay, here's this is a good point though, 791 00:47:35,325 --> 00:47:38,725 Speaker 1: Like if we had never gotten rid of the every 792 00:47:38,845 --> 00:47:41,365 Speaker 1: hour of the day work day, then we wouldn't have 793 00:47:41,525 --> 00:47:45,965 Speaker 1: quan on think about that, about that conspiracy. Gaffy's like, 794 00:47:45,965 --> 00:47:48,245 Speaker 1: I'm coming up with the conspiracies all on my own. 795 00:47:49,245 --> 00:47:52,085 Speaker 1: Conspiracy people's sound though, they'll literally be like, hey, so 796 00:47:52,165 --> 00:47:54,845 Speaker 1: you know Kim Kardashian and then like somehow trace it 797 00:47:54,845 --> 00:47:58,005 Speaker 1: all back to and that's like why they're child trafficking 798 00:47:58,245 --> 00:48:06,605 Speaker 1: in like Wayfair online. Yeah, like Wayfair online sex traffickers. 799 00:48:06,645 --> 00:48:10,485 Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, but here are some on this 800 00:48:10,605 --> 00:48:14,605 Speaker 1: fake menu. I mean they say a normal pina pasta 801 00:48:14,685 --> 00:48:17,885 Speaker 1: with meat sauce, but you know, special meat. They also 802 00:48:17,925 --> 00:48:22,165 Speaker 1: have a placenta lasagna. Women do eat their own placenta, 803 00:48:22,325 --> 00:48:25,085 Speaker 1: Yeah they do, so I guess that is cannibalism, but 804 00:48:25,485 --> 00:48:27,965 Speaker 1: don't do it as a surprise. Okay, Now that I'm 805 00:48:27,965 --> 00:48:30,205 Speaker 1: looking at the menu, because it's panapasta with meat sauce, 806 00:48:30,245 --> 00:48:34,565 Speaker 1: sirloin steak, liver and mushroom, Parogi's placenta lasagna, and Missus 807 00:48:34,685 --> 00:48:38,405 Speaker 1: Lovett's meat pies. Now that I'm looking at this, I 808 00:48:38,445 --> 00:48:40,925 Speaker 1: think the way you could disprove this conspiracy theory, this 809 00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:46,125 Speaker 1: hoax is that that is too many carbs for LA's elite. 810 00:48:46,245 --> 00:48:51,805 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where's the poke bowls? Exactly I mean that's 811 00:48:51,965 --> 00:48:54,365 Speaker 1: I think that is the most Now looking at this, 812 00:48:54,525 --> 00:48:58,205 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this this is fake because they want 813 00:48:58,205 --> 00:49:01,765 Speaker 1: to be having any of that bread maybe the sirloin steak, 814 00:49:02,045 --> 00:49:06,565 Speaker 1: but Perry would not have like a meat pie. She 815 00:49:06,605 --> 00:49:10,565 Speaker 1: wouldn't like. I mean, they're also frail and skinny. There. 816 00:49:10,605 --> 00:49:13,805 Speaker 1: You can't have any cars. You can't do that. That's crazy. 817 00:49:14,365 --> 00:49:19,085 Speaker 1: Oh wow, another hoax disproven by Gabby, like the one 818 00:49:19,125 --> 00:49:25,285 Speaker 1: that was already disproved. I disproved it disprovement. Yeah, good job, Gabby, 819 00:49:25,325 --> 00:49:28,845 Speaker 1: thank you. Wow, I feel really smart. Okay, so this 820 00:49:28,885 --> 00:49:31,605 Speaker 1: is even another Gabby too much today, I'm sorry we 821 00:49:31,685 --> 00:49:37,285 Speaker 1: did Okay, So guys, thanks for listening. I hope you 822 00:49:37,405 --> 00:49:43,285 Speaker 1: enjoyed the show. Nika Taylor, any last closing thoughts mmmmm no, mmm, 823 00:49:43,605 --> 00:49:49,205 Speaker 1: just thinking about that placenta placenta lasagna maybe like a 824 00:49:49,325 --> 00:49:54,925 Speaker 1: placenta like grain bowl. That feels more accurate, This feels 825 00:49:54,965 --> 00:49:57,485 Speaker 1: more real. So those are my notes for this website 826 00:49:57,565 --> 00:50:05,045 Speaker 1: avocado toast with a gall bladder. So anyway, thanks for 827 00:50:05,165 --> 00:50:10,005 Speaker 1: listening into cadaver Gals and you'll hear from us next week. 828 00:50:19,365 --> 00:50:27,845 Speaker 1: The Dargal cadaver Gals is a podcast produced by School 829 00:50:27,845 --> 00:50:33,765 Speaker 1: of Humans and iHeartRadio. It's made by Me, Gabby Watts, 830 00:50:33,845 --> 00:50:37,645 Speaker 1: Nika Duarte, and Taylor Church. You can follow us on 831 00:50:37,685 --> 00:50:43,045 Speaker 1: the internet on Instagram and Twitter at Cadaver Gals. See 832 00:50:43,085 --> 00:50:45,725 Speaker 1: you next time, suckers,