WEBVTT - The Glorious Flamingo 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:04.240 Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:13.200 Heart Radio. Hey, you're welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:15.960 and there's Chuck and Jerry's here too, and this is 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:21.720 Stuff you should Know. Another animal addition, which everybody loves those, 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.560 and so do I. I would love to see a 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.440 master list of all the animals that we've covered. Sure, 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.360 it's probably longer than I think, twice as long maybe, 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.720 But these are about mingoes. I'm super excited because, uh hey, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.520 I mean, who wasn't sort of fascinated by flamingos there 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.839 attention getters with their funny one legged stance in their 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:48.080 pink But when we finally went down to the Caribbean 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:52.319 for the first time this year, to the Bahamas, they 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:56.480 had some mingoes on their property and they would do 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:58.800 a you know, you could walk by them and just 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.240 say hi and stuff like that, and then in the 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.800 morning they would do a little flamingo parade where they 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.320 would walk them around the property like people would you 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.840 and are you could follow along, which of course we did. Uh, 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.440 And that just got my brain thinking, you know, uh, 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:19.120 Ruby has had a painting. We got a ten dollar painting, 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:21.640 like a real painting that someone did with their hands 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:25.559 for ten bucks. That's quite a deal of a tight 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.479 grouping of flamingos kind of from the neck up. That's 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.720 been in her room her whole life almost, and I 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.000 was just like, I gotta learn about these things. That's 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.240 a great composition, the group of flamingos from the neck up. 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.640 I've seen it before, not necessarily your painting, but I've 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.720 seen that that composition before, and it is it's a trope. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.280 It's great. It's good because it could be like trees 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:52.960 or sea grass, like any Spindley grouping of things. Um so, 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.640 so this is a painting of sea grass? Well you 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.560 know what I mean? Tall ready Spindley Okay, um so 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.680 this is a lot like the Possum episode for me, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.040 and that like I generally knew some stuff, but I 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.160 learned a bunch of new cool stuff and now I'm 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.280 a big flamingo fan. Yeah. Same. So you said something 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.400 about them parading around. Apparently, so was there a human 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.200 saying like, hey, this way, everybody, the parades going this way, 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.040 and the Flamingos would kind of follow. Yeah, they had 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:24.200 like an electric cattle pride, right. Apparently Flamingoes respond to 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.160 that really well. No, they had humans that were just 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.840 sort of walking along and sort of it seemed like 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.240 a just a very gentle, wavy, corralling type of gesture. Right. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.000 So there's a video artist and Israeli video artist whom 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:42.440 went to a zoo in Germany. Um, and she came 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:47.040 up with a video five minute video called sixty nine bows. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.840 I think sixty seven bows. Get your head out of 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:56.600 the gutter, sixty seven pounds, all right, um, And it 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.519 was the flamingos responding to a hand gesture or she did, 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.959 and all of all the flamingos would bow at once 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:07.519 but really it's like they're ducking. And then the artist inserted, um, 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.799 I think, very earnestly, but in retrospect also really hilariously 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.600 a gunshot sound, and then the flamingos would duck every 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.640 time the gunshot sound went off. It's that was a 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.160 little weird. I didn't expect that. Um. This is, by 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:24.520 the way, a video artist named Nira or Nero pereg 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.799 give credit where credits due, But that's all the same thing, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.119 and it was it was interesting to see them move 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.400 in unison and I watched a lot of flamingo videos. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.680 It's very fascinating the way they move about the earth. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.160 For sure, they do have a certain odd gangly grace 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:44.240 to them, don't they. Yeah. So, um, flamingos actually are 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:48.480 different from just about every other birds. Apparently their order 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:55.760 um Phoenicia terra forms. Um, thank you, I have an 0:03:55.800 --> 0:04:00.760 extra letter in there. No, I didn't phansiyop terra forms, 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:07.640 So what's should I quibble? No? I mean I don't 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:12.480 have an eye after the sea. I just have phenice terraforms. 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.919 My brain literally was like, nope, we're doing it. I 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.360 don't care what you see. Um, we're doing We're adding 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:26.480 the extra so pheniceop terra forms. Stupid brain. Your sounds better. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.039 If that makes you feel better. It does make me 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.320 feel a little better. But that's that's the order that 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.760 flamingos um belong to. And there's only five species, as 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:38.200 we'll see. But um, they are just the like, it's 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.159 just flamingos that belong to the order, and they diverge 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:45.760 from other um birds a really long time ago. But 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.760 you know, geneticists and biologists love to to taxonomize things, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.480 so they've tried to figure out the closest living relative 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.040 to the flamingo and what we did for a very 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.200 long time was like, oh, that animal looks like that animal, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.880 they must be very closely related. And as genetics of 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.440 kind of come of age. Starting around two thousand was 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.320 I think a really big turning point with the Human 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.600 Genome project um that we found that genetically speaking, that's 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.320 a terrible way to classify things, and the flamingos are 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.520 a good example of that. Yeah, it's kind of lazy, 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.960 it is. It's also like a it's old timey and dumb, 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.320 yeah sentence, you know what I mean. It is like, oh, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.440 they look like storks, so let's just put them in 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:25.960 that group. And that's what they did for a while, 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.000 storks and herons, and then uh no, maybe they're more 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.160 like geese and swans and ducks. But that wasn't right. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.520 And finally in the it took a while, I mean, 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.600 the early adds in two thousand one is when they 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.520 finally said, you know, genetically speaking, their closest to something 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.599 called is that a GREEB. I'm gonna go with GREEB 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.599 g r e B s and they are sort of duckish. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.400 Olivia helped us out. She said duck like I would 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.279 agree with that. Uh, and what What it did though, 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.520 was it kind of brought up what we're talking about. Apparently. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.719 I don't think it was like a firestorm, but I 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.400 think it was a case where they said, hey, like, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.000 we should do this better. And this is a prime example. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.479 And the old school taxonomists hung their head in shame 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.240 and kind of slunk off and retired and died at 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:14.919 various times. So the word flamingo bears a striking resemblance 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.080 to a Spanish word flamenco, which you can't say that 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.680 word without putting without snapping one finger at about your 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.239 stomach and one above your head. I can, at least 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.320 I know it's really the thing to do. And that 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:31.919 that word flamenco um has uh. It means actually the bird, 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.680 the flamingo. It also refers to that dance style and 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.479 style of music flamenco. And it also refers to a 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.840 person from Flanders, which is part of Belgium, right, So 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.280 a Flemish person would be called a flamenco in Spanish. Yeah, 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.120 and and I'm not sure why those are connected and 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.280 used in the same word, but they are all right, Well, 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.920 that is weird. Uh, we are gonna guess talk about 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:02.360 the different kinds. The species you said five, is there 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.880 not a six? There's okay, So I'm siding with the 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.800 ones who say one a subspecies of another. Okay, all right, 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.040 you've already put yourself in a particular flamingo camp. I see. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:15.960 I I have as a matter of fact, and I'm 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.600 going to stay there until genetics proves me wrong. All right, 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.640 Well we'll start with the greater flamingo. This is the 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.080 big fella. Um. They can be five feet tall. They 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.239 can weigh up like close to nine pounds, which doesn't 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.280 sound like a lot. But if you look at a flamingo, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.520 there's a lot of um money leg and there's not 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.520 a lot of body. There a lot of negative space 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:41.960 they don't take up. Yeah, exactly. Uh. These are pretty 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:46.400 pale when it comes to their pink pinkness. And we 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.320 should talk and I guess through this, we'll talk about 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.080 their distribution because it may surprise you. Um. I kind 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:52.320 of thought it was just like, yeah, they're in the 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.520 Caribbean and Florida and that's it. That's not true at all. Um. 0:07:55.560 --> 0:08:00.360 These are in Africa, Southern Europe, and Asia, as in 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.280 South Asia and Western Asia, and they like one of 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:08.160 the cool things about flamingos is they sometimes will live 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.840 where no other animals can or will live, and that 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.760 is really saline or alkaline lakes and mud flats in 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.160 places like that. Yeah, in that sense, they fill in 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.960 a specific ecological niche that there's really not many other 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:26.520 animals that that do. And that's just the first interesting, weird, 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:31.040 unusual fact about flamingos. Right, just get ready, Yeah, I 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.720 had no idea. So they eat like stuff in like 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.839 the saltiest, briniest parts of Earth. That's where they that's 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:41.839 where they like to be. So the Caribbean flamingo, which 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:46.479 we know of as the American flamingo um, is considered 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.199 by some, including myself, a subspecies of the greater flamingo, 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:54.520 which would make their just five species of flamingo technically, right. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.880 And these are the ones that I saw. Uh, they 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:03.280 are smaller, they are super super pink, very brightly colored. Um. 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.480 These are the same, very same flamingos, the ones that 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.680 I saw that actor Lea Schreiber played with the week before. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.840 Oh did he really? Man? You know how when you 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:15.960 get in a in a car to go to the 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.199 place wherever you're going, they liked always like to talk 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.920 about stuff like that, and this car driver was like, 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.920 you know, I can't do the accent, but he said 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.840 that Ray Donovan was here last week and oh, it's 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.600 like lovely of Schreiber, and Emily of course looked it 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.880 up and he um, if you want to see like 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:39.240 forty pictures of Lee Schreiber's family doing things in the Bahamas, Uh, 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.760 you can do that online because that's must be what 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.840 it's like to be a real celebrity. I couldn't imagine. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.120 It was this picture after picture flamingos and here he 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:49.920 is at the water slide and it's like, did they 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.800 just follow him around with the camera? And I guess 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.760 the answers yes. I UM. I started to watch Ray 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.560 Donovan Wants on a Flight um, because I've heard nothing 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.679 but good things about it. But must have come in 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.760 on like season five or something like that, because you 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:07.080 know on Delta they have like Rando episodes. It's so weird. Yeah, 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.360 it's so strange. So I and when I came in, 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.040 it was like the the either I think the season 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:18.040 premiere of some late season and like he's clearly having 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.200 some sort of mental breakdown because he's having a crisis 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:25.000 of conscience, conscience from killing people. And I was like, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.960 oh this again the killer had the killer can't just 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.520 take killing any longer. I'm like, I'm not done on this. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.640 I'm done. Yeah. I enjoyed we and we both love 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.000 that show, Emily and I for uh, probably the first 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:38.880 three or four seasons, and then it was one of 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.920 those that was like you should have known when to stop, 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.840 and then we kind of just quit watching. Yeah, I 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.440 mean that happens a lot, it does in America. That 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.840 was the good thing about our show. We we knew, well, 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.960 actually Science Channel knew that. It's a while we were ahead. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.560 You know what about the Chilean Flamingo. What's up with 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.920 that fella? These guys are particularly string an, unusual and 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.080 fascinating because they like to live in the cold. Um 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.520 they can handle cold weather at least um they live 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.320 in Chili in a lot of South America. In fact, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.840 I don't know why Chile got the um the naming rights, 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.760 but they typically have pink bands on their gray legs, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.720 which are something that kind of sets them off from 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.679 the other ones. And there, I guess the third in 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:26.000 line as far as size goes, there smaller than Caribbean 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:32.679 flamingos bigger than the lesser flamingo though, which is another right. Yeah, 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.920 it's such a sad name to call something the lesser flamingo. Uh. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.800 They are the smallest. They're about three to three to 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.199 five pounds ish. And they are also in Africa on 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.120 the eastern uh and southern uh well, I say coasts, 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:48.880 but they can go inland as well if they've got 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.960 some good, good alkaline lakes going on, but also in 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.680 places like Yemen. Yeah, you'll find flamingos and yemen in Pakistan, 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.680 in India. These have the dark bills and the really 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.760 really red eyes that are just beautiful to look at. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.200 And I believe this is the most abundant flamingo species, right, Yeah, 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.400 there's like they'll gather in packs of like millions, one 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.080 and a half two million, or at the very least 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.040 that's how many of there are total. But they do, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.800 they do gather in huge flox as we'll see, Yeah, 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.920 into the millions. That wasn't a hyperbole, by the way, 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.040 chuck Um, Flamingos in Yemen is an excellent album title, 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.520 oh man, not kidding. I mean talk about the album 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:35.080 art too. It would be wonderful. Yeah, that could see like, uh, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.320 I don't know who would do that, Franz Ferdinand or 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:41.600 somebody Franz Ferdinand or um what was our What did 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.520 Ian Bowers say our brit pop band was something Star? 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.280 I don't remember. That would be a great something Star 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.600 album Flamingos and yam and we're claiming that for our 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:57.040 band that we create after we retire. Okay, I just saw, 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.200 by the way, Franz Ferdinand is opening for the Pixies 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:04.000 on their leg which goes to Atlanta sweet when uh 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:08.480 in June. That's pretty cool, man. Yeah, I used to 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.800 love those guys. I've been on a huge Pixies kick 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.480 right now, um, which I had been way off the 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.640 Pixies for a while, Like, man, am I ever going 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.760 to like the pixie First new music? I haven't heard 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.680 any of the new stuff. I've just been. I just 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.800 got off of their old stuff and then I got 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:27.320 back into um Trump Lamont, which I mean it's just 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.800 so good from start to finish. So yeah, I love 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.080 the Pixies again everybody. And I don't really like Ray Donovan. 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.560 So there's the two things you need to know about 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.480 me from this episode. They're new when that came out 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.160 late last year. Is Okay, it sounds like a Pixies record, 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:47.920 but it's just it's not as weird. Oh yeah, it's 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.000 kind of polished. I don't know. It just sounds like, hey, 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.120 we're gonna make a Pixies record, so let's do that. 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:54.880 And I don't know. I mean, I think the new 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.160 bass player is doing a great job. But do Miss 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.719 Kim deal? So I mean, yeah, you gotta respect that though. 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.520 The not just like we're going to cash in on 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.120 the you know, three five albums that everybody's crazy about 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.480 from the eighties and early nineties and just tour on that, 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.720 although that's mostly what they played, thank goodness. So let's 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.319 let's um, let's talk about I think the coolest Flamingo, 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.239 or at least the most interesting of the flamingos. Obviously, 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.440 the Caribbean Flamingos, the Money Flamingo far and away the best, 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.760 just because it's so pink and pretty and perfect size 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.400 and all that stuff. But the Andean Flamingo, for my money, 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.080 is the most interesting of all. Yeah, they're very rare, 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.240 and it's just h I had no idea that they 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.880 could live high up in the Andes Mountains like that. Um. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.200 I was just blown away by that because I thought 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.600 they were really exclusively um, you know, like I said, 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.680 sort of coastal birds. But um, there aren't a lot 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.080 of about eighty thousand of them. And you will be 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.320 very saddened to know that those lithium batteries that we 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.960 all love because they last so long, lithium mining in 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.840 climate change are driving them away and destroying them. Batteries 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.880 kill flamingos, that's right. So yeah, there's about eighty thousand 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:09.600 of them alive, and they are I think under threatened status, 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.840 which is one step down from endangered and very much 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.760 threatening to move into endangered. So I don't know the 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:21.360 andian is vulnerable vulnerable Okay, so that's which is one 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:25.640 step down. Okay, I got you, Thanks, no problem. And 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.720 then James's flamingo is the one that you don't consider 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.440 like a full fledged flamingo. No, No, that's its own. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.720 That's a species. That's the Caribbean flamingo that I consider 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:40.960 a subspecies of the greater flamingo. All right, James's flamingo 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.840 is um. They thought it was actually extinct um in 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.720 the nineteen twenties, I believe. But then in the fifties. 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.320 It's a whole Cela Camp comeback story because they discovered 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.360 that there actually were James's flamingos that were mixed in 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.960 with Chilean and Andy and flamingos in South America. Um, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.840 and not mixed in like they were interbreeding like the 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.800 these huge flocks like we'll get across. The flocks of 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.880 flamingos in the wild are so enormous and so populous 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.480 it's crazy. But um, these flocks will there are these 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.560 different species will kind of flock together, but they keep 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.920 their distance from one another. And that's where they rediscovered 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.680 the James flamingo that wasn't extinct after all. Yeah, named 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:30.280 after the British naturalists who studied them, Harry Berkeley James, 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:31.960 and I guess he just felt good enough about his 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.480 work where he said, I'm gonna name you after me. Now, 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:38.840 let's go have some mead, right, all right, I think 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.840 we should take a break and have some mead and 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:54.200 we'll talk about their pinkness right after this stuff. You 0:16:54.240 --> 0:17:09.120 should know, all right, we're back. One of the things 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.720 I did know about flamingos, but only in a rudimentary way, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:14.720 was that they're pink because of what they eat. I 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.520 did not know this at all. Really. I think that's 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.400 a kind of a common like basic flamingo fact, which 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.560 is why are they pink? Because this stuff they eat? 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:29.159 Otherwise they oh no, not another one, not another seraph. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:35.560 Everybody knows that, you moron. Well, then could you do 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.520 us the uh, the honors please and explain this? No, no, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.800 you go ahead, you're explaining it fine. I was just teasing. Well, 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.240 it's because what they eat is rich in beta carotene, 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:50.320 and what they largely eat is algae um. They stick 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.439 their face down. If you see flamingos walking around in um, 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.760 I guess like ankle too, whatever their knees would be 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.960 knee deep water, you'll see them stick their face down 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.080 there a lot and rummage around, and sometimes they'll just 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.800 leave it down there, like fully dunked. And what they're 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.840 doing is they're eating their filter feeders like a baleen whale, 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.200 and they're just moving muddy water around and letting water 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.000 swish around in their mouth, and they have these little 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:20.680 uh what is it like a little filter yeah, described 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:26.359 as like a comb like filter along. They're lower bill okay, no, 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.920 their upper bill, yes, because they're upside down, so their 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.399 upper bill is now their lower bill when they're feeding, 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.640 and that's where the filter is, right, so they're they're 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.960 kind of like that oil pulling. You know, some people 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.480 swish essential oil in their mouth to like fight cavities 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.480 or whatever. I didn't know that that's essentially what they're doing. 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.359 They use their tongues to kind of switch the water 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.400 back and forth and then spit it out and get 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.520 some more water. And apparently they can do this like 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.239 four times in a second. They're that fast to just 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:57.680 gather really really small stuff. But the stuff that they're 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.280 eating is so full of beta carotene um carotenoids actually 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.480 that the flamingos um livers break the break them down 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.480 into a pigment. Which is a fun word to say, 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.880 and I'm about to say it. You ready can't as anthon? 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.000 Oh wow, that's way better than I what's I love it? 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.800 It's one of my new favorite words. C A N 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.439 t h A x A n t h I N 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.760 can't as anthon? Yeah, good job. So it ends up 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.000 in their feathers, in their skin, which turns them pink. 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.240 And this is why Chuck, I think that lesser and 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.800 Caribbean or Caribbean is a subspecies of Greater. Sorry, because 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.480 the big distinction, I mean, yes, the Greater is a 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:42.520 little bigger, not ridiculously bigger, but a big distinction is 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:46.080 their coloring. And I think that it's because the Caribbean 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:50.679 has more carotenoid rich diet than the Greater, and that 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.439 they're really genetically essentially the same species, they just have 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:59.560 different diets available to them. I think you're probably right, um. 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.600 And you know, because they like to put flamingos in 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.880 places like zoos for a long time, you're like, hey, 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:10.160 you feed these things red peppers and carrots and orange things, 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.200 and they turn and they keep that color. So we're 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.080 just going to feed them that and which is terrible 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.160 and a very lazy kind of point of view. Um, 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.359 But I think you know, now zoos are mostly on board. 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.480 I think with I was saying, okay, maybe we should 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.160 just feed them what they like to eat. That also 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:30.360 keeps them pink. And also you can turn orange everybody 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:32.879 knows for meeting like too many carrots or mangoes or 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:37.920 something like that, sweet potatoes. Um. And that's a condition 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.920 is called kademia, which will turn up in our Lives 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:47.320 show eventually. Oh, that's right, look for it. That's a 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.240 nice little tease. Watch for it this fall on stuff 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:54.000 you should know. Speaking of to her, we should just 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.280 go ahead and mention, um, because people are kind of asking. 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.160 We are doing these first three shows in real time 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:00.880 this week, that will be by the time it comes 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:04.919 out in Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco. But we are 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.680 aiming to do six more shows in tiny little groups 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:12.280 of three, hopefully in the in the late spring, in 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:16.640 the early fall. And um, we haven't nailed the cities down, 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.800 but you know that's that's what we're trying to do. 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:21.920 Not nine shows this year. You really put all those 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.159 questions to rest. Well, I mean, should we mention some 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:26.959 of those cities? I don't want people to be disappointed? 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.280 Yeah kind of No, I mean they're going to be 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.119 disappointed eventually. White might as well just disappoint them now 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.920 so they can be disappointed all year. Well, I think 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.240 we're gonna finally hit in Nashville. Yeah, I think we're 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.560 gonna do Orlando again and finish up in Atlanta again, 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:48.000 our hometown shows. It's right, what about in between? Uh? Well, 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.720 we're um, out of the four I think we're gonna 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:54.760 pick three from probably Boston, New York, d C in Chicago, 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.679 all cities that are great for stuff you should know, 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:01.600 rich with suff you should know listeners. Yeah, and if 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.560 we're gonna do this, like, you know, maybe nine shows 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.560 a year, we're gonna have to mix it up because 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.560 it's so easy to just go to like the same 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.200 banger cities every time. But we've been to so many 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.000 cities that turned out to be banger. Like surprisingly, Kansas 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.000 City was a great show. Uh. St. Louis was a 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:23.119 great show. Cleveland was a great show. Kansas. Yeah, Austin's 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:26.480 always the jam. I mean, we've been to a bunch 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:28.639 of places that were like this is this is actually 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.520 really great time we want to come back. It's just, um, 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:33.840 you know, if we're doing nine shows this year, we 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.480 we guys, we just started out with our our usual 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.840 how about that. Yeah, we're dipping our toe back in 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:40.720 the live show pun but we we also like to 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.879 add a brand new state. And that's why we're going 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:50.080 to Nashville this year. So, uh, take Heed, take Heed, 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:55.480 take heed. Boise. Yeah, that's good of Boise. We go 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:59.680 see our old friend Dave Ruce, that's his stomping ground. 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.160 Yeah all right, I think you can't tell is incredibly 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:08.280 chipper and positive personality. That's true, very poisyan. And by 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.240 the way, Chuck Um, we should give a shout out 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:15.760