1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, you're welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: and there's Chuck and Jerry's here too, and this is 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Stuff you should Know. Another animal addition, which everybody loves those, 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: and so do I. I would love to see a 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: master list of all the animals that we've covered. Sure, 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: it's probably longer than I think, twice as long maybe, 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: But these are about mingoes. I'm super excited because, uh hey, 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean, who wasn't sort of fascinated by flamingos there 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: attention getters with their funny one legged stance in their 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: pink But when we finally went down to the Caribbean 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 1: for the first time this year, to the Bahamas, they 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: had some mingoes on their property and they would do 14 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: a you know, you could walk by them and just 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: say hi and stuff like that, and then in the 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: morning they would do a little flamingo parade where they 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: would walk them around the property like people would you 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: and are you could follow along, which of course we did. Uh, 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: And that just got my brain thinking, you know, uh, 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: Ruby has had a painting. We got a ten dollar painting, 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: like a real painting that someone did with their hands 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: for ten bucks. That's quite a deal of a tight 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: grouping of flamingos kind of from the neck up. That's 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: been in her room her whole life almost, and I 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: was just like, I gotta learn about these things. That's 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: a great composition, the group of flamingos from the neck up. 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: I've seen it before, not necessarily your painting, but I've 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: seen that that composition before, and it is it's a trope. 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: It's great. It's good because it could be like trees 30 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: or sea grass, like any Spindley grouping of things. Um so, 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: so this is a painting of sea grass? Well you 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Tall ready Spindley Okay, um so 33 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: this is a lot like the Possum episode for me, 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: and that like I generally knew some stuff, but I 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: learned a bunch of new cool stuff and now I'm 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: a big flamingo fan. Yeah. Same. So you said something 37 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: about them parading around. Apparently, so was there a human 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: saying like, hey, this way, everybody, the parades going this way, 39 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: and the Flamingos would kind of follow. Yeah, they had 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: like an electric cattle pride, right. Apparently Flamingoes respond to 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: that really well. No, they had humans that were just 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: sort of walking along and sort of it seemed like 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: a just a very gentle, wavy, corralling type of gesture. Right. 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: So there's a video artist and Israeli video artist whom 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: went to a zoo in Germany. Um, and she came 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: up with a video five minute video called sixty nine bows. 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: I think sixty seven bows. Get your head out of 48 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: the gutter, sixty seven pounds, all right, um, And it 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: was the flamingos responding to a hand gesture or she did, 50 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: and all of all the flamingos would bow at once 51 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: but really it's like they're ducking. And then the artist inserted, um, 52 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: I think, very earnestly, but in retrospect also really hilariously 53 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: a gunshot sound, and then the flamingos would duck every 54 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: time the gunshot sound went off. It's that was a 55 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: little weird. I didn't expect that. Um. This is, by 56 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: the way, a video artist named Nira or Nero pereg 57 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: give credit where credits due, But that's all the same thing, 58 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: and it was it was interesting to see them move 59 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: in unison and I watched a lot of flamingo videos. 60 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: It's very fascinating the way they move about the earth. 61 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: For sure, they do have a certain odd gangly grace 62 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: to them, don't they. Yeah. So, um, flamingos actually are 63 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: different from just about every other birds. Apparently their order 64 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: um Phoenicia terra forms. Um, thank you, I have an 65 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: extra letter in there. No, I didn't phansiyop terra forms, 66 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: So what's should I quibble? No? I mean I don't 67 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: have an eye after the sea. I just have phenice terraforms. 68 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: My brain literally was like, nope, we're doing it. I 69 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: don't care what you see. Um, we're doing We're adding 70 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: the extra so pheniceop terra forms. Stupid brain. Your sounds better. 71 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: If that makes you feel better. It does make me 72 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: feel a little better. But that's that's the order that 73 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: flamingos um belong to. And there's only five species, as 74 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: we'll see. But um, they are just the like, it's 75 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: just flamingos that belong to the order, and they diverge 76 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: from other um birds a really long time ago. But 77 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, geneticists and biologists love to to taxonomize things, 78 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: so they've tried to figure out the closest living relative 79 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: to the flamingo and what we did for a very 80 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: long time was like, oh, that animal looks like that animal, 81 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: they must be very closely related. And as genetics of 82 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: kind of come of age. Starting around two thousand was 83 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: I think a really big turning point with the Human 84 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: Genome project um that we found that genetically speaking, that's 85 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: a terrible way to classify things, and the flamingos are 86 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: a good example of that. Yeah, it's kind of lazy, 87 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: it is. It's also like a it's old timey and dumb, 88 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: yeah sentence, you know what I mean. It is like, oh, 89 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: they look like storks, so let's just put them in 90 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: that group. And that's what they did for a while, 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: storks and herons, and then uh no, maybe they're more 92 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: like geese and swans and ducks. But that wasn't right. 93 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: And finally in the it took a while, I mean, 94 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: the early adds in two thousand one is when they 95 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: finally said, you know, genetically speaking, their closest to something 96 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: called is that a GREEB. I'm gonna go with GREEB 97 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: g r e B s and they are sort of duckish. 98 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: Olivia helped us out. She said duck like I would 99 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: agree with that. Uh, and what What it did though, 100 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: was it kind of brought up what we're talking about. Apparently. 101 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: I don't think it was like a firestorm, but I 102 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: think it was a case where they said, hey, like, 103 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: we should do this better. And this is a prime example. 104 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: And the old school taxonomists hung their head in shame 105 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: and kind of slunk off and retired and died at 106 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: various times. So the word flamingo bears a striking resemblance 107 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: to a Spanish word flamenco, which you can't say that 108 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: word without putting without snapping one finger at about your 109 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 1: stomach and one above your head. I can, at least 110 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I know it's really the thing to do. And that 111 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: that word flamenco um has uh. It means actually the bird, 112 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: the flamingo. It also refers to that dance style and 113 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: style of music flamenco. And it also refers to a 114 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: person from Flanders, which is part of Belgium, right, So 115 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: a Flemish person would be called a flamenco in Spanish. Yeah, 116 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: and and I'm not sure why those are connected and 117 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: used in the same word, but they are all right, Well, 118 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: that is weird. Uh, we are gonna guess talk about 119 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: the different kinds. The species you said five, is there 120 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: not a six? There's okay, So I'm siding with the 121 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: ones who say one a subspecies of another. Okay, all right, 122 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: you've already put yourself in a particular flamingo camp. I see. 123 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: I I have as a matter of fact, and I'm 124 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: going to stay there until genetics proves me wrong. All right, 125 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: Well we'll start with the greater flamingo. This is the 126 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: big fella. Um. They can be five feet tall. They 127 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 1: can weigh up like close to nine pounds, which doesn't 128 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: sound like a lot. But if you look at a flamingo, 129 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of um money leg and there's not 130 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot of body. There a lot of negative space 131 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: they don't take up. Yeah, exactly. Uh. These are pretty 132 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: pale when it comes to their pink pinkness. And we 133 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: should talk and I guess through this, we'll talk about 134 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: their distribution because it may surprise you. Um. I kind 135 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: of thought it was just like, yeah, they're in the 136 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Caribbean and Florida and that's it. That's not true at all. Um. 137 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: These are in Africa, Southern Europe, and Asia, as in 138 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: South Asia and Western Asia, and they like one of 139 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: the cool things about flamingos is they sometimes will live 140 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: where no other animals can or will live, and that 141 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: is really saline or alkaline lakes and mud flats in 142 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: places like that. Yeah, in that sense, they fill in 143 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: a specific ecological niche that there's really not many other 144 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: animals that that do. And that's just the first interesting, weird, 145 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: unusual fact about flamingos. Right, just get ready, Yeah, I 146 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: had no idea. So they eat like stuff in like 147 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: the saltiest, briniest parts of Earth. That's where they that's 148 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: where they like to be. So the Caribbean flamingo, which 149 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,479 Speaker 1: we know of as the American flamingo um, is considered 150 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: by some, including myself, a subspecies of the greater flamingo, 151 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: which would make their just five species of flamingo technically, right. 152 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: And these are the ones that I saw. Uh, they 153 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: are smaller, they are super super pink, very brightly colored. Um. 154 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: These are the same, very same flamingos, the ones that 155 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: I saw that actor Lea Schreiber played with the week before. 156 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: Oh did he really? Man? You know how when you 157 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: get in a in a car to go to the 158 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: place wherever you're going, they liked always like to talk 159 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: about stuff like that, and this car driver was like, 160 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, I can't do the accent, but he said 161 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: that Ray Donovan was here last week and oh, it's 162 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: like lovely of Schreiber, and Emily of course looked it 163 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: up and he um, if you want to see like 164 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: forty pictures of Lee Schreiber's family doing things in the Bahamas, Uh, 165 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: you can do that online because that's must be what 166 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: it's like to be a real celebrity. I couldn't imagine. 167 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: It was this picture after picture flamingos and here he 168 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: is at the water slide and it's like, did they 169 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: just follow him around with the camera? And I guess 170 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: the answers yes. I UM. I started to watch Ray 171 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: Donovan Wants on a Flight um, because I've heard nothing 172 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: but good things about it. But must have come in 173 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: on like season five or something like that, because you 174 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: know on Delta they have like Rando episodes. It's so weird. Yeah, 175 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: it's so strange. So I and when I came in, 176 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: it was like the the either I think the season 177 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: premiere of some late season and like he's clearly having 178 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: some sort of mental breakdown because he's having a crisis 179 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: of conscience, conscience from killing people. And I was like, 180 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: oh this again the killer had the killer can't just 181 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: take killing any longer. I'm like, I'm not done on this. 182 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm done. Yeah. I enjoyed we and we both love 183 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: that show, Emily and I for uh, probably the first 184 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: three or four seasons, and then it was one of 185 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: those that was like you should have known when to stop, 186 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: and then we kind of just quit watching. Yeah, I 187 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: mean that happens a lot, it does in America. That 188 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: was the good thing about our show. We we knew, well, 189 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: actually Science Channel knew that. It's a while we were ahead. 190 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: You know what about the Chilean Flamingo. What's up with 191 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: that fella? These guys are particularly string an, unusual and 192 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: fascinating because they like to live in the cold. Um 193 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: they can handle cold weather at least um they live 194 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: in Chili in a lot of South America. In fact, 195 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't know why Chile got the um the naming rights, 196 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: but they typically have pink bands on their gray legs, 197 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: which are something that kind of sets them off from 198 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: the other ones. And there, I guess the third in 199 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: line as far as size goes, there smaller than Caribbean 200 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: flamingos bigger than the lesser flamingo though, which is another right. Yeah, 201 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: it's such a sad name to call something the lesser flamingo. Uh. 202 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: They are the smallest. They're about three to three to 203 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: five pounds ish. And they are also in Africa on 204 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: the eastern uh and southern uh well, I say coasts, 205 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: but they can go inland as well if they've got 206 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: some good, good alkaline lakes going on, but also in 207 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: places like Yemen. Yeah, you'll find flamingos and yemen in Pakistan, 208 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: in India. These have the dark bills and the really 209 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: really red eyes that are just beautiful to look at. 210 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: And I believe this is the most abundant flamingo species, right, Yeah, 211 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: there's like they'll gather in packs of like millions, one 212 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: and a half two million, or at the very least 213 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: that's how many of there are total. But they do, 214 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: they do gather in huge flox as we'll see, Yeah, 215 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: into the millions. That wasn't a hyperbole, by the way, 216 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: chuck Um, Flamingos in Yemen is an excellent album title, 217 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: oh man, not kidding. I mean talk about the album 218 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: art too. It would be wonderful. Yeah, that could see like, uh, 219 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't know who would do that, Franz Ferdinand or 220 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: somebody Franz Ferdinand or um what was our What did 221 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: Ian Bowers say our brit pop band was something Star? 222 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't remember. That would be a great something Star 223 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: album Flamingos and yam and we're claiming that for our 224 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: band that we create after we retire. Okay, I just saw, 225 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: by the way, Franz Ferdinand is opening for the Pixies 226 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: on their leg which goes to Atlanta sweet when uh 227 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: in June. That's pretty cool, man. Yeah, I used to 228 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: love those guys. I've been on a huge Pixies kick 229 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: right now, um, which I had been way off the 230 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: Pixies for a while, Like, man, am I ever going 231 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: to like the pixie First new music? I haven't heard 232 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: any of the new stuff. I've just been. I just 233 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: got off of their old stuff and then I got 234 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: back into um Trump Lamont, which I mean it's just 235 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: so good from start to finish. So yeah, I love 236 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: the Pixies again everybody. And I don't really like Ray Donovan. 237 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: So there's the two things you need to know about 238 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: me from this episode. They're new when that came out 239 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: late last year. Is Okay, it sounds like a Pixies record, 240 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: but it's just it's not as weird. Oh yeah, it's 241 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: kind of polished. I don't know. It just sounds like, hey, 242 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna make a Pixies record, so let's do that. 243 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean, I think the new 244 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: bass player is doing a great job. But do Miss 245 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: Kim deal? So I mean, yeah, you gotta respect that though. 246 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: The not just like we're going to cash in on 247 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: the you know, three five albums that everybody's crazy about 248 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: from the eighties and early nineties and just tour on that, 249 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: although that's mostly what they played, thank goodness. So let's 250 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: let's um, let's talk about I think the coolest Flamingo, 251 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,239 Speaker 1: or at least the most interesting of the flamingos. Obviously, 252 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: the Caribbean Flamingos, the Money Flamingo far and away the best, 253 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: just because it's so pink and pretty and perfect size 254 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But the Andean Flamingo, for my money, 255 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: is the most interesting of all. Yeah, they're very rare, 256 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: and it's just h I had no idea that they 257 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: could live high up in the Andes Mountains like that. Um. 258 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: I was just blown away by that because I thought 259 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: they were really exclusively um, you know, like I said, 260 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: sort of coastal birds. But um, there aren't a lot 261 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: of about eighty thousand of them. And you will be 262 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: very saddened to know that those lithium batteries that we 263 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: all love because they last so long, lithium mining in 264 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: climate change are driving them away and destroying them. Batteries 265 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: kill flamingos, that's right. So yeah, there's about eighty thousand 266 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: of them alive, and they are I think under threatened status, 267 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: which is one step down from endangered and very much 268 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: threatening to move into endangered. So I don't know the 269 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: andian is vulnerable vulnerable Okay, so that's which is one 270 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: step down. Okay, I got you, Thanks, no problem. And 271 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: then James's flamingo is the one that you don't consider 272 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: like a full fledged flamingo. No, No, that's its own. 273 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: That's a species. That's the Caribbean flamingo that I consider 274 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: a subspecies of the greater flamingo. All right, James's flamingo 275 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: is um. They thought it was actually extinct um in 276 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: the nineteen twenties, I believe. But then in the fifties. 277 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: It's a whole Cela Camp comeback story because they discovered 278 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: that there actually were James's flamingos that were mixed in 279 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: with Chilean and Andy and flamingos in South America. Um, 280 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: and not mixed in like they were interbreeding like the 281 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: these huge flocks like we'll get across. The flocks of 282 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: flamingos in the wild are so enormous and so populous 283 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: it's crazy. But um, these flocks will there are these 284 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: different species will kind of flock together, but they keep 285 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: their distance from one another. And that's where they rediscovered 286 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: the James flamingo that wasn't extinct after all. Yeah, named 287 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: after the British naturalists who studied them, Harry Berkeley James, 288 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: and I guess he just felt good enough about his 289 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: work where he said, I'm gonna name you after me. Now, 290 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: let's go have some mead, right, all right, I think 291 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: we should take a break and have some mead and 292 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: we'll talk about their pinkness right after this stuff. You 293 00:16:54,240 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: should know, all right, we're back. One of the things 294 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: I did know about flamingos, but only in a rudimentary way, 295 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: was that they're pink because of what they eat. I 296 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: did not know this at all. Really. I think that's 297 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: a kind of a common like basic flamingo fact, which 298 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: is why are they pink? Because this stuff they eat? 299 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: Otherwise they oh no, not another one, not another seraph. 300 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: Everybody knows that, you moron. Well, then could you do 301 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: us the uh, the honors please and explain this? No, no, 302 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: you go ahead, you're explaining it fine. I was just teasing. Well, 303 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: it's because what they eat is rich in beta carotene, 304 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: and what they largely eat is algae um. They stick 305 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: their face down. If you see flamingos walking around in um, 306 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: I guess like ankle too, whatever their knees would be 307 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: knee deep water, you'll see them stick their face down 308 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: there a lot and rummage around, and sometimes they'll just 309 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: leave it down there, like fully dunked. And what they're 310 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: doing is they're eating their filter feeders like a baleen whale, 311 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: and they're just moving muddy water around and letting water 312 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: swish around in their mouth, and they have these little 313 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: uh what is it like a little filter yeah, described 314 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: as like a comb like filter along. They're lower bill okay, no, 315 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: their upper bill, yes, because they're upside down, so their 316 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: upper bill is now their lower bill when they're feeding, 317 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: and that's where the filter is, right, so they're they're 318 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: kind of like that oil pulling. You know, some people 319 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: swish essential oil in their mouth to like fight cavities 320 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: or whatever. I didn't know that that's essentially what they're doing. 321 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: They use their tongues to kind of switch the water 322 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: back and forth and then spit it out and get 323 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: some more water. And apparently they can do this like 324 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: four times in a second. They're that fast to just 325 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: gather really really small stuff. But the stuff that they're 326 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: eating is so full of beta carotene um carotenoids actually 327 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: that the flamingos um livers break the break them down 328 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: into a pigment. Which is a fun word to say, 329 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: and I'm about to say it. You ready can't as anthon? 330 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's way better than I what's I love it? 331 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: It's one of my new favorite words. C A N 332 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: t h A x A n t h I N 333 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: can't as anthon? Yeah, good job. So it ends up 334 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: in their feathers, in their skin, which turns them pink. 335 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: And this is why Chuck, I think that lesser and 336 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Caribbean or Caribbean is a subspecies of Greater. Sorry, because 337 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: the big distinction, I mean, yes, the Greater is a 338 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: little bigger, not ridiculously bigger, but a big distinction is 339 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: their coloring. And I think that it's because the Caribbean 340 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: has more carotenoid rich diet than the Greater, and that 341 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: they're really genetically essentially the same species, they just have 342 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: different diets available to them. I think you're probably right, um. 343 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: And you know, because they like to put flamingos in 344 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: places like zoos for a long time, you're like, hey, 345 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: you feed these things red peppers and carrots and orange things, 346 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: and they turn and they keep that color. So we're 347 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: just going to feed them that and which is terrible 348 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: and a very lazy kind of point of view. Um, 349 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: But I think you know, now zoos are mostly on board. 350 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: I think with I was saying, okay, maybe we should 351 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: just feed them what they like to eat. That also 352 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: keeps them pink. And also you can turn orange everybody 353 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: knows for meeting like too many carrots or mangoes or 354 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: something like that, sweet potatoes. Um. And that's a condition 355 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: is called kademia, which will turn up in our Lives 356 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: show eventually. Oh, that's right, look for it. That's a 357 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: nice little tease. Watch for it this fall on stuff 358 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: you should know. Speaking of to her, we should just 359 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and mention, um, because people are kind of asking. 360 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: We are doing these first three shows in real time 361 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: this week, that will be by the time it comes 362 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: out in Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco. But we are 363 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: aiming to do six more shows in tiny little groups 364 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: of three, hopefully in the in the late spring, in 365 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: the early fall. And um, we haven't nailed the cities down, 366 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: but you know that's that's what we're trying to do. 367 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: Not nine shows this year. You really put all those 368 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: questions to rest. Well, I mean, should we mention some 369 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: of those cities? I don't want people to be disappointed? 370 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah kind of No, I mean they're going to be 371 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: disappointed eventually. White might as well just disappoint them now 372 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: so they can be disappointed all year. Well, I think 373 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna finally hit in Nashville. Yeah, I think we're 374 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: gonna do Orlando again and finish up in Atlanta again, 375 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: our hometown shows. It's right, what about in between? Uh? Well, 376 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: we're um, out of the four I think we're gonna 377 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: pick three from probably Boston, New York, d C in Chicago, 378 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: all cities that are great for stuff you should know, 379 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: rich with suff you should know listeners. Yeah, and if 380 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, like, you know, maybe nine shows 381 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: a year, we're gonna have to mix it up because 382 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: it's so easy to just go to like the same 383 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: banger cities every time. But we've been to so many 384 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: cities that turned out to be banger. Like surprisingly, Kansas 385 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: City was a great show. Uh. St. Louis was a 386 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: great show. Cleveland was a great show. Kansas. Yeah, Austin's 387 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: always the jam. I mean, we've been to a bunch 388 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: of places that were like this is this is actually 389 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: really great time we want to come back. It's just, um, 390 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, if we're doing nine shows this year, we 391 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: we guys, we just started out with our our usual 392 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: how about that. Yeah, we're dipping our toe back in 393 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: the live show pun but we we also like to 394 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: add a brand new state. And that's why we're going 395 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: to Nashville this year. So, uh, take Heed, take Heed, 396 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: take heed. Boise. Yeah, that's good of Boise. We go 397 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: see our old friend Dave Ruce, that's his stomping ground. 398 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, I think you can't tell is incredibly 399 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: chipper and positive personality. That's true, very poisyan. And by 400 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: the way, Chuck Um, we should give a shout out 401 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: to Dave's podcast, A Bible Time Machine, Right, Yeah. Dave 402 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: is a bit of a biblical scholar and takes a 403 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: very sort of analytical view of the Bible in this podcast. 404 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: It's not like a preachy thing, right right. So if 405 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: you want to get to know Dave, Ru's one of 406 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: our great writers that works for stuff you should know. 407 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: You can get to know him a lot more wherever 408 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: you get podcasts Bible Time Machine. Yeah, dare I say 409 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: a sort of stuff you should know, like approach to 410 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: biblical matters. I mean, how could it not be, you know? Yeah, 411 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: I know. Can we go back to flamingos for goodness sakes, 412 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: because this is where it gets really interesting to me. 413 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: Is a lot of this stuff in the next five minutes, 414 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: namely namely their age. Did you know that lived this old? No, dude, 415 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: twenty to sixty years and the oldest flamingo on record 416 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: was eighty three years old. Yeah, his name was Greater. 417 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: He was a greater flamingo and they named him Greater 418 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: at the Adelaide Zoo. He showed up at the zoo 419 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: in the thirties and he died in two thousand fourteen. 420 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: And he was just this amazing resident. And apparently the 421 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: Adelaide Zoo had like a flamingo encounter where their flamingos 422 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: were able to mix with humans, and that turned out 423 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: very badly. Four Greater in two thousand and eight because 424 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: four scumbag teenagers beat him almost to death for no 425 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: reason other than he was there. He was an animal. 426 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: And I looked so hard to find out what happened 427 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: to those teenagers, and all I could find was that 428 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: they were charged no follow up whatsoever, which really makes 429 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: me think that they were released to their parents custody 430 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: and they've probably been torturing animals ever since. Yeah, this 431 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: this one was really tough to read about. I don't 432 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: need to say anything else about it. And it's disgusting. Yeah, 433 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: it is disgusting. And know that Australians are like the 434 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: opposite of that as people. I know, it's really surprising. 435 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: Hopefully they got hit in the butt with a giant 436 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: boot like on the Simpsons, or maybe they gave the 437 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: old outback treatment. You know what I mean, A dingo 438 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: ate my scumbag. See if you can find your my 439 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: own boys. Uh, that's not of course I don't. I'm 440 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: not supporting, like you know, killing teenagers in retribution. But 441 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: also we're not supporting teenagers beating up animals and getting 442 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: away with especially an elderly animal too. It wasn't even 443 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: like a young animal. It was three well let's see, 444 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: so he was in his seventies, mid se flamingo that 445 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: they beat up. I didn't mean to spend this much 446 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: time on it, but I am a little worked up 447 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: about us. Still, no, no, no, I'm with you, man, 448 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: it's it's awful. Um. Flamingos may want to travel occasionally. 449 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: They're considered non migratory, but they will get out of 450 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: dodge if they need to. Um, if they you know, 451 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: if the food isn't good or whatever there, or the 452 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: waters um too higher, too low, they'll they'll go to 453 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: greener pastures. And they'll do so with um a plum. 454 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: Because they can travel. Man. They like to travel at night. 455 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: They like those red eye flights and they can go 456 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: like three hundred to four hundred miles a night. Yeah, 457 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: they traveled between about thirty to forty miles per hour typically, 458 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: so that's forty six kilo. That's pretty fast. Yeah, especially 459 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: over ten straight hours, that's pretty impressive. But yeah, they 460 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: typically like to stay where they are. It's just if 461 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: the environment changes, they're like, all right, we're out of here, 462 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: we gotta go find us a new alkaline flat. Yeah. 463 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: What about the way they stand, because that's what really 464 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: every time I've seen flamingos, and this is one of 465 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: the main reasons I dug into this was why in 466 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: the world did they stand there on one leg? Well, 467 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: they thought for a long time it was to conserve 468 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: body heat, which is another It must have come from 469 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century taxonomous don't get that that bony little 470 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: leg and gonna conserve any heat. Um. But I guess 471 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: they were like, well, there's no feathers or anything on it, 472 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: so I guess it's a huge thing to lose heat. 473 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: But there was more investigation that was like, no, actually, 474 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: they have a really good system for conserving heat in 475 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: their their bony little legs. Um, So that's not it. 476 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: And they think probably it's just that it's more stable 477 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: and possibly more comfortable for them to stand on one 478 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: leg because they're able to lock the um the tendons 479 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: and ligaments and muscles and joints and everything in the 480 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: leg that they're standing on, and it's just like you're 481 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: not you're not gonna fall over. Um. And then there's 482 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: one other thing about this, chuck um. They have a knee. 483 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: It's not what you think. It's not in the middle 484 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: of their leg. That's not their knee. Their knee, which 485 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: allows them to move forward and backward is um where 486 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: they're where our hips are. It's up in their body 487 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: about where our hips are. That's what their knee where 488 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: their hips. I don't know. I saw that they have 489 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: hips though that they do have hips. They're similar to 490 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: other birds, but I don't know if that was a 491 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: reference to their actual knee. Interesting. Yeah, you can tell 492 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: they're locked in like when they're standing there, they're not. 493 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: They're not swaying around Like put me on one leg 494 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: for a little while and you're gonna see a little movement. Yeah, yeah, 495 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: you are. They tell you not to like lock your 496 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: knees um for very long because you can faint for 497 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: some reason. We'll have to do a short stuff on 498 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: that sometime for humans. Yes, well, well you're not flamingo 499 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: esk in that respect, No, not at all. Uh. You 500 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: mentioned their communities and this is just amazing. They their 501 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: their colonies or their flamboyance, which is we did a 502 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: whole episode on on those names. Um, a flamboyance of flamingoes. 503 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: I've seen other places say a regiment or a flurry 504 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: or a stand, but why would you not say a 505 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: flamboyance of flamingo Don't know, I just just just lock 506 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: that in like a ligament, that's right. Yeah. So, um, 507 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: I think there was a study that was done in 508 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: that kind of uh looked at these groups and started 509 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: to like actually pay attention to individual members of them, 510 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: and found that like that, the the the groups have 511 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: incredibly complex social relationships and interactions, and there's clicks within 512 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: these larger groups, and um, some members will have enemies 513 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: and um, this is actually something I liked about flamingos. 514 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: They tend to be very peaceful. Like it's not one 515 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: of those things where you like, oh, that beautiful pink 516 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: bird likes to eat tear the heads off of lizards 517 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: and beat up one another or something like that. They're 518 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: actually super peaceful animals. They like to avoid their enemies. 519 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: They don't. They're just kind of like, hey, man, relax, 520 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: don't do it, you know when you want to get Yeah, 521 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: they have friends, um, they and they also are serial monogamous, 522 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: as we'll see. Yeah, they get together, uh for a 523 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: mating season, and they typically change it up after that 524 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: mating season and get a new partner, but they stick 525 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: together through that mating season in and they will um, 526 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: they will, they will co uh. I guess well, I 527 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: guess we should talk about their breeding. They breed when 528 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: they want to breed, which is kind of cool. It's 529 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: not like a certain time of year or you know, 530 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: any particular season. It's just got to be like the 531 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: right spot, the right um circumstance, and then they get 532 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: it on. And if you want to see some fun stuff, 533 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: just go on an internet video player and just um 534 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: check out Flamingo Mating Dance Ritual or something like that, 535 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: and just watch all the beautiful myriad videos that are 536 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: online from the BBC and other places of these huge 537 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 1: groups of like hundreds and like you said, they can 538 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: group in the millions. At least there was the hundreds 539 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: of thousands. But yes, I'm all thought there was a 540 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: flamingo flock once that hit million and they were like, 541 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: we did it a flock a flamboyance. I'm sorry, thank 542 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: you for saving me from I sell uh. And they 543 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: just you know, they move around and dance and if 544 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of um mating rituals include dance 545 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: in the wild, but it's usually like a male dancing 546 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: to attract the attention of the female. But in this case, 547 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 1: they're both trying to impress one another. And the most 548 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: um I guess prolific maters are the ones. They're about 549 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: twenty years old, by the way, which is right in 550 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: the wheelhouse, but they are the ones that have the 551 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: most dance moves and the the best ability to switch 552 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: between those moves. And it's really kind of cute, you know. 553 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: It's like literally dancing and how impressive is your dance? Right? 554 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: And it's it's it bears a strong resemblance to how 555 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: humans mate, where like you're at a club and you're 556 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: dancing together to see how you connect, and if it's 557 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: just right, then you go off together and stay together 558 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: for a year, right, And that's just like flamingos are, right, 559 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: and back to that when they do finally get together, 560 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: the both the male and the female UM will help 561 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: nurture that egg and sit with that egg because it's 562 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: only one egg. Um, the incubation period is pretty short, 563 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: it's about a month, and so they they're really both 564 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: involved in that process, which is kind of cool. Yeah, 565 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: it's remarkable actually, Um, some of those dance moves to 566 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: there like stuff you'd expect, you know, like them flapping 567 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: and bending their heads and sticking their tails up and stuff. 568 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: But they also do huh, a lot of headwork, that's right, Yeah, yes, 569 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: so then that's what you would think with a flamingo. 570 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: But they also have at least one move where they 571 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: put like a wing point in one direction and the 572 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: leg points in another, which very much brings to mind 573 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: John Travolta on the cover Saturday Night Fever. And there's 574 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: actually a name for that move. It's called the disco finger. 575 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: So Flamingos do the disco finger. So if a flamboyance 576 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: of Flamingos doing the disco finger isn't enough to make 577 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: you love Flamingos, then there's something really wrong with you. Yeah, 578 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: that's another bumper sticker. We've got batteries killed Flamingos and 579 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: flamingos with the disco sticker for the exactly. Here's another 580 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: kind of fun thing when it comes to mating season 581 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: is the ladies will almost adorned makeup. Um. There is 582 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: a gland on their tail which produces you know how 583 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: they have that that that coloration. It produces a really 584 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: rich version of that carrotinoid oil, and they will they 585 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: will wipe it on their bills and on their wings 586 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: as like like pretty in themselves up a little bit. 587 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: And it gets even better because after they have made 588 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: it there, after mating season, they stopped doing that. They're 589 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: just like, I'm not gonna bother anymore. Just like humans, man, 590 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Flamingos are a lot and I think it's actually both 591 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: um sexes that do that that makeup. I don't think 592 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: it's just females. But yeah, they're they're just like whatever, 593 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: we we already landed a eat? Was that just flamingo 594 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 1: sexist a little bit? But that's okay, you didn't mean. 595 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: There's also another remarkable thing about flamingos that they're part 596 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: of just a small handful of birds that produced milk 597 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: for their young. And you're like, whoa, that would make 598 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: them mammals? Wrong? There's actually like pigeons, flamingos, and I 599 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: don't remember the other one. There's maybe one or two 600 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: more that produced milk and what this is called crop milk, 601 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: and they produce it through um glands that line all 602 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: along their digestive tract and it's full of that carotenoid 603 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: um rich fatty rich um food. There's also a lot 604 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: of red blood cells, which I suspect probably imparts to 605 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: their young um like immunity to like disease and stuff 606 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: like that. And it's like really red um. So people 607 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: are like, wow, that that flamingo is killing the other 608 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: flamingo is dripping blood all over it. That's actually it's 609 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: it's crop milk. And that's pretty cool because as Chuck, 610 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: both sexes produced the crop milk in both sexes take 611 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: turns not only caring for the chick but feeding the 612 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: chick too. And Chuck, by the way, they only lay 613 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: one egg at a time typically, so a couple, this 614 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: monogamous couple will both be feeding their one kid milk 615 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: at the same time. Well not at the same time probably, 616 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: but you know, in the same rearing. How about that 617 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: and both letting their appearance go. That's right. It's the 618 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: same time, not wearing any makeup. They both look very tired. Uh. 619 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: This Um, the parents care for this little chickie for 620 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: about a week in the nest and then they kind 621 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: of go to daycare almost uh. And that they go 622 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: off with all the other little babies, and they're called 623 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: crutches and there are a few adults sort of watching 624 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: out like daycare workers. Uh. And then nine to thirteen 625 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: weeks later, and we should say they're born um basically 626 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: sort of kind of grayish white or brownish white. And 627 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: then once they start, you know, eating all the stuff, 628 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: then they get that pink hue. But nine to thirteen 629 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: weeks is when they're gonna kind of, you know, get 630 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: ready to go and beat full fledged flamingos. They can 631 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: also perhaps form same sex couples, right like there there 632 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: was a pair at the Denver Zoo, very very sweet. Uh, 633 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury and Lance Bass. Uh. Lance was the Chilean flamingo. 634 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury was an American flamingo and or say was 635 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: I guess is I think they're still around, but sadly 636 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: not together. They got together before the pandemic in twin 637 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: and we're surrogate parents, basically for breeding couples that abandoned 638 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: their eggs, and then apparently about a year later, after 639 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: the pandemic hit, they said too much. I've had enough, right, 640 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: but we'll part close friends. The human lance Bass is 641 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: surely honored to have had a flamingo named after him 642 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: that was in the same sex couple with the flamingo 643 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: named after Freddie Mark Greek. Don't you think sure? He 644 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: already has a fish named after him, m man, dad, 645 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: we should take a break, Yeah, we said, all right, 646 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Stuff. You should know, all right, Chuck, 647 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: we're back, and um. People have really enjoyed flamingos for 648 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: a long time, a lot longer than than even just 649 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: since we started appreciating flamingos, you and me. Yeah, like 650 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: a few days ago. Way longer than that, like thousands 651 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: of years longer than that. As a matter of fact, 652 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: there's a cave painting from southern Spain that dates from 653 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: seven thousand years before present that has a flamingo on. 654 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: It's pretty much unmistakable. Yeah, I'll just look at the 655 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: cave and they're the answers. They're an Egyptian art there, 656 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, since there has been kids books. They've been 657 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: all over kids books because kids obviously are going to 658 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: be fascinated by flamingoes because they're so striking. That's why 659 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: there's one hanging on my daughter's wall. Although I don't 660 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: think we have any flamingo books. Oh, you need to 661 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: remedy that situation. But if someone hasn't written one about 662 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury and Lance Bass and there's an opportunity they're waiting. 663 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: I have two flamingo dads exactly. Um. But you know, 664 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: it probably would also not surprise you to learn that 665 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: not too long ago in the nineteenth century, flamingoes were 666 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,479 Speaker 1: hunted and killed because the ladies had to have those 667 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: lovely pink feathers in their hats. Um, they would eat flamingos. Um. 668 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: It was a you know, if you go back to 669 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: like ancient Rome, it was a um, a delicacy, and 670 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: in other parts of the world too. I think, yeah, 671 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: and that's just so just old timey again kind of 672 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 1: dim humans like look at that pretty feather. I'm gonna 673 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: go kill that thing that has those pretty feathers, and 674 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill them so often that they're gonna just 675 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: go extinct. So, Chuck, did you know this that they 676 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: think at least the Caribbean ones probable that all flamingos 677 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: are I'm just making that up, but at the least 678 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: the Caribbean um flamingos seemed to hail from Florida. People 679 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: consider them um native to like maybe the Bahamas or 680 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: Cuba or somewhere else. Nope, they seem to have originated 681 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: or be native to South Florida, specifically the Keys. Yeah. 682 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: And I think that they were so overhunted. It was 683 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: thought that they, like any flamingos in the twentieth century, 684 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: were either just travelers who got you know, lost on 685 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: the way to the Caribbean, or they were escaped captives. Uh. 686 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: And so they tagged one. I think in the twenty 687 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: tins there was a flamingo name Conky or Conchi, depending 688 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: on how you say the word conk, conch. What do 689 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: you say conky? Okay? I said Conky two. Uh. And 690 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: they saw this swimmingo. I think they tagged it. It 691 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: was near an airfield on Boca Chica Key oh Bosa, 692 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Oh. And they gave you the old 693 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: satellite transmitter treatment on the leg. And then I said 694 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure this thing is going to go back to 695 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: the Caribbean, and they said, no, this thing is actually 696 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: sticking around and is permanent. So, like, I think that's 697 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: whether they when they decided, hey, I think these these 698 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: are not wayward travelers or captives that have escaped. I 699 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: think they're Florida flamingos. Yeah, And they they said, well, 700 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: wait a minute, it's possible that they are escaped ones 701 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of nineteenth century eroad tycoons 702 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: that built like enormous estates for themselves and imported flamingos 703 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: for those estates, because the local flamingos are all dead, 704 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: and uh, scientists have said, like, it doesn't matter. We're 705 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: just going to say this is the native population rebounding, 706 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: and let's just call it that and stop asking questions. 707 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Now the flamingos are coming back and 708 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: they're from Florida originally. That's right. And I think which 709 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: one is actually increasing in population? The Caribbean and I 710 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: believe the Greater are both increasing in population, if I'm 711 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: not mistaken. Yeah, I think so. Which is great? Yeah, 712 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: that is great, it's Greater. Um, they're about twenty thousand. 713 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: I heard that. By the way, they're about twenty thousand 714 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 1: flamingos living in um. I say captivity. It is captivity, 715 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: but the in in zoos basically, and uh, we have 716 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: them here in our Atlanta zoo. You can go buy 717 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: and visit them. I guess that counts. At this place 718 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: in the Bahamas, they're like fifteen or twenty that they 719 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: had probably wouldn't that many, maybe about a dozen. Um. 720 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: But they have found that, you know, flamingos like to 721 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: be in big, large groups when it comes to these 722 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: mating rituals. They like, they like a lot of um choice, 723 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: I think in their selective mates. And so they said, 724 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: these smaller groups, they're not mating like they should. So 725 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: at least one zoo in England, the well it's spelled Colchester. 726 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not pronounced that way. Um, it's probably 727 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: Colster or something like that. Kolki. Yeah, the Kulki Zoo 728 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: in England put up big, full length mirrors to trick 729 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: them into thinking they were bigger groups, right, and it worked. 730 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: They like to look at themselves too, apparently. Yeah, But 731 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean it gave them the illusion that there was 732 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: way more flamingos than they all started to dance and 733 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: get it on and sex with a mirror. Yeah, and 734 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: the flamingo population and captivity in England was saved. Uh 735 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 1: oh really yeah, I'm just wrapping it up. Okay. They 736 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: clip their wings generally when they're in zoos because they 737 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: will fly away of worse. Uh And if they don't 738 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: get on those wings enough and they they managed to 739 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: sneak out a little more wings size, then they will 740 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: fly away and they'll they'll go away and this zoo 741 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: flamingo will be found many meaning miles away for years 742 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: and years in a row and become little celebrities. Yeah. 743 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: Apparently there was a ranger at the Great Salt Lake 744 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: who reported a flamingo and was I apparently told or 745 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: asked if there was an elephant with it, because there's 746 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: just no flamingos at the at the Great Salt Lake. 747 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: But this one named Pink Floyd escaped from the Tracy 748 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: Aviary in Salt Lake City and was like, holy cow, 749 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 1: a huge salt lake. This is exactly where I want 750 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: to be. But sadly, um, I mean he basically lived 751 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: there for the rest of his life, but he was alone. Um. 752 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: So there was actually a group in Salt Lake City 753 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 1: called the Friends of Floyd who wanted to import twenty 754 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: five more flamingos, and the people running Great Salt Lake, 755 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: I guess park where like this is a really bad idea. 756 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: These are not a native species. We should not be 757 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: importing them in the twenty century. We know better than 758 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: doing that. Despite how a lone Floyd is. Yeah, good 759 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, and I did mention eating them. They 760 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: used to eat them in ancient Rome. Uh. There was 761 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: a writer for Slate, Molly Olmstead, that was um shocked 762 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: to find out about the number of Google searches for 763 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 1: can you eat a Flamingo a few years ago, And 764 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: she kind of chalked it up to people not necessarily 765 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: thinking like, hey, I want to go eat a flamingo, 766 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: but just reading about them and people thinking, well, they're birds. 767 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm curious to people eat them. Uh and not a 768 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: genuine like um effort to eat a flamingo. No, but 769 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: they definitely did eat them, apparently. Pliny the Elder wrote 770 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: that they have the most exquisite flavor and um because 771 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: they set the tongues specifically too. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, 772 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: that's right. The flamingo tongues and flamingo meat tongue is 773 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: actually really good. Man, If you're gonna eat an animal, 774 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: the tongue is not to be wasted. Typically, I don't 775 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: like tongue. That's fine. I'm just telling you. If you've 776 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: never tried it before, okay, and you don't like it, 777 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't like the consistency. Wait, hold on, let me 778 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: do it. You what you don't like tongue? No, I 779 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: don't think you should like wasted. I'm glad people eat 780 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: it if they're gonna be eating an animal, but it's 781 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: not for me. I understand. And yeah, I would never 782 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: impress that on you. I appreciate that. But the meat 783 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: of a flamingo probably has a really distinct taste, and 784 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: that they have, you know, layers of fat because they're 785 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: a water bird. Water birds have layers of fat like duck. 786 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: Duck is delicious obviously in part because of its huge 787 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: fat content, but then also they eat so much algae 788 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: that they would have huge levels of Omega three, which 789 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: could give them a fishy taste. Right, I think that's 790 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: the deal. Two fishy a ducky fishy taste. Yeah. I 791 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: don't eat duck either, so I don't know what a 792 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: duck taste like, Oh, duck's really good too, is it? Yeah? Yeah, 793 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: there's an eat anything I've spent time with. I understand 794 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: that's hypocritical for people that out there that are vegan, 795 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: So I get it. It's to me the email. Well, 796 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: the thing is, if you spend enough time with them, 797 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: they'll let their guard down, and that's when you pounce. 798 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: There's a Chinese restaurant actually called Pee King Gourmet in 799 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: Falls Church, Virginia that makes it a whole roast duck 800 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 1: and it is one of the best things you'll ever 801 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: eat in your entire life. Okay, I think it's called 802 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: Peking Gourmet. It might just be called Peeking Duck one 803 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: of the two. But it's Rember of the Christmas story. 804 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: I guess that's it. I mean we uh, I think 805 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: we should direct people to our I get Was it 806 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: a short stuff on the lawn ornaments? Yeah, yeah it was. 807 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: We did a whole short stuff on pink flamingo lawn 808 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: ornaments and it's a pretty cool story. So go seek 809 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: that out, is what I say. Uh, And there really 810 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: isn't anything else. And since Chuck said go seek that out, 811 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:05,280 Speaker 1: of course everybody do. That means it's time for a listener, Mayo. Okay, 812 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this sort of Laurn mystery solved. You 813 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: know the story of when I adopted my um my 814 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: buddy Lauren, who was no longer with this. He had 815 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: a silver back and that's when Tim Curry referred to 816 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: him as looking like a baboon. Right, So this is 817 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: solved by Sarah Patton. I think, uh nice things that 818 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: Sarah has to say about the show and Tim Curry. 819 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: And then that's Chuck mentioned that his silver back eventually 820 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: disappeared and it maybe think it could have been a 821 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: fever coat prior to birth. The kitten's coat is very 822 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: sensitive to heat, but MoMA cat has a fever during 823 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: pregnancy from an illness or prolonged stress could potentially affect 824 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: the pigments in her. Kittens spur. So a fever coat 825 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: is typically great or silver, and then it resolves when 826 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: it kittens around four months old, although it can take 827 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: up to a year. Even though the kittens pigment um 828 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 1: didn't fully develop while they were in the womb, there 829 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 1: coat is still written in their d n A. There's 830 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: no negative implications for our the kitten's future overall health 831 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: just a fun quirk when you're young. Wow, like when 832 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: you're born with a vestigial tail and it falls off 833 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 1: at age two. I guess so so that I think 834 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: that solves the mystery. Um. This is from Sarah Patton 835 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: and Sarah's Greyton knows a lot about cat and cat 836 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 1: rescue and is doing a lot of good work in 837 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: that realm awesome. Thanks a lot, Sarah. That is pretty cool. 838 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: You put that mystery to rest and we thank you 839 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: for it. How do you feel good now that it's 840 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: it's salved I love it. I need to tell Emily 841 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: about the Fever Coach school. Well, if you want to 842 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: be like Sarah and put some mystery to rest, we 843 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: love that kind of stuff. You can do it in 844 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: an email. 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