1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Happy Saturday, everybody. This episode is coming out on June tenth, 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: which commemorates the end of slavery in the United States. 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: The date comes from June nineteenth, sixty five, which is 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: when General Gordon Granger read General Orders Number three in Galveston, Texas, 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: and that read quote, the people of Texas are informed that, 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: in accordance with a proclamation from the Executive of the 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: United States, all slaves are free. At this point, slavery 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: had actually been outlawed in Texas under the Emancipation Proclamation 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: for almost two and a half years. And we've chosen 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: today's Saturday Classic and next week's in honor of June teenth. 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: It is our two parter on Harriet Tubman, which originally 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: came out on June and fifteen, And we have chosen 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: this episode because Tubman is such an example of how 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: much of the work of ending slavery came from enslaved 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: people themselves, in this case, liberating her her self and 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: other people, and fighting for the end of slavery nationwide. 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: At the top of this episode, we mentioned the announcement 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: that Harriet Tubman would be on a redesigned twenty dollar bill, 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: and while that was announced in it has gone through 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: a hole back and forth since then. A final timeline 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: for that has not been determined. Welcome to Stuff you 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: missed in History Class, A production of I Heart Radio 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Hello and welcomed the podcast. I'm Tracy Wilson. I'm Holly Frying. Holly. 24 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Do you know who We've gotten a lot of requests 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: talk about lately. Yes, but I'll let you say it, 26 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: Harriet Submas. So many requests we had all I mean, 27 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: we've already been getting a lot. They started well before 28 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: the announcement that she is going to be on the 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: new US twenty dollar bill. We also had another big 30 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: spike after the Drunk History episode about her. If you 31 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: don't mind lots of bleep swear words, that is quite funny. 32 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: I watched it three or four times working on this episode. 33 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Um So, most people are familiar with Harriet Tubman's involvement 34 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: in the Underground Railroad, but she also as people who 35 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: have watched that drug that Drunk History episode no, that 36 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: she was also a spy for the Union during the 37 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Civil War, among many other things. At the same time. Uh, 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: maybe more than anyone else I can think of in 39 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: American history. She has this near mythical reputation that makes 40 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: her kind of a tricky person to talk about. Everybody 41 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: has some tidbits of information, and some of that is 42 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: curate and some of them is not. Yeah, there's a 43 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: lot about her life and about slavery in the underground 44 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: railroad in general that people know with no in serious 45 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: air quotes, but it is really like it's really taken 46 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: for granted. But a lot of it is on somewhere 47 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: on a spectrum between that can't be substantiated and that 48 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: definitely did not happen. And a lot of this is 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: because for a long time, children's books really dominated the 50 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: work written about Harriet Tubman. We've talked about that phenomenon before, 51 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: how a lot of important figures, especially in Black history, 52 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: are the subjects of children's books and not serious academic 53 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: scholarship as much, which is frustrating. Uh. Even the books 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: for adults for a long time could uncritically repeated details 55 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: from these nineteenth century accounts of her life that were 56 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: definitely embellished, and really serious scholarly examination to try to 57 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: get a more accurate picture of Harriet Tubman's life and 58 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: work has been a lot harder to come by, and 59 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: overall a lot more recent than the things that sort 60 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: of set the standards of how we think about Harriet Tubman. So, 61 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: because there's so much to talk about, and because so 62 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: much of it requires some level setting. To be honest, 63 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: we are going to talk about Harriet Tubman's life and 64 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: work in two parts, and today's podcast is about her 65 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: work liberating enslaved people, many of them her family members, 66 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: via the Underground Railroad, and then in our next episode 67 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: we will talk about her Civil War work and her 68 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: life as a spy and what came after that. Because 69 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: there are so many misperceptions about the Underground Railroad and 70 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: the institution of slavery in the United States, we're going 71 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: to get into some of that context before we talk 72 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: about the details of Harriet Tubban's life. The use of unpaid, 73 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: unfree labor began long before the United States became an 74 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: independent nation. It was a big part of the economy 75 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: and the labor force almost from the moment Europeans started 76 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: trying to establish permanent colonies in North America. And we 77 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: know enslavement existed in North America before European arrival, and 78 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: there's an increasing body of historical research on enslavement of 79 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Native Americans by colonists as well, But all of that 80 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: is outside the scope of today's episode. Yeah, that is 81 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: one of the things people will right to try to 82 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: dispel talking about slavery, like slavery existed every way, are 83 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: not what we were talking about. So at first, this 84 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: system of unfree labor in the colonies was based on indenture. Basically, 85 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: people would pay their way from Europe to North America 86 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: through indentured servitude, which was essentially an agreement to work 87 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: without pay for a particular amount of time in exchange 88 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: for shelter and food and passage across the Atlantic Ocean. 89 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: Sometimes this was a choice people made. It was sometimes 90 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: under duress and sometimes not. It was people just wanted 91 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: to move and that was the only way they could 92 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: afford it, But other times it was a punishment that 93 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: they were sentenced to. Although the conditions indentured servants worked 94 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: under could be appalling, and there were definitely cases of 95 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: people dying before their indenture was over, this indenture had 96 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: some very specific differences when compared with chattel slavery. The 97 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: first and biggest was that there was an end date involved. 98 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: Indenture was not supposed to be a lifetime condition. Once 99 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: the indenture was over, that person was free to go 100 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: and was often granted some kind of compensation in the 101 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: form of supplies or land. Indentured servitude also wasn't hereditary 102 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: or tied to a person's race. As more colonists started 103 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: moving to North America, indentured servants included people from places 104 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: like England, Ireland, Scotland, Germany, and Africa. The first enslaved 105 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: Africans who arrived in North America landed in Virginia Colony 106 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: in sixteen nineteen, and the Dutch traded them to the 107 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: colonists as indentured servants. However, a number of social, economic, 108 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: and industrial factors led to the dominant system of unfree 109 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: labor in the colonies, gradually shifting from indentured servitude to 110 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: chattel slavery. These factors included uprisings and rebellions on the 111 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: part of indentured workers, the expense involved in contracting new 112 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: indentured servants as the old indenturs expired, and the ease 113 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: with which white indentured servants could blend in with the 114 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: rest of white society after escape from an indenture. There 115 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: were religious elements as well, In some cases, it was 116 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: socially acceptable to hold a non Protestant person in bondage, 117 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: but if that person converted, that was no longer the case. 118 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: Beginning in the mid sixteen hundreds, colonies started to pass 119 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: slave codes, which defined exactly what it meant to be 120 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: a slave. Many of these laws were written in terms 121 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: of race, so where whether they described slaves in general 122 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: or enslaved people of African descent specifically. These codes meant 123 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: that in a lot of places it became illegal for 124 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: an enslaved person to own property and weapons, to congregate, 125 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: to get married, to travel, and to learn to read 126 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: or write chattle. Slavery became codified as something that was lifelong, 127 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: It was hereditary based on whether a person's mother was enslaved, 128 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: and it was tied to African descent. When the Declaration 129 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: of Independence was issued in seventeen seventy six, slavery was 130 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: legal in all thirteen colonies. When the U s Constitution 131 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: was signed, it didn't include words slavery, but it did 132 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: include references to the Institution, including Article four, Section two, 133 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: Clause three, which specified that a person held in service 134 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: or labor in one state would not be discharged from 135 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: that service or labor if they escaped to another state. 136 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Then in to jump ahead just a little bit, Eli 137 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: Whitney invented the cotton gin. Cotton was already being grown 138 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: in the South, especially, and farming cotton was hugely labor intensive. 139 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: With the invention of the cotton gin, it was still 140 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: labor intensive, but it was a lot more lucrative because 141 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: the process of removing the seeds from the harvested cotton 142 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: became dramatically faster and easier. Consequence, consequently, the prevalence of 143 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: slavery in the American South increased immediately and dramatically in 144 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: response to how much easier it became to make a 145 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: lot of money growing cotton. At the same time, in 146 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: the North, slavery was on the wane, mostly because although 147 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: plenty of Northern people and businesses were profiting from slavery, 148 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: there wasn't a huge industry that was dependent on slave labor, 149 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: like cotton farming or large scale agriculture that was actually 150 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: being worked. There. Also present in the North was an 151 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: increasingly active movement for abolition, and while there were certainly 152 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: abolitionists in the South as well, the institution of slavery 153 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: was so entrenched in the South, that the movement was 154 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: all but invisible there. All of this history together means 155 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: that by the time Harriet Tubman was born a couple 156 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: of decades into the nineteenth century, many northern states had 157 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: either abolished slavery or had passed laws that were meant 158 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: to gradually in the practice within their own borders. The 159 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: idea that slavery should be abolished nationwide was at that 160 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: point still largely viewed as radical, even among people who 161 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: were advocating for its abolition. Within individual states and Southern states, 162 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: on the other hand, slavery was flourishing, and other industries 163 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: that were related to selling and managing and capturing escaped 164 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: slaves were thrown driving in the South as well. In 165 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: many border states, including Maryland, where Harriet Tubman was born 166 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: and grew up, slavery was still practiced, but often not 167 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: quite as entrenched, widespread, and regulated as it was farther south. 168 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: For the sake of comparison, in the middle of the 169 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: nineteenth century, enslaved people made up about percent of Maryland's population, 170 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: compared to fifty seven percent of South Carolina, of Mississippi, 171 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: forty percent of Louisiana, and forty four percent of Georgia. So, 172 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: in addition to having less of a distance to travel 173 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: to reach a free state, slaves escaping from border states 174 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: like Maryland were often traveling through territory that had fewer 175 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: resources devoted to maintaining and protecting the institution of slavery. 176 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: And this is where we get to the Underground Railroad, 177 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: which is a name that was applied to a loosely 178 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: collected network of people who were all working towards the 179 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: same end, which was to liberate slaves. The Underground Railroad 180 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: didn't have a formal organization or established leadership structure, and 181 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: it liberated people mainly from the border states, not from 182 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: the Deep South, as a lot of people may imagine. 183 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: And while our focus is really on Maryland today, a 184 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: lot of the Underground Railroad's work was really through territory 185 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: that was closer to the Mississippi River. It wasn't enough 186 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: for the Underground Railroad to guide people to a free state, 187 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,479 Speaker 1: though in seventeen ninety three, Congress had passed a Fugitive 188 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Slave Act, which was basically an enforcement clause for Article 189 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: for Section two of the Constitution, setting out how escaped 190 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: slaves could be captured and returned to the south. A second, 191 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,239 Speaker 1: even stricter, fugitive slave law would be passed in eighteen fifty, 192 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: about thirty years after Harriet Tubman's birth. So we don't 193 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: know precisely when people started to use the term underground 194 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: railroad to describe existing efforts to liberate enslaved people from bondage, 195 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: but it was appearing and writing by the middle of 196 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century. So we're going to talk about Harriet 197 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: Tubman's early life and how she became part of the 198 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: underground route after a brief break for a word from 199 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: a sponsor. So now we will get to Harriet Tubman's 200 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: life specifically, and unfortunately we don't have a lot of 201 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: detail about the earlier parts of it. While she was enslaved, 202 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: it was illegal for her to learn to read or write, 203 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: and if she did learn after she liberated herself, the 204 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: historical record doesn't reflect that. A lot of people think 205 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: she probably did not learn. Instead, she dictated her life 206 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: to people who were literate, and one of these people 207 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: was Sarah Hopkins Bradford, whose biographies of Tubman were definitely 208 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: filtered through her own lens and in some case. In 209 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: some cases we're specifically written for the purpose of helping 210 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: Tubman to raise money to support herself and other people, 211 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: so they were books written to sell. Also, Harriet Tubman 212 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: was herself an incredible storyteller who spun out compelling of 213 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: pockative and dramatic stories. So in many cases, once she 214 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: narrated her autobiography, she was telling stories that she had 215 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: told again and again for years. It's probable and really 216 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: even inevitable that these stories had been refined and embellished 217 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: along the way through her years of retellings. I mean, 218 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: if you tell the same joke at a party and 219 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: it's your go to if you tell it today, five 220 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: years from now, you're still telling it, You've probably changed 221 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: some things, and you probably don't remember. It's not necessarily 222 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: a conscious move right in your mind. That's how it happened. 223 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: Now we do know that she was born in Maryland, which, 224 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: as we said earlier, was at the time a slave state. 225 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: Her birth date is unknown, although it was probably within 226 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: a couple of years of eighteen twenty. Tubman's parents were 227 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: Harriet Green and Benjamin Ross, and Tubban's name at birth 228 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: seems to have been Arementa, and she was often called Minty. 229 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: She sticked the name Harriet later on in her life. 230 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: We don't know much about her relationship with her familyther 231 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: than that she did have several siblings and was charged 232 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: with caring for the ones who were younger than her 233 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: when she was still a child. We also know that 234 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: two older sisters were sold south. The family had some 235 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: religious instruction, probably Methodist, and religious observance was part of 236 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: their family and social life. Based on Harriett's later knowledge 237 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: of folk healing and herbal medicines, it's also likely that 238 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: they observed folk traditions passed down from her grandmother, who 239 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: was part of the Ashanti tribe. Tubman and many of 240 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: her family were owned by a man named Edward Broadest. 241 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: Tubben was often hired out, including a brief apprenticeship as 242 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: a weaver and work as a housemaider and nursemaid, but 243 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: a lot of her work involved manual labor, including working 244 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: with timber. While still in her adolescence, Tubman experienced a 245 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: head injury that led to her being disabled for the 246 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: rest of her life. An overseer or slave owner threw 247 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: a weight while trying to stop an escaping slave, and 248 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: it hit Tubman instead. The resulting injury led to what 249 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: seems to have been a form of narcolepsy or epilepsy, 250 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: which her biographers described as somnolence. She was basically prone 251 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: to periods of what sounds like seizures or unexpected periods 252 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: of sleep. There are also some people who theorized that 253 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: the reason she never learned to read was that this 254 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: head injury damaged the part of her brain that works 255 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: with literacy. So h totally unclear whether that was the 256 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: case or not, but that is a thing that people theorize. 257 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: This disability, along the with the fact that a lot 258 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: of her work involved heavy manual labor, might be one 259 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: of the reasons that she didn't marry John Tubman until 260 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: she was about twenty four, which was relatively late for 261 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: an enslaved woman living at the time. The Tubmans had 262 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: no children, and their relationship was kind of unusual, not 263 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: necessarily unusual in Maryland, but unusual as in a general sense, 264 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: because John Tubman was free and Harriet Tubman, his wife, 265 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: was actually another man's property. Harriet's efforts to free other 266 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: people started while she was still enslaved herself. In eighteen 267 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: forty five, about a year after her marriage, she paid 268 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: a lawyer five dollars to look into her suspicion that 269 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: her mother's enslavement was not legal, and it turned out 270 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: she was right. According to the will of her prior owner, 271 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: Tubman's mother should have been freed when she reached the 272 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: age of forty five. She had already been enslaved for 273 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: another eleven years when Tubman confirmed those suspicions. Nothing seems 274 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: to have come of this investigation, though, Tubman's father, who 275 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: had been freed in eighteen forty, legally purchased her mother 276 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: in eighteen fifty five, a full decade after Tubman's investigation 277 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: revealed that she was in fact being enslaved illegally. Yeah. 278 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: I went to a thing called History Camp that was 279 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: here in Boston a few weeks ago, and I watched 280 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: a several presentations that were about tracking down formally enslaved 281 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: people in New England and try trying to figure out 282 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: what their family histories where. And one of the rules, uh, 283 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: like it was sort of like the rules for doing 284 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: this kind of research. Chin it was dispelling misconceptions about 285 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: about enslavement, and one of them was people did not 286 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: necessarily follow the law, like people can't be like, well, 287 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: it was illegal to do that to a slave, people 288 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily follow the law. Clearly, Subban's mother was supposed 289 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: to have been free way before her husband legally bought 290 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: her as a way to set her free anyway. Edward 291 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: brought us died on March nine of eighteen forty nine, 292 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: and in his will he specified that his widow would 293 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: have quote use and hire of Tubman and any children 294 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: she had for the rest of her life, so that 295 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: Tubman could help raise his children. However, Tubman and the 296 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: rest of her family were really worried that instead some 297 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: of them might be sold to pay off debts or 298 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: settle estate fees, which was a common occurrence when a 299 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: slave owner died, possibly because of the potential threat of 300 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: being sold south. It was not long after this that 301 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: Tubman escaped. Later that same year, she and two or 302 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: three brothers left the plantation, although her brother soon turned 303 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: back and took her with them because they were afraid 304 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: of the dangers they would face in escaping, So when 305 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: Tubman struck out again, it was on her own. In 306 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: the earliest accounts of Tubman's escape, she had the help 307 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: of a sympathetic white woman. She's described in the earliest 308 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: biography of Tubman as quote a white lady who knew 309 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: her story and helped her on her way, and who 310 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: Tubman repaid for these efforts with giving her a quilt. However, 311 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: later biographers added, in one of the first fantastic embellishments 312 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: that has become tied to sort of everyone's collective memory 313 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: of Harriet's Hubman, that she had a vision that she 314 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: needed to follow the North Star. That probably an embellishment. 315 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: She did, however, talk later about feeling as though she 316 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: had been called by God to help people to freedom. 317 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: She made her way to Philadelphia, where she immediately began 318 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: working with the anti slavery community in the Underground Railroad. 319 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: And we were going to talk about all of that 320 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: after we paused another break from one of our fabulous sponsors. 321 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: So back to Harriet Tubman. When she escaped to Pennsylvania 322 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: in eighteen forty nine, she found work at a resort 323 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: to support herself, and she began making connections with the 324 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: anti slavery movement in the area. Soon she was working 325 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: with the Underground Railroad. By the time Harriet Tubman became 326 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: involved in the Underground Railroad, the idea that the entire 327 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: nation should abolish slavery, which, as we mentioned at the 328 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: top of the show, had been considered radical just thirty 329 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: thirty years before, was starting to gain some traction. An 330 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: organized abolition movement had been growing in the North for 331 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: a couple of decades, and by the time Harriet Tubman 332 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: reached Philadelphia, there were multiple anti slavery societies, including women's 333 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: anti slavery societies, operating there. There were also anti slavery 334 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: newspapers like will you Lloyd Garrison's Liberator, which was established 335 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: in eighteen thirty one, and newspapers run by Frederick Douglas. 336 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: The movement for ambolition had largely originated with escaped slaves 337 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: and free African Americans, and as it grew throughout the 338 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: early mid eighteen hundreds, it also attracted more white participants, 339 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: particularly Quakers, who objected to slavery on religious grounds. Most 340 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: Likely Harriet Tubman's introduction to the organized anti slavery movement 341 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: in general and the Underground Road in particular, came by 342 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: a William Still, who was a free black man who 343 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: would later self publish a book on the Underground rail Road, 344 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: or it might have come from Lucretia or James Mott 345 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: Tubman started making trips back into Maryland to try to 346 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: free enslaved people, beginning in December of eighteen fifty when 347 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: she went to Baltimore to bring back her niece and 348 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: two children. Her niece's husband, who was free, helped plan 349 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: this escape. Another trip to Baltimore may have followed, but 350 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: the historical record on that one is a little bit spottier. 351 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: In the fall of eighteen fifty one, Tubman went back 352 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: to Dorchester County, where she had grown up to try 353 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: to get her husband, who was free as we said before, 354 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: but he had stayed behind in Maryland when Tubman escaped. However, 355 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: when she got there, she learned that he had married 356 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: someone else after she left. Marriages involving enslaved people really 357 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: had no legal standing, so from a legal standpoint, his 358 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: marriage to Harriet was not really a barrier to him 359 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: marrying someone else. After she left, for about a decade, 360 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: Tubman continued to make trips into Maryland to help people 361 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: liberate themselves, many of the members of her family, because 362 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: it wasn't enough to make it to a free state. 363 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: She also established a base of operations in British North America, 364 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: which is now Canada. She secured some land in St. Catharine's, 365 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: which was across a suspension bridge from Buffalo, New York, 366 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: near Niagara Falls, and to get there she had to 367 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: guide people from Maryland to Philadelphia and then into New 368 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: York through Albany, Syracuse, and Rochester before crossing the bridge. 369 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: Getting started in St. Catharine's wasn't easy. After having liberated themselves, 370 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: most of the people Tubmen guided there had virtually nothing 371 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: to live on or it used to make a living. 372 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: It's like a while before Tubman could establish a real 373 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: foothold there, and even after she did, money continued to 374 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: be a real problem. According to the letters of Thomas Garrett, 375 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: by eighteen fifty five, Harriet Tubman had successfully returned to 376 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: her old neighborhood four times and had liberated seventeen family 377 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: members and friends. By eighteen sixty that number had grown 378 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: to eight or nine forays into slave territory. The grand 379 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: total is probably somewhere in the vicinity of ten to 380 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: thirteen missions, leading seventy to eighty people to freedom herself 381 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: and instructing fifty or so others how to escape on 382 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: their own. One of these trips was to bring back 383 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: her parents, who were elderly by that point, after her 384 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: father was caught sheltering escaping slaves. After she returned with 385 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: her parents, Tubmen resettled in all the New York that 386 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: maintained her ties to St. Catharine's because her parents just 387 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: were not happy living in Canada. Harriet Tubman's last trip 388 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: into Maryland was an attempt to bring out a woman 389 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: described as a sister, who sadly died before the trip 390 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: could actually be made. The journey was documented in the 391 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: letters of Martha Coffin right, and some elements of that 392 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: letter are now firmly rooted in what people quote no 393 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: again in in those air quotes about the underground Railroad. 394 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: For example, Tubman and the seven people she was guiding 395 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: used songs not to convey coded information, which has become 396 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: a popular part of underground Railroad war, but to help 397 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: Tubman find the rest of the group after she had 398 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: left them to forage for food, and for them to 399 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: signal back to her that it was safe to approach. 400 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: These missions that Harriet Tubman took between Maryland and Canada 401 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: really illustrate how the underground Railroad really operated. A lot 402 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: of people envisioned the underground railroad as being a firmly 403 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: established network of mostly white conductors who were secreting enslaved 404 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: quote cargo from deep in the South through a series 405 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: of fixed hiding places and homes and barns and other 406 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: buildings known as stations. So you would go from one 407 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: station to the next one day at a time, and 408 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: our collective imaginations, every stop is planned in advance and 409 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: as part of a regularly used route from one place 410 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: to another. And while there were white people involved in 411 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: the underground Railroad, particularly among Quakers, as we mentioned earlier, 412 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: and there were definitely people who repeatedly sheltered escaping slaves 413 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: in their homes or other buildings, in reality, the whole 414 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: thing worked a lot more like what Harriet Tubman was 415 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: doing here. They were planned, but they were also improvisational. 416 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: These trips were, you know, mainly into border states, frequently 417 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: carried out by free or escaped African Americans, traveling by 418 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: night and hiding by day, who made use of connections 419 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: they had and roots that they knew to do it. 420 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: Contrary to popular mythology, Harriet Tubman did not invent the 421 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: underground Railroad, and the number of people that she guided 422 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: to freedom before the Civil war was much lower than 423 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: the three hundred that is often cited. However, none of 424 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: this should take away from what she was doing. Harriet 425 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: Tubman's liberty and even her life were at enormous risk 426 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: every time she returned to to slave territory, and when 427 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: she was in free States in the company of escaping 428 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: slaves who were also putting themselves at enormous risk by 429 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: trying to escape. Really, she was jeopardizing her own life 430 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: and safety any time she was in the United States 431 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: at all, because she had escaped rather than being legally freed. 432 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: There was also at times of bounty for her capture. 433 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: Although the number forty dollars that's routinely specified is inflated, 434 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: it was probably either twelve hundred or twelve thousand dollars. 435 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: There's some debate about the existence of that last zero. 436 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: By the late eighteen fifties and into the eighteen sixties, 437 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: Harriet Tubman had become well known and well respected in 438 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: New England's anti slavery circles. Her work guiding escaped slaves 439 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: was at first a secret, but became more widely known 440 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: in the years just before the Civil War. She earned 441 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: the nickname Moses, and at anti slavery meetings. People spoke 442 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: often of the escaped slave who had returned to slave 443 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: territory again and again to liberate others. The Civil War 444 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: began in eighteen sixty one, which really changed the nature 445 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: of Harriet's work. So that is where we are going 446 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: to pause to pick up the next time. Pay so 447 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: much for joining us on this Saturday, since this episode 448 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: is out of the archive. 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