1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty and he 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Yetty. 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: It's three am Saturday morning in downtown Los Angeles, a 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: city plagued with street takeovers like this one right in 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: front of the home of the Los Angeles Lakers. Hundreds 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: of people block an intersection as drivers performed dangerous donuts 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: while others throw fireworks into the intersection. Angry neighbors shoot 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: paintballs that cars parked along the street belonging to the spectators. 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Los Angeles. A lot of people in certain cities. 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: I think Chicago is certainly LA Not as much San 13 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Francisco now since they voted in a new mayor and 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: got their act together. But Oakland, various places are like, yeah, 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: I kind of see some of your stuff about DC. 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: It seems like it's worse here. Is there anything Trump 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: can do about here? And he talked yesterday about going 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: into other cities. There's no, he doesn't have the legal 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: authority to do that. But uh, yeah, if you're gonna 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: if you're worried about big cities, they got problems with 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: crime and in street drug addicts. 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: I don't think DC ranks at the top. 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: Well it's in the top five actually, but there are 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: much bigger and more dangerous fish to fry as well. 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I agree completely, but I don't know sending the FEDS in. 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, back to. 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: The street takeovers in LA. 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: If you've never seen this, I mean it's like a massive, 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: multi multi lane intersection with a crowd of hundreds of 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: people around, and the guy's doing the smoking tires, wild doughnuts, 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: barely avoiding hitting the crowd, and the cops don't dare intercede. 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: There's too many people, too much wildness, so mobs just 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: take over the city streets for a certain amount of time. 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Roll on, Michael, and. 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: They aren't the only ones fed up. 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: My entire office is absolutely laser focused on going after 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: these illegal street takeovers. 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: New Los Angeles County District Attorney Nathan Hackman says he 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: will pursue consequences for the drivers, including reckless driving charges 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: in up to ninety days in jail, as well as 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: the spectators, threatening jail time in a five hundred dollars 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: fine just for watching. 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 4: If you want to go ahead and be one of 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: these drivers in illegal straight takeovers. If you want to 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: be spectators in illegal streight takeovers, we are going to 46 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: hold you accountable. If you're a driver and you want 47 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: to see that car crushed, literally crushed as we impound it, 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: go ahead and test us. 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: I don't know I feel about the spectator thing. 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: If one of these broke out where I am, I 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: might want to stand there and watch some people spin around. 52 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: I get a five hundred taket front. 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a constitutional issue with that. There is 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: probably a way around it. But the this through the 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: drivers obviously. I mean, you got a deadly weapon there, 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: and I would think you get a reckless driving. You 57 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: can't afford your insurance anymore. You're done driving right right 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: one final clip eighty two, please Michael from the Fabulous 59 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: Bill Malugin of Fox News. 60 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: These street takeovers have turned deadly before. In twenty twenty two, 61 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: nursing student Elizah Wahaka was killed on Christmas Day in 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: South LA when a car doing donuts lost control and 63 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: hit her. The driver was just sentenced last week to 64 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: thirteen years in prison. 65 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Nathan Hawkman's a hero. 66 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: He's trying to clean up la and under the horrific 67 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: damage done by the Marxist George Gascone and one hundred 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: percent in support. Don't crush the cars, sell them. And 69 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: my only other quibble was the one Jack brought up. 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: There's a bit of a constitutional issue. 71 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: With all right? 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: Am I there from the beginning and I'm hooting and 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: hollering and rooting them on? Or did I just wander 74 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: by and say what the hell is going on here? 75 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm watching? 76 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to whip up my phone and document 77 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: this and send it to my local you know, congressman 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: or whatever. The other practical difficulty of this, which I 79 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: find interesting, is that the mobs have figured out in 80 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: watching sports, celebrations or you know, a number of different incidents, 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: George Floyd, riots, what have you, that if we bring 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: enough people, the number of personnel in the force it 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: would take to quell what we're doing, looks too bad 84 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: for society to have a stomach enough to do it. 85 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: That sentence was a bit of a train wreck. But 86 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying. 87 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: If we get big enough, they don't have the guts 88 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: to get big enough to stop the lawlessness. So the 89 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: only thing we need to do is bring mass. We 90 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: need to bring a lot of people. That's called a 91 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: breakdown of society. So what that's called with Hamas rally, 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: we're all wearing cafias as Columbia University educated jackasses. We 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: got too many of us. The cops won't stop us, 94 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: so let's start smashing. Politically, I think it's working the 95 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: other direction. I think people are seeing this on TV 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: or where we catch it and uh and thinking this 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: is a breakdown of civilization. I'm voting for whatever party 98 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: wants to end this. Speaking of which, like the whole 99 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: Trump taken over DC thing that I'm not that interested in. 100 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: I'm interested in the politics of it. 101 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: Fox just had a peace on mainstream Democrats not happy 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: with messaging around this. And it's like I quoted Mika 103 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: Brazinski on MSNBC yesterday morning, she said, I think this 104 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: is a political loser for Democrats to claim that DC 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: is fine and Trump shouldn't do this. I don't think 106 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: that's the way most people feel they had to. I 107 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: was listening to NPR and they had they were quoting 108 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: people on the street, and I'm sure they selected these 109 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: people carefully. Some people in the street, I don't think 110 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: it's right. It's like Hitler or whatever. And I thought, 111 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: I gotta believe the vast majority of people in neighborhoods 112 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: where they got lots of crime are perfectly happy with 113 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: seeing some National guardsmen down there making sure they can 114 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: making sure they can walk to their car without getting 115 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: attacked or their car stolen, right right? 116 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: Can you imagine? 117 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: And it's I you know, having raised two daughters, I'm 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: a lot better at this than I used to be. 119 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: Can you imagine. 120 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: Being a woman and the feeling of vulnerability as you 121 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: have to walk toward a handful of young tufts and 122 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: you just don't know what they're going to do. That's 123 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: a terrible That is animal fear in your heart. You 124 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: got some National guardsmen strolling alongside you, zero fear. That's 125 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: pretty blanket appealing. I mean, if you're if there's a 126 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: National guardsman there and your main concern is I don't 127 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: think it's constitutional what the president is doing, as opposed 128 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: to oh cool, I don't have to worry about getting 129 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: a raped while I walk to my car, then you 130 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: are really an ideologue, you know. Speaking of which, guys, 131 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: how hard would it be to grab yesterday's clip fifty 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: eight for me. 133 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: Fifty eight yesday. That was a good clip, man, I 134 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: tell you I should have played it three times. 135 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: John Roberts Fox, who's talking to Jim Kessler, who's a 136 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: political activist, dude, but part of Third Way Again. 137 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 2: I think the point is true. I think there. 138 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: I think mainstream democrats are smart and seeing the average 139 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: person reacts to a crackdown on crime as a good thing, 140 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: not as an overreach. In general, there's just no doubt 141 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, they need to come to an agreement 142 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: on that, because you got guys like this in the 143 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: mainstream media. 144 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 5: But do you feel safe here? I feel safe in 145 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 5: this city. I live in a neighborhood because I'm not 146 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 5: overy my shoulder every day. Well maybe you look over yourself. 147 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 5: But I'll tell you something. Here are two things that 148 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 5: could be done to make this city safer. One point 149 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 5: one billion dollars was stolen from DC in the last 150 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 5: budget bill. Give us that money back. We are down 151 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 5: four hundred police officers from last from last gear o 152 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 5: cash and nine hundred from our peak because stealing our 153 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 5: money away, so let's got our looks nothing to do 154 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 5: with defunding the police. No, No, it had nothing to 155 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 5: do with defunding the police. It had to be taking 156 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 5: our money away, our taxpayer dollars here. If people are 157 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 5: afraid to come to DC, go to Disney World, get fat, 158 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: eat French fries. 159 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: I don't care. I've lived here thirty seven years. I'm 160 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: not afraid. 161 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: I live in the city. 162 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of this city. 163 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 5: If you're afraid, go ahead, leave your fear someplace else. 164 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: Wow. Will never win another election. Jim Kessler, you are 165 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: a fool of You're like the King Kong fools number one. 166 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: There's no problem. 167 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: I feel safe and it's dangerous because they've defunded us 168 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: and the police. But it's not defund the police because anyway, 169 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: it's safe here. You don't feel safe, go to Disneyland, 170 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: eat Prince Rise, and get fat. 171 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: I just saw. 172 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: I just saw ancient Chris Matthews on MSNBC. He is 173 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: a mainstream Democrat saying these Democrats who are walking around 174 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: claiming DC is not scary or dangerous are just full 175 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: of crap. Yeah yeah wow. Final note. On August the fifth, 176 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: which was the day Donald Jay threatened a federal law 177 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: enforcement takeover in DC, first, the city quietly settled a 178 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: lawsuit from a former police sergeant who accused her superiors 179 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: plural of deliberately misclassifying certain offenses to make crime stats 180 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: look low. Court records show internal emails, depositions, phone call 181 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: transcripts from the suit corroborate the accusations, raising questions over 182 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: police department data. The mainstream media outlets have consistently cited 183 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: to contend that Trump's takeover is unnecessary. The crime misclassification 184 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: scheme laid out in the suit centers on two offenses, 185 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: assault and theft. The suit provides examples of knife attacks 186 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: typically categorized as assault with a dangerous weapon of felony 187 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: offense included in violent crime stats, but those were classified 188 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: as simple assault, a misdemeanor that they do not include 189 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: in the stats. Emails and depositions introduced as exhibits in 190 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: the case also show that police leaders explicitly instructed their subordinates, 191 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: all of them, to classify certain theft cases as quote, 192 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: taking property without right, a lesser offense than shoplifting or 193 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: theft that does not appear in DC's crime stats at all. 194 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: It's a good lord, the dishonesty. 195 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: And like I've been saying for days, I just when 196 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: I hear crime stats, I turned to something else. I 197 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: just assume I'm being lied to by somebody about something. 198 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: I wish we could figure that out. Yeah, some sort 199 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: of uniform standards. But yeah, so how many times I'm 200 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: asking you, good people, how many times. 201 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: Did you hear this is totally unnecessary crimes down thirty 202 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: percent in DC? Utterly fiction. 203 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it accompanied every single story I heard about it 204 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: all weekend long, Right, what's a smart Alec got into 205 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: that conversation with my son yesterday and uh Russia Ukraine. 206 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: More importantly, Trump pootin in that whole summit, got some 207 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: new information on that, according to reporting from the Wall 208 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: Street Journal, a bunch of stuff on the ways. 209 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: Stay here. I forgot to tell you what I wanted. 210 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Michael, I'm sorry. 211 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: This is a really complete breakdown in the show mechanics. 212 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 213 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 6: I've got a billion dollar document in my hands because 214 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 6: Missus Trump is seeking one billion dollars in damages if 215 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 6: we don't take the video down and if Hunter here 216 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 6: doesn't issue a formal apology to Missus Trump. So now 217 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 6: we're here maybe to give you the platform to apologize 218 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 6: to the first lady for your statements that you made 219 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 6: about her possible connection to Jeffrey Epstein. 220 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: That's not going to happen, Hunter Biden, responding to the 221 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: billion dollar lawsuit from Milania. Trump f that really, he said, 222 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: So that story, you know, you're both lovely folks, but 223 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: kind of peripheral to the actual problems the nation's dealing 224 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: with right now. 225 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: So can you settle this on your own? 226 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: I think perhaps the biggest story in the world is 227 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: the Trump Putin summit tomorrow, because really big things could 228 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: come out of that depending on. 229 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: The direction it goes, no doubt about it. 230 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: And man, one thing about listening to so I listened 231 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: to this podcast from the Telegraph in London, and they 232 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: have the more European view of things than we're getting 233 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: in the United States. And they talk regularly about if 234 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Putin moves on eastern European countries, you know, the Baltic 235 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: States or whatever, and how Europe will react. I mean, 236 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: they hold that out as a serious possibility, like Putin 237 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: thinking NATO's not going to come. 238 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: To the defense of Latvia. He's not, which he might 239 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: be right about. 240 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't know any who more on that later, Perhaps 241 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: if Joe Biden had said to Hunter Biden at some point, 242 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: don't be a smart alec. Hunter Biden wouldn't ended up 243 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: the disgrace that he is. I said this to my 244 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: son many times over the years. I think they must 245 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: have taken it out of context what it must have meant, 246 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: because they never have said this in the past. But 247 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: my oldest son said to me to today, what is 248 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: a smart alec? 249 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: Anyway? 250 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: It is not a term you hear very often. You 251 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: gotta admit in the modern world, I am one hundred one. 252 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred and five years old, and so I 253 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: use old timey terms like I'm wearing a felt hat 254 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: and it's nineteen twenty eight. 255 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: Bye cracky. 256 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: But I asked Chad gpt In, it's actually kind of 257 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: an interesting story. This guy named Alexander Hoge was a 258 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: con man in the eighteen hundreds. Alexander is an alec. 259 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: He and his wife ran a scam targeting men who 260 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: were looking for prostitutes in the eighteen forties. My wife 261 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: would lure the victim into a room and while they 262 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: were distracted, alex Hogue Alec Hoague would rob them. Hoag 263 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: bragged to the police about his cleverness, even making deals 264 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: with corrupt officers to split the profits and keep the 265 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: thing going. 266 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 2: Wow. 267 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: Eventually he got caught and the police started using his 268 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: name sarcastically to describe someone who thought he was too 269 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: clever for his own good. Smart Alec entered the wider 270 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: American slang by the eighteen eighteen hundreds to mean and 271 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: know it all, or a wisecracker, or somebody who thinks 272 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: they're so dang smart and they're a bunch of GPT 273 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: gave me links to a whole bunch of newspaper articles 274 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: from the eighteen hundreds where they would use smart Alec 275 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: in quotes to refer to the sky, and then it 276 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: just caught on. 277 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: I wow. I think it's just. 278 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: Interesting that things like that catch on and are used forever, 279 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: and we use them without knowing the background. I've been 280 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: called a smart Alec, I have called others so smart 281 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: alec my whole life without everythinking one of what it is, 282 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: and it did and it still works. 283 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: Right right, and occasionally than meaning mutates yeah as well. 284 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's funny, because I usually have I'm usually 285 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: curious about that sort of thing. It never occurred to 286 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: me to look into that one. That's a great backstory. 287 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: I know you got crime, you got sex, you got corruption. 288 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: That's good. 289 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: And I wasn't particularly accusing my son of luring horny 290 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: businessmen into his room to steal from them while they. 291 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: Thought they were going to get sex for money. 292 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: I would hope not need to keep a little tighter 293 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: rein on the household if that's going on. Oh my god, Yeah, craziness. 294 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: Oh speaking of a sex and crime and that sort 295 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: of in prostitutes in the rest of it. I guess 296 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: there's a new Charlie Sheen documentary out. We got to 297 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: play you a little chunk of that one. Oh, we 298 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: were talking before the show. America needs a Charlie Sheen 299 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: story right now. We need a celebrity that we focus 300 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: on every day for a couple of weeks or months, 301 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: doesn't actually mean anything, no greater significance. We're all kind 302 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: of into it and talking about it. It's just a 303 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, a bonding moment, outspoken, drug crazed, hooker loving. 304 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: Video post. 305 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: Just you know, just something like that. There were there 306 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: were good times, there were better times. 307 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: What'd you say, Charlie winning anyone? 308 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 7: Oh? 309 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, winning, that's where that came from. You remember that 310 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: that's good cash for he was. He was the first 311 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: person I ever heard used troll and I never I 312 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: didn't understand what he was talking about the time trolls, 313 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: these damn trolls, and he was was you know, we 314 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: now now we know what trolls means, but I I 315 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: didn't at the time. 316 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: Fools and trolls. 317 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: I remember whatever year that was predicting on a Friday 318 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: that he would be dead by the time we came 319 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: back to work on Monday, and he is not. 320 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: He lived through it. 321 00:16:54,440 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: Uh, high stakes meeting between Trump and Putin tomorrow. As 322 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: has been pointed out on a bunch of people, Putin 323 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: has punked like four presidents in a row. Can we 324 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: put an end to that role for Putin tomorrow? I 325 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: sure hope, So get a lot on that coming up. 326 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: I hope you can stay here, arm. 327 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: Strong and Getty. 328 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 8: If the first one goes okay, we'll have a quick 329 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 8: second one. I would like to do it almost immediately, 330 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 8: and we'll have a quick second meeting between President Putin 331 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 8: and President Zelenski and myself if they'd like to have 332 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 8: me there, And that would be a meeting where maybe 333 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 8: it could be absolutely work. But the first meeting will 334 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 8: not work that out. Certain great things can be gained 335 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 8: in the first It's going to be a very important meeting, 336 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 8: but it's setting the table for the second meeting. I 337 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 8: think the second meeting. If the second meeting takes place, now, 338 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 8: that may be no second meeting because if I feel 339 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 8: that it's not appropriate to have it because I didn't 340 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 8: get the answers that we have to have, then we're 341 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 8: not going to have a second meeting. 342 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Man, the whole ball of axe on this thing is 343 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: is is Trump actually done with believing Putin as a decent, 344 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: reasonable person or not the whole That's the whole ball 345 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: of axe, I would agree, and or I would put 346 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: it more broadly, is Trump able to see through whatever 347 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: manipulation Putin brings to the table. I've heard a bunch 348 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: of people say recently, you know, and you know how 349 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: something things catch on Somebody says something and then everybody 350 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: repeats it, and whether it's true like the taco thing I. 351 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: Mean, right or herd animals the media. 352 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: But I've heard a bunch of people say, listen lately 353 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: that he he he tends to believe the last person 354 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: in there that he talked to so you know, he'll 355 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: talk to somebody think oh, you're absolutely right, and they'll 356 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: be going that way, and then I'll talk to another 357 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: person with a different point of view and say a right, 358 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: and that that's where he is then and I and 359 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: if that is true, I hope he doesn't go from 360 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: where he is now talking to all these European leaders 361 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: in Zelensky to being in a room with Putin and 362 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: starting to think, oh, you got a really good point. 363 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: Ukraine was, you know. 364 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: Part of Russia for a very long time, and so 365 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, historically it seems like it probably ought to 366 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: be a part of Russia. 367 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I certainly hope not. 368 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal reporting today, which is really important, 369 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: Trump told his European peers yesterday he wouldn't negotiate territorial issues, 370 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: saying that Ukraine must discuss that directly with Russia. That's 371 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: according to German Chancellor Frederick Mertz, who initiated the meeting 372 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: they had yesterday. So that was good news for people 373 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: like me, people like Zelenski, who thought Trump might go 374 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: in there and wheel and deal in land without asking anybody. 375 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just read a. 376 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: Related piece about how Putin will say, well, I tell 377 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: you what, but we'll just take that fifty square miles 378 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: over there. You guys can have that fifty square miles 379 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: over there, and that's a square deal, and that Trump, 380 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, might fall for that. They were worried, but 381 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: they pointed out like, for instance, Putin really wants Ukraine 382 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: to seed all of the Donetsk o blots. 383 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: Okay, easy for you to say. 384 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: Notably, he wants parts of that region that Ukraine still controls, 385 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: and he's. 386 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: Willing to swap him straight up for that land over there, for. 387 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: Instance, less vital areas Russia now controls in Krsan and Zapharijia. 388 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: Why Well, because Ukraine. 389 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: Created what essentially is a thirty one mile fortress belt 390 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: of heavily fortified cities, towns, and defensive embattlements in Donetsk, 391 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: which the Russians have been trying to break through since 392 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen years and years of effort. They cannot break 393 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: that line, and Institute for the Study War said they'd 394 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: have to try for several more years to break through 395 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: on the current trend. 396 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: And so Putin's thinking. 397 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll just give up a bunch of 398 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: non critical lands for this critical land. That opens the 399 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: door for me to take over even more right, because 400 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: the ceasefire is going to be temporary ish and potent 401 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: and his sort are geniuses at inventing pretexts to violate ceasefires. 402 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: They fired on us first, etc. Look at our four 403 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: soldiers that are dead. Oh that's weird. They have Russian 404 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: bullets in their back anyway. Yeah, they just killed four 405 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: of our guys in spite of the ceasefires. So we're 406 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: going to go through this line we've created through the 407 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: negotiations and attack. Well, those pretexts only work if you 408 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: got a willing partner to go along with them, which 409 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: has happened in the past with all of Europe and 410 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: the US presidents. 411 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: Hopefully NATO wouldn't go for that sort of thing again, 412 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: I would hope. 413 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: But so Trump said there would be consequences but didn't 414 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: elaborate yesterday. There would be harsh consequences if Putin doesn't 415 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: agree to a ceasefire, and then said this. 416 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting. 417 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: You meet with Vladimir Putin Friday in Alaska. Yeah, I 418 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: believe you can convince him to stop targeting civilians in Ukraine. 419 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 9: Well, I'll tell you what I've had that conversation with him. 420 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 9: I've had a lot of good conversations with him. Then 421 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 9: I go home and I see that a rocket hit 422 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 9: a nursing home or a rocket hit an apartment building, 423 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 9: and people are linked dead in the streets. 424 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: So I guess the. 425 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 8: Answer to that is no, because I've had this conversation. 426 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 10: I want to end the war. It's Biden's war, but 427 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 10: I want to end it. I'll be very proud to 428 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 10: end this war along with the five other wars I ended. 429 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 10: But I guess the answer to that is probably no, 430 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 10: because I would have had a good conversation with Vladimir. 431 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: I knew him very well. I got along with him great. 432 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 6: Actually we had the Russia. 433 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 10: I had to go through the Russia Russia hoax. 434 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: I don't know what to take from that. Do you 435 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: think you can convince Troop and Putin to stop targeting civilians? No, 436 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't think I can. I hope he a threat 437 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: of something terrible enough to determ right. That was the 438 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: quote from George Schultz that I was mentioning the other day, 439 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: one of the most famous negotiators from the eighties, back 440 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: during the Cold War. These things, unless you got one 441 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: side willing to capitulate. You need some sort of power 442 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: to force the negotiation to happen. And what is that power? 443 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: Right? 444 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: That was the great, great fault of Obama and Biden 445 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: to a large extent, and plenty of others. They think 446 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: that intellect and conversation and cooperation and meetings around tables 447 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: can achieve things that only power achieves. 448 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: They're naive. Well, they're so self regarding. 449 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: There's such egomaniacs, so convinced of their own persuasive powers 450 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: and intellect that they think, I'm gonna, you know, I'm 451 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: going to ignore all of human history where it was 452 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: just you know, the strong will do what they will, 453 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: the week will do what they must. Check with me 454 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: in five thousand years unless AI robots have eaten us all, 455 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: and that will still. 456 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: Be true, right. 457 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: And Putin will back down if he's going to lose 458 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: something where something that he doesn't want is gonna happen 459 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of European troops, or he's gonna, 460 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, be absolutely devastating economically, economically or whatever. 461 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. It's an interesting place we are right 462 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: now in the politics. 463 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: I was watching MSNBC today and Joe Scarborough was talking 464 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: about he liked the idea of Trump saying demanding a ceasefire, 465 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: you get a ceasefire, and then you and you say 466 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna help rebuild Ukraine, and the United States and 467 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: Europe gets people in there right away helping build Ukraine, 468 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: and Trump is able to say people God, I'd say, 469 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: and Trump is able to say, look, we got us 470 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: workers there. You start bombing Ukraine, you're attacking the United States. Yeah, 471 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: that was Joe Scarborough and MSNB he suggesting that, So, hey, Joe, 472 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: welcome back. Where we are in the politics of this 473 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. Yeah, I would agree completely, how interesting? 474 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: So my you know, we could talk about this all 475 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: day and I'm sure there'll be plenty more and if 476 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: you have any more clips you want to play, great. 477 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: But my final thought on this is that when you're negotiating, 478 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: you have to understand one of the most important things 479 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: you can possibly do. And those of you who are 480 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: old hands at this, I apologize for telling you something 481 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: you already know. But the one thing you absolutely have 482 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: to do is understand the other side, and understand the 483 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: other sides cost benefit analysis, their priorities, what they're willing 484 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: to pay, what their goals. 485 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: Are, because if you look at. 486 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: Putin's cost benefit analysis, the benefit he is seeking is 487 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: the reconquest of the great Soviet Empire. And if that 488 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: is the benefit to what you were doing, you would 489 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: endure enormous costs. And I hope Trump understands that you 490 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: can't say, look, we'll sanction your oil and Putin's like 491 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: that will slow us somewhat in restoring the grandeur of 492 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: the Soviet Empire. 493 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 494 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a monumental goal, so it could be 495 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: difficult to stop him without some pretty monumental costs. Some 496 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: of the reporting is that Trump is hell bent on ceasefire. 497 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. He's going to go in there 498 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: before we get to any of this other stuff. There 499 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: needs to be a ceasefire. And if he figures out 500 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: in two minutes, as he said the other day, that 501 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: Putin has no interest in it, well, here's a Senator 502 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz on. 503 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 11: That there's a very real chance President Trump will get 504 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 11: up and leave if Putin refuses to concede anything. That's 505 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 11: exactly what Ronald Reagan did in Raykovic with Gorbachev, and 506 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 11: it's what led to winning the Cold War. We will 507 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 11: end the war in Ukraine, but we will do so 508 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 11: through a strong president and a strong commander in. 509 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if Ted Cruz has any inside this 510 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: is just what he wishes would happen. But I hope 511 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: that that's what happens. That is that if Trump goes 512 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: in there and Putin has no interest in a ceasefire, okay, 513 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: we're done here. 514 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: I just hope Trump has. 515 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: A team of, you know, negotiation experts, although Trump has 516 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: done plenty of himself, but and psychologists and like professional poker. 517 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: Players, and I don't know who else. 518 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 7: Professional poker players, or like professors of logic or whatever 519 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 7: who can say all right, or chess masters who can say, 520 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 7: all right, I see what Putin's. 521 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Doing chess, because he will. It's actually there's no tea 522 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: at the end of Michael of Chess. There's really not 523 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: check it out. 524 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: Anyway. 525 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: You need to go in knowing with certainty Putin will 526 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: be trying to manipulate you, not negotiate with you, manipulate 527 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: with you. Just you've got to know that in your soul. 528 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: Trump takes in a lot of mainstream media and there 529 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: are a ton of people talking about him. Will he 530 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: get played by Putin, punked by Putin, or whatever. The 531 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: most easily butt hurt man in the history of the 532 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: world surely knows that and is, like I said earlier, 533 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: treat him like you treated Ran Paul on the debate stage. 534 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: That's what I want to see. Put in your mind. 535 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: Put Rosie O'donald's head on Putin's body and talk to 536 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: him like that. Now you're talking. So final note, and 537 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: this is so interesting. We talked about this during hour 538 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: one of the show briefly, but it could be one 539 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: of the pivotal moments in the history of Ukraine and Europe, 540 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: or one of the pivotal factors. Is the fact that 541 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: Alexander Stubb, the president of Finland, is a really, really 542 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: good golfer, and he and Trump bonded during a visit 543 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: to mar A Lago, really hit it off, played golf together, 544 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: and Trump has and look, I'm a golf freak, and 545 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: I think Trump's tendency to like rank people based on 546 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 1: their prowess at the game is weird, okay, But Stub 547 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: is a really good player, and Trump really likes him 548 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: and he really respects him. And oh, by the way, Finland, 549 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: which has been at the receiving end of Russian slash 550 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: Soviet viciousness and bloodshed and conquest for a very very 551 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: long time. And the Finns are tough suns up bitches. 552 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: The president of Finland has now got Trump's ear when 553 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 1: it comes to talking about Russia and Putin. If it had, 554 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: if you know what, if freaking Macrone of France was 555 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: a really good stick, might be a very different situation, 556 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, or whoever's in charge of Spain. They don't 557 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: even know who's in charge in Spain anyway, happens to 558 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: be the fin who's a good stick that could change history, 559 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: which is crazy. 560 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm thinking Emmanuel Macron not a long ball hitter. 561 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: M No, I'm thinking maybe maybe wears shorts, maybe wears 562 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: sports if I'm playing, if I'm playing best ball with 563 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: him as my partner, all drive you put and make sandwiches. Mmm, 564 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: you're you're wearing pink again? Looks looks good. 565 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: Wow. Traffic stereotypes. That was That was to toxic masculine. 566 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: It really was. 567 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: That was sickening. Yeah, I apologize. I don't know what 568 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: got into me. 569 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: Manosphere just dripping with manosphere. Oh yeah, it's kidding on that. 570 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: I'm thoroughly disappointed in both of you. This is disgusting, 571 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: it happens. I'm triggered. 572 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: We had we had another minute to kill and we'd 573 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: run out of material, and then we just started. 574 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: We just we just fell apart. Speak for yourself. We 575 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: got more on the way, Armstrong Hetty. 576 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 6: President Chump today announced that he will host the twenty 577 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 6: twenty five Kennedy Center Honors. Hosting award shows is what 578 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 6: he envisioned being president is in the first place. 579 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: I now present the award for Sexiest NATO ally and 580 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: congratulations to the women of Latvia. So the whole redistricting 581 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: thing getting a lot of news. Why did I just 582 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: come across some of this stuff yesterday in a podcast 583 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: with people who know what they're talking about. Hey, Republican 584 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: congress people do a better job on those talk shows 585 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: against pushing back. 586 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: Good lord. Anyway, get to that, among other things in 587 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: hour three. 588 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: Plus, Behind the scenes of the rent a crowd business. 589 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: You see a protest, folks, There's a good chance those 590 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: people are there because they got paid. 591 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: Just hilarious. 592 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and the Kelsey Brothers broke the internet. Gotta 593 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: check in on that story. Oh, you just made me vomit. 594 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: So this is unintentionally hilarious. I think. Here's the headline. 595 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: This is a big Swedish study about people who live 596 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: a long time. Headline people who live to one hundred 597 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: have much in common, including suffering from fewer diseases. Wow, 598 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: thanks for that, doctor, I. 599 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: Have something in common. 600 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: I feel like people who live to one hundred have 601 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: birth dates that are more than a century away from 602 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: their current living status, almost all of them. Recent studies 603 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: you're saying they're healthier than the dead. 604 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: Huh. 605 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: Recent studies of centurions that would be people who are 606 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: in their hundreds, thank you for that, have found that 607 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: they suffer fewer diseases overall, develop them more slowly and 608 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: are less likely to experience fatal conditions compared to people 609 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: and shorter live No, they didn't say that they had. 610 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: The sentence actually. 611 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: Says that people who live to one hundred are less 612 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: likely to experience fatal conditions than people who die. 613 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: Well. I agree completely. H it's hard. On the other hand, did. 614 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: A I write that? 615 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I find that hilarious. 616 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: They considered the historical dad from people born over blah 617 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: blah blah blah between nineteen twelve and nineteen twenty two 618 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: thousands of people. 619 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: It's a very big study. 620 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: You know, I would suggest it's a near one hundred 621 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: percent correlation between being alive and not being dead. 622 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 2: Or not having a fatal condition. 623 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a lot of luck involved. He asked 624 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: a doctor Dan to say, you know, what's the best 625 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: way to live a long time? Uh, don't smoke and 626 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: have good genetics. Yeah, and the genetics seem to be oh, whoa, whoa, Michael, 627 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: did you hear that? Did you hear that good genetics? 628 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: That's eugenics, that's white fascism or something white supremacy. 629 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: I heard it. That's why why I bought those American 630 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: Eagle genes. 631 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: This actually makes sense, and it's a little more in 632 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: depth than that other comment. 633 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 634 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: One hundred year olds or more are able to delay 635 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: and avoid many major age related diseases rather than surviving them. 636 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: So it's not like, you know, they get whatever horrible 637 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: thing kills a lot of us and then the medical, 638 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: modern medical or whatever is able to take care of it. 639 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 2: They just don't get it. They just don't get. 640 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: Heart disease or you know, any of the horrible things 641 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: that can happen to you from whatever genetic reason. Yeah, 642 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: great genes. Yeah, and I've said this a thousand times, 643 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: but I remember it happened. I read about it roughly 644 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: the time I got cancer. There's a big article in 645 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal the number one factor in getting 646 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: cancer bad luck. 647 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: Still, it's just it's just we don't know why. Wow. Yeah. 648 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: I was amongst a group of doctors who are all 649 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: smoking cigars, and I said, do you guys just not 650 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: care about mouth camp or whatever? 651 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: And they're all in their. 652 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: Fifty sixty seventies and they said no, if at this 653 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: point we've had no sign and blood. 654 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: The nuns just geneix. 655 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a doctor, so don't go start smoking 656 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: or anything. But you thought you were going to drive 657 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: people to start smoking with your flippant comment. 658 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: I was afraid. Yeah, and then being sued for it. 659 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you missed a segment or an hour, get 660 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: the podcast. It's Armstrong and Getty on demand. You should 661 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 1: subscribe Armstrong and Getty