1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:00,400 Speaker 1: What is up? 2 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets 3 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: Up Podcast, one of the last spring training episodes that 4 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna have for you can't wait to get at 5 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 2: done with spring training. But we got some news on 6 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: Sean and Iyah, Mark Vientos, Carson Bench, a little bit 7 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: of everybody. 8 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: We got the opening day starter announced. 9 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: We got the rotation for the first week built out, 10 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: a lot to talk about before we get going into 11 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: it makes you guys, are subscribed to Mets Up over 12 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: on YouTube. If you're listening to us Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, 13 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: drops a rating, drops a review, download and subscribe. I 14 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: do think, though, the big news that we have to 15 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: start though with James, it's probably Sean Mania right most definitely. 16 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: So the news is that Sean and I will not 17 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: open the season in the Mets rotation very careful where 18 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: it's chosen by Carlos Mendoza, Shouan and I will. 19 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Be used as a piggyback. 20 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: That's kind of I think shocking considering he's the highest 21 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: paid pitcher on this team. 22 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if anybody had, I guess doubts of 23 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: if money mattered for the Mets putting out the best 24 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: product possible. I think this one's a good good pointing 25 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: in the direction of no, it does not matter, because, 26 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: like you said, he's the highest paid pitcher. 27 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna throw them in the bullpen. 28 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: And to be honest, I think if you watch the games, 29 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: it would feel a lot different than what his like 30 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: spring line says, which is I think nine to two 31 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: thirds innings, a three seven era with. 32 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: A whip under one. If you've watched the games, you're seeing. 33 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: Shawan and I throw like eighty seven eighty eight miles 34 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: an hour pretty consistently, with that fastball weirdly hasn't gotten 35 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: completely torched. But also spring training lineups doing this kind 36 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: of damage, So that's a little bit different than when 37 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: you see an opening. 38 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: Day lineup or an actual major league lineup during the season. 39 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: And we all know the big story with Sean and 40 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: I are coming through the spring training was the fact 41 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: that he's not really even throwing ninety miles per hour. 42 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: And we'll say im and had a great article that 43 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: just came out on Saturday night, and we're recording this 44 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: about the showman I situation, one saying that and I 45 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: is frustrated with the role and two that it's not 46 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: because of. 47 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: The velocity, which it can't be true. 48 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: Think I'm gonna call some bullshit on that if I'm 49 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: gonna be honest, But it's just we've talked about the 50 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: early season Mets schedule so a lot this year and 51 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: how there are just a little bit of leeway because 52 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: we have an off day the second day of the year, 53 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: and then we play nine games and nine days. Then 54 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: we're off again Thursday, April sixth, and after that we 55 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: play nine games and nine days again. So I think 56 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 3: you would just rather keep our five guys on schedule 57 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: for that first time through you get to that second 58 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: off day, then you might have to put someone else 59 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: in the rotation. But I guess Sean and I just 60 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: has to come out and look good in a few 61 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: bullpen appearances before he actually proves that. 62 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: And I just I don't know what to feel about 63 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: a guy who last year had difficulty going deep into games, 64 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: and that's when he was throwing ninety ninety one ninety two, 65 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: and now we're seeing that fastball below ninety consistently. 66 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't and did he touch ninety at all? Has 67 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: he touched ninety this spring? I think he's touched ninety, 68 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: but it just grazed it. 69 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is scary for a guy who the biggest 70 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: issue with him last year was that he could not 71 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: go past the fourth inning. Realistically every time he did 72 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: blow up in our face. For the Mets to be 73 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: the best team that they're going to be in twenty 74 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: twenty six, Seaman and I might just have to accept 75 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: the role that it's when you pitch, it's going to 76 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: be three four innings at a time max. 77 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: Until you prove otherwise. 78 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: Because right now in spring, as much as it hurts me, 79 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: like Shaman I as dude, he was awesome in twenty 80 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: twenty four, he has regressed a lot. 81 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even think. I mean he's regressed a lot. 82 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: But also if you look at the entire body of 83 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: work for Shoum and I, it's like what sticks. 84 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: Out twenty twenty four. 85 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Yes, regress from the version that 86 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: we paid after. 87 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: And at the same time, I'm I am just like 88 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: you don't want to say this, but like you are 89 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: curious about health like Shouan and I. The whole reason 90 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 3: he jumped up the second half twenty twenty four was mimicking. 91 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Chris Sales release and delivery. 92 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: Chris Sale famously one of the least healthy pitchers in 93 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: baseball over the last half decade. So again, while it 94 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: did work in the short term, just Shaman and I 95 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: disrupting the entire kinetic change, and thank god he did 96 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: because we almost made the world serious because of it. 97 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: But it's just it feels like, right now this is 98 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: not a very good situation, and the fact that we're 99 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: getting rumblings that there is frustration. I'm curious how this 100 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: looks the fact that you signed a guy for a 101 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: three year deal to be your highest paid pitcher and 102 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: then he's out of the rotation next year. But also 103 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: you have to perform if you want to be that guy, 104 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: Like after last year. There's tons of pressure on this 105 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: team just to win every single game you possibly can. 106 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of strange. This is like a 107 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: nice sesaw right now happening in my mind. Abou Where's 108 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: where's the relevant part of this news? 109 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 110 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: It it feels like to me the most relevant part. 111 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: Crazy enough, is is it the frustration? 112 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: Maybe? Is that the most relevant part? 113 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: Or is that reading into it a little bit too 114 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: much just because it's new York. 115 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 116 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean, this is again, this is the first line 117 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: of Will's article. Shaman and I sees himself as a 118 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: starting pitcher, so it was frustrating for him. He said 119 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: that the New York Mets announced Saturday to leave him 120 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: off their opening day rotation. I don't know if there's 121 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: any other way to interpret that sentence. Yeah, I mean, 122 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: he probably just is frustrated. Also, at the same time, 123 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: he should be frustrated, though, right, it'd be weird if he. 124 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: Was like, this is the right move. 125 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: I think he should be frustrated. Yeah, it's fine to 126 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: be frustrated, but also some of that frustration has to 127 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: be pointed inward, Like there's no remark in that sentence 128 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: that says the only frustration lies with the team. Yes, 129 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: he could very still well be much more frustrated with himself, 130 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 3: which I think that probably does come through a lot 131 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: because sham and I himself as a competitor. 132 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: He wants to be the best picture on this team. 133 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: Every picture on the seam wants to be the best 134 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: picture on this team, and he's this current version of 135 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: him is way close to that. 136 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: I think. 137 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: Also at the same time, when you look at who 138 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: the five guys are that the Mets announced being Freddy Pearlton, 139 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: Noel McLain, David Peterson, Clay Holmes, code is Sanga. Those 140 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: are the five best starting pitchers in the New York 141 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: Mets organization right now that he is not one of 142 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: those five. 143 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: And I think even more so than that, like now 144 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: that we actually have a really good starting pitcher on 145 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: the top in Freddie Pearlton. And we'll talk about this 146 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: a lot in his piece as well. You don't want 147 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: to get other guys in line ahead of him. I 148 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: want Freddy Prawlton pitching as close to every fifth day 149 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: as possible because he's that good of a picture. We 150 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: have a better chance to win when Freddy pearl is 151 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: on the mound rather than trying to get someone like Seaum. 152 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: And I continue to get. 153 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: Him back up to speed, like if he can do 154 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: this in the piggyback role, but also if we go 155 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: through those first two weeks this season and he gets 156 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: lit up, and maybe Tobias Myers also in long relief 157 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 3: looks great, or maybe Christian Scott's first start in triple 158 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: A is great, Like there's no this this demotion happening 159 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: this soon tells me like, oh, might this might be 160 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: the beginning of a tumble. 161 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: It seems like there is a lack of or actually 162 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: to this, but the patience is wearing thin with the 163 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: New York Mets and Shamanaya. Not that there's anything wrong 164 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: with the personal relationship. From a performance standpoint, the Mets 165 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: might be thinking, we can't do this again. You've you've 166 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: got to be better if you want to be that guy. 167 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: But I think that's fair. There's just there's a lot 168 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: of pressure on this team. There's a lot pressure on 169 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: this rotation, specifically because that was the achilles he of 170 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: last year. Everything fell so unbelievably apart, and it's just 171 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: why why are we having tolerance for this? 172 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: Over under one hundred innings for shaman and Iya this year? 173 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: Oh good line, that's the exact projection on Baseball Reference. 174 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. 175 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I probably still slightly lean over just because 176 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: he's if he's healthy, he's going to be intending to pitch. 177 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it seems. 178 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I don't see why not, and kind of 179 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: as it might be, might be the best role for 180 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: him as well, is it? 181 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: I mean again that the role thing is a question, 182 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: because it's more I don't know if it's a combination 183 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: of pride or like organization, trust or what actually was 184 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: role he'd be better in. 185 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: He's kind of happened with the Giants and the Padres 186 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: as well when they got him, Like he eventually did 187 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: just become this guy. 188 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was a. 189 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: Very different time for Sean and I I think the 190 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: way that he modernized himself with the Giants. He said 191 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: he learned the lot of the first time he's waited balls, 192 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: which is a big thing. How it got lost the 193 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: backup He's talked about how his time with the Padres, 194 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 3: we kind of just like he was like stuck mentally. 195 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like he's that guy anymore. But it's 196 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: just it's like his standing as a team leader, his 197 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: standing with his salary, are standing in the league when all, 198 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: when you're signed a guy to a contract like this, 199 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: but also like it's to come. It's the two sides, 200 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: the two sides of the corner, like you have to 201 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: prove yourself worthy, but also like if you make a 202 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: promise on a role. 203 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: How much you have to keep that trying to win 204 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: baseball games? 205 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: See what I'm saying At least to me, this feels 206 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: like the right decision as of as of March twenty. 207 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: First, I'm shocked. I'm I like the cutthroat in this 208 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: of this. I'm shocked the mess did this. We've spoken 209 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: a lot in this show that I didn't think the 210 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: Mets were going to do this. I think the fact 211 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: that they were so you know, I don't know, so 212 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: so so step fast about it. It's like, all right, nice, 213 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: I think, But still I was saying, it's not about 214 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: the velocity. 215 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, come on, come on, come on, dude, 216 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: how about the cutthroat in this. Let's talk about another player. 217 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: Here been a hot name, Mark Vientos bout as bad 218 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: of a spring as you could possibly have. He did 219 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: hit a home run on the day that we're recording 220 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: Mark twenty first Classic, right before. 221 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: There has to be a decision made. 222 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: And I know before we started recording you mentioned how 223 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: his bottom batted ball day has actually been pretty good 224 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: this spring. 225 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: It is very hard to ignore. 226 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: That in like basically the ten games he's played, his 227 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: batting averages below one hundred. His ops I think starts 228 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: with a two's. It's not pretty. It's been a nightmare 229 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: off season for Mark Viento, it's been a nightmare spring training. 230 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: He was bad in the WBC. 231 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: He's manped out a position, didn't really come into camp 232 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: as a guy who seemed like he was trying to 233 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: earn a spot. 234 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, But also at the same time, again, like I'm 235 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: pulling up the bad ball day that right now because 236 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: I think it is relevant. I'm trying to learn from 237 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: the Brett Bay the experience last year. 238 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: It was where its bad. 239 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: It was the first three weeks the season. It was 240 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 3: definitely this bat Mark he had Mark, he'd have a 241 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 3: three Bret. They didn't have a three ball count for 242 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: three weeks last. 243 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: Year, I know. But like, did his ops start with 244 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: a two? No, it didn't. It did not start with 245 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: the two. But the fact that against against spring training pitching. 246 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: Mark Fianta's a fifty percent hard hit rate this spring 247 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: and that's that doesn't include the games that happened on Saturday. 248 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: Mark Viantos has a bad ball of one seventeen, which 249 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: would be the hardest he's ever hit the ball in 250 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: his life, called two other one tens. Like he has 251 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 3: a very high rate of his bad balls at hard 252 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: one hundred miles per hour. 253 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: Fifty percent hard hit rate. I think that that's about 254 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: that's that's what he's done for his career. 255 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: By the way, fifty percent hard hit rate, great, awesome. 256 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: This is also the same thing with those twelve percent 257 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: barrel rate like this is also the same thing we're 258 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: talking about with Manaia where I'm gonna talk about both 259 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: sides of my mouth right now. If you look at 260 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: Mark Vianto's entire body of work, what stands out? 261 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty four, So what do you think is 262 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: more real? The five to seven hundred play the pierce 263 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: is of bad or the four hundred of good? 264 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean you we know where I stand on Marfiento. Sadly, 265 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: which is the bad? I'm just I'm just not a believer. 266 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: I know I evoked the Brett bay the message. But 267 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: the big difference with Brett Baby and Mark Fianto's at 268 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: this time of each of these two years is that 269 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: Brett Baby was good. Well, no, it training, he was good. 270 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: Those first three weeks season he was bad. He was 271 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: he looked like the worst hit in baseball, but he 272 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: had got himself into a position where he was kind 273 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: of irreplaceable defensively, Yes, he worked very hard to become 274 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: good at second base. He's now he was fine there, 275 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: he became a plus third basement defensively. That is where 276 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: Mark Fianto's is losing right now his grip on a 277 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: roster spot. Because if you can't hit very well as 278 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: Mark Fiano's, there has to be something you bring to 279 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: the table for this team. And right now he's not 280 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: hitting very well, so I'm really curious about what he 281 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: could be bring it to that table. 282 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: The thing that's tough is I don't know if they 283 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: actually can cut him because I don't know who the 284 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: right handed bad on the bench is going to be. 285 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: Like I know you have Luis Friends and Tyrone Taylor technically, 286 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: but like you, you need a little UMF on that bench. 287 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: And if you don't have Mark Viento's, one of your 288 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: bench options maybe right now is Mike Taalkman, who's a 289 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: lefty doesn't have a lot of om F either. There's 290 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: got to be some sort of danger coming off the bench. 291 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: And while I am not a Mark Fiento's fan by 292 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: any means as a ballplayer. You mentioned the eggs of eels, 293 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: You mentioned the hard hit rate, you mentioned the barrel rate, 294 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: learn how to mash lefties and just come off the bench. 295 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: I think that's got to be the best case scenario 296 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: for him right now. 297 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: This one's for the dudes looking for peak bedroom performance. 298 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: Blue Choo is the number one chewable ed brand and 299 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: they just dropped their newest innovation. 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We just had to do the 331 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: bad stuff first. 332 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: Like Joe Sherman is saying, he's basically on this team, 333 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: seems like it's his spot, and it seems like it's 334 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: going to be with Mike Talkerman on the bench as well, 335 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: which was a roster what's the word I'm looking for? 336 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 3: What's what's the word permutation that we talked about a 337 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 3: little bit over the last few weeks we've predicting this roster, 338 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: and I'm actually surprised that that's where we're leading right now. 339 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: And we saw Bobachett play short in the spring training 340 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: game to see if we need actual backup short. San 341 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: Francisco Indoor who's playing spring training games, looks totally fine. Also, 342 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: It's just this is looks like a nice little twenty. 343 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: Six man roster. We got it. 344 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: It is a nice little roster there, and Mike talkman, 345 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: I guess we'll also be up in the air depending 346 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: on what happens, because he left the game limping today 347 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: trying to run out to right field, So I guess 348 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 2: we'll see how healthy or unhealthy he truly is. I'm 349 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: sure it's it's not actually as serious as just pulling 350 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: him from the game because spring training. But yeah, Carson 351 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: Bench pretty awesome spring Again, haven't seen the power, but 352 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: in terms of like a slash line and just the 353 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: consistency from him, that's basically everything that you would have 354 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: wanted from Carson Bench coming out of spring, considering that 355 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: he'd been told if he plays well, the starting spots 356 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: is three sixty eight average four to forty two on 357 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: base eight eighty nine ops as at the time of recording. 358 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Maybe the power is not going to come this year. 359 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: Maybe it takes a little bit of time to develop, 360 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: like I've always joked about, like Christian Yelich. But the 361 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: bat to ball is great, the play discipline's great, plays 362 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: a great outfield. Just seems like a winning ball player 363 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: and someone that needs to be on this roster every day. 364 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I think the fact that he 365 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: proved himselves a big deal too. 366 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: And this even plays in back to the Sean and 367 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: I discussion, even with the guy that Koda Sango, who 368 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: will reference similarly in his piece. 369 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: It's like these guys had big things to prove, the 370 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: Spring went out and snatched their roles. Kodai Sanga looks 371 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: obscenely good. 372 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: So good, like another one where I'm like, I'm trying 373 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: to Beetle quiet because i think God Code angle looks 374 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: right now. 375 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: Same with Carson Bench. 376 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: Like you said, the power is not going to be there, 377 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: but you guys were all going to fall in love 378 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: with Carson Bench because the way this guy's going to 379 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: the way this guy's going to grind out his plate appearances, 380 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: the way this dude's going to take tough pitches, get 381 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: himself on base, run the bass as well, play really 382 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: good defense like this is such. This is the kind 383 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: of like you guys were getting on me in the 384 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: commasy of the archetype archetype type archetype arca type. 385 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: That that was the early morning recording for us. That 386 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: was a rough one. 387 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: But the archetype of cars in Bench is something the 388 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: Mets haven't had on this roster in a while, which 389 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: is this young, wispy outfield, athletic outfielder. It's this is 390 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: going to be very, very fun thing to watch. We're 391 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: at the same time trying to caution people not to 392 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: anticipate like a star being born day one. 393 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like, don't don't think we're getting an 394 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: All Star player this year. I actually I that's not 395 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: the expectation at all, is that Carson Bench will be 396 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: even close to an All Star player this year. But 397 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: hitting towards the back end of this line and getting 398 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: on base, being pesky at the bottom, I think it's 399 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: a great role for him, especially because there's just so 400 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: many dogs in this lineup that can do all the 401 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: heavy lifting. Just get on bass, Carson Bench, literally, get 402 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: on bass, play good defense in the outfield. 403 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: That's what we need to see. Have fun. 404 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: Carson Bench got there to have a ball. I have 405 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: a good time this team. I hope in the open 406 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: team's going to be fun. Similarly, we got up a 407 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: real scare a few days ago Thursday night with Francisco 408 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: Alvarez leaving the Mets Opening Day rehearsal with back tightness 409 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: and I like, I dropped to my knees when that happened. 410 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: I was so upset, but yeah, it was. It was 411 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: hard to read. 412 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: He's coming back in the lineup, so I think he's okay, 413 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: But I don't like a backflare up from a twenty 414 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: four year old in March who. 415 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: Gets hurt all the time. 416 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: No, that's that's kind of sucks to here. Well, this 417 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: is we're getting to like real opening day ef here, 418 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: Like we're going to have episodes for you guys, like 419 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: four days in a row until we get to City Field, 420 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: which we'll both be there on Thursday against Paul Skins 421 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: and the Pirates, not Connor Griffin, which I was really 422 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: hoping to see kinnor Griffinth Major just to give you 423 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: but the last it's the fact that these are the 424 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: conversations that we're having I think is nice, Like too 425 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: many good starting pitcher Shawm and I is pushed to 426 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: the bullpen. 427 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: Our top prospect demanded he'd. 428 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: Be in the opening day lineup and opening they roster 429 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: at least improved himself with a great spring called I 430 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: saying again the biggest, one of the biggest X factors 431 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: on this team looks like the best version of himself 432 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: we've seen in years so far, the spring setting ninety seven, 433 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: getting that color shape to be consistent again, Like I'm. 434 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I feel feel God about this team right now. 435 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the excitement with this Mets team is is is palpable? 436 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Is that the right way to use that? 437 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: I don't feel like this this podcast right now is 438 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: just like our appetizer for ourselves too. They get ready 439 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: for like the real season two that's about to begin. 440 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so excited. 441 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: Like today, I flew back from Miami because I was 442 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: staying down there after the World Baseball Classic. There was 443 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: a Mets prospect hanging out in the airport because he 444 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: had the big fucking Mets duffel bag. Oh yeah, didn't 445 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: speak a lick English and had someone carried He was 446 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: I think a child. I think because it seemed like 447 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: he needed to be like shown through the airport. I 448 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, let's let's go mets him with one 449 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: of those. He had no clue what was happening. Also, 450 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 2: super funny last episode said enough of Rick Dick Lovelady 451 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: and he's immediately picked up that morning. That morning they 452 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: picked him up. 453 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be the last member of 454 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 3: the opening day bullpen because Brian Hudson has been. 455 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: Horrific this spring. Do we need three lefties? I think 456 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: they just won. I think why not get another lefty? 457 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: You want to know why not? Because shuman and I 458 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: is not going to be a traditional lefty reliever. 459 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: Okay, fair, true, I don't know. I just I would 460 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: rather my boy Austin wore. 461 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: Also, we're really getting a very chill start to this 462 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: season of pot like pitching wise. Yes, we're gonna face 463 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 3: the Pirates line up without Connor Griffin, the Cardinals lineup, 464 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: and then the Giants in San Francisco one, two, three 465 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: to start the season. That is a nice Colm cool 466 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: and collected ten games to let this pitching staff get 467 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 3: get themselves together. 468 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: Honestly, thinking about Dick Lovelady on this roster it might 469 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: just be for the Pirates years because they got O'Neil, Cruz, 470 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: Brandon Lao, Ryan, O'Hearn. Those are their best hitters and 471 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: they're all lefty. 472 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: A few pieces that have come out from like some 473 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: of Will's articles, some of Anthony Dicomo's articles, and a 474 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: couple of Joel Sherman pieces too, is that the Mets 475 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: are active on the DFA market the any kind of 476 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: waiver claims right now. I think they're very very very 477 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: loose with the bottom of their roster. They're not bound 478 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: to any of these guys. 479 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: So here's the question. 480 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: I'll leave you with James Mark Viento's on the opening 481 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: day roster, yes or no? 482 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, he is? 483 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: I mean unless, I mean but like, it would still 484 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 3: make sense if I was a bad team to just 485 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: go out and try and run a trade for Mark Fianzo. 486 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: It is just hard to find the team where it's 487 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: an obvious fit as a right handed bat who's first 488 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: base DH only. 489 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're not playing their base. It's just if 490 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: he's on the roster. 491 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: With Talkman, Taylor and Torrenz, the Mets have no options 492 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: to play the infield besides first base. 493 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: Also, I just I do want to give Mark Fannos 494 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: one more chance, because again, just using the Bret Baity 495 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: logic from last year, it felt completely over it. 496 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: Now it looks like a piece of the future. And 497 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: also too, when the left handed pitchers on the mound, 498 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: I just would I just like a picture there. It's fair. Yeah, 499 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: me too, to an advantage. 500 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: Why he doesn't get cut, like, I really think that's 501 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: not I just I think there's no way you can 502 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: cut him. 503 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: Honestly, you guys can let us know down more. What's more, 504 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: how he rose dude? 505 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: Oh of course, yes, Howie retiring end of the year sucks. 506 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. 507 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: So I love how we Mark and I as fresh 508 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: thirty year olds, we don't know the Mets without how 509 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 3: He Rose, Like there's literally no idea. I like, I 510 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: listened to games on the radio still all the time, 511 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: just because I kind of like my choice and I 512 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 3: guy Keith rad But like it's it's I'm happy for 513 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: him that he gets to go out, like he said 514 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: still with his fastball. 515 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: I'm just I hope he does, and I'm going to 516 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: really cherish having how He Rose this year. 517 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course gonna be in great hands with 518 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 2: Keith rad Keith is awesome. We're hoping to get him 519 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 2: on the podcast here, maybe in the next week or so, 520 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: try and get him an appearance, because Keith is the man. 521 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: Talk about a great passing of the torch there from 522 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 2: Howie Keith, but how we will be missed and in 523 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: our interview in the time that we've spent with him, just. 524 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: Such a good dude. 525 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: He's just it's like it's it's remarkably authentic. How he 526 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: rose so authentic, he is himself, like he is. 527 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: Completely himself one hundred percent of the time. And the 528 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: dude's a literal walking Mets encyclopedia. 529 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: Like if you ever, guys, do listen to a radio broadcast, 530 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: and I will tell even the younger generation of fans, 531 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: I might listen to this show and might not tune 532 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: into that many radio broadcasts. Take a listen to a 533 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: couple of Howie games this year, because he'll bring up 534 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: like a May game in nineteen seventy eight, and. 535 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll talk about it. 536 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: He'll give like an anecdote about Joel Youngblood and like, 537 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 3: Felix me on, You're like, what are you talking about? 538 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: Like he just knows everything about the Mets and the 539 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: way that he's maybe but going to this generation. 540 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: Ie. 541 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: I'm excited to talk to Keith about that because it's 542 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 3: just watching Keith grow last few years being next to 543 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 3: how he's really cool too. It's just it's kind of sad, 544 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: but I'm happy he can call on his own terms. 545 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: Gonna miss the Master of Ceremonies voice of the New 546 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: York Mets on the radio. 547 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: Well, apparently he's still going to be a Master of Ceremonies, 548 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: thank god. That's still okay. He's still allowed to do 549 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: that yet, thankfully, But that's it's gonna be cool to let. 550 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: Him kind of chill out too. 551 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: He's been also like if if you guys don't know 552 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: how Ro started calling Mets games in nineteen eighty seven, Yeah, 553 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: you gotta get. 554 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: One for him as a lifelong Met fan. It's a 555 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: bad being. 556 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: Also before we go, just we saw Joan Tong and 557 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: Will Watson pitching the spring on Saturday. We'll Watson nice, 558 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: get the get the actual like advanced. 559 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: Date on him. 560 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: Extension is a little worse than I thought, but like 561 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: like a slider, like his color, like his fastball, and 562 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: Jonah Toong is still he's trying to make that color happen. 563 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: He still has no idea where it's going, but he's 564 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: doing it. He's doing it's just just throwing it. I 565 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: think I think Joan Talking might spend a a good 566 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: bit of. 567 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: Time in triple. 568 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 3: I think christianas Guy him to Christian's goun Tobias Meyers 569 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: are going to be the alternates for whatever happens to 570 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 3: Seaman I situation. 571 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: I think that's a fun spot to be. Yeah, I 572 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: think things are looking good for the Mets. That's pretty 573 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: much the spring spring training recap. On training finale, Yeah, finale. 574 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: We're gonna have so much for you guys coming over 575 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: the next few days. 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