1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning the breakfast Club morning, 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: everybody is DJ Envy just hilarious charlamage of God. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: We are to breakfast club. Jess is on maternity leave, 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: so Lon LaRosa is filling in. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 3: And we got some special guests joining us back in 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 3: the building indeed, and the brother John Holt Brian, he's back. 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 4: Welcome, Brock honor to be here. 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: And also a rod Alex Rodriguez, welcome, great to be here. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: A lot of money, a lot of intelligence between y'all two. 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 5: Okay, how did this happen? This connection? 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 4: Well, whatever you try to make smart sexy, you know 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 4: in the tracks, you know like attracts like you know 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 4: on mindset. You know this is all of us are 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 4: up from nothing. By the way, all of this story 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: is the same thing that you can go from the 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: bottom to the top legally, ethically, honestly, pay your taxes, 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 4: do your stuff, go from cashing a check to write 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 4: in the check. And so Alex's story and mine are 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: very similar. Like we had very strong mothers who are 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: great influences our lives. We're both extremely you know, Quincy Jones, 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: howd you get so smart? I'm just nosy as hell. 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: I want to know everything about everything, so you know, 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: we're nosy. And when he got his first check, you know, 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 4: in baseball, he went to ask Magic like, okay, how 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 4: do I turn this from a check to some to 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: some wealth? And so we started talking to the folks 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: on the front row at the team at the games 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: were business people, and he would trade his influence for lunch. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 4: I'll go to lunch with you. I just need to 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: ask a bunch of questions. That's what Magic used to 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: do that. You saw him last week and it was 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 4: just brilliant because he gained a business acumen from that 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: guy to basically the NBA while he's playing baseball and 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: use that to then buy some real estate and then 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: buy some more. I think you worked the first piece 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: of real estate yourself, did you. 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, duplex, duplex for two hundred and fifty thousand. 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: So we did a financial literacy episode on money and wealth, 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: which you know something about us on the Black OFFC network. 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 5: That's right, make sure you subscribed to that. 41 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: It's actually episodes out this week. We did this episode 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: together on financial literacy because we both leave. It's a 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: civil rights issue of this generation. You know better, you 44 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: do better and we're talking about black and brown wealth. 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 4: How do you how do you how does black and 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: brown create some green and at at scale? And it's 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 4: a conversation that many folks don't have. Most athletes go broke. 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 4: By the way, seventy wow of all NBA and NFL 49 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: players bankrupt within five years of retirement and divorced. So 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: this brother just defying all the odds. He's cool, he's 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 4: a he's a humble dude. He wanted to meet you, guys. 52 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: You've got a bit before, a man before. 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, but he wanted to get into it. He 54 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: wanted to. He wanted to. Yeah, he wanted to get 55 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: into it, go to another level. And so it's a 56 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 4: it's a it's a beautiful family re reunion. 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: Well let's let's jump right into it. 58 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: So you know what gave you the mindset to say 59 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 3: I want to learn more about investing and making sure 60 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: that I have wealth after retirement. Was it the fact 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: that you've seen so many athletes go bro Was it 62 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: the fact that you said I'm never going back to 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: where I was? What was it that said I want 64 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: to be different from seventy percent of those other athletes? 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 6: Yeah? 66 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 4: Thank you? 67 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 6: I would say, you know, I was a kid here 68 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 6: born in Washington Heights nineteen seventy five July twenty seventh, 69 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 6: and I grew up right in the block right by 70 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 6: Yeshiva University. And my father was a baseball player and 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 6: an entrepreneur, and both my parents are Dominican. I'm first 72 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 6: generation immigrant. And I had this great appetite for two things, 73 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 6: baseball and business because I my father was a money guy. 74 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 6: And then my father left my mom and my two 75 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 6: siblings when he was when I was ten. 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 5: What'd your father do? If you know, mammy. 77 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 6: So he was in our apartment in Washington Heights. We 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 6: had a shoe store and just before iPhones, obviously it 79 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 6: was like late nineteen seventies, and they used to call 80 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 6: him like the human calculator because obviously we didn't have 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 6: the phone, the calculator and all that. So you know, 82 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: women would come up get four shoes and it'd be 83 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 6: like boom, boom, boom plus tax minus ten percent boom, 84 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 6: and every time he was right because then they get 85 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 6: the calculator out. But he usually had a calculator out, 86 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 6: but it wasn't for him. It was for usually the 87 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 6: women so they can count and make sure that all 88 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 6: the numbers were right, so I always had that. And 89 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 6: then once he left, I saw My mother worked at 90 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 6: General Mortars for about twelve years. She would have the 91 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 6: early shift at three o'clock in the morning to two, 92 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 6: come home now for two hours, and then go serve 93 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 6: tables at night at midnight. And I saw this for 94 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,559 Speaker 6: years and years and years, and I think my life changed. 95 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: One day. 96 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 6: We're at Publix, which is a supermarket down in Miami. 97 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 6: I was about twelve years old, and the bills about 98 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 6: seventy five dollars, and I see her grab some of 99 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 6: her tip money, and she's got like fifty six dollars 100 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 6: or whatever, and I see that she's missing like twenty 101 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 6: twenty five bucks. And she goes into another pocket and 102 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 6: her purse and grabs what I call funny money. And 103 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 6: I said, Mom, what is that funny money? It's like 104 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 6: rad I've never seen money like that, only monopoly, And 105 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 6: she kind of with shame in her face, looked down, 106 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 6: and she goes son, the government is helping us out 107 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 6: a little bit this month, And it changed my life 108 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 6: I and I can feel it today, and I know 109 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 6: so many families out there have felt this and that's 110 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 6: kind of where my ambitious grew. 111 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: We used to call food stamps. 112 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, food stamps. Remember the paper, But I 113 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 6: never seen him in the ring, right, And I think 114 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 6: she would hide it for me. We were probably food 115 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 6: stamps for years. She just never you know, disclosed that 116 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 6: with me. And then, like John said, I met with 117 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 6: one of my heroes and mentors and great friend now 118 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 6: Magic Johnson, about thirty years ago, and he was going 119 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 6: out to dinner with Cookie and it was near at 120 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 6: l Abraldale Drive, I think Mastro for something, and it 121 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 6: was supposed to be a thirty minute you know. We 122 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 6: were in the back room, supposed to be like a 123 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 6: little thirty minute meeting. We met for three hours. He 124 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 6: called Cook and said, I'm not coming home. And years 125 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 6: later I said, Magic, why'd you give me like three hours? 126 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 6: And I left with nine notes of paper that I 127 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 6: still have today. He said, because you're one of the 128 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 6: few athletes that came in all business on time, no phone, 129 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 6: and you were taking notes, so you were engaged, So 130 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 6: I engaged with you. So that's my message to the 131 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 6: next generation. It's just like the reason why I played 132 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 6: baseball for so long is the fundamentals whether it's Jordan 133 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 6: or Tiger or Lebron or Magic or Bird whoever, it's 134 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 6: fundamentally sports that makes you great. The same thing as 135 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 6: in business. You got to know the rules of engagement, 136 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 6: and our young folks, while they're getting better, there's a 137 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 6: lot of room for growth to understand the way that 138 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 6: money works and the relationship with money in financial literacy. 139 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: So from day one, did you blow any money? Like 140 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: like when you first got your first your first big check, 141 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: did you blow any of it? 142 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 6: I was fortunate that I played for almost twenty five years, 143 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 6: so I would say from age twenty to thirty, I 144 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 6: made a bunch of mistakes. And then when I realized, 145 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 6: like sports, when we won the championship with the Yankees 146 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 6: and O nine, we had a squad and we were 147 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 6: as solid as anyone. And in business, the same thing. 148 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 6: You got to create an incredible team that are way 149 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 6: smarter than you, that have complimentary set of skills. But 150 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, you're the quarterback of 151 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 6: that team. So then I put my lessons behind me 152 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 6: and it's been pretty good ever since. 153 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: What was the dumbest thing you bought when you when 154 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: you first became and made all that money in Major 155 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: League Baseball. 156 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 6: I'm from Miami, so. 157 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: Bends on Rolex. 158 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 6: If you're from Miami, you need a Rolex's relicts is 159 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 6: not down. 160 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: So by the way, me, him and Don Peeples was 161 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: being to show a few weeks ago, the three black men, 162 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: I know, black and brown, same thing. We're We're all 163 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: the same family who have a couple of hundred million 164 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: dollars in loan facility for real estate on as you know, 165 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: this non recourse basis, which means it's no personal guarantees. 166 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: That's credibility, and that's where we need to go. Like 167 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: you make money during the day, you build wealth in 168 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: your sleep, and and too many of us hooked on 169 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: that I want to get that dollar and get that cash. 170 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: When we get that buck and we get that bag, 171 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: it's useless. It it's it's called literally cash flow. Cash 172 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: will flow. And if your outfloaks at your inflows and 173 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: your overhead will be your downfall. And if you don't 174 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: understand financial literacy, somebody's going to separate you from your wallet. 175 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: And this is this is just more zero's attached to it. 176 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: The first year, every athlete spends everything they got right, 177 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: you know, it's just it's natural. 178 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 6: If you look at baseball. To answer your first question, 179 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 6: I was eighteen nineteen years old and this article came 180 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 6: out called broke, and then I think thirty thirty did 181 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 6: I remember that child? 182 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: Right? 183 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 6: And you saw the guys were having a bunch of kids, 184 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 6: and it was really sad, right to see. And when 185 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 6: you looked at the data and baseball, three numbers that 186 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 6: jumped off the page was one, the average career in 187 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 6: basebus five and a half years. You make ninety percent 188 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 6: of your money from age twenty to thirty, so then 189 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 6: what happens from thirty one to eighty And then the 190 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 6: last one is less than five percent of almost eight 191 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 6: hundred players in the big leagues, less than five percent 192 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 6: have a college degree. So when you look at those 193 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: three data points, I was short the stock, meaning that 194 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 6: I would bet that most guys would run into financial 195 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 6: problem most people men and women. So that was a 196 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 6: big issue. And then one of the biggest mistakes John, 197 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 6: I know we've talked about this, whether it's athletes or 198 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 6: just people like my mom and my dad that grew up. 199 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 6: I would say, more like my mom, they don't really 200 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 6: understand the difference between an asset and a liability. So 201 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 6: when you say what was the first stupid thing you bought? 202 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 6: I mean one of them would be a plane, aboat, 203 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 6: you know, cars, you know. Assets would be multifamily apartments, 204 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 6: a business that throws off cash, and things that are 205 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 6: going to appreciate over time. 206 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, I want to jump into what 207 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: you were saying. You know, growing up in Queens, there 208 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: was nobody around me making money, right, we were all 209 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: the same. We didn't know anything about financial literacy. 210 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: Right. 211 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: My son goes to University of Miami calls me yesterday 212 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: him and his friends about to buy a restaurant, which 213 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: is crazy to me because at twenty years old, I 214 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: wasn't thinking about that at all. But it's the mindset 215 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: and the people that he's around. So for people listening, 216 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: and they might not have somebody around him that is 217 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: knowledgeable in business. They might not have somebody around him 218 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: that knows where to put money or what to invest 219 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: in or how to do it. What do you tell 220 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: those individuals coming from you know, Washington Heights. I'm sure 221 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 3: that besides heeing your dad, there wasn't too many people 222 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: around you that you could get advice from. 223 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: So what do you tell those people to say, Okay, 224 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: I'm in this situation. 225 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: I don't I don't have a magic to speak to 226 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I don't have an a Rod 227 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: to say, let me sit down, which I don't have 228 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: a John to say, this is what I have and 229 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: what I do. 230 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 6: So what do you tell those Yeah, first, I know 231 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 6: this is one includes John. It's the power of proximity 232 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 6: to greatness or proximity to intelligence is so powerful in baseball, 233 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 6: I wanted to be around cal Ripken, Keith Hernandez, dot 234 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 6: Good and Strawberry because they had sets of skills that 235 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 6: I needed and I wanted. And great athletes can copy 236 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 6: and paste better. 237 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: Than anyone in baseball skills in baseball. 238 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 6: Now you go over now to business and it's the 239 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 6: same exact dro I want to be around John Hope 240 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 6: because every time I'm around him, I get better. He 241 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 6: inspires me, he gives me more hope, He gives me 242 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 6: no pun intended, he gives my self esteem rises. Our 243 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 6: community black and brown, the number one issue is self 244 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 6: esteem issue. And they don't want to engage. They don't 245 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 6: want to engage in a business conversation because they don't 246 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 6: want to be embarrassed. We're some of the most prideful 247 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 6: people in the world, but we pay around on time. 248 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 6: We're hard working people, we have tremendous heart and grit, 249 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 6: but we don't want to be embarrassed. That's why Shark 250 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 6: Tank works so well. You get an education while getting entertainment, 251 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 6: and America gets an NBA from Shark Tank. That's why 252 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 6: people say when I walk around, oh, there's a Shark 253 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 6: Tank guy. 254 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: I love shar tak Ta is amazing, right, they learned 255 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: so early. 256 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 6: So your job as an American citizen, as a youngster, 257 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 6: right man, boy, whatever you are, is to be around 258 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 6: proximity of greatness. So if you find a great mentor 259 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 6: from age twenty to thirty, forget about the money. Twenty 260 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 6: to thirty, go work for John, Go do an internship 261 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 6: at a Rock Corp. Go work for Magic, pay nothing, 262 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 6: pay whatever you got, get a roommate. But twenty thirty 263 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 6: is your extended education. And then once you get into 264 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 6: the thirties you open up that that black book. How 265 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 6: we say your your ladyships, right, because when you're eighty five, right, 266 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 6: you look back, your net worth is going to resemble 267 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 6: your network. 268 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 4: Amen. 269 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 6: Right, So start I had a mentor save. If you 270 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 6: don't have a breakfast, lunch, and dinner every single day 271 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 6: to talk about money, you're falling behind because your competition's 272 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 6: doing it. 273 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: And another thing too, you said when you said you 274 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: sat with Magic and you just did with notes for 275 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: three hours, don't be too don't be too proud to 276 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: ask questions. 277 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: Question if I'm around somebody that's. 278 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: Doing more than me and got way more than me, 279 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: I want to know about everything that pert. 280 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 6: You know what happened with Magic, it was I still 281 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 6: have his notes, and I saw him last week at 282 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 6: the Dodger game, and I mean, he's such a goat. 283 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 6: I love that guy so much and he's done so 284 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 6: much for our communities. But it was the proximity where 285 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 6: I can touch him. I can touch him. But here's 286 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 6: a man who's great on the court and then put 287 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 6: on a business suit and was a Hall of Famer also, 288 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 6: And I said, well, wait a minute, if Magic can 289 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 6: do it, why can I? We look alike? And I 290 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 6: can't do that just with a general white guy because 291 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 6: I don't look like that guy. 292 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: So to answer your question very specifically, great answer. I 293 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: loved all that. By the way, my job is to 294 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 4: become the public's capitalists. That's my job. You know that 295 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: black lives matter, but black capitalists matter. Right, We got 296 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 4: to make smart sexy. We gotta make this That's what 297 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: you guys are doing. By the way, ladies guys are 298 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 4: doing on this show. You're making intelligent thought interesting and 299 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: fascinating by putting over people can relate to it. And 300 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 4: that's financial literacy that I introduced when where you introduced 301 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: when I was on the show last it's still number one. 302 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 4: That's black and brown people buying that book. It's number 303 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: one in business finance, not black history, business finance nationwide 304 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: of all books. That makes me very proud when I 305 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: go through the airport like last night, TSA agent six 306 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: seventy wow. Credit score yo, yo, man, six seventy eight hundred. 307 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 4: I gonna the people taking this stuff seriously. We're starting 308 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: to change the game. So one, get the book, mark 309 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: it up, write, make comments, have a family meeting once 310 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 4: a week with your family, talk about I joke about this, 311 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: but I'm serious. You go to club and you meet somebody, 312 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 4: she's fine, he's handsome, that's cool. Oh yeah, what's your 313 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 4: credit score? And I'm only partially kidding because if you 314 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 4: get serious about that person, that's your business partner for life. Right, 315 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: the looks are gonna fade, the body's gonna drop, right, 316 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: But that person's better have common sense. If two plus 317 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 4: two does not equal six, eight or ten in a relationship, 318 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: what the heck are you doing? If you're not better together, 319 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: what are you doing? I can do better all by myself, 320 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: doctor King once said, he said, I refuse to finance 321 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: my own oppression. And Quincy Jones court again, the only 322 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: thing worse than being alone is wishing that you were. 323 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: So if you're not in a relationship with somebody who 324 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: adds to you, even if it's a casual relationship, what 325 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: are you doing? Get the toxicity out of your life. 326 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: If you hang around nine broke people, you'll be the tenth. Understand, 327 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: you're an eagles surrounded by buzzes and turkeys. Eagles don't 328 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: fly in packs. So start looking at you, your posse, 329 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: your group, and then be really nosy. When you walk 330 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: down the street in Manhattan, all these buildings, those is 331 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: not that's not JP Morgan Chase. That's a dentist's office. 332 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: That's an attorney's office, that's an account's office. You can 333 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: get to those people. Go I know it sounds crazy, 334 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: go knock on a door. I'd love to be an intern. 335 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: I love fifteen minutes. Who's gonna give you? Who's gonna 336 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 4: deny you? Fifteen minutes? And all you want to do 337 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: is listen. God gave you two ears and one mouse. 338 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 4: You listen twice as much as you talk. I'm nosy 339 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: as hell. I don't want to know everything about everything. 340 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: You know? 341 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 4: Uh uh, you know my man Charlotte, he's nosy. I 342 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: call I call him asking him about stuff. He'll call me, Okay, 343 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 4: tell me about this. So and so. You know we're 344 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: not we're not afraid of the facts. We're not afraid 345 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: of knowledge. Right. You know he's talking about he's mainstreaming 346 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: mental health. Right now, that's the topic we all need 347 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: to be talking about. Right, So bye bye by a 348 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: ride making this talking about his family, talking about everything, 349 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: and go well talking, being humble at having a humility 350 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: about it. Well that it allows everybody else to have 351 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: permission to begin the role model that right, So we 352 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: need to we model what we see. We need to 353 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: start row modeling. Folks who have the capacity to write 354 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 4: a check, not just cash it, who build wealth, not 355 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: just make some money making a living. It's literally making 356 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: a living, is what is It's all you're doing. You're 357 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 4: not building a life. So this stuff is so easy. 358 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: But no one's ever taught us. There's nothing wrong with us. 359 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: We're not dumb and we're not stupid. When the rules 360 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: are publishing a playfielders level, we kill it. Professional sports, 361 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 4: the arts, politics, music, music, entertainment, music, church. Well we're 362 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: starting with business. But where the rules of publishing playing 363 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 4: those level, we kill it. We have not been told 364 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: the rules on free enterprise and capitalism. That has to 365 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: become all of our roles. And when you write there, 366 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: you get this book. If you finished with it, go 367 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: donate it into your family's name to the local library. 368 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: Go to a title I school. Your name's in the 369 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: book now and you donated to that, and you're going 370 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: to teach in that classroom. And now you're the role 371 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: model in the hero and she row. We can start 372 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: a whole new movement, not in the streets, in the suite. 373 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 6: My favorite question to your point is about asking questions. 374 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 6: I'll stop a meeting and I'll say, wait, wait, stop, 375 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 6: explain that to me slowly, like I'm a third grader, 376 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 6: that's right, and you should not be embarrassed as that right, 377 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 6: you should be embarrassed if you don't ask that. And 378 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 6: if a business plan I can't really understand that in 379 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 6: five minutes, then I'm out. I want simplicity. Simplicity is 380 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 6: your best friend. 381 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: And what's crazy is the person you're talking to they 382 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: know you don't know. So I think and act like 383 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: asked the question, like what that means? Like why not 384 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: who got you into the franchise? 385 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: Game? 386 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: Well the roomor now is that you know y'all got 387 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: the cash ready, the body, Minnesota Timberwolves full owner ship. 388 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: So by the way, there's some things that he can't 389 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 4: talk about today, legal situation. He'll answer the question. He 390 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 4: can answer by the way. I loved by the way 391 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 4: there was like which franchise he owned so much? He 392 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 4: was like what you want? But there are some things 393 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: he won't be able to talk about today. 394 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 6: Just high level, I mean, just kind of my passion 395 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 6: for sports. I think if you talk to most athletes 396 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 6: and you do a secret poll, probably ninety percent or 397 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 6: more will tell you I would love to own part 398 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 6: of a team someday. Who doesn't want to convert from 399 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 6: player to owner, right that that's the American way. We 400 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 6: took a long run at the Mets and we came 401 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 6: in second to Steve Cohen, thank god, because he's doing 402 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 6: a phenomenal job. And we're having a great time with 403 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 6: the Timbleleves and the Links. Links almost won a championship 404 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 6: a couple of days ago. Came up a little short, 405 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 6: but very part of our of our young women. Look, 406 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 6: this is the the ultimate dream. To be in room 407 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 6: with Adam Silver and you know, thirty other owners. It's 408 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 6: pretty spectacular. I look at that and talk about imposter syndrome. 409 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 6: You're seeing Mark Cuban, You're seeing Jim Dolan, you're seeing 410 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 6: Tony Wrestler. You've seen guys like Mark Lazerie, people that 411 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 6: I've looked up and admired and studied my whole kind 412 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 6: of adult life. And now you're in the room with 413 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 6: them as colleagues. It's really an incredible feat And uh yeah, 414 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 6: I've been dreaming about it probably for a long time, 415 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 6: and finally made the move. 416 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: I just got to ask the sport question, since we 417 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: on sports, how about them, damn Yankees? 418 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 4: Man? 419 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: How does it feel to see what what's taking so 420 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 3: long to get back to and what do you think 421 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 3: about the Yankees Now? It seems like the Yankee not Yankees. 422 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: The base Baseball is more exciting now, it's it's I'm 423 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: watching the games more. The games are a lot faster, 424 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: it's fast pacing. So what is your what is your 425 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: your thoughts on baseball now? 426 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I'm so excited this is I can go 427 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 6: on and on about this, but I keep it tight. 428 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 6: I would say that baseball has needed this moment for 429 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 6: at least a decade. I'm so tired of people saying 430 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 6: baseball was born and old. Then look, we went through 431 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 6: a little bit, they got born, but give Commissioner Rob 432 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 6: Manford and Tony Clark, the head of the Union of 433 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 6: the players, and they came up with the clock right 434 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 6: and made it a lot better pace, made the bigger basis. 435 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 6: Now they look like Domino's Pizza right at base And 436 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 6: it's a game that's driven by markets and superstars in 437 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 6: tradition and history and this world series here has it all. 438 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 6: This is two franchises that have the two richest franchisees 439 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 6: in revenue and star power. Global Yankee may be the 440 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 6: number one franchise in the world. Dodgers may be top five, 441 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 6: and I'm talking about alive sports football, soccer name you know, yeah, yeah, 442 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 6: number one cowboy. The Yankees are in that top five, 443 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 6: right and when you look at the Yankees conglomerate, it's 444 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 6: well worth over ten billion. When you look at the Dodgers, 445 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 6: well worth over ten billion. Okay, I would there is. 446 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 6: Otani and Judge are two biggest stars as you can have. 447 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 6: You're gonna have probably fifteen million people watching Japan, another 448 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 6: fifteen or twenty watching here. The fan bases very interestingly, 449 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 6: It's interesting when you go to Dodger Stadium, there's three 450 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 6: type of fan bases. You have the corporate financial institutions 451 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 6: in Hollywood. You have the Mexicans that you know, god Les, 452 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 6: Fernando ven Azuel who died, he was a big pioneer 453 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 6: in that movement. And then the other third is now 454 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 6: Japanese and they're printing money like is no one's business. 455 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 6: Because Otani and obviously the success they've had with Mark Walters, 456 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 6: Todd Bowley, they have an incredible ownerships traded for but 457 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 6: they've had one championship in thirty seven years. The Yankees 458 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 6: have one championship in twenty four years, so both franchise 459 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 6: are going to be starving. Tickets that to John today 460 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 6: are going for forty thousand dollars behind home played one ticket, 461 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 6: so if you want to that's eighty grand eighty grand 462 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 6: beers probably four thousand. So it's it's gonna be the 463 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 6: most watched World Series as the Cubs and you want 464 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 6: you won that. The last one was nine so we 465 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 6: haven't been there in fifteen years, So bring the glory 466 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 6: days back to the Bronx. 467 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's old Tony, the best baseball player ever. Let 468 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: me let me let me say why. I have never 469 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: seen in my life that I watched baseball a pitcher 470 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: as a designated hitter, to hit that many home runs, 471 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: to steal that many bases, and a manager allowing the 472 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: pitcher to do it, because usually you're scared because you 473 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: don't want the pitcher to get hit by a pitch. 474 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: You don't want him to hurt his own while he's sliding, 475 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: you don't wan him to hurt his leg while he's running. 476 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: But he does it all and he's amazing doing it. 477 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 6: You know what's amazing. He's also six foot five and 478 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: is the fastest guy on the field and he also 479 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 6: throws one hundred miles an hour. But I would say 480 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 6: this he's I don't know if he's the best because 481 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 6: it's too early. I mean, Barry Bonds was the baddest 482 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 6: son of a bitch I've ever seen on a field. 483 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 6: I mean, he is one bad sucker, right, And the 484 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 6: uniqueness about Otani is he's Barry Bonds man, married with 485 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 6: Roger Clemens, and he's won. So is he the best hitter? 486 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 6: I would still put Barry Bonds probably a bit ahead 487 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 6: of him. Is he a better picture? I will still 488 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 6: put Clement on the top of him. But combined it's 489 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 6: only a class of two Otani and Babe Ruth Jesus. 490 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 7: My question, I don't know much about the players. It's 491 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 7: not about the players. My question is about It's back 492 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 7: to the family stuff you were talking about. My first 493 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 7: thought was, so that moment with your mom changed your 494 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 7: thoughts on money and building money in family. How do 495 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 7: you keep now you got all these franchises and all 496 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 7: this stuff, how do you keep like you take care 497 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 7: of a lot of people, But how do you set 498 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 7: your boundaries where it's like no, because you got to 499 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 7: keep the money to make the money, But you also 500 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 7: grew up watching so many people not have like what's 501 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 7: that battle like for you? 502 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 503 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 6: You from uptown, so you yeah, it's a great question. 504 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 6: So in our company, look, we started with one of 505 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 6: the duplex about twenty plus years ago, and then we 506 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 6: bought a four plex and an a plex, and over 507 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 6: the last twenty years we bought about five billion dollars 508 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 6: of multifamily apartments, hotel, single family houses. So we've gone 509 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 6: from little mom and pop to mid cap to institutional level. 510 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 6: I have five direct reports in my company, and the 511 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 6: good news about them, they're always smarter than I am. 512 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 6: So we vet things and we talk about what are 513 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 6: the things that are important to us. We only play 514 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 6: in places where we bring more than capital, right well, 515 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 6: as an example, baseball would be a place that we 516 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 6: bring more than capital because we have a certain expertise there. 517 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 6: Basketball is just another you know sports, right, So we 518 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 6: we were good there, but the circle of competence is 519 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 6: very small, and if it doesn't hit that bullseye, we're 520 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 6: not looking at it. Because the number one thing you 521 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 6: have to have in business is discipline. Understand who you 522 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 6: are and what you do, and do it over and 523 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 6: over and over and over. Again unto your border with it. 524 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 4: About family, I'm talking about. 525 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 7: I'm talking about personally, like with grandma or you know 526 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 7: today like you're you're you're also the celebrity right right, 527 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 7: and people your family your booze. They don't understand what 528 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 7: you're saying. The discipline. They just see what they need 529 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 7: and they call you. How do you be Like, no, 530 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 7: I can't do that. That makes no sense discipline. 531 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 6: So, first of all, I'm almost fifty now, so I've 532 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 6: had a lot of learning experience. I would say when 533 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 6: I was in my twenties and thirties, that was a 534 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 6: lot more challenging, right, But now when you're running businesses, 535 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 6: you can give people opportunities where they can win. So 536 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 6: as an example, my sister does on my personal real estate. 537 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 6: So if I'm buying a house for you know, a dollar, 538 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 6: she's making you know, three percent of that or six 539 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 6: percent of that, and my brother does. 540 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: But they got to be to be competent. 541 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 6: They know my I don't play that game. You got 542 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 6: to be by the book. There's no nepotism. I'm a 543 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 6: very tough boss, I would say that. But here are 544 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 6: the rules, rules of engagement, and you played by them. 545 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 6: You're gonna get first bid, and if you perform, I'm 546 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 6: going to come back to you over and over again. 547 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 6: If you don't performed, I have no problem quickly pivoting quickly, 548 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 6: and it's not personal. It's business right now when my 549 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 6: mom calls. 550 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: Or whatever. 551 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: But was there ever a time where you had to 552 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: explain the people the business meaning like they just reported 553 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: I was Robergez gets one hundred million dollar contract and 554 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: somebody comes to you and ask you for something like, bro, 555 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: I got to pay taxes, I gotta pay manage. 556 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 5: Do you have to explain that? 557 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 4: Oh? 558 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Now, thank God for me. I guess is 559 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 6: I don't have a huge family. It's really worth family 560 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 6: of five, right, my mom, cousin and the three of us. 561 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 6: We're all the siblings, so we keep it tight and 562 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 6: they've grown with me and they do great work and 563 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 6: they work hard. And I'm really blessed to have people 564 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 6: that really understand money and they have great work as 565 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 6: it comes from my mom. And on that aspect, I've 566 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 6: been pretty fortunate. 567 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 5: Can you expound on something John? With that that a 568 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 5: Rod said? He said, bringing to the situation more than capital. 569 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: He want to be with situations want to be involved 570 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: in situations where you bring more than capital. 571 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, well most. I mean the word capital comes from 572 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 4: the work the Latin root word copy tass knowledge in 573 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 4: the head. The word credit comes from the latter word 574 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: credit though, which is credibility has nothing to do with money. 575 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 4: Banking actually is a trust business. That's not that. It's 576 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: about do I trust you do? Do you have credibility? 577 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 4: And do you have the knowledge? You have the understanding relationship? 578 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: Capital is really the real capital. I mean, what's a 579 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 4: country club? Why do you go to Harvard? Is Harvard 580 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 4: is gonna make you smarter than the state university? Maybe 581 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 4: maybe not. The glass of twenty twenty four is going 582 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: to hook each other up for the next forty years. 583 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: So that's why you go to a country club. That's 584 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 4: why you go to a private club. That's why. That's 585 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: why any any hook, any small group is. That's why 586 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: you go to college other than the education. Is that 587 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 4: that So you got to figure out what your capital is. 588 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 4: You got to figure out who your circle is. That's 589 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 4: why I said earlier, if you hang around nine broke people, 590 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 4: you're gonna be the tenth. So you've got to you know, 591 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 4: you look at who who it runs hanging around. He 592 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: didn't mention a bunch of people he mentioned. We both mentioned. 593 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 4: We both saw him last week magic magics working a 594 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: business suit. These days, anybody in sports or entertainment now 595 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: with your canvas, everybody who comes through here, anybody in sports, entertainment, 596 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: whether be in front of them. Billion did it in business, 597 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 4: they translated, you can't sell enough. You cannot sell enough 598 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 4: concert tickets. You cannot get enough a big enough contract 599 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: to become a billionaire. That's not the way income works. 600 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: You got to translate that into business. Every literally every 601 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: athlete and every entertainer. Jay Z Business, Michael Jordan, Michael 602 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 4: Jordan business, doctor, Dre Beats beat business. My man has 603 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: got a billion dollar portfolio. That's why he can just 604 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 4: be so cool and just you know, understated. Don't need 605 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: to scream in Holly, you got the power, you don't 606 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 4: need to use it right. So it is about getting 607 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 4: your mind right. All poverty, Charlemagne, beyond sustenance, poverty, roof 608 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: over your head, food on the table, reasonable healthcare, all 609 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: other poverty's mindset. That's why I say there's a difference 610 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 4: between being broken being poor. Being broken is economic, but 611 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: being poor is a disabling frame of mind, a depressed 612 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 4: condition of your spirit. You must vow never to be 613 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: poor again. We need The first thing you do is 614 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 4: get your mind right, and then the money will follow. 615 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: Now for parents listening, and now, when is a good 616 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: time to start getting your kids involved in financial literacy? 617 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 4: When you start breathing. So when you start spending money, 618 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 4: I mean you spending money twenty four hours a day 619 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 4: when you sleep, you're spending money. The bed shets the 620 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: government did buy the bed sheets, the government. By the 621 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 4: alarm clock, you did that. The governments not paying for 622 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: your light bill? Right, So check this out. We have 623 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: a kid's account in Atlanta public schools Operation Hope. By 624 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 4: the way, everybody can go get financial coaching scholarship from 625 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 4: the compan of the breakfast club. Coll Operation Hope will 626 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 4: give you a thousand dollars free scholarship just because you 627 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 4: mentioned breakfast club to get coaching accounts and get your 628 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: credit card. Right. So we have it with Mayor Andre 629 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 4: Dickens in Atlanta. We have a kid's account in kindergarten. 630 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: Uh fifty bucks in the kids account. Now you may say, 631 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: what's the big deal of that? If you have a 632 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 4: bank account. At kindergarten, you're fifty percent more likely to 633 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 4: go to college. Hold on a minute, watch check this 634 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: out to jamb you. We have fifty dollars in that 635 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: account in kindergarten, you're seventy five percent more likely to 636 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 4: graduate from college. Because now you're connecting education with aspiration. 637 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: The kid, the lights on the kid's head. Now you're 638 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: talking about stocks and bonds and investment, and I mean 639 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: don't and don't put, don't create an investment account, don't 640 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 4: get a rod or me or you you know to come, 641 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: you know, don't DJ and be going and talking about cars, 642 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 4: you know, talking about because what is technology these days? 643 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: Right? 644 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 4: Talk about it? But through that it's investment. Now. Now, 645 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: now these kids, you hooked them, right, So it's about 646 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 4: role modeling. It's about the language of money at the 647 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: earliest age. Because it's the aspiration generation. We can literally 648 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 4: build the next generation of America. We have to, by 649 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 4: the way, because we're going to be a majority of 650 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: minorities literally if we don't do that, as country is done. 651 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: But we can do that at kindergarten with a fifty 652 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 4: dollars hope savings. 653 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 6: Let me add to John's Anton and I agree with everything. 654 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 6: He said, I'll give you a real life example. So 655 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 6: I remember I have two daughters. That's and Ella. Natasha 656 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 6: is a sophomore at Michigan today. Ella's a junior in 657 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 6: high school. I remember when they were in kindergarten in 658 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 6: second grade, and I said, all right, girls, here's the deal. 659 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 6: Every day Pop drives you to school, I'm going to 660 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 6: give you three business lessons, and on Friday be ready 661 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 6: to pick your five companies for a portfolio. I'm going 662 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 6: to put one thousand dollars in each one of your accounts. 663 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 6: And they were confused, and I said, well, you're overthinking it. 664 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 6: Give me five products that you use every day while 665 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 6: I use my phone Apple. Are you on Instagram? Not yet, 666 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 6: but I know what that is, okay, meta social media 667 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 6: Google because I google things. They wanted to get CVS, 668 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 6: souse that's where mom takes them, and one more maybe 669 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 6: Disney and I put one thousand dollars every year. So 670 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 6: it's not really about big numbers. It's really about the 671 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 6: practice of the habit of honing your craft. You look 672 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 6: to today. Both their accounts got over one hundred and 673 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 6: fifty thousand, right, and they've all done the performance of 674 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 6: some of the smartest hedge fund people in the world 675 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 6: because they kind of didn't overthink it. They thought really 676 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 6: fundamentally about what they used. But they now, by the way, 677 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 6: by the time they were June freshman in high school, 678 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 6: like that, no more business, we're done. We're sick. But 679 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 6: now I hear him, as you know many adults, and 680 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 6: they're repeating my language that they learned first grade, second grade, 681 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 6: third grade. Although they were fighting it, they were absorbing it. 682 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: You know. 683 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: The biggest thing, I'm sorry, The biggest thing that my son, 684 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 3: who's nine, the thing that I love is my son 685 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: watches Shark Tank. So he's nine, so he doesn't know 686 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: you for baseball, he knows you from Shark And then 687 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: and like I was talking on the phone, was talking 688 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: to business to somebody, and he started asking me questions 689 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: that I know that he got from someplace else. 690 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: I said this the other day. He was asking me, so, Dad, 691 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: how much equity do you get in that deal? 692 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 5: I'm like, where do you get that from? 693 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 4: Who? 694 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: And then he was like, well what about He was 695 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: like WHOA. I said, well, where did you hear about equity? 696 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: And he's telling me Shark Tank and he was like, yeah, 697 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 3: I want to know what royalty fees are and this, 698 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: that and the other and not. 699 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: I was like, I just want to play baseball. But 700 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: you know, it was just it was great that they 701 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: have these type of shows. And I know you got 702 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: to go. 703 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: I know you a question. 704 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I do have a question. So y'all are talking 705 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 7: about your families and y'all kids, and these two always 706 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 7: talk about how when they locked into their marriages, everything 707 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 7: like flourish for them. You talk about your baby girls 708 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 7: a lot. Last time you were here, you were talking 709 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 7: engagement with j Lo. I know you're right now dating Jacqueline. 710 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 7: Is engagement? 711 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: Marriage? 712 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 7: Is that a conversation for you right now? 713 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 6: Like? 714 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 7: How does that? Where does that fit in all this 715 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 7: business in the portfolios? 716 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 6: Well, I'm very lucky to have an incredible person in 717 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 6: my life. Jack's Canadian. She's right outside of Detroit, which 718 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 6: is very beneficial because my daughter goes to Scoot Michigan. 719 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 6: So I got two for the price of one's already 720 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 6: cutting a good deal. So she's twenty minutes from Detroit. 721 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 6: She's a former nurse. She's transitioned her nursing to an 722 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 6: incredible business called Jack fit where she helps out you know, 723 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 6: a thousands of women online get a better life. I 724 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 6: personally lost thirty pounds because of her. I haven't really 725 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 6: thought about that. This is really the best place I've 726 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 6: been in my life. I'm very fortunate, grate photo be 727 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 6: where I am. I'm helping out tons of people involved, 728 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 6: like you said, with the Timbles and the Links and 729 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 6: doing my Fox deal with the Yankees and the Dodgers, 730 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 6: and I'm open to anything, but right now, I'll let 731 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 6: you know if there's some big announcement coming, maybe they 732 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 6: come back. 733 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: I would think it would be difficult for you to 734 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: trust anybody, and really you know what I mean, like romantically, 735 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: just because you are a rod so the celebrity within 736 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: the money like it's hard. 737 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 6: It's hard for sure, but you know, you take your time, 738 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 6: you try to surround yourself with people that are better 739 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 6: than you. And but there's no question it's difficult. 740 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: Now that man is married John O'Brien. 741 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Shade Form. And you know, I've known her 742 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: for twenty five years, we've been married for six. She 743 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 4: has no agenda. She just loves me, like and you 744 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 4: can feel it, right, And it's hard to trust people 745 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 4: because you know, you're You're not a person to them, 746 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 4: You're just an opportunity to us. You're a cash register. 747 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 4: And I and I've I've had people like try to 748 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 4: take me down because they didn't get what they wanted. 749 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 4: So that makes you really skittish. But you know, if 750 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 4: you have the right relationship, as I said earlier, two 751 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 4: plus two equals six eight or ten, it really does 752 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 4: enhance your life and roots you and ground you, and 753 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 4: they love you no matter what ups and downs, by 754 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: the way, and so that. But that goes back to 755 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 4: Charlemagney what you said about your circle. You know, as 756 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 4: your world gets bigger, your circle should get smaller. As 757 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 4: your world gets bigger, your circle should get smaller. I 758 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 4: would love to talk about, very quickly a mistake that 759 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 4: I made because people hear about all these wins and 760 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: we're doing this and doing that, we don't you know, 761 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 4: they can't reunissarily relate to that. You know, I made 762 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 4: a mistake. Since I saw you last what you in business, 763 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 4: I saw a company, so technically it wasn't before I 764 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 4: saw you, because I saw the Promise Homes company two 765 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 4: years ago. But I just realized I made a mistake. 766 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 4: In the last month. So I invest just real talk. 767 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 4: I've never said this before, but I invested three and 768 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 4: a han million dollars in an investment account I put 769 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 4: in the market, and I tell people let it sit there. 770 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 4: And I messed up. I didn't take my own advice. 771 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 4: The market went crazy January twenty twenty two, interest rates 772 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 4: started going up twenty By March and April, the interrot 773 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: ration was still going up. Stocks were taking a beating. 774 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 4: I had just put my money in the account January 775 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. I had lost five hundred thousand dollars 776 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: in three months. So what did I do? Pulled it out. 777 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 4: I put it out and put it in treasury bills. 778 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 4: So I said it might take me to cash. I 779 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: took it all and put it in treasury bills and 780 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: just let it sit there. And so what happened? I 781 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 4: asked my broker, broker Rocketfeller account Management as a family office. 782 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: I asked him him two weeks ago. So I'm just 783 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 4: curious what would have happened if I had left it in, Well, 784 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 4: you would have lost another two hundred thousand dollars. So 785 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 4: I've been down seven hundred thousand dollars, which is you know, 786 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 4: hold on to your butt cheeks, right. But if you 787 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 4: but if you but dj envy, if you kept it in, 788 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: just let it sit there. This is the magic of markets. 789 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 4: If this is this, this. 790 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: Hurts John, You got to stop that edit is gonna 791 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: be crazy because he said hold on your budgets, dj vy, children, 792 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 793 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 5: It's gotta be another way to say, we understand. 794 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 2: What you said. 795 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: If you. 796 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 2: Don't know, they're gonna know. 797 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 5: He come out. 798 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 4: So, uh, this really hurt because the guy told me, 799 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 4: if I had just done nothing, just let it sit there, 800 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: let the markets do his thing, I'd have made the 801 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 4: seven hundred thousand dollars back and another seven hundred thousand 802 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 4: dollars on top of it out of double my money 803 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 4: over the losses. If I did nothing, this is the magic. 804 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: Why did you do that? 805 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: So? 806 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 4: So if I had had so by the way, I 807 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 4: don't lose it. I don't. I don't deny, I don't. 808 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 4: But I don't beat myself up about this decision because 809 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 4: if I had had money in the market in that account, 810 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,959 Speaker 4: it had made some profits, so it wasn't house money. 811 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 4: I would have left it in there because if I 812 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 4: lost my profits and that's fine. This was this was 813 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: core capital. My goal for this core capital was just 814 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 4: let it sit and it was the goal is money 815 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 4: was to be safe. So somebody might be thinking about 816 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 4: a four oh one K plan. They've got their employer, 817 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 4: or they got a thousand dollars in a SAVID account. 818 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 4: They don't want anybody to touch that, right, So think 819 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 4: about that in that example. So this was for me 820 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 4: that so I didn't I didn't need to make any money. 821 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: I just didn't want to lose any on that particular investment. 822 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 4: If I had made something, I would have left it there. 823 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: So in hindsight, statistically I made a mistake. But from 824 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 4: from what my priority was, which was safety and security 825 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 4: and not return, I'm completely cool with it. I'm just saying. 826 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 4: I'm just saying that as an investor, I tell people 827 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 4: put it in the market. Well, I say about homes, 828 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 4: buy it and don't sell it, right, It'll just go 829 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 4: up in value. I'm just giving I'm telling you, here's 830 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 4: a guy who is pretty good at the investment of 831 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 4: business game. And here's an example. Were recently I made 832 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 4: a mistake and pay for it. And the magic of 833 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,959 Speaker 4: markets you make money during the day, you build wealth 834 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 4: in your sleep sleeve. 835 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 7: I was going to ask why would you put safe 836 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 7: money on the market like that, because they also tell 837 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 7: you too, if it's something that you want to keep 838 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 7: safe and to not like, like you don't want to 839 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 7: lose it, you don't. 840 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: Play with it. 841 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 4: The three is a great It is a great conversation 842 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 4: and a right. If you have an example, or please 843 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 4: weigh in, there's three things that have never gone down 844 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 4: in American history. I'm so glad you asked this. GDP 845 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 4: Gross domestic Product of this country, the income, real estate values, 846 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 4: it's stock market value. It goes up. There's a recession. 847 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 4: All recession means is it recedes. It recedes, and if 848 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 4: you stick with it, it corrects above the line. What 849 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 4: people who are financially illiterate do is they get freaked out, 850 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 4: and they are and they sell it. Right. I had 851 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 4: a townhouse in la I bought it for two hundred 852 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 4: and twenty thousand, went down one hundred and some one 853 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 4: thousand dollars in two thousand and eight. You know, all 854 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: my friends were telling me, sal get rid of it, 855 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 4: they're broke. So I'm I didn't listening to event. I 856 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 4: kept it. It said seven one two lot to hair. 857 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 4: Somebody listening to this know exactly what I'm talking about. 858 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 4: A lot to hear in the airport I kept it 859 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 4: was fifteen hundred square feet. Oh yeah, I know there's that. 860 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 4: I rented out to a police officer who didn't pay 861 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 4: rent on time, but but I but he paid ultimately, 862 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 4: he paid me. I paid the property taxes. I forgot 863 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 4: about it. Five years later, I'm trying to buy a 864 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 4: property for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars, Like, where 865 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 4: can I get seven fifty from? I called my my 866 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 4: my broker, black real estate broker in LA. I want 867 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 4: you to sell this condo for me. Mind you, I 868 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 4: bought it for two twenty it was last time I 869 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 4: checked it was one fifty one eighty. What can I 870 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 4: get for that seven to fifty? All I did was 871 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 4: let it sit there and it just went up in value. 872 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 4: So I did a ten thirty one tax free exchange, 873 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 4: took the home and I'm allowed to hear it sold 874 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 4: up seven fifty. Bought the other property for free with 875 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 4: no tax impact. So you just don't go wrong investing 876 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 4: in the biggest economy, the sole superpower in the world, 877 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 4: the flight, the quality people in China talking mess about us. 878 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 4: They're investing here, Folks in Russia talking messing about us. 879 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,479 Speaker 4: They're investing here, Iran, all these places talking mess about 880 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 4: us in front of the camera. All of these folks, 881 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 4: including Putin, investing in America. So we have this great 882 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 4: thing in front of us called the soul, superpower in 883 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 4: the world, the biggest economy, and most of us are 884 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 4: not taking advantage of it. So I love the stock market. 885 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 4: Everything that you love is publicly traded. I got traded yet, 886 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 4: but well maybe we can take you public. 887 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 6: Well, you know what I was gonna say is, like 888 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 6: you know, Lauren, to answer your question is money is 889 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 6: not emotional. 890 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 4: That's it. 891 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 6: Money doesn't care who owns it or who what pockets 892 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 6: in the emotional ones are the humans. And what John 893 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 6: Hope is talking about is something that Americans do is 894 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 6: they panic when things go down. But when you see 895 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 6: guys like Tony Wrestler, Warren Buffett or greatest investing in 896 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 6: the world, Tony Tony, when when John is selling that 897 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 6: situation one, but Warren Buffett is buying and buying a 898 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 6: lot of it. So if you can remove your emotions 899 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 6: from investing, which is really hard to do and counterintuitive. 900 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 6: Money doesn't care about you as long as you know 901 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 6: that and you're playing the long game and know that 902 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 6: along the long way you're gonna have some hiccups. How 903 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 6: do emotion that you're going to be prepared to do 904 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 6: that and not overreact? 905 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 4: Right? 906 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 6: But when things go down, do you have you know, 907 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 6: the guts to kind of go in and makeing sure 908 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 6: you understand the business and what you're doing, right? I 909 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 6: would suggest do this with a professional, but thinking about 910 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 6: a philosophy big picture, before it happens, it is being prepared. 911 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 6: It's like in baseball, I'm thinking if this ball gets 912 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 6: hit to me or to Jeter on the thrower, to 913 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 6: C C or whatever. Same thing with markets. If I 914 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 6: have four million dollars four hundred thousand or four thousand 915 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 6: and the market goes to three thousand, what am I 916 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 6: going to do? Am I going to You got to 917 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 6: know that before it happens and anticipate and have a 918 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 6: little bit more of a proactive approach. 919 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 4: Now, by the way, on that example to what again, 920 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 4: he's a hurtdress writings like doubled down on a good 921 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 4: investment the same time I pulled out of that investment. 922 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 4: With the cash, I bought some real estate in another 923 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 4: country tuks and kkos. I bought it for two million 924 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 4: in the same time period. It's now worth three point 925 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 4: six million. So I lost a little bit here on return, 926 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 4: but I gained over here, almost doubling my money on 927 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 4: real estate secured real estate, and so I achieved my objective, 928 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 4: just not in the way that Yeah, in different ways. 929 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 3: I was going to ask for somebody listening, maybe possibly 930 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 3: thinking about buying their first property, their first investment property, 931 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: or even at first house, or even thinking about refinancing 932 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 3: the home that they have. What do you say to them? 933 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 3: Do they wait until after the election, Because a lot 934 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 3: of people are saying wait to have the election, this, that, 935 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 3: and yet, But what do you say to somebody that's 936 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 3: trying to buy a home right now? Interest rates shot 937 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 3: up since COVID. I'm sure we're never gonna get to 938 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 3: two point nine percent ever. 939 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 5: Again in life. 940 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 3: So what do you say to those individuals listening right 941 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 3: now that thinking about buying their first investment property, their 942 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: first home, or even refinancing at home. 943 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 4: I have a strong opinion, but go ahead, you go first, Well. 944 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 6: I would say, Look, I have a different outlook when 945 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 6: it comes to houses, I don't think houses is necessarily 946 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 6: an investment. Is an investment to your lifestyle is an investment, 947 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 6: and for a lot of Americans, it is your biggest investment, 948 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 6: right because it's the biggest asset you own, and you 949 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 6: got usually a seventy seventy five percent mortgage or whatever 950 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 6: it is. But I would say, buy a home that 951 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 6: you can afford. Buy a home and locking your rates, 952 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 6: so I like locking in for five or seven years, 953 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 6: so I know exactly I'm almost renting the house. I 954 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 6: know exactly what my well, my nut's going to be 955 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 6: every month. Right, that's really important. And I would say, 956 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 6: buy a house, are you going to be happy in? 957 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 6: They're gonna be able to raise your kids, They're gonna 958 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 6: be safe. And locking your interest rates and understand that 959 00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 6: you have to be able to afford these payments no 960 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 6: matter what happens, right, and give yourself a margin of error, 961 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 6: right of safety net. But I do think that interest 962 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 6: rates could lower. But I'm not into timing markets when 963 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 6: it comes to my personal houses. But I defer to job. 964 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 3: But to say that, I would always say that to 965 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: people that are looking for their first property, if they 966 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 3: necessarily don't know enough scared. I always would say get 967 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 3: a multi unit, right, because that way they can rent 968 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 3: out other units and make sure that they can pay 969 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 3: their bills until their more successful, take the equity out 970 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: and get their own property. That's why I would say 971 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 3: multi unit. What's your thoughts on that? 972 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 4: So the key, the key is what Alex she said 973 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 4: was he said houses, Okay, So this is a whole 974 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 4: other situation, don't That's why he's not all in the 975 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 4: houses as an investment. He's got houses plural. That's a 976 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 4: different tax. Brackett, the average person listening to this, please 977 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 4: listen to me. As fast as you can buy a home. 978 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 4: The number one way you build was in America, it's 979 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 4: home ownership. The average African American with forty one forty 980 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 4: forty three percent of us own a home compared to 981 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 4: seventy five percent of our white counter parts that thirty 982 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 4: percent delta. That difference is massive home ownership and prices 983 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,919 Speaker 4: are not going down. When I started buying those seven 984 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 4: hundred homes from the Promise Homes Company. By the way, 985 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 4: Tony Resler was one of my partners in Michael Raghetti, 986 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 4: who we've been talking about a couple here, a couple 987 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 4: of times here, good guys. I ran it up to 988 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty million dollars of assets under management. 989 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 4: That particular portfolio I bought for eighty eight thousand. I 990 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 4: sold them at three hundred and fifty thousand. No one 991 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 4: moved the house. It was no genius to it. It's 992 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 4: a magic of compounding. And so if these they're not 993 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 4: growing anymore. Land a lot most of the places where 994 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 4: we live are inner cities. What's an inner city in 995 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 4: France It's called Paris. What's an inner city in Britain 996 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 4: it's called the UK. Like, we have centrally located real 997 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 4: estate and we're walking away from it to rent to 998 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 4: from somebody we don't know, to spend money. We don't 999 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 4: have to impress people we don't know, to talk about 1000 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 4: stuff that don't matter, like knock it off by the 1001 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 4: worst house and the best block in the hood d 1002 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 4: a hyphen e the hood adjacent. Buy it near transportation, economy, 1003 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 4: economic activity, activity, and a vibrant environment. Buy it, rehabit, 1004 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 4: live in it, use equity in a couple of years later, 1005 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 4: and buy I know you know what I'm talking about here. 1006 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 4: Djmv by the second home three years later. You do 1007 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 4: that three times over five to six years. This is 1008 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 4: my mother's story, worked in an hourly job. You're a millionaire, 1009 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 4: and you can get the down payment through the Earningcome 1010 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 4: Tax Credit. Right. You can go to Operation Hope to 1011 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 4: we can help you get qualified for EITC. If you're 1012 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 4: making thirty eight thousand dollars and have three children, the 1013 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 4: government owes you about seven thousand dollars cash. So you 1014 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 4: just gave everybody listening to this who makes thirty eight 1015 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 4: thousand dollars a check and it's retroactive for three years. 1016 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 4: If you never filed, that's almost twenty thousand dollars. There's 1017 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 4: your down payment right there, right, so we can and 1018 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 4: to get your credit score up, get your debt down, 1019 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 4: get your savings up, get into that house because it 1020 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 4: costs just as much to rent as it does at 1021 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 4: paying mortgage payment. You're right, Interest rates to two percent 1022 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 4: not coming back. That's fine. Four percent, five percent is 1023 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 4: just fine. That's still very very Hello, but prices are 1024 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 4: not coming down. I'm gonna wait, no, no, no, don't wait, 1025 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 4: it's gonna get worse, it gonna get more expensive. Buy 1026 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 4: right now, let me go. 1027 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 6: Why want to add one thing to that? Because I 1028 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 6: think when it comes to finance, especially in our communities, 1029 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 6: people get foggy, and the listeners they're so smart that 1030 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 6: they don't even believe, they don't even understand how smart 1031 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 6: they are. Problem is, America has kind of confused them 1032 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 6: with all these acronyms and you know, ROI and all 1033 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 6: these like fancy terms, you know, And what they have 1034 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 6: to understand is their gut and their instincts is the 1035 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 6: best asset. They have the best asset classes talent number one. 1036 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 6: But I'm gonna do something here. What's your favorite basketball 1037 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 6: player of all time? Me? Yeah, just name one? Lebron, Lebron, MJ. Okay, perfect? 1038 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 4: All right. 1039 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 6: So in this case, if we were to say, all right, 1040 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 6: we're gonna go to the park and play two on 1041 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 6: two basketball, pick your partner and you're gonna want a 1042 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 6: million dollars. Okay, you pick Lebron, you pick MJ, you 1043 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 6: pick Iverson. You guys are all solid. Okay. Now we 1044 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 6: say the same drill and we say, okay, now you 1045 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 6: won a million dollars. Okay, who you gonna give it to? Oh? 1046 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 6: I grew up with a guy in high school and 1047 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,280 Speaker 6: I'm gonna give it to him. And I don't understand 1048 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 6: how in one case you're so intelligent by picking your partner, 1049 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 6: but when it comes to controlling your personal finances, which 1050 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 6: is the single most important decision you make besides your 1051 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 6: wife or your partner, right, is you go pick some 1052 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 6: high school guy that you know or some one that 1053 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 6: is basically a guy that didn't make it in Wall 1054 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 6: Street or didn't make it in Goldman Sacks or JP Morgan. 1055 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 6: So taking the same approach as going to play basketball, 1056 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 6: I'm picking the best the best. Go find the very 1057 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 6: very best, and it's okay if you pay him a 1058 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 6: little bit more. But you can't go wrong when you 1059 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,800 Speaker 6: pick the very best. And I find too many times 1060 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 6: people don't pick the Lebron James Michael Jordan or Allan 1061 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 6: Iverson to handle their money or to partner with. I 1062 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,959 Speaker 6: will tell your son, son, pause in that restaurant, who's 1063 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 6: the best restaurant people in the world. I have a 1064 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 6: great platform. I'm your dad. Let's go see if we 1065 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 6: can put five thousand and because they put it in 1066 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 6: five million, and put a shoulder to shoulder and don't 1067 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 6: cover me fees. Just let me and if that five 1068 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 6: thousand becomes fifteen thousand, then I can run it back 1069 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 6: and run it back. So the competitive advantage we all 1070 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 6: have to identify is, and with complete self awareness, is 1071 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 6: what is my weakness, my blind spots, and what are 1072 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 6: my assets. Well, for all three of you, you have 1073 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 6: an incredible platform. So if I have a company that 1074 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 6: needs eyeballs, I may come to you and say, hey, 1075 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 6: you guys want to throw in twenty five grand. Don't 1076 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 6: worry about big numbers. It really pisses me off because 1077 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 6: it's what kept my mother out of investments, right, And 1078 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 6: what we're trying to do is democratize this whole thing 1079 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,240 Speaker 6: and simplify it. It's both in opportunity and in verbiage. 1080 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 6: So if you have two thousand dollars and somebody like 1081 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 6: Tony Wrestlers put it in twenty million, say hey, Tony, 1082 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 6: can I put in two thousand? And I guarantee you 1083 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 6: a guy like Tony, I'll find a way to bring 1084 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 6: you along. 1085 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: I want to ask a question because I think sometimes 1086 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: we have these conversations, and we have these conversations from 1087 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: our perspectives. Right, well, y'all in a different tax bracket. 1088 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, everybody here, for the most part, 1089 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: has money. What about people who have no money? People 1090 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: from our communities who you have zero dollars? How do 1091 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: the poor even get to the middle class? 1092 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 6: I got you there. I mean, he's the master, but 1093 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna give you like really simple, right, Money 1094 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 6: is the easiest part to get. And I know this 1095 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 6: sounds crazy to the folks listening. Right, money there's over 1096 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 6: a trillion dollars sitting in the sidelines looking for great deals. 1097 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 6: So if you don't have money, can you find deal flow? 1098 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 6: Can you hustle? If you find me an asset that 1099 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 6: costs ten million dollars and you bring me you bring 1100 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,479 Speaker 6: it to me for eight, you basically own two million 1101 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 6: dollars of that one hundred percent. So if you bring 1102 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 6: me a ten million dollar deal, right, and I can 1103 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 6: buy it for eight, you say, hey, give me a 1104 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 6: million dollars on that. I'll give you because I'm still 1105 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 6: getting a million dollar discount. I'm paying nine for a 1106 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 6: ten million dollar asset, so I'm getting a discount. So 1107 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 6: looking for opportunities, understanding where the train is going, and you, 1108 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 6: as an entrepreneur, says, how do I get in the way? 1109 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 6: So when that train goes by, I can jump on 1110 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 6: and jump in that bandwagon. Right, it's creating opportunities. If 1111 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,240 Speaker 6: you find deals, you got money. 1112 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 5: Is that possible for everyday people to yah? 1113 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, you know. You can buy a You 1114 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 4: can open a fractional stock account and put in twenty 1115 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 4: five dollars to buy some stock. Now you spend that 1116 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 4: on Starbucks. You can do you can do ten ducks. 1117 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 4: You can do five bucks a fractional stock on any 1118 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 4: stock that you want. So there's no excuse if you 1119 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 4: want to get in this game. Operation Hope will help 1120 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 4: you again. If you're listening to the Breakfast Club, will 1121 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 4: give you a scholarship for coaching and counseling. We're gonna 1122 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 4: get your credit score up. The average credit scorer for 1123 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 4: black people, by the way, is six twenty. Latino's are 1124 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 4: a little above that, notch more, but that means half 1125 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 4: of us are locked out of the free enterprise system. 1126 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 4: You can't get a decent home loan at eating below 1127 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 4: seven hundred, can't get a decent auto loan below at 1128 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 4: six point fifty. You can't get a business loan at 1129 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 4: all unless you're seven hundred better. Because it's risky credit. 1130 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 4: So we think the issue is racism or discrimination. It 1131 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 4: might be, but it also might be that you don't 1132 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 4: understand there's a game, there's a credit box, and you're 1133 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 4: not in it. So the bank is like, you're just 1134 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 4: not a good credit risk. So what we've done is 1135 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 4: we know to get your credit score up, your debt down, 1136 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 4: your savings up with hope. So the bank will say yes. 1137 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 4: At midnight, the bank, the computer doesn't know what color 1138 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 4: you are, computer will say yes. Somebody's listening to this 1139 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 4: and saying, is he talking about debt. Yes, it's called 1140 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 4: good debt. Bad debt's financing jewelry. Good debt is financing 1141 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 4: a home, mortgage, financing a business, right, going into and 1142 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 4: investment with a rod to do a multi family apartment building, 1143 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 4: which is his bread and butter. So good debt is 1144 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 4: tied to something that might appreciate. Bad debt is tied 1145 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 4: something that will depreciate. Every billionaire you know has used 1146 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 4: good debt. Every city, our country that grows, including this one, 1147 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 4: has used good debt. There's nothing wrong with debt as 1148 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,399 Speaker 4: long as you're intelligently using it. The question about can 1149 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 4: any person win? I can make almost anybody a millionaire 1150 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 4: if you follow Again, he talked about basically good habits, 1151 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,800 Speaker 4: being disciplined. If you come to Operation Hope and you 1152 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 4: follow our plan, within five years, you're a working class perkin. 1153 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 4: Making forty eight thousand dollars. We will give you a 1154 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 4: plan and make you a millionaire in five years is 1155 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 4: not complicated. But you have to have discipline, You have 1156 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 4: to live below your means, you have to understand this game. 1157 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 4: You've got to be financially literate, and everybody can be 1158 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 4: a winner at this game. I'd love to come back 1159 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,439 Speaker 4: at some point. We need to talk about a whole 1160 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 4: this whole thing or relationship capital which you talked about 1161 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 4: a little bit like behind all of us is a backer, 1162 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 4: a partner that we're not talking about magic has it. 1163 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 4: I know who they are, and I mentioned I love 1164 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 4: talking about Tony Wrestler and Michaelreaghetty, right they they they 1165 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 4: backed me eighty million dollars and I paid them back 1166 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 4: plus seven percent. 1167 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 7: It's important because our community feel like capitalists. You said 1168 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 7: talk about making smart sexy. They feel like that's a 1169 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 7: bad thing. A lot of people, not everybody, but a 1170 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 7: lot of people in our community feel like capitalism is 1171 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 7: a horrible thing. Having people back you as a horrible 1172 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 7: thing as well too. 1173 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, so people say let's go for and set further. 1174 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,399 Speaker 4: Oh I hate rich people. No, you don't. You hate 1175 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 4: rich people to you become rich. What you hate is 1176 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,959 Speaker 4: a game system. To your point, right, what you hated. 1177 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 4: The system is rigged so that you don't think you 1178 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 4: can succeed. The money's not evil. It's the love of 1179 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 4: money that's evil. It's the greed and Bashiaror Andrew Young 1180 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 4: says that men and women fail for three reasons arrogance, pride, 1181 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 4: and greed. What did Malcolm X say? We've been bamboozled, 1182 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 4: We've been tricked, We've been food, We've been hoodwink We've 1183 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 4: been hoodwinked. On this topic black people. I'm picking on 1184 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 4: black people because I'm black. We have never had an 1185 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 4: economic infrastructure in the history of us being here. That's 1186 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 4: our problem. Govern's not gonna save you. Even if you 1187 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 4: want to distribute the money like a socialist, you gotta 1188 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 4: collect it like a capitalist. So we have got to 1189 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 4: what's the entertainment business? The business of entertainment. The sports 1190 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 4: business is the business of sports. What we don't understand 1191 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 4: is the business. I'm gonna give you a I've never 1192 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 4: said this, and it's builds on Alison what you were saying. 1193 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give everybody here free game. Jay Z's did 1194 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 4: basically a financial literacy album called four four four. You say, 1195 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a min dolls with a game 1196 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 4: for nine ninety nine. This is No. Ninety nine. There 1197 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 4: are about one hundred trillion dollars about to co hit 1198 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 4: the market in the next ten years. All these baby 1199 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 4: boomers are retiring at the same time. They're gonna give 1200 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 4: their cash in their stock to their kids. They're gonna 1201 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 4: give their house to their family. Kids don't want the business. 1202 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 4: Those businesses have cash flow, client lists, real estate, a brand, 1203 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 4: their city. What Alex say, do you a minute ago 1204 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 4: bring me an asset for ten million that I can 1205 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 4: get for eight million, uh, and you have the upside 1206 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 4: between eight and ten. So these business So if you 1207 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 4: come to me and say I have a startup idea, 1208 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 4: give me a million dollars, get out of here. Right. 1209 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 4: You come to me and say, I've got a business 1210 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 4: that's got a million dollars of cash flow, that's got 1211 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 4: a that's got an evaluation of ten million dollars, will 1212 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 4: you finance that the acquisition? So one time, one time, 1213 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 4: so revenue, it's got ten million dollars in this example 1214 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 4: says ten million dollars of revenue, Well, you've somebod ads 1215 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 4: a no nine million dollar acquisition. The answer to that 1216 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 4: is absolutely yes. Non recourse mean, no personal guarantee. Wall 1217 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 4: Street does that all there. It's called private equity. So 1218 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 4: you got literally trains of dollars for the businesses that 1219 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 4: are about to hit the market. And people listening to 1220 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 4: this can go become capitalists right now with an existing 1221 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 4: cash flow business, existing assets, existing employees. Not no risk, 1222 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 4: but low risk because it's already successful. So we need 1223 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 4: to stop being self employment projects because ninety six percent 1224 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 4: of all black businesses don't have an employee. I don't 1225 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 4: know what the Latino numbers are, but you but again, 1226 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 4: you bill wealth and your sleep is compounding. This is 1227 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 4: a huge opportunity. 1228 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 5: So if you have. 1229 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 6: And sports are so easy, I always use sports is 1230 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,760 Speaker 6: a great metaphor because the teachers are about life and business. 1231 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 6: Right if you say you know who's a better basketball player, 1232 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 6: Shock or John, where they walk in the room immediately 1233 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 6: one hundred percent will say shot right. Business is exact opposite. 1234 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 6: Like if let's say you have four thousand bill airs 1235 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,879 Speaker 6: in the world today, four thousand just for a number, 1236 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,439 Speaker 6: and you say, everyone pressed the lead, everyone goes to zero, 1237 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 6: the math will tell us, and the signs wild tell us, 1238 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 6: and that data would tell us that in ten years 1239 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 6: you'll have basically the same four thousand billionaires again. Because 1240 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 6: what it is, like shaq, is a set of skills, 1241 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 6: and is an ear and is a rewiring of the brain. 1242 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 6: So all of us here walk into opportunities every single day, 1243 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 6: but it's taking your eyeballs and your brain and your 1244 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 6: ears to think about opportunities when you hear them. So 1245 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 6: you hear opportunities all the time. You know, poor guy 1246 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 6: and a rich guy go through a bad neighborhood. The 1247 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 6: poor guy goes, God, what a terrible neighborhood. I wouldn'tver 1248 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 6: want to live here. The rich guy goes, let's try 1249 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 6: to see if we can buy all this up on 1250 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 6: a cheap, because in ten years you're going to be different. 1251 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 6: You go to a barber shop and you hear through 1252 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 6: a terrible divorce, and you hear this gossip all the time, 1253 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 6: and you guys are here. Man, what a terrible situation. 1254 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 6: I have to sell their house, I have to sell 1255 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 6: their car. If you're an entrepreneur in the ear, you hear, oh, 1256 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 6: that might be an opportunity. Well maybe I can, not 1257 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 6: to take advantage of anyone, but you have to sell 1258 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 6: your house quickly. Maybe I can provide a quick buy 1259 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 6: and sell for you off market. Right, and there goes 1260 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 6: that seven million dollars deal for ten Right. So it's 1261 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 6: about rewiring of the brain and looking at opportunities and 1262 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 6: not looking at problems, because problems is really opportunities. 1263 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 3: Well, ladies and gentlemen, John O'Brien, them is happening December 1264 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 3: ninth to the eleventh in Atlanta, Georgia. 1265 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 5: Miss I'll be there, that's right. 1266 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 4: We'll give you a minute. 1267 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 5: I'm sure you'll come. 1268 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 2: Back before that. 1269 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 4: All right. 1270 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 2: Well it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake that ass 1271 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 2: up in the morning. 1272 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club