WEBVTT - crime stat numbers under trump jack smith congress 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.960 Welcome in his verdict with Center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:06.400 with you, and it's so nice to have you with 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.240 uespecially if you are listing on the radio around the country. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.080 We've got a lot to discuss it happened this last week, 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:16.479 including some incredible crime stats that the media is not 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.040 connecting back to the policies of the Trump administration. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:23.840 Well, we have a big show today. We start with 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.880 the numbers that were just released that show murder rates 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.319 in the United States dropped more than twenty percent. That 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.800 is on top of data that just came out that 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:37.960 show drug overdose deaths dropped more than twenty percent. Both 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.199 of these this year compared to last year. We're going 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.320 to break down those numbers. We're going to talk about 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.960 why that's happening and how literally tens of thousands of 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:50.479 Americans are alive today because President Trump was reelected and 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.160 Republicans have control of both Houses of Congress. We're also 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.480 going to talk about Jack Smith's disastrous testimony before the 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.000 House of Representatives. He got up and brazen lead tried 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.280 to defend his abuse of power, and it did not 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.320 go well. 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A lot 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.000 of people not paying attention to it because why well, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.400 no one's covering it because it's good news. There are 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:47.200 fewer Americans that are becoming victims of crime, fewer people 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.959 in America that are being murdered. All of this because 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.600 of Donald Trump's leadership and trying to go into danger 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.800 cities and make them safer for all Americans. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:58.480 That's right. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.680 Let's start with crime, and what was released this week 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.680 is the latest murder rates, and the murder rates across 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:10.600 the United States decreased nationwide roughly twenty percent. And let's 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.240 put that in specific numbers. If you look at January 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.720 through October of twenty twenty five, and you compare it 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.000 to the same time period in twenty twenty four. In 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:25.480 twenty twenty five, approximately five nine hundred and twelve murders 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.040 were recorded in the US In that same time period 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.079 in twenty twenty four, seven three hundred and sixty nine 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.160 murders were recorded. In other words, there are about fourteen 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.400 hundred people one thy four hundred people alive who were 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:46.400 not murdered because of common sense law and order policies 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.920 because of not releasing murderers onto the street, because of 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.320 deporting murderers and violent gang members. And let's break the 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:59.080 numbers down. Chicago the murder rate dropped thirty percent. New 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:04.080 York City the murder rate dropped twenty percent. Birmingham, Alabama, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.640 it dropped forty nine percent. Albuquerque, New Mexico, had dropped 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:12.200 thirty two percent, Baltimore, Maryland it dropped thirty one percent, Atlanta, 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:17.960 Georgia twenty six percent, Oakland, California, thirty three percent, Washington, 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.760 d C. Where President Trump deployed the National Guard thirty 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:28.159 one percent. These are historic lows, and if these trends continue, 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:34.240 the US may record its lowest murder rate since nineteen sixty, 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:39.440 that is sixty six years ago. That is a stunning result. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:44.799 By the way, border crime, border crime, other violent crimes 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:49.000 also decreased in twenty five, including a twenty five percent 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:54.520 drop in motor vehicle theft, an eighteen percent drop in robberies, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:05:00.920 and an eight percent drop in aggravated assaults. Now these 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.720 data are being reported, and what is really quite interesting 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.600 is the media is doing everything they can to cover 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.960 it up. So Axios wrote the first story on this, 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:14.719 and they talk about the murder rate has fallen, but 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.039 they say, well, it's unclear that this has anything to 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:20.520 do with Donald Trump or DOJ or the FBI or 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.360 policies that Republicans have put in place deporting violent criminals 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:29.159 and murderers and gang members, which is truly, it is 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:34.600 a level of dishonesty that is incredible. And I want 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:40.480 to give you some of the raw backgrounds that explains 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.680 why the murder rate has dropped so profoundly. Here are 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.919 some raw numbers, and this was put out by FBI 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.800 Director Cash Betel of what has happened that would explain 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.880 why is it that we've seen a twenty percent drop 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:57.120 in murder rate in the last year. We've seen an 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.520 increase in violent crime arrests. What rate do you think 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.360 the increase violent crime arrest has been? 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.800 What has it been? I have no clue. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:05.480 One hundred percent? 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.240 Wow? All right? 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:13.400 How about this? Gangs and criminal enterprises disrupted? What rate 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.120 do you think that that increase has been. 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.920 I'm gonna guess it's got to be significant. 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.719 Two hundred and ten percent a total of one thousand, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:27.479 eight hundred gangs and criminal enterprises disrupted? All right, fetanyl 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.480 more than two thousand kilos of fetanyl sees. That's up 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.720 thirty one percent. That's enough to kill one hundred and 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:39.000 thirty million Americans. There've also been more than six thousand 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.760 child victims located. That's an increase of twenty two percent. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.320 There have been more than one thousand, seven hundred child 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:50.080 predators arrested. That's an increase of ten percent. There have 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.720 been more than three hundred human traffickers arrested. That's up 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:58.560 fifteen percent. There's a thirty five percent increase in espionage arrests. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:06.160 And four of the FBI's top ten most wanted fugitives 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.960 were captured. And to give you a sense of that, 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.600 in one year, do you have many how many of 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.160 the FBI's top ten lists were captured in the four 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:15.600 years of the Biden presidency. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.240 I'm gonna guess it's less than five. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:22.360 Four So in one year they captured as many on 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.760 the top ten list as Biden did in all four years. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:30.480 And the media want to do everything they can to say, no, no, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.600 this drop in the murder rate. It just happened magically. 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.400 It's probably due to global warming or something. It has 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:41.040 nothing to do with arresting murderers. It has nothing to 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.960 do with deporting murders. It certainly has nothing to do 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.520 with MS thirteen gang members being put in jail and deported, 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.040 despite the fact that the way you join MS thirteen 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:57.800 is by murdering someone. And this is real results. And 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.600 then you put on top of it, put on top 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:05.520 of it the drop in overdoses. And when we come back, 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.640 we're going to give you the drop in overdoses, which 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:11.400 is even more profound. Even more lives have been saved 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:12.120 in the past year. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.920 We also have some incredible data when it comes to overdoses. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.880 This country saving counts lives by securing the border but 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.440 also going after the cartels and doing everything we can 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.640 to stop the floid drugs in this country, and it's 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:27.520 working quickly. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.880 Well, you're right, although the one thing I'll disagree with 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.600 you on, as you said countless lives, We actually can 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.200 can count the lives that have been saved, and the 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.480 lives that have been saved are staggering. We just discussed 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.120 how the murder rate has dropped twenty percent in the 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.880 first year of the Trump administration to the lowest rate 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:51.160 since nineteen sixty The lowest rate in sixty six years. 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:56.200 That means roughly one thy four hundred Americans are alive 0:08:56.320 --> 0:09:00.600 today who would have been murdered if Joe Biden and 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.280 the Democrats soft on crime open border policies were still 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.439 in effect. Now, that's a lot ony four hundred people 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.720 still alive. Nobody knows who it is. It may be you, 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:11.480 it may be me, it may be our family are 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:12.960 loved ones. We don't know who it is that would 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.120 have been murdered, but there would have been more murders. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.880 As big as that is, that's not even close to 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.880 the biggest decrease in deaths because of President Trump and 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.600 because of common sense policies. The biggest decrease in deaths 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.680 comes from the drug overdose deaths numbers. And I want 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.319 to pause for a second and ask everyone listening to this. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.000 Have you seen this on the six o'clock news? Have 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.720 you read this of the New York Times? Have you 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.079 seen the corporate media covering this? They don't want to 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.559 cover this. Here are the stats. In twenty twenty five, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:52.160 drug overdose deaths in America dropped roughly twenty one percent. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:58.200 Now what does that mean? That means in twenty twenty four, 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.480 there were nine twenty one thousand, six hundred and ninety 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.120 four deaths from drug overdoses ninety one thousand, six hundred 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:10.520 ninety four same time period, and that's actually a year 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.280 long projected looking at the data from January to August, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.199 and this is from the CDC ninety one thousand, six 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.240 hundred ninety four and twenty twenty four. What do you 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.120 think they were in twenty twenty five. Well, the answer 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.160 is seventy two thousand, eight hundred and thirty six. In 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.240 other words, the deaths fell from ninety one thousand, six 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:34.040 hundred ninety four to seventy two thousand, eight hundred and 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:38.720 thirty six. That means they're about nineteen thousand people who 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:42.840 did not die because of drug overdoses. And what are 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.400 the policies that led to it? Well, Number one, securing 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.760 the border. We've seen a ninety nine percent decrease in 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:52.400 illegal crossings. Number Two, targeting the drug traffickers. All of 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:56.959 the images you've seen of the administration taking out Venezuelan 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.079 drug boats filled with drugs, those drugs are not arriving 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.640 in the United States at nearly the same rate. And 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.360 they're nineteen thousand Americans who are alive today. These are 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.920 sons and daughters, These are husbands and wives, brothers and 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.839 sisters that are alive that did not die. You combine 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.040 the decrease in deaths from drug overdoses with the decrease 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.959 in deaths from murders, and you're looking at more than 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:25.520 twenty thousand Americans that are alive today. And so you 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.800 may not think that government policies necessarily impact your life, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.120 but they're twenty thousand Americans, and none of us will 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.760 know for sure who those twenty thousand are that are 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:41.640 alive today because the administration is rightly focused on public safety, 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.280 rightly focused on locking up violent criminals, on putting murderers 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.920 in jail, on putting rapists in jail, and putting child 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:52.760 molesters in jail, and on deporting violent criminal illegal immigrants 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.679 and gang members. And America is much much safer as 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:57.160 a result. 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.720 You know what's interesting about this, Senator, and I just 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:04.079 talk about a comparing contrast. Donald Trump comes in and 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:11.000 we lower crime statistically nationwide, and it's in a level, 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.319 as you mentioned earlier, that we haven't seen in decades. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.040 You compare that to what Democrats were doing to lower crime. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:23.079 They were just lying about the crime stats. Washington, DC 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.360 is a prime example of this. Before the election, they 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.560 want to look like crime had gone down. They straight 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:32.160 up lied about the crime statistics. We've seen this happen 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.280 in other cities around the country where they got busted 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:39.440 lying or recategorizing certain crimes and putting them in different categories. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.959 They wouldn't be reported the same way to make it 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.760 artificially look like crime had gone down. And the difference 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.880 here is one party really fights crime and goes out 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.559 to the criminals and wins, and the other one says, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.080 when you do a crime, will make it look safer 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.400 by altering the numbers. That is a difference between the 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.599 Republican the Democratic Party on the issue of crime in 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:00.319 America today. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.520 That's exactly right. And and and you also have, uh, 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.079 you have the media deliberately lying. So for example, this 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.400 past week, uh that there was a story that was 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:16.239 breathlessly reported, which is that the Trump administration has arrested 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.160 a five year old. Ice is targeted a five year 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.120 old and there's an adorable picture of a little five 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.199 year old and and and the left went crazy with that. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.440 Twitter went crazy with that that there are multiple reports 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.960 it turns out that the five year old what happened 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.000 is his father was an illegal immigrant. ICE showed up 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.960 to arrest the illegal immigrant father, and the father abandoned 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.120 the kid. He ran off, and so the ICE agents 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.360 understandably stayed back with the five year old kid because 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.360 the father had just left him alone. Uh And and 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.960 you know, I guess the alternative, which which which the 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.079 media would want want ICE to do, is just to 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.120 let a five year old kid be alone on the 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.160 streets and freeze to death like like it is. The 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:03.760 level of of duplicity, the level of mendacity, the level 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.640 of just flat out lying is astonishing. And why is that? 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.840 It is because the Democrats and the media, although I 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.960 repeat myself, do not want you to know that the 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:21.360 people they're showing up and arresting are overwhelmingly violent criminals. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.000 They're not five year old kids. In this instance, the 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.480 five year old child was abandoned by his father. 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Promo 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.880 code verdict. All right, I want to get to another 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.320 big story center and it deals with Jack Smith. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:57.680 He was in front of Congress. 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.680 I would assume ninety audience does not know that he 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.960 had to testify before Congress this week, not because they're uninformed, 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.040 because the media refuses to cover this. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.760 They think this is old news and just. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.199 Hashing out something had happened a long time ago, so 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.600 no one should care. I think we should remind people 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:21.840 of why accountability is still so vitally important and what 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.720 Jack Smith was a part of. Can you just give 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.680 a quick synopsis to people so that people remember who 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.720 is Jack Smith, what was he doing to abuse power, 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.440 and just how corrupt was his quote investigation to Donald 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:35.880 Trump and. 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.480 Others, Jack Smith was the point of the spear on 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.160 the greatest abuse of power we have seen in modern times. 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.320 And to put it in context, what Jack Smith did 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.920 was orders of magnitude worse than what the Nixon administration 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.760 did during Watergate. During Watergate, you had a couple of 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:57.240 half rate burglars break into the to the headquarters of 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:02.240 the DNC, the Democrat National Committee. In this instance, jack Smith, 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.360 what he did was orders of magnitude worth. He went 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:09.960 directly after President Trump indicted him multiple times. He did 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.520 so for a very explicit reason, because he wanted to 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.920 prevent the American people from re electing him. It was 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:19.040 an effort directly to subvert democracy. It was the first 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:20.840 time in the history of the United States that a 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.600 president or former president has been indicted. Jack Smith did 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.159 it twice, and then he also teamed up with his 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:30.040 rogue Democrat local prosecutors to do it two more times. 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:34.680 He also subpoenaed the phone records of roughly twenty percent 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.960 of the Republicans in the Senate in a fishing expedition, 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:43.000 he targeted over four hundred Republicans. It was a political persecution. 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.359 If you're a fan of lame is, Jack Smith would 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:51.760 make Javert blush. He was out of control and he 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.200 continues to be brazen. And I will tell you his testimony. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.640 He testified for the House of Representatives. It was a disaster. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.359 Jim Jordan your friend of mine. He's been again on 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:04.240 the Verdict podcast. Before Jim Jordan shaired the hearing. He 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.800 opened the hearing by pointed out that the FBI when 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.879 it rated mar A Lago, that it searched Melania's closet 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.439 because apparently her clothing and underwear is a matter of 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.560 national security, according to Jack Smith and the Biden doj 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:23.000 and it searched Baron Trump's bedroom, because you know, going 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.639 after a teenager is really the best use for the 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.480 Department of Justice, and I guess it is if you're 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.760 willing to abuse your power. I want you to listen 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:36.280 to Jim Jordan talking about Jack Smith at the hearing. Here, 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:36.840 give a listen. 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:38.160 Jenal yields back. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.760 Mister Smith, is Cassidy Hutchinson a liar. She was their 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.919 star witness January sixth Committee, their star witness in one 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.280 of those staged and choreographed hearings they paid the former 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:53.399 president of ABC News to put together. She was in 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:58.000 fact the only witness at this special prime time hearing Tuesday, 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.600 June twenty eighth, twenty twenty two, eight o'clock in the evening, 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.800 and she told some stories. I mean, these were these 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.760 were some stories she talked about President lunsed across the 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.000 back seat, grabbed the steering wheel, tried to drive the 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:14.400 car to the Capitol. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.280 And I just want to know you think she was lying. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:18.240 Chairman Jordan. 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:23.960 My assessment of that particular issue is that with respect 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.960 to the testimony about someone lunge of the president lunging 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:33.199 towards the driver, my recollection of her testimony about that 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.760 is that it was secondhand. She said she'd heard that 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:36.400 from somebody. 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.359 You familiar with the name Tony Ornado. I'm sorry, you 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:43.159 familiar with the name Tony Ornado? Yes, White House Deputy 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.040 chief of Operations, Deputy chief of staff for operations. Right. 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.040 You remember what he said about it? 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:50.800 As I said here right now, I do not. 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.359 Yeah, he said it didn't happen. How about Bobby Ingle? 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.080 Are you familiar with that name? Yes, I am Secret 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.080 Service agent who was actually in the car that day. 0:20:59.200 --> 0:20:59.920 You know what he said? 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.239 He said it didn't happen. And they both said the 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.920 first time they ever heard this story was when miss 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.800 Hutchinson testified in the prime time hearing as their star 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.200 witness of the January sixth committee. 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:13.840 By the way, do you. 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.040 Ever confirm her testimony about this particular incident? 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:22.920 We conducted, as I said, before, our own independent investigation 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.120 of all aspects of the case that we thought was relevant. 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.359 We attorneys from my office. 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.080 Did you ever confirm it? That's a simple question. 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:33.760 We interviewed her, I should say, attorneys in my office. 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:37.600 But did you ever confirm the president leaping across the seat, 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.439 grabbing the steering wheel. This whole concoctions she brought up 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:42.480 in the January sixth hearing, do you ever confirm that. 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:47.919 We interviewed another firsthand witness who was in the car 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.720 who did not confirm that that happened. 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.880 But also your deposition to the committee last month, mister Smith, 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.119 you said this my recollection with miss Hutchinson was a 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.159 number of the things that she gave evidence on we're 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.840 second hand hearsay. Your remembers making that statement to us 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.040 last month in the deposition. 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.480 I did, and I was referring particularly to what we're 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:09.320 talking about now. 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.160 Yeah, And you also said miss Hutchinson, regarding this particular claim, 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.840 was a second or even third hand witness. We ask you, 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:16.960 if you were a defense attorney, how would you handle 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.119 cross examining her if she was on the witness stand? 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:20.840 And you said, if I were a defense attorney, miss 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.040 Hutchinson were a witness, the first thing I would do 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.800 was seek to preclude her testimony because it was here 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:26.840 say you remember saying all that. 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:28.600 Yes, that's correct, so that's correct. 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:28.920 Right? 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:30.439 Were you gonna put her on the witness stand if 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:31.280 you ever got to trial. 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.760 We had not made final determinations as to who we 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:36.600 were going to call as a witness. We had a 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.479 large were still considering her. We had a large choice 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:41.399 of witnesses in this. 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:45.320 Are you familiar what Washington Post reporters Carol Lenning and 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.320 Aaron Davis said in their book? They did his book 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:49.880