Speaker 1: Find Down podcast. Why didn't that go through my ears?
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it either. Was this supposed to no
Speaker 1: us to? Can I just talk about the stash really fast.
Speaker 1: That's happening on Easton Stace November no shave November. But
Speaker 1: that's not but he's not shaving. There's a there. I
Speaker 1: shaved part of my job Instagram that so people can
Speaker 1: see it because this is a very live day today.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a move I can do with this
Speaker 1: mustache that I'm not technically allowed to do while on
Speaker 1: the clock. But I'm gonna do right move. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: is that like an sexual I cannot un see that
Speaker 1: that's a move? Right? The problem is now that can't
Speaker 1: be onsane? I can't wow. I speaking of Easton, he
Speaker 1: just celebrated birthday. Happy birthday, Easton, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: When you score be a queen. How old are you now?
Speaker 1: I'm thirty two. Well, we need to talk about it
Speaker 1: real fast before we get to the p C, A
Speaker 1: S and everything. Last night, so Michael put on the
Speaker 1: calendar Eastern's birthday on the sex. I'm a great friend.
Speaker 1: But then I don't know what happened that day was
Speaker 1: really busy, and did you text him the sex? Okay,
Speaker 1: well I just texted I sent him a great and emoji.
Speaker 1: You sent him an emoji No, I don't know, and
Speaker 1: emoji like yourself, Like no, no, no, the animal. It
Speaker 1: was a very cute mouse seeing me happy birthday. Trying
Speaker 1: to think what happened. Oh, that was the day after
Speaker 1: our Nashville wind out, so we were out of commission.
Speaker 1: The next days or so things weren't working well. But um,
Speaker 1: but then, so I'm so sorry I forgotten then. But
Speaker 1: then I looked on Instagram and it really looked like
Speaker 1: you were having Everyone was saying happy birthday that day.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, oh crap, it's Easton's birthday today.
Speaker 1: So I'm in a group text happy birthday, um, and
Speaker 1: You're just like you didn't even correct me. You're just
Speaker 1: like thank you. And then Michael's like it was the
Speaker 1: other day. And then I felt mortified. But then here
Speaker 1: comes the conversation, Okay, what did we get Easton? Because
Speaker 1: we got Mark something for his birthday. It's in the works.
Speaker 1: I feel like people say that when they when they
Speaker 1: actually forget that you did my gifts take thought in
Speaker 1: time and investment, I'm not just gonna get east In
Speaker 1: something you can find anywhere. It's going to be something great.
Speaker 1: But like, I just what is it? You know? Because
Speaker 1: it's a friend thing. So it's it's that conversation about
Speaker 1: birthdays where if you have if you get someone a birthday,
Speaker 1: you're present, You're gonna have to get it for the
Speaker 1: other friend because what are you getting at if you
Speaker 1: get him when you have to get me one, You're
Speaker 1: getting me one. There's no questions. I don't understand where
Speaker 1: this is going. What is your question? Yeah, my question
Speaker 1: is what is the protocol protocol for that for giving gifts,
Speaker 1: especially like in the workplace too, because we have a
Speaker 1: lot of friends too, So do we give friends to
Speaker 1: every Do we give birthday presents to everyone that we know? No?
Speaker 1: But we have marks, so now we know I want
Speaker 1: to give Easton a present. But I'm just saying like,
Speaker 1: but I also feel like now like you have to
Speaker 1: give Easton a present because then it's like I would
Speaker 1: be upset if if I was Tory. Let's say, and
Speaker 1: we gave Amy a present but didn't give Tory a present.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing with this. If you flashback to
Speaker 1: a young Easton, who is just the biggest Janna Cramer
Speaker 1: fan in the world. And you said, how you check
Speaker 1: this out? Would you want to hang out with Janna
Speaker 1: at least once a week? Do you want to stay
Speaker 1: the night in her home? Text? Or whenever you choose
Speaker 1: about anything? Respond, I would say, I give up every
Speaker 1: single birthday, Christmas care for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: And that's the reality I thankfully live right now. So
Speaker 1: you guys are off the hook, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I have like a I do have. That's Janet.
Speaker 1: But but you and I like the same things. We
Speaker 1: have a lot of similar That was so sweet. But
Speaker 1: I do I have She's gonna give you Like you know,
Speaker 1: I have a Visa Visa gift card in my bag.
Speaker 1: It's mostly full. She trying to give it to somebody else. Recently,
Speaker 1: I was like, no, who is that? Are you have
Speaker 1: no wine down door? Are you a regifter? Oh? And
Speaker 1: I am not saying I I used to be, But
Speaker 1: now what I do is i'd rather just like you know,
Speaker 1: you didn't end up, I don't think. But what I
Speaker 1: like to do is come in the bathroom. Okay, here,
Speaker 1: what do you want? Oh? Yeah, That's what I do
Speaker 1: because I think people if we were to, if we
Speaker 1: were to regift a man create, they're going to not
Speaker 1: it's for free. So now I feel like we can't
Speaker 1: but like you know what I mean, like we can't.
Speaker 1: I feel like people like you now we can't regift
Speaker 1: but not. It's like Mike's mom gave you something, you know, right,
Speaker 1: But if it's something, Oh, you know what I did
Speaker 1: a re gift last year? Oh no, I can't say it.
Speaker 1: Don't don't say it. The person listens to the podcast
Speaker 1: and they're going to know even better. Why don't you
Speaker 1: say who it was from? You don't have to say
Speaker 1: who you ended up giving it to. But who gave
Speaker 1: you a gift that you gave me? It's something I
Speaker 1: gave her Amy sugar Man, are we gifted it? Use
Speaker 1: your brain? What? Oh I'm dying anyways, I can't, Okay,
Speaker 1: So moving on, you can either have the visa gift
Speaker 1: card from that's probably expired. They expired, I don't think
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna find it in my purse. I have
Speaker 1: a lot of things to me first, Like I have nerds,
Speaker 1: my xan X, my flip off, my nerds, it sounds
Speaker 1: like a party. I'll take I've got one left. Not well,
Speaker 1: happy birthday and I'm glad that I was the better
Speaker 1: friend and actually wish you happy birthday on your birthday.
Speaker 1: You guys are all very good friends to me and
Speaker 1: I'm treasure our friendship. Well, I will say, just to
Speaker 1: wrap it up with Easton, you sent a text message
Speaker 1: us to night, which I did not respond to. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry again, I know, but he said, were you guys
Speaker 1: at the sing goes? I love you guys, and being
Speaker 1: a part of Wine Doown has been an absolute dream
Speaker 1: come true. You guys win at Easton's Choice Award, and
Speaker 1: that's after we lost the People's Choice Award, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to say thank you to
Speaker 1: everyone who voted. You didn't vote enough? Ye kidding, No,
Speaker 1: I'm We're so happy for Becca Antonia. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just so fun to be there last night. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's talk. I want to hear. It was
Speaker 1: amazing and even sorry, We've been to plenty of award
Speaker 1: shows and stuff, but this was the Country Awards. It's
Speaker 1: been Country awardhards or music award shows. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like Keith A bit nice to see
Speaker 1: Keith easy Heath like enough like you always bogged me down, Garth,
Speaker 1: I'll see you later, Okay, we'll have a drink. But
Speaker 1: it's like we've met these people before. We've but it's
Speaker 1: there's times when I'm like, hey, we need to how
Speaker 1: do I say this? Like it's still exciting, but when
Speaker 1: you haven't seen like I've never seen Jennifer Andison up close,
Speaker 1: like I was dying. Yeah, And so the fact that
Speaker 1: we got to be in this element that we're not
Speaker 1: typically in and see people that we don't normally see,
Speaker 1: Like Robert down Jr. Opened the show and I'm like,
Speaker 1: like Easton and I are like shooting hard eyes across
Speaker 1: the room to each other, like, oh my gosh, it's
Speaker 1: iron Man. Michael he straight up like swatted me when
Speaker 1: he's like, oh no, there's no way like iron Man,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like but then outcomes freaking Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 1: And Michael's face and he's I've never ever ever at
Speaker 1: an award show seen my husband take out his phone.
Speaker 1: I'm never ever, I have not one. Never did you
Speaker 1: get to like a selfie like I was this guy?
Speaker 1: I want you guys could see that was like holding
Speaker 1: the phone down kind of by your chest, so a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't see I was video and him
Speaker 1: a video. Kevin Hart, Uh, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Fallon. I
Speaker 1: stood up for Jimmy. I think I was the first
Speaker 1: one our side of the room. When they go Jimmy,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Jimmy, Yeah, I mean he just
Speaker 1: like it was I've never seen this kind of Mike before.
Speaker 1: It was but it was so cute to see because
Speaker 1: the excited Yeah, because again I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: the first few country shows, of course, like we're so
Speaker 1: excited to be these people and it's still you know,
Speaker 1: dreams come true, but at the same time, it's now
Speaker 1: we're friends. But these the people that we saw us night, like,
Speaker 1: they don't know us from Adam Wow, you know, so
Speaker 1: to be able to see these people were up close.
Speaker 1: So it was really fun to see Mike get excited
Speaker 1: about that. And he got to interview Terry Crews on
Speaker 1: the carpet because we did some stuff for Extra last
Speaker 1: night as well. Yeah, we got to interview some people
Speaker 1: and so you know, Mike interview Terry and it was
Speaker 1: just it was so cool. I just I love seeing
Speaker 1: you happy, Mike. It's probably one of my favorite things
Speaker 1: in the world. And I know, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just I just love it. I love to see you
Speaker 1: happy and get excited and take your phone. Now. I
Speaker 1: was just like, like, I don't take pictures, I don't
Speaker 1: think videos. I don't but yeah, and I kind of
Speaker 1: try to act like I've been there before. I kind
Speaker 1: of stay calm, cool and collected. But last night I
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't care. We're interviewing amazing people together.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is awesome. Well, I had to
Speaker 1: break up this love moment, and I'm really truly happy
Speaker 1: that you were happy for him. But let's talk about
Speaker 1: like like you wearing like what this is like what
Speaker 1: I imagine when Janna posted that instagram of her look,
Speaker 1: It's like, in my head it was like when your
Speaker 1: friends say when your friends asked, like what are you
Speaker 1: wearing and you say like, oh, just like something casual,
Speaker 1: and Janna just whips out with the cape and the
Speaker 1: hair and the pony and the sacks. I was just like, holy,
Speaker 1: she showed up, showed up, and and you would but
Speaker 1: I was like, there was you and Gwen, you and
Speaker 1: Gwen both had the capes and the bows and the bows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was honestly a little shocked from the I mean,
Speaker 1: Sonia Christians in my stylist is incredible. I was very
Speaker 1: shocked though, by the reaction of the dress. What was
Speaker 1: the reaction, Well, everyone loved it. Not not that I
Speaker 1: was shocked by that, but I just, you know, just
Speaker 1: it felt nice to read the comments about like, I
Speaker 1: bet you my life. You make everything was just like
Speaker 1: she does make everything look so good. But this was
Speaker 1: like this was it like you were made for that
Speaker 1: and that was made for you, and I I really
Speaker 1: was like, oh is that my second wedding dress? The design.
Speaker 1: But Michael, though, I just want to set you guys.
Speaker 1: You guys looked so good together and that's the first
Speaker 1: time we've been styled together as a couple. But Michael
Speaker 1: for a sweater underneath the suit, Like, let me just say,
Speaker 1: he looked in I just thought you looked so incredible
Speaker 1: last night. You guys looked like a Okay, I'm sitting
Speaker 1: in the middle and this is getting really weird, and
Speaker 1: I feel like there's like about well they're like about
Speaker 1: how sex or something. They're like staring at each other like,
Speaker 1: oh he looked so good. No, you just really looked. No,
Speaker 1: but you could tell. You guys were like and you
Speaker 1: saw us on the carpet. I loved your any of
Speaker 1: us moment. I was just like, well, I'll turn it on.
Speaker 1: You know, I love any moment. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder, like who they're gonna show, and literally all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, like there you were. I was like, screamed,
Speaker 1: I'm like pause, Tori Rewind. I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: It was for a minute and they got Mike fixing
Speaker 1: your train. And then I even if anyone would watch that,
Speaker 1: I said, I go, what a good husband, A good guy.
Speaker 1: I love my husband. And you guys kissed. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was sweet. It was great to see um. Also, I
Speaker 1: have another question Kardashians. O God, let me just say
Speaker 1: this before we get into Jam's reaction. I'm not a
Speaker 1: big Kardashian person. I don't really follow. I knew oh
Speaker 1: you don't say surprised, But it's just one of those things.
Speaker 1: Seeing those kind of people in person for the time
Speaker 1: is kind of interesting. It's very interesting because you're like
Speaker 1: they're right there, and you're right there, you're real right,
Speaker 1: You're everywhere, but it was he just even as a
Speaker 1: guy who's just not interested, it was just very interesting
Speaker 1: and just to see the circus around them. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: you like to tell them my reaction. I wish I
Speaker 1: was pretty better coming from me. I wish I was
Speaker 1: up on like the little LEDs here because she's standing
Speaker 1: for Extra and she was like, oh my god Kardashians
Speaker 1: and she was looking down there and she was like Chlue,
Speaker 1: and I just made eye contact. I think when you
Speaker 1: cry right now, and Courtney looked at me too, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Um And then she
Speaker 1: starts talking to her publicists like hey, will they take pictures?
Speaker 1: And the publicists like no, well no, So this is
Speaker 1: this because also side note for people, you love your
Speaker 1: car like you don't care about a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't and you we love them, I love them, I
Speaker 1: respect them as businesswoman. Chris Jenner is MYSA Animals. I'm
Speaker 1: obsessed with her and I really want to be friends
Speaker 1: with Chloe. But when I saw Chloe and it was
Speaker 1: that I've never seen Chloe person. I've seen him before
Speaker 1: in person from one time at a party, and this
Speaker 1: was like before she was like really really famous, maybe
Speaker 1: like twelve thirteen years ago at a club. But when
Speaker 1: I saw Chloe and I locked eyes with her, I've
Speaker 1: never ever teared up. Yes, I got misty. It was
Speaker 1: very strange. I get it. Do you okay? Good? Maybe
Speaker 1: one person I didn't understand, so many people listening would
Speaker 1: probably do the same. Do you think that she thought
Speaker 1: you were pretty? Like? Do you think she looked at
Speaker 1: you and was like, oh my god, like I love
Speaker 1: her like hair or like her dress? I think so. No.
Speaker 1: I think she just I think she felt my like heart.
Speaker 1: You guys had a soul moment. I think we had
Speaker 1: a soul moment. I really do. And I think she
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to me to no. But it was
Speaker 1: so weird because everyone's like, like when people meet me
Speaker 1: and they cry, I'm like, why are you crying? Don't cry?
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, no, no no no. Do you
Speaker 1: know what people that say, like I met I would
Speaker 1: I would cry if I met Clendy on one thousand, million,
Speaker 1: bazillion percent, I would be a puddle of mud. But
Speaker 1: I never thought I would cry meeting anyone else. But
Speaker 1: then I locked eyes with Chloe and I got misty,
Speaker 1: And but then I locked eyes with Courtney there, I
Speaker 1: am here, I am Oh it got cold. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's why her and I go together, because
Speaker 1: we're just kind of cold. I mean I think so.
Speaker 1: I think that's why I dig her. I mean I
Speaker 1: digg her too, But I don't think she'd want to.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's I got a very I've given
Speaker 1: that look before people always come up to me in
Speaker 1: the room, but I just got like a very like
Speaker 1: she didn't like I, like she didn't want to be
Speaker 1: there kind of vibe and I and I got the
Speaker 1: she's just over it and Catherine and she's like, I
Speaker 1: think she just doesn't wanting on the show. I really
Speaker 1: think she is. I think she's that one who's like
Speaker 1: what do I? What am I? And she's kind of
Speaker 1: been like that from the beginning, like she just wants
Speaker 1: to be with her kids and doesn't really care. It's
Speaker 1: like Kim and Chloe are hustling. Yeah, I mean not
Speaker 1: to give you Oh yeah, So, I mean I don't
Speaker 1: want to spend too much longer because I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't love their Kardashians, but I do
Speaker 1: love them. And it was so then I asked my
Speaker 1: publicist Nicole. I was like, Hey, Nicole, do you think
Speaker 1: like we could take a photo together? Or if I
Speaker 1: could just say hi to them? Like I would just
Speaker 1: gonna die. And so she went over there talk to
Speaker 1: the publicist and they said that they don't do photos.
Speaker 1: So my heart was a little broken. But maybe one
Speaker 1: day I'll get lucky enough to you will say, how
Speaker 1: to Chloe or some best I just want. I'd love
Speaker 1: to just talk to her. Who was your best dressed?
Speaker 1: My best dressed? Oh, I will say this and not
Speaker 1: talk to Pink. I got to interview paink someone. She
Speaker 1: was my grand favorite person that I had really because
Speaker 1: she's just really real and not authentic, yeah, just really
Speaker 1: really very authentic. And I thinked her for helping because
Speaker 1: I remember when she went through that stuff with her
Speaker 1: husband and they even they either divorce or separated, but
Speaker 1: I just remember and then they got back together, and
Speaker 1: I was always always looked up to their relationship, even
Speaker 1: before of all of our stuff, I just always looked
Speaker 1: up to that. I was like, Wow, that takes guts
Speaker 1: and that takes strength, and that takes a lot of
Speaker 1: courage to to like go through that route publicly. And
Speaker 1: I've just always looked up to her, and I guess
Speaker 1: about basically thank her last night that, Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a cool moment. And it's her. I mean, those are
Speaker 1: two people we would love to have on the shows.
Speaker 1: And Pink and but you are also talking about your
Speaker 1: experience as Terry, which I thought was interesting, which I
Speaker 1: mean both first of all, in Pink, you know, she
Speaker 1: was even in a movie about sex addiction called Thanks
Speaker 1: for Sharing with Mark Ruffalo and Josh gadd and um um,
Speaker 1: Tim Robbins and and Pink was in it. And it's
Speaker 1: a really good movie about sex addiction and um, but
Speaker 1: it's kind of stayed under the radar even with the
Speaker 1: all star cast like that. But but yeah, Terry Crews,
Speaker 1: I read this thing. It was probably in the early
Speaker 1: days of when Jane and I were together. I was
Speaker 1: before you even knew about the addictions. This was before
Speaker 1: I even knew about that. And I remember thinking to
Speaker 1: myself because he basically came out and said that he
Speaker 1: stopped watching porn, and uh, he took that out of
Speaker 1: out of his his life and his relationship because he
Speaker 1: just felt spiritually from his soul that it took away
Speaker 1: from his connection with his wife. And I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I remember even thinking then I was like, man,
Speaker 1: maybe I should stop, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: maybe I should stop doing that too or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I mean that was before I knew about any kind
Speaker 1: of addiction and stuff like that. But so him and
Speaker 1: his wife too, I want to have on the show
Speaker 1: because I want to talk about that because I was
Speaker 1: years ago that would be a dream guest for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. And they they they're so on the same
Speaker 1: page when we get to interview them, and they're just
Speaker 1: they are a team for sure. Even just a few
Speaker 1: minutes that we got to interview them, that's so cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think all in all, it was great. And
Speaker 1: then Jennifer Aniston is just like she's so iconic class
Speaker 1: class from a man, was she like stunning or like
Speaker 1: she's just so iconic, iconic but like classic, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean didn't like before they brought her up. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, they're showing all these clips of her dramatic,
Speaker 1: funny and just Rachel and I'm just like, like she
Speaker 1: is and she just does it all. And the fact
Speaker 1: that we're watching the morning show on Apples she started,
Speaker 1: So I want so anyone. There were some reviews that
Speaker 1: said the morning show wasn't good. We did you know
Speaker 1: you're on Daily Mail's Best Dress both of you really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're on their Snapchat today. YouTube over fastly like it
Speaker 1: was a picture they did, um, so every day on
Speaker 1: stopchat they do, like you know, Daily Mail And it
Speaker 1: was like these these people did not get it and
Speaker 1: it was a bunch of people. And then the next
Speaker 1: line was like these are the people who totally got it.
Speaker 1: And it was a picture of you two. I know
Speaker 1: it was so excited. That's awesome. UM. But yeah, all
Speaker 1: in all, great awards. Grats to back Antonia for winning
Speaker 1: UM and the best line I will leave you guys
Speaker 1: with as Michael last night said, we won't stop and
Speaker 1: we can't stop. He's like, don't worry, guys, We're not
Speaker 1: going to stop. And I'm like, why would we stop
Speaker 1: for that? Our friend Julie keep sending his gifts of
Speaker 1: like being like, don't worry, We're not going to stop stop,
Speaker 1: dropping roll not you know, it's it's it's just one
Speaker 1: of those things if if you put anyone in my
Speaker 1: shoes where Janet's Instagram story and then just cuts to
Speaker 1: you first, it's like you have to have like little
Speaker 1: one liners. I mean, like in my notes section, I
Speaker 1: need like one liners. When Jana randomly puts my face
Speaker 1: on her phone, what do I say? Or what do
Speaker 1: I do with my hands? So I just I don't know,
Speaker 1: just sometimes stuff comes out, but I don't think about
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Speaker 1: doing good? You've got Janna, Mike and Sarah here, in
Speaker 1: the Wine Down Studio. We're so excited to have you. UM.
Speaker 1: You're the number one New York Times bestselling author. UM.
Speaker 1: Right now, you have a book out called super Attractor
Speaker 1: Methods for Manifesting a Life Beyond your Wildest Dreams is
Speaker 1: now available. How is How's the whole book tour going awesome?
Speaker 1: Way better than I could have expected? Super attracting along
Speaker 1: the way? Everything is going well, that's awesome. And in
Speaker 1: your book you teach the readers to do less and
Speaker 1: attract more, relax and trust that what they desire is
Speaker 1: on the way, and feel good regardless of external circumstances.
Speaker 1: I guess my first question would be when you say
Speaker 1: do less and attract more, how do how do you?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like I'm like, Okay, you gotta keep
Speaker 1: doing things and doing things, because if you you don't,
Speaker 1: then how are you actually attracting things. One of the
Speaker 1: things I teach in the book is that all that
Speaker 1: doing and doing actually is getting in our way of attracting.
Speaker 1: So when we're pushing and controlling and have the belief
Speaker 1: system that if I don't do it, it won't happen,
Speaker 1: we are blocking our power to hear inspiration we're blocking
Speaker 1: the support of other people because their energy is so frantic,
Speaker 1: and from a spiritual perspective, we are blocking the support
Speaker 1: of the universe. So what I teach in the book
Speaker 1: is a method called the spiritually aligned Action method, and
Speaker 1: this is a method that it's all about taking action
Speaker 1: from a place of service, love, faith, and patience, genuine patience.
Speaker 1: So when we do this, it's not that we're not
Speaker 1: taking action, because yes, of course we have to take
Speaker 1: an action to create something, but is that we're doing
Speaker 1: it from a place that's grounded, spiritually connected. And then
Speaker 1: the biggest part of it is being patient so that
Speaker 1: we are not getting in the way of the actual
Speaker 1: manifestation of what we want. So when we're in that
Speaker 1: pushy energy, we're really in the way because it turns
Speaker 1: people off. It's it's energetically keeping us from hearing the
Speaker 1: next right action and the intuition that's going to lead
Speaker 1: us forward. So we have to be in a practice
Speaker 1: of taking action from a place of spiritual connection so
Speaker 1: that we can do less and attract more. I like
Speaker 1: what you're saying there, Garby, because I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of times, if you know, we've interviewed people in
Speaker 1: the past or talk to people that kind of promote,
Speaker 1: you know, essentially positive thinking. It's just that there's like
Speaker 1: I'll just think positively and things will happen. But you
Speaker 1: have an action in place, So it's not just sitting
Speaker 1: back and not doing anything. It's having healthy habits to
Speaker 1: help take control of you know, you spiritually and mentally,
Speaker 1: to you know, instead of trying to just you know,
Speaker 1: physically do certain things. So I definitely appreciate what you're
Speaker 1: preaching there with that, and then you know, um, when
Speaker 1: things get that hard, like when everyone goes through life
Speaker 1: where just situations get hard, do you kind of double
Speaker 1: down on your meditation or your spiritual practice or thinking
Speaker 1: when you're just in a tough spot, or do you
Speaker 1: still just go through the same routine. I would double
Speaker 1: down when when when when life gets tough, I double
Speaker 1: down on my spiritual practice. And when life gets good,
Speaker 1: I doubled down on my spiritual practice. And uh I
Speaker 1: do I do that when life gets good, because when
Speaker 1: life gets good, we want to typically fall off and say,
Speaker 1: oh I got it, I got this from here right,
Speaker 1: and then that's when we go backwards. So sametimes, we
Speaker 1: want to do it most I like that you said
Speaker 1: you do it when you're when things are going good,
Speaker 1: because I I totally forget to keep kind of doing
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm only like, you know, when things
Speaker 1: are bad, it's like you're asking for help and help
Speaker 1: and help, and then finally when things are good, it's like, no,
Speaker 1: you need to keep that going, because I mean, is
Speaker 1: it really like our own response? Is it own responsibility
Speaker 1: to be happy? Right? It's our responsibility to choose how
Speaker 1: we want to perceive our life. In the book, I
Speaker 1: say the secret to feeling good is to decide to
Speaker 1: stop feeling bad. I think that that is the exact
Speaker 1: answer I would give anyone, But I think that that
Speaker 1: could also sound kind of offensive to some people that
Speaker 1: might be really suffering, someone who might have a mental illness,
Speaker 1: or someone who might have a major debt or a
Speaker 1: physical condition. But I can speach that very authentically, the
Speaker 1: choice to stop feeling bad. I uh, six months ago,
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with postpartum anxiety, depression, and insomnia, and at
Speaker 1: my lowest moment, I actually had to decide to stop
Speaker 1: feeling bad. But that didn't mean that I was going
Speaker 1: to feel better overnight, that things are just going to
Speaker 1: go away. But it meant that I made a decision
Speaker 1: to be open to the next right action, that I've
Speaker 1: made a decision to be open to guidance that may
Speaker 1: have been something that I wouldn't typically have been led to.
Speaker 1: It made a decision to do whatever it took to
Speaker 1: feel better. So wherever we are in our level of
Speaker 1: happiness and awareness of feeling good, we can always decide
Speaker 1: to stop feeling bad. And there's a lot of methods
Speaker 1: in the book to do that. And so meditation is
Speaker 1: a big part of your practice with that. What kind
Speaker 1: of advice do you have for people who you know?
Speaker 1: Because I know me myself, I've heard a lot of meditation.
Speaker 1: I want to make it more of a routine for myself,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I just can't turn my my
Speaker 1: brain off. I have a d D and I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of everywhere, and so sometimes i feel like I'm
Speaker 1: not doing it right. Okay, So what are what's some
Speaker 1: advice for myself? Over people feeling like you're all over
Speaker 1: the place? A great practice would be a mantra based
Speaker 1: meditation because what's happening for you is your thoughts are
Speaker 1: all over the place. So your thoughts, your mind needs
Speaker 1: a place to anchor, and you can do that with
Speaker 1: a mantra and so mantra as I'm a Cundalini yoga
Speaker 1: meditation teacher, and so I could give you a mantra
Speaker 1: called Satnam Dotnam means truth is my name, and you
Speaker 1: could just repeat that mantra in your head, and then
Speaker 1: when your thoughts begin to detour to whatever you did
Speaker 1: for lunch yesterday, or what you have to do for
Speaker 1: your bills or anything like that, you can simply come
Speaker 1: back to your mantra. And then you're in a detour again.
Speaker 1: But then you can always come back to your mantra.
Speaker 1: And so having that single pointed focus will be very
Speaker 1: effective for someone who's scatter brains like that. But then
Speaker 1: how about because I mean, same same Mike. Even when
Speaker 1: I'm in therapy and you know we have she starts
Speaker 1: with like a guide of meditation every time, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell her, I said, you know, sometimes I'm questioning the meditation,
Speaker 1: or I'm somewhere else, or I'm like, man, I really
Speaker 1: wish I was home right now with the kids are
Speaker 1: and mine wanders. And then when I try to meditate
Speaker 1: at home, it's I'm grabbing my phone or be like
Speaker 1: you're grabbing your your little what's that little thing? You
Speaker 1: play the video games? So it's we we have the time,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we're choosing to pick up other things. So
Speaker 1: it's how do we kind of train our mind to
Speaker 1: say okay instead of picking up that to turn off, yeah,
Speaker 1: to turn off those things, Like how do we put
Speaker 1: those those things away that we usually is what we
Speaker 1: calm down with. Yeah, I think that you have to
Speaker 1: realize that the more you practice meditating, the better you
Speaker 1: experience it, the more of a of a serenity you'll
Speaker 1: begin to experience in your life. I do a transcendental meditation.
Speaker 1: So I practiced twenty minutes twice a day, and the
Speaker 1: more I've practiced, the better I feel in the moment
Speaker 1: of the meditation, so so much so that I look
Speaker 1: forward to it. And so I think it's about like
Speaker 1: anything like when you start to go to the gym
Speaker 1: and you start to notice the physical benefits and you
Speaker 1: start to actually, it's real good when you're exercising, you
Speaker 1: want more or of it, right, So it's almost like
Speaker 1: you have to just get over that initial hurdle of
Speaker 1: the resistance to the practice and then put it into
Speaker 1: practice in order to get to a place where you
Speaker 1: really long for it. Love that. It's a really good
Speaker 1: point because in the beginning of running it sucks, but
Speaker 1: when you're running thirty minutes, you're like, oh wow, like
Speaker 1: this isn't as bad anymore. Well, that's funny because that
Speaker 1: was actually going to be a question because like, I'm
Speaker 1: a runner, so a lot of times I don't meditate,
Speaker 1: but I feel like sometimes when I'm running, that's my time.
Speaker 1: But are you You don't really think that, you know,
Speaker 1: in order to actually meditate, we need to be turned off,
Speaker 1: not doing anything, not working out, Like that's not meditating.
Speaker 1: I guess it is my question, not meditating, but it
Speaker 1: is the way that you are getting spiritually connected because
Speaker 1: when you're running, you're releasing resistance. And so whenever we've
Speaker 1: release resistance, energey like energetically, it's got a lot of
Speaker 1: energy blocking us. Thoughts can be released while you're running
Speaker 1: because you're just thinking about something so physical that you're
Speaker 1: mind releases that you let go of that resistance. And
Speaker 1: when you release that resistance, the fear thoughts, the dramas,
Speaker 1: the stories, the negative energy, that's when you get closer
Speaker 1: to your spiritual inspiration to the voice of inspiration, and
Speaker 1: so I bet you get very creative ideas when you're
Speaker 1: running or inspired inspired thoughts, and that's that's you know,
Speaker 1: in spirit, inspiration comes when we release resistance. So while
Speaker 1: it's not a meditative experience, it is another way of
Speaker 1: getting closer to that voice of inspiration. What's been the
Speaker 1: biggest type of therapy that's help you. M d R
Speaker 1: therapy has been the greatest therapy that's helped me, and
Speaker 1: it's high movement to sensitization and reproces. Michael and I
Speaker 1: both do e m d R. We love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's they saved my life. It's the best thing I've
Speaker 1: ever done. I will say though it's Um. I did
Speaker 1: have a session last week, was my MDR therapist, and
Speaker 1: she keeps she keeps telling me that because I started
Speaker 1: crying and I said, I feel like I'm doing it wrong. Um,
Speaker 1: She's like, there's no wrong method to it. She goes,
Speaker 1: she goes, I know, and that's what she said. She goes,
Speaker 1: but she goes, there is something that's blocking you from
Speaker 1: going there. And even when she said that, I started bawling.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I don't know what it is like,
Speaker 1: and that's that's where I'm here's the good news. Okay.
Speaker 1: So the fact that you're getting to a place where
Speaker 1: you're recognizing there's a block is a big move. There's
Speaker 1: a big step. You don't have to figure out what
Speaker 1: that block is. You can actually do E M d R.
Speaker 1: Just on the block, on the feeling of being blocked.
Speaker 1: Keep working on whatever it's up for you in the
Speaker 1: moment in that session, and each thing, each emotion that's
Speaker 1: up for you is like an aspect of this greater block.
Speaker 1: So as you kick out each aspect like today I'm
Speaker 1: feeling frustrated, or yesterday I lost it on the waitress
Speaker 1: because she didn't come in time, those moments are triggers
Speaker 1: that are reactivity ways that you're reacting to the block,
Speaker 1: to the event, to the experience that you're not wanting
Speaker 1: to witness. And so as you kick out those different
Speaker 1: aspects through each e M d R session, it's like
Speaker 1: kicking out the legs of a table. Eventually the table
Speaker 1: will collapse and what you need to hear will be revealed.
Speaker 1: So I don't want you to worry about what it
Speaker 1: is that's blocking you. Just keep working on the aspects
Speaker 1: that are showing up. Okay, Gabby, have you always been
Speaker 1: a very spiritually connected and emotionally connected human being or
Speaker 1: is there something in your life that happened that kind
Speaker 1: of turns you into this direction. Both. I've always been
Speaker 1: on a spiritual path. My my mother brought me up
Speaker 1: visiting ashrams and taught me to meditate as a child.
Speaker 1: But I also turned my back on it many times
Speaker 1: in my twenties. I really turned my back on it
Speaker 1: my early twenties, Um, because I thought that I would
Speaker 1: be able to find my own way and gave up
Speaker 1: on it and was led down a lot of addictive
Speaker 1: patterns and paths. And when I was twenty five, I
Speaker 1: got over and in my sober recovery, I reclaimed my
Speaker 1: spiritual faith and then continued to deepen my practice. Totally
Speaker 1: makes sense that programs are all about spiritual spirituality and
Speaker 1: your connection with the higher power. So I totally get that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I mean, where can our listeners find you? Um?
Speaker 1: And um, obviously the book is out right now, super attractor.
Speaker 1: What else? Is there one thing that you want them
Speaker 1: to really take away from the book. Well, this book,
Speaker 1: while the subtitle is Methods for manifesting a life beyond
Speaker 1: your wildest dreams. And that's true, it's a dawnest subtitle.
Speaker 1: But the book isn't about how to get things. It's
Speaker 1: a book on how to feel good. So when we
Speaker 1: feel good, we become super attractors. That's when we start
Speaker 1: to be a match for what we want. So if
Speaker 1: you're ready to feel good and then therefore attract what
Speaker 1: you desire into your life, and this is your book,
Speaker 1: go grab it. That's awesome, Gabby, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Really appreciate your in site and I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: read your book now. I'm so glad. All right, thanks Gavy.
Speaker 1: By guys, she's cool. Yeah, that's awesome. I love what
Speaker 1: she said there at the end, where it's it's not
Speaker 1: about getting things, it's almost about just changing your your
Speaker 1: mindset of having more gratitude for what you do have.
Speaker 1: And so maybe if you're not yearning for other things,
Speaker 1: you'll be happier because of what's currently around you. So
Speaker 1: that's a that was a good point that she made
Speaker 1: at the end there. I really would love to start
Speaker 1: meditating more, but I because if I have tried so
Speaker 1: many times. But even if it's just mean even my
Speaker 1: watch will say take a deep take, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: ignore gutting at a time for that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like got no time? I mean I could
Speaker 1: do I just like she said twenty minutes. I've tried,
Speaker 1: even when I'm in yoga, I really try to turn
Speaker 1: my brain off, and like I can, but it's so
Speaker 1: hard for me to like really truly disconnect and turn
Speaker 1: my brain off. What if there's something I mean, with Mike,
Speaker 1: would you okay, so we set our alarm for six,
Speaker 1: is there something where in the middle of the day
Speaker 1: or in the morning or at night, before we grab
Speaker 1: our phones, before you grab your little PlayStation thing imaging
Speaker 1: or whatever that is. I don't know what that thing is.
Speaker 1: Just causes a lot of light in the bedroom, so
Speaker 1: he has to build a barrier. But is there something where?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's supposed to be alone, but
Speaker 1: I might need the extra person to like well even
Speaker 1: to just be accountability. You guys do it, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: design together, but just like, hey, you know, don't forget
Speaker 1: to meditate. I don't know, just because I think for me,
Speaker 1: like I have a hard time working out by myself.
Speaker 1: I need to have either a trainer, or a sayer
Speaker 1: or someone with me. Well, I think the word meditate
Speaker 1: is also really scary because that makes you think like, Okay,
Speaker 1: to meditate, I gotta sit there and I gotta be
Speaker 1: Even if Michael was just like, hey, go take two
Speaker 1: minutes to yourself and by two minutes, put your phone
Speaker 1: down and go like but I mean again, but if
Speaker 1: you tell me too, because usually like do you want
Speaker 1: to put your phone down and go? And like like
Speaker 1: the other day, you know, he said, he's like, hey
Speaker 1: go because I was running around like crazy, there's so
Speaker 1: much to do, and he's like, go take a few
Speaker 1: minutes for yourself, and yeah, I did, I have my phone.
Speaker 1: I laid down and it was so it took me
Speaker 1: five times of saying that for you to go do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't. I feel like I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to convince you to do something for yourself.
Speaker 1: But if it's something where we know that the home,
Speaker 1: like maybe our homework right now, because it is true,
Speaker 1: like working out, I mean you're going to get the
Speaker 1: results and then I won't need you to ask me
Speaker 1: and be like, oh and that's my thing for me
Speaker 1: that I need that I know I need to do,
Speaker 1: but I might need the extra help of accountability for
Speaker 1: someone to say, hey, do you meditate today? I mean,
Speaker 1: even if it's like you're just going to sit out
Speaker 1: on your little wine porch with you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like there's it's such a specific thing meditating. But that's
Speaker 1: why I was kind of asking her, like running like
Speaker 1: to me, that's my meditating, like I'm not thinking about technically.
Speaker 1: She said that wasn't right. I know, but that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But because I think it's so extreme, and
Speaker 1: I think that's why it turns people off, because they think, oh,
Speaker 1: in order, you know which it is. But I think
Speaker 1: everyone maybe has their own way of meditating. I think
Speaker 1: the whole point of it is to not be distracted
Speaker 1: by something. So maybe to her point, it's your running
Speaker 1: is distracting you and distracting I don't know if that
Speaker 1: would be because, like Sarah said, you could go and
Speaker 1: sit out on the porch if you didn't have your
Speaker 1: phone and it was just quiet. Because I've done that
Speaker 1: at moments where I've just sat and you know how
Speaker 1: much I love our bar room and I sitting there
Speaker 1: and eat lunch. But I'm just sitting there and actually
Speaker 1: have your iPad or But I'm saying I've had moments
Speaker 1: where I've i haven't and I just sit there and
Speaker 1: it's just quiet and it's just me and my thoughts
Speaker 1: while I'm eating or something. What what did help me
Speaker 1: when I'm meditating a lot in the past. The reason
Speaker 1: why it's because I was in rehab and basically made
Speaker 1: you was God ad medic patients always helped me because
Speaker 1: if it's just music or whatever, I'm everywhere my head is.
Speaker 1: But guide and meditations are definitely what helped me get
Speaker 1: through and sit there for a twenty minute meditation sessions. Well,
Speaker 1: and the thing is my my therapist Amy. She we
Speaker 1: every session we start with the guide and meditation. But
Speaker 1: it's only five minutes, and I love it. It makes
Speaker 1: me so relaxed and like calm. Well that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: Maybe you only need five minutes, you know, not everyone
Speaker 1: is gonna I would Yeah, I wouldn't do more for
Speaker 1: me personally, I probably wouldn't do more than five. It's
Speaker 1: a lot to sit longer than that. But again, it
Speaker 1: depends on how it affects you. And maybe you can
Speaker 1: get to that point where we can start doing longer.
Speaker 1: But and I know for me or for us, we
Speaker 1: would have to do it either in the morning, first thing,
Speaker 1: or at night because if we went to hey, go
Speaker 1: take two minutes and it's like eleven o'clock, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be thinking about what we're gonna do after we're meditating.
Speaker 1: It's true, Yeah, okay, we're gonna sit there. It's like
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? You know what we don't
Speaker 1: do on the whine down to our We do not meditate, No,
Speaker 1: we do not. We gotta feel like that's so crazy
Speaker 1: that it's like we have more dates coming up. We
Speaker 1: are sold out in Chicago. We're so sorry, we we
Speaker 1: we UM well we'll add another date maybe hopefully next year.
Speaker 1: But UM wind down a sold out in Chicago. But
Speaker 1: there are still tickets Chicago to go to Michigan. They're
Speaker 1: still tickets available in Michigan. It's a close drive ish
Speaker 1: drive UM December fourth one in Michigan, December fire in Louisville.
Speaker 1: UM again, reminder the podcast wind out, it's like it's
Speaker 1: not really a podcast evening with Sarah's there and she's
Speaker 1: are a little like spit fire. You guys, we have
Speaker 1: so much fun Sarah the text Kylie s oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: our nanny. Kylie sent us a video today because so
Speaker 1: back up real fast, Michael. We're in Nashville the show.
Speaker 1: First of all, those two back to back shows the
Speaker 1: Nashville were incredible. Weed Emily Giffen on our Atlanta show,
Speaker 1: she was insane, which I wanted to call on because
Speaker 1: she's the best. I'll try to get her on just
Speaker 1: because she's a spit fire. Within the Nashville show, he
Speaker 1: had Lauren and Chris. They were also amazing. Um so
Speaker 1: again you can get some guests as well. But Michael
Speaker 1: was trying to go through what was the story because
Speaker 1: I was getting I went out to get the audience
Speaker 1: members that we're going to have to come up on
Speaker 1: stage and play a little game, and I grabbed the
Speaker 1: four of them and I had a few drinks. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I had a few drinks, So I went I
Speaker 1: tried to take them backstage and there's a wall with
Speaker 1: a big gass curtain and I couldn't find where the
Speaker 1: doorway was. So I'm sitting there, which felt like an eternity,
Speaker 1: trying to open this curtain, and someone that works there
Speaker 1: is like, you gotta go this way, and four people
Speaker 1: behind me. The whole audience like watching me. I'm just
Speaker 1: going at a brick wall, trying to go through a curtain.
Speaker 1: So a nanny sends us this video which I'm going
Speaker 1: to put on Instagram, So you guys go to my
Speaker 1: Instagram story. It's hilarious. I'm not even gonna like I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see that. Okay, well I'm gonna show.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you right now. I need you, I
Speaker 1: need you to know everyone right now to go to
Speaker 1: my story. This is like father like son trying to
Speaker 1: get through stop. So Kylie sends it and says, my
Speaker 1: dad trying to get curtains. Dad trying to get to
Speaker 1: the curtains at the Nashville show the other night, Mike
Speaker 1: was dead. That is so funny. And then can we
Speaker 1: talk about what happened after the show? I'm in Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys, By the way, I just need to tell you,
Speaker 1: like this was the best show ever, Like it really was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think it was Atlanta and Nashville killed.
Speaker 1: And so afterwards we go back and I'm I'm in
Speaker 1: the shower. You know everyone's done. I have friends to
Speaker 1: tell you something. I did something really like, oh I'm scared. No,
Speaker 1: we'll go ahead. Okay, So I don't even know what's
Speaker 1: going on. Well, no, it was just funny because you know,
Speaker 1: we're all done. I go back and I'm in the
Speaker 1: shower and I'm showering, Okay, I mean, you know, and
Speaker 1: live a sudden she walks in the bathroom and goes, Sarah,
Speaker 1: I scream, she's so yes. I thought maybe she woke
Speaker 1: up Jay's that's how mind dude. This is like thirty
Speaker 1: minutes later, like the night is come in there because
Speaker 1: you came in to tell me that Mike passed out's
Speaker 1: room and I literally look at her. I go, what
Speaker 1: is wrong with you? Like I'm showering, and she goes, okay,
Speaker 1: I just I need to tell you that, Um I
Speaker 1: just went to say a night to Julian Mike's passed
Speaker 1: out in her bad and she goes, why are you
Speaker 1: telling me this right now? I think the show. I
Speaker 1: literally was like her vagina. But this is also because
Speaker 1: that morning she said that the h Bat guys came
Speaker 1: in too, Like look at the air and she's like,
Speaker 1: they almost came into your room and you would have
Speaker 1: freaked out. So all of a sudden, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: thought it was the h bat guy. More like, you
Speaker 1: scared the ship out of me. Oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 1: but what Okay, So I saw your ring sitting on
Speaker 1: the counter and so wait, you moved it. No, you good,
Speaker 1: I thought. So I saw her ringing in the counter
Speaker 1: and legs by the sink, which is a scary place.
Speaker 1: Pitter ring. Okay, So I saw the ring and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm gonna steal the ring. So I
Speaker 1: took the ring. I had it on like, I put
Speaker 1: it like on my finger, which it didn't fit. And
Speaker 1: I walked out of the room because I wanted to
Speaker 1: scare her in there before I knew you were showering. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know how long you weren't. I opened I
Speaker 1: went straight in your room and opened the door. And
Speaker 1: then right when I was leaving this and I grabbed
Speaker 1: the ring. And I obviously have my background, like you
Speaker 1: can see me from behind because this is I'm showering. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like the person who doesn't care, like
Speaker 1: I walk around. I know you're like, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I see. So I have the ring and then I
Speaker 1: go into our room and I'm like Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: want to like freaker out, king scream if it were gone.
Speaker 1: You think I was scared of that because then I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's like twelve o'clock, so she's gonna
Speaker 1: probably be looking for the next hour and then she's
Speaker 1: gonna be freaking out and not go to sleep. But
Speaker 1: I had a full conversation of how me now I
Speaker 1: was going to be with the ring, and so I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I don't want to have to come in
Speaker 1: the room because I'm gonna be sleeping, and then michaelll
Speaker 1: be sleeping, and she's still not going to be sleeping.
Speaker 1: So I'm like going through this. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it back. So I bring it back
Speaker 1: in the room and then I just put it on
Speaker 1: the dresser. She puts it on the dresser. I didn't
Speaker 1: leave it on the dresser. I put them a long
Speaker 1: mothercking way from the bathroom sink. No, do you know
Speaker 1: that I have literally all the bleeps because this is
Speaker 1: no joke. I literally talked about walked out and I
Speaker 1: saw my ring standing there, and I go, I am,
Speaker 1: first of all, I am not that drunk. I did
Speaker 1: not put my ring there and I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I was mental, and then I'm like maybe no, she
Speaker 1: was in your first split. Secondly, I was just like
Speaker 1: washing my armpits like she didn't have time to take
Speaker 1: who No, I'm like, the guys came. Oh. I was
Speaker 1: literally that's amazing you too. It was the story, the
Speaker 1: fact that you even have to going there. Mike has
Speaker 1: passed out in Jolie's bed, passed out because Jolie woke
Speaker 1: up and she wanted me to lay with her when
Speaker 1: we got home. So I was like, all right, and
Speaker 1: then good night, goodbye. Dad gets let's it's let drunk.
Speaker 1: Mike comes out. It was funny. Oh, this is funny. Beforehand,
Speaker 1: before the show, Jane is like, all right, come on,
Speaker 1: like I need drunk min like, let's go. Let's go
Speaker 1: like force feeding me drinks. And then we're like on
Speaker 1: the car ride back and Jana says something about getting
Speaker 1: the kids in the morning. She goes, Mike, are you drunk?
Speaker 1: And You're like, I mean, I'm not not drunk. She's like, well,
Speaker 1: just so you know you're taking to Julia, you're taking
Speaker 1: Julia school in the morning. Yeah, she says, I'm not
Speaker 1: getting getting umber the King and you literally, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you thinking for me to get drunk. Now I get hammered.
Speaker 1: And now you're like, oh, by the way, you're waking
Speaker 1: up at because I had to work. You're only funny
Speaker 1: when you're drunk. He said that. Somebody said that, and
Speaker 1: he's like, no, no, not you just listen up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we're more. But he's like, I'm like, just because
Speaker 1: you drank, I'm like, that's not my fault forced you to.
Speaker 1: I was like, on that contrary, nous. Anyone there that
Speaker 1: was witnessing basically saw you funnel alcohol down my mouth.
Speaker 1: Oh it's so fun. Okay, it's all fun and games.
Speaker 1: But hopefully we'll see you guys in Detroit and Louisville
Speaker 1: because it's a rowdy time. Rowdy. All right, let's take
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Speaker 1: All right, So we are extremely extremely fortunate to have
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got these guys on our show.
Speaker 1: I mean they're going to be so impact doing a
Speaker 1: tour after this. UM. We have Becca Betania, Becca Tilly
Speaker 1: and Tanya Rad the winners of the Best Pop Podcast
Speaker 1: at the PC as scrubbing in you guys, congratulations seriously,
Speaker 1: from the bottom of our hearts. We were so freaking
Speaker 1: we wanted it to be you guys. We wanted you
Speaker 1: to two pee. I told you that. I know, I know.
Speaker 1: It's like so nice, Like I just like you're scrubbing
Speaker 1: in listeners. Man, there they are avid literally voters. I mean,
Speaker 1: but do you know what's funny though, I really because
Speaker 1: I really like that's me. I'm that person, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, I mean, I I voted
Speaker 1: for your podcast a few times. I voted for ours
Speaker 1: maybe three thousand times, like that, I didn't even vote
Speaker 1: for ours, did you vote for you're saying like I
Speaker 1: am that person though that like whenever, like people, when
Speaker 1: I do that, it's easy. It's on your computer. I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting here. But when I was in high school,
Speaker 1: I do this stuff all the time. I were in
Speaker 1: sync for everything. Like I was that person. So like
Speaker 1: it makes sense that like our listeners are at least
Speaker 1: half of our listeners one half of this group, because
Speaker 1: are just going bananas on that, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's awesome though, but it's not just about I mean
Speaker 1: what you guys talk about. You guys are relatable, you're fun,
Speaker 1: you know you guys guys, I mean you are. And
Speaker 1: I watched you tell Pink you and your husband have
Speaker 1: really helped us, and I was like, wow, but it's
Speaker 1: true though, that was something you do for other people.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, yeah, well, we all have our lanes,
Speaker 1: we do, and we're all staying in them, but we're
Speaker 1: rooting you guys onto that. I'm saying. Our lanes are
Speaker 1: crossing over and then they crossed back over, but they're
Speaker 1: all going guess which way in direction? Forward? Forward? They're
Speaker 1: all going forward. Yeah, and we're all we're all better
Speaker 1: or because of it. I love the healthy competition too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we all wanted to win. Sure would be like
Speaker 1: bummed for a hot second, but I'm like so happy
Speaker 1: back Antonia. Well of course it's again. We kind of
Speaker 1: mentioned on their podcast that it's it's about the mutual respect,
Speaker 1: that it's not that fake support and appreciation for the
Speaker 1: other people. It's like, okay, that's it's like it is.
Speaker 1: It does feel like family and friends are winning too.
Speaker 1: It's like, y'all win, we win, you know, especially being
Speaker 1: a part of the Heart family too. That's definitely even
Speaker 1: bigger part of it. You have some different podcasts, one
Speaker 1: that wasn't like I'd kind of be like, like, wait,
Speaker 1: you're not an I heeart? Do you even exist? Do
Speaker 1: you even go here? Go here? Exactly? Gina George their ass. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you guys are taking you scrubbing In on the road.
Speaker 1: I heard maybe possibly two dates are taking well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're doing a little little test to run who shows
Speaker 1: up San Francisco in l A. That's awesome. So what
Speaker 1: can they expect when they come see scrubbing In in person?
Speaker 1: You know, probably a lot of women empowerment talk, a
Speaker 1: lot of friendship vibes. We just want people to come show.
Speaker 1: Every time we do something where people come and show
Speaker 1: up from our podcast, it feels like people are making
Speaker 1: friends that people that maybe didn't have friends or didn't
Speaker 1: know people in the city that they live and get
Speaker 1: to meet people. And it's really cool to kind of
Speaker 1: be a part of watching what we've built in this community.
Speaker 1: But they've kind of taken it on there. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Facebook group itself hasn't. I literally every time we
Speaker 1: meet our listeners, I don't leave without crying at least once. Um,
Speaker 1: and last time we had like a meet up or
Speaker 1: whenever this girl came and she was like, hey, do
Speaker 1: you guys remember Um we had a listener who was
Speaker 1: going through chemo and she was in the hospital and
Speaker 1: we had her on the show. One of our other
Speaker 1: listeners connected with her through Facebook and got like just
Speaker 1: randomly reach out to her and became friends with her
Speaker 1: on the Facebook page and then got a video of
Speaker 1: us like saying hi to her at the party so
Speaker 1: she could send it to her. So she so, so
Speaker 1: it really is cool. And so as far as like
Speaker 1: the run of the show, neither of us sing, neither
Speaker 1: of us dance. Well, well do you guys you've won
Speaker 1: now two years in a row, People's Charts of Word
Speaker 1: for best Pop Podcast. What do you guys have now
Speaker 1: going into the next year, Like what excites you or
Speaker 1: what do you want to bring to the table or
Speaker 1: you know, elevate your your performance to make it a
Speaker 1: three peat because we're gonna be coming for you. Do
Speaker 1: you know what's funny? I really do want to like
Speaker 1: have every year towards the end of the year, when
Speaker 1: the year's winding down and the new one begins, I
Speaker 1: kind of really get really intentional about like my goals,
Speaker 1: my dreams and my plans, and they feel like this
Speaker 1: kind of really reinvigorated me to kind of like, can
Speaker 1: I say pull my balls out? Yeah? We talked about
Speaker 1: all the balls and yeah, yeah, all right, so that
Speaker 1: just means that we have to fight even hard to
Speaker 1: then your two balls out. We got We'll grab Market Easton's.
Speaker 1: We needn't want to eat from Market. Yeah. I'm so
Speaker 1: excited for you guys than you know. I was watching
Speaker 1: like all day yesterday everyone snaps and everyone's Instagram's and
Speaker 1: you killing it out there. Thank you what you're doing
Speaker 1: with It's kind of fun. I know, it's really fun.
Speaker 1: And they're like, so it's really it's so hard for
Speaker 1: me and I talked about it all the time on
Speaker 1: our podcast. I suffer immensely from imposter syndrome, Like I
Speaker 1: never feel like I belong where I am, and the
Speaker 1: people at E really give me a run for my
Speaker 1: money and when because they're just so nice and encouraging
Speaker 1: taking they do, and I don't know how to take
Speaker 1: compliments because I'm like, this is so weird. It was insane.
Speaker 1: Every single place that we went, whether we were like
Speaker 1: backstage or on the carpet, anyone for me, they were like, Tanya,
Speaker 1: we love you so much, like we can't wait to
Speaker 1: do more with you. Like it's really cool to see
Speaker 1: her getting the recognition that she deserves, because I think
Speaker 1: sometimes she feels she says, she doesn't feel like she
Speaker 1: deserves it. And so every single person I saw there like,
Speaker 1: we love you and they hug her, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: what if these people hug everybody? You know? Everybody? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been It was really special. And Becca, you have
Speaker 1: your new line out at Macy's right, Yes, I have
Speaker 1: my life. Thank you so much. I mean, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Tell us more, tell us more. Um, yeah, it's available.
Speaker 1: It's Um it's a great Christmas gift, great Thanksgiving outfit
Speaker 1: if you because you know, you get dressed up for
Speaker 1: your Thanksgiving dinner for some reason while you're all sitting
Speaker 1: around with your family. Need to look good. Um. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's available on Macy's dot com and then in overs.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. What's next for you guys, both professionally, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Building this podcast is getting
Speaker 1: ready for next year's people came on Bitches Game on.
Speaker 1: They're already starting their acceptance speech for next year. Well,
Speaker 1: next time they need to hear it. They didn't hear it,
Speaker 1: Well they did. Yeah, when it showed us hugging and
Speaker 1: like it said pop podcast, it was like a bump
Speaker 1: into commercial. It was like, but I still aired it,
Speaker 1: which was like super cute. Still you should be able
Speaker 1: to go up on stage and say thank you. There's
Speaker 1: forty three categories for that show. So yeah, how popular
Speaker 1: a podcast like everyone getting nowadays. That's true. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like, oh, I'm listening to this podcast. I'm listening
Speaker 1: that one. I do have a little bit of a
Speaker 1: far fetched goal at some point in my life. I
Speaker 1: would like to win a Grammy. Everyone was just like
Speaker 1: looking at it to sing no no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: I can't sing, but I want to write a song
Speaker 1: that's what that wins a Grammy. That's yeah, yeah, like collaborations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: please guys, because ultimate goal in life is to be
Speaker 1: on the Grammy board, and you have to have one
Speaker 1: have been nominated for Grammy to be on the board.
Speaker 1: So that's your that's your goal goal. Yeah, that's my
Speaker 1: like career goal. What's okay? I like this, what's your
Speaker 1: life career goal? I don't think like that, Honestly, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't have like five year plans. I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I was just about to say, my life goal
Speaker 1: is literally to make it to Friday, like Grammy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like my life goal at this point is like me
Speaker 1: and figuring out a great lunch for today after this,
Speaker 1: Me and tany are are the same. I'm somewhere in between,
Speaker 1: are you, though? I am, because I still what's your
Speaker 1: life goal? I still talked about with the stuff that
Speaker 1: we're doing. Ultimately I would do I mean to be
Speaker 1: like a Mike and Jannah competitors against Kelly and Ryan,
Speaker 1: like a TV show. I think I think that would
Speaker 1: be something that we have talked about that we would
Speaker 1: like to eventually get into, and even if it's us
Speaker 1: with another couple and we bring people on and have
Speaker 1: conversations and stuff like that. So that's kind of where
Speaker 1: I want to take this thing. Um, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: But then, but then, and then Sarah's our DJ on
Speaker 1: the side, like, wait, Dona, what's your life goal? I
Speaker 1: would I would want to be, well, obviously the best
Speaker 1: mom in the world what you are, But I I
Speaker 1: my dream would be like a Kelley and Ryan with
Speaker 1: with Mike, um, let's go. But then to be on
Speaker 1: like a like a regular show to like to do like,
Speaker 1: you know, five Hallmark movies a year, if you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, one of those kind of things. Do
Speaker 1: you love Hallmark movies? I do love Hallmark movies. But
Speaker 1: I also have a lifetime movie coming out on Saturday,
Speaker 1: so um called Christmas and Louisiana. So I'm Saturday. Everybody
Speaker 1: mark your calendars because yeah, that'll be there. So so
Speaker 1: I just I would love to just keep doing acting.
Speaker 1: I want to do it all. But would you like
Speaker 1: to do another um like TV show like One Tree
Speaker 1: Hill or do you like, Yes, I would love to
Speaker 1: do so. For example, like I tested for The Resident.
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I remember you telling you that.
Speaker 1: But that's what I want. I want to get on
Speaker 1: a show like a procedural and just be like the
Speaker 1: fifth lead show up, do my job, get out, have
Speaker 1: a just a ongoing check career job, and then I
Speaker 1: can do my stuff on the side and do like
Speaker 1: the Morning Show with Mike or you know, and then
Speaker 1: do this and that and the other one. Have you guys,
Speaker 1: have you guys watched The Morning Show with Jenners. It's
Speaker 1: so good. Really, it's fantastic. Don't listen to reviews because
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. But what's so great about it is Jeanna
Speaker 1: wants to be Jennifer Anderson's character in that show so
Speaker 1: bad because that's like her spirit animal. Is that character
Speaker 1: just chaos and putting out fires and Boston people around
Speaker 1: and handling things and just owning and just walking around
Speaker 1: where everyone's just kind of like Jane's coming is intersting.
Speaker 1: You are not a typical sagittary I am in relationships.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say it, Are you a typical
Speaker 1: sageant relationship? One thousand percent? So you just like adapt.
Speaker 1: I fall in love real fast. I want them to
Speaker 1: fall in love with me, and then I can draw
Speaker 1: something tension as fast as possible. This is my friend
Speaker 1: just got out of a breakup, and she is she's
Speaker 1: on the cusp of Scorpio and sage, but I think
Speaker 1: she's more of a Sagean relationships and she's we are
Speaker 1: hard to tie down. So good job, baby. I'm a Pisces,
Speaker 1: I'm a fish hanging on the hook. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to shake me can I say how proud I am
Speaker 1: of this conversation right now? Anytime we have guests on,
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, what's your sign? And Chance like it's
Speaker 1: not real, Like why do you care? I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: it actually is real, and I really do care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, like so real's sere will be like a
Speaker 1: checkout line if the if the red cash register persons
Speaker 1: like says something particularly, they're definitely a say that's that's
Speaker 1: how Sarah, Oh you're such a cancer, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I am how do you know? I'm like yeah, But
Speaker 1: what if they're like no, I'm not. I'm like then
Speaker 1: you're either I'm like, are you maybe a Gemini or Leo?
Speaker 1: And then they're like actually Emilio And I'm like, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I was a little off. All Right, you guys give
Speaker 1: it up again for Rebecca People's Choice Award. We'll see
Speaker 1: you next year, ladies, we will see you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same thing as Tanya, just like
Speaker 1: have like someone going like little little people from I
Speaker 1: don't know you, Well, you didn't do good enough? You
Speaker 1: did you do it three thousand times a day? No,
Speaker 1: not a day. I didn't I think collectively, I did
Speaker 1: three thousand. Okay, I think a day. I think a day.
Speaker 1: I probably gave us how many a day per email?
Speaker 1: And I used four emails a day, so hundred a day.
Speaker 1: Get better? You are a bot now and that's all right.
Speaker 1: You'll give it up for them. Thanks for having up. Okay,
Speaker 1: do we have any good emails that? Um? Oh, this
Speaker 1: is actually a good one. Can I read this one?
Speaker 1: My abusive ex boyfriend texted me. I'm twenty seven years
Speaker 1: old and about five years ago, I was an abusive
Speaker 1: relationship with a guy that I had a very strong
Speaker 1: connection with. While the abuse was mainly emotional manipulative. By
Speaker 1: the way, I just want to say, anonymous, don't ever
Speaker 1: downplay that ever, because emotional and manipulative abuse well, and
Speaker 1: I'm sometimes it's worse. I'd be like, this is left up,
Speaker 1: but I'd rather you hit me than say the stuff
Speaker 1: that you say, So don't ever downplay that. Okay. It
Speaker 1: did cross lines of other forms as well. Recently, he
Speaker 1: reached out with an apology and I tried to ignore
Speaker 1: it until one night I got drunk and message back.
Speaker 1: He's apologetic, says he regrets what he did to me.
Speaker 1: More than anything and wants us to be together. However,
Speaker 1: he has also spent time in therapy and now fully
Speaker 1: recognizes he is a psychopath. Oh sorry, sociopath. Sorry. I
Speaker 1: know we aren't going to end up together, but sometimes
Speaker 1: but something keeps I know we aren't going to end
Speaker 1: up together, but something keeps me connected to this. I'm curious,
Speaker 1: especially Janna, if you have any advice on how to
Speaker 1: just move on for good. That's hard. Um. I remember
Speaker 1: my abuser emailed me when he got out of jail
Speaker 1: and actually talked to him on the phone. UM. And
Speaker 1: I feel like the more you have communication with them,
Speaker 1: the more you go back to that place of how
Speaker 1: do I say it, like you become It takes you back,
Speaker 1: and it takes you back to being that not I
Speaker 1: don't want to say the victim. It takes me back
Speaker 1: to being yeah, dependent and to being like, maybe I
Speaker 1: was crazier, maybe it was my fault, and maybe I
Speaker 1: should be sorry, and maybe I should help him, and
Speaker 1: maybe I should. It's just it's a it's a rough
Speaker 1: road to go down. Having said that, if he's getting
Speaker 1: the help and this is this is I think people
Speaker 1: make mistakes, they grow. I mean, she even said, I
Speaker 1: know we aren't going to end up together. If you
Speaker 1: know that, then just to stop, then stop because then
Speaker 1: there's but you also know people can change too, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. No, obviously I'm an advocate for that. But
Speaker 1: if she if she says to herself, I know we're
Speaker 1: not gonna end up together, then then what what's what's
Speaker 1: the point You're gonna keep bringing that back into your life.
Speaker 1: It's just back and forth. That's that's going to be
Speaker 1: unhealthy for her and you just you need to get
Speaker 1: the abuser out of your life at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, especially if it was especially if she was
Speaker 1: saying like I really you know, see a future and
Speaker 1: I want this. But it's like you're saying, you aren't
Speaker 1: gonna end up together. So don't even you know, put
Speaker 1: yourself back there. Let him heal and grow on his own,
Speaker 1: which is probably harder. That's a real tough one then,
Speaker 1: because you just go right back into that. Well maybe
Speaker 1: it's my fault, you know what. This is so messed up.
Speaker 1: But when I was in therapy with my therapist, she
Speaker 1: goes why, she has asked me, She's like, why did
Speaker 1: you stay in these relationships? And it was the first time,
Speaker 1: I was like, because I I didn't think I deserved
Speaker 1: any better. And I think women like that will continue
Speaker 1: to think that they don't deserve any better. I think
Speaker 1: that's um extremely common. I think a lot of women
Speaker 1: would say that, and that's what's so heartbreaking and messed
Speaker 1: up and messed up because why who you know? We
Speaker 1: don't need to go there, but like, why would you
Speaker 1: think that? You know? I don't know that because but
Speaker 1: it's not because also it comes from the abuser and
Speaker 1: events and saying then you're crazy, it's your fault. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, guys made me feel like it was
Speaker 1: my fault and then it was crazy. But that's the manipulator,
Speaker 1: that's and that's the that's the emotional manipulative abuser that's
Speaker 1: making you feel crazy that you Yeah, let's do this.
Speaker 1: Other email from Faith Okay, age gaps in time alone.
Speaker 1: I've been in a relationship for about two years now
Speaker 1: with someone who's torn years older I'm five. We're totally compatible,
Speaker 1: but I get tons of backlash from close friends and
Speaker 1: family because of his age. My question is, how do
Speaker 1: you guys feel about an age difference in a relationship?
Speaker 1: And then we'll tackle that, and then we'll go to
Speaker 1: the second question. I have zero issue with an age gap.
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me. I mean obviously have dated men
Speaker 1: older than me. And I was going to ask you
Speaker 1: this is why I wanted to read this one, because
Speaker 1: how did you handle that when you had friends or
Speaker 1: family being like all right, I mean I didn't care,
Speaker 1: straight up, straight up didn't care. I feel like the
Speaker 1: only time people care is like maybe in her um instance,
Speaker 1: where it's like she's forty five, it's like if you're
Speaker 1: not on like if she wants kids and he's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the only time when like your friends
Speaker 1: or people really care is when it is affecting your
Speaker 1: if you two are like majorly different, or say he's
Speaker 1: been married already twice, he doesn't want to get married anymore,
Speaker 1: but you're only you know, yeah, But I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care about yeah. If you if
Speaker 1: you're connected to someone, you're gone to someone. So I
Speaker 1: will say, and this is just being honest. If Jolie
Speaker 1: he's in her twenties and she's dating someone in her forties,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm going to have more questions. That's a
Speaker 1: really good point. Sure, but you there's a soul's connection
Speaker 1: to and I think that's what you have to remember.
Speaker 1: And that's sure I probably will too. One Jason's dating,
Speaker 1: here are your girl, I'd be like, what is your
Speaker 1: what do you you know? What is it? Right? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, do you you dated older men? Do
Speaker 1: you contribute that to just your shoulds being attracted or
Speaker 1: do you contribute it to issues with your father? Total
Speaker 1: daddy issues? Right? So that's what I'm saying, is there.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that any age gap relationship right here,
Speaker 1: right right, but I'm not saying that there is always
Speaker 1: unhealthiness attached to it. But yeah, maybe the same time.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, and you can usually sense that, you
Speaker 1: know what, then no chantelle and what is his face?
Speaker 1: You know, the my chantelle from the older not not
Speaker 1: that victor the other one in the label head like
Speaker 1: there the great dad? You know. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's not always time to that, but I just from
Speaker 1: my experience through you, I know that's kind of where
Speaker 1: it stunned. So I mean, alright, second questions about codependency.
Speaker 1: My boyfriend needs time to himself, as does everyone the
Speaker 1: way he would The way he would do that is
Speaker 1: by taking days off work or leaving work early so
Speaker 1: he could go home and have his alone time and
Speaker 1: relax without telling me. I would find out by coming
Speaker 1: home and him being there. My first reaction was to
Speaker 1: assume I did I did something wrong to make him
Speaker 1: not want me to know. When I brought it up,
Speaker 1: he told me he's just not used to talking about
Speaker 1: everything he does. Like Mike myself mentioned, I talked about
Speaker 1: my daily plans and give him step by step breakdown
Speaker 1: of my day. My question is do you think I
Speaker 1: was wrong for being bothered that he wasn't telling me
Speaker 1: he wanted alone And this is the age difference. Just
Speaker 1: about to say that this is the age difference a
Speaker 1: forty five year olds like, I don't need to tell
Speaker 1: you when I take a piss yeah, Or he's like,
Speaker 1: so that's that's he just doesn't need he's been doing
Speaker 1: him for four yeah, right, he's set in his way
Speaker 1: of and so to to him, he's like, you don't
Speaker 1: need to tell me when you're going to the store
Speaker 1: to sufford to pick up some more. I say, I
Speaker 1: talked about my daily plans. To give him a step
Speaker 1: by st and that's awesome that you do. But he's
Speaker 1: very millennial of you. I do the same same I
Speaker 1: mean me too. I hear your faith. I do the
Speaker 1: exact same thing. But a forty five year old. And
Speaker 1: I mean, and here's a man. Yeah, and then and
Speaker 1: then men don't really unless you're Eastern, men don't really
Speaker 1: do play by play of the day, very seldom know.
Speaker 1: And do you think it's But I also think it's
Speaker 1: aged though, because I mean even when I dated you know,
Speaker 1: sweet John, you know what I mean, it's just like
Speaker 1: he just like I don't care. Yeah, I mean, but
Speaker 1: that's how I am too, and I'm thirty two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's I think, definitely think it's a man thing.
Speaker 1: But also do you think there's codependency related. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's codependent. It's not codependent. It's just like
Speaker 1: it's just how you are. It's not we just wanted
Speaker 1: to be in involved. It's the way you do things
Speaker 1: so naturally in relationships. As part of the compromise, right,
Speaker 1: it's understand that people just handle things differently. And I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, maybe she's already a little insecure because
Speaker 1: she's much younger than him, so she just kind of
Speaker 1: is like, why aren't you telling me these things? Like
Speaker 1: why you know, maybe her emotions are more heightened because
Speaker 1: she feels like, you know, she's younger, and he's probably
Speaker 1: just like doing his thing, and she's like, just tell me.
Speaker 1: I just want to know what's going on. But I
Speaker 1: also think if the roles were reversed, you would be
Speaker 1: upset if I wouldn't Okay, you can. I would love
Speaker 1: to try that. I'd love to challenge that if you
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't tell you, if you didn't tell him,
Speaker 1: you're like day plans and you just cut my day
Speaker 1: plans and I didn't put it on the calendar and
Speaker 1: did and I just did me. I think you would
Speaker 1: be like what. It's actually really funny because I'm the
Speaker 1: one who's always texting Tie, what's up? What's up? What's
Speaker 1: the plan? What's the plan? But if I go like
Speaker 1: if I'm here and we're here for a couple of
Speaker 1: he'll be like, wait, where what's going? Where are you?
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's my thoughts. So probably because you're
Speaker 1: used to because challenge, I don't know he wouldn't be mad,
Speaker 1: but I think you'd be like, oh wait, what's why
Speaker 1: did you like, why didn't you tell me that it
Speaker 1: would take getting used to. Yeah, I will say it
Speaker 1: would be adjustment period because I am used to that,
Speaker 1: so it would be like, I'm surprised you didn't tell
Speaker 1: me exactly. But for me, it's like, Okay, I know
Speaker 1: we have Kylie from this time, this time, do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I know we have coverage on the kids j So
Speaker 1: it's just like, do whatever you need to do. I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's get your nails downe or work, like,
Speaker 1: do whatever you gotta do. And I want to be
Speaker 1: able to do the same thing. Gran boundaries, so I
Speaker 1: check in and all that stuff so you know where
Speaker 1: I'm at. But still I would hashtag challenge UM big
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