1 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Ask your question. 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: Let's just keep it real stration eye with no Chase, 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a little bit roughly. 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm here for it. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Those who really believe in the American process, all of 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: us street. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: Shot, no Chase, what your girl testing? Figure out on 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: the black effect? Podcasting that word, that word. 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: It's just one less door I got to knock on 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: the always more people that don't vote that do vote. 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: Is it great though, to have the conversation out there 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 2: to say, hey, if they don't do what we want 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: to do, we're not gonna vote. Yes, that is an 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: effective strategy. I'm not saying that that's not a good strategy. 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you it's more to that strategy than 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: just saying we ain't gonna vote. Because when it comes 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: down to the actual numbers, you help your candidate, you 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: help the candidate that you don't like, unless you have 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: a candidate that runs against them. And I'm not talking 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: about for Congress and president. I'm talking about on the 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: state level. So now, instead of Marcel trying to get 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: fifty thousand people to vote for him, your state rep 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: only need fifteen hundred votes. What's easier to do fifteen 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: hundred or fifteen thousand. It has nothing to do. Marcell 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: will say, yeah, but I'm I'm running for Congress because 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: that'shere we're gonna get reparations done. No, no, no, no, no. 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: It's not about where you're gonna get it done or 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: what you're the most qualified for. When attorneys come to 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: me and say, well, I want to run for Congress 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: because that's where my skill set is. 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: No, I'm trying to tell you where your influence is. 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: You go where your influence is, because if you if 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: it's a shot in hell for you to win and 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: you're not or the two thousand people that you get 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: to vote for you, and you're not turning that into 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: a pack, you don't have influence. So you still ain't 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: gonna They don't have to take a meeting with you. 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: They have to take a meeting with Bernie Sanders because 39 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: he had influence. They had to take a meeting with 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: Mayor p because he had influence. They had to take 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: a meeting with the Warning because she had influence. And 42 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: you only get that by continuing the movement with the 43 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: people that show up for you. When people showed up 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: for Bernie sandersy winning started our revolution, which is a pack. 45 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: If you're not doing that, you don't have any power. 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: You don't have any influence. 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: It's just talk. You have to be able to say, these. 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: Are my people, and I'm gonna have them move here 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: or there. Tell THEWD they're gonna take you serious. In 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: addition to the media, in addition to the provocateurs, in 51 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: addition to the subscribe, now the share and the click like, 52 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: I got it, but who what are the numbers? 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: Are you moving? 54 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: So it's not about well, I'm running for reparations, because that'shere, 55 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna get repeerations on the federal level. No, if 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: you run and actually get you some power as a 57 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: state rep. You have power. Now they have to listen 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: to you because you are an elected representative. And every 59 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: person in Congress still got to deal with they state. 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: Representative. 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: When they come around and shake hands. You would know 62 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: this if y'all worked on campaigns when they come around 63 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: and shake hands. That's why when we said the system 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: was rig with Bernie Sanders, that's what we were talking about. 65 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 2: Because in order for Bernie Sanders to walk in somebody's church, 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: we gotta get the green light from the state rep. 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: We gotta get the green light from the city commissioner. 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: We got to get the green light from the mayor. 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: It was the mayor of Detroit locking that shit up 70 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: for Bernie Sands was no damn person in Congress. The 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: local and state people got way more power. And you 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: ain't gonna read that, no damn book. You want the 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: power because now if you get fifteen hundred people to 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: come to the polls, which is much easier, except Gabe, 75 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: he can't get one hundred and fifty to come. Then 76 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: now now you're now state Representative Marcel Dixon, and now 77 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: get getting Jim Copburn. Gotta respect you. So what's easier 78 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred people to go to the polls? Are fifteen thousand? 79 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: Do the math. 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: Then after that you take the fifteen hundred that you 81 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: actually won. And now you do what they do, what 82 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: the establishment does. Now you spending your your your budget 83 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: on constant advertisement for you year round. Now you go 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: after this seat and you win. There's a strategy strategy 85 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: to this, guys. So I'm gonna bring Marcus up because 86 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: I know who Marcus is and I know his receipts. 87 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: I don't like bringing up people that I don't know 88 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: who you are. Like I said, I like docs on 89 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: docs crime, I like you gotta dox yourself to go 90 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: back and forth with me. 91 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't like hiding in the bushes. Fucked that. 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: Let's let's put everything on the Bring up Marcus because 93 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: I know he had something to chime in. Who also 94 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: was responsible for doctor West being on the Bernie Sanders 95 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: campaign and doctor West again this conversation, those are tapping in, 96 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: what does it mean to run to win. 97 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: Being a disruptive candidate? What agenda should you run on? 98 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: And for those of y'all to say, well, I ain't 99 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: vote for doctor West, well, who the hell you voting 100 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: for it? 101 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: Then? 102 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Because I don't see you putting up nobody on the state. 103 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 2: Level, on the local level, and damn show the president level. 104 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: You can run for president all you want to. I'm 105 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: trying to talk about. 106 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: I'm talking about what can you do to actually get 107 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: some damn power instead of just being a joke. 108 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: Marcus, you got the floor. 109 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: For those who are listening, this will be available on 110 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: Straight Shot No Chaser podcasts on my podcast. 111 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: This this is recorded. Hey Marcus, what's up? 112 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: How you doing? 113 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: I'm fine, honey, are you I'm good? 114 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 3: I'm good. Check us out. Everything ever said was true. 115 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: And I love how you paulay the conversation about doctor 116 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: West into electoral politics because there's a lot of talk 117 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: and there's not enough proper action when it comes down 118 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: to folks on Twitter. And I'm not pointing fingers at 119 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: any particular person. It's just we're gonna be honest about 120 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: galvanizing the organizing our community. I do got. I had 121 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: two things put in chance that I'm abouts real quick. 122 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: The first thing is about doctor West. You know, you know, 123 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: doctor West and I are friends, right, And I'm gonna 124 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: tell you like I don't like I don't like the 125 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: People's Party, the people. I don't like the People's Party, 126 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: but I do like him, right, And it is what 127 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: it is. You can say whatever you want to say 128 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 3: about doctor West. But doctor West became a became what 129 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: he is to establishment democrats through their own mistakes. Doctor 130 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: West was a complete establishment supporting guy. He was a 131 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: complete Obama guy in two thousand and eight, he was. 132 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: And then slowly during that process when Doc was asking 133 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: for particulars about the black community and and and and 134 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: uh and in the Obama administration, that's when he slowly 135 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: became a different person because he started to see what 136 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: establishment politics meant in America. Right. You gotta you gotta 137 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: know what created the animal that created you. And sometimes 138 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: the people that you dismissed become your worst nightmare and 139 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: your worst your worst enemy. And I'm gonna tell you 140 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: like this right here, there's a lot of establishment Democrats, 141 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: I know, right and right now, they publicly are gonna 142 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: say all this is nothing, but probably they know that 143 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: it's a problem. West Brennan is not gonna be something 144 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: that you're gonna be able to just push over and 145 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: and say, Okay, well, he's never never gonna get wanna go. 146 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: If that brother gets on any state's ballot, his name 147 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: alone is gonna take away those margins that these Democrats 148 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: are looking for. They are gonna automatically come towards them 149 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: just because there's nobody else. 150 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: And I have a d behind my name, Quinland. 151 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: And where this comes from, where this comes from is 152 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: a very large hubris in the Democratic Party thinking that 153 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: you know what all we got to do is show up, 154 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: count some issues, say that we're the best, say the 155 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: Republicans are the worst, and doctor West is going to 156 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: be able to articulate what she does very well. 157 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: What she does very. 158 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: Well to folks that are looking for some version of 159 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: change within that community. Right. So, I mean, you know, 160 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 3: to to my friends who are very supporative of the 161 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: Democratic Party, to my friends who are working hard as 162 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: hell to get the Democratic Party to do more things 163 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: for black folks, because there's a lot of folks that 164 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 3: are within the Democratic Party right now who are not sellouts, 165 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 3: who are literally trying to change the party from within. Right. 166 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's possible. I'm done trying. I've 167 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: stopped trying that for a long time. I much rather 168 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: do what Tesla's doing doing, and well a lot of 169 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: my friends are doing, and what I've done. 170 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Myself in the past. 171 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: That's either run for office or make service as somebody 172 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: else wins, to whatever means necessary to. 173 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: Make sure that they have the proper platform. 174 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 3: Right. But to my to my friends who are within 175 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: the Democratic Party, you better start talking to these folks 176 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: about what kind of agenda that comes out of the 177 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: comes out of the current administration, if there ever. 178 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: Is going to be one for black votes. 179 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: Because the conversation is going to happen this time, and 180 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you know there's a lot of black votes. 181 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 3: There's a lot of white folks that are in a 182 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: Democratic party who look at us like a joke, and 183 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: which everyone talks about a win number and at fifty 184 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: plus one percent that we need, I mean fifty percent 185 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: plus one vote that we need that you need to 186 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: actually win an election, they don't even target. 187 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: Us, right, You're not even in the equation. 188 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: It's like you're not even You're not even a number 189 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: when they come up. Right. 190 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: That's why it's kind of like the woman in the 191 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: club that thinks she all of that and ain't nobody 192 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: even looking at her, and she's sitting up talking to 193 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: hear girl, They they don't. They don't approach me because 194 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: they know I'm all of that, girl. They just ain't 195 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: even looking at you. That's why I want people to understand, 196 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: like what your leverage it is not. You're not even 197 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: in the number. And I'm not saying that to to 198 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: this anybody. I just want you guys to know like 199 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: how to reorganize your power. And the first thing, I'm 200 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: not even gonna say reorganized because you're not even organized. 201 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: You got to. 202 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Organize it first, and you cannot organize by just talking 203 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: to Twitter spaces all day. 204 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: That's not organizing guys. 205 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: Now, Marcus, I want to I want you to go 206 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: a little bit further because I don't want it to 207 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: go over their head when you said he's gonna take 208 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: those marginalized voters, because I want to make sure that 209 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: we're on the same page with that. When I say 210 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: he's taking he's not taking voters from Biden. People that 211 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: support Wes are not supporting Biden. What I when I 212 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: say take marginalized voters, I'm talking about he's going to 213 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: be able to engage those who say, you know what, 214 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: I ain't with. 215 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: None of this, but I'm a rock with Uh. 216 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: I'm a rock with doctor West, and he's gonna be 217 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: able to empower them to be organized, not necessarily taking 218 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: something from Biden. Because people that support Wes are not 219 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: biting supporters, They're not even the same at all. 220 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: Well, no, I agree with that. 221 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: But what I'm going back to is that fifty plus one, 222 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: fifty plus one plus one vote, doctor West. 223 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: You compete for that one vote, oh for sure, but 224 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: not but not on the right. 225 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: But let's let's be clear, though, because I want to 226 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: make sure we talking the same thing on the presidential 227 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: level if hete when we say compete or get to 228 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: different things because he's running on a third he's running 229 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: on a third party ticket, and you I agree, we 230 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: gotta be careful with our words because. 231 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: They'll take this. 232 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: Here's what I mean. 233 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got, because I don't want you use campaign 234 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: jargon and I you know, competing me running in a 235 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 2: race on a track field, I can run and make 236 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: you run harder. That's what you're supposed to do. Make 237 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: the candidate run harder, but it doesn't mean I'm going 238 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: to win the race. And I want to make sure 239 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: they know the difference. So it's plain, go into detail, 240 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: but we don't want to buy to be confused. 241 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: Here here's here's basically, but here's basically what I'm saying. 242 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 3: When it comes down to it, at the end of 243 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: the day, doctor doctor West's runners is very simple and 244 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 3: you're we're not even a part of the equation. You 245 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: gotta understand how much money that these. 246 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: People allocate to campaigns, and. 247 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: That means that when at the beginning of a campaign, 248 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: the Body administration, even the Burni administration. 249 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Tesla, you just think I 250 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: got all. 251 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: Kinds of respect when I said, we got somebody, We 252 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 3: got somebody from our department going up to Michigan. 253 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: Of course I would, Hey, you know, I was there 254 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: listening to you scream and yell at the white boys. 255 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: They didn't even want. 256 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: Us to go up there. 257 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: They want because when you send, when you have, when 258 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: you target black people in any kind of campaign, that 259 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: means a certain amount of resources that we're going to 260 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: go to the white people, now go to black people. 261 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 2: Hold on, let's pause right there, because I want to 262 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: make sure that didn't go over their head because on Instagram, 263 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: you know, they love somebody saying her, oh yeah, Bernie 264 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Sanders was the best camp. 265 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: I want to make sure they know who they're talking to. 266 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: So you're talking to Marcus Forrell, who you're listening to 267 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: right now, who was the first African American outreach director. 268 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: He was in charge of getting all of the black 269 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: people on Bernie Sanders' campaign in twenty fifteen, and all 270 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: of the black sarrogans that you know and love, the 271 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: Sean Kings, the Cordnell West a Nina turned to kill 272 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: a mike. 273 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: So he's speaking from actually doing it. 274 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: So, but those of y'all to think, you know, you're 275 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: Saint Bernard is the best thing since sliced bread. Marcus 276 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: is the one that literally had to fight these people 277 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: to get them to do anything they had to do 278 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: with black voters. And that's why I stay on the 279 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: ass NonStop because I know what went on behind the scenes. 280 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: So even your beloved Bernard, it's always a fight when 281 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: it comes to resources that are spent on black campaigns. 282 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 2: And yes, the Biden administration as well Democrats across the 283 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: board damn show on the Republican side, but we just 284 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: want to make sure it's clear that across the board, 285 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: when you actually work on these campaigns, I ain't talking 286 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: about talking and guessing and coming up with some conspiracies. 287 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: When you actually work on these campaigns, it's a real 288 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: fight to get them to off the black media, to 289 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: get them to spend money, to get them to get 290 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: damn pamps. 291 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: We just literally just had to go on our own. 292 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: And it don't feel good when you got to go 293 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: on your own and get people to fight and believe 294 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: in a candidate that you know really don't rock with 295 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: you the way you should, but you're trying to do 296 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: the best for your people. Continue, Marcus, I want to 297 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: make sure they know who. 298 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: You want Repeter to pay Paul Man, Right, I had, 299 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: I had folks staying black folks were in all of us. 300 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: We're in South Carolina. Meanwhile, I'm sitting everybody around the 301 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: country to other places where black voters work. Right here, Well, 302 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: we need to do some kind of engagement and we 303 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: need to do some kind of stuff that compete with 304 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: with with with Hillary Clinton at the time. Right. 305 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: And if you just think that doesn't. 306 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: Happen, almost every single campaign starts off with the how 307 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: can we win this without black people? 308 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: M M, that's right. 309 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: This is this is literally. 310 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: They might not say that. They might not they. 311 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: Might not say that, and like on paper, they might 312 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: not say that in public, but they damn sure say 313 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: can we win with our base? Can we win with 314 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: just the white Democrats? And then they move on to 315 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: black Democrats. I mean, then they move Latino Democrats, and 316 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: then they move finally they. 317 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: Will get down. Nowadays they go for white. 318 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: People to Latino folks, specifically in the South, specifically in Florida, 319 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: specifically in Arizona. 320 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: And Biden said it, and Biden said it on record, 321 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: but go ahead. 322 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: Right, they moved, they moved up. 323 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: That's where the money goes first, and then finally they say, well, 324 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: how can we do it with black folks? And instead 325 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: of engaging black people with a true campaign of door knockers, 326 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: paying field staff male the same things they do for 327 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: other communities. 328 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: You know what they do. They go get us thererogate. 329 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: They go get some famous negro, they pull them out 330 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: of nowhere and they say, hey, all you gotta do 331 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: is make the statement, and all the niggers they'll love you. Yep. 332 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: So so that counter act that you have to have 333 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: people on doors, and you have to have a better message. 334 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: And not only do you need those two things. Again 335 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: going back to popping my collar, this is not really 336 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: popping my collar. 337 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: Guys. I'm being for real because I don't. 338 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: I also want to say for those of y'all to 339 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: use excuses like because Marcus is saying, what he's saying 340 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: is right, you gotta have the money, you gotta have this, 341 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: you gotta have that. But what we were able to 342 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: do with our team, we didn't have none of that. 343 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: We had hustle. It was called damn hustle. I dropped 344 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: my black ass down in Flint and went to the 345 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: damn barbershops, went to the clubs went to places that 346 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: they don't go, the people that they don't talk to, 347 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: and I had to maneuver from. 348 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: The outside in. Are you I agree? 349 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: Man? 350 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: Listen, So some of y'all just don't have no hustle, Like, 351 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: let's just call it what it is. You don't have 352 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: no hustle. You can't get nobody to believe in y'a 353 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: always the money? Well what about when it ain't the 354 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: money though? What about when it's just you don't know 355 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: how to get nobody to believe in you because you 356 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: don't know you don't know how to get get nobody 357 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: believe in your message. That's just the bottom line. That's 358 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: why I'm so hard, nahim oh. But the people, no, no, no, no, no, no. 359 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: Something may't add up. 360 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: If you can't get one hundred people to come for 361 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: you and you done ran more than once, something's wrong 362 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: with that. Because the ward is actually very small that 363 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: I'm talking about two churches and a nursing home. 364 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: At that point, you can't get the nursing off, but 365 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: fifty people in the nursing home can't show up for you. 366 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: That's a problem. Gods, I'm telling you that something wrong 367 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: with the ground. 368 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: Game. 369 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, if you're if you're influencers, if you if 370 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: you can get one person, if you can you can 371 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 3: get one person and really pretty much have a cheap 372 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: field game if you know how to target the one influencer, 373 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 3: the three influencers, the eight influencers of that district, the 374 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: twenty influencers of that city, the fifty influencers of that state, 375 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: the ninety influencers of that region. Right, if you get 376 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: one person to get them on your side and do 377 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: the work for you, trust and believe your volunteer, your 378 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 3: volunteer field, shit are going to get filled up. Might 379 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: e quit? Right? 380 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: And and or again. 381 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: I gotta give you the other side of it though, 382 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: because candidates will say I gotta pay people, I gotta 383 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: get people to pay again, that is a red flag 384 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: to me all the time. Yes you want to pay people, 385 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: Yes you don't want to use people. But again I'm 386 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: telling you, based off what I know at three hundred 387 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: volunteers that did shit for fifty thousand hours for the year, 388 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: if you can't get people to buy into your message, 389 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: that tells me, as a candidate, you're not spending enough 390 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: time in. 391 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: Your Community's correct. That's the bottom. 392 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: Line, because two or three people should ride with you 393 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: no matter what. 394 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: And you don't need a whole lot of people. It 395 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: only takes two or three. 396 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: Commissioner, he'll knocked on doors by her damn self. So 397 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: what is this big volunteer army you're talking about? If 398 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: you are hustling from date from the morning till night 399 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: like you should. 400 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: What is this big volunteer field y'all talking about? Y'all 401 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: got that. I don't work with too many candidates, y'all. 402 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: I know better. I know better. 403 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: Hey, if your win number three thousands, If your win 404 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 3: number it's three thousand state Representativecy. Your win number is 405 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: seven thousand for a state Representativecy. If you wanted that enough, 406 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: you can knock on all seven thousands of those doors. 407 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: That's it, you you, that's it. Like so this so this. 408 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: Idea, Okay, go ahead? Sorry, yeah, you gotta go because 409 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: you getting some good information. People on Instagram really are 410 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: getting enlightened by this information. Yeah. 411 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: So here's here's the thing. Right, no matter how you. 412 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: Feel about doctor West that you know, I will say 413 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: this publicly, the People's Party is problematic. Yeah, and if 414 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: and if that's not related back to the powers that be, 415 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 3: and I will text doctor West deep myself, right, like 416 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 3: the party that the little pack and it's not really 417 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: a party. 418 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: It's a pack, right, it's a pat that's behind them. 419 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: It's not a party. Therefore, they still need to get 420 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: on all fifty of these states ballots as a party 421 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 3: running through some and some kinds of machinery here here, 422 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: that's civics one on one. They have to be some 423 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: version of a party and quite fire as their party 424 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 3: to actually run him in all these dates. Unless he's 425 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: doing that, he's just actually talking and no smoke. And 426 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: you already know the Democratic Party doesn't plan on uh 427 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: debating anybody and putting anybody on the platform in the 428 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 3: general election to the Republican step up, whoever that Republican is. 429 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: I say this right here. I'll leave it very very 430 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: simple when it comes down to Dot the West. Listen, 431 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: he is a He is an animal that the Democratic 432 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: Party themselves made from their humors from not necessarily taking 433 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: black issues seriously. And you can say whatever you want, 434 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: you can say, we can think whatever you want. If 435 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: you're an establishment for the black coat. Black folks want 436 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: too much to get that up. We our communities have 437 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: not changed. He was just talking to people at a 438 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: very high level and got ice out because he was 439 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: doing that at inappropriate times. But it's never any appropriate 440 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: time for justice. Thank you very much, man. 441 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, and I'm not a again. I feel 442 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: like if somebody's going to be a disruptive candidate, I 443 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: would rather than run on a black agenda. 444 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: And I know the People's Party is. 445 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: You know that everybody for all and nothing wrong with that, 446 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: But again, if you already don't have a shot and 447 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: held me personally, I love doctor West, I adore him, 448 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: but I would much rather him run on a black 449 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: agenda because again you might as well, we might as 450 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: well go for it all. 451 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: Let him this comment. 452 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: I want to address this because somebody in the thing said, 453 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: who is not safe to knock on doors nowadays? I 454 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: hope you're here, sis, Are you still here? Put a 455 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: five in the chat Instagram? You're here because what I'm 456 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: about to say is going to hurt some feelings. But 457 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: you need to know this if you ain't with on 458 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: I know a lot of y'all don't like Attorney Crump, 459 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: but on Netflix, if you go to and you watch 460 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: Sybil and you fast forward to the twenty minute mark. 461 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: You'll hear my speech. And I said, I'm willing to 462 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: die for the calls. So if you are too afraid 463 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: to die for the call, you ain't ready for this 464 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: level of leadership. Let me go ahead and say it 465 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: to those of y'all that don't want to be dopsed. 466 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: And I don't want my name out there, and I 467 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: don't want my dress out there, and I don't want 468 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: nobody knowing who I am, and I want to sit 469 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: in this comfortable place and sit here behind this wall, 470 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: and sit here with an avatar and have a fake name. 471 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: It's levels to this shit. 472 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: If you're not willing to die for the cause, you're 473 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: not a leader for this time in this place, and 474 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: we need you to do something else. I know y'all 475 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: don't want to hear it, but that's the truth. If 476 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 2: you about scary business, if you with that scary business, baby, 477 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 2: you ain't ready for this level of leadership. 478 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: See. 479 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: I was in the military, and when I decided to 480 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: go to the military, I raised my hand and said, 481 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: I want to be an M sixty gunner. Well why, Teslam, 482 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: you could just be a nurse, you could just be 483 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: an admin. Well, I don't want to play it safe, 484 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: because if I'm gonna go to the military, I might 485 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: as well go for it all. I might as well 486 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: go ahead and sing the champ where they say, Mama, 487 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: if you send me home, don't worry about it. I 488 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: fought my best, just putting my wings on my chest. See, 489 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: there's different levels of there's different levels to this. And 490 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: y'all get so confused because y'all be sitting up here 491 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: listening to people on these Instagram and these Twitter spaces 492 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: and yelling and hollering and spitting all on the damn phone, 493 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: and you look at that as power. That ain't power 494 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: until you're willing to doc your damn self and be 495 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: willing to die for the calls. Well, everybody can't do that, Tesla. 496 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: Everybody don't want to do that. Everybody don't want. 497 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: To lose their job. 498 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: Where then you don't need to be debating me, because 499 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: I don't lost several of them behind this. So if 500 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 2: you don't want to do what I'm willing to do, 501 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: then that means you need to go back up to 502 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: the stage and go talk to one of your peers. 503 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 2: See that's the difference. That's the difference ain't nobody challenging 504 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: you like that in that way. Because see the thing 505 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: about this social media thing is everybody get a microphone. 506 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: So y'all think everybody, even Steven, I'm rea to let 507 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 2: you know, everybody ain't even the liberals lie to you. 508 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: Everybody ain't even everybody ain't put in the same sweat equity. 509 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 2: Everybody don't need a microphone, all the same opinions. It's 510 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: like assholes, Well you need to go tell that to somebody. 511 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: I'm old school mama. Only people speaking in this house 512 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: people to pay the bills. Damn your opinion. That's what's 513 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 2: wrong with this new era. I can't even say generation 514 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: because the old people, the forty year olds, people my 515 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: age done got into this bullshit of everybody get an opinion. 516 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: No, you don't. 517 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: You sit at the kiddy table till it's time for dinner. 518 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: I'll call you in when it's time for dinner. You 519 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 2: don't get to just raise your hand and tell me 520 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: how to cook and what not to cook. And you 521 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: ain't paid for nothing. You ain't cooking nothing. You ain't 522 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: never cooked. And besides being in this Twitter space, what 523 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: y'all call cooking. You don't get to tell me nothing 524 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: if you ain't put in the work. That's how I 525 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: work in real life. To shout out to the Republicans 526 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: in the building as the Conservatives and the conservative and 527 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: building Jay. They don't give a shit about no participation trophy. 528 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: Just sitting up talking on Instagram and Twitter's just a 529 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: participation trophy. If you're not putting in the numbers, if 530 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: you're not willing to put your name on the ballot, 531 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: you're not willing to die for the calls. If you're 532 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: not willing to doc your damnself, ain'tybody got to go 533 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: looking for me. I'm docting my damn self. You don't 534 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: want to get docs. Markets will tell you he was 535 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: hesitant when he was like, man, we got to speak up. 536 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: I was the first black staffer to spoke up against Bernard. 537 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: Since then, it's been about twenty of them, all of 538 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: them speak up. See leadership. That's how leadership work. That's 539 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: how leadership worked. Since whoever said that on Instagram? When 540 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: one person stand up and raise up, they all start 541 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: standing up with them. If it's safe to TASLM to 542 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: do it, if it's safe for the female, the only 543 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: one on the team, by the way, they had a kid. 544 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: Then the men folks started speaking up, Well, damn, if 545 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: she can do it with a kid, surely I can. 546 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: That's what leadership do. 547 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: Leaders see people follow leaders, But some of y'all following 548 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: people would talk and it got to be the action. 549 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: It's a difference. The result is producing the action. Everybody 550 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: don't want to lose their job. Oh okay, then well 551 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: if you wasn't willing to lose your job like I did, 552 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: and go uber when I challenged Bernie Sanders and one 553 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: by the way, when I sued him, then me and 554 00:25:54,200 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: you ain't the same. And that ain't bragging. That's just 555 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: telling you what it is. I have some other requests, 556 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: but unfortunately I would love to add you, but I 557 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: don't know who you are. And I'm and again I'm 558 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 2: not saying this to be mean, but I guys, I 559 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: just I don't do the I just can't do the acronyms. 560 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: You know, commando, negro, black knight, that's asking to speak. 561 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: I just can't do it. 562 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: Love, If you want to put your question down in 563 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: the saying I can't do it, because I don't. I'm 564 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: not into this space enough to know, Like who is 565 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: who and who's the troll? And who ain't control and 566 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: I can't do it. I like docs on docs crime. 567 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: I like you know, names and faces and you know 568 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: shit like that, because all my shit out there. So 569 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 2: I like to talk to people that, you know. If 570 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: Sonny Johnson, if you've got something to say, come on 571 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: to it because I know that's Sonny Johnson's real name. 572 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: Torn if you got something to say, come on up 573 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: because I know that's your real name. I just like 574 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: real names, and it ain't no disrespect y'all. But I 575 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: just like docs on docs. I like dots on docs crime. 576 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: I just like dots on docs crime. I have a 577 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: real hard time and maybe you know, maybe it was 578 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: the gangsters I grew up with. I used to My 579 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: first boyfriend was from Anglewood, California, and when he would 580 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: go do drive bys. I know a lot of y'all. 581 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: You know, y'all gonna judge me for this, But when 582 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: he used to go do drive bys, he would go 583 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: do drive bys and tell everybody, my name is E. M. F. T. 584 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: He would actually do the drive by and say his name, 585 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: and people would always say, why are you saying your name? 586 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 3: Man? 587 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: You shouldn't say your name, he said, But I want 588 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: the crips to know that I did it. So I 589 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: came up from that type of mentality, you know, where 590 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: you go and bang on somebody and you let them 591 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: know who you are so they can come find you, 592 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 2: and then you just be standing there waiting. So I 593 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 2: just come from that type of mentality. So I just 594 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: I just can't talk. And I damn show can't call 595 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: y'all body's names. You know, when y'all be saying brother 596 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: Commando and brother A two FA and you know, brother 597 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: hot Dog, you can speak now and all that. I 598 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: just can't do it, guys. And I don't mean no disrespect. 599 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: I just can't do it, cause it ain't really ain't fair. 600 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: It's not fair that you get to know everything about 601 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: me and I don't getting nothing about you. You, and 602 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: then you get to come up here and you know, 603 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: give me all your theories about what we need to 604 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 2: be doing and how we need to be doing it, 605 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: and then when I say, well, when have you done it? Well, 606 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: that ain't the point. I read a book that just 607 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: don't land well with me. I kind of like, you know, 608 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: I like the receipts now Marcel and all fairness, he 609 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: put Commando brother whatever. 610 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: Now you're putting the thumbs down. It's okay, babe, you 611 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: can put the thumbs down. I'm totally fine with it. Marcell. 612 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: If you want to have something to say, you're You're 613 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: welcome to because I obviously used you as a reference 614 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: several times, and I think it's only fair, you know, 615 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: for you to have something to say back. I would 616 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: love to bring you up our uniposition to talk, just 617 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: because since I did mention your name, brother Commando is 618 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: giving me a thumbs down. And that's that's fine, honey. 619 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: You can get the thumbs down, you know, all day. 620 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: My receipts are my receipts. But I just it's hard 621 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: for me to listen to what people have to say 622 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: without knowing, you know, if they're actually in the game. 623 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: That's kind of like Michael Jordan turned around and ask 624 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: some people in the stands, Hey, y'all, y'all think I 625 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 2: should go up for the alley oop, or y'all think 626 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: I should dunk, or you know, I just I just 627 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: can't do it, not when I'm talking about politics, because 628 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: this information is too important and I don't want anybody 629 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: to be confused. 630 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: With y'all bright ideas. 631 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: So but before I get out of here, I am 632 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: gonna send Marcel or Mike, just because again I did 633 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: reference you so many times, and I don't want, you know, 634 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: anybody to think I was showing I was shading him 635 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: at all. It's just y'all not running nobody else. So 636 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: that's the only candidate that I can refer to. And 637 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: since y'all got a lot of respect for Marcel, I 638 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: gotta you know, that's the only candidate y'all keep talking about, 639 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: so I gotta refer to Marcel. And I really would 640 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: like Marcel. Oh he said he's not in a position 641 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: to speak. I really, I really, you know, want Marcel 642 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: to either, you know, stop worrying about y'all being so 643 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: informed all day and get more people in his district 644 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: behind them, or if he's gonna talk to y'all all day, 645 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: then y'all need to start doing some volunteer call time. 646 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: You can do that from anywhere, from anywhere. You can 647 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: make calls on behalf of Marcel, or you can text 648 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: on behalf of Marcel from anywhere. And I know Marcel 649 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: said where everybody said they ain't got time, they got 650 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: time because they sitting in this Twitter space all day cooking, 651 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: as y'all call it. 652 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: That's all they. 653 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: Do is cook, cook, cook, cook cook. All they do 654 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: is land planes up and down. It's a whole ffa 655 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: service in this bitch. Planes up and planes down and 656 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: planes all around. And oh I'm cooking now, and mute 657 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: the mic and put the mic down, and put the 658 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: mic up, and on the stage and off the stage 659 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: and left stage and right stage. 660 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: So they got plenty time to run a dawn. 661 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: Run a call a call campaign for Marcel. I know, 662 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: y'all give the money, that's a great thing, but who 663 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: is calling voters from Marcel today? 664 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: Marcel got to. 665 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: Take that money and go down and buy a list 666 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: and then y'all need to start doing the calls. That's 667 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: my suggestion. And it's a simple script. Where everybody ain't 668 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: comfortable doing that. Well, here you are because they land 669 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: planes on here all day. Ain't nobody looking at you 670 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: on the phone. So all y'all do is get a script. Hey, 671 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: this is Sister five nine. You want to you can 672 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: even use your Twitter name. This is brother Commando. I'm 673 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: calling on behalf of Marcel Dixon. He's running for districts 674 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: such and such that you know he supports reparations. 675 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: Da da da da da da da Get busy, Get busy. 676 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: If you like what you heard on Straight Shot No Chaser, 677 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: please subscribe and drop a five star review and tell 678 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: a friend. Straight Shot No Chaser is a production of 679 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: the Black Effect podcast Network in iHeartRadio on TESZLM. Figure 680 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: out and I'd like to thank our producer editor mixer 681 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: Dwayne Crawford and our executive producer Charlotta Magne to God. 682 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 683 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts.