1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show, also known as Clay and Buck. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: To many of you across this great lent the biggest 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: story in the country by far, as I'm sure many 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: of you know if you were tuning in online or 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: on TV or anything over the weekend opening a newspaper, 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: it is another fatal shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota, involving immigrations 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: and customs enforcement. We will give you the details of this. Minnesota. 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: Minneapolis has become the front line, the battle front when 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: it comes to the Trump administration's immigration enforcement efforts. There 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: is no other policy initiative or action that is anywhere 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: near as contentious right now, and I would argue central 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: to the success or failure of the second Trump administration. 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: There you just told me that. Moments ago, President Trump 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: shared that he had called Tim Walls. Why didn't tell 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: us what? The Trump? 17 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: What? 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: The Trump? 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: What? 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: The President? Also, the Trump is telling everybody about that 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: phone call. Just a few minutes ago, President Trump posted 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: as follows, Governor Tim Walls called me with the request 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: to work together with respect to Minnesota. It was a 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: very good call and we actually seem to be on 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: a similar wavelength. I told Governor Walls that I would 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: have Tom Homan call him and that what we are 27 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: looking for are any and all criminals that they have 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: in their possession. The Governor very respectfully understood that, and 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: I will be speaking to him in the near future. 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: He was happy that Tom Holman was going to Minnesota, 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: and so am I. We have had such tremendous success 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Memphis, Tennessee, and New Orleans, Louisiana 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: and virtually every other place that we have touched, and 34 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: even in Minnesota, crime is way down. And even in 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: Minnesota crime is way down. But both Governor Walls and 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: I want to make it better President Donald J. Trump, 37 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: So that buck has come out in the last ten 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes seems to me that both Walls and 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: Trump are trying to dial back the temperature a bit. 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: I think is an easy way to read pretty transparently, 41 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: that statement and the phone call that they just had, well, 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: that's certainly a different direction than Walls was heading in 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: when he openly compared the Ice enforcement operations to the 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: Nazi Gestapo hunting down Jewish men, women and children in 45 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: the Netherlands. For example. Here he is talking about how 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: we've all read An Frank. This has cut one Someone's 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: going to run an An Frank's story about Minnesota. 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 3: We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their houses, 49 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: afraid to go outside. Many of us grew up reading 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 3: that story of Ann Frank. Somebody's going to write that 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: children's story about Minnesota. And there's one person who can 52 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: end this now, and I'll go back to it again. 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: Please show some decency, pull these folks out, reset this situation, 54 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: and allow us to do the job that the Attorney 55 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: General myself were elected to do, protect the people of 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: Minnesota and carry out the laws of Minnesota. 57 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to carry out the laws because he 58 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: doesn't want federal law enforcement to do their job. He's 59 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: still in America. Minneapolis, despite what they may think, very 60 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: much falls under the jurisdiction of the United States federal government. 61 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Clay comparing this to bringing up Anne Frank in this 62 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: context is pretty pretty horrific, reckless. But I think that 63 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: the slander is the point. I think that inflaming this 64 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: is exactly the idea. Look, we need to dive into 65 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: the specifics on this, and I'm actually curious for people 66 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: out there that have worked in law enforcement, that have 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: analyzed these videos and everything else. But yeah, the and 68 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: Frank analogy is absurd. The third day of the Battle 69 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: of Gettysburg analysis from Tim Walls was awful. This is 70 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: not a smart man who certainly is not very able 71 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: to interact I think in a dynamic, ever changing situation 72 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: in an intelligent way. But let's go into yeah, to 73 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: take us through the play by play video here in 74 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: the situation. Yeah, So, first of all, I hate to 75 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: be right, but you and I were entirely correct about this. 76 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: The intent when you are showing up in the middle 77 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: of ICE operations is to provoke, is to in some 78 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: way create these situations, these shootings, these violent interactions, and 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: people out there say, no, these are peaceful protesters. There's 80 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: no intent. Back in July, Axios published a story that 81 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: said the goal was to get people shot and try 82 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: to create momentum politically against ICE itself. And so this individual, 83 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: this thirty seven year old looking at the video and 84 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: again eight hundred and two two two eight eight two, 85 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in casual observers. People who have been 86 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: involved in shooting investigations and everything else. I watch this thing, Buck, 87 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure as you did many many different times from 88 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: a variety of different angles. This guy was armed. What 89 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: appears to happen to me is when he is disarmed, 90 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: it looks to me like his weapon is then discharged 91 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: in some form or fashion, and then there is a 92 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: panic u and that this individual is shot. I think 93 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: it's a tragic accident. And again I think it's a 94 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: direct result of both individuals engaging in behavior, all of 95 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: these protesters who are trying to antagonize and create violent situations, 96 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: violent interactions, uh and the ICE agents who are on 97 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: edge because they're constantly being accosted by all of these protesters. 98 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: And so unfortunately, this is the intent, this is the goal. 99 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: This isn't a full on accident. This is what they want. 100 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: They want violent confrontations. And much like the Renee Good 101 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: situation and now this situation, it would have never occurred 102 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: if protesters hadn't been showing up trying to obstruct ICE 103 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: agents from being able to do their jobs. Now, I 104 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: think there should be a full investigation into the shooting 105 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: to figure out whether or not it was a legally 106 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: authorized shooting. I think ICE, to be fair, the statement 107 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: that this guy was a domestic terrorist or he was 108 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: trying to mow down people, unless they have additional evidence, 109 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: and maybe they do, I haven't seen anything to suggest 110 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: that that is true. I don't think it's helpful to 111 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: get way out narratively in advance of things that you 112 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: can't prove. If I were, and I don't know if 113 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: you would sign off on this or not, Buck, but 114 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: if I were, I said this, and I've said it 115 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: for a long time. If I were advising my own kids, 116 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: there's a difference between a right that you have and 117 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: something that aids and increases risk. If I were advising 118 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: my own kids and they were going to protest, I 119 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: would say, don't take a weapon. You may have the 120 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: right to have a weapon, but I think if this 121 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: guy hadn't been armed on that day, I don't think 122 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: he would have been shot. I think the idea of 123 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: taking the weapon to a protest is a poor choice 124 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: in my opinion when it comes to safety. And I'm 125 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: not saying it shouldn't be legal. I'm saying I think 126 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: it aided in this situation in the intensity of the 127 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: response because they found the gun, and I think that 128 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: led even more to them believing they were in under peril. 129 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, I could every time I went out 130 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: to walk the dog here in my neighborhood legally now 131 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: in Florida carry my short barrel ar with suppressor on 132 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: it and slinging around my shoulder. I could. Doesn't mean 133 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: it's a good idea, right, I mean, you know, it's 134 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: one thing if I'm going to the range, or it's 135 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: one thing if I'm defending myself or something. But I 136 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: mean if you're just doing it to do it. I 137 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: know there's open carry advocates out there are gonna get 138 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: mad saying this, but because people don't do it around here, 139 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of hunting in Miami Beach. Okay, 140 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: it's not a good Again. I'm not saying it should 141 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: be illegal or legal or anything else. I'm just saying 142 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: it's not a good idea and carrying a firearm into 143 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: a situation where and this is where really I've been 144 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: saying this, Clay, I put this on X. These are 145 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: sabotage operations. These are not protests. They're not trying to 146 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: convince the Ice officers or convince the American people via 147 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: video of them shouting in the cold that these things 148 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: that are going on about they're trying to stop them 149 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: from happening. They're trying to make it harder for law 150 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: enforcement to do their jobs. Now, whether cops are arresting 151 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: some you know maniac on the street who's shouting nonsense, 152 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: or they're engaged in ice enforcement operations, they have a 153 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: lawful right to be able to conduct their duty without 154 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: a mob forming right around them, without people, you know, 155 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: getting in their face and shouting at them while they're 156 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: doing their job. Like, you can't prevent people from enforcing 157 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: the law because you don't like the law. And that's 158 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: exactly what's going on here. And so if you're going 159 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: to carry a firearm into a sabotage operation, you are 160 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: being a moron. It was a very stupid thing to do. 161 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: And if you're engaged in any kind of illegal activity, 162 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: and I would argue that obstructing law enforcement, well, I 163 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: mean it is illegal, but I'm saying it seems to 164 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: me that that was the intent here. Remember, initially people 165 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: were saying, oh, you'd like nothing that they always there's 166 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: always the initial report. It just happened to be passing through. No, 167 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: he was part of this anti ice operation and anytime 168 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: you are carrying a firearm on you, firearm on you 169 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: and you're dealing with law enforcement, Clay, there's height intention. 170 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: I could tell you any concealed carr class worth that salt. 171 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: They'll tell you. You know, when you are get pulled over 172 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: and you have a gun, even if it's totally legal, 173 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: and if you're a concealed carried perman holder, or even 174 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: if you don't need to have a concealed carried perman 175 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: in your state, you want to be very calm and 176 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: very easy and forthright with the officer about what's going on. 177 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: Because the speed the distance between I have a gun 178 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: on my hip or in my in my jacket or 179 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, and I'm shooting at somebody is 180 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: about a second. Maybe two seconds is a pretty good 181 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's slow for like somebody who's really preparing. 182 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: But the point is it's a very quick situation and 183 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: cops have to worry about this stuff. Remember that guy 184 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: that got pulled over, he had been like an Afghan 185 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: interpreter in Afghanistan. There's video of this, and the cops 186 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: pulled him over. It went from this guy being belligerent 187 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: to pulling his gun out shooting a shooting officer or 188 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: a number I think he killed the officer, shooting him 189 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: a number of times at point plank range in a second. Yeah, so, yeah, 190 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: you're going to carry a pistol. Why does he have 191 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: a pistol on him to go into this situation? What 192 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: is the point to go harass law enforcement with a 193 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: gun on you? I mean, you know, it's just it's 194 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: so it's so belligerent and stupid. And I'm sorry this 195 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: guy is dead. He did, you know, from everything we've 196 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: seen so far, he certainly didn't deserve to lose his 197 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: life in this process, but he made some very bad decisions. 198 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: Now it is possible that law enforcement here may have 199 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: messed up. It's possible. I've seen this video, looks like 200 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: there's a discharge. If there's a discharge, and people are 201 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: even saying maybe the pistol discharge without And now I'm 202 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: not going to get into pistol brands here. And now 203 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: you're a gun guy, how common do you think the 204 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: gun just discharges on its own and an ad an 205 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: accidental discharge on its own from a gun that hasn't 206 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: been dropped, it's in the guy's hand at the time. 207 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: That it have discharge. This is what I'm saying, doesn't happen, basically, 208 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Now there are Now this is a whole 209 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: other thing. Please do not I do not take it. 210 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: I do not have and I don't want. It's funny, 211 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: usually worried about like defaming people. I don't want to 212 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: defame a firearm's brand here. Well, this is ironic. After 213 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: your attack. You're a vicious attack on the old men 214 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: in their gun. Oh cold nineteen No, I mean old 215 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: men gun. That's fine, that's just Colt knows that nineteen 216 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: eleven is an old man gun. But you know that's fine. 217 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: You can like your old man gun or not. But 218 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: this is about a serious safety issue that is being 219 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: argued about. You know, and many of you know what 220 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It's a very very well known fire manufacturer. 221 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of people online, a lot 222 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: of people in the community, the firearms community two AA 223 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: folks who believe very strongly that that gun can go 224 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: off without and this is there are huge arguments about this. 225 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: And I do not have a I don't own that firearm. 226 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: I actually don't own any firearms made by that company. 227 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: And I don't take a position on it. I haven't 228 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: done the testing myself, but that is being brought into 229 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: this discussion too, because I believe at the check again, 230 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: I believe that the firearm involved here is made by 231 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: that company, but I'd have to make sure of that. Notice. 232 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm speaking very cryptically because I don't Clay. You watch 233 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: the videos. You watch these things usually and everyone goes, oh, 234 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: the gun just went off. Yeah, just went off because 235 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: somebody's finger got in the trigger and pulled. It is 236 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: what happened. They didn't realize it heat of the moment. 237 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: They didn't think they did, but that's what happened. That 238 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: is my concern here is that somebody, if I were 239 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: sort of going back based on the evidence, I think 240 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: that they found out the guy had a gun, they 241 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: yelled gun. Somehow the firearm gets discharged, and then in 242 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: the midst of the arrest, some of those guys panic 243 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: over the discharge. Again because they're all of their alert 244 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: sensitivities are on the utmost level given what they're dealing 245 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: with on a day to day basis. And unlike in 246 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: the Renee Good situation, where I watched it and I thought, Okay, 247 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: this guy immediately had peril for his life. And we 248 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: analyze the shooting and I feel confident that he's not 249 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: going to face real charges. I don't feel the same 250 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: way about this one based on just having looked at 251 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: the at the evidence so far. So we will break 252 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: all this down. Some of you out there are experts, 253 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: You have dealt in situations such as these. If you 254 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: are an expert, we would be curious to hear what 255 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: you have to say. Talk back or eight hundred and 256 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: two eight two eight. He was just to be clear, 257 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: he was carrying the gun that people say has a 258 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: history of this. So this clay, we could take a 259 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: lot A lot of people feel very passionately on this subject. 260 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: But he was carrying the gun that has this reputation. 261 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: And as we go to break I mean, here is 262 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: the big picture. I do think this is important. Texas 263 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: and Florida have had ten times the arrest from ice, 264 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: none of the protests. To your point, Buck, this is intentional. 265 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: This is an ad serial opposition and obstruction that is intentional. 266 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: And unfortunately this isn't a tragic accident. This is part 267 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: of the intent of what they are attempting to do 268 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: by opposing here and Ultimately, the question is how do 269 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: you get ten million illegals plus out of the country. 270 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: It's not going to be a pretty process. I mean, 271 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: I think that's the challenge. Front page online New York Times. 272 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: Right now, gold soares beyond five thousand dollars as global 273 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: tensions grow. I was just reading in this morning and 274 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: I came across that, my friend, buying gold makes sense. 275 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: Buying gold is a long term strategy for wealth preservation 276 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: and even increasing your wealth over time. And just look 277 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: at the value of gold over the last twenty years. 278 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: This long term play. This is not short quick stuff. 279 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Although I just bought some gold from Birch Gold Group, 280 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: it's already worth more than one I bought it. That's 281 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: the gold. The gold thesis continues to prove itself out. 282 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: Gold's up seven hundred percent of the last twenty years, 283 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: sixty percent last year, loan, and look what silver's doing. 284 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: By the way, you can get gold and silver from 285 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: Birch Gold Group until February first, this Sunday, if you 286 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: are a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold Group is 287 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: offering a rebate of up to ten thousand dollars on 288 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: qualifying purchases to claim eligibility and start that process. 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You ain't imagining it. 299 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 4: The world has gone insane. We claim your sanity with 300 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: Clay and Bund. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 301 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: or where wherever you get your podcast. 302 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Quick turn here. 303 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: But I want to acknowledge a lot of people out there, 304 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: many of you listening right now, are dealing with the 305 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: aftermath of this huge winter storm, including in Nashville. I 306 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: am fortunate we have power over two hundred thousand homes. 307 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: That's basically half of Nashville. Right now, Buck has no 308 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: power whatsoever. The interstate is shut down. A tractor trailer 309 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: just took out an overhead sign for the interstate. It 310 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: is basically icy, like I'm not seen in a generation. 311 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: Straight ice is what we got here. So I know 312 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people all over the country stay safe. 313 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: I know a lot of you are probably listening to 314 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: us right now on the radio to try to get informed. 315 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: So we'll keep you informed on all that too. Yes, 316 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: coming in with more here in just a second. Also, 317 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: is Tom Holman taking over in Minneapolis. Talk about it. 318 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: You know Puretalk's favorite national holiday. 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A 337 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: bit of a digression here, but I just learned from 338 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: Clay that the Patriots are in the Super Bowl. Go Pats. 339 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: Who knew, well, I guess everybody knew except for me probably. 340 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: I think that if you had power a lot of people, 341 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of people in the middle of a snowstorm, 342 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: I think most people were sitting around. You know, I 343 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: wish you asked who the quarterback for the Patriots was 344 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: in the commercial break. I really wish that I had 345 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: told you that Tom Brady came out of retirement and 346 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: had led them to see if you would have bought 347 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: in retrospect, Drake May of course, second year quarterback Patriots. 348 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: Patriots and the Seahawks will be in the super Bowl. 349 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: But I wish that I had said on air and 350 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: seen if Buck would buy along that Tom Brady had 351 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: come out of retirement and will be playing in the 352 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He did call the NFC Championship game for Fox, 353 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: But yes, Seahawks Patriots both pretty entertaining. The Denver game, 354 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: Buck was played second half basically in a blizzard, so 355 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: it was pretty fun to watch. And our prize picks 356 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: pick one. So we had a high scoring game between 357 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and Rams. So if you took Matt you Stafford, 358 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: and you took Sam Darnold to throw more than one 359 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: and a half touchdowns, then you won our prize picks 360 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: pick three to one, nearly payout. So there you go. 361 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm reading right right now, by the way Governor Walls's 362 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: office Now it's shifting. Gears has described the talk as 363 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: productive with Trump and says that Trump agreed to look 364 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: into reducing the number of federal agents. Uh, we will 365 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: see whether that's true or not. It seems to me, 366 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: Buck that there could be a trade here. Minnesota has 367 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: evidently been holding and not releasing some of the people 368 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: that the ICE is attempting to deport. It seems like 369 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: maybe if Minnesota would agree, hey, we'll hand over these 370 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: violent criminals, which, by the way, how is this crazy, 371 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: Like they're not unconstituted jumping. Yeah, they're not jumping at 372 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: the opportunity. Remember, we're not just talking about illegals. We're 373 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: talking to people who came this country illegally and then 374 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: prayed upon their fellow human beings here and committed crimes 375 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: against them. So they should be out. They should have 376 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: been out of here yesterday. They should have never been here. 377 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: And yet there's still this Democrat lunacy about the open 378 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: border stuff. Before we dive back into this and actually 379 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: want to get to a bunch of calls, I did 380 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: want to just take a moment here, Clay, because you 381 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: asked me about my weekend and I forgot to watch 382 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: the football. But I did watch Sinners after Carrie went 383 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: to bed on Friday, because I was just curious that, 384 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was at a trivia night on Thursday 385 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: down here at Mimi Beach. Carrie and I go to a 386 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: little trivia night at a restaurant. It's very fun. We 387 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: go with friends. Did we win, Yes, we won? Have 388 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: we won three of the four times we've gone, Yes, 389 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: we've won three of the four times. Am I maybe 390 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: something of a ringer and Trivia night? I don't know, 391 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: can neither confirm nor deny. But there was one question 392 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: I got wrong. 393 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: You know. 394 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: The question was Clay the most Tony awarded musical of 395 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: all time. I'm not a musical guy. I know nothing 396 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: about musicals too. I have two immediate guesses, which I 397 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: would have, Well, you got you, this is not nom 398 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: there are rules, you get one guess. What is your 399 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: one guess? I would go late miz not a bad guess. 400 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: It's Hamilton. Oh so right, exactly, that's my That's I 401 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: said wicked because I don't know anything. But uh but yeah, 402 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: I got nailed on that one. We needed Tim Wallace 403 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: for the show tunes Broadway help, but uh, it is Hamilton. 404 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: And I bring it up because I knew that Hamilton 405 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: was garbage before I saw it, just by reading about 406 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: it and understanding the premise. And then I actually sat 407 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: through and watched the whole thing. I watched it on 408 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: you YouTube. I didn't watch like in the theater, but 409 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: I you know, and it's terrible, Okay, Like I don't care. 410 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: I people can say I like it. You're wrong. It's bad. Uh, 411 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: it's just objectively the rap, the wrapping is bad. The 412 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: whole premise is absurd. It's it's it's trash. But it 413 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: get we all understand. We all get it right, we 414 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: all understand. It's like, oh, but this is like the 415 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: ultimate of like DEI and inclusiveness, Like we have a 416 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: new founding that is garbage. Sinners is like murder porn 417 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: of white people. It is horrible. It is horrifying. It 418 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: is through the whole thing. Uh yeah, yeah, I watch, 419 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean I was, I was very unhappy with it. 420 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: But there's like a whole scenehe're just mowing down all 421 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: these white people and there's just all this stuff. It's 422 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: all like the racial undertones that they put. It's it's like, 423 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: what is this? And it's not even good, It's not 424 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: it's not so whoever was they call it? You were 425 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: embarrassed yourself. It's you what you see it, you'll see. No, 426 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: it's worse than I thought, Clay and I thought it 427 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: was bad. Why am I talking about this? The most 428 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: Oscar nominated movie of all time? Really, more than The Godfather, 429 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: more than more than Brave Heart, more than you know, 430 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: name your favorite movie. The most is you know, like 431 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: all of the greatest movies that have ever existed in history, 432 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: it is. It is absolutely absording all were This thing 433 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: is like a cameo by Saint George Floyd, you just 434 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: like descend from the heavens. I mean, there's like all 435 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: the sort of racial stuff in this All the white 436 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: people are so bad and we need to murder all 437 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: these white people who are actually vampires by the way, 438 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: trying to take away the black people's being so cool, 439 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: Like they're so cool and the white people are bad. 440 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: It's horrible. It's a horrible movie, absolute trash, garbage of 441 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: the first Like I can't even believe that it got made, honestly, 442 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: and it's the most and it's really gross. Like the 443 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: whole premise is it's poorly made, poorly written, poorly acted, 444 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: and the whole message is really immoral and divisive and 445 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: bad and all we're talking about all the stuff going 446 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: on ice and they were about to get back into 447 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: that in a second. But you know, messaging matters and 448 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: narrative matters, and this movie is something that people should like. 449 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: It's something that should not have been put out there 450 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: because it is degenerous and it just makes our country. 451 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: It just makes everything worse. That's what I'm just saying. 452 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: It is literally one of the worst movies I've ever seen, 453 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: and the fact that it has gotten more Oscar nominations 454 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: and I will I will fight anybody. It is terrible time. 455 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: Oh they have one actor playing the twin brothers. Oh, 456 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: that's so clever. The whole thing it's just horrible, dude. 457 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I really, I cannot say it. I wish 458 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: I could curse, just so I could really express my 459 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: feelings about this movie. Most OSCAR nominated movie of all time, 460 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: because it's like this, you know, this this religion of 461 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: elevating the narrative of the white oppression, and you know, 462 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: they got to murder all these white people, and the 463 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: whole thing is crazy. It's horrible, it's racist, it's bad. 464 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: One of the worst movies I've ever seen. So I 465 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: waited till Currey went to sleep. I didn't make her 466 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: sit through it. It's not even a good vampire movie, 467 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: and I like vampire movies. I would like to be 468 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: able to tell you that I had a good movie review. 469 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: I watched, of course, the NFC and the AFC Championship games, 470 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: and then tried to watch the rip, which I actually 471 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: thought started off pretty well. I was probably fifteen or 472 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: twenty minutes into it, and then we had a power 473 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: issue in the house because we're in the middle of 474 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: the ice storm. So I'm gonna try to watch It's 475 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: on Netflix. It's the Matt Damon ben Affleck movie. First 476 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty minutes was solid. Hopefully we'll have full 477 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: power be able to watch it. All right, a lot 478 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: of people wanting to weigh in on the videos that 479 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: they have seen, and we should mention, by the way, 480 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: that there is a report that just came out that 481 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the officers were wearing body cameras and 482 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: that those footages are being reviewed, which might have better 483 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: idea of what happened. Then back on this for a second, 484 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: let's just say, let's just say that there was a 485 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: firearm discharged during this scuffle, not by an officer. If 486 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: you are in a like, in a scrum of people 487 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: and you know that you have somebody who's resisting arrash 488 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: and being a problem and a gun does go off, 489 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: your reaction to that is going to be very Now 490 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: you're gonna get really into the weeds here on like 491 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: what was seeing, what happened everything else, and that should happen, 492 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: there should be This is one where I'm saying, yes, absolutely, 493 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: like the full investigation thing that people call for sometimes Yes, 494 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: when they just want to delay what's so obvious. No, 495 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: this really needs a full investigation because it's not obvious 496 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: what happened right away. It was obvious with Renee Good 497 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: as soon as you saw the video. Random a guy 498 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: of the car can't do that. This one is not 499 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: as obvious. John in Syracuse, New York, former law enforcement officer, 500 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: what have you seen? Based on Again, we're trying to 501 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: analyze the videos. These are external, not the officer videos, 502 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: so we don't have their full perceptions. As Buck was 503 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: just laying out, but what stood out to you. 504 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: I'm still laughing about the Tim Walls on the show tunes, 505 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: But on a serious note. 506 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: Graham v. 507 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: Connor and play, I know you understand this, Buck youngster. 508 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: You probably do too. The reasonable lostter standard was established 509 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: and verified by the Scots and what it means is 510 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: a reasonable officer at that moment in time, not in 511 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 2: the microanalyzation of the video after and you've been at 512 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: the range. I know, Buck, have you ever been around 513 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: an accidental discharge. The first thing every cop I've ever 514 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: been around says, what the hell happened? Excuse me, where 515 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: did it happen? Who did that? I've been around the couple, 516 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: and you don't know when a gun goes off around 517 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 2: you exactly where it came from unless you physically witness it. Now, 518 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: if they're down wrestling with him, what it's going to 519 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: boil down to is how they articulate in those statements 520 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: what they saw and what if they feared for their 521 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: life or the lives of others, And nobody knows that 522 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: until they analyze it all. So the problem with the 523 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: whole thing is social media. Social media, every archer warrior 524 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: comes off and they've probably watched too many Dirty Harry movies. 525 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: Cops are real people too, They have real fears. Nobody 526 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: wants to hear that cops should be bulletproof, but. 527 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: We're not, and we're human. 528 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: And those cops, you know, just did as any cop 529 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: when you teach after shooting in review, every cop just 530 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: went through involved in an also involved shooting, just went 531 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 2: through the worst moment of their life. They know their 532 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: life has changed now and their head is not right. 533 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: So you know, there's a lot of factors in there 534 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: that the DOJ teaches that says, you know, you have 535 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: to you can't analyze everything after and expect that the 536 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: auser knew all that too, and that's going to be 537 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: the lynchpin in all of it. 538 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: You know. But that's excellent, all really excellent analysis from 539 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: somebody who understands what he's talking about. Thank you for 540 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: calling in, Sir. I would just say to add to 541 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: a few things. Their clay and everything you said is 542 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: spot on. The adrenaline dump. He mentioned AD accidental discharge 543 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: and the policy that I was under when I was 544 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: in rock in Afghanistan, if you had an AD, you 545 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: actually got sent you were sent home. That's how seriously 546 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: it was taken. So at the rate moving in a vehicle, 547 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: if you had an a D, it was pack your bags. 548 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: Because obviously everyone's carrying guns. We've got a lot of 549 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: people carying guns everywhere. And it's not only you've let 550 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: a round go and it could hit somebody. That's the 551 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: most immediate concern, but also in the wrong situation. You know, 552 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: if you're at a checkpoint or something and someone a D. Now, 553 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we think we're under five, you know, 554 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: and you can cascade. Danger grows with every time a 555 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: trigger our gun goes off, because I have I've been 556 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: on a on a at a range a long time 557 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: ago at the agency where someone had an a d 558 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you something. Everyone is like, what the heck? 559 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: What the you know, because no one's expecting gunfire, right, 560 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: So when when it goes, you have that moment where 561 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: you're like, uh, is that coming in my direction? Like, 562 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, did I get hit? I mean, so it's 563 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: so an AD is a really serious and really you know, 564 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: uh jolting thing. And if you're in the midst of 565 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: dealing with somebody, uh and an accidental discharge happens like that, 566 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 1: you're going to react as though you've been fired at. 567 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: Now what I if that is the fact pattern that 568 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: is really truly established here, Rather, if that is what 569 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: comes out of this clay, I think what you're going 570 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 1: to have as a situation where another officers, when all 571 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: said and done, will face any charges because none of 572 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: them would have acted in a way that was criminal 573 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: or wrong or anything else. This goes into more of 574 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: the tragic accident category. 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We're 610 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: trying to take some of your calls eight hundred and 611 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: two A two two eight eight eight two as we 612 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: are reacting to the shooting that took place in Minneapolis. 613 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: Bob in Georgia, what you got for us? 614 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, harrible and said man lost his life. And this 615 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 5: is about Christy Nome. Not to defend her, however, her 616 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 5: comments about the possibility of this person was going to 617 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 5: kill a lot of ice agents. Why do you go 618 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 5: with the gun with lots of extra ammo? Okay, why 619 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 5: do you go there with that on ID? And then 620 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 5: a follow up which I'll been talking talking about. Nobody 621 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 5: has been talking about how how would there be an 622 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 5: accidental discharge? I'm not a gun owner, so I'm kind 623 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 5: of out of my. 624 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 6: Depth here, but why was that a safety? 625 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 5: Was a safety off? And how did that safety come off? 626 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: Well, some guns don't have some guns don't have a safety, 627 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: and the gun in question here has a history of 628 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: accusations that if it basically it's a malfunction internally the 629 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: design that can just go off. So thank you for 630 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: the call. Well, by the way, which is which is 631 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: a huge problem for a gun maker and a gun company. 632 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,959 Speaker 1: It's about the worst problem you can have. So yeah, 633 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: what what I think DHS had to be careful of, 634 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: and they obviously have already put stuff out is I 635 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: always say I don't want story to be out without 636 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: evidence to support it. So when they said that he 637 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: was interested in committing acts of violence and that's why 638 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: he took the gun there, so far as I know, Buck, 639 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: there hasn't been any evidence to support that accusation, by 640 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: which I mean they haven't said, hey, we found all 641 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 1: these postings, we found all this evidence. Maybe it's out there, 642 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: but I think you have to be very careful of 643 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: getting far ahead of the evidence. My position on this 644 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: is I look at this as a as a dad, 645 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: and if my kids came to me and they said 646 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: we're going to go protest and we're going to take 647 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: a gun, I would say that's a really bad idea, 648 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: horribly stupid thing to do. You shouldn't really do anything 649 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: to do Bob in Texas. What have you got for 650 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: is another Bob? The two Bobs? Bobo. Yeah, man, you're 651 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: on retired law enforcement from Texas. Talk to us. 652 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is Michael, not Bob. But I don't answer 653 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 6: to anything. 654 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: Well it's sorry, it says Bob on the screen. So 655 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: you know I can't. I can't be held accountable code 656 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: red for producer Greg. Go ahead, Michael. 657 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 6: Yeah. I spent twenty one years farms instruct or, tactical officer, 658 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 6: a shooting team investigator. And I don't like to use 659 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 6: the word good shooting. I used the work clean or 660 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 6: not so clean, because no shooting good one man, it 661 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 6: messes with cops heads just like it does everybody else 662 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 6: is We're human and nobody wants to go through that. 663 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 6: But until all them body cams, every single one of them, 664 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 6: including the Whope videos that the Purple Head people took, 665 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 6: until they're all analyzed from every single direction, you're not 666 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 6: gonna be able to reconstruct that shooting legitimately. And I mean, yeah, 667 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 6: it's an unfortunate situation, but yeah, you're in a bomb 668 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 6: of combat. You got a nanosecond to make a decision. 669 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: Bob, I totally agree with you. That's exactly how I 670 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: feel about this. I want to see all the footage 671 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: and everything. Whereas in the Renee Good situation, once you 672 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: had seen, you know, there's a level of which you've 673 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: seen enough to know. I haven't seen enough to know. 674 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: I want to see more of the footage and see 675 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: this investigation play out. Clay will come back and talk 676 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: more about this.