1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg surveillance. The lows have been seen in 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: the commodity markets generally, whether it's in the soft whether 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: it's in the grains, whether it's in crude oil. Has 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: the FED laid out a new rationale for running monitory 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: policy other than looking at the labor market and looking 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: at inflation US We think that people have leapfrogged what 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: is reasonable into excessive worry. Bloomberg Surveillance your link to 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: the world of economics, finance, and investment on Bloomberg Radio. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: Good Morning, I might Coael mc key along with Tom Keane. 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: It's seven am on Wall Street where we are five 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: weeks into a rally and counting stocks closed Friday up 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: for the year finally, and indications are we'll at least 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: start the day higher in the U S something we 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: haven't had for a while. A merger Monday. Among the 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: deals and ounce so far, data company i H just 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: buying market Shurewin Williams buying val Spar, and W. L 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Ross buying chemical and plastics distributor next Eos Solutions has 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: also talked Monsanto is exploring deals with b A, s 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: F and Beer that's helping stocks in Europe right now, 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: the stock six hundred is we'll call it unchanged on 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: the day. The Docks Index at the moment is up 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: forty eight points half a percent. In the euro at 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: the moment is a liqupit higher one twelve eighty, not 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: a whole lot. Here In the US, futures are little changed. 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: We'll call the SNP up by a point. The Dow 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: futures are up thirteen points, that's a tenth of a percent, 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: and Anti one hundred evening features up by three points 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: right now a tenth as well. Dollar index is lower 29 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: still ninety five O four three heading for ninety four 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: perhaps h bonds at the moment, the ten year one 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: point eight seven or five year note going for one 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: point three three eight three basis points. The two year note. 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: Oil has been lower all morning, paired its losses. Brent 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: crude seen on a tenth West Texas at down one 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: point two percent. That's a little bit of drag on 36 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: stocks as well, but for the moment, in general, investors 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: shrugging off geopolitical concerns something Ian Bremer can't do. The 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: head of the Arasia Group worries for a living good morning. Uh, 39 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that could go wrong 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: out there. Obviously, what's the top thing or two that 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: likely will go wrong? What are you advising clients to 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: most watch out for. This is a weird environment because, um, 43 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: you have an enormous number of tail risks that are 44 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: things are that should be like not worry about at all, 45 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: that actually do have a meaningful prospect even though they're 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: not likely. So Brexit for example, or a Trump presidency 47 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: for example, Um, I mean a nine eleven, a true 48 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: nine eleven in continental Europe. Um, the implosion of a 49 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: Turkey or even of a Saudi Arabia. Those are the 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: sorts of things that you know. In the Cold War, 51 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: you had the Cuban missile crisis. You had a shot 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: that the whole damn world was gonna blow itself up, 53 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: but you couldn't really do anything about that, so you 54 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: just kind of ignored it. And if the markets blew up, 55 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: well everything else did too. Today it's not you don't 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: have the prospect of arm again. What you have is 57 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: a meaningful possibility that one of these ten horrible things 58 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: is actually gonna happen, and you don't know which one. 59 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: It's a much more complicated geopolitical environment if markets let 60 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: me just sat her up for a second. We have 61 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: another hot headline. Apparently, Marriott came back with a new 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: offer for Starwood thirty six cents a shared. Starwood now 63 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: says that's the superior proposal to end BANG. The Chinese 64 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: proposal came out the last week, so, um, the bidding 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: war underway for Starwood. Interestingly enough, you mentioned Cuba star 66 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Wood uh signing a deal to open to manage hotels 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: in Cuba. Um, as long as the president's there, let's 68 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: start with that. That's not a threat, is it. I mean, 69 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: how does Cuba out? Well, first of all, I mean 70 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: you can't have star Ward go and open a few 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: hotels and then have the Chinese by Starwood in Cuba 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: because it's like the communism never left at that point, right, 73 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: So you know, there's just too much for me. I'm 74 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: glad Marriott came back. Um. Well, I mean Obama, this 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: is one of his biggest wins under his administration. His 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: administration is not replete with foreign policy wins. Most American 77 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: allies feel worse off today than they did when Obama 78 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: first came in. The world is certainly not in a 79 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: happier place, So I mean, if that's the way you 80 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: judge it on balance, you'd say it's negative. But I mean, Cuba, 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: this is we're talking fifty years now. Look at the 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: cars on Cuba streets and realize that the Americans haven't 83 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: been selling since people used to drive cars like that, right, 84 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: And and this this is long overdue. There's going to 85 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: be extraordinary tourism, is going to be extraordinary investment, and 86 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: the Cuban government itself won't be able to stand up 87 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: to it for very much longer. That's that's a positive. 88 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: That's a key question because the Cuban government hasn't seemed 89 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: very interested in a lot of what American companies are 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: shing down there and offer no. And it's precisely because 91 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: they understand that American style globalization will mean the end 92 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: of that regime pretty quickly. But the Cubans don't have 93 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: other places to turn. They're not getting huge cash from China, 94 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: the Soviet unions not around anymore, um, the Russians don't 95 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: really care. And the Venezuelans, who were the one hold 96 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: out that we're putting cash in, I mean, they're about 97 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: to default by the end of this year. And Maduro 98 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: is basically done. Low oil prices will do that to you. 99 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: So Cuba had nowhere else to go. And when the 100 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: Americans cracked their foot in the door. The relation, the 101 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: size of that relationship is so overwhelmingly asymmetrical that it's 102 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: going to be almost impossible for the Cuban government to 103 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: stand up and say, no, mass we can't handle it anymore. Right. 104 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: I noticed Tom that he had tweeted over the weekend, Uh, 105 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: they withstood fifty years of embargo, but can they withstand 106 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: Starbucks or five minutes of Starbucks as well? Good morning everyone. 107 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Surveillance brought you by invest Goo to the day's headlines. 108 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: Have you searched for more investment views? Investcos experts can 109 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: help find out the latest thought leadership at the investco blog. 110 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Visit investco dot com, slash us to subscribe. Ian Bremmer 111 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: with us With a huge bout of international relations going on, 112 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: the President goes to Cuba. I guess we have an 113 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: Obama doctrine. I guess that's open to debate. Do we 114 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: have a Clinton or Trump doctrine? Discernible? Yet? The Clinton doctrine, 115 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: certainly when she was Secretary of State I think was 116 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: pretty clear. It's that the Middle East is the past, 117 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Asia is the future, China economics, but also security, that 118 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: the concern should be about the rise of China. You 119 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: want to get them on side. If you can't, you 120 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: want to have options. Their containment is an option if 121 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: the Chinese don't behave well. And that's both a security 122 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: concern but also a rise of state capitalism concern. So 123 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: I've think that Hillary laid that out. She certainly made 124 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: plenty of mistakes when she was Secretary of State. She 125 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: had some wins to um. But if you don't have 126 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: a problem with clarity of thinking for what she the 127 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: way that Hillary viewed the world um, and it's fairly 128 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: pragmatic too. I mean, she was the one that said 129 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: that on China that it's hard to lecture your banker 130 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: on human rights. And that's the kind of thing that 131 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: you wouldn't necessarily expect, for example, from some of the 132 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, sort of more traditional indispensable America type leaders 133 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: that we've seen on the repolicy. Trump is going to 134 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: go before to be you know, I mean, I mean 135 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: it's within a general and respectful phrase, the Israeli lobby, 136 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna learn more about Mr Trump's doctrine in the 137 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: coming weeks. Do you discern it at this time? Can 138 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: you give us a briefing on what you've seen so 139 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: far and foreign policy. I don't know why you'd think 140 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: we're going to learn anymore from Trump. We've gotten, you know, 141 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Trump saturation coverage for about eight months now, and we've 142 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: learned nothing but repetition but disclosure. Ambassador Hass was on 143 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: from the Council for Relations. He made clear he speaks 144 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: to everyone. He talked to Trump, but he he talks 145 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: to everybody as well. Let's sefr Yeah. Well, I don't 146 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: have a problem with the fact that Richard hass runs 147 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: the most important foreign policy institution in this country, the 148 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: Counsel and Foreign Relations, And I think it's it's almost 149 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: incumbent on him, given his job to make himself available 150 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: to the to the candidates of any stripe on both sides, 151 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: Trump is the one that you might consider saying no 152 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: to simply because he reflects such a subversion of the 153 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: values that the Americans were actually created their system on. 154 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: But look, the fact is that Trump doesn't have foreign policy. 155 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: Trump has a set of excuses that are ready made 156 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: for American populism. They are. You're not feeling good, and 157 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,119 Speaker 1: the reason for it is because you're being taken advantage 158 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: of by all of these other countries. And I'm gonna 159 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: give you permission to hate them. I'm gonna give you 160 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: permission to point the finger. It's their fault. It's a 161 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: very it's an American exceptionalism in a very narrow way. 162 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: And we're gonna blame the Mexicans for raping our women. 163 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna blame the Europeans for taking advantage of our 164 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: security largesse and being refused to pay it freeloading. We're 165 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: gonna blame the Muslim States for creating terrorists that want 166 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: to come over and blow us up. And we're gonna 167 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: blame the Chinese and the Japanese from stealing us blind if. 168 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: If that's a doctrine, Uh, the average Americans should want 169 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: no part of it. What is it that we should 170 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: want in the next president? You mentioned that we Obama 171 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: leaves office with the US maybe in worse shape overseas 172 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: than it was. What we turn that around? What do 173 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: we need to do? Well? Look, I mean, some of it, 174 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: um is that it's just getting harder. Some of it 175 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: is that the world, the foreign policy influence for the 176 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: United States is going to be uphill because in the 177 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: Middle East there are no easy solutions. No one's offering them, 178 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: not the Democrats or the Republicans. And China increasingly has power, 179 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: economic power in particular, and is willing to use it 180 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: in ways that will subvert u s national interests. And 181 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: that's so it's just a harder slog for the Americans. 182 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: But what you don't want is for American allies to 183 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: not be certain that they can count on the commitments 184 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: that the Americans have set up for decades and decades. 185 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: You want the alliances to be If there's gonna be 186 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: a slip, you want that slip to be as incremental 187 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: as possible. You don't want the alliances falling apart. You 188 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: want people still wanting to use the dollar. You want 189 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: people still wanting to come to the US and study 190 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: and make lives here. Um. And you also want them 191 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: feeling that American influence and projection of power is significant. 192 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: Let's come back with Ian Bremer from your Asia group, 193 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: Tom A tough world. Yeah, it is interesting that there 194 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: lots to talk about with dr the career. The markets 195 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: very quiet right now, futures up one. That's our surveillance, 196 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: brought to you by MASDA White Planes. Visit MASDA White 197 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: Planes dot com. Here's Michael Barr with news headlines. Mike Tom, 198 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: thank you very much. President of bob and Cuban President 199 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: our Lekestro will sit down at Havannah's Palace of the 200 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: Revolution today. The president and his family arrived yesterday in Havannah. 201 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: President Raoul Castro will formally greet President Obama today. North 202 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: Korea is continuing its weapon launches. It is apparently carrying 203 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: out in response to South Korea the US military drills 204 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: it sees as a provocation. Soul officials say the North 205 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: fired five short range projectiles into the sea today. Vice 206 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: President Joe Biden defended President Obama's policy towards Israel and 207 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: took a swipe at Donald Trump. Biden, speaking to the 208 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: American Israel Public Affairs Committees policy conference in Washington yesterday, 209 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: said the future belongs to the bridge builders, not the 210 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: wall builders. Global News twenty four hours a day, powered 211 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: by our two hundred journalists and more than a hundred 212 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: fifty news bureaus from around the world. Michael Bar, Mike Tom, 213 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Michael greatly appreciate it. With Ian 214 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: Bremer on America's foreign I we'll see this is Bloomberg's surveillance. 215 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg surveillance brought you by your tri State BMW center's 216 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: visits of online at tri State BMW dot com. 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