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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and no he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: Wicked hits theaters tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Here you.

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Speaker 3: And so far the movie is getting rave reviews. They're

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Speaker 3: very interesting that check out what they said. For instance,

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Speaker 3: this review said magical and uplifting and hang on, that's

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Speaker 3: actually a review for the shrooms your cousin brings to

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving and that's sorry. This next review called it the

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Speaker 3: tale of two people who has.

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Speaker 2: Passed never should have crossed.

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Speaker 3: Hang on, that's actually a review for Mike Tyson versus

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Speaker 3: Jake PAULMS.

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Speaker 2: This is a mistake. I'm so sorry. Here's another.

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Speaker 3: This review said Oz is back. This is insane. Don't

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Speaker 3: get ahead of me. I heard of you for Trump

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Speaker 3: putting doctor Oz and chars and medicare.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, this is a likable guy.

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Speaker 2: So uh uh.

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Speaker 5: Seinfeld says Fallen is the most normal person he's ever

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Speaker 5: met in short show business, which always sticks in my head.

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Speaker 2: I find that very interesting.

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Speaker 5: Uh So, Wicked is a reimagining of the Wizard of

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Speaker 5: Oz movie correct, and it's supposed to be really cool,

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Speaker 5: so I might actually take the kids to that. I mean,

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Speaker 5: my high schooler will hate it, but he hates everything,

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Speaker 5: So what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Ye the novel Wicked, and then you had the musical,

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Speaker 1: and this is yet a different mutation of it that

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Speaker 1: I don't think resembles the novel much, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So I want.

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Speaker 1: I only bring that up because I thought the novel

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Speaker 1: was fantastic.

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Speaker 5: Oh you did really interesting? Okay, cool, Well then the

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Speaker 5: movie might be good. It's kind it might be wildly different.

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Speaker 5: It's got a ton of big stars in it, which

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Speaker 5: is why on Saturday Night Live they did a sketch

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Speaker 5: about the screen tests for Wicked and all the different

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Speaker 5: people who had tried out for it. I meant to

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Speaker 5: grab this audio, what I never did, but so one

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Speaker 5: of them was Bernie Sanders trying out for a part

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Speaker 5: in Wicked, and it's Bernie Sanders says, the.

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Speaker 2: Wizard has millions and billions of dollars.

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Speaker 5: Well, meanwhile, the munchkins are living paycheck to paycheckutiful.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was hilarious. Yeah good, yeah, Oh, coming up.

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Speaker 5: We did one of those war game simulation thingies, which

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Speaker 5: I don't know how they work or how accurate they are,

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Speaker 5: but the Pentagon does it to see if we could

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Speaker 5: win a war, for instance, against China f China tries

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Speaker 5: to take Taiwan, and they briefed Congress on that yesterday

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Speaker 5: and some of the results are horrifying.

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Speaker 2: So stay tuned. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I actually read something a couple of weeks ago about

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Speaker 1: a father and son I think they're Brits that came

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Speaker 1: up with a computer game that was like the game Risk,

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Speaker 1: but not so boring and long. But it was essentially wargaming,

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Speaker 1: US War College and West Point and they use it

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Speaker 1: to wargame, which is really a story I think about

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Speaker 1: private enterprise and the amazing things you can do with

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Speaker 1: a little innovation.

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Speaker 5: There's a major caveat to this report, major, like so

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Speaker 5: major it makes you wonder why you even read the

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Speaker 5: report at Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fair enough, So we have been trying

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Speaker 1: to help people understand for a long time about how

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Speaker 1: artificially mandated minimum wages, essentially the government mandating, let's see,

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Speaker 1: for that work, you shall pay them that amount, is

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Speaker 1: a terrible idea. It's bad for workers, it's bad for business,

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Speaker 1: way the labor market works, and it causes real damage.

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Speaker 1: And the fabulous Katie Grimes of the California Globe was

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Speaker 1: writing about this and she's it came up because Californians, shockingly,

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Speaker 1: for the first time ever, rejected a minimum wage referendum

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Speaker 2: Wow. Now, now non Californians are saying.

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Speaker 1: Well, didn't y'all raise it to twenty bucks? No, that

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Speaker 1: was just for fast food workers for some reason. Actually,

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Speaker 1: the reason is because the Service Employees International Union wants

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Speaker 5: Fast food that doesn't serve bread in some capacity.

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Speaker 1: There was a weird carve out for putting Rona Gavin's buddies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, the folks at the Employment Policies Institute of

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Speaker 1: California had took a serious look at what has happened

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Speaker 1: since the increase in the fast food minimum wage. The

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Speaker 1: rejection comes on the heels of California's twenty dollars minimum

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Speaker 1: wage law for fast food workers that seen severe backlash

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Speaker 1: from employees and business owners alike and led to a

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Speaker 2: Not amount. You need me as your editor.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Californians are sending Gavenusom in the SEIU a clear

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Speaker 1: message they're sick of being lab rats for the pet

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Speaker 2: Here are the specifics.

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Speaker 1: After the implementation of the twenty dollars minimum wage. The

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Speaker 1: EPI survey found that the majority of restaurants say they

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Speaker 1: have the majority they've raised menu prices ninety eight percent.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we've raised menu prices.

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Speaker 5: So they called almost all the majority nice writing also.

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Speaker 2: Well, katie's busy and she's fabulous. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Now, the devil's ad position might be, well, there's been

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Speaker 1: there are other reasons for raising prices, you know, inputs,

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Speaker 1: idea that labor is in a significant part of the

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Speaker 1: cost of a fast food restaurant you don't know anything

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Speaker 1: about fast food restaurants anyway. What percentage of fast food

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Speaker 1: restaurants reduced employee hours? This got nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: the price base eighty nine percent, eighty nine limited employee

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Speaker 5: Wow, well, of course, of course, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I just I don't I don't understand. This

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Speaker 5: them to vote the other way if you have to

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Speaker 5: pay more for your workers. It's because so many people

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Speaker 5: believe that prices are just like random, arbitrarily set. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: they're arbitrarily said. There's no supply and demand curve or

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Speaker 2: That just doesn't make any sense if you're a child.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, it really doesn't. And again, it doesn't take

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Speaker 1: demand curves and elasticity. What elasticity is, anyway, has nothing

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Speaker 5: You're wearing their to your Thanksgiving dinner. Michael, And what's

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Speaker 5: your favorite example of inelastic product? I have mine from

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Speaker 2: Favorite example snake bite anti venom.

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Speaker 5: That's a pretty good one. Salt you're gonna buy the

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Speaker 5: same amount of if it was twice as much or

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Speaker 5: half as much, it's twice practically nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, elasticity essentially means the tendency of

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Speaker 2: I'll pay you the five one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: And if they said, did we say five hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: it just went up to five thousand, and you're going

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Speaker 5: It's one as opposed to a particular restaurant that raises

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Speaker 5: and you don't go there anymore.

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Speaker 2: You go to other restaurants or eat home. Right, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: You have many, many alternatives anyway, So how about next year?

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Speaker 1: The restaurants surveyed said next year, ninety three percent are

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm glad she wrote about this. I wish more

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Speaker 5: people were aware of this. They should be teaching this

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Speaker 5: in school. Going forward, eighty.

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Speaker 1: Seven percent said we're going to reduce employee hours even more.

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Speaker 1: Eighty seven percent, reduce staff or consolidate positions that means

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Speaker 5: So three quarters of them are going to reduce people.

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Speaker 5: So your effort to to make a better life for

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Speaker 1: The best number that the good folks at the Employment

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Speaker 1: loss of forty four hundred jobs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well California.

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Speaker 5: Well, I would like to know for the cut hours thing,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, forty five hundred people or so

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Speaker 1: And more to come. This year, almost without a doubt,

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Speaker 4: Anyway, that's I can't believe the voters were into this

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Speaker 5: I thought I read the other day, is the first

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Speaker 5: time a minimum waged prop had lost in America since

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Speaker 5: the nineties mid nineties. I'm glad people have caught onto

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Speaker 5: up to eighteen dollars an hour in California, wooh, that'd

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Speaker 1: I love the idea of the states being laboratories at democracy.

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Speaker 1: It's a wonderful, wonderful vision. I just it depends on

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Speaker 1: I would like to think if I were staunchly in

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Speaker 1: In fact, I have said so through the years. I

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Speaker 1: matter with you? Moral cowards? And you liars?

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Speaker 5: Breaking easy for me to say, I'm not a Ukrainian

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Speaker 2: Well, there are times you want to defy the media.

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Speaker 2: I like you.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not going to die on this hill just

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Speaker 5: I don't think these Republican senators would have said, hey,

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Speaker 1: Well, and my final comment on this will be and

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Speaker 2: Not a good guy.

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Speaker 1: If you have somebody go into the Justice Department to

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Speaker 2: Much better a position, way, way, way better.

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Speaker 1: I know you want a bomb chucker, but have it

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Speaker 5: It'll be forgotten to history. It's overright. Whereas if you

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Speaker 5: Don't waste your time, right, And there's a bunch of us,

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Speaker 5: Like I mean a bunch. Well, remember the Wall Street

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Speaker 5: when we come back from our next break, I will

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Speaker 5: have for you some tweets of people saying it's the

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Speaker 5: deep state, the deep state one with their lies and

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Speaker 5: everything to keep you in Okay, here's doing everything that's

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Speaker 5: good in the world.

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Speaker 1: And this might not necessarily refute that. But in addition

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Speaker 1: to his ethical and legal challenges, mister Gates has a

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Speaker 1: long record of gleefully disparaging some Republican.

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Speaker 2: Senators right whose votes he now needs to be confirmed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's why they hate him. And they would say look,

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Speaker 2: I hate you.

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Speaker 5: You have a.

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Speaker 1: Wipe off the sofa where you're sitting. Fraidy Cassam, your

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Speaker 1: orgy hung on there. Huh you'r orgy monk. Hey, don't

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Speaker 1: get any orgy on my upholstery.

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Speaker 5: You disgusting walking STD who said that the other day. Oh,

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Speaker 5: there's been dominant who couldn't be a bigger Trump honked like.

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Speaker 2: To try to do anything to help Trump with everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he called him a walking STD.

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Speaker 5: Oh all right, I feel like we need to take

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Speaker 5: a break and come back with the how the war

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Speaker 5: games went between US and China.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, And I'll make this very very short.

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Speaker 1: But we were asking before what Bernie Sanders response would

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Speaker 1: be to the the inevitable and obvious result of artificially

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Speaker 1: raised minimum wages, and that is that thousands of people

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Speaker 1: got laid off, many many thousands in California.

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Speaker 2: Got their hours reduced, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: He would advocate, I'm sure for a government mandated maximum

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Speaker 1: level of profit and any profit beyond that.

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Speaker 2: Would be distributed to the workers.

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Speaker 1: Workers would own the businesses in like the spirit of

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Speaker 1: the Soviet fantasy, and that less profitable to build businesses

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Speaker 1: would be subsidized by the high taxes on the more

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Speaker 1: profitable businesses, so everybody made a living wage, even if

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Speaker 1: their job was to, you know whatever, flip burgers or

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Speaker 5: By the way, I wouldn't cry any tears for Matt

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Speaker 5: Gates if you were a fan. I'm sure he's going

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Speaker 5: to work for some very lucrative company that his dad

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Speaker 5: sets him up with, and he'll live his party, privileged

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Speaker 5: lifestyle for the rest of his life. He'll be perfectly

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Speaker 5: fine without the scrutiny of the country. Bunch of good

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Speaker 5: stuff on the way, we will finish strong. Stay here.

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Speaker 5: Country music superstar Jelly Roll lost over one hundred pounds,

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Speaker 5: which you would have noticed if you watched the CMA's

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Speaker 5: last night.

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Speaker 2: You walked out.

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Speaker 5: A tiny sliver of what he has been as a

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Speaker 5: giant guy. See how long that lasts. Unfortunately, the diante,

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Speaker 5: oh you know how that works. Would the US win

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Speaker 5: a war with China over Taiwan? US lawmakers briefed on

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Speaker 5: the potential outcome yesterday in Congress. Here are some of

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Speaker 5: the headlines we uh the rest of the world could

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Speaker 5: probably stop China from taking Taiwan, But you would lose

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Speaker 5: a lot, is really the headline. House lawmakers were briefed

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Speaker 5: Wednesday about the potential outcome if the US were to

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Speaker 5: find itself at war with China over Taiwan within the

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Speaker 5: next two years, which is the expected timeline for China

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Speaker 5: to try to do this. The Chinese defense industrial base

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Speaker 5: is operating at a wartime footing, says the report.

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Speaker 2: Are we operating at a wartime footing? We are not?

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Speaker 5: Now has a shipbuilding capacity two hundred and thirty times

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Speaker 5: greater than the United States, making a potential invasion of

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Speaker 5: Taiwan a night not unlikely outcome.

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Speaker 2: I think I've heard enough.

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Speaker 1: Well, if it were not for China's financial and demographic problems,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to ask me what's the next thirty

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Speaker 1: years look like geopolitically, Joe, I'd say, well, they have

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Speaker 1: two hundred sometimes our shipbuilding capacity, and naval power is

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Speaker 1: going to be one of the deciding factors. So game over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. To steal a Joe Getti routine, it would be shocking.

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Speaker 5: China has twice the shipbuilding capacity I'm sorry, twenty times, No,

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Speaker 5: two hundred and thirty times. The shipbuilding capacity in the

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Speaker 5: United States that is shocking. US military analysts have projected

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty seven is the year by which China would

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Speaker 5: be fully equipped for a military invasion. Explains how they

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Speaker 5: do the whole war games thing to try to figure

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Speaker 5: this out in China invading Taiwan, et cetera. During the simulation,

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Speaker 5: the costs for all sides were high. The US lost

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Speaker 5: ten to twenty warships, two aircraft carriers which would be huge,

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Speaker 5: two hundred to four hundred warplanes, and more than three

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Speaker 5: thousand troops were killed in the first three weeks of fighting.

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Speaker 5: China loses ninety percent of its amphibious fleet, fifty two

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Speaker 5: major surface warships and one hundred and sixty planes. The

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Speaker 5: idea being that we could hold them off to be

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Speaker 5: US in Japan mostly holding them off, but it would

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Speaker 5: be a hell of a price to pay. The report

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Speaker 5: emphasized four key points. One, Taiwan must hold the line

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Speaker 5: of the ground invasion be up to them for the

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Speaker 5: ground part.

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Speaker 2: Two.

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Speaker 5: There's no Ukraine model here where the United States can

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Speaker 5: slowly escalate. It must decide immediately whether it's fully coming

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Speaker 5: to Taiwan's defense. That's where the rubber meets the road

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Speaker 5: really stole the words out of my mouth. Yeah, all

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Speaker 5: of this depends on the will to engage in it.

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Speaker 5: What military operations would be conducted through Japan. For the

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Speaker 5: US needs to immediately increase its supply of anti ship missiles.

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Speaker 5: But as it say says here, the scenario all depends

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Speaker 5: on the current presidents, in this case, probably Trump's decisional

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Speaker 5: whether or not they're going to defend Taiwan. Trump has

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Speaker 5: made some noises in the past saying I don't think

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Speaker 5: we would or I don't think we should. And I

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Speaker 5: remember listening to the National Review podcast, which I listened

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Speaker 5: to every week.

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Speaker 2: I really love every member on their podcast.

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Speaker 5: When they had this topic last year, sometimes said I

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Speaker 5: don't think we would, and I don't think we should

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Speaker 5: expend that level of expenditure three thousand. They don't think

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Speaker 5: the United States would have put up with the population

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Speaker 5: would be in.

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Speaker 2: Favor of it.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're you know, the politics runs our war machine.

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Speaker 5: The person that makes the decision as an elected official.

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Speaker 5: Three thousand deaths, two aircraft carriers, four hundred planes. Is

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Speaker 5: the average American into that for protecting Taiwan? They don't

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Speaker 5: even know what Taiwan is probably.

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Speaker 1: Not right right, and we could make our own chips eventually,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, not our issue.

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Speaker 2: China would then control.

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Speaker 5: I think the numbers are between twenty five and thirty

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Speaker 5: percent of international shipping. It would no longer be open

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Speaker 5: waters around the world as we have kept it since

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Speaker 5: World War Two, and the bridge kept it before then

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Speaker 5: that would be over.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, Barbary pirates, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how this is not true.

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Speaker 1: I think we are heading toward another period of wars

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Speaker 1: of conquest. Vlad Putin kicked it off. Really, China's going

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Speaker 1: to continue it. China has made enormous inroads in our hemisphere.

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Speaker 1: In South America, by the way, I've been reading a

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Speaker 1: great deal about this as well, and they're doing it

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Speaker 1: by hook and crook and loan and assistance and trade

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Speaker 1: relationships and all sorts of stuff. As we've ignored our

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Speaker 1: own backyard to our detriment. But where those moves are resisted,

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Speaker 1: say in Central America or South America.

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Speaker 2: There it's some country country X.

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Speaker 1: Where the government officials or would be government officials become

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Speaker 1: more and more in league with China for their own profit,

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Speaker 1: and forces within that country decide to resist that because

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Speaker 1: they know how unholy and destructive that would be long term.

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Speaker 1: And the war is on with China backing guerrilla factions,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not overt first, you know, like non

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Speaker 1: proxy wars of conquest. They're backing of military factions in

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Speaker 1: our hemisphere.

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Speaker 2: I think is about to explode.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think we don't come to Taiwan's defense,

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Speaker 5: which would be a great shame for the United States

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Speaker 5: of America, as we have promised that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: But I think there'd be a hell of a strong response,

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Speaker 1: but not trodding the full horse of the Navy and

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Speaker 1: our fighters out there.

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Speaker 5: Now, Boy, would there be a strong response. As the

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Speaker 5: war games say, you're either all in or there's no point.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry immediately quotes strong response. I should have said sanctions.

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Speaker 5: You announced the toughest sanctions.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to use the S word, jack, but

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Speaker 1: you've laid it on the table. That's right, sanctions, the

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Speaker 1: toughest sanctions anyone has ever seen.

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Speaker 2: It will be a pariah.

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Speaker 5: China is now a pariah and they're isolated as Russia's

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Speaker 5: economy is growing faster than ours currently.

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Speaker 2: They're isolated. Look up and smell reality.

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Speaker 7: Strong Strong, You're ready?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we love that one. I can back to a

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Speaker 2: simpler time, doesn't it.

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Speaker 5: That was a hit song back in the day. Did

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Speaker 5: you know that, Katie? Maybe they're young. Here's your host

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Speaker 5: for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a final.

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Speaker 1: Talk from everybody on the crew. To wrap up the show.

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Speaker 1: There is our technical director, Michael Angelow, laboring away in

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Speaker 1: his cage, pressing the buttons. Michael, what's your final thought? Well,

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Speaker 1: we're one week away from Thanksgiving, and so the following

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Speaker 1: phrases is what I'll be saying to my.

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Speaker 2: Relatives next week at this time.

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Speaker 7: Let's see we got.

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Speaker 2: Quit watching me too?

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Speaker 1: And yes, this is my third plate, and you think

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Speaker 1: you're better than me? And finally, yes, I grab mashed

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Speaker 1: potatoes with my hand, deal with it.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I place my rules.

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Speaker 1: Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman. As a final thought, Katie.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna get my hands on one of.

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Speaker 1: Those Aztec death whistles and just blow at whatever somebody's

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Speaker 1: bothering me.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that'd be funny and horrifying. Jack final thought for us, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking.

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Speaker 5: I need to set my parameters for the year on

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Speaker 5: weight gain. What am I willing to put up with

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Speaker 5: during this holiday season? Because if I don't have some

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Speaker 5: sort of range of acceptance, that could get out of

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Speaker 5: hand very quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna mention and I went to my Bourbon

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Speaker 1: Appreciation Society dinner last night and my weight has been really,

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Speaker 1: really good.

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Speaker 2: But the dessert was.

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Speaker 1: A pecan pie with a full sized Reese's Peanut butter

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Speaker 1: cup on top of it.

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course, the course plays off a little

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Speaker 2: of the pie, then a little of a cup.

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Speaker 1: Put it in your mush and know that God wants

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Speaker 1: us to be happy.

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Speaker 5: Of course, the pie has a giant Reese's Peanut butter

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Speaker 5: cup on top of it.

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Speaker 1: Of course I never eat stuff like that. I looked

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Speaker 1: at it, I'm like, what is this a joke? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll try.

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Speaker 2: It featuring pie surely. Yeah, that's true, that's Truely.

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Speaker 5: Armstrong and getting wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

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Speaker 2: So many people thanks a little time.

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Speaker 1: Good Armstrong and Getty dot Com, the superstore, get your cut.

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Speaker 2: The crap T shirt. It's time to stand up to

657
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Speaker 2: the madness. The woke lunatics. Cut the crap back to sanity.

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Speaker 2: Why did Gates drop out?

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Speaker 5: Spend the day looking into that, and we'll have all

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Speaker 5: the news for you tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: God bless America. I'm strong and it's mere sound could

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Speaker 2: could make you insane.

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Speaker 1: Such as the what this one actually and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, what in the hell I mean? This feels like

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Speaker 2: a more red alert moment for democracy.

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Speaker 5: So let's go with a buying so they like shelaq

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Speaker 5: the banana or pray shellac in the banana is not

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Speaker 5: something we need at all, not during the holiday season.

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Speaker 2: Is strong and Getty