Speaker 1: Welcome to pod meets Twirl, the Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: recap hosted by two guys who.
Speaker 2: Can't dance don't want to dance.
Speaker 1: And I've now seen three episodes of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1: But since our best friend Danielle has joined the cast
Speaker 1: for season thirty.
Speaker 2: Four, we're going all in.
Speaker 1: Where Wilfred Ell and Ryder Strong aka the two dudes
Speaker 1: standing next to Topanga aka Danielle Fishal's backup aka the Daniettes.
Speaker 2: Hello, Will Daniette, Hello Rider dan Yette.
Speaker 3: How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling Daniette. I always feel Daniette. Yeah, is this
Speaker 2: gonna use morning?
Speaker 1: And she said, good, We're gonna use it like Smurf Smurfy.
Speaker 1: You're looking Smurfy. You're looking dan Yette.
Speaker 4: Do you remember when they tried to do the other
Speaker 4: smurfs the snorks?
Speaker 2: You remember the snorts? It was underwater. How can they talk?
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4: I had so many questions about snork Village, whatever the
Speaker 4: hell it was called.
Speaker 2: One woman did have one snorket too.
Speaker 4: And Smurfet there was only one one woman in the
Speaker 4: Smurf village as well, and they're all trying not.
Speaker 2: To get eaten by Gargamel. It's dark up. Think about smurfs.
Speaker 2: Most taste so good. Dude, He's willing to dedicate all
Speaker 2: that time and energy, and.
Speaker 4: I think if they're prepared, right, I try one? Yeah,
Speaker 4: me too, Like just one? Come on, there was one
Speaker 4: smurf there, nobody the crappy smurf or whatever that everybody
Speaker 4: could have tried one of those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: This is important stuff. At nine in the morning, Dad's
Speaker 1: In with the Stars, Episode three, How you feeling?
Speaker 2: Don't get me started. This show is starting to piss
Speaker 2: me off. Shows really starting to piss me off.
Speaker 1: We're good, good, good, We're getting angry. Okay, show can
Speaker 1: you talk about while you're angry? Do you want to
Speaker 1: save it for when we're going through the dances?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: No, I mean my overall anger with the show is
Speaker 4: I feel like half of the cast are professional dancers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that pisses me. It really makes me angry.
Speaker 4: Where you get people like Dilan Ephron or Danielle or
Speaker 4: people or or Andy where it's like, hey, look at
Speaker 4: the progress, saying mate, this is great, And then you
Speaker 4: get people who've been dancing their entire lives and get
Speaker 4: paid to dance and it's like, come on.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting because Carrie Ann actually kind of reference
Speaker 1: that this episode when she was sort of categorizing them
Speaker 1: as you're in the beginner's category. Yeah, you're And I
Speaker 1: was like, well, that's interesting, But I guess it's built
Speaker 1: into the show. So I don't I don't know if
Speaker 1: it pisses me off so much as it just seems
Speaker 1: like kind of a sandwich of two different shows.
Speaker 2: You know, but that's the thing.
Speaker 4: It makes you wonder, if you know, can somebody I mean,
Speaker 4: I thought, and again this is having seen exactly as
Speaker 4: much Dancing with the Stars as you have at this point.
Speaker 4: I thought the point was like a bunch of people
Speaker 4: who taking a bunch of people who can't dance and
Speaker 4: teaching them how to dance. Right, if you're doing If
Speaker 4: I'm watching Top Chef and half of them are people
Speaker 4: who've never been in the kitchen and the other half
Speaker 4: have gone to culinary school, right, that's not as good
Speaker 4: a show to me.
Speaker 1: It's tricky though, because somebody like Jordan, right, who's coming
Speaker 1: in with so much athleticism.
Speaker 2: But that's not dancing. It's not dancing.
Speaker 1: But she's clearly going to be doing different things than
Speaker 1: Danielle is even capable of doing. Course, and yet she's
Speaker 1: still learning how to dance to a certain degree. And
Speaker 1: she's right, but that's different than a professional dancer, like
Speaker 1: I would argue, you can't. And this might be a
Speaker 1: strange thing to say, but we've talked about this before
Speaker 1: when it comes to like magicians, where they say it's
Speaker 1: easier to take an entertainer and teach the magic than
Speaker 1: it is to take a magician and teach him how
Speaker 1: to entertain. So Jordan might have physical attributes that Danielle
Speaker 1: won't be able to do, but she'll never be the
Speaker 1: entertainer that Danielle is.
Speaker 2: But they're still on that level of dance. But this
Speaker 2: is why they.
Speaker 1: Have those you know, the popular vote, right, this is
Speaker 1: why they were the judges and the popular vote.
Speaker 2: And I guess get that there was some math.
Speaker 1: That we did last week that kind of explained to this,
Speaker 1: but it does seem like there's a fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: split so that people, you know, have a shot even
Speaker 1: just for the popularity and for their progress, you know,
Speaker 1: I think they're hoping that that sort of balances out
Speaker 1: in the end as far as who gets eliminated, right.
Speaker 5: Can I ask you guys, Can I ask you guys
Speaker 5: a question as to the argument that people make, like
Speaker 5: against this, saying that, I mean, Hilario doesn't count because
Speaker 5: she has ballroom experience, but that just because Whitney went
Speaker 5: to school for dance, it wasn't in ballroom.
Speaker 2: No, and no, that's not an argument at all.
Speaker 4: That's like saying, because I went to culinary school and
Speaker 4: just learned Italian, I won't know how to cook Mexican. Well,
Speaker 4: if you know how to cook, then you're already you're
Speaker 4: already ten steps ahead of somebody who doesn't know how
Speaker 4: to cook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see that. I see that in baseball too.
Speaker 5: It's like just because you're you know, you play baseball,
Speaker 5: you've been to bat, you can hit a fastball. Just
Speaker 5: because a curve is coming, doesn't mean I don't think
Speaker 5: you're better than me.
Speaker 1: Right right, I think that the argument would be it's
Speaker 1: more like taking a baseball player and making them play basketball.
Speaker 2: Like maybe it's I mean, I.
Speaker 4: Don't know, I don't know, but it was that coupled
Speaker 4: with not liking any of the music, and and I'm
Speaker 4: I'm very much not a TikTok fan.
Speaker 2: I think it's frankly destroying an entire generation of people.
Speaker 2: So that this whole week annoyed me.
Speaker 1: F well, okay, yeah, but the TikTok thing was really intense.
Speaker 1: It was it's not my scene and made me feel
Speaker 1: very old.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also just felt like kind of a giant ad
Speaker 1: for TikTok.
Speaker 2: You know, can we Is anybody gonna be critical of this? No,
Speaker 2: of course not.
Speaker 1: It felt like it was brought to you by TikTok,
Speaker 1: which I guess it probably was, right, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: So it was just like a TikTok fest, which I
Speaker 2: found a little you know this to me.
Speaker 4: And again people are gonna be like, there's no equivalency,
Speaker 4: but there is absolutely equivalency. This was a week brought
Speaker 4: to you by cigarettes, Like like, literally, this is what
Speaker 4: this would have been. But dancing with the Stars sponsored
Speaker 4: by Marlboro.
Speaker 2: That's what this would have been.
Speaker 4: Everybody's gonna smoke before they dance, exactly. I mean that's
Speaker 4: what this is to be with TikTok.
Speaker 1: So I will say I think I enjoyed the production
Speaker 1: of this week better than the other week, as I
Speaker 1: don't disagree.
Speaker 4: I had some of the I had some problems with
Speaker 4: some outfits this week interesting and one of them is
Speaker 4: our best friend.
Speaker 2: I was really Oh, I did not like her dress.
Speaker 2: I did not I did not like the way she
Speaker 2: dressed this week. I was not a fan of Danielle's
Speaker 2: outfit this week.
Speaker 4: Okay for the first time, because now I'm noticing this
Speaker 4: stuff and I'm like.
Speaker 2: I don't like that dress. All right, let's get into it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's do it.
Speaker 1: And our first up dancer are first dancing partner. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can't talk.
Speaker 2: First, you're talking about TikTok.
Speaker 1: The TikTok, the tips, the tip of the talk talk
Speaker 1: the tip, the that's tag model now j and Yan Revnik.
Speaker 1: They danced to a song which was the same one
Speaker 1: that apparently had made her a TikTok star because she
Speaker 1: danced right after giving birth. They showed a little clip
Speaker 1: of her dancing around in her hospital gown.
Speaker 2: Hospital gown. She's still doing tiktoks in the hospital.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, I mean, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: this is her story, right, because she's eight kids.
Speaker 2: How many kids does she have?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: She gave her really recently. She's only like nine weeks
Speaker 2: out of give me barefoot in the hospital. Weird. They
Speaker 2: did the Chacha cha too, She's a bad mama Jama.
Speaker 2: What do you think? I actually liked it again, I
Speaker 2: mean again, I think so.
Speaker 4: One of the things I noticed, especially with this dance,
Speaker 4: so we've started two weeks in a row where the
Speaker 4: first dance has been really good, and so you're starting
Speaker 4: high energy and we're jumping right in.
Speaker 2: I thought it looked great. Again. I wasn't a fan
Speaker 2: of the song.
Speaker 4: But then when it got to judging, wet we heard
Speaker 4: the judging and Sue and I looked at each other
Speaker 4: and went, oh, Okay, they're going to start getting harsher,
Speaker 4: like they're they're going to start critiquing way.
Speaker 1: More exactly what I thought. I was like, this feels
Speaker 1: a little low because it was like the gloves were off,
Speaker 1: like she's being held to a higher standard.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I thought I thought it was a good dance.
Speaker 1: I thought it probably could have been scored a little
Speaker 1: bit higher. Me too, me to you know, the whole
Speaker 1: fake belly thing kind of made me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: It was weird. I get what they're doing, you know.
Speaker 4: Obviously she's supposed to be it's a throwback to her
Speaker 4: original video so yeah, I got it, but yes, it
Speaker 4: kind of made.
Speaker 2: Me a little bit uncomfortable as well. Yeah, because on
Speaker 2: one hand, you're like should you be dancing with that bit?
Speaker 2: And then it's like, oh, it's fake. They're ripping it off.
Speaker 2: And then it's like, well, where'd the baby go? No,
Speaker 2: I don't worried about this.
Speaker 1: They just we went from like you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like either stick with the belly the whole dance
Speaker 1: or just don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a little weird visual for me.
Speaker 2: I agree, but the dance was good.
Speaker 4: I mean they're personable, and again I think she has
Speaker 4: she's a TikTok dancer.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: I think soever goes first is always in a bad
Speaker 2: position too.
Speaker 1: I think so takeaway is like you never don't go first,
Speaker 1: Like the judges are just not warmed up. Everybody feels,
Speaker 1: you know, it just feels like it's an unhair position.
Speaker 4: I have a big overall question for you, and producer
Speaker 4: Jensen can jump in as well, because I Susan and
Speaker 4: I got into a discussion about this. If you are
Speaker 4: famous for dancing on TikTok and you get sponsorship and
Speaker 4: you get deals, and you do all that stuff? Are
Speaker 4: you then a professional dancer because you're getting paid to
Speaker 4: do TikTok dances?
Speaker 2: Is that a professional dancer?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 6: Can I make an argument?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 6: So a lot of TikTok dances people are only dancing
Speaker 6: from the waist up, a lot like all like these
Speaker 6: big right TikTok dances are not including your feet, which
Speaker 6: sounds weird, but it's all waist up. It's like arm
Speaker 6: movements and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So then you could you argue that Michael Flatley, lord
Speaker 4: of the dance, who only dances from the waist down,
Speaker 4: is not a professional dancer?
Speaker 2: Will you?
Speaker 3: Are?
Speaker 2: You are getting into it?
Speaker 3: I mean he moved, he moves his feet.
Speaker 5: I mean I hate to be a person who defends
Speaker 5: river dance on a podcast. He does technically move his
Speaker 5: feet up and down.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, But that's what I'm saying is if
Speaker 4: it's only half of your body. So the argument for
Speaker 4: producer Tara is that TikTok dances are only the waist up,
Speaker 4: So Michael flat only dances the waist down.
Speaker 3: But feed are the recipe of.
Speaker 2: Dancing, sir, aren't they? Also?
Speaker 3: Wait, you're talking about the Vogue or something? What dance.
Speaker 2: Are you referencing dancing break dancing?
Speaker 4: A lot of times you're doing stuff popping and locking
Speaker 4: that's just up top.
Speaker 2: How is that not professional dancing?
Speaker 6: Well, that's also having musicality.
Speaker 7: Right, See this is where this is where also it
Speaker 7: starts crushing the most TikTok dancing that you're doing a
Speaker 7: dance that somebody else has already done, like that you're
Speaker 7: imitating like that.
Speaker 2: Don't just got to invent it, right, right?
Speaker 1: But I think the point of TikTok most of the
Speaker 1: time is that you somebody else has already done a
Speaker 1: dance video and you do your.
Speaker 3: And someone has to be the first.
Speaker 5: It can't just be for like a movie or TV
Speaker 5: show like there's usually a choreographer who started it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, or like somebody does a dance trend and you
Speaker 6: like they credit them and yeah, so yeah, it keeps going.
Speaker 2: Right, But my original question holds.
Speaker 4: So if you become famous for doing TikTok dances, even
Speaker 4: somebody else's TikTok dances, and you're not making billions of
Speaker 4: you have millions of followers, and you're making millions of
Speaker 4: dollars doing TikTok dances, aren't you a professional dancer.
Speaker 5: I mean, the argument is are you being paid for it?
Speaker 5: And does that make you a professional?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like it's something different, right, It's
Speaker 1: not like you auditioned for a dance company.
Speaker 2: It's not like you take discipline which TikTok doesn't have.
Speaker 3: Or what if what if you're a writer.
Speaker 5: What if you're a writer at home and you finally
Speaker 5: get published in a magazine and you get paid for it,
Speaker 5: Are you a professional writer?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: So if I'm a dancer and I dance at home
Speaker 5: and I get paid for dancing in my professional dancer.
Speaker 2: Yes, hm. That's my argument is yes you are.
Speaker 4: I mean it might be the platform might be different
Speaker 4: than it ever has been before, but social.
Speaker 2: Media, that's what is the rule of Dancing with the
Speaker 2: Stars that you can't be a professional dancer to be
Speaker 2: on the celebrity side or it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's been vague, it's been vague.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I don't, you know, don't I guess
Speaker 4: none of this matters and it's all okay if the
Speaker 4: judges take all of that into consideration, like if the
Speaker 4: three the three people that start are going to get
Speaker 4: eights across the board, say, and then Andy comes up
Speaker 4: and can get eights across the board by just improving,
Speaker 4: then I'm fine with it, which I think we're doing.
Speaker 3: I think we're I think they're judging the journey.
Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope so.
Speaker 4: But I think it seems like because when they showed
Speaker 4: the last girl that danced that that won last year,
Speaker 4: who was a big part of this this episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a professional TikTok dancer. Correct, well yeah.
Speaker 3: Two years ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, two years ago. Okay, but she never did ballroom,
Speaker 6: so she was So that's also another argument that people
Speaker 6: have is like growing up, you can take like hip
Speaker 6: hop classes, jazz classes, but ballroom is completely different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will to me. Are you not entertained? I am?
Speaker 2: But the point is entertainment. The point is people what
Speaker 2: I want to know the But it's a competition. It's
Speaker 2: a competition. Is a competition.
Speaker 1: But I think the point is that the popular vote
Speaker 1: balances all this out right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and beyond Andy wouldn't beyond.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the judge.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree that they get to explain their thinking
Speaker 1: and they are being very open, like you're a beginner
Speaker 1: and you're making great progress. Therefore I'm going to rate
Speaker 1: you according I'm assuming, and then somebody you know that
Speaker 1: is a professional there like you are a professional.
Speaker 2: You can do better where you're you know, I will
Speaker 2: better about the whole thing.
Speaker 4: If in the finals at least one of the couples
Speaker 4: is somebody that isn't one of these professionals.
Speaker 2: I think that'll be the truth. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the show.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's probably two tracks and then the
Speaker 1: professional dancer wins me.
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, right right, But if that's
Speaker 2: the case, if it's.
Speaker 4: At least fair going forward, But I mean, if American
Speaker 4: Idol becomes half people that are just looking for a
Speaker 4: break and half people that have record contracts and that
Speaker 4: are professional singers, it changes the show. So I'm just
Speaker 4: I again, I want somebody like my best friend to
Speaker 4: have as much of an opportunity as everybody else who.
Speaker 3: Currently currently a non professional. Is the Vegas odds onwere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree, So that's the thing. Wait, so
Speaker 2: that's there are Vegas odds on these or so who's who's.
Speaker 4: The It's got to be Robert Irwin, I would imagine. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 4: So Yeah, I'm just saying I wanted to get that
Speaker 4: off my chest. I'm a big rule guy, you know me.
Speaker 4: I'm a big rule follower, so I want to know
Speaker 4: the rules. And again it goes into my fantasy thing.
Speaker 4: I like to know the world building and what all
Speaker 4: the rules are when I go in. So and that
Speaker 4: was that through me this week where it's like, man,
Speaker 4: I'm watching half professional dancers who are amazing and then
Speaker 4: people who are learning how to dance.
Speaker 2: It seems like two different shows to me, But I'll
Speaker 2: get over it. I'm just saying I wanted to vent.
Speaker 2: It's an entertaining dance show.
Speaker 4: It's a competition, It's an entertaining dance dance.
Speaker 2: Just go with it. God, can we move on to
Speaker 2: dance too please?
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Laura first, like the first one, felt it was a
Speaker 1: little low seven to six six. Then we went to
Speaker 1: Lauren and Brandon this is they got to dance to
Speaker 1: one of her own songs.
Speaker 2: Which I thought was really kind of cool.
Speaker 1: I don't know Fifth Harmony's music, but I thought this
Speaker 1: dance was good, if not great. My only thing was
Speaker 1: the weird ending at the table where she like sat
Speaker 1: down at a table at the end.
Speaker 2: Well that was with her band, so she sat with
Speaker 2: Fifth Harmony.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was just a I mean I get that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, in concept, but like it was a weird
Speaker 1: awkward moment.
Speaker 2: I was like, it didn't land hard enough.
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, were you okay with the theatricality
Speaker 4: in the beginning, like the construction vibe and all the
Speaker 4: kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It started for I mean all the I mean, every
Speaker 1: time they were doing a TikTok integration, I was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't care, just get to agree the bar and
Speaker 1: so yeah, No, this one in particular started a little slow.
Speaker 1: It had this like awkward interaction with the construction Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and uh yeah, I mean, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess we can everyone's already watched the episodes, so we
Speaker 1: can say that this is a team that got voted off,
Speaker 1: and I thought that that was a little unfair, especially
Speaker 1: given how much I liked them them last week, and
Speaker 1: I thought that this week.
Speaker 2: Was I did not see it coming at all. I
Speaker 2: didn't see it coming at all. I guess produce.
Speaker 4: Suitari says that was part of the music video of
Speaker 4: the song Construction site. So for the original song, this
Speaker 4: was I guess a nod to that, which, of course
Speaker 4: you and I would not be.
Speaker 2: You know, all this TikTok stuff.
Speaker 1: Do you remember do you remember when the Oscars they
Speaker 1: did the selfie at the Oscars because the selfie was
Speaker 1: a new thing, and it was the first awkward like
Speaker 1: integration of like, hey, what's this thing that came a
Speaker 1: you're doing all the TikTok stuff this week.
Speaker 3: This age is.
Speaker 1: So poorly it makes everybody look so old and awkward,
Speaker 1: like just don't even do it, like say, I like
Speaker 1: a'll fond throw and then we're like, well, let's do
Speaker 1: a TikTok.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop, stop, stop, say this thing is cool TikTok.
Speaker 4: It was an hour long or two hour long ad
Speaker 4: for TikTok and all right, but the dance I liked,
Speaker 4: and I agree with you hundred percent. I was it
Speaker 4: was shocking to me that she was the one that
Speaker 4: went home. And we'll get into that later, but you
Speaker 4: could tell she was.
Speaker 1: And I thought Bruno gave a note to her. He said,
Speaker 1: you know, he said.
Speaker 2: Something or like punch and pop, And I totally agree.
Speaker 2: She does.
Speaker 1: She she's never had like you know, last week they
Speaker 1: called her like willowy and like she's always had an elegance,
Speaker 1: but she's never quite nailed the like you know, actual
Speaker 1: like hitting us a move, like the rhythm of like move.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe it exactly what he said,
Speaker 1: punch and pop. And it was the second he said that.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's what I was missing a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I guess we'll never know because she won't.
Speaker 4: Be back no, which is sad because I thought she
Speaker 4: was personable and she was really good, and I thought
Speaker 4: she was one of the better dancers frankly.
Speaker 2: So they got six, six and six, which I thought
Speaker 2: was low. Yeah, but at this point.
Speaker 1: You know, before you know, after the first one, I
Speaker 1: was like, I guess we're just keeping these scores really low.
Speaker 1: So I was sort of like, all right, these judges
Speaker 1: are just being harsh this week.
Speaker 4: Or do you think at this point does anybody know
Speaker 4: who's going home?
Speaker 2: Like, do you think they tell the judges?
Speaker 4: I imagine nobody knows who's actually going home so they
Speaker 4: can get the reaction from everybody.
Speaker 3: Right, they can't. They can't because the voting is open.
Speaker 1: The voting is still open. This is the thing I
Speaker 1: got into it with with Alex again. This week because
Speaker 1: she was like, so, wait are they voting based on
Speaker 1: tonight and people person getting kicked off tonight is based
Speaker 1: on this dance And I was like, no, that's oh
Speaker 1: wait I.
Speaker 4: Think so, but no, we just we talked about that
Speaker 4: last week. Two people are dancing that have already been
Speaker 4: kicked off.
Speaker 3: No, No, that's what Tar.
Speaker 4: We've talked to producer Tar last week who said, no,
Speaker 4: two people are dancing who have already that are already gone.
Speaker 2: Well, they're already in the bottom.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're in the bottom.
Speaker 1: They know the numbers, so confusing. The producers know the number,
Speaker 1: but then those numbers get the numbers from tonight that
Speaker 1: we're watching, do get added to that, and then.
Speaker 3: The count's started over. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So the reason why last week is because we didn't
Speaker 6: have an elimination night one, so it did count also
Speaker 6: from week one.
Speaker 5: But now every week now, every week as the show
Speaker 5: starts at five pm Eastern, everything starts over, so it's
Speaker 5: at zero all across.
Speaker 2: It doesn't get added to what was the week before. No.
Speaker 1: God, So if somebody can really just come out of
Speaker 1: the gate with like tens and the audience could just
Speaker 1: love something and then they win, that week from being
Speaker 1: on the bottom of the week before correct RT.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's all just live voting. None of it
Speaker 4: is now. The week before that was only the first
Speaker 4: week because of the to the double elimination.
Speaker 5: I just want to say, I think it's so funny
Speaker 5: that this podcast has become sixty to seventy percent trying
Speaker 5: to figure out.
Speaker 2: The rules of the exactly everyone exactly. Yeah, that's so yeah,
Speaker 2: we're getting there.
Speaker 4: Okay, everyone knows our opinions matter more than any of
Speaker 4: the other judges' opinions. Anyway, six is across the board
Speaker 4: seemed a little again, thought it was low yep.
Speaker 1: Then we moved into Danielle and Pasha wonderful, classy. I
Speaker 1: thought she was great, This is great and and and
Speaker 1: I feel like these two have just, you know, consistently,
Speaker 1: you know, if anything, I would say a little safe
Speaker 1: compared to you know, everything everybody else but great dancing.
Speaker 2: I thought.
Speaker 1: Bruno gave fantastic feedback. And then uh, Carrie Anne said
Speaker 1: this thing about being the middle of the pack, and
Speaker 1: I just like, hold on, what does that mean?
Speaker 2: Like so the.
Speaker 4: Judgment, I thought it too, But I think she means
Speaker 4: numerically she does because every week, Danielle's in the middle
Speaker 4: of the pack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was like, how does she do? But do the
Speaker 1: judges have access to the results?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, I think she just knows that when as there
Speaker 4: as the judges are coming in, Daniel's usually towards the middle.
Speaker 4: Because I thought the same thing, okay, and than what
Speaker 4: she was wearing, which I was not a fan of.
Speaker 2: I love how these two are just dancing.
Speaker 4: Every week, They're just dancing, and they look like they're
Speaker 4: getting even more comfortable with each other. They are arguably,
Speaker 4: and I know we say this every week, hugely biased,
Speaker 4: arguably have the most chemistry and charisma of any couple
Speaker 4: that's dancing out there. And I'm look forward to seeing
Speaker 4: her dance every week, not just because I love her
Speaker 4: like a sister, but because.
Speaker 2: They're really good.
Speaker 3: Yes, and we also we know them.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've learned to know Pasha over time now,
Speaker 5: but you know Danielle very well. We're talking about two
Speaker 5: serious rule followers.
Speaker 1: Yes, they are trying to achieve the they are aiming
Speaker 1: for ballroom dancing, and they're making it like Yes, and
Speaker 1: you can see daniel Hall working so hard to learn
Speaker 1: this form and to you know, and I luckily I
Speaker 1: feel everybody's getting that, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like that?
Speaker 1: And it's so interesting because as opposed to a lot
Speaker 1: of the other actors or more you know, she's not
Speaker 1: doing a lot of like frills and trying to insert
Speaker 1: so much personality to sort of no overcompensate a huge
Speaker 1: facial feature.
Speaker 2: None of that. She's just classically dancing. She's doing like
Speaker 2: the assignment.
Speaker 1: And I think that is a really I think that's
Speaker 1: a really good long term strategy.
Speaker 5: You know, because a person she you know her from
Speaker 5: acting with her, but like this is a person who
Speaker 5: went to college in her thirties and like just absolutely
Speaker 5: every day did exactly what she needed to do in
Speaker 5: each class.
Speaker 3: I mean she didn't.
Speaker 5: She didn't she didn't need extra credit because she got a's.
Speaker 5: Like she's focused on the assignment.
Speaker 4: Do you want to hear something very funny though, because
Speaker 4: I was thinking about this and it's so random, but
Speaker 4: it's true. This is how Tapanga would do dancing.
Speaker 2: With the story.
Speaker 4: It is, it's like I want to dance. I want
Speaker 4: to do it classically. I want to learn that steps
Speaker 4: I have to do. I want to do it with passion.
Speaker 4: But I want to do it right. I don't need
Speaker 4: all the frills, I don't need fire, Like it's how
Speaker 4: Tipega would do dancing with the.
Speaker 2: Stary, right.
Speaker 1: So the question is, at some point is Danielle going
Speaker 1: to have to go more performative yes with them, like
Speaker 1: with like a full personality only dance in week six
Speaker 1: or something for one week.
Speaker 4: She'll have to pick something that's going to be just
Speaker 4: out of the box crazy and break the.
Speaker 2: Mold for her and she'll be awesome doing it if.
Speaker 3: She wants to win, if she wants to win.
Speaker 4: Yes, which of course she does. Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: But I think that this approach is very good. It's
Speaker 1: like I said, it's very classy. It's on point. So oh,
Speaker 1: and they were dancing to Sabrina Carpenter's Manchild. They had
Speaker 1: a little little message from Sabrina there.
Speaker 2: In the beginning Carpenter's song of Eye, which was good.
Speaker 1: Like I was glad that that that was the extent
Speaker 1: of their TikTok integration. Yes, which like a message from
Speaker 1: a young young star. We're not going to try and
Speaker 1: like do a TikTok thing in the middle of our
Speaker 1: So I appreciated that.
Speaker 4: It was great. So, yeah, when her scores were were good,
Speaker 4: I thought.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little O.
Speaker 3: I think I could argue they were a little lower.
Speaker 4: So what I mean, I think they're a little low,
Speaker 4: but they're there. She's consistently improving.
Speaker 2: Yes, great. Actually, how does was this the highest score
Speaker 2: that they've gotten?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so I don't think it was a little low.
Speaker 1: When I when I saw them get seven to seven, seven,
Speaker 1: I was like eh, And then I looked back and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, this is the first time they've
Speaker 1: gotten sevens across the board and that's a yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean for the journey of it, it's good.
Speaker 5: But I think if you were going for the dance,
Speaker 5: I think I could have seen an eight seven to seven.
Speaker 2: That's I agree, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I think carry Ann, with the way that she normally votes,
Speaker 4: I think carry Ann could have thrown it eight in
Speaker 4: there personally, that's what that's I think it could have
Speaker 4: been eight, seven to seven easy that week in my opinion.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Next up was wait before we go there, we've got
Speaker 2: to do wi his deree of dance please.
Speaker 4: As you know, I have an encyclopediccknoledge of all things
Speaker 4: dance I always have.
Speaker 2: I'm just now finally being able to use it. And
Speaker 2: this week's dance was the Fox Trot.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if you're aware of this rider,
Speaker 4: but the Fox Trot was invented around nineteen fourteen by
Speaker 4: Harry Fox, who was a vaudeville entertainer and popularity dance.
Speaker 4: So after a guy and Fox, not the not the animal, Nope,
Speaker 4: Harry Fox, a vaudeville entertainer.
Speaker 2: It's funny. A lot of people think it's the animal,
Speaker 2: but I knew.
Speaker 4: It wasn't popularized by the day dance couple Vernon and
Speaker 4: Irene Castle, those crazy kids from the nineteen fourteen's The Castles.
Speaker 2: Of course, it involved into a smooth flow from what
Speaker 2: talent were they from? Were they writer?
Speaker 4: I can't tell you everything. If you don't know, you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to do some of the research on your own.
Speaker 4: They had put it involved into a smooth, flowing ballroom dance.
Speaker 4: Named after its initial trotting steps, it became the most
Speaker 4: popular social dance of the twentieth century, characterized by a
Speaker 4: combination of long, slow, and short.
Speaker 2: Quick steps set to a four to four time signature,
Speaker 2: which I'm sure you figured out.
Speaker 4: The dance later split into a more energetic quick step
Speaker 4: and the elegant slow foxtrot, a cornerstone of international ballroom competitions,
Speaker 4: while the American smooth style emphasizes.
Speaker 2: Freedom of expression in social settings.
Speaker 4: So I figured you wanted to know that this week,
Speaker 4: as everybody does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, I'm glad you just have this on the.
Speaker 4: Old tip of the castles. Those crazy foxtrott and kids, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Jordan Chiles and Ezra Sosa. Their pre show package
Speaker 1: was all about them freaking out about carry and telling
Speaker 1: them that she reminded Jordan reminded her of Tina Turner.
Speaker 1: Then she opened up about anxiety. I thought this was
Speaker 1: very the very Wilfred Ell subject. It was, Yeah, and gosh,
Speaker 1: it's just so amazing to me people that perform at
Speaker 1: this level, right at the age of whatever, fourteen or
Speaker 1: whatever it was in the Olympics and and struggling with
Speaker 1: anxiety on top of gosh, all the physical stuff, and
Speaker 1: it's just amazing.
Speaker 4: There's also different forms of anxiety. I was lucky in
Speaker 4: that my anxiety, say lucky with a small le, but
Speaker 4: my anxiety didn't hit me into my early twenties. Where
Speaker 4: a lot of people get some sort of a mental
Speaker 4: illness is when your brain starts to really form. So
Speaker 4: when you are dealing with anxiety as a young kid
Speaker 4: or a young teenager, it can be a hell of
Speaker 4: a lot worse.
Speaker 2: So that's yeah, it's really impressive what she was able
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: And then they went into their dance, which was the
Speaker 1: tango to the song Anxiety. I just freaking loved this,
Speaker 1: I thought too, this was incredibly artistic expressive. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: gave me it's just my style, like it was just more
Speaker 1: my style of like their production and that I just
Speaker 1: loved it.
Speaker 2: This was like a full ten for me. I just
Speaker 2: couldn't could she could win?
Speaker 4: She said, two really strong weeks, Oh my god, and
Speaker 4: she was really really good this week.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I just thought that I was
Speaker 2: just like, well, that's that.
Speaker 1: It was like the first time I was like absent
Speaker 1: of anything. You could take away dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: and just show me this dance and I'd be like
Speaker 1: that was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Like it was.
Speaker 1: It was expressive in a way that you know, I
Speaker 1: guess I'm just not much of a ballroom dancer person,
Speaker 1: so for me, you know, this just felt like it
Speaker 1: was coming from the heart and yet still just technically great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and then seeing her get all.
Speaker 4: Emotional, I was this was this was for me personally,
Speaker 4: This was Dance of the Night, I thought again, and
Speaker 4: I think she.
Speaker 2: Was Dance the Night last week.
Speaker 1: All the episodes so far, I'm like, well, now it's like, see,
Speaker 1: I'm still the first Robert or when Dance with the
Speaker 1: Energy and jumping off the truck, I still think is
Speaker 1: my favorite one, but she's a close second now and
Speaker 1: she's really vine for the top spot. And so they
Speaker 1: got eight eight eight, which you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: I would have given them a ten.
Speaker 2: But then I realized this, this is the highest score
Speaker 2: of the first ever YEP, first ever triple eight, which
Speaker 2: is which is good.
Speaker 4: It's kind of good they're doing this where it's not
Speaker 4: they're not giving out nine and ten. I guess they've
Speaker 4: got to earn that as you go, But I mean,
Speaker 4: how much better can it get?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: I just feel like at the end of the season
Speaker 1: they should probably go back and like re rate based
Speaker 1: on you know, like.
Speaker 2: Like us with bad episodes.
Speaker 1: Boy means were all kind of because it's like I
Speaker 1: really think, like when when when they look back, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, that probably deserved a nine or
Speaker 1: you know, a ten. It was really good, even like
Speaker 1: the first episode, like the dance you're talking about the
Speaker 1: Robert Irwin, like you know, that was great.
Speaker 2: Like they're probably gonna look back and be like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree of the season so good
Speaker 1: sign and yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 2: They're gonna they're contenders for ye all right.
Speaker 1: Next up, we had Dylan Efron and Daniella Karragach just
Speaker 1: dancing to Justin Bieber Ylan friends with yeah, and uh.
Speaker 2: These guys are great. I was. I agree. He's also
Speaker 2: so we talked on Podme's World.
Speaker 4: How I'm I hate to say this, but until two
Speaker 4: months ago, I didn't know Dylan Efron existed. And now
Speaker 4: Susan and I are watching Traders and we're watching Dancing
Speaker 4: with the Stars and he's so likable.
Speaker 2: You're you're a Dylan just root for this.
Speaker 4: Guy, I mean, you turn it into an e f ronette.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm down. I'm down for my down for
Speaker 4: my crew. Are you kidding? I'm a Dan Yete forever.
Speaker 4: But but he is just so, He's one of those
Speaker 4: guys where if he's so personable that if they can
Speaker 4: put together the dance with his personality and his likability,
Speaker 4: no one's gonna not.
Speaker 2: Vote for this guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought this is lovely and I thought they were
Speaker 1: really connected me too. And it's clear that he's he's
Speaker 1: working hard, much like Danielle. He's focusing on the things
Speaker 1: that you know, really matter in terms of ballroom dancing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and this was it just had a cool,
Speaker 1: classy style to it, and they it just it was great.
Speaker 4: So I also think, but I'm sorry, but I think
Speaker 4: both Danielle and Dylan are really kind of this quintessential
Speaker 4: example of the power of the partner. Yes, because I
Speaker 4: think they have both been put with their perfect dance partners.
Speaker 4: Who are I mean, you saw in the pre show
Speaker 4: package with her, she's like she'll push a little bit
Speaker 4: and be like, I'm your teacher here, we're going to go.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what he needs the same way.
Speaker 4: I think Danielle's getting that from her partner. And I
Speaker 4: think if you are with the wrong person, you're not
Speaker 4: going to have that same kind of effectiveness and that
Speaker 4: you can really see that with Dylan and his partner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they got.
Speaker 1: Their scores were seven, eight and eight, which good scores.
Speaker 2: Good scores, yeah, good scores.
Speaker 1: Moving on to Elaine Hendrix and Alan Burston, I thought
Speaker 1: they did the tango to the song Gnarly, and this
Speaker 1: is where I first started thinking, like, man, people are
Speaker 1: going sexy tonight. Yeah right, And then it kept happening
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, Dancing with the Stars is
Speaker 1: like going for like a progressed, sensual, sexy vibe.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm there for it, Like this
Speaker 2: is cool, man, We're you know, it's like it's not
Speaker 2: just ballroom dancing. It's like ballroom dancing.
Speaker 4: But yeah, ballroom after dark ballroom, that's what it was.
Speaker 3: It was. It was horned up the whole.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, people talk about the youngs
Speaker 1: not not being frisky, and I was like, but come on,
Speaker 1: TikTok night everything, but everybody felt a little frisky.
Speaker 4: To me, they're not frist That's the problem with TikTok
Speaker 4: is nobody has as great a life as they show.
Speaker 2: Nobody's as frisky as they show. They want to appear frisky,
Speaker 2: but they're not actually frisky.
Speaker 4: And that's why Danielle again, nothing frisky about Danielle's out.
Speaker 4: She was like a bit amish and I thought she
Speaker 4: could she could click it up a little bit, just
Speaker 4: a little bumbish. Yeah, something was slightly amish.
Speaker 3: So uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, uh, you know it. It felt a little
Speaker 1: slow to me, like technically, like I don't know, there's
Speaker 1: something a little I wanted it to just be a
Speaker 1: little more either just faster paced or something. But overall
Speaker 1: pretty great.
Speaker 2: I thought she was off the music a little bit.
Speaker 2: Is that what it was? I don't I mean, she
Speaker 2: was described a little bit. It just felt like.
Speaker 1: A little like something's missing here or like maybe it's
Speaker 1: that pop and punch thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: But she in general, she's great and they were great,
Speaker 1: and like I said, sexy seven across the.
Speaker 4: Board, yeah we're going with with with modern day analogies.
Speaker 4: It felt a little like they were on a zoom
Speaker 4: call with a slight lag.
Speaker 2: Oh so yeah.
Speaker 1: Well all right seven seven seven decent scores, still decent scores. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're doing well, all right, Whitney and Mark And this
Speaker 1: is a TikTok video star on TikTok Night Professional Dance
Speaker 1: and uh they're doing the samba to shake ass Shake guys,
Speaker 1: that's my new ringtone.
Speaker 2: Is just listening to you having to say that.
Speaker 1: Ah, oh god, I mean this is this is to
Speaker 1: your point, this is a.
Speaker 2: Pro you know, it's a professional dancer dance great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean it's it's it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to really know exactly what it is because I can't
Speaker 1: you know, the I don't no ballroom dancing. But you
Speaker 1: get to see it and you're like, oh, well, this
Speaker 1: is a professional dancer.
Speaker 2: Yes, again very sexy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the judges like she's beautiful, she seems like
Speaker 4: a really nice person, and she seems like she's been
Speaker 4: dancing her entire life.
Speaker 2: And it makes a difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah you can Yeah, you can't really tell
Speaker 1: the difference between the two of them. Which one's the
Speaker 1: which one's the dancer on the show, and which one's
Speaker 1: the guest.
Speaker 2: Which is you know, I guess a good A good thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The question is do you think people will vote against
Speaker 4: that eventually? Do you think other people will think like
Speaker 4: me and they're going to be like I'd much prefer
Speaker 4: watching somebody like Danielle or Dylan or Andy who are
Speaker 4: coming from no experience in getting better or do you
Speaker 4: think there.
Speaker 2: She's just so good that I.
Speaker 1: Think it's going to get to a point where there
Speaker 1: are four teams left and it's a complete split between
Speaker 1: those two.
Speaker 2: I think it's quite possible, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because I feel I don't think anybody would just watch
Speaker 1: the show if it was just professional dancers like this, right,
Speaker 1: and I think I would get a little boring. It'd
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, we know you can do this thing.
Speaker 1: But watching the progress, watching the growth is part of
Speaker 1: the enner payment. So hopefully the voting reflects that and
Speaker 1: people stick around, you know, And all it's going to
Speaker 1: take is one person to get voted off that people
Speaker 1: like for their personal like and Andy, and when you know,
Speaker 1: when you feel that loss of like or when Andy
Speaker 1: was in the bottom three last week.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we assume, I mean we assume, right, we
Speaker 2: don't know. You can see that they are safe this
Speaker 2: week because people people come out and vote.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such an interesting, interesting concept of the voting
Speaker 4: and the balance of when now I have to save somebody?
Speaker 4: Am I voting against somebody else? Really really kind of
Speaker 4: interesting all the way around. Yeah, I wish I understood it.
Speaker 1: More, all right, Next up Scott Hoying and Riley Arnold.
Speaker 1: This was for me the first time I really fell
Speaker 1: in love with him. I just yeah, I find I
Speaker 1: feel like he came I mean they said it like
Speaker 1: that he came out of his shell and it was
Speaker 1: you know, it was really sweet to see the video
Speaker 1: of the wedding performance that he had done for his husband. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and not only that, going back to wardrobe, when he
Speaker 1: was wearing his suit in that that dance, his viral video,
Speaker 1: he it looked great. Yeah, like a character, yes, But
Speaker 1: for some reason they haven't like his His his wardrobe
Speaker 1: I realized has not been working for him on this show.
Speaker 1: And so even this dance, which I did like, I
Speaker 1: didn't love the wardrobe. And there's something about like put
Speaker 1: him in a suit. I want to see him do
Speaker 1: like a full like tuxedo.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I'm just curious, but like
Speaker 2: I thought that Jensen h do they pick their own wardrobe?
Speaker 3: They're involved?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that makes sense, Okay.
Speaker 1: I think he just has very interesting posture, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's he's seems like he's super tall. He's super tall,
Speaker 1: but he also just has a tendency to sort of
Speaker 1: fold his arms inward in this like interesting thing. And
Speaker 1: it's really helped by like the shoulders of a suit,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like it's like there's
Speaker 1: something and because there's so much about dance that is
Speaker 1: like sort of matching and idealized, you know, body frame frame. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think it's harder for him to get there anyway.
Speaker 1: I thought this, this was just great.
Speaker 2: It was his best week. It was definitely his best week.
Speaker 1: He's feeling more comfortable, and he went from being like,
Speaker 1: for me, like someone who's not going to be on
Speaker 1: the show very long, to like, no, this, this guy's
Speaker 1: going to do it and he's working to.
Speaker 3: Ask you a question though, Yeah, is it because he
Speaker 3: was side by side?
Speaker 2: Yes, that helped. I thought the same.
Speaker 4: I thought the conversation you guys had in our last
Speaker 4: episode and I had seriously was focusing on that, And yes,
Speaker 4: I think the side by side is a big difference
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 2: But they're using it well.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that this is effective side by side,
Speaker 1: whereas like what Corey Feldman was doing in week one
Speaker 1: felt like a cop out in some way.
Speaker 5: But eventually, eventually he's got to go back and frame
Speaker 5: yes totally.
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm saying like he's getting there. I
Speaker 2: think they're figuring it out. Has he tangled yet, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think he has him in his suit doing
Speaker 4: a tango. Could be an interesting week.
Speaker 5: This was This was jazz, which is technically kind of
Speaker 5: a bit of a freeze.
Speaker 1: Right right, all right, Well they got eight, seven and
Speaker 1: seven from the judges, and then we move on to
Speaker 1: Laria Baldwin and Glebe Savchenko. And this is a kind
Speaker 1: of in the professional zone that you're talking about, where
Speaker 1: it feels like, oh, this is a dancer. But there
Speaker 1: was something a little fast and furious about this that
Speaker 1: I didn't really love.
Speaker 4: This was one of my least favorites of the night here,
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to I hope it's not because I
Speaker 4: don't just like her, because I don't know this woman
Speaker 4: at all, and so I think there's some people that
Speaker 4: just irrationally don't like Klaria Baldwin.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm hoping I'm not that person. I just felt
Speaker 2: like there was a little lack of joy.
Speaker 4: That's maybe that's what it is. I said this last
Speaker 4: time she's danced by numbers. Yeah, it's all She's hitting
Speaker 4: all the steps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like they're almost like a gritted teeth
Speaker 1: quality to it. It was like, wow, technically, sure that
Speaker 1: is great, but I don't know, Yes, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to watch you dance.
Speaker 2: That's just about I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was like you're doing the thing, but yeah, here's
Speaker 1: a little like let me do the thing and I'm
Speaker 1: going to show you my yes and you're like cool,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Which let me give you a.
Speaker 4: Quote from mash which I love to do, and it's
Speaker 4: it's Charles Winchester who's talking to a professional musician and
Speaker 4: he says to the guy, I can play the notes,
Speaker 4: I can't make the music. And I feel there's something
Speaker 4: kind of similar with her where she can hit all
Speaker 4: the steps.
Speaker 2: I mean, she looks like a dancer, but there's something
Speaker 2: there that's not there, something missing. It's really interesting, all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the judges gave seven, eight and seven.
Speaker 2: Seems like they are impressed by, you know, the technicality.
Speaker 4: Now I have a question going back to now the
Speaker 4: judges were towards the middle, if not middle end of
Speaker 4: the show, and sevens and eights are flowing more freely,
Speaker 4: whereas the first dancers we saw got a couple of sixes,
Speaker 4: and I feel like if that same exact dance happened here, yep,
Speaker 4: there wouldn't have been.
Speaker 2: A six And completely agree.
Speaker 1: Man, this is this is why, this is why I
Speaker 1: like going In the first three I would say, is
Speaker 1: not great. You want to be you want to be
Speaker 1: Later in the night, everybody's loosened up. Everybody's sort of ye,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: The judges are more free with the with the paddles. Yeah,
Speaker 4: later in the show, all right, Andy Richter.
Speaker 2: Emma Slater. I mean, I just love this guy. He's great, great,
Speaker 2: and yeah, you know he is just working really hard.
Speaker 1: And they did the fox trot to uh Northern attitude,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think that the the the judging on
Speaker 1: this was super fair because you know, I realized we
Speaker 1: haven't had a single five all night. So even though
Speaker 1: I said earlier like, oh, they seem like they're being harsh,
Speaker 1: everybody was six and up.
Speaker 2: So this was the lowest.
Speaker 1: Score of the night with sixes across the board. But
Speaker 1: I thought this was just sweet and emotional.
Speaker 2: People were crying.
Speaker 4: Susan cried watching Andy dance, and then we were watching
Speaker 4: people in the background who were literally crying behind the judges.
Speaker 2: It really was just.
Speaker 1: Like super heartwarming and lovely to see and like, man,
Speaker 1: he's just he's he's.
Speaker 2: Giving it as all. You know.
Speaker 1: I think that he realized he realized after that first
Speaker 1: week comment about the paycheck that like he doesn't care
Speaker 1: about that, you know, I mean it never probably did really,
Speaker 1: but I think that he's taking it seriously, and I
Speaker 1: think it's just showing and it's it's you just love
Speaker 1: the guy like you know, and you love them together.
Speaker 1: It's just working.
Speaker 2: It's so nice.
Speaker 1: I agree, all right, Next up, Robert Irwin, Whitney Carson.
Speaker 1: This is you know your this is your favorite so far, right,
Speaker 1: this couple.
Speaker 2: It is until this week. I frankly thought this was
Speaker 2: his worst dance so far.
Speaker 4: I thought he was trying a little hard, and I
Speaker 4: agreed exactly with what the judges were saying, where it
Speaker 4: was this weird kind of staccato motions when he was
Speaker 4: doing his side by side that weren't there wasn't a
Speaker 4: flow to it this week, and I thought this was
Speaker 4: by far his worst week.
Speaker 2: I mean, ripping off his shirt, yeah was.
Speaker 1: I mean the moment it started, I was like, why
Speaker 1: does this feel like magic?
Speaker 2: Mike?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: And then he rapped on a shirt and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: that's why, because it is here, we're at a strip club.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was just a little too far, you know.
Speaker 2: And again like I feel like everyone was going for
Speaker 2: sexy and it felt a little just like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: do we need to do this. Here's the other thing.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna rip your shirt off in the middle
Speaker 4: of the dance, give this dude's shirt back for all
Speaker 4: the subsequent interviews. Like he's standing there afterwards getting his
Speaker 4: scores and everything with no shirt on.
Speaker 2: And he's got you got tiny little nipples.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you noticed his tiny little man
Speaker 4: to mass but Susan pointed, She's like.
Speaker 2: They're tiny little man nipples. But give the dude his
Speaker 2: shirt back, yeah, or put him in a nice like
Speaker 2: a smoking jacket.
Speaker 4: Yes, something classic, something something, Because it does it gets
Speaker 4: a little uncomfortable. It's like it's like the second the
Speaker 4: second ten minutes of hiring somebody to play violin while
Speaker 4: you're on a date. You know, it's like the first
Speaker 4: song is great, and then it's like, now you're just
Speaker 4: uncomfortable with you sitting around watching us.
Speaker 2: Sound true, so true.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, just trying a little too hard. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, it felt like I could feel how young
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think he actually looks.
Speaker 1: A little older than he is, Like, I mean, he's twenty,
Speaker 1: isn't he? I know, but you know, there's just a
Speaker 1: quality when he ripped off his shirt. I was like,
Speaker 1: there's probably a part of his brain that went, oh.
Speaker 2: This was too much.
Speaker 5: But I saw great I saw a great clip online
Speaker 5: from a podcast if someone saying, is he twenty? And
Speaker 5: then someone was like, I don't know, I think he
Speaker 5: might be like thirty five, And then the other person
Speaker 5: was like, he might be seven, Like he's kind of age.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1: What I saw last night was some a young person
Speaker 1: who was used to just like going for it and
Speaker 1: always getting good feedback. And I feel like, for the
Speaker 1: first time in a good, probably humbling move, it was
Speaker 1: a little like you can't just rip off your shirt
Speaker 1: on this show, man, Like, yes, that's not the point
Speaker 1: of the show. Like it just felt a little like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it all and you don't like me
Speaker 1: because I got.
Speaker 2: A good body and was like, yes, of course, but
Speaker 2: I don't know, you don't have to agree. It was
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 4: It was by far his weakest dance, I thought, and
Speaker 4: I think, I still think he's the odds on favorite,
Speaker 4: and I think next week, I mean again, though, with
Speaker 4: this misstep, I could easily see Jordan Chiles taking over
Speaker 4: the top spot for that degree.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: So they were or Whitney or Whitney, Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight seven to seven, which seemed about right.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, a little high.
Speaker 4: It could have been triple sevens across. I did not think.
Speaker 4: This was not better than Danielle's dance. Interesting who got
Speaker 4: triple seven's. This was not better than Daniel's dance in
Speaker 4: my opinion.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, all right, Next we had Alex
Speaker 2: and val. This was just not my taste.
Speaker 3: It's all right.
Speaker 2: I was just all the It just was a little
Speaker 2: pink and goofy. The pink is weird. I don't know.
Speaker 2: There was just I was total I had a hard
Speaker 2: time judging.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, in terms of production and approach,
Speaker 1: this is just not the kind of thing I would
Speaker 1: ever want to watch, right, I know that's not very helpful,
Speaker 1: but I was just like and for some reason, especially
Speaker 1: coming out of all these like dark and sexy, it
Speaker 1: was a little just like and I was like, cool,
Speaker 1: So I feel incapable of actually judging the dancing.
Speaker 2: I guess they were great. It was fine.
Speaker 1: The judges gave them eight seven eight. I don't know
Speaker 1: an other cars.
Speaker 4: No, I feel I feel kind of the same way.
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I don't entirely remember the dance,
Speaker 4: and that's got to mean something there. But the the
Speaker 4: outfits through me. It was a little like dance sponsored
Speaker 4: by pepto bismol. Yeah it was. It was a little
Speaker 4: strange for me.
Speaker 2: This yeah, all.
Speaker 1: Right, well uh and then we went into the judging
Speaker 1: the results this was yeah, So what is shocking to me?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's just Is it really just
Speaker 4: a popularity contest?
Speaker 2: Is that all that it is?
Speaker 1: But in that case, she's in a band that's very popular,
Speaker 1: she was dancing. I mean, do you think that there
Speaker 1: was blowback for the fact that she was dancing to
Speaker 1: her own song?
Speaker 2: Would that be?
Speaker 5: But I'll throw something in just so that there's not
Speaker 5: just two hosts saying how did it happen? Okay, this
Speaker 5: is me just playing devil's advocate. Did she have one
Speaker 5: of the worst dances of the night.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, did you guys, did you guys review Andy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Right, So okay, So I guess you could argue Andy
Speaker 5: and her are the two lowest of the night in reality,
Speaker 5: even if you didn't like certain things, you're right, okay.
Speaker 1: Right, But so this is this is where Andy wins
Speaker 1: on his personality and the emotional She is somewhat in
Speaker 1: between both because right she loses. She's not one of
Speaker 1: the professionals, right necessarily, She's also not one of the
Speaker 1: huge personality like in the same way that like, you know,
Speaker 1: the Pantonics, Scott and like, I feel like she sort
Speaker 1: of just fall fell a little in between, and it's
Speaker 1: too bad because I think she deserves to stay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so then sent home? Then who would you have
Speaker 4: sent home? If you if you keep her, who do
Speaker 4: you send home?
Speaker 3: I mean, by the by the by the question depends
Speaker 3: on what you see the show.
Speaker 2: I mean, I yeah, I know that's the thing.
Speaker 5: If you're voting for best dance, Andy goes home. If
Speaker 5: you're dating for if you're voting for favorite dance, Andy
Speaker 5: can't go home.
Speaker 1: No, I guess if I just am voting on who
Speaker 1: I want to see again. You know, I would probably
Speaker 1: send Laria a home if it's just about like, do
Speaker 1: I want to see you next week and and and
Speaker 1: give you another shot at impressing me, because I feel
Speaker 1: like she doesn't need this in some way.
Speaker 2: It's like, you can dance, you can do the things
Speaker 2: I'm not. I just don't enjoy. She's a better dancer
Speaker 2: and not as good a personality. Yeah, so it is,
Speaker 2: it's what are you voting on?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: I would say I would send her home. That would
Speaker 3: have been mine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I'm gonna, if I'm going to save her,
Speaker 4: then I would have. I would have sent Hilario home
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're playing the game is dancing, which
Speaker 3: I don't know why you would, it's andy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, m hmm.
Speaker 4: And it's gonna get tough for every week. Every week
Speaker 4: is gonna get Yeah, well that's the thing. I mean,
Speaker 4: at a certain point, we're just gonna we like everybody.
Speaker 4: And yeah, there's no obvious I mean that the first
Speaker 4: two just seemed sort of inevitable, right, so now we're
Speaker 4: just getting down to.
Speaker 5: But I think this week proved because I loved Lauren's
Speaker 5: first two dances. I thought they were really good. But
Speaker 5: I think this week proves you have a bad week,
Speaker 5: you can go home, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again I don't think she necessarily had a
Speaker 4: bad week.
Speaker 2: It just wasn't as good as the other ones.
Speaker 3: I didn't like it so but I love the first two.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The construction thing was a lot so yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, all right, do you have a question for me?
Speaker 2: I absolutely do.
Speaker 4: As you know, we have started something here on podmets
Speaker 4: Tworld which is called the Strong Incentive, which is we
Speaker 4: are trying to find out exactly what it would take
Speaker 4: to get Ryder Strong himself onto Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 4: If you were calling our first two episodes, episode number one,
Speaker 4: somebody showed up at Rider's house with a briefcase. Open
Speaker 4: the briefcase five hundred thousand dollars in cash, he said no. Now,
Speaker 4: last week we added to that with the twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five Airstream Atlas with the Murphy Sweet value three hundred
Speaker 4: and seventeen thousand dollars, which I did.
Speaker 1: Look up after we discussed, and you're right it was
Speaker 1: a sprinter van.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: I still I don't like expanding camper vans.
Speaker 2: I don't want to expand out to the sides. I
Speaker 2: want my campravan to stay. It's just how it's like
Speaker 2: specific things. Okay, So here's the thing. I realized.
Speaker 4: I can't just keep adding money and pri mean because
Speaker 4: then it's just like now you're turning down three million dollars.
Speaker 2: It just gets boring.
Speaker 4: So what I have come up with is something things
Speaker 4: I think you are going to go. Oh man, So
Speaker 4: if you recall week one, you turned down the briefcase.
Speaker 4: Now it's you've turned down the briefcase and this and
Speaker 4: the sprinter van. Now we're here. Now a box.
Speaker 2: Arrives at your house.
Speaker 4: You open the box and it's Sean's original leather jacket.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're getting personal.
Speaker 4: The lost leather jacket that you had was stolen in
Speaker 4: New York. It's the original one, with a note saying
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry I took this from you.
Speaker 3: Any cash any cash in that box?
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 4: So you've got the five hundred grand, you've got the
Speaker 4: sprinter van, and now you've gotten sean original leather jacket.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: You know what's awful about this is it you're turning
Speaker 1: You're turning me against my fans because you know that
Speaker 1: they want me to have the sean jacket, and they
Speaker 1: want me to care about the sewn jarget, which about
Speaker 1: But here's I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 2: And here's why.
Speaker 1: Here's why, because I would never feel comfortable wearing that
Speaker 1: jacket in public.
Speaker 2: I feel uncomfortable wearing leather.
Speaker 1: Jackets in public because of the association with John.
Speaker 2: I want the object and I want to be able
Speaker 2: to give it to my son. You're like, that would
Speaker 2: be it's an heirloom.
Speaker 1: Yes, I care about it, but no, it's not worth
Speaker 1: the pain and humiliation of I don't know how many
Speaker 1: weeks where I would just be, Oh, I would be
Speaker 1: dying inside every second I was on that stage doing
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 2: I could not.
Speaker 4: Then you would be you would be cashing your five
Speaker 4: hundred grand in your sprinter van with your leather jacket
Speaker 4: on indyed to keep him warm as he watched you day.
Speaker 2: No, I can't do it, man, I.
Speaker 1: Can't if Yeah, because there's no it's just sentimental value,
Speaker 1: which is so lovely.
Speaker 2: But it's not worth it.
Speaker 1: No, God, it would just be it's so painful to
Speaker 1: think about it, and we try again next week.
Speaker 2: I mean, and no one about my dancing. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's just awful.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is all of the things he doesn't
Speaker 3: want to do.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you think I am not going to
Speaker 4: eventually hit something that's going to make you go, all right,
Speaker 4: I have to do it. You're crazy because I've got
Speaker 4: some stuff coming up that you can't say no to.
Speaker 2: You can't. We'll see.
Speaker 4: So we'll see, my friend, I have to give a
Speaker 4: shout out. That was actually a comment on one of
Speaker 4: our ig pages from somebody, and I was like, that's
Speaker 4: a great way to put it in there and sold
Speaker 4: and you made them exactly Well, Hey, I didn't. I'm
Speaker 4: not the one who made you hate your fans. It
Speaker 4: is what it is. But there we go, my friend.
Speaker 4: We are three in, three out.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's it for this episode of pod Meets Twirled.
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Speaker 1: four of Dancing with the Stars. We may not know
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