WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: DWTS 3403 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.120 Welcome to pod meets Twirl, the Dancing with the Stars 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.239 recap hosted by two guys who. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:17.840 Can't dance don't want to dance. 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:20.920 And I've now seen three episodes of Dancing with the Stars. 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.720 But since our best friend Danielle has joined the cast 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:24.759 for season thirty. 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:26.080 Four, we're going all in. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.720 Where Wilfred Ell and Ryder Strong aka the two dudes 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:35.160 standing next to Topanga aka Danielle Fishal's backup aka the Daniettes. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.200 Hello, Will Daniette, Hello Rider dan Yette. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:39.559 How are you. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:44.440 I'm feeling Daniette. I always feel Daniette. Yeah, is this 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.200 gonna use morning? 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.800 And she said, good, We're gonna use it like Smurf Smurfy. 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.360 You're looking Smurfy. You're looking dan Yette. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.400 Do you remember when they tried to do the other 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:54.680 smurfs the snorks? 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.600 You remember the snorts? It was underwater. How can they talk? 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:01.200 It doesn't make sense. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.920 I had so many questions about snork Village, whatever the 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:05.800 hell it was called. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.960 One woman did have one snorket too. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.200 And Smurfet there was only one one woman in the 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.560 Smurf village as well, and they're all trying not. 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:23.440 To get eaten by Gargamel. It's dark up. Think about smurfs. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.800 Most taste so good. Dude, He's willing to dedicate all 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:28.759 that time and energy, and. 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.759 I think if they're prepared, right, I try one? Yeah, 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.560 me too, Like just one? Come on, there was one 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.360 smurf there, nobody the crappy smurf or whatever that everybody 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:38.400 could have tried one of those. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:40.560 Yeah, all right. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.840 This is important stuff. At nine in the morning, Dad's 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.520 In with the Stars, Episode three, How you feeling? 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:51.800 Don't get me started. This show is starting to piss 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:53.760 me off. Shows really starting to piss me off. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.640 We're good, good, good, We're getting angry. Okay, show can 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.000 you talk about while you're angry? Do you want to 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.520 save it for when we're going through the dances? 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:02.120 Well? 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:06.400 No, I mean my overall anger with the show is 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.760 I feel like half of the cast are professional dancers. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.880 Yeah, and that pisses me. It really makes me angry. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.400 Where you get people like Dilan Ephron or Danielle or 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.600 people or or Andy where it's like, hey, look at 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.120 the progress, saying mate, this is great, And then you 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.120 get people who've been dancing their entire lives and get 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:23.440 paid to dance and it's like, come on. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.560 So it's interesting because Carrie Ann actually kind of reference 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.400 that this episode when she was sort of categorizing them 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.000 as you're in the beginner's category. Yeah, you're And I 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.560 was like, well, that's interesting, But I guess it's built 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.080 into the show. So I don't I don't know if 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.880 it pisses me off so much as it just seems 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.320 like kind of a sandwich of two different shows. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:43.280 You know, but that's the thing. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.080 It makes you wonder, if you know, can somebody I mean, 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.000 I thought, and again this is having seen exactly as 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.040 much Dancing with the Stars as you have at this point. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.240 I thought the point was like a bunch of people 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.079 who taking a bunch of people who can't dance and 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.440 teaching them how to dance. Right, if you're doing If 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.000 I'm watching Top Chef and half of them are people 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.080 who've never been in the kitchen and the other half 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.200 have gone to culinary school, right, that's not as good 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:06.800 a show to me. 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.240 It's tricky though, because somebody like Jordan, right, who's coming 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.040 in with so much athleticism. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.720 But that's not dancing. It's not dancing. 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.240 But she's clearly going to be doing different things than 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.360 Danielle is even capable of doing. Course, and yet she's 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.760 still learning how to dance to a certain degree. And 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.560 she's right, but that's different than a professional dancer, like 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.040 I would argue, you can't. And this might be a 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.080 strange thing to say, but we've talked about this before 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.280 when it comes to like magicians, where they say it's 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.800 easier to take an entertainer and teach the magic than 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.200 it is to take a magician and teach him how 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.360 to entertain. So Jordan might have physical attributes that Danielle 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.280 won't be able to do, but she'll never be the 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:45.880 entertainer that Danielle is. 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.480 But they're still on that level of dance. But this 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:49.640 is why they. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.760 Have those you know, the popular vote, right, this is 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.000 why they were the judges and the popular vote. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.600 And I guess get that there was some math. 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.800 That we did last week that kind of explained to this, 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:01.720 but it does seem like there's a fifty to fifty 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.880 split so that people, you know, have a shot even 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.840 just for the popularity and for their progress, you know, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.880 I think they're hoping that that sort of balances out 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.240 in the end as far as who gets eliminated, right. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.000 Can I ask you guys, Can I ask you guys 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.120 a question as to the argument that people make, like 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.680 against this, saying that, I mean, Hilario doesn't count because 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.280 she has ballroom experience, but that just because Whitney went 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.720 to school for dance, it wasn't in ballroom. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.520 No, and no, that's not an argument at all. 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.160 That's like saying, because I went to culinary school and 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.280 just learned Italian, I won't know how to cook Mexican. Well, 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.400 if you know how to cook, then you're already you're 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.640 already ten steps ahead of somebody who doesn't know how 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:42.080 to cook. 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.560 Yeah, I see that. I see that in baseball too. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:49.239 It's like just because you're you know, you play baseball, 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.040 you've been to bat, you can hit a fastball. Just 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:52.840 because a curve is coming, doesn't mean I don't think 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:53.520 you're better than me. 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.719 Right right, I think that the argument would be it's 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:59.040 more like taking a baseball player and making them play basketball. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:00.719 Like maybe it's I mean, I. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.600 Don't know, I don't know, but it was that coupled 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.320 with not liking any of the music, and and I'm 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.120 I'm very much not a TikTok fan. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.359 I think it's frankly destroying an entire generation of people. 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.520 So that this whole week annoyed me. 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.960 F well, okay, yeah, but the TikTok thing was really intense. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.719 It was it's not my scene and made me feel 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:21.320 very old. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:21.800 Yeah. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.080 I also just felt like kind of a giant ad 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:24.800 for TikTok. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.760 You know, can we Is anybody gonna be critical of this? No, 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:29.359 of course not. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.279 It felt like it was brought to you by TikTok, 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.279 which I guess it probably was, right, Yeah, it was. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.360 So it was just like a TikTok fest, which I 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.280 found a little you know this to me. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.440 And again people are gonna be like, there's no equivalency, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.840 but there is absolutely equivalency. This was a week brought 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.240 to you by cigarettes, Like like, literally, this is what 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.320 this would have been. But dancing with the Stars sponsored 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:49.360 by Marlboro. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:50.000 That's what this would have been. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.479 Everybody's gonna smoke before they dance, exactly. I mean that's 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:54.880 what this is to be with TikTok. 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.520 So I will say I think I enjoyed the production 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.120 of this week better than the other week, as I 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:02.200 don't disagree. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.120 I had some of the I had some problems with 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.720 some outfits this week interesting and one of them is 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:08.440 our best friend. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.320 I was really Oh, I did not like her dress. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:12.919 I did not I did not like the way she 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.320 dressed this week. I was not a fan of Danielle's 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:16.120 outfit this week. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.200 Okay for the first time, because now I'm noticing this 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:18.920 stuff and I'm like. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.720 I don't like that dress. All right, let's get into it. Yeah, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:23.320 let's do it. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:28.560 And our first up dancer are first dancing partner. Oh 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:29.520 my god, I can't talk. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.920 First, you're talking about TikTok. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.920 The TikTok, the tips, the tip of the talk talk 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:42.520 the tip, the that's tag model now j and Yan Revnik. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.520 They danced to a song which was the same one 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.640 that apparently had made her a TikTok star because she 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.000 danced right after giving birth. They showed a little clip 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.680 of her dancing around in her hospital gown. 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.400 Hospital gown. She's still doing tiktoks in the hospital. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:06:59.720 Yeah, it was, I mean, you know what I mean, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.160 this is her story, right, because she's eight kids. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:04.080 How many kids does she have? 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:04.240 No? 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.839 She gave her really recently. She's only like nine weeks 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.800 out of give me barefoot in the hospital. Weird. They 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.080 did the Chacha cha too, She's a bad mama Jama. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.680 What do you think? I actually liked it again, I 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.800 mean again, I think so. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:23.680 One of the things I noticed, especially with this dance, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.240 so we've started two weeks in a row where the 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.720 first dance has been really good, and so you're starting 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.320 high energy and we're jumping right in. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.320 I thought it looked great. Again. I wasn't a fan 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:33.840 of the song. 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.400 But then when it got to judging, wet we heard 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.120 the judging and Sue and I looked at each other 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.600 and went, oh, Okay, they're going to start getting harsher, 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.080 like they're they're going to start critiquing way. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.640 More exactly what I thought. I was like, this feels 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.400 a little low because it was like the gloves were off, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.040 like she's being held to a higher standard. 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:52.320 Now. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.200 Yes, yeah, I thought I thought it was a good dance. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:57.920 I thought it probably could have been scored a little 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.000 bit higher. Me too, me to you know, the whole 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.040 fake belly thing kind of made me uncomfortable. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.360 It was weird. I get what they're doing, you know. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.200 Obviously she's supposed to be it's a throwback to her 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.120 original video so yeah, I got it, but yes, it 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:08.680 kind of made. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.480 Me a little bit uncomfortable as well. Yeah, because on 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.800 one hand, you're like should you be dancing with that bit? 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:14.880 And then it's like, oh, it's fake. They're ripping it off. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.320 And then it's like, well, where'd the baby go? No, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:18.440 I don't worried about this. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.040 They just we went from like you know, I don't know. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.160 It's like either stick with the belly the whole dance 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:24.800 or just don't. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.680 I don't know. It's a little weird visual for me. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.040 I agree, but the dance was good. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.720 I mean they're personable, and again I think she has 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.160 she's a TikTok dancer. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:33.480 Yep. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.160 I think soever goes first is always in a bad 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:36.800 position too. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.920 I think so takeaway is like you never don't go first, 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.760 Like the judges are just not warmed up. Everybody feels, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.679 you know, it just feels like it's an unhair position. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.520 I have a big overall question for you, and producer 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.920 Jensen can jump in as well, because I Susan and 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.920 I got into a discussion about this. If you are 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.920 famous for dancing on TikTok and you get sponsorship and 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.040 you get deals, and you do all that stuff? Are 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.640 you then a professional dancer because you're getting paid to 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:06.720 do TikTok dances? 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.040 Is that a professional dancer? 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:09.520 No? 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:10.920 Can I make an argument? 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:11.480 Please? 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.160 So a lot of TikTok dances people are only dancing 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.440 from the waist up, a lot like all like these 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:23.080 big right TikTok dances are not including your feet, which 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.079 sounds weird, but it's all waist up. It's like arm 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:27.800 movements and stuff like that. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.800 So then you could you argue that Michael Flatley, lord 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.000 of the dance, who only dances from the waist down, 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:34.280 is not a professional dancer? 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:35.920 Will you? 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:36.160 Are? 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:37.280 You are getting into it? 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:38.880 I mean he moved, he moves his feet. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.280 I mean I hate to be a person who defends 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:46.600 river dance on a podcast. He does technically move his 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:47.400 feet up and down. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.160 No, no, no, But that's what I'm saying is if 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.760 it's only half of your body. So the argument for 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.319 producer Tara is that TikTok dances are only the waist up, 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.600 So Michael flat only dances the waist down. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.160 But feed are the recipe of. 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.640 Dancing, sir, aren't they? Also? 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.640 Wait, you're talking about the Vogue or something? What dance. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.520 Are you referencing dancing break dancing? 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.439 A lot of times you're doing stuff popping and locking 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:10.280 that's just up top. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:11.880 How is that not professional dancing? 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.360 Well, that's also having musicality. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.880 Right, See this is where this is where also it 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.520 starts crushing the most TikTok dancing that you're doing a 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.840 dance that somebody else has already done, like that you're 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:24.760 imitating like that. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:26.920 Don't just got to invent it, right, right? 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.839 But I think the point of TikTok most of the 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.079 time is that you somebody else has already done a 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.040 dance video and you do your. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:34.439 And someone has to be the first. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:35.840 It can't just be for like a movie or TV 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:37.920 show like there's usually a choreographer who started it. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.080 Yeah, or like somebody does a dance trend and you 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.079 like they credit them and yeah, so yeah, it keeps going. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:44.920 Right, But my original question holds. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.560 So if you become famous for doing TikTok dances, even 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.079 somebody else's TikTok dances, and you're not making billions of 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.040 you have millions of followers, and you're making millions of 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.280 dollars doing TikTok dances, aren't you a professional dancer. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.600 I mean, the argument is are you being paid for it? 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:58.800 And does that make you a professional? 0:10:59.679 --> 0:10:59.880 Yeah? 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:00.360 I don't. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.400 I mean I feel like it's something different, right, It's 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.800 not like you auditioned for a dance company. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.320 It's not like you take discipline which TikTok doesn't have. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:09.960 Or what if what if you're a writer. 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.240 What if you're a writer at home and you finally 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.240 get published in a magazine and you get paid for it, 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:15.320 Are you a professional writer? 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:15.679 Yes? 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:15.960 Yes? 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.960 So if I'm a dancer and I dance at home 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.520 and I get paid for dancing in my professional dancer. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.800 Yes, hm. That's my argument is yes you are. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.360 I mean it might be the platform might be different 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.840 than it ever has been before, but social. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.439 Media, that's what is the rule of Dancing with the 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.760 Stars that you can't be a professional dancer to be 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:36.440 on the celebrity side or it. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.760 You know, it's been vague, it's been vague. 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.600 I mean, yeah, I don't, you know, don't I guess 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.800 none of this matters and it's all okay if the 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:49.719 judges take all of that into consideration, like if the 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.040 three the three people that start are going to get 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.600 eights across the board, say, and then Andy comes up 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.559 and can get eights across the board by just improving, 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.000 then I'm fine with it, which I think we're doing. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.960 I think we're I think they're judging the journey. 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:04.680 I hope so, I hope so. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.040 But I think it seems like because when they showed 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.880 the last girl that danced that that won last year, 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.240 who was a big part of this this episode. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:16.199 Yeah, she's a professional TikTok dancer. Correct, well yeah. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:17.040 Two years ago. 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.280 Yeah, yeah, two years ago. Okay, but she never did ballroom, 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.400 so she was So that's also another argument that people 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.439 have is like growing up, you can take like hip 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.600 hop classes, jazz classes, but ballroom is completely different. 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.920 Yeah, I will to me. Are you not entertained? I am? 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.680 But the point is entertainment. The point is people what 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.800 I want to know the But it's a competition. It's 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.079 a competition. Is a competition. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.920 But I think the point is that the popular vote 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.400 balances all this out right. 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.240 Yeah, and beyond Andy wouldn't beyond. 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:49.720 Yeah, the judge. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.480 I don't disagree that they get to explain their thinking 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.000 and they are being very open, like you're a beginner 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.719 and you're making great progress. Therefore I'm going to rate 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.920 you according I'm assuming, and then somebody you know that 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.439 is a professional there like you are a professional. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.200 You can do better where you're you know, I will 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.080 better about the whole thing. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.240 If in the finals at least one of the couples 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.439 is somebody that isn't one of these professionals. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.400 I think that'll be the truth. I mean, I don't know, 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:15.640 I haven't seen the show. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.920 I feel like there's probably two tracks and then the 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.040 professional dancer wins me. 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.199 And if that's the case, right right, But if that's 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:22.040 the case, if it's. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.240 At least fair going forward, But I mean, if American 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.640 Idol becomes half people that are just looking for a 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.079 break and half people that have record contracts and that 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.920 are professional singers, it changes the show. So I'm just 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.720 I again, I want somebody like my best friend to 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.560 have as much of an opportunity as everybody else who. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:44.760 Currently currently a non professional. Is the Vegas odds onwere. 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.880 Yeah, I would agree, So that's the thing. Wait, so 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.920 that's there are Vegas odds on these or so who's who's. 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.880 The It's got to be Robert Irwin, I would imagine. Yeah, yeah, Okay, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.200 So Yeah, I'm just saying I wanted to get that 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.680 off my chest. I'm a big rule guy, you know me. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.960 I'm a big rule follower, so I want to know 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.000 the rules. And again it goes into my fantasy thing. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:04.640 I like to know the world building and what all 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.920 the rules are when I go in. So and that 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.760 was that through me this week where it's like, man, 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.920 I'm watching half professional dancers who are amazing and then 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:13.120 people who are learning how to dance. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:14.719 It seems like two different shows to me, But I'll 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.079 get over it. I'm just saying I wanted to vent. 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.560 It's an entertaining dance show. 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:22.360 It's a competition, It's an entertaining dance dance. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.080 Just go with it. God, can we move on to 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:26.000 dance too please? 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:26.280 Yes. 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.760 Laura first, like the first one, felt it was a 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.520 little low seven to six six. Then we went to 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.200 Lauren and Brandon this is they got to dance to 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:37.840 one of her own songs. 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.360 Which I thought was really kind of cool. 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.040 I don't know Fifth Harmony's music, but I thought this 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.880 dance was good, if not great. My only thing was 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.440 the weird ending at the table where she like sat 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:50.680 down at a table at the end. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.240 Well that was with her band, so she sat with 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:53.880 Fifth Harmony. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.680 Yeah, but it was just a I mean I get that, like, 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.520 you know, in concept, but like it was a weird 0:14:58.560 --> 0:14:59.240 awkward moment. 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:00.880 I was like, it didn't land hard enough. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:05.080 It was like, yeah, were you okay with the theatricality 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.640 in the beginning, like the construction vibe and all the 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:08.560 kind of stuff. 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.080 It started for I mean all the I mean, every 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.240 time they were doing a TikTok integration, I was just like, 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.160 I don't care, just get to agree the bar and 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.760 so yeah, No, this one in particular started a little slow. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.840 It had this like awkward interaction with the construction Yeah, 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:25.400 you know, and uh yeah, I mean, I mean, I 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.400 guess we can everyone's already watched the episodes, so we 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.680 can say that this is a team that got voted off, 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.080 and I thought that that was a little unfair, especially 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.120 given how much I liked them them last week, and 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.360 I thought that this week. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.120 Was I did not see it coming at all. I 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:39.960 didn't see it coming at all. I guess produce. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.480 Suitari says that was part of the music video of 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.360 the song Construction site. So for the original song, this 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.720 was I guess a nod to that, which, of course 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:47.480 you and I would not be. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.040 You know, all this TikTok stuff. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:53.280 Do you remember do you remember when the Oscars they 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.680 did the selfie at the Oscars because the selfie was 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.760 a new thing, and it was the first awkward like 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.080 integration of like, hey, what's this thing that came a 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.000 you're doing all the TikTok stuff this week. 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:04.280 This age is. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.520 So poorly it makes everybody look so old and awkward, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.720 like just don't even do it, like say, I like 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.040 a'll fond throw and then we're like, well, let's do 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:11.440 a TikTok. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:16.040