1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to another episode of fut Around 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: and find Out. I'm here with my girl a shanty, Hey, 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: a shanty. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: Hey. How are you? How are you feeling? I'm great. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: How are you feeling? I'm good, very festive. 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: As you know, the holidays are here, and so I'm 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 3: feeling really good. Christmas is my favorite holiday, and yeah, 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: it's the best time. That's why we're in these bright 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: colors representing I agree. Look at us, Look at us, 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 3: red and green, looking like some ornamous on a Christmas tree, 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: the best worments on your tree. You know what, Let's 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: talk about the fact that you have been off of 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: school and it's just been straight basketball. 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: What's that been like? Freedom? 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: It's been really nice actually to not have to worry 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: about school and just you know, go home after practice, 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: get to hang out with everyone. Been having some really 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: good movie nights. There's been a lot of discussions about 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: like like I want to make things with KK and 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: maybe Clee and whoever else wants to join, but like 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: holiday theme treats, but we'll see. But just having like 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: the extra down time to just chill and be with 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: everyone has been so nice. 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: So that's been incredible. 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: I remember during that time for me, it was so 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: much fun. And then like my seniors at that time 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: would be like, this is as close as the experience 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: you get to playing pro because like all you have 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: to worry about is playing is being with well, you know, 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: not everybody's gonna always hang with their teammates, but this 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: is the time where all you have is basketball and 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: it's like the best time ever. So I'm excited you 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: are experience in that. 34 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: Me too. So we got a fun guest coming on, 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: girl Lea, Yes we do, and I'm so excited. 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: Yes, we have a special guest, Emmy Award winning host 37 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: of NBA TV, NBA Countdown and WNBA Countdown on ESPN. 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: Also the first woman to host the NBA Draft, Malika Andrews. 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: Everybody that was so good as Shanty, that's so perfect 40 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: joining us on the pod today we have Melika Andrews. 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: Hi, thank you for being here. 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: Good morning. I'm so happy to be here. I'm so 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: excited to chat with you all. It's the best way 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: to start my day. 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: Oh, what was a pleasure to have you. 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 5: Thank you, Shanta. I'm excited. I'm excited. 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 4: Let's I mean, I am, I am, I'm a fan 48 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: of the podcast, and so I'm like a little bit nervous. 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 5: So I'm excited that usual place, right, and this is. 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: A little bit of a turning things around for me, 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 4: returning the tables. 52 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's get started our first little section. I 53 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: want it for me. 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm a book lover, so I want to get to 55 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: know I know that you're also a book lover about 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: your love of books. I read that in twenty twenty 57 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: four you had a goal. 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: To read fifty books in the year. Yes, did you 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: have a goal for twenty twenty five to just keep. 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 5: Reading in twenty twenty nine. 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 4: Twenty four, I had sort of delusional ambition with our 62 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: schedules and the way that things go reading fifty books, 63 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: and I wanted to be the turning the. 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 5: Pages of fifty books. 65 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 4: I have since ventured into the audiobook space and I 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: found it much easier to tackle to tackle fifty books 67 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: a year. But for me, I was always not good 68 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: at math, and I always loved English, right, so I 69 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: was skipping math class, don't tell my mom, and English 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: I was forward to right. And when when I went 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: to college and I was looking at what I wanted 72 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: to do, one of the criterias was maybe not so 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: many math classes. That was important to me, just because 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: I don't like things I'm not good at, and reading 75 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: is sort of always something I've devoured and stories is 76 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: always something I'm looking forward to. So anything historical fiction, 77 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: anything with a female protagonist that has sort of a 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: maybe secret, dark, complicated past that she's looking to hide, 79 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: and we are guessing through it through the middle, and 80 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 4: then there's some twistings becoming like sign me up. 81 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 5: I'm in for all of those, all of those sorts 82 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 5: of books. That is my That's it for me. 83 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like I'm going to need some book 84 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: recks because I think I absolutely absolutely read. 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 4: And I just recommended this to set started a book group, 86 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 4: and I take it as like a personal my colleague 87 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 4: Shane gu McKay, and I take it as a personal 88 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 4: challenge to I recommended the first book of the book group. 89 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: I'm not in the book group way. I'm just recommending 90 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: the book from the book group. And Nekka, her sister, 91 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: has an incredibly high bar for books, right, and so 92 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 4: she and i'd been texting. 93 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 5: I was doing some recon on what Necca liked and 94 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 5: my favorite book bok. 95 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: I wasn't sure if it was going to be exactly 96 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 4: up Neca's alley, but it's my favorite book, and so 97 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 4: I decided to take a thing on it. 98 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 5: Have you read The Women? Not Little Women, but The Women? 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 5: Is that by Kristin Hanna? 100 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: No, it's on my list. I read The Nightingale? Is 101 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: that that's her? 102 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 4: By her? 103 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: Right? 104 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: Did you love it? 105 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: Okay? 106 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: I loved the book, like loved, but sobbed like most 107 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: of the books, but that is such That's one of 108 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: the my favorite, one of the best books I've ever read. 109 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: So that's on my list. But I was like, I 110 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: need some space between reading these two books, because if 111 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: it's anything like The night Gale, I'm my heart and soul. 112 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: Can't take this. The Women will. It's it's a beautiful, 113 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 5: complicated portrait. 114 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 4: Of women in World War in the Vietnam War rather, 115 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: and how women were sort of the idea of that 116 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: women didn't serve in Vietnam, which they did. 117 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 5: But it's such a good book. It's a beautiful book. 118 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: I didn't cry quite as much as I cried in 119 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 4: The Nightingale, but The Nightingale is definitely definitely up there. 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 4: But you have to should please read women. It's one 121 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 4: of my apposute favorite books. I reread it outside of 122 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 4: the book club while the book club was going on. 123 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: And by the way, Neka, who is the Queen of 124 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: you know, she loves a good book, but she will 125 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: tell you when it's not. 126 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 5: She liked it, So I would say ten out of ten, 127 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: you have to read it. 128 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 4: But how do you you're on the road and you're 129 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 4: in buses. 130 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 5: Can you read it on a bus and you read? 131 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 5: Where do you get most of your reading done? Easy? 132 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can read. 133 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: That's a skill that I learned from going to and 134 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: from AU tournaments. I can read, do homework whatever I 135 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: need and bus, car, plane, train, any moving, a boat, 136 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: any moving, No, I'm good. 137 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 5: My bucket list. 138 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: I really want to go, which I knew someone who 139 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: went to Antarctica in the last couple of years, and 140 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 4: now I think that that would be the coolest trip 141 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: to go to Antarctica. But you have to be on 142 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: a boat the entire time. And I'm a little bit 143 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: worried because there's nowhere. You know, it's all ice that 144 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: is morphing and shifting as the planet warms, and so 145 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 4: there's nowhere to stay, right you stay on a boat, 146 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: and I'm a little bit worried about the constant. 147 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 5: Not that I get seasick, but I can't read in 148 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 5: the car. 149 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 4: That's not no good for me. I'm a podcast girl 150 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: in the car, but that's where the audio book comes in. 151 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 4: Are you a big reader like Asashanta? Are you just 152 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 4: like tearing through books. I'm not tearing through books, but 153 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: you'll tear. 154 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: I do enjoy reading, but I definitely have not been 155 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: on my reading game. 156 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: So I'm really excited to hear about this. 157 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: And I know a lot of our listeners are readers, 158 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: so we definitely need a top three recommendation. 159 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: So you know what's interesting, and I'll give you The 160 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: Women is definitely up there. The Nightingale is a fantastic book. 161 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: And I have a different book for different things that 162 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: you want to read. So the only one left I 163 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: read recently. I'm not sure it's a top three book 164 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: of all time, but it's a top page turner of 165 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: just wanting to get through and know what happens and 166 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 4: the twists and turns and did she do it? No, 167 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: she didn't, She's misunderstood. House on a cliff, someone was killed. 168 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: You want to know who did it. A young caretaker 169 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: comes and learns to sort of the true story. That's fantastic. 170 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: The Women is absolutely incredible. It's probably my favorite book 171 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: right now. 172 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: I have a list. 173 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 4: I keep them on my phoot because people asking me this, 174 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 4: like when they're looking for books, recommendations, favorite books. It's 175 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 4: for different because for different people, it's for different it's 176 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: different things. So for me, though, I started reading that 177 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: fifty books. Quest for me was because I felt like 178 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: I was spending too much time online, too much time scrolling, 179 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: too much time comparing myself, and I just wanted to 180 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 4: immerse myself in characters and stories and people and ideas 181 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: outside of my own head. And I found that that 182 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: was a mental reset button for me when I wanted 183 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: to just go down the rabbit hole. And there's parts 184 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: of that that are required, I think for the job 185 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: of knowing what's happening, of reading you know, Katie's fantastic 186 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 4: profile that she did on you recently, asy that sort 187 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: of thing. 188 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 5: I think that's. 189 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 4: Important to be on my phone and to be online 190 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: and to know what's going on and see what's happening 191 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: in the zeitgeist. But I found that that became an 192 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 4: excuse to keep going to places that didn't make me 193 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: feel my best. And so my quest to read fifty 194 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: books was also to get my screen time down, because 195 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: you know on Sundays when it says your screen time 196 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 4: every week is eight hours and forty four minutes, and 197 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: I was thinking to myself, geeze, is there not something 198 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: else that I could be doing and learning and expanding 199 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: in eight hours and forty four minutes. And so that's 200 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: where the quest of fifty books came out of, is 201 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 4: wanting to find something a little bit richer and a 202 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: little bit fuller and a little bit more interesting to 203 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: make myself a little bit mentally tougher. So that that's 204 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: where that came from. And then that's that's kind of 205 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: how that distilled down, at least for me. 206 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: What are some other recks other than the women? 207 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 5: All right? 208 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: I think top three books, and I'm reading on her 209 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: now that I might make the list, but we're not 210 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: gonna We're not going to give it to that yet. 211 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 5: This is a very difficult question. This is like asking 212 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 5: to pick children. But I think. 213 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: Three books that I've read recently in the last five 214 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 4: years remarkably bright creatures. 215 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,239 Speaker 5: The women giver of Stars. 216 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: I think I'm going to give the last one Midnight. 217 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: Library is a honorable mention. 218 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 4: Those are those are three, the Women Remarkably Bright Creatures, 219 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 4: the Giver of Stars. 220 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 5: And then I will say that five. 221 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 6: Go ahead because I've got all right, this is too hard, 222 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 6: and then we will we could be all right because 223 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 6: I forgot the women remarkably by Creatures, the Seven Husbands 224 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: of Evelyn Hugo, then Giver of Stars, and then that's good. 225 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 5: Top four, that's my fourth. 226 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: Those are listen the listener I've been asking, So I'm 227 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: glad you got it right here. 228 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: Hot from too heavy reader. 229 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,239 Speaker 5: What wait, Ezy, I gotta get yours. 230 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: Though, Okay, so mine definitely The Nightingale Seven Husbands of 231 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: Evelyn Hugo. 232 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: I loved that book. 233 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: And then my third one, I'm not sure. I love 234 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: like a good mystery, so I don't know what my 235 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: third one would be. 236 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 5: Oh, we have two. 237 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: An author that overlaps and a book that overlaps in 238 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: the Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo. And if you're looking, 239 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 4: if you're a girly looking to get back into reading 240 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: Seven Husbands of Evel and Hugo, is that is. 241 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 5: The book that you got to start with. 242 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: It's fantastic, say less, I'm the girly. 243 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,119 Speaker 2: My top three is like Harry Potter of the Sorcerers. 244 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: So thank you, Malika, thank you. 245 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: Actually I'm gonna got more shocked to even read that. 246 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: Those do me. 247 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: I read all seven books, really eight okay. 248 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 5: The seven book that was a thick I might have 249 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 5: I might have. 250 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: Okay, that's why it was really That's why I was 251 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: made into two movies. 252 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: That's why I was made into two movies. 253 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: It was there you go, seven husbands of you Goo 254 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 4: is next. That's you're gonna once you get that. It's 255 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: got a little it's got a little bit of the 256 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: historical fiction. It's got a little bit of the spice 257 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 4: that you want to read alone. It's got a little bit, 258 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 4: it's got a little bit of everything. 259 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: Well, I will definitely be following up with you both. 260 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 5: And everyone. 261 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm curious if everyone, If people have book 262 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: recommendations for me, I am all yours, especially good books. 263 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: That's my new that's my new thing. Someone asked me 264 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 4: if audiobooks count. They absolutely count one hundred percent for sure. 265 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, like you have a question about your audiobooks, 266 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: when you listen to an audio book, do you then 267 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: tell people that you read that book or do you 268 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: say I listened to it. 269 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: I listen to that book on audio, is what I 270 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: did read it? Because there are if you I think 271 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: that for me, I listened to it on audio. 272 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 5: But if there's some people the. 273 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: Only way they're able to consume a book maybe they 274 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 4: can't see, maybe they have a learning disability, and so 275 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: I don't think it's it's it's not up to me 276 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 4: to say that that's not reading. 277 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 5: I think that that absolutely is reading. But will I 278 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 5: listened to that on audiobook? 279 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: And there's some books that I think were better on 280 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 4: audiobook listening to the narrator, like From Here to the 281 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 4: Great Unknown. 282 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 5: It was good to listen to that audiobook. 283 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: I support both. That was just a common disagreement in 284 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: my household. My dad would listen to books and say 285 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: that he's real. 286 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: Say, yeah, I think you need a level of transparency. 287 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: I do do you listen to books? And if so, 288 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: on what speed? 289 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: I I The only time I've listened to books was 290 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: in high school when I had like mandatory English readings, 291 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: and like they were just so boring, Like I couldn't 292 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: read them. So I would listen on the way to 293 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: school and like to practice, I wouldn't have time to 294 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: read then, and I would read it like to or 295 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: listen in like two times speed that I couldn't. 296 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: I was like, let's go through this. 297 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 4: So I started as just a like a one speed girly, 298 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: and then I've went up to one point two five, 299 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: and then I went up to one point three five, 300 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: and I think now I'm on like one point seventy 301 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: five anything else, And I was like, I don't you 302 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: get into the album and the chipmunk the one point 303 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: seventy five I am. I do think when I read books, 304 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 4: I may, I may, I may consume them better. 305 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 5: I think I'm more careful when I'm listening to an audiobook. 306 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 4: Sometimes I realized out for five minutes and I've a 307 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: lot lot. 308 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: I want to kind of circle back there. 309 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 4: But I think it's when I I can't read in 310 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: the car, So I think that that's sort of the difference. 311 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: And when I'm commuting to the show every day, I 312 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: think that that's a good chunk of time to when 313 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: I'm commuting to the studio to make sure I'm listening 314 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: to first, I have to get through the New York 315 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: Times Daily or the New York Times headlines, then the 316 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: New York Times Daily. Then I try to listen to 317 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: something basketball, and then after I've gotten through all that, 318 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, now I can get to my love. 319 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 5: Now I can get to the audiobooks. 320 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: And that's sort of the that's the realm on the 321 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: drive to work on my thirty five minute commute. 322 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 5: So we're trying to pack a lot in. You got 323 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: to get that one point seven times? 324 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you remember all of that? That's all 325 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: You're consuming a lot of information. Okay, So we have 326 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: some fans questions that we're going to get into. 327 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 5: I love it. 328 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: The first one is when did you know you want 329 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: to start working in the sports and to shoot. 330 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: That's a good question. Probably not until college. I love 331 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: sports my whole life. My dad was a personal trainer. 332 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: I played them. I'm so, but I didn't know what 333 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: what form that looked like. I knew that I wasn't 334 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: good enough at anything particular, and I'm too competitive to 335 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: get into something that I'm not I could at, so 336 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 4: I didn't think. I didn't think that I was going 337 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: to be a professional athlete. I didn't think that I 338 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 4: was going to be a basketball player, and we talked 339 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: about books and English and how much I loved. 340 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: All of that. 341 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: That was always sort of a hobby for me. I 342 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: didn't think that I could make a living doing it. 343 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: And then when I got to college and my best 344 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: friend worked for the school newspaper, I decided I wanted 345 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: to try it and spend a little bit more time 346 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: with her. And the only opening they had was in sports, 347 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: and I thought to myself, wait a second, I think 348 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: that I could blend these two things that I loved 349 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: that I never really thought I saw intersecting, and I 350 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: fell in love with it very very quickly my sophomore 351 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: year of college. 352 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 5: It's been a heck of a ride. 353 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: And it's funny because I only ever wanted to be 354 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 4: a writer. I really really wanted to be a writer, 355 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: and working at the New York Times was sort of 356 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: my my first dream job. And then Ramona Shelburne the 357 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 4: profiles that she wrote, the Taffy Ackner sort of celebrity 358 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 4: profiles that she wrote, I thought that that was sort 359 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: of the lane I wanted to go into. Mark Spears 360 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: working for The Undefeated at the time and doing these 361 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 4: really rich profiles of black athletes and. 362 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: What then, what it means to be somebody who takes 363 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 5: up space. 364 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: And that's what I thought I wanted to do, and 365 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 4: I felt good at it, like I felt when I 366 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 4: was writing, and I could think about stories and take 367 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: the time to go over every single word again and 368 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: again and again. 369 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 5: I thought that's what I wanted to do for the 370 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 5: rest of my life. 371 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 4: So I worked in newspapers to start my career, and 372 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 4: then ESPN called and said, would you want to come 373 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: work here as a writer. First I was like, you know, 374 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: I really newspapers has been what I really wanted to do, 375 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 4: but the newspaper insist is changing. And ESPN said, this 376 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 4: is the author we can make you And I said, well, okay, 377 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 4: And that's sort of where the pivot happened for me. 378 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 5: Was it was a it was a quality of life pivot. 379 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 4: I think working in papers, you know, the it was 380 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 4: it was hard, right, It's you're constantly downsizing, and there's 381 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: news about the papers layoffs and all of these things 382 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 4: in the media landscape changing, and that made me nervous 383 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: as a you know, twenty two year old who just 384 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: wanted to have a job. And so that's sort of 385 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 4: how I made that pivot into writing for a digital platform, 386 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: and then eventually in the bubble in twenty twenty, that 387 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: morphed into more of a full time television role. 388 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: Wow do you still write? I know, you said previously 389 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: used to journal all the time. 390 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 5: I do journal, but I don't write professionally anymore. 391 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: There was a story a couple of years ago that 392 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: I did the TV interview for and I really wanted 393 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 4: to do a written piece to go along with it, 394 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 4: and I couldn't find a way in that. You know, 395 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: we need this done in a week period to make 396 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 4: it work. I will say I love editing my sister. 397 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 4: I love editing my husband, and not just because I 398 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 4: like to, you know, and but I love getting their 399 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 4: drafts and working through it with them. 400 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 5: So I do. 401 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: I do that not because they need me to, but 402 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: because they let me, because they know I enjoy it. 403 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 5: And I kind of think that someday I'll go back 404 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 5: to it. 405 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 4: I think that someday, whether it's I really want to 406 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: work on a book with an athlete, that's goal of mine. 407 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 5: And so I do think eventually I'll go back to it. 408 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: But right now, the daily I have to make myself 409 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: get back to journaling, which I try to do every day, 410 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 4: but sometimes, girl, it's hard, that's real. I need another 411 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: app twenty five hours in a day, twenty six hours 412 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 4: in a day because I like sleep. That's the other 413 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: thing is sometimes I try to do it right before 414 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: bed and sometimes just that's it. 415 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 5: We don't get there. 416 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: What was the like host thing the WNBA Draft Lottery? 417 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 5: That was fun. Oh, it was so much fun. The 418 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 5: stud buds are great, you guys Courtney and the t 419 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 5: Shaw on the show before, But that was that was amazing. 420 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 5: It was fine. 421 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: I've hosted the NBA Draft Lottery before and this had 422 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 4: a different vibe to it, which I really enjoyed. I 423 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 4: liked having all of the reps and studio. The thing 424 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 4: about the Draft Lottery is, you know that there's been 425 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 4: a drawing in a room and everyone's been sequestered, and 426 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 4: those people in the room know the results and none 427 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 4: of us do. And so when it got down to 428 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 4: the Links and the Dallas Wings, I was like, oh 429 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 4: my gosh, the Links really going to get this number 430 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 4: one pick after being as dominant as they were, and 431 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 4: it went, you know, the way that. 432 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 5: It should with Dallas's record this year. 433 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 4: But how was watching the draft lottery for you, ezy, 434 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: Because I think that like you could be the number. 435 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 5: One pick where you hoping or watching it live where 436 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 5: you're just like, I'll just wait until later. 437 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 4: I've always curious what it's like for the for the players, 438 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: if they were like, oh, this is where my future 439 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 4: could be, or if you can't put that kind of 440 00:20:59,400 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: pressure on. 441 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: Your I actually thought about not watching it because, like 442 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm and I've been very intentional this year about not 443 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: letting myself get wrapped in the future and what's next, 444 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: although that is coming, but I've really worked on saying present. 445 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: And so we had just gotten back from a trip, 446 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: so I did end up watching. I made KK stay. 447 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: I was doing some recovery before I went home. We 448 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: watched it together and it was I mean, it's weird 449 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: watching knowing that like that is my future, that you know, 450 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 1: hopefully things go well and hopefully like one of those 451 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: teams will drop me, but just knowing that that is 452 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: coming and like a few months really not that long, 453 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: like that is it was very insane to think. 454 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 5: Is it kind of like I imagine this is what 455 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 5: it's like. 456 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 4: I don't have children, but when you say, you know, oh, 457 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: are you you'll be happy if it's a boy or 458 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: a girl, when when as long as a child's healthy, 459 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. But then in your mind you're kind 460 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: of like, I really want this or I really want that. 461 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 4: Is it sort of like I'll be happy no matter what. 462 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: But there's a small part of me I maybe you 463 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 4: feel something you weren't necessarily expecting to feel when that 464 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 4: comes up. 465 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: That's actually funny. I feel like that's a really good comparison. 466 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: But with that, it's just the same, like you don't 467 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't have a say and where I get to go. 468 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: And so I feel like, no matter what team where 469 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm drafted, there's going to be pros and con siege, 470 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: and I'll make sure to find the pros and all 471 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: of it. 472 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: If it's Texas, you got some great barbecue. 473 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 5: If it's Minnesota, some cute jackets. 474 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: Because in the summer, so it will be. 475 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: If you're spending any time outside of the season in Minnesota. 476 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: I mean they got likes and stuff. 477 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 5: You know, Goose if you gotta like it, I mean you're 478 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 5: probably on the Canada Goose Blands. It was fun. I 479 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 5: really enjoyed it. 480 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 4: And I'm looking forward to doing more with the w 481 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 4: you know, coming up in the future, because women's basketball 482 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: it's just it's fun, it's and I love all basketball. 483 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 4: But there's a different whenever I go to when we 484 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 4: were at the when we took NBA to day to 485 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 4: the w NBA Finals for the first time ever this 486 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: past year. There's just a different energy, a different frequency 487 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: to it that I really enjoy being around. And you know, 488 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: I do fun things with my style is like we 489 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 4: only wear female designers for the WM coverage that we do, 490 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 4: and so there's just a different there's a there's sort 491 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: of an appreciation for the style that's a little bit different. 492 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 4: There's a fundamental to the game that's a little bit 493 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 4: different and cleaner, and you know, so I'm I really 494 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: enjoyed it, and I'm hoping you know, we didn't take 495 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: NBA to Day to the w NBA Draft last year 496 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 4: just with the timing of everything, but I'm thinking in 497 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: the future that's something. 498 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 5: That we're going to We're going to need to do. 499 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, yeah, it's absolutely so, Malika. We usually ask, 500 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: you know, some of the players who come on what's 501 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: their welcome to the league moment? 502 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: For them. 503 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 3: So as a reporter, what's your welcome to the league moment? 504 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 5: Oh, I've had a couple, I have a couple. You can't. 505 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 5: You can't. You know, if you don't play. 506 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 4: You're not going to get dunked on and put on 507 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: a poster if you don't play defense. 508 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 5: Right, So that's. 509 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: That's one way to put it. 510 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 5: I'm going to view this last half full. 511 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 4: I think, you know, probably the biggest one that I've 512 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 4: learned from. And I've gone to Jannis and I've told 513 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: him how much I learned from this in the past. 514 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 5: Was in what year was that, twenty eighteen maybe twenty nineteen. 515 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 5: It was my first year as a beat reporter. 516 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 4: I'd written about like right after the Bucks lost in 517 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 4: the conference finals to the Toronto Raptors. I'd written that 518 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: Joannis was evaluating his future and it may lie outside 519 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: of Milwaukee. Now, this seems like, you know, in the 520 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: face of the news in the last couple of weeks, 521 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: this seems like old news. 522 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 5: But at the time that hadn't really been written. 523 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 4: And I wrote that, and I'd asked my editors if 524 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 4: we could wait to put they at the time, they 525 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: really liked to publish things like at the buzzer, because 526 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 4: that's when it's going to get the most eyeballs, and 527 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: I felt like that was a little bit sensitive maybe 528 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: to run at the buzzer, but I was a first 529 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: year reporter. 530 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 5: I wasn't going to push back that hard, and so they. 531 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 4: Ran it at the buzzer, and I knew in the 532 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 4: press conference afterwards that I wanted to make sure that 533 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: I asked Jannis a question because in that time, the 534 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 4: locker room wasn't really open. They were trying to make 535 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: sure that, you know, in the face of losing, it's 536 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: not exactly the time too want to chat with everybody, 537 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: and so I knew I wanted to ask the question 538 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: because I wanted to make sure that he saw that 539 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 4: I was there so that if he was upset, he 540 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: could let me know, because I think that that's the 541 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 4: right thing to do. I got the last question, and 542 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: that those press conferences are on camera, so they turned 543 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 4: the camera to me and I asked some innocuous question 544 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: because I knew literally was. 545 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 5: Just trying to show up and just say, hey, I'm here, 546 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 5: and I know that this thing just ran and you're 547 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 5: probably not very happy with me. 548 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 4: But I asked him something about you know that they 549 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: I don't remember they'd said some things about the run 550 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 4: and what the experience maybe doesn't matter and doesn't matter 551 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 4: now that you're looking at and I'm asking him the question, 552 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: and be Honest gets up and he walks out of 553 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: the room, and Chris Middleton like he became a meme 554 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: and he's. 555 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 5: Like, what just happened? 556 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: And I was so I felt so terrible, And you know, 557 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: of course that goes everywhere, and you know. 558 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 5: People filling in the gaps of how he feels about. 559 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: And we've talked about it since, and I've told him 560 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 4: I would what I would have done differently, and he's 561 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 4: told me what he would have done differently. We were both, 562 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 4: you know, I was twenty two, he was twenty two. 563 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: We were both just kind of trying to figure it 564 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: out and figure out our jobs. 565 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 5: But at the time, it was like. 566 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 7: Everywhere from from viral all the things like Honest walked out, 567 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 7: blah blah blah, and I I definitely He reached out 568 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 7: to me later that night actually and told me and 569 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 7: he apologized and I said when I like, I said, 570 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 7: I would have done differently, But at the time, getting 571 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 7: walked out on in a press conference. 572 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh, so yeah. 573 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 8: That was probably my first welcome to the welcome to 574 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 8: the league moment, a welcome wow. Yeah, So if you 575 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 8: want to look that up. 576 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 5: After I felt like, you know, the walls are kind 577 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 5: of closing in on you. 578 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 4: I like went to the bath room and had to 579 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: like gather myself a little bit because I felt I. 580 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 5: Felt pretty bad. 581 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: And and again like it's a good but it's a 582 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 4: good you get dunked on so you can learn how 583 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 4: to you know, be in better position and rotate better. 584 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 5: Right, So that's what that's what I did. 585 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, look at you now. 586 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 5: And let's yeah, like always go back and have the conversation. 587 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: Always go back and say close done differently, yep, close the. 588 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Loop, Malika, Who is your starting five for current women's 589 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: college players? And it doesn't have to be like the 590 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: best player is just your favorites? 591 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 5: Oh that's a great that are currently can I And it. 592 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be me. I won't be offended. 593 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 4: No, I was going to say, asy, I'll put your can. 594 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 5: I put you in there even if you do. 595 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: Playing right now, because I think that she when she 596 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: is playing, it's one of those things where like I 597 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: can't wait for her to come back and living in 598 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: Los Angeles and going to those games is absolutely electric. 599 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: I'm going to say, uh, Lauren Bett's amazing, incredible. 600 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 5: I am going to say that's three, or that's that's three. 601 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's three. 602 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say Audie mm hmmm. 603 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 4: We covered her on the show the other day and 604 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 4: her story was, I mean, with her with her father 605 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 4: and just absolutely credible and by the way, like you 606 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 4: don't want to get her on the post amazing. 607 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 5: And then you know what we're gonna go with. We're 608 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 5: gonna go with KK. We're gonna show KK for love. 609 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: I love that the. 610 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: First time we met, we met was with a Z 611 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: and I met KK was there as well at the SBS. 612 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 5: So we'll go with that. 613 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: How's that for my That's I think we might have 614 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 4: some redundancy, but we were gonna, we're gonna we're gonna 615 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: tack up some ws. 616 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: Oh for sure. 617 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: That seemed like, I know, you got a little squad 618 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: definitely scoring one hundred plus points a game though, and. 619 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 5: No one scoring. 620 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's gonna like ve and then no 621 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: one's scoring, no one scoring on. 622 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 5: Our on our on our on our front court. There 623 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 5: that's a fun locked out. 624 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: So now we're going to get into our what the 625 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: fun of the week? 626 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: What the fun of the week is something that happened 627 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: this week that made you say what the fun by? 628 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 5: What the fed of the week? 629 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: Was the Oklahoma City Thunder getting eat by Fisherwnbnyama and 630 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: the San Antonio Spurs in their return in the NBA Cup. 631 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 4: It was their only their second loss of the season, 632 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 4: and it was I was on the edge of my 633 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 4: seat for that game. 634 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 5: I there's few things that I. 635 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 4: Enjoy more than watching a goliath battle with a young, 636 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: hungry up and coming they got next type of squad 637 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: and that game, I mean that was that was awesome. 638 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 5: That was an awesome game. 639 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 4: So that that would be my The Oklahoma City Funder 640 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: racking up their second loss of the season, awesome win 641 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: by the Spurs. That definitely some of the things anytime 642 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 4: Big is on the court, I don't know how you 643 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 4: don't say what the fun I've never seen. 644 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 5: What he can do at seven foot five. 645 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 4: That was That's that's probably if we're sticking in the 646 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 4: hoops world, that's my that's my what the fud? 647 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 2: My what the fun is? 648 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: From last week after the USC game, someone had me 649 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: sign a Dallas Wings jersey and I thought it was 650 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: I just always assume it's paid jersey, and like, was 651 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: just signing things fast, was paying attention. I didn't realize still, 652 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: after my grandpa sent me a picture and it was 653 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: someone with a FUD thirty five Dallas Wings jersey, and 654 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: I was just shocked. 655 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: I was like, what the fun? Like, how do they 656 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: have this already? 657 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 5: That's a good one. 658 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: So I thought that was crazy. 659 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 5: That's wild. 660 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: I love that I have a what the fun of 661 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: the week? Okay, but honestly, this what the fun of 662 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: week is? 663 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: Oh? 664 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: Every week acis pop buff Oh gosh, it's not crazy. 665 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: He's not crazy. He's always taking these fun pictures like 666 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 3: during the games or like after the games. And I 667 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: just want to say, I finally made the Instagram. 668 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I finally made it. He's like a he's big time. 669 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 5: Okay. 670 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: I remember I saw him. He was like one point 671 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: two million views or something like that. I said, Okay, no, 672 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, he's so fun. He's such a joy 673 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: to be around. Like that is definitely not with the 674 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: fun and sometimes his pictures are hilarious, like no, no, no, no, 675 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: they're hilarious, off guard. Sometimes I understand why you don't 676 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: love them, but it makes my day to see his posts. 677 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: So that's definitely not with the fun. 678 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: I love that, we love, we love sweet sweet parents. 679 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 4: We love that I do sweet adorable parents. 680 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: All right, well that is all we have today, Malika, 681 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 682 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: This was so much fun. I enjoyed literally every second 683 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: of this. 684 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 5: I did too. 685 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me, and I feel 686 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: like we I was so into the books that this 687 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 4: has to be a part one of a part two. 688 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 4: We're going to answer more questions in part two. But 689 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 4: I appreciate you ladies having me. 690 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, seriously, I got to whip up my Goodreads 691 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: and add all the books that you brought up. 692 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 5: Let me put you on. Got to get on Libby, 693 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 5: l Ibby. 694 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, Thank you, damn, thank you so much, really. 695 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you and everyone. 696 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening today. Don't forget 697 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: to rate, review and subscribe to fut around and find 698 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: out wherever you get your podcasts. We will see you 699 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: guys next week. Futt around and find Out is a 700 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: production of iHeart Women's Sports and Unanimous Media. Executive producers 701 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: are Jesse Katz, Eric Payton, Charla Sumter Brugette and Stefan Curry. 702 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: Co executive producer, It's Klena Maria Cutney. 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