1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ Bucky 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: back together. Buck. This is a fun episode. Look forward 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: to it every year where we preview these conference championship 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: games and see if we can't learn something from how 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: those teams were constructed. So we'll get a chance to 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: jump into that in just a little bit. But we 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: do have some newsy items as well as some draft 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: stuff I'd love to get to here right off the top, 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: including a couple of coordinator hires. Um. Let's start first 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: of all here Buck, Alabama. Uh, they lose their coordinator, 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. He goes back to the New England Patriots, 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: where he once was seen screaming and yelling at Tom 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Brady on the sideline once upon a time seems like 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: a million years ago, but has a relationship with Mac Jones. 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: He's the new quarterback coach and o C for the 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: New England Patriots. Your thoughts on that one? Best of 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: both worlds for Bill Belichick. Uh. The reason I say 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: that is because Bill O'Brien is well versed in the 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: old Patriots offensive system. That system has been the same, 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: Uh since what two thousand when they took over. They 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: became kind of the evil Empire in the National Football League. 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: And one of the things that people have always talked 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: about the consistency of the system because you have a 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: defensive head coach and Bill beliship. But they were somehow 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: able to keep the system the same, many different coordinators, 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: but it didn't matter because they had the same playbook 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: for all the players. Uh. You got comfortable in that 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: system and you had a lot of success. This year 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: they try something new mad Patricia Joe Judge kind of 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: handling the responsibilities also with Mac Jones, and it didn't 32 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: quite work out. Well. Now you have Bill O'Brien, who 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: not only knows the system, but he knows the player. 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: And if we talk about the quarterback being the most 35 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: important piece of the puzzle, you want to give him 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: someone that he has familiarity with, someone who has history 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: with him, someone who knows his strengths and weaknesses as 38 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: a player. Well, Bill O'Brien knows that. And so now 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: you think about building Mac Jones back up while being 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: able to just kind of get everything back on track. 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Bill run was the right choice for his job, and 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: so I think you can expect the page is to 43 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: be more efficient, more effective on offense because they have 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: someone who knows exactly what he's doing. I think it's 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: nice just you have a singular voice, you know. I 46 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: think one of the things that happens, especially with young quarterbacks, 47 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: when you have a bunch of different voices in their ear. 48 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a bad thing. I think having that 49 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: singular voice voice here, there's no it's not nebulous. You're 50 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: not wondering who is it? Is it? Patricia's at Joe 51 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Judge like, who's he dealing with? Who's calling the shots here? Um, 52 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: it's very laid out right now, and there's a history 53 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: between those guys. I think anytime you can hire somebody 54 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: with your quarterback that has a scheme, familiarity, that's a 55 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: that's a bonus. Anytime there's a relationship history, that's a bonus. 56 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: When you marry the two together, I think it's a 57 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: home run. So I don't know that they could have 58 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: made a better higher there in New England. I know 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: we had all heard the rumors and stories about how 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: frustrated Mac Jones was last year. You know, I heard 61 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: stories about him talking to his old coaches out with 62 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: the Raiders and in voicing kind of some frustration about 63 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: the way things were going there in New England. But 64 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: I think this as good as can be expected. Um, 65 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that they could have made a better higher. 66 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: I love this move for the Patriots and for at Jones. Yeah, 67 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I agree. Um, it was a great move because one 68 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: Bill Brunn has experienced in a few different areas. One, 69 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: he's been a head coach before, he's been the offensive 70 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: coordinator under Bill Belichick. And if you're Robert Kraft, maybe, 71 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: just maybe, as you begin to think about Bill Belichick 72 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: over seventy this and that, maybe I need to put 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: a secession plan in place. So maybe I also have 74 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: that in mind when I make Bill O'Brien come over 75 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator. Pam Hans will need to take over 76 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: and rebuild this offense. Maybe I do that when or 77 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: not to the future of him eventually maybe taking the 78 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: torch from Bill Belichick whenever Bill Belichick decides to retire. Alright, 79 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: another higher. Again, we had ten offensive coordinator openings, so 80 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: these seats are starting to fill up a little bit now. 81 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 1: Another one that just came down right before we started here, 82 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett is going to go to the Jets, and 83 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: everybody is connecting dots here. Obviously we know the fail 84 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: year that he had as his brief tenure. There's head 85 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: coach of the Denver Broncos. But previously had I had 86 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: been in Green Bay and had a great relationship with 87 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They're very close. Aaron Rodgers gone out of 88 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: his way to praise him. Um. And now with the 89 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: Jets going on the record saying they want to bring 90 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: in a veteran quarterback, you hire a coordinator who has 91 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: a previous relationship in history with Aaron Rodgers. I mean, 92 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: I think it's natural that those dots are being connected 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: and people are saying, hey, maybe this is uh, maybe 94 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: this is the first of two big moves here for 95 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: the Jets. Your thoughts on him, uh and the job 96 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: that he's done throughout his career. There's been some ups 97 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: and some downs for sure, as well as what you 98 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: think about what this means for the future at the position. Okay, 99 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I'll work in reverse order, Like it's great that he 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: has a connection with Aaron Rodgers. We can have the 101 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: speculation about Aaron Rodgers falling in Brett Farves tracks going 102 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: from the Green Bay Packers to the New York Jets 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: at the end of his career, and maybe that is 104 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: something to be true. I am surprised though, with Nathaniel 105 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: hack had, particularly given all of the issues that the 106 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos offense had. I'm surprised that he lands I 107 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: won't say a plum job, but a really good job 108 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: right away as an offensive coordinator. Perhaps the connection, uh, 109 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: you know how Robert Sala and the floors are all connected, 110 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: and Nathaniel Hackett served as an offensive coordinator under Mike 111 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: la floor and and and all of that Matt la floor, 112 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: so you you have all of that. But I just 113 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: wondered when you look at his body of work. He 114 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: did have success briefly, uh in Jacksonville with Blake Bortles, 115 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: and so maybe if you think about trying to repair 116 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: or fix whatever you have in Zack Wilson or wherever 117 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: they decide to be quarterback, maybe that works. But coming 118 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: off of that last exhibition where we saw him directing 119 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: an offense, it wasn't very impressive. And so if you're 120 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: the New York Jets or Jets fans, you certainly have 121 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: to wonder How is this going to help elevate this 122 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: offense When the lasting memory that you have is a 123 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: guy who struggled with game manage meant play call is 124 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: sequencing all those other stuff. It is a bit of 125 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: an indictment on him. Yeah, you know, the fascinating thing 126 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: to me is this you know, is this part of 127 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: the plan. Is this the Aaron Rodgers avenue that they're 128 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: going to go down? Um? If it is d Aaron 129 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: Rodgers thing, then I think you can make some more 130 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: sense of it. Um. If you're just stacking up hack 131 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: it with all the other potential candidates that you could have, 132 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: assuming you know it's a different quarterback, I think there 133 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: might have been some better options out there. Um. But 134 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, hey, we'll see how this goes. We gotta 135 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: wait and see who the quarterback is and what that 136 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: relationship looks like. It would make things very appealing to 137 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Wouldn't have to learn a new offense coming 138 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: there in the system. He's he's been playing in the system, 139 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: he's had success, He's one m vps in Um that 140 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: would be appealing to him. I think I would be curious, 141 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, if there is a potential of him being traded. Uh, 142 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: I would want to have that conversation on the jet 143 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: side of things, um with Aaron Rodgerson. Oh, hey, like 144 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: this is this? Is this? You know, just you know 145 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: you kind of finishing out the ring or is there 146 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: is there a rekindling of the fire and you have 147 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: a desire to go chase a championship here in your 148 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: last couple of remaining years. If you get a sense 149 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: that there's a fire burning there and he's going to 150 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: invest in a new team in the off season and 151 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: actually be around a little bit, and you pair him 152 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: up with his former coordinator, I think I think it 153 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: could work. I think it absolutely could work. If this 154 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: is gonna be he's out of the country and he's 155 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: gonna show up at training camp, I don't like that, man. 156 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: I there's other areas I would rather go. I would 157 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: rather go in a different direction. Derek Carr would probably 158 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: be that direction that I would be interested in heading in. 159 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: I'd rather have an all in Derek Carr than a 160 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: show up at training camp and Aaron Rodgers. And that's 161 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, fully admitting what Aaron Rodgers has done in 162 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: his career or compared to car. But that's That's that's 163 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: my opinion on that one. Buck. Yeah, the the Aron 164 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: Rodgers situation is is tricky because I understand what you're 165 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: trying to bet on. You're trying to bet on a 166 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: four time m v P just helping your office become 167 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: good enough to support a defense that's played pretty well. Uh. 168 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: The issue that I would have with Aaron Rodgers he 169 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: hasn't shown really a great ability to develop young receivers 170 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: or they have that connectivity. We talked about the criticism 171 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: that was levied at the package young receivers throughout the 172 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: course of the year. So now you jump into another 173 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: situation where you do have to be a a very young 174 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver room. You have Gary Wilson and Elijah More 175 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: and all those other guys like they're going to look 176 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: to the quarterback forgotten. So as you talk about being 177 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: invested in the process, is Aaron Rodgers going to be 178 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: invested in spending more time around the team that might help. 179 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: That's New York as opposed to Green Bay, Wisconsin, and 180 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: so maybe he can kind of, uh sample the life 181 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: in the city and all those things. Um, but that 182 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: part is what I'm more concerned about. The leadership ability 183 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: to connectivity. Uh, maybe the level of a commitment. Is 184 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: he going to be all in with the Jets if 185 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: he does decide to make that move again, that's Uh, 186 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating to see where the Jets going, 187 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: what happens there with their future there at the quarterback position. 188 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: But the coordinator is in place and it is Nathaniel Hackett. 189 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: A little draft buzz here, Buck and then we'll and 190 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: then we'll move on here, take a break, come back 191 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: and talk about these conference championship games. I was talking 192 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: to an executive yesterday and we had this discussion talking 193 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: about this quarterback class, and it's a it's a fascinating one. Right. 194 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: There's no there's no Joe Burrow. Uh you know, a 195 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: consensus number one quarterback. There's no Trevor Lawrence consensus number 196 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: one quarterback there those years when that guy is out there. 197 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: This year, it's very much an open race here. It's 198 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: very competitive to see who that guy is going to be. 199 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: And I was talking to an executive and he said, look, 200 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: everybody's talking about the Big three and we're talking about 201 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: Bryce Young, talking about c. J. Stroud, and you're talking 202 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: about Will Levis. He said, I would not remove Anthony 203 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: Richardson from Florida from that discussion. He belongs in there. 204 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: All these guys are flawed and if you're gonna chase 205 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: the ceiling, if you're gonna chase the ceiling and say, man, 206 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, hey, we want to take our time to 207 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: develop a guy, but we want this to eventually be 208 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: able to pay off in a big way. And you 209 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: look at some of these as we call in these 210 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: cyboard quarterbacks we have right now. He's got a chance 211 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: to be one of those guys. Now, there is a 212 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: lower floor, there is a lot more risk involved there, 213 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: but his upside of what he can do is on 214 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: a different level than the other three. I thought that 215 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: was fascinating. I don't think uh people would uh would 216 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: anticipate that happening. But he was like, hey, I wouldn't 217 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: rule him out as coming through this whole process. If 218 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: he emerges is the as the first quarterback to go. 219 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: Not even saying he could be the best, he said, 220 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if somebody, you know, punched his 221 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: ticket to be the first quarterback in the straft. So 222 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: that was a fascinating conversation that this sounds fascinating it 223 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: is a fascinating discussion. There a couple of things when 224 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: it comes to you, uh, Anthony Richardson that I would discuss. One, 225 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: the tools are off the chart in terms of just 226 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: a physical ability to physical dimensions. What he brings to 227 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: the table big time arm uh, outstanding athleticism, running skills. 228 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: You think about the new school quarterbacks that are in 229 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: that hill. You think about Lamar Jackson then, uh, justin 230 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: fields and what they were able to do single handley 231 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: to the offense. Just by adding that explosive running ability 232 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: to the offense. Yeah, there's certainly some intrigue for a 233 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: team that is looking for a spark at the position. 234 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: And then you go and you dig down deeper and 235 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: you think about, okay, well, how can those tools translate 236 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: to success beyond him being a runner? And you think 237 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: about the teams that have gambled successfully on their quarterbacks 238 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: and saying, hey, I'm a bank on this guy's ability 239 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: to develop into something that our imagination says in this 240 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: meeting room. And so you think about the Josh Allen's 241 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: of the world. You think about Lamar Jackson and what 242 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: those two guys were able to do, and no one 243 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: thought that they were going to amount to high end quarterbacks. 244 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: Even though Josh Allen was taken at the top of 245 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: the board, he has so many flaws that showed up 246 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: in his tape you just didn't know. And then I 247 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: think the other guy is Pat Mahomes. Not in terms 248 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: of stylistically them guys being the same, but I think 249 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: everyone has to go back and listen to the conversation 250 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: around Pat Mahomes. When the Kansas City Chiefs boldly traded 251 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: up to get him, he was more of a satellite player. 252 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: You hadn't seen those kinds of play is coming out 253 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: of Texas Tech translate successfully or transition successfully into the 254 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: National Football League below and behold he goes to Andy Reid, 255 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: creative offense, right supporting staff, He pops. And so when 256 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: you think about these quarterbacks, it does require you to 257 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: be a little more imaginative when it comes to making 258 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: the projection because you put them in the right environment, 259 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: surround him with the right players, who knows what they 260 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: could become. That's how you're having a great these quarterbacks 261 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: in today's game. Yeah, no, it's gonna be a fascinating 262 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: ride here with these qbs. Um as we head towards 263 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: the draft. I wanted to throw that little nugget out there, 264 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: and we'll we'll keep monitoring that, keep working on it. 265 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: I know, I watched all of his explosive runs and 266 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: it's eight yard touchdown run, it's sixty yard touchdown run, 267 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: and running over people, running away from people, and I'm like, Okay, 268 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: he's big. He's got an absolute cannon. Um, he's an 269 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: unbelievable athlete. Now there's some worm burners on swings and 270 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: you'll see some throws completely get away from him and 271 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: his feet will get all out of whack. But twitched 272 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: up explosive dynamic. There's, uh, there's something to work with there. 273 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: With Anthony Richardson, will be fastening to see how we 274 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: come through this process and how these quarterbacks stack up. 275 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. When we 276 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: come back. We're gonna jump in and preview the conference 277 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: championship games to very evenly matched games to uh two 278 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: that are really looking forward to watching this weekend. We'll 279 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: jump into those right after this. Titans Hall of Famer 280 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: and Tennessee State head coach Eddie George face off against 281 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: his former NFL coach Jeff Fisher. As some of the 282 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: best up and coming draft eligible players get ready to 283 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: show off their skills for NFL teams. It's the eleventh 284 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: annual NFL p A Collegiate Bowl, Saturday, January six pm 285 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: Eastern only on NFL Network. We are definitely in draft 286 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: season as we get these all Star games underway. Buck's 287 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: gonna be at the East West Shrine of all the 288 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: all the goodies there, all the reports on those players. 289 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: Will be talking about that on a further episode. I'm 290 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: gonna be at the Senior Bowl. We'll talk about those 291 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: guys as well. But Buck, we do have two big 292 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: games this weekend, including the NFC Championship Game. This is 293 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: gonna be I guess slobber knocker is a good word. Uh. 294 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: Two of the most physical teams in the NFL, the 295 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: Niners going on the road, Uh, to take on the 296 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Keys to this one. What do you think, man? 297 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: This is a great game to watch. DJ is one 298 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: of the ones that we've talked about all you You 299 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: talked about two teams and coming into the game with 300 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: impressive win streaks, and then you think about the way 301 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: these teams are built. Let's start with euro team the 302 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. You're talking about investing in trench warriors. That's 303 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: what the Philadelphia Eagles have done. You look at their 304 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: offensive and defensive lines. They dominate at the point of 305 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: attack on both sides of the ball, and so they 306 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: can run the football when they want to. Their great 307 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: and pass protection. And then on the other side, man, 308 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: they just have a bunch of sack artists. Getting after 309 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: first NFL team in history to have four guys with 310 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: ten or more sacks. Uh. They nearly caught up with 311 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: the Bears to break their record. This is a dominant, 312 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: dominant unit. Um, it'll be tough for the San Francisco 313 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: forty nine is because they're one of the teams that 314 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: can go toe to toe with them from a physicality standpoint. 315 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: And when I look at Jalen Hurt says deleted. Because 316 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: this game is ultimately gonna come down to quarterback play. 317 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: I just give him the not over Brock Purdy because 318 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: of the dimension that he brings as a runner and thrower. 319 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: A little different than Brock pretty but this is the 320 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: fascinating game to watch. You know he's gonna enjoy watching 321 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: this game. Is Jim Washburn legendary defensive line coach. He's 322 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: got his protege on one side, and Chris Kisserk with 323 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: the forty Niners. He's got his son, Jeremiah Washburn working 324 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: with those edge rushers for the Eagles. Both these teams, 325 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: they deploy his jet front where they are getting wide 326 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: and they are flying up the field and playing that 327 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: attack defense Buck. It's again mirror images of one another 328 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: with these two squads. I like the Eagles front collectively better. 329 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: I think they have waves of guys. I think they 330 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: have better rushers across the board. But make no mistake, 331 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: when you have Bosa and Armstead, I mean that's a 332 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: that's a big time combo that they have there as 333 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: well in San Francisco. I also think, I mean, you 334 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: give me your thoughts on this when I know they 335 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: can move the pocket with Brock Purdy, but I think 336 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: the threat as a runner of Jalen Hurts, when you're 337 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: playing against a really good front, I think that can 338 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: slow them down just a little bit, maybe a little 339 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: more uh than Brock Purdy's athletics. He's a good athlete, 340 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be able to slow that front 341 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: down quite like Jalen Hurts will. Yeah, it's different it's 342 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: a different deal because the thing that you're looking at 343 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: with the forty Niners, uh, they're using brock Purdy on 344 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: the back side of bootlegs. He's not really involved in 345 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: the running game as a quarterback on quarterback counters and 346 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: powers and those things. Jalen Hurd is a central piece 347 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: of the palls, and when it comes to the running 348 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: game and what the Eagles want to do, you have 349 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: to defend him at at all times against design quarterback 350 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: runs and a variety of option plays that they also 351 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: will kind of put in the call sheet. And so 352 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: this will slow down the edge rushes because now you've 353 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: got to make sure he's he's executing the run, he's 354 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: giving the ball off, he's not pulling it. That slows 355 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: everything down. Whereas with Brock Purdy, yes, you have to 356 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: honor the play fake in the backside bootleg, but brought 357 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: pretty running four hundred yards, that's not necessarily a viable 358 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: option for the Niners. It's very viable for the Philadelphia 359 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: Eagles because we've seen Jim Hurst do it in the past. 360 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: I actually think you might see the Niners come out 361 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: try and run the ball to try and slow down 362 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: this front. I think McCaffrey gets a lot of touches. 363 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: Think Debot gets some touches in the backfield as well. 364 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see the Eagles. I'd be shocked 365 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: if they don't come out and try and take some 366 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: shots early in this game. I think when you look 367 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: at Lenore at the corner spot, Um, I think they 368 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: go after him a little bit and try and stretch 369 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: him out a little bit early, try and see if 370 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: they can't get this defense to expand and then start 371 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: running the ball after that. That would be my guests 372 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: with how the Eagles offense approaches it again, look for 373 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: some of these over the top home run balls early 374 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: in the game. Nick Siriannie likes to be aggressive, so 375 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: that'll be something, UH to keep an eye on there. 376 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: We look at the way these teams are built, buck Um. 377 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: Isn't just another example of you win offensive line defensive line. 378 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: We can look at all the playmakers. These teams are 379 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: loaded with playmakers. But offensive line wise, they can move people. 380 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: Defensive line wise, they get after you. I mean I 381 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: think they're i mean very very similar with how they've 382 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: how they've built these rosters. Yeah, very similar. But the 383 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles have certainly invested in the trench warriors as 384 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: we call them, the ability to move people off the ball. 385 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: In the run game, they dominated the New York Jizts. 386 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: And remember how we talked about the Giants defense the 387 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: week before after we watched them really throttled the Minnesota Vikings. 388 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: They ran right at my guys. Dexter Lawrence and all 389 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: those big guys on the inside had no problem moving 390 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: them off the ball. And the success on the ground 391 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: really highlighted the physicality, the toughness, and the overall athleticism 392 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: of the Eagles front line. And then defensively, I mean, 393 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: you just talk about it. This team. It seems like 394 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: each week they're getting six or more sacks. Uh, they 395 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: get after you. Uh. You think about the number of 396 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: guys they can throw at you. They can do it 397 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: in waves. And the scary thing about the Eagles they 398 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: haven't even had to tap into their first round pick yet. 399 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: Like when you think about when Jordan Davis and some 400 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: of the other guys that they have just sitting on 401 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: the shelf grow up and develop and become monsters. Holy smokes. 402 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: Were talked about a five or six year run from 403 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: the Philadelphic Eagans. What they are going to absolutely be 404 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: a problem on offense and defense. It's rare nowadays to 405 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: be able to to kind of let your young guys 406 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: sit and develop as opposed to have to throw them 407 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: right out there. But they just have so much depth, 408 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: and Howiy Rosen has done such a great job with 409 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: the salary cap. They're they're able to do that. So 410 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: I haven't had to pay the quarterback yet either that 411 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: that day's coming. They have to pay the piper there 412 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts again. Should be a fascinating game. Should 413 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: be a very close game, a fourth quarter game. Uh, 414 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: something I think we see in the a f C 415 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: Championship game as well. Let's take a quick breakback. We'll 416 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: come back. We'll jump into Bengals Chiefs matchup that has 417 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: been one sided. Really the Bengals have owned the Kansas 418 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: City Chiefs three straight wins. Does that continue? We'll talk 419 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: about that right after the break. Al right, Buck, let's 420 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: keep the conversation going here and Bengals Chiefs again, another 421 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: really evenly matched game. Think about last year? Uh that 422 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: game in over time the Bengals beat the Chiefs twenty 423 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: seven to twenty four, they capture the a f C 424 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: Championship and move on to the Super Bowl again. I 425 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: think these teams very evenly matched. I know the Bengals, 426 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: there is something to be said for the fact they've 427 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: beat these guys three times in a row. I think 428 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: the environment there in Kansas City, the fear factor. I 429 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: don't know if that really is gonna shake the Cincinnati 430 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Bengals and Joe Burrow now it won't shake them. And 431 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: I heard Joe Burrow have a isteresting conversation at his 432 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: pressing where you talked about, you know, just looking around 433 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: the locker room and the guys that the Bengals have acquired. 434 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: All of those guys play the top programs in college 435 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of them competed for national titles, and 436 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: so the big game thing doesn't really impact them as 437 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: much as maybe some of the other teams. And when 438 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: you think about the Cincinnati Bengals and you talked about 439 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: a lesson to be learned from their team building process, Um, 440 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: I guess these guys are doing like Warren Buffett. They're 441 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: just going with the brand names. DJ. When I went 442 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: up and down their roster, only found two guys that 443 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: didn't play at a Power five or a Group of 444 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: five program. I mean, to me, that's remarkable in this 445 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: day and age. When we talked about finding the hidden 446 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: gyms at lower at smaller schools and trying to like 447 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: dust those guys off and maybe finding a diamond and 448 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: the rough, Mike Brown and and Duke Tobin and Zach 449 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: Sly like, now we're good. We can go to the 450 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: best programs, the best schools take their players and we 451 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 1: go through a collection to those guys out there, and 452 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what they're doing is 453 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: they're winning people because their stars are playing like stars 454 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: on the major stage. I do believe there's something to 455 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: be said for their team building approach. I mean, they 456 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: just have a collection of big time players who played 457 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: big games at big schools and is paying off handsomely 458 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: for them in the postseason. Well, you lead me to 459 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: the question because that made some headlines, and Brandon bean 460 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: Uh said what he said at his press conference the 461 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: other day with the Buffalo Bill saying, Hey, I don't 462 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: want to suck bad enough to be in position to 463 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: get you know, Jamaar Chase and at Joe Burrow, which 464 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: was interesting. I think it it caught some people off guard, 465 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: maybe rub some folks the wrong way there in Cincinnati, 466 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: but that is I mean, it is something that's true. 467 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that you say that at a press conference, 468 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: maybe something you say around the building when you're frustrated 469 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: just coming off of a loss. But Brandon is is right. Man. 470 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: You've got premier players and they're on rookie contracts. So 471 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: when you can have the you know, the luck to 472 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: have those top picks in the years where you have 473 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: those type of guys, Yeah, it's an advantage um and 474 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: it's one where once Joe Burrow gets paid, once Jamar 475 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: Chase gets paid, uh, some of these other guys are 476 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to go. They're not gonna be able to 477 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: have the depth and their roster that they have right now. 478 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: That's why it almost feels like, man, this is this 479 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: is kind of the time here for for the Cincinnati Bengals. 480 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: I know, Kansas City has paid Patrick Mahomes and they're 481 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: right there and they've kind of figured out a formula 482 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: and how they kind of reworked some contracts, moved on 483 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 1: from Tyree Hill, spread that money around. There's a formula 484 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: to do it. But in terms of where they are 485 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: right now, this this group that they have with Cincinnati, 486 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: it feels like there's some urgency there for them to 487 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: get this done right now. There's emergency in DJ. I 488 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw the status floating around Twitter 489 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: where they're talking about, Uh, the quarterbacks that are actually 490 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: go into the Super Bowl are the ones that are 491 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: on rookie deals are very very cheap contracts. And when 492 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: we think of out how hard it is the challenge 493 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: of building a roster. When you have your quarterback on 494 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: a big money deal, it does change the math a 495 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: little bit. It also exposes you're drafting practices when it 496 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: comes to how you require players and the players that 497 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: you're bringing in because when you pay the quarterback man, 498 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: drafting because more magnified, because those guys you have to 499 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: have pop. Because we talked about cheap labor and the draft, 500 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: being able to procure a vehicle for you to get 501 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: talent um at low market prices, you have to be 502 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: able to hit on some of those and so the 503 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: can see the Chiefs have been able to do that. 504 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: But when we think about the Bengals, and but the 505 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: Bengals will need to do in the future. They're gonna 506 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: have to continue to keep drafting well, but the difference 507 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: will be they'll go from drafting in the top ten 508 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: where it's easier to get a blue chair player too. Now, 509 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: when you're drafting into twenties, you're scouting department, your scouts 510 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: have to be more on it because there's more projection 511 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: involved in those things. In top ten. Yeah, you're talking 512 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: about production and those guys they should be easier to find. 513 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting when you said that about the 514 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: big school and haven't played big games. You know, I'm 515 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: cross checking in here, Buck, and I'm looking at the 516 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: roster here for the Cincinnati Bengals, and and correct me 517 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, But these guys have played in either 518 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: national championship games or in playoff games. Jamaar Chase obviously 519 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: at l s U. Tee Higgins at Clemson, Uh, Jonah 520 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: Williams at Alabama. Um, you look at Joe Burrow obviously 521 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: winning a national championship, Joe Mixon at Oklahoma, and those 522 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: are five other the name brand key dudes just on 523 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: offense that you could say have played at the highest 524 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: level on the biggest stage in college. I do think 525 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: that's a great point. Um, I think that's you know, 526 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: the environment. Some of the environments you play in college 527 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: are are going to be more difficult than the environments 528 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: you play in the NFL, and that is a great 529 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: training ground for these guys to not be uh, not 530 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: be too too big, try and be too big in 531 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: those moments they've already been in some really big moments. Man. 532 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a fascinating point. So that goes to me. 533 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: I can't say that was all of mine, but when 534 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: I was a player back in Green Bay, had a 535 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: conversation with Hall of Fame executive Ron from Ron Wolf 536 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, you want to go and get guys. 537 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: I want to see guys that played at big schools, 538 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: in big games and full stadiums a hundred thousand, because 539 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: that's as close as you can get to being able 540 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: to play in the National Football League. And as much 541 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: as I like to put on my scouting heat and 542 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: find those guys and the small schools or whatever, there's 543 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: a time factor when it comes to development. By the 544 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: time I developed them in two, three or four years, 545 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: do I have enough time to then sign them and 546 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: get what I want out of and many can I 547 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: get a return on my investment in terms of the 548 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: time and the resources that we have to pour into them. 549 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: I would rather see guys on the big stage and say, hey, 550 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: these guys have played a big programs. I am going 551 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: to bank on that because remember, when it comes to scouting, 552 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: you're trying to increase your eyes of hitting on a guy. 553 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: And so maybe there's something too to Cincinnati Bengals seeing, Yeah, 554 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna go focus on these guys that are playing 555 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: in these big games because we're more likely to know 556 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: who they are and what they're about because we've seen 557 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: them play against best like best on best competition. Maybe 558 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: there is something to it that other teams and scouts 559 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: would explore, because it certainly seems to be working for 560 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals. And I look at the fascinating thing as 561 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: we switch over to the Kansas City Chiefs, how the 562 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: Albrett veach just kind of reworked this roster a little 563 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: bit buck and I look at their construction. They took 564 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: their money and kind of took it out of the 565 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: receiver room and they put it into the offensive line room. 566 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: If you look where they've kind of invested over the 567 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: last few years. Orlando Brown obviously the trade he gets 568 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: he has, He's on a big number there at left tackle. 569 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: Joe Tuney comes over as a high price free agent, 570 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: has been a great player. He's spent a second round 571 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: pick on Creed Humphrey Um been one of the best 572 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: centers in the NFL. That's high capital, high draft capital there. 573 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: Trey Smith was just a gift from heaven that fell 574 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 1: because of some medical stuff. They end up taking him 575 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: in the sixth round. Didn't cost him as much there, 576 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: but they but they've invested there. Then you look at 577 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: the receiver position, they've kind of spread it out after 578 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill moves on, they got Juju is not making 579 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: a ton of money. Justin Watson has been a, you know, 580 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: an effective player for them. MBS. You've got sky Moore, 581 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: who is a second round pick Canary Tony didn't cost 582 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: you much. I think what like a three what they 583 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: ended up trading for him, So they've kind of taken 584 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: that money. It's interesting how you can allocate it in 585 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: different areas. And I think it goes to the point 586 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: that we've always talked about. You have a big time 587 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: quarterback like that, let's put some pieces in front of 588 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: him and uh and then man, you just get it. 589 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: You can spread the resources at the receiver position because 590 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: he elevates all of their play because he's such an 591 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: unbelievable talent. Yeah, DJ, I think that is the lesson 592 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: to be learned from that. Do what you need to 593 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: do to get the five star quarterback and then build 594 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: around him. And the way that they're building around him 595 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: is what you're talking about. Give him the fortress and 596 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: then put it on Pat Mahomes. Hey, man, I need 597 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: you to elevate the pieces. You're the star. Now, I 598 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: need you to elevate these other guys by putting the 599 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: ball consistently in the strike zone, by extending plays and 600 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: finding a way to produce explosive plays on your talents. 601 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: The better the quarterback, the more chances you can take 602 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: on the perimeter, the less of the quarterback, the more 603 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: that he falls into that game manager category, the out 604 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: of the weapons need to be on the outside. And 605 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes, we're talking about, argue, we're talking about the 606 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: best quarterback in football when it comes to skills and 607 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: what he's done early in his career. We're now seeing 608 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: what we always talk about. Elite quarterbacks can raise the 609 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: level of play of those around them, provided they're protected. 610 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: He's done that. He's done a year after year after year, 611 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: which is why they're in the fifth straight championship game, 612 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: which is crazy to even think about. So let me 613 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: just play this game. If you took running backs, tight ends, 614 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: receivers for both these teams, because we can say, look, 615 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: I know there's been some arguments out there, you know, 616 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow versus Patrick Mahomes not here to wage that war. 617 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: I think they're both unbelievable talents. They're different, and how 618 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: they play the game, they're both incredible. So if we 619 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: don't want to get into that conversation, I do think 620 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: it's interesting if you look at the skill players. Travis 621 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: Kelsey would be probably the first or second pick. It 622 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: would be between him and Jamar Chase. You know of 623 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: who that first pick would be, you know, so let's 624 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: give Kelsey one of those first two spots. After that Buck, 625 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: I think you would have those three Bengal receivers, you 626 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: would have Joe Mixon. I think all four of those 627 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: guys would go before the next chief would go. I mean, 628 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: I think they have much better supporting cast in terms 629 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: of high impact dudes with those three, those three whiteouts, 630 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: as well as as Joe Mixon back there. Yeah, DJ, 631 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing. And here here's what I 632 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: always say when people are trying to make the comparison. 633 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: One we were talking about Joe Burrow and if he 634 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: is able to win and be the fourth time that 635 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: he's knocked off Pat Mahomes. But I'll say this, what 636 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: if we put Pat mahomes Is in snetti, what would 637 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: that offense look like? Because he's stole for over five 638 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: thousand yards and he doesn't have that. So then you 639 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: give him those guys you talk about a video game exploding. 640 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a Madden Ring of ninety nine with 641 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: that offense? How do you slow them down? And so 642 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: that is the thing. Both guys are great in their 643 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: own way, but I mean, let's hey, let's let's hold 644 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: on to that. Like I love Joe Burr and Joe 645 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: Burrow definitely is one of the elite quarterbacks in the game, 646 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: and I think they're only three or four in this league. 647 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: He's one of those guys. But Pat Mahomes, he's a unicorn. 648 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: He's a he's a rare fine, no doubt it's gonna 649 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: be a fascinating game. Here again, we'll see this, can't see. 650 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: The Chiefs defensive line is really good. Um, Karl Loftis 651 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: has gotten better as the season has gone along. We 652 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: know Chris Jones is an elite, elite elite player. Frank Clark, 653 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: playoff Frank Clark, Um, you know everybody knows what he 654 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: can do in the level he can get to. I 655 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be where it's one or lost. I 656 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: think if they can get to Joe Burrow, which is 657 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: very hard to do because the ball comes out, if 658 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 1: they can get to Joe Burrow, the Kansas City Chiefs win. Uh. 659 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: If this offensive line plays as well as they did 660 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: last week, I don't see Cincinnati losing this ball game. Uh, 661 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: that to me is gonna be everything in this game, because, um, 662 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: I think if if you can't get to Joe Burrow, 663 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna carve up the secondary. Man. No, he absolutely will. 664 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: But I think everyone has to remember this because sometimes 665 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: what gets lost in the fact that the biggest of 666 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: won the last three games, every game has been a 667 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: tight game, and you know the ball bounces your way 668 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: a handful of times or whatever. At some point that 669 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: thing is gonna bounce in the way of the Red guys, 670 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: and so you just have to be careful when it 671 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: comes to this. And I know this is one that 672 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: chippy Eli Apple and all these guys like to talk 673 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: and all that, so it should be a fun game 674 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: to watch. I'm just hoping it's one of those fourth 675 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: quarter thrillers where the ball is in the hands of 676 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback, and man, the quarterbacks have to make a 677 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: series of plays to get this done. I don't know 678 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: if you can ask for two better quarterbacks to be 679 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 1: in that position, Joe Burrow on one hand, Pet Mahomes 680 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: and the other. We've seen these guys do it time 681 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: and time again. I'm just gonna sit back and watch 682 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: and relax and and just really marvel at what they 683 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: bring to the table. No doubt it's gonna be a 684 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: great game again, a four quarter game. I think it's 685 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: really close. Can't wait to see how that one shakes out. Man, 686 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: this has been fun buck digging into these games. While 687 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: we'll be back to recap them next week as well 688 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: as jump into some heavy draft talk. You're gonna be 689 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: at the East West, I'm gonna be out at the 690 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Um, so what a lot more draft talk 691 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: come in your way. I appreciate you guys hanging with 692 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: us today. We gotta remind you. You You can catch all 693 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: the move the six content. You can go to nfl 694 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: dot com, the nfl app Um. It's all out there 695 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: for you. Go to the NF YouTube channel as well. 696 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. We'll see you next time right here 697 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: on load of sticks