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Speaker 2: And welcome back George Noori with you, Caroline Corey with Us.
Speaker 2: Caroline as an award winning filmmaker author. A couple of
Speaker 2: her books include The Divine Plan, God among Us and
Speaker 2: founder of the Omnium Method of Energy Medicine and Consciousness Studies. Caroline,
Speaker 2: did you enjoy our panel A Conscious Life?
Speaker 3: Oh? My god, it was so fun And I didn't
Speaker 3: know you were so funny. Your jokes are awesome. You
Speaker 3: did a great job.
Speaker 2: We do that at some of our live stage shows
Speaker 2: that way, and folks really look forward to it. We
Speaker 2: break them up and we had people in stitches, didn't we.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I didn't know. I have never seen
Speaker 3: that show. I heard about it, but yeah, it was
Speaker 3: a blast.
Speaker 2: I've seen you on Ancient Aliens. How you been?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Good? Actually, I just filmed like three episodes like
Speaker 3: a month. So do you believe like it says season
Speaker 3: what seventeen or something?
Speaker 2: In nice? And it was one of the ideas of
Speaker 2: Giorgio Sukolos and what a brilliant guy he is.
Speaker 3: He is. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: What's your take on the afterlife? You believe it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I believe it. You know, I think I
Speaker 3: told you my story a few times. I mean, I
Speaker 3: told the story a few times. You know. I've been
Speaker 3: seeing spirit and energy, subtle energy, like since I was
Speaker 3: a child, and so you know, I kind of already
Speaker 3: knew since I was a kid that there's something beyond
Speaker 3: the physical. So growing up with these experiences just kept
Speaker 3: me open to what is that, you know, what is
Speaker 3: beyond the physical and where do we goure we pass?
Speaker 3: So sometimes I would see a deceased relative of someone
Speaker 3: I'm working with. Sometimes I would see like angels, and
Speaker 3: so so it's a very comfortable subject for me, you know,
Speaker 3: And and I guarantee that there isn't afterlife. I've seen
Speaker 3: people actually pass and somehow get stuck here and I've
Speaker 3: got to help them transition to other planes of reality.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I've experienced that whole world just so
Speaker 3: many times myself, and also through working with clients for
Speaker 3: years and years and years. So it's definitely a true thing.
Speaker 2: Did you ever have any doubts of its existence?
Speaker 3: Not really, like I said, because you know, it's always
Speaker 3: been part of my life to see beyond the physical
Speaker 3: so it's you know, and like I said, sometimes I
Speaker 3: would have clients who have a child or a friend
Speaker 3: or a relative who's in a coma. I see them
Speaker 3: leave the body, go somewhere else and then come back.
Speaker 3: And then a lot of people call me because their
Speaker 3: parent or grandparent is about to transition, and so I
Speaker 3: get to see kind of where they're headed and who's
Speaker 3: on the other side. So it's it's I've never really
Speaker 3: had any doubt, no, especially I also had my own NDE,
Speaker 3: so yeah, it's definitely true. Tell us about Actually it
Speaker 3: was when I was seventeen, so about ten years ago,
Speaker 3: and it was a car I had a very very
Speaker 3: bad car accident. Yeah, I mean the car was completely totaled.
Speaker 3: I hit my head on the dashboard, I broke my nose,
Speaker 3: my cheekbones. Yeah, no seatbelt of course, kids, you know,
Speaker 3: and you know the guy I was with, like he
Speaker 3: had a few too many to drink, and you know,
Speaker 3: he was showing off his new car. You know, silly
Speaker 3: stuff too, you know. So of course, so I remember
Speaker 3: just the the you know, like the the impact and
Speaker 3: then I kind of slipped like under the seat, and
Speaker 3: I remember somebody pulling me out of the window because
Speaker 3: the door wouldn't open. And then I laid on the
Speaker 3: on the sidewalks for a very long time, I think,
Speaker 3: which felt like a very long time until the ambulance
Speaker 3: came or something. And this is where I left my body.
Speaker 3: So the rest of the time I was kind of
Speaker 3: hovering above my body. The next time I saw the body,
Speaker 3: I was already on a like on an operating table
Speaker 3: and so and I kind of witnessed the operation because
Speaker 3: my nose was very badly fractured. So that's kind of
Speaker 3: how it's interesting because I didn't remember the NDE at
Speaker 3: that time, like when I woke up from the operation.
Speaker 3: Everything else, I remembered it later, and I don't know
Speaker 3: why that is, but yeah, so that's how it happened
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: Which is kind of interesting too, is because when you
Speaker 2: leave your body at the scene of the accident, you
Speaker 2: probably followed it to the hospital.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly, so, because like I passed out on
Speaker 3: the sidewalk and then the next thing, yeah, I was
Speaker 3: already in the operating room. So yeah, it's it's just
Speaker 3: fascinating stuff. And I remember very well, like kind of
Speaker 3: them putting me to sleep, you know, for the operation
Speaker 3: and then just witnessing the whole thing. It was very long,
Speaker 3: I guess it was. I was completely fractured my nose,
Speaker 3: my check rope. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Really bad to heal up.
Speaker 3: A year and a half, Oh my god. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 3: it was hard. You know. I think it was like
Speaker 3: the last year of high school or something, and it
Speaker 3: was summertime, I remember, because all my friends were going
Speaker 3: to the peek to the beach on holiday everything else,
Speaker 3: and I was lying on my bed for a year
Speaker 3: and a half to believe that. Because I also hurt
Speaker 3: my back. I couldn't walk actually for a while. So
Speaker 3: it was really really bad.
Speaker 2: How do you feel now? Oh?
Speaker 3: I feel awesome. I mean I still have the few
Speaker 3: problems here and there, but nothing. I mean, I'm totally
Speaker 3: like I function like a normal person. But I think
Speaker 3: people create these experiences to have the opportunity to exit. So,
Speaker 3: because that's something that I see all the time when
Speaker 3: I work with people in a coma, I see them
Speaker 3: outside the body, and then when I communicate with them,
Speaker 3: they are kind of questioning, Okay, where am I at
Speaker 3: this point in my life? Should I come back? Can
Speaker 3: I come back? Is my body strong enough to continue
Speaker 3: the journey or should I you know, move on. So
Speaker 3: I think that's the We created this opportunity to be
Speaker 3: outside the human experience completely and look down and assess
Speaker 3: where we're at from that perspective.
Speaker 2: Do you think herline is a new death experience? Is
Speaker 2: something spiritual or is it tied to the complexity of
Speaker 2: life somehow biologically?
Speaker 3: Well, it's consciousness. Is basically, you are consciousness, and a
Speaker 3: part of you is occupying your human body just like
Speaker 3: a kiny. Part of the consciousness is inside the body
Speaker 3: for a certain time for you know, fifty years, seventy years,
Speaker 3: ninety years or whatever, and then when you're done, you
Speaker 3: kind of your entire being goes back to the way
Speaker 3: you were, which is consciousness. So it's all consciousness. You
Speaker 3: don't cease to exist as consciousness. You just have like
Speaker 3: a part of you, an aspect of you, do a
Speaker 3: little bit of human stuff and then go back. So
Speaker 3: it's not a biological I mean, it's it's it's your
Speaker 3: consciousness that that's making your body function. It's making your
Speaker 3: brain functions, making your you know, your whole body functions.
Speaker 3: So when you when the consciousness leaves the body, then
Speaker 3: the body dies. You know. So, so that that's the
Speaker 3: idea basically.
Speaker 2: Tell us about the evidence of the afterlife, what's out there.
Speaker 3: Well, the evidence is, first of all, so many people
Speaker 3: have had NDS, so it's not such an uncommon thing.
Speaker 3: I'm actually surprised how many people report that. And you know,
Speaker 3: we had to remember doctor Eben Alexander on our panel. Remember, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's one of my favorite examples of nd because he's
Speaker 3: also a medical doctor and so he didn't believe in
Speaker 3: any of this and for him to have that experience
Speaker 3: and come back and tell us that he was literally
Speaker 3: brain dead, and yet he remembers every thing he had,
Speaker 3: you know, all these experiences on the other side, and
Speaker 3: so so there's a lot of stories and reports of
Speaker 3: people having had these experiences. We're not all crazy to
Speaker 3: report these things. So that's you know, the evidence that
Speaker 3: how can you be brain dead, completely brain dead, and
Speaker 3: still have an experience. This means that the experience is
Speaker 3: not bound to your body your the experience is outside
Speaker 3: your body, and that means it's your consciousness.
Speaker 2: It is remarkable to be sure, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, well, I mean the idea is, if you
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to experience something like this, not that
Speaker 3: you have to create something horrific to leave your body,
Speaker 3: but even through meditation, as you know, you have the
Speaker 3: ability to experience what's beyond the physical. But if you
Speaker 3: begin to imagine or if you you know, like in
Speaker 3: my case, I'm very lucky because I work with so
Speaker 3: many people and I could see, you know, their grandparents,
Speaker 3: their you know, diseased relatives. Sometimes it's their children unfortunately.
Speaker 3: So you know, it gives you a sense of of course,
Speaker 3: that you are infinite. This life is not the end
Speaker 3: of everything. And if that's the case, then what is
Speaker 3: this life about. It's almost it makes it even more
Speaker 3: precious that you're only here temporarily. And then you go
Speaker 3: back to that thing that you were so to me.
Speaker 3: If you have that ability to understand that there is
Speaker 3: an after life, then I think it will make your
Speaker 3: human life that much more precious and important.
Speaker 2: There's no question about that. I mean, what do you
Speaker 2: say to a skeptic, Caroline, who is a non believer
Speaker 2: in the afterlife.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's very difficult this topic or any
Speaker 3: other spiritual topic to when you talk to a skeptic,
Speaker 3: you know, you can't explain these things intellectually. Although again
Speaker 3: these medical doctors that talk about being brain dead and
Speaker 3: still having experience should you know, be helpful. But I
Speaker 3: think if you're a skeptic, unless you have yourself some
Speaker 3: sort of experience here, it's going to be very hard
Speaker 3: to really really convince anyone. I think it's okay to
Speaker 3: be skeptic, but I think you're missing out on a
Speaker 3: lot because there is no like, you have nothing to
Speaker 3: lose to try to experience what's beyond the physical, and then,
Speaker 3: you know, unless you live it yourself, it's very hard
Speaker 3: to really convince someone who doesn't want to believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. I mean, there's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with being a skeptic, but you should at least
Speaker 2: have an open mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean you should have an open mind
Speaker 3: in anything you know and everything. And you know, science
Speaker 3: is that the idea of science is to prove or
Speaker 3: I mean, to demonstrate reality. And so how do you
Speaker 3: demonstrate something that is non physical that we're using physical laws.
Speaker 3: You have to start with the assumption that there is
Speaker 3: something and then try to find evidence of not necessarily
Speaker 3: evidence of the spiritual realm, but it's impact. As you know,
Speaker 3: the movie that I did called Superhuman. We worked a
Speaker 3: lot with scientists doing experiments, so we were trying to
Speaker 3: prove that consciousness exists. You know, that there is such
Speaker 3: a thing as consciousness, and it's consciousness that actually dictates
Speaker 3: how you function as a human. So we kept going,
Speaker 3: you know, saying, wait, you know, you cannot create scientific
Speaker 3: laws using mainstream science, because these are Newtonian laws that
Speaker 3: measure physical things, but we're talking about non physical things.
Speaker 3: But what we can do is demonstrate the interaction between
Speaker 3: consciousness and the physical world. That we can do that
Speaker 3: is measurable, and so that's what we did. We did
Speaker 3: all sorts of experiments, for example, focusing your intention on
Speaker 3: water and changing the pH and water, focusing your intention
Speaker 3: on electrical device, electronic device, and you know, creating all
Speaker 3: sorts of changes in the data. So what was happening
Speaker 3: is that the consciousness was interacting with the physical object
Speaker 3: and creating a change. And so when you do these
Speaker 3: experiments under laboratory conditions, you know, scientists, you have to
Speaker 3: do create a baseline and you know, control groups and
Speaker 3: do it over and over and over, and you have
Speaker 3: these incredible correlations that yes, every time consciousness interacts with
Speaker 3: a physical device, it changes its parameters. What does that
Speaker 3: tell you? There is something that's invisible that is affecting
Speaker 3: the visible and that is measurable so that.
Speaker 2: We can do And where does evil fit into the
Speaker 2: puzzle here?
Speaker 3: Mmmm? I think you know it's I like your questions.
Speaker 3: I don't think evil exists on its own. I think
Speaker 3: this is something that humans create. It's a choice. Every
Speaker 3: time you think, you create an aspect of your reality,
Speaker 3: from the smallest creation to the biggest one. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get up and make myself a sandwich. I'm
Speaker 3: creating an experience for myself. I'm creating I'm gonna call
Speaker 3: my mother and see, you know, check in and see
Speaker 3: how she's feeling. I'm creating an experience. So I am
Speaker 3: making a choice every moment of the day to experience
Speaker 3: life in a certain way. So if I choose to
Speaker 3: make a decision, if I make a decision as that
Speaker 3: is in conflict with the universal laws. Universal laws are
Speaker 3: for life to strive, for life to expand, for life
Speaker 3: to basically be based on love, truth, beauty, goodness, divine laws,
Speaker 3: and so anything in conflict with that, anything that is
Speaker 3: self destructive, eventually could turn into evil. So I feel
Speaker 3: like it's not something that already exists. This is something
Speaker 3: that you create, and you're choosing to create. Of course,
Speaker 3: there are people who create subconsciously. They don't mean to
Speaker 3: hurt someone, but they do because they have mental problems
Speaker 3: or what have you. And there is mental illness as well.
Speaker 3: That's another subject. But I think that we are the
Speaker 3: ones creating evil and darkness, and therefore we can uncreate it.
Speaker 2: But do you believe in the devil?
Speaker 3: I have to say that I do. I mean not
Speaker 3: that I I'm into it, but I do because I
Speaker 3: did see these entities. I didn't want to, you know,
Speaker 3: like I said, when I work with people, it took
Speaker 3: me a long time to really train myself to make sure,
Speaker 3: first of all, that I wasn't making stuff up. But
Speaker 3: I wasn't crazy, So, you know, just a little bit
Speaker 3: of a background. I spent like fifteen years working on clarity.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to discern how frequency works, you know, how
Speaker 3: how do you really actually see subtle energy? What is
Speaker 3: it that you're seeing, what's the difference? How do you
Speaker 3: know it's not you that's making stuff up? So it
Speaker 3: took me a long time, and then you get validation.
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