Speaker 1: Forever. Look man, oh I see you. Why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that nulture? Yes, goodness, les culture.
Speaker 1: Our energy is fucking tired. I thought it was okay,
Speaker 1: don't don't your energy? No, no, no, no, no. Can
Speaker 1: I say I'm projecting because we were just talking about
Speaker 1: how we haven't been getting laid. Yeah, that's said, and
Speaker 1: so you're projecting onto your energy. I'm just saying, like, okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, well, it was a late light night
Speaker 1: last night, and we were out having a nice time,
Speaker 1: and it felt like everyone in the world hooked up
Speaker 1: with us. Yes right, yes, yes, right, it's not fair.
Speaker 1: Everyone at this bar we were out kept fucking pairing off,
Speaker 1: like okay, it's that kind of night, and love was
Speaker 1: in the air, and it made me feel like I'm
Speaker 1: going to catch the bug. And I thought I was
Speaker 1: going to catch the too. But hey, I thought you were.
Speaker 1: I thought I was getting all the bugs. I thought
Speaker 1: you were getting the bugs last night. I thought you
Speaker 1: were getting debugged. Sorry, okay, I thought we're talking abot
Speaker 1: two different things. I'm talking about STDs and you're talking
Speaker 1: about No. I believe that's an element of what I
Speaker 1: was talking about s t DS, But I did transition
Speaker 1: and talking about how I thought you were going to
Speaker 1: get plugged. You're famously someone who enjoys the bottom. Sure
Speaker 1: would you call yourself a famous bottom? Now? I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's famous. I do I talk about I
Speaker 1: talk about getting toys all the time. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: get them all the time. I bought three dildos for
Speaker 1: a show that we did for Queers Live at Joe's Pub,
Speaker 1: and did they sever purposes afterwards? But theatrical? And I
Speaker 1: was just like, well, I can't just make it theatrical.
Speaker 1: You have to make it real. You have to clean
Speaker 1: those though. I clean them, I get into the the
Speaker 1: grooves and hot water again, and the girls are yours.
Speaker 1: The Wait, what you have a lot of like special toys,
Speaker 1: Like they're just standard silicone. Explain what the trainer build is.
Speaker 1: The trainer one is just not as girthy. It's just
Speaker 1: it's like a smaller dick and it's perfect. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: like whatever if I need, if I need to like
Speaker 1: level up, level up a girth class, then like that's
Speaker 1: like um getting a new belt in karate. Absolutely so
Speaker 1: go up a notch and and your girth right right right,
Speaker 1: um and so anyway, anyway, we didn't didn't even matter
Speaker 1: last night, didn't even matter last night speaking of an
Speaker 1: All one of her guests, Hadsome last night, and I
Speaker 1: am so proud of her. And we need to get
Speaker 1: into this, well, we do need to get into this.
Speaker 1: And you know, this is the thing. But this is inspired.
Speaker 1: Our whole intro conversation is inspired. It's inspired. But like
Speaker 1: our guests, I mean, like this is like just me
Speaker 1: like reflect like checking my own like whatever pearls, like
Speaker 1: checking your pearls. But when when I listened to to
Speaker 1: these to these two people just like talk so openly,
Speaker 1: it's so refreshing, I'm like, yes, this like this should
Speaker 1: be how it always is. Well, that's why it's a revolution.
Speaker 1: It's a revolution, bab. That's why it's fucking iconic. It's iconic.
Speaker 1: That's why it's one of the biggest podcasts out there
Speaker 1: in the universe. In the universe, Arosa would say, in
Speaker 1: the universe, the most powerful, powerful podcast in the universe,
Speaker 1: and the most powerful at the most powerful anti slamings
Speaker 1: podcast slaming anti slaming. When you when you're a sledgehammer,
Speaker 1: we just cut right to the trees and call you
Speaker 1: a slammer. But if you are not worth two or
Speaker 1: a time, if you're a slammer, that is that is
Speaker 1: the worst thing you can call someone, the worst thing.
Speaker 1: You're fucking slammer. And I see you get the fun
Speaker 1: out of this bar before I fucking clock you. I
Speaker 1: would never slam And look, the thing is like I
Speaker 1: love everyone last night who got laid. I just we're
Speaker 1: not flaming. I'm not slaming. Slaming is worse than murder.
Speaker 1: Slaming is the worst thing you could do. You a
Speaker 1: prison for slaming. It's treason. It's like this slaming treason.
Speaker 1: Murder is murder worse than treason. Murder is not worse
Speaker 1: than treason. And I think treason to the wason is
Speaker 1: like the bad one. It's not slaming, not blaming anyway.
Speaker 1: So here's the d We have to fucking fabulous guys.
Speaker 1: And they are the host of guys we fucked. They're
Speaker 1: the comedy duo. Sorry about last night, Um, y'all. They
Speaker 1: have books and ship like that is like aspiration. Imagine
Speaker 1: having a book. That is one of the things I want,
Speaker 1: That is one of the things you want. We should talk,
Speaker 1: we should talk. I would love to talk about this
Speaker 1: with them. Can we talk? Can we candidly talk at
Speaker 1: some point you and I about a book. I think
Speaker 1: you and I not reading another book, because you know
Speaker 1: that's a challenge. In order to write a book, you
Speaker 1: have to read a book. I believe that's untrue. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: well have you question about it. I'm truly so excited
Speaker 1: thrilled to have our guests. Please give a welcome in
Speaker 1: your ears to our guests. Correct Fasher and Christina Hutchinson
Speaker 1: missing your magic. So you know, I realized the energy.
Speaker 1: I'm not as tired of the energy Imin is dropped in.
Speaker 1: I'm so horny y who did the anal? Like hardcore?
Speaker 1: And I'm like he was on top. We were like
Speaker 1: facing yes. At first he put it in my pussy
Speaker 1: and I was like and I was like, I tell
Speaker 1: him that's the wrong hole because he's like, oh, let's
Speaker 1: do it. And then I did it and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's my pussy and then we both laughed and then
Speaker 1: put it and then I put it in my butt. Man,
Speaker 1: oh man, we've went you've both done anal before and
Speaker 1: we are we fans generally to sam with this person yes,
Speaker 1: with this person. Person. It depends on the person, depends
Speaker 1: on the person, depends on how we moved, depends on
Speaker 1: the penis. Yes, the curve, the curveture, the size, the
Speaker 1: way you know he's not taper. Yeah. Yeah, I need
Speaker 1: a trainer dildo. I love it. I will sing the
Speaker 1: praises of trainer dildos until the day I die. I
Speaker 1: mean so much butt stuff last night that my fingers
Speaker 1: right up his ass. Yeah? Is this the guy? Because
Speaker 1: when we were on your show a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: you said that you had started dating someone and he
Speaker 1: had and his butt was unknown to him, and he
Speaker 1: is he never had a finger up his butt and
Speaker 1: he just let me do it. He goes, what do
Speaker 1: you want to do to me? Do it? And he
Speaker 1: didn't even flinch. I'm like, what a g oh my god.
Speaker 1: I love Yeah, I've like fell in love with him
Speaker 1: when he let me finger his butt hole and didn't flinch.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Yeah, I mean that's that's love. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: it's really really really yeah, but like we're not exclusive,
Speaker 1: but it's fun. I agree with things though. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it's conversion. Did he say did he say? I love
Speaker 1: you when your finger and went into his butt. No,
Speaker 1: that would have been there's a whole feature film in that.
Speaker 1: I think there's a scientific study in that. What if
Speaker 1: my finger went in his button, it came out, there's
Speaker 1: a ring on it. That's that's how the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that starts Robby Malik and Jessica chest Yes, that
Speaker 1: star that starts Darren Chris Chris. We love him, We
Speaker 1: love Darren. Do we know Darren Chris? I mean I
Speaker 1: think he's hot, and I mean not in real life.
Speaker 1: So okay, so we can talk candily about the bitch.
Speaker 1: All right, So now you know what, Darren Chris comes
Speaker 1: out and says, now he's not going to do any
Speaker 1: more gay part part after he's done them all, I've
Speaker 1: decided to no longer be gay. Okay, wait, like he's
Speaker 1: not going to be gay anymore. He's not gonna play
Speaker 1: gay straight straight, and so yeah you know that. He's like,
Speaker 1: it's other notorious ones for playing all the gay part
Speaker 1: and people don't like that because you only can play
Speaker 1: exactly so like I can only play a content film
Speaker 1: in the breakdowns, you can only play that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not fair if a non count plays a count. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's bad representation. It's just not going to be as good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be authentic. Yeah, I mean listen, yeah,
Speaker 1: cont appropriation. We don't need to Let let's see. I'm
Speaker 1: so scared to say that. I can say it. No
Speaker 1: you can't. I don't want to say it. I think
Speaker 1: I think we can call it. We can call each other.
Speaker 1: You could call anything a cunt if it's yours, your
Speaker 1: good friends. And also I think it's how you say it.
Speaker 1: It's just like, can't you know, like you're a cunt,
Speaker 1: or like can't it's whimsical. Well, it belongs in the community,
Speaker 1: in your community, in the community community fage, it belongs
Speaker 1: to us, and I feel like anyone else's fagett. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: but you just said earlier we can call each other
Speaker 1: sees And I was like, but each other, you're not
Speaker 1: including yourself And no, no, I wouldn't. Look. Look, we
Speaker 1: need to have full breakdown of words where they all
Speaker 1: belong to us, they all belong to us all. Look, um,
Speaker 1: were you're gonna say, You're gonna say something if it's
Speaker 1: if it's love, if it's in the if the finger
Speaker 1: isn't the ass, Oh well let's just break it down
Speaker 1: to this. I feel like if some if you get
Speaker 1: to the point where you're enjoying anal fully with someone,
Speaker 1: you gotta hang on to that. I know, right, that's
Speaker 1: that's right in my bed right now. And Christina and
Speaker 1: I have a guard. Christina, and I was like, what's
Speaker 1: the over under on him being there when you go back?
Speaker 1: Because you were like, he might, he might, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. I left him a note,
Speaker 1: no text, a note and written had written on a
Speaker 1: on an index card, I'm coming there. And I put
Speaker 1: a travel toothbrush and toothpaste on the note because it's
Speaker 1: at the top of my staircase. Yeah, it's pretty cute.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty cute. There's joy emanating from you. Yeah. There.
Speaker 1: You know. I just had anal and enjoyed it very
Speaker 1: joy honestly. You know, it's also enjoyable having anal and
Speaker 1: then being like not again, okay, is that your experience? No?
Speaker 1: I mean I listen, I used to have anal like
Speaker 1: semi frequently years ago. Uh, like when I was in college. Beautiful,
Speaker 1: and then you get older and you're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: just don't have to ever do anything. I don't want
Speaker 1: to do. It's fine. It's like it reminds me like
Speaker 1: the Carrie Bradshaw episode where I just call it Carrie Bradshow.
Speaker 1: She's why we're all tuning in, and she was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, like when she's like, oh, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's on the menu. I don't always order it, but sometimes,
Speaker 1: I mean, she wasn't talking about anal, I don't think,
Speaker 1: but she might if that's how I she That's how
Speaker 1: I feel about it, Like it's on the menu. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I'll have it. It's not my favorite thing to Warner,
Speaker 1: but it just seems like it's on this trajectory where
Speaker 1: it was like speaking of sex in the City, like
Speaker 1: the whole Miranda episode where it's like she gets her
Speaker 1: ass what but yeah, yeah, it's like that back then
Speaker 1: in the late nineties early early ots, like it probably
Speaker 1: seemed I guess that's when they were first discovering eating
Speaker 1: the butt, or at least eating the butt and talking
Speaker 1: about it about I rewatched Sex in the City and
Speaker 1: I realized Carrie is very coy about sex. She does
Speaker 1: not talk about it right, and ap refused in her
Speaker 1: contract to you yeah right, right, So that's even are
Speaker 1: just like in that Ballerina. But I love that she
Speaker 1: always did have like, um, clothes, a lot of clothes sex.
Speaker 1: Honestly that this is not my I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: But I don't think so, honey. Clothes, sex and films.
Speaker 1: It's like, that is not how we do it. And
Speaker 1: also you don't have sex with the covers on you
Speaker 1: like I never do. Sometimes I like having sex with
Speaker 1: the brawn because it makes my boobs look pretty good. Right,
Speaker 1: I have this question for um people with boobs post coitus.
Speaker 1: Are you if you have a sheet or a towel
Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, like, if it's just you and
Speaker 1: the other person in the room, are you are you
Speaker 1: wrapping your your thing over you your breast? No? Right, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm leaning on him and my boobs are just against
Speaker 1: his back. Perfect. But let's say you're like going up
Speaker 1: to like get a book off a shelf. Are you?
Speaker 1: And you? I'm so glad you to call me out,
Speaker 1: don't you? I read Entertainment Weekly? Okay, after I pull
Speaker 1: out my rags, I have the first edition of The Pearl,
Speaker 1: and I go get it and I read it. That's
Speaker 1: why it's there. That's beautiful. I read infinite Jess on
Speaker 1: the table like my ideal post coitus activity. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say that after Yeah, I'm so ry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: eating a sandwich, but it has to be like specific,
Speaker 1: like a big sandwich on like a Portuguese roll, Like
Speaker 1: I need a lot of car specific. But I need
Speaker 1: to reload, Like I just said a marathon. Yes, and
Speaker 1: you did do American. Yeah. Sex is hard. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of work. Sex when you're on top. I had
Speaker 1: to take a brand, Like my legs hurt, just stop?
Speaker 1: Can you fuck me now? Yeah, cramps are a real thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't yet know what to do with my abdomen.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well that's a tough a if I'm on
Speaker 1: top that it's like I'm just like it feels like
Speaker 1: a sucking lerch. I'm like, like the physicality presented at
Speaker 1: this moment, I truly wish this were I wish podcasts
Speaker 1: were as people at home. Yeah, that's it. It's just
Speaker 1: like it's it's a dog barking, but imagine like your
Speaker 1: body moving to that. So this is when you're so,
Speaker 1: this is when you're topping, you know, this is when
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm in control, So in the body from
Speaker 1: doing guys y, Yeah, that's why, okay, because it was
Speaker 1: so fun. The advantage, the advantage of butt sex is
Speaker 1: that you can't see each other's abdomens. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you can't. Can you do it? I have butt sex
Speaker 1: face to face? Well, but you're you're a gal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a common misconception. Guys. You can look at
Speaker 1: each other right in the old However, Oh me too.
Speaker 1: I actually I don't like the feel very impersonal the whole,
Speaker 1: Like I can't see your face right, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I was thinking, and that's why I liked it. Um,
Speaker 1: but like even in gay porn. I've watched in gay porn,
Speaker 1: and is that common to see that in gay porn
Speaker 1: because I usually see not to face. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you some can you send me. I've seen guys, I
Speaker 1: like porn face it's very and this is my thing
Speaker 1: with gay porn. I scrub right to the parts where
Speaker 1: they're looking into each other's I need Bernie for eye contact. Honestly,
Speaker 1: there's these porn stars. Um, there's these porn stars and
Speaker 1: they're a couple and you can see the video where
Speaker 1: they met and you can basically watch them. You have
Speaker 1: it's car It's Carter Dan and Alex meecom last name.
Speaker 1: But there's like they're like their Instagram is like having
Speaker 1: an amazing sign with my lover in Paris and it's
Speaker 1: like they say lover. They things like that they met
Speaker 1: in a fucking like war zone set or something like
Speaker 1: they made they like a Justice League porn parody, like
Speaker 1: that's where they met meet it. Oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: what we need. More socially woke porn scenarios. If you're
Speaker 1: going to make a plot, yeah, education, they should do
Speaker 1: a gay sis gay meal porn set at the women's march.
Speaker 1: Woudn't that be fun? Yeah, while we're marching, we'll just
Speaker 1: march around. Just put the bed in the street and
Speaker 1: we'll march around it like they're walking down with your
Speaker 1: sign and like you make eyes. And then the next
Speaker 1: scene is just like you like grabbing your dick and
Speaker 1: going and isn't putting your sign down and just sing
Speaker 1: and laying into it going into the city m D
Speaker 1: and City m D. But the thing was, I was
Speaker 1: at a I was at a sex convention a couple
Speaker 1: of months ago, and there were like cam girls but
Speaker 1: they just had booths like it was fucking comic con.
Speaker 1: There was a mess. There was a mattress on the
Speaker 1: floor and they were just like in the middle, but
Speaker 1: it was it just looked very it was very sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because it's like on concrete trying to sell
Speaker 1: like a crystal to put up your pussy and next
Speaker 1: to you, like I was like I need to go
Speaker 1: wait wait wait what was where was this? It was
Speaker 1: a sex convention in Brooklyn. Did you have a booth?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I would never have a booth any Like, no,
Speaker 1: I went, I walked through this, I go, you know what,
Speaker 1: this is not not me. And then they had some
Speaker 1: puppies that I mean, we're definitely being abused, but you
Speaker 1: could pay a dollar to spend some time with them.
Speaker 1: So I go to the puppies or who oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I went to the person also selling a costume jewelry.
Speaker 1: But I was like, maybe I could make these puppies
Speaker 1: lives brighter for a moment. What do we think about
Speaker 1: the memory span of a dog? Because my fucking mom
Speaker 1: is like she really thinks that. Um, they do because
Speaker 1: when you come home, oh have you ever gotten a
Speaker 1: YouTube black hole of soldiers coming home? Because they remember
Speaker 1: remember years later they remember they remember people by scent.
Speaker 1: But as far as time, like, yeah, I can go
Speaker 1: downstairs and like get a can of diet coke and
Speaker 1: then come back upstairs and my dog will act like
Speaker 1: I've been gone for five days. That's all right. So
Speaker 1: you did make an impact on those dogs. Dogs talk
Speaker 1: and they come up to her and like talk. You
Speaker 1: have a connection with them. Well, I was a dog
Speaker 1: past life. But my mom said, please stop saying that,
Speaker 1: because you're never going to find a high. But I'm
Speaker 1: committed to what would you have been to you? I
Speaker 1: don't I didn't go that deeply into the breed, but
Speaker 1: not like a like a Chinese hairless like one that
Speaker 1: like you're like, I don't want to really be near it,
Speaker 1: but they're rare. That's that's everything you just said is
Speaker 1: me Chinese hairless. I don't want to be near them,
Speaker 1: but but they're rare. You are in a past way.
Speaker 1: I like a Chinese hairless. Yeah, they're pure bread though,
Speaker 1: so like my dogs like a whippet mix, but he's
Speaker 1: very fast. So that's that's not me. That's not always
Speaker 1: like always in a great mood, but has a real
Speaker 1: attitude problem. Honestly, he sighed, I don't know. I've seen
Speaker 1: I've heard him. So I was like, yeah, like you
Speaker 1: get a dog because you don't. It's it's something that's
Speaker 1: breathing and living that doesn't sigh. I think it's hilarious
Speaker 1: that he sighed, like he's like he's cutty to some people.
Speaker 1: And I like, out of all the out of all
Speaker 1: the women in New York, you had to walk into
Speaker 1: my rest, my kennel. I want to go back to
Speaker 1: the sex convention things. So at what point are you like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't get on. Well, it's not
Speaker 1: that you're you're not judging like the cam girl on
Speaker 1: the mattress. No, I'm not judging. I just she had
Speaker 1: I am good a bed frame. Come you had a
Speaker 1: better setup? Because I think if you're in if you're
Speaker 1: in a sex positive environment, I shouldn't be getting a
Speaker 1: tears welling in my if you're in a sex positive environment,
Speaker 1: especially when you're not trying to evoke DearS. Right, if
Speaker 1: they're trying to peddle something, they're trying to sell something,
Speaker 1: that package it nicely, right, I don't care what you're selling.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to like check it out, but don't make
Speaker 1: it look so bleak. Yeah. The other day I was
Speaker 1: on porn um No I was, I was, and I
Speaker 1: was actually I was watching cam guys there I got
Speaker 1: to do that. They're mostly straight, which I kind of
Speaker 1: like I've never seen o, like they're they're straight guys.
Speaker 1: Like there's straight guys that are depends if you want
Speaker 1: to funk them. And it's like, wait, I want to
Speaker 1: watch that. Honestly, it's like these I don't have to
Speaker 1: use room, but I was watching I was, you know
Speaker 1: how like you can like it's like it's like they
Speaker 1: upload the videos that they record onto these porn sites
Speaker 1: and then ing ding and it's people messaging them and
Speaker 1: they're like, I guess Jack talking back. Yeah, but they're
Speaker 1: basically like, you know, having like computer sex with everyone,
Speaker 1: and they make money. They make queen dollars. But I
Speaker 1: didn't know that you can go, you can just go
Speaker 1: and be a void to camp people even when it's
Speaker 1: happening in real time, because you can just once time
Speaker 1: like our friend Lena the Plug does conversity, and so
Speaker 1: I just clicked on it because I was curious. Even
Speaker 1: tho I feel uncomfortable watching people. I know do it
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I'm just in the room.
Speaker 1: I don't have to pay or log it in. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you just watch it, it's weird style. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like they're on there for like so long. A lot
Speaker 1: of it is just like watching her eat girl chicken
Speaker 1: and asparagus on a plane in like a hot way
Speaker 1: or in a regular Guys get into what I have
Speaker 1: to eat. Yeah, it's just living their lives. Watch what
Speaker 1: it becomes like a cooking sensation, like slash like sucking
Speaker 1: in a garden type somebody's SMR people though I can't
Speaker 1: make so much money, and all they do is they
Speaker 1: just talk and they're just like they do like the
Speaker 1: girlfriend experience, the boyfriend experience where they're like, how's your days?
Speaker 1: Like I felt like it's it's crazy and like it's
Speaker 1: through these like nineteen year old people who are just
Speaker 1: like it's just being like cocatty, cocatty, cocatty, and it's
Speaker 1: do you watch that? I've never gotten but you seem
Speaker 1: maledgeable on the subject. And you know what was my
Speaker 1: gateway was fucking Cardi B did this a SMR video
Speaker 1: for She's amazing at it she knows her stuff, and
Speaker 1: she like knows what the triggers are, and she taps
Speaker 1: her nails on like this baby toy, like she knows
Speaker 1: she's seen the videos before because she's mimicking because other
Speaker 1: celebrities do it, like they don't really they're kind of
Speaker 1: like dicking around. Cardis like in the video she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do the whisper, but she was like,
Speaker 1: my husband thinks it's very weird. But I watch a
Speaker 1: SMR every single night and it's like, oh, so she
Speaker 1: is into it, but like I watched that, then I
Speaker 1: start I fell into this rabbit hole of a SMR
Speaker 1: people who have millions of subscribers mad box and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this. Next one is me tapping my finger
Speaker 1: nails on this shampoo bottle. Um, this is videl, says student.
Speaker 1: I've gotten a lot. Why did they describe it? Well,
Speaker 1: they describe it because they're like because they're like I've
Speaker 1: got They're like, I've gotten a lot of re for
Speaker 1: this bottle. They love they love the lacquer on this bottle,
Speaker 1: and everyone gets fucking crazy about is it for masturbational
Speaker 1: for some people? For some some people it's about calming, relaxation.
Speaker 1: Some people, it's about like feeling like they have a
Speaker 1: significant other like girlfriend experienced, boyfriend experience. For some people
Speaker 1: they do just jack off to it. I'm going to
Speaker 1: do all three. I can see that happening. Phantom dick
Speaker 1: right now, Oh my god. Yeah, and if and you
Speaker 1: have phantom prostate, phantom but hole, phantom dick, but don't
Speaker 1: actually have about hole in real life. But but but
Speaker 1: now you do sant phantom butthole is actually what they
Speaker 1: were going to call phantom thread. And they changed as
Speaker 1: a cript like I will not do this phantom phantom butthole,
Speaker 1: um would you? I'm like, what I would I do?
Speaker 1: Well at SMR, I think you would. I think you're
Speaker 1: really into it. I see your glow. I think you
Speaker 1: guys you could. You can do. You have to be
Speaker 1: careful though, because it's real quick when you can just
Speaker 1: veer off into like sound effects for a future film.
Speaker 1: It's like walking through like this a fine line between
Speaker 1: like SMR performer yes, and but then like that's like
Speaker 1: a path to an oscar. Absolutely, that's really what it is.
Speaker 1: I asked my people who are just young talents trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out in this industry, Yeah, what was
Speaker 1: your gateway? Wait, so there's a YouTube thing where celebrities
Speaker 1: do this and Cardi b it's demumenting, and I think
Speaker 1: it's like a brilliant idea to have celebrities like I
Speaker 1: think they give them like um like like too fluffy,
Speaker 1: Like I'm already tricking celebrities into doing sex work because
Speaker 1: that's what I've seen. I mean, Cardi is already funny
Speaker 1: reality celebrities. We watched The Mass Singer the Other need
Speaker 1: I know about it, but I didn't watch it yet,
Speaker 1: so I'm curious, you guys professional culture opinion on it
Speaker 1: and literally okay, so this is our professional culture opinion
Speaker 1: on it. We watched it and it's so stupid literally basic.
Speaker 1: So what it is is, it's exactly the title. It's
Speaker 1: celebrities are in full costumes. They're completely masked, and they're
Speaker 1: on these stupid things like a rabbit costume and alien costume,
Speaker 1: like a big costume, times squarees costumes like like like
Speaker 1: a parrot. Someone was like just like crazy. One of
Speaker 1: them was like a SpongeBob type thing and it was
Speaker 1: just like so basically what they get paired off and
Speaker 1: we can't see the celebrity, but before they perform, they
Speaker 1: give hints and clues as to what celebrity they are
Speaker 1: in real life, and apparently we're to believe they're like
Speaker 1: a list celebrities quote unquote. I was like, what caliber
Speaker 1: OfTI they would say a list, But of course when
Speaker 1: any of the show says a list, they literally mean
Speaker 1: like Joey Fatone, so that very well it could be
Speaker 1: one of the actual singers. Joey Forte. Why one time
Speaker 1: walked next to in Universal Studios, Florida, and not a
Speaker 1: soul knew it was him, And I was like, literally,
Speaker 1: this man was one of the biggest pop stars in
Speaker 1: the world and he is fully here with this family
Speaker 1: and no one, no one cares about. In fact, I'm
Speaker 1: the only person who even notices and he's not like
Speaker 1: a small person who's notice him. You notice him. And
Speaker 1: so anyway, um, there are some rumors that he is
Speaker 1: one of the singers because a lot of the clues
Speaker 1: were really leaning into that we really don't know, you
Speaker 1: don't know, So what happened was always available the same bunch,
Speaker 1: they get paired up and then the celebrity judges, which
Speaker 1: are fucking Jenny McCarthy, Nicole Scherzinger, Ken John and Robin Fick,
Speaker 1: who apparently we're still permitting to Like I was like,
Speaker 1: didn't we say no? We said yeah, I thought he
Speaker 1: went inside. It's actually real culture number forty eight, we
Speaker 1: said no. Sucking Paula Patton Ship is unforgiving anyway. But
Speaker 1: like basically, like this is the judging panel and they
Speaker 1: after after the singers perform like stupid songs like this,
Speaker 1: the like Rabbit performed Live in Love You to Loca
Speaker 1: and he ended up winning. And so then when you
Speaker 1: lose your round, you're at risk of getting eliminated. In
Speaker 1: every episode someone gets elimited, and there are has it
Speaker 1: been any shockers? The one before that was like an
Speaker 1: ex athlete, like people that didn't know take it money
Speaker 1: or a prize or like just first place. They all
Speaker 1: want to be singers. I guys, I was like, because
Speaker 1: I was so non singers are singing. I thought we
Speaker 1: were guessing the voice of people who are singers, both
Speaker 1: because Joey like it was like singing, but it wasn't singing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was like it was
Speaker 1: like it was like you definitely singing this money money, money, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he literally said the end of his clue clip
Speaker 1: was and you know that at the end of the competition,
Speaker 1: one person is going to be standing and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be me, So like, was it? It was? Really? And
Speaker 1: actually the judges were like, I think it's um, they
Speaker 1: think it's Lance pass. Now I don't think it is.
Speaker 1: But right, he was the base of the group. But
Speaker 1: Lance is a lot shorter than Joey. I mean, are
Speaker 1: they wearing stilts, because otherwise we can tell by how
Speaker 1: I've met Lance in person, he's a he's this little guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they pad out the costumes too, so it's
Speaker 1: like you can't really tell my body shape. And it's
Speaker 1: truly was. But but we're watching it and we're just like,
Speaker 1: this is like it feels like a fake TV show.
Speaker 1: This is Christoper movie. You can't believe this is where
Speaker 1: we're at. Like we were watching it with and we
Speaker 1: we're like, Okay, this is entertainment. The world will end,
Speaker 1: Like this is the apocolypse. This is the apocalyse. This
Speaker 1: is what happens when we have eighty seven thousand channels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you meant you need to start so much content in
Speaker 1: sane it's insane. But anyway, UM, I don't know what
Speaker 1: my point with this was. I think the cultural opinion
Speaker 1: that we have on it is I mean, like we
Speaker 1: watched it. It was there, it was there. I mean,
Speaker 1: it allowed, it entertained us. We did fast forwards. I
Speaker 1: wanted to see who just one of the celebrities were,
Speaker 1: Tommy Chong. It was Tommy Chong, which was like it
Speaker 1: was it was good. I mean my mom would be excited. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's so funny though, because the first guy that they revealed,
Speaker 1: like this football player, athlete or whatever, you could tell
Speaker 1: the judges like the Ko Singer was like I knew it.
Speaker 1: It's you. It's like no one knows. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That's great. Also, I have to say it on the pod,
Speaker 1: what Nicole Scherzinger is the doubleganger of Patty Harris Patty
Speaker 1: Harrison from Patty Harrison. Yeah. Okay, so now we're getting
Speaker 1: into culture. Should we ask the question? We're gonna ask
Speaker 1: the question. So we asked this to all of our
Speaker 1: guests and we'll start. Let's start with Karen Um. We
Speaker 1: asked her guests, what was the culture that made you
Speaker 1: say culture is for me? Which just means that which
Speaker 1: just means what was the thing that like was formative
Speaker 1: for you when you grew up culturally, Like it could
Speaker 1: be it could be a book, a movie, a TV show,
Speaker 1: a neighborhood, someplace you grew out a person in your life,
Speaker 1: Like there was something that was formative. I mean for me,
Speaker 1: it has to be the Spice Girls. I was thinking this.
Speaker 1: I was like, I think mine might be the Spice Girls.
Speaker 1: It's huge for everyone. And that's amazing answer. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Spice And also I mean, like I thank them in
Speaker 1: the in the front of our book one of the
Speaker 1: I think the Spice Girls and my mom, the Spice
Speaker 1: Girls had like such a such an impact on who
Speaker 1: I am and I always think about, like my whole life.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be a Spice Girl, and I
Speaker 1: kind of became one, like you think of if you
Speaker 1: think of it very like just by exactly what they did. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not a singer and I'm not a dancer, but
Speaker 1: like what was the essence of being a Spice Girl.
Speaker 1: It's like being a woman in charge of your own body,
Speaker 1: saying what you want to say, putting friends over relationships.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I became a Spice girl. I did
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. They were talking about feminism
Speaker 1: early to they were I remember, like they mentioned it
Speaker 1: often in their songs and it's definitely in the movie,
Speaker 1: like yeah, and like they were like, I'm very into
Speaker 1: the branding of feminism because everything has to be branded,
Speaker 1: because if you want people to be on board, you
Speaker 1: gotta sell it to them. And I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of bad branding in feminism. But those Spice girls
Speaker 1: made it really palatable basically and fun and not too serious.
Speaker 1: But they stood up for themselves in a way that
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I can get behind this, total loved it.
Speaker 1: Did you identify with one more than the other? So yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was Posh Bye from day one talks
Speaker 1: the least, but when she does, it's like she hits it. Yeah, Honestly,
Speaker 1: there's nothing funny. I think that Posh by gives the
Speaker 1: standout performance in Spice World by far. I really do.
Speaker 1: And there's nothing funnier to me. It is my entire
Speaker 1: communic sensibility is when they all get on that like
Speaker 1: product of course, and you just see Posh walk slowly
Speaker 1: on the side just like I love that. I thought
Speaker 1: it was the funniest thing. I was like nine. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And also her line reads of when they when they
Speaker 1: fall off the boat to that my Boy Lollipop song
Speaker 1: and she goes, this dress is dry kling. Only shut up, Jerry.
Speaker 1: She's just like, literally, hits, you're right, she speaks the least,
Speaker 1: but when she speaks it is right. I'd like it too.
Speaker 1: But I mean she's driving the bus, she's she's going
Speaker 1: Sunday drive us. I like that one. And then when
Speaker 1: they cut from the actual bus to the little toy
Speaker 1: bus because they're like that's going to be expensive, notarily.
Speaker 1: I just love it. It's funny. And also that this
Speaker 1: is the line I was thinking of, Um they go
Speaker 1: through in the hospital, she goes my eyespy with my
Speaker 1: little eye something blue and they go hospital and shut up.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm fucking love this movie because it
Speaker 1: seems like the real thing. It seems they had that hemistry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there like, god, that is that ever going to
Speaker 1: happen again? Like with where like a huge world wide
Speaker 1: worldwide sensation band. That's like a scripted movie, scripted right,
Speaker 1: it was in this It was in the Hard Days
Speaker 1: but actually critically Hard Days Night was not very well
Speaker 1: received and Spice rolled act. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people were like, that was kind of good because it's
Speaker 1: very British. I got the bootleg vhs that flea market
Speaker 1: and that's how I saw it, and it's fun. I
Speaker 1: went to a screening a couple of years ago in
Speaker 1: in Manhattan with a bunch of you know, people were
Speaker 1: living their childhood and it was great. Yeah, somebody give
Speaker 1: you a Spice Girls banner one of our shows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone had like a huge vinyl thing printed and he
Speaker 1: like drove it in from like hours away. Didn't bring
Speaker 1: it to this show because they're like, we didn't know
Speaker 1: if we would be allowed in. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not banning Spice Girls banners from the
Speaker 1: showing free ticket. Yeah. They came back and I was like, yo, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mailed it home to myself and it's in
Speaker 1: my closet. I just I mean, that can't be thrown away.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing with it, but what
Speaker 1: did it say on It was just it's just a
Speaker 1: huge vinyl of the them. One of the movie promo
Speaker 1: picks with them over that glitterary picture. They were so iconic,
Speaker 1: like that union Jack dress is forever. That's a part
Speaker 1: of history, that's a part of culture. Like babies, like
Speaker 1: little pigtails. Those they were styled impeccably, just like that
Speaker 1: is like a hair moment for for all time. And
Speaker 1: their shoes, I mean, Steve Madden started making those shoes,
Speaker 1: those platforms shoes. I still have them. I mean, platforms
Speaker 1: are also way better for you speaking of feminism, because
Speaker 1: you're not you're not hurting your knees because you're just higher.
Speaker 1: Favorite song do you have one? Yeah? I mean I
Speaker 1: think so You'll be There to me is the strongest song.
Speaker 1: So You'll Be There is incredible. I also think there
Speaker 1: Everence of Wanna Be is just like wow, Like that's
Speaker 1: that was truly written in a moment of like, let's
Speaker 1: write something fun. That's what I like that cookie fun.
Speaker 1: It's like it didn't have to I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: like it had sign up from like all these fucking
Speaker 1: label people, but it's like now it's like you gotta
Speaker 1: get really, you gotta have you gotta be in your
Speaker 1: imperial phase in order to put out to do something
Speaker 1: that outside the box. That was their first thing at
Speaker 1: the Gate it was like cooky fun different, like timeless. Well,
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone did some kind of a survey, and want
Speaker 1: to Be is the second. Uh most like you can
Speaker 1: hear the least of it and people can what it is.
Speaker 1: So you can hear like five seconds of it or something.
Speaker 1: And there's only one song that people can identify faster
Speaker 1: than want to Be. I don't know. I think three was,
Speaker 1: I have the Tiger. I can't remember what one was.
Speaker 1: One was something might have been something crazy like Mambo
Speaker 1: number five or something, you know what. I would guests
Speaker 1: and this is kind of crazy. We are the champions,
Speaker 1: like well, actually it's not about like iconic, like if
Speaker 1: it's iconic or not. It's about recognizable within a snippet
Speaker 1: like that time saying but want to Be. It's like
Speaker 1: don't donu donu no no no no like you. That's
Speaker 1: want to Be, Like I feel like the cord proof
Speaker 1: the Chords or something like or if it's the track
Speaker 1: from the actual album, it's it's the Heels Heels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's also I have to say underrated, well not underrated,
Speaker 1: it's it's one of their biggest hits, but to become
Speaker 1: one I come on. So when they did their reunion
Speaker 1: when remember when they went back on tour the first time.
Speaker 1: I was the first time I was there a second time,
Speaker 1: I'll probably have to fly to the UK for this time,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I would love to go. I would love
Speaker 1: to see them. I want to see them very bad.
Speaker 1: I remember they performed to Become One on Strictly Come Dancing,
Speaker 1: and again they have these amazing hats like they were
Speaker 1: like it was they were a dressed like they were
Speaker 1: in the video, and I was like, this is such
Speaker 1: a fun like remembrance of this. And you listen to
Speaker 1: the lyrics and they were talking about like using condoms.
Speaker 1: They're talking about safe sex, put it on, put it
Speaker 1: on music like the nineties when that was and you
Speaker 1: know that actually I think maybe pre dates Sex in
Speaker 1: the City by a couple of years. Pepper was before Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that was the first song I ever heard that
Speaker 1: was like, oh ship you can like stand up to.
Speaker 1: And also, yeah, she Become One is like one of
Speaker 1: the best fucking songs baby making songs. And I think, um,
Speaker 1: fucking wait, no, no, no, no no, to Become One
Speaker 1: of the music video where they're on They're all over
Speaker 1: New York right, yes, yes, and Emma and babies like
Speaker 1: she got she's got a beautiful voice to every well
Speaker 1: they record, they shot it and then they like shot
Speaker 1: it at double speed. They slow motioned it so that
Speaker 1: it's like the city is like zooming around. But they're
Speaker 1: just like it's so good. Yeah, No, they were amazing
Speaker 1: that and you know who, you know who like put
Speaker 1: them together in packaged them and they Simon Call released
Speaker 1: a book like years ago, like when I was really
Speaker 1: drinking the American idol cool A, I bought Simon Call's book.
Speaker 1: When I read, honestly, he talks a lot about like
Speaker 1: when the Spice Girls first hit, and he said that
Speaker 1: it's like it was like this undeniable thing like everyone
Speaker 1: in the industry like they heard want to Be before
Speaker 1: everyone else. And then it was like the next day
Speaker 1: everyone heard it, and it was like this moment in
Speaker 1: time where everyone can remember I have this with one
Speaker 1: other artist. I remember where I was when I found
Speaker 1: out about Britney Spears because it caught like fire. I
Speaker 1: remember one day I didn't know who she was. The
Speaker 1: next day it was maybe one more time, like everyone
Speaker 1: was like, did you see Britney Spears And I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: and that he talks about that in the book too,
Speaker 1: because interestingly enough, TLC turned down the song um Baby
Speaker 1: one More Time that was like a song that they
Speaker 1: had in the industry, and this art, this um ended
Speaker 1: up with it. And Simon Collett in the book or
Speaker 1: like in some interview that I read, was like he
Speaker 1: was he couldn't believe that, like this unknown artist was
Speaker 1: getting maybe one more time and the person that that
Speaker 1: was working with her, I forget who it was, was like, no,
Speaker 1: you don't understand, Like it has to go to this artist.
Speaker 1: It has to go to this artist Britney Yes, And
Speaker 1: Simon was like, well who is it? And they said
Speaker 1: her name is Britney Spears. And Simon was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know you're going to have a hit with an
Speaker 1: artist named Brittney Spears. And then like just from the
Speaker 1: name like that that sounds like something, and then you
Speaker 1: heard the song and the iconic and and then you're
Speaker 1: just like there is something in the name. Though it's
Speaker 1: like okay, You're like I want to know more. I
Speaker 1: remember the place. I remember I was where I was too.
Speaker 1: I was in my living room in Canada, lying on
Speaker 1: my stomach, my sister put it on. I was like,
Speaker 1: who is this? Took the album cover. I remember the
Speaker 1: moment that I looked at the cover and looked her
Speaker 1: in that outfit, just like like, oh, I'm on board,
Speaker 1: Yes I have I have to own that album now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know that's that's crazy. Spice girls
Speaker 1: were like that. Yeah. Because I don't remember where I
Speaker 1: was when I heard Baby one more time, but I
Speaker 1: absolutely I remember the moment, the whole scenario when I
Speaker 1: the first time I heard want to Be because I
Speaker 1: had like I guess it was you and Rod that
Speaker 1: I had on and I would always have that on
Speaker 1: while I was doing my homework. I was doing homework
Speaker 1: at this little tea table I had in my bedroom
Speaker 1: and it was I mean it was like a movie.
Speaker 1: Like I like dropped my pencil and I got up
Speaker 1: and I went over and I mean, you don't have
Speaker 1: Shazam at the time, but I was like, who who
Speaker 1: is this? What is happening? And I couldn't stop thinking
Speaker 1: about I went to school the next day. I'm telling
Speaker 1: everyone about it. Guys. No, no, no, you need have
Speaker 1: you heard this song? Because this is this is the
Speaker 1: new thing? Okay, our lives When you listen to it,
Speaker 1: you feel like you're tasting something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like it feels every it's a great pop song. Um,
Speaker 1: did you thing? I would read the liner notes? Oh
Speaker 1: me too, I was so okay, So I was so crazy.
Speaker 1: I remember one time I was rehearsing for a play
Speaker 1: in high school and this is when uh Forever came out,
Speaker 1: which is the album that no one listened to. It
Speaker 1: sold like literally like twenty six thousand copies, which in
Speaker 1: comparison to record sales for the first two it's like
Speaker 1: like I could sell um like truly, I think we
Speaker 1: sold more books than they did. Album like that to
Speaker 1: real it's real bad. So I would have I have
Speaker 1: a process where I was rehearsing a play. I was
Speaker 1: going really badly. Everyone was calling because I needed to
Speaker 1: get to rehearsal, and I said, oh, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: guess you didn't hear because not a lot of people
Speaker 1: did that Forever came out today, and so I had
Speaker 1: to listen to the whole album once in silence in
Speaker 1: my room, and then I listened to it again immediately
Speaker 1: after while reading the liner notes. And that was my
Speaker 1: process for any album that I really care you could
Speaker 1: get off you guys, thank you next crazy are you?
Speaker 1: And then like there's some good songs off Forever though, holler,
Speaker 1: I sang do you want to know something? At my
Speaker 1: high school graduation, I sang with three other girls goodbye
Speaker 1: bye the Spice Girls, and it was my idea's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful song, and the videos and it's all
Speaker 1: it's snowy. It makes me think, so we're also forgetting
Speaker 1: about spicetop. Yeah, fucking Ariel our front arial. He's like
Speaker 1: instructor played too much yesterday on the bike. I was like,
Speaker 1: I love That's an iconic scene in the movie too.
Speaker 1: There's just so many. I also like the one where
Speaker 1: the ass lists guys come out, come on, come on.
Speaker 1: I just love that song. It's not an official Spice
Speaker 1: Girls song, but yeah, you couldn't find me it's not
Speaker 1: because it's not. And when they were very big about
Speaker 1: all having writing credits, so most of their songs, if
Speaker 1: not all of them, maybe not in Forever because they
Speaker 1: got a dark child involved, you know, dark time doing
Speaker 1: what everyone else is doing. Right, Yeah, they lost it.
Speaker 1: And I mean that Jerry had left by that point
Speaker 1: because she thought she was going to be Beyonce and
Speaker 1: she's not, and it was not great. Have you ever
Speaker 1: Like there's very available now is like documentary footage about
Speaker 1: the breakup, and they'll they'll all sit down and like
Speaker 1: really talk about what happened. And so it's kind of
Speaker 1: crazy because literally all the rumors at that time were
Speaker 1: Jerry and Scary fighting about like he was going to
Speaker 1: make creative decisions for the group or like to be
Speaker 1: the primary like Paul McCartney and John Lennon classic story,
Speaker 1: And apparently that kind of is what went down. Like
Speaker 1: they always butted heads, they were they were incredibly close
Speaker 1: and um, I think still are remained close to this day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're all on good terms. Again. Past doesn't want
Speaker 1: to do the tour. Yeah, Well, anyone who thought because
Speaker 1: her and I was like, guys, if you really knew
Speaker 1: the Spice Girls, you would have not known going into
Speaker 1: this that she was not going to be a part
Speaker 1: of the reunion. She's been very open about that. I
Speaker 1: mean she's like she's like, guys, I really like, I'm
Speaker 1: not a good singer. Like that's why I love her
Speaker 1: because she's like, yeah, and I'm not a great singer.
Speaker 1: She knows, she knows what her value is, but she
Speaker 1: has like a fashion line. She's a hot husband. She's
Speaker 1: doing so well. Her brand is doing the sales army.
Speaker 1: I mean she's she was already rich before the Spice Girls,
Speaker 1: and then she got Spice Girl rich, then she'd married
Speaker 1: David Beckham and now her brand is insanely well. They
Speaker 1: are no joke famous and yeah the UK they are top.
Speaker 1: But also considering how famous the Spice Girls are, they
Speaker 1: haven't had any really huge like issues or scams or
Speaker 1: media things. They came at the exact last time. I
Speaker 1: think they could have, honestly, because they kind of like
Speaker 1: hit and had their Imperial phase moment and then kind
Speaker 1: of faded out right before and the beginnings of LI
Speaker 1: A O L social media like in a real way.
Speaker 1: And because the next thing was Brittany, the next was Brittany,
Speaker 1: I think, um and say, the last thing I will
Speaker 1: say about the Spice Girls is the reunion single Headlines
Speaker 1: is very good. I can't I can't believe you even
Speaker 1: know headlines. You're you're a real fan. I fucking loved them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so funny because but at the did you go
Speaker 1: to the re so so when they started singing headlines,
Speaker 1: everyone was just like you can tell, you can tell
Speaker 1: who like the super fans were because I knew the lyrics,
Speaker 1: but like no one didn't there what's this fine? What's
Speaker 1: this one? And it was, I mean, it was hilarious
Speaker 1: and embarrassing. Do you remember when they did the Olympics
Speaker 1: in London and they came out of that was so good, iconic,
Speaker 1: so good. Um, okay, that's a great answer. We move
Speaker 1: on to go around the room and say which spice
Speaker 1: girl you are? Now we know, Um, I'm scary, like
Speaker 1: ethnic whatever. Don't do that to yourself. I believe that
Speaker 1: you are scary. I think I am scary, like I
Speaker 1: think like I like she just like whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: have like the same like I don't have as much
Speaker 1: like charming personality as she does, but like, yes you do, stupid.
Speaker 1: I'm someone who's just like who feels good about I
Speaker 1: feel okay about being Like Meloby is low key a superstar,
Speaker 1: nobody's amazing and she was real dancing with the stars.
Speaker 1: She remembered. She was yeah, yeah, okay, that's me. You go.
Speaker 1: I think that I actually am Jerry Wow, that you
Speaker 1: are her. I think I am Jerry. Jerry's the mess singer. God,
Speaker 1: I thought I know one of her songs even scream
Speaker 1: if you Bought to Go Faster. And she also did
Speaker 1: a bad cover of its raining Man, So I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's not like a New York guy, it's raining man.
Speaker 1: She just her first single was was looked at Me.
Speaker 1: Remember that look at Me? I loved that, alright, But
Speaker 1: I also have baby tendencies. I think you're you know,
Speaker 1: I believe you're Jerry. Okay, Jerry was my favorite. Spice
Speaker 1: is my favorite. But maybe who who I am the most?
Speaker 1: I don't know, fucking Sporty. I was going to say
Speaker 1: sport I think I think Sporty is. First of all,
Speaker 1: you can never deny that Sporty was the well maybe
Speaker 1: the only one with a great voice. I mean she
Speaker 1: had a great yeah singing. I mean, I mean she
Speaker 1: was really saying she was the sound of the Spice GROLs.
Speaker 1: And also you can never forget sound like a fool.
Speaker 1: The son was hot at gay clubs for a really
Speaker 1: good song, and she did and then and then left
Speaker 1: I rest in peace in Oh my god, it was
Speaker 1: really really good moment. Oh my god. Wait, everyone has
Speaker 1: all the listeners you have to listen to. I turned
Speaker 1: to you and maybe even Arial Padia should play that
Speaker 1: in class. I think that would be the guy just
Speaker 1: to to tell cycle too. I think that is that
Speaker 1: would signal the end of the world. It's so gay,
Speaker 1: it's very gay. It's so gay. Okay, um, okay, So
Speaker 1: Christina's it's now time. Well, I'm very highly represented the
Speaker 1: Spice Christina Christine Posh. Sorry sorry, I got so flustered there.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yes, um, you're Posh, we know,
Speaker 1: and also I do. I just don't think there can
Speaker 1: be two posses at one table, or else I would
Speaker 1: have really made a run for Posh. Yeah. Um, but
Speaker 1: I think you're producer Emma's baby. Well, who do you
Speaker 1: feel you are? What do you feel you rama? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got all five pretty good, and we will fight
Speaker 1: and this will brawl, burn to the ground, and I
Speaker 1: would be the one to break off and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm going so low and no one gives a Well,
Speaker 1: it's so cocky of Jerry because she was one of
Speaker 1: the he was not an original Spice girl. There was
Speaker 1: a woman named Michelle Stephens says mom got sick and
Speaker 1: then and then She's like, I gotta go. And then
Speaker 1: and then Jerry, like Jerry was kept calling because the
Speaker 1: original group was they answered and ad and then they
Speaker 1: turned against that guy because he was trying to sell
Speaker 1: them a deal that wasn't but they loved each other
Speaker 1: so that we're going to find a deal elsewhere in
Speaker 1: the industry, which I mean so feminist Michelle, So Michelle
Speaker 1: was in it, and then like there was literally Jerry
Speaker 1: just like kept going like they were like, I guess
Speaker 1: we'll let this vision. Isn't that so funny? The movie?
Speaker 1: The movie is going to be so good. The actual
Speaker 1: like biopic of the Spice Girl was that in development? No,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like it Okay, I think we all
Speaker 1: go in on it with a VPS and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna say we can produce it. Yeah, we can get
Speaker 1: this to happen and we can go fund me it whatever. Christina, Um,
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say culture is
Speaker 1: for me? Saturday night Life? Yes, okay, great from the seventies.
Speaker 1: And I've read all the books, I've seen all the
Speaker 1: episode I interned. I moved here so I can intern there. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't have an internship when I moved here, but
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna get one. You can't intern
Speaker 1: unless you're in college. So the last semester of my
Speaker 1: college career, after three failed interviews, Dia Moles felt bad
Speaker 1: for me. It was like she called me and said
Speaker 1: I didn't get it, and I was like, okay, if
Speaker 1: anybody quit, call me, and she was like okay. It
Speaker 1: was also the day my grandpa died. And then she
Speaker 1: called me right back, like twenty minutes later. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what come in on Tuesdays and Saturdays And
Speaker 1: I was like, so, what did you do there? I? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I helped this lady preya rap chords. I didn't really
Speaker 1: have much to do. My god, they surely didn't have
Speaker 1: any cards iconic quote and set people into the cafeteria
Speaker 1: and I get around. I would ask like Andy Samber
Speaker 1: what he wanted for dinner? Ordered for certain people were
Speaker 1: doing digital shorts. Oh my god, you gotta put that
Speaker 1: thing on your resume. She did what you wanted for lunch. Sometimes, yeah,
Speaker 1: she didn't want me there because there was one for
Speaker 1: me to do. I kept yeah, Pria didn't want me
Speaker 1: there because I was like in the way, But I god,
Speaker 1: I knew to keep quiet, I knew not to be annoying.
Speaker 1: The thing is, I feel I feel like the interns.
Speaker 1: I'm like this, this is such a gross thing for
Speaker 1: me to say. But the nicest thing about before I
Speaker 1: went on break was all the like a bunch of
Speaker 1: interns left a card on my desk being like like,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for like learning my name and
Speaker 1: like saying me. I was like, yeah, like yeah, human being.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's not like a normal thing. They're now, um,
Speaker 1: it's not normally, you know. The cat the cast was
Speaker 1: so nice. Okay, great, the cast is almost were like,
Speaker 1: it's not a normal any internships, like interning a queer
Speaker 1: eye and no one knew my name. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, the first one first people knew any When
Speaker 1: I interned, I made an impression great wrapping those chords.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, all day they're all you coming, Your
Speaker 1: cords are all around. Looked at the cords and she
Speaker 1: was like, this looks like this girl's got something. She
Speaker 1: wrapped these cords really well. Even though I initially didn't
Speaker 1: want her here. Initially I didn't want this girl wrapping
Speaker 1: cords or even touching my chords at all. But looking
Speaker 1: at these piles. She can stay. Like the last day
Speaker 1: of my internship, she told me something personal about her
Speaker 1: life and I felt so brought in great yeah and
Speaker 1: then she got but yeah she was cool. I liked her.
Speaker 1: I liked everybody. Haven't we always been a fan of
Speaker 1: used to fan? Oh my god, yeah, I've I've half
Speaker 1: asked auditions for them or submission like a real because
Speaker 1: I'm too scared because I love it too much. It's
Speaker 1: it's one of those. It's one of those. But it's
Speaker 1: like it truly it's whatever. Being on the other side
Speaker 1: of it, it's like, just took a regular place to work,
Speaker 1: which sounds insane. It's become very it's become very demystified.
Speaker 1: Being so close to it, it's like, Wow, it really
Speaker 1: isn't just a workplace. And they work hard a Saturday
Speaker 1: Saturday when you watch them quick change and then there's
Speaker 1: a horse in the fucking hallway and then you walk
Speaker 1: by Beyonce like the episode the season were Betty White
Speaker 1: and jay Z. That was the season I entered past
Speaker 1: a panic attack and she's my favorite person in the world,
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, but I and then the season finale,
Speaker 1: every party is on this ice skating rink right right,
Speaker 1: I went up, I went back up. I learned like,
Speaker 1: oh we could go back upstairs in this particular evening,
Speaker 1: um in that party, and I just like ran around
Speaker 1: eight h by myself, and I just like I was
Speaker 1: like I would never for it every second of this moment,
Speaker 1: Like I had the whole studio myself, and I was
Speaker 1: just like I just stared at everything and touched the
Speaker 1: curtains of the dress. I'm obsessed with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: being there is surreal. Being there is surreal. But's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's television history. I mean, yes, it's it's iconic.
Speaker 1: It's their rock star stars. Like when I when I
Speaker 1: used to watch this eighties my favorite five Years band,
Speaker 1: and it was just like they're rock stars there, the Beatles. Ye.
Speaker 1: So so then then you go against this theory that
Speaker 1: Lauren has that it's like everyone's favorite cast is from
Speaker 1: when they were in high school. You are a fan
Speaker 1: of that for this first is my favor? Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you seen this documentary? I need to see. Yes,
Speaker 1: and she narrates it. It's so beautiful. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: gorgeous documentary. Just god. Book I've read her books so
Speaker 1: many times, her her thing what was the theater? What
Speaker 1: did you do the theater? That was her at the
Speaker 1: Beacon No, her at the Broadway show, her Broadway show. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I forgot what theater it was, but that's it was
Speaker 1: so sweet. Oh my god. The animals like so amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's incredible. Yeah. That one quote she has in her book,
Speaker 1: it's like, um, I always will lust after men, no
Speaker 1: matter what happens with men. I'm always horny for my
Speaker 1: creativity like that. And I was like, yes, I totally
Speaker 1: she and Gane Wilder that's like a iconic and Bill
Speaker 1: Murray had like yeah right really yeah yeah. And when
Speaker 1: she was really sick, like the last time the cast
Speaker 1: ever saw her, Bill Murray like picked her up and
Speaker 1: like didn't want to believe she was sick and like
Speaker 1: like like threw her at everybody one at a time,
Speaker 1: just like say hi and buy. Yeah. It was really
Speaker 1: oh my god, because like those what are the characters
Speaker 1: they do when when Bill Murray and her are playing
Speaker 1: like the yeah, so wirds, can you can kind of
Speaker 1: tell you can sense it when they're doing those characters.
Speaker 1: But I mean there was also like because as that
Speaker 1: was when they were like into each other because you
Speaker 1: were the big SML book, right, the chunky did you
Speaker 1: from New York? Yes, I have it. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: have it and I finished it. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: But I was like, it's that good that I was
Speaker 1: like and plus like it's conversations and it keeps skipping
Speaker 1: but in it because I'm like they're talking about like
Speaker 1: Bill Murray was like a little bit mean to Guilda. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's and it's a very weird dynamic her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, her relationships with men are fats and yeah,
Speaker 1: she fell in love all the time, and I love
Speaker 1: That's why it's like me, I fell in love with
Speaker 1: so many people all the time. Jane Curtin talks about
Speaker 1: she was on Watch What Happens Live. Jane Kurtin and
Speaker 1: Andy asked quite a bit about S and L, and
Speaker 1: Jane says that the way that the men kind of
Speaker 1: like treated Gilda was different than the way they treated
Speaker 1: Jane because jane strengths were more kind of being a
Speaker 1: straight man like kind of like um, you know, doing
Speaker 1: weekend Update and things like that, and like she said,
Speaker 1: like Gilda was Guilda like she was just kind of
Speaker 1: accepted as like one of the guys, which like came
Speaker 1: with its own I guess baggage for her. But Jane
Speaker 1: was saying, like being there was like a whole different
Speaker 1: experience for her because it's like the way that they
Speaker 1: regarded women at that time was just completely different. And
Speaker 1: they always had respect for Gilda. I think they knew
Speaker 1: Gilda was a legend and there was no way that
Speaker 1: they could fight it. So they're like, I guess we'll
Speaker 1: just let her join. Yeah, it's just the most adorable,
Speaker 1: Like you just love God's Yeah, just you fall There's
Speaker 1: very few people that you fall in love. Everyone falls
Speaker 1: in love with them when you meet them, and she has.
Speaker 1: She carried the light, that's for sure. Yeah, she's definitely
Speaker 1: had that energy. So do you have a favorite cast member? Now? Um,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I mean my Rudolph, I mean the
Speaker 1: current I mean Milla Shannon. I think Maya is. Maya
Speaker 1: is one of the funniest motherfuckers. She's iconic. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: she's the best. She's the best. I was thinking. I
Speaker 1: was thinking the current cast and I am. So there's
Speaker 1: something about Cecily Strong. Oh, I love her. I have
Speaker 1: a crush on her. I tried to buy her drinks
Speaker 1: because I would go to the afterparties with Fenris all
Speaker 1: the time. I still go, but and then every time
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna buy sexually strong drink and then
Speaker 1: I go and I just run away. I run away,
Speaker 1: just do it. Yeah, And she's like she she's the
Speaker 1: cool It's crazy. I'm just like, oh, you're incredible. Like
Speaker 1: I just like, I just see her do Janine Pierrot
Speaker 1: and was like, she's so good. They're so funny, she's
Speaker 1: so good, Like her impressions are so underrated good, and
Speaker 1: like her original characters are so underrated good. And she
Speaker 1: I think she like. What I love about her is
Speaker 1: it's like like sketch. I love sketch comedy, but sometimes
Speaker 1: sketch comedy can feel like performance, and sometimes it feels
Speaker 1: like acting. And I think Cecily is always acting. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know what you don't want to have a conversation
Speaker 1: with at a party. It's characters. Ever, And I'm so
Speaker 1: god when she did weaken up that, I was so excited,
Speaker 1: but then then the switch, but also Heidie guard HER's
Speaker 1: really she's got chops. Yeah, I really love her. I
Speaker 1: went to JFL with her and we were we were
Speaker 1: both and then like um, hearing that she had gotten it,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: Was her audition Like she was she was great. I mean,
Speaker 1: like we we all got to know each other. And
Speaker 1: the thing is, like the thing about Heidia is it's
Speaker 1: the same thing as I just said with Cely. She's
Speaker 1: acting so it explodes on the screen. It really does
Speaker 1: every boxer's girlfriend. And she really she did that, and
Speaker 1: I remember like cracking up at that character. And she
Speaker 1: also did her like Kristin Shawl. Oh my god. But
Speaker 1: I was like, and she's also the kindest person. Fucking
Speaker 1: got everybody. She like had saran wrapped small individual plates
Speaker 1: full of cookies and things that she baked before Christmas,
Speaker 1: left it everyone's doors. And I was like, and she
Speaker 1: she bought me. We have this love of gummies and
Speaker 1: she like bought me this huge box of like artisanal gumming.
Speaker 1: The nicest person in the world and like every good thing.
Speaker 1: All the cash members are like like good, call me
Speaker 1: like they're good. Yeah, they're all good. Yeah. And she
Speaker 1: has a really nice family, really nice husband. I've met
Speaker 1: with her, like brothers came up. They were all so nice, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's the best, She's the best anyway, um snl. I
Speaker 1: feel like, is there is there like any sort of well,
Speaker 1: I guess, like favorite favorite sketch of all time. I
Speaker 1: mean it's hard. I was like trying to like, I
Speaker 1: have to say this, so I was. I've also been
Speaker 1: obsessed with this since I was very young, which is
Speaker 1: why this is all such a gag to me. Um,
Speaker 1: this is the way things have worked out. Um Like,
Speaker 1: So I used to go when I was in college.
Speaker 1: I used to camp out on the stand. I did
Speaker 1: this every week instead of trying to make friends. I
Speaker 1: got in like five times. There's the couple. Do you
Speaker 1: know that couples in Jamie Dude? They're the front of
Speaker 1: every line every show. When do you need to get
Speaker 1: there to be the first thing? Wednesday? I would be
Speaker 1: there Friday at eleven am. The first time I ever
Speaker 1: went was it was um, I went and I had
Speaker 1: no It was James Franco. And the second time, no,
Speaker 1: it was James Franco and Kings of Leon and I
Speaker 1: kid you not. I sat next to Emmistone and this
Speaker 1: was what Emmistone. All she had done was super bad,
Speaker 1: super bad. It was pre easy A. So it was
Speaker 1: Emmistone sitting next to her, sitting next to her boyfriend
Speaker 1: at the time, who's now transitioned, Teddy Geiger. So this
Speaker 1: was years ago. So now Teddy Geiger has transitioned and
Speaker 1: she she now is like a songwriter shrits with um
Speaker 1: Shawn Mendez and they have a lot of success together.
Speaker 1: She was She's nominated for a Grammy with him, like
Speaker 1: very well. But this was at this time, like I
Speaker 1: sat literally next to them and it was James Franco
Speaker 1: and kings Of and I was so in shock the
Speaker 1: whole time that I didn't get to enjoy it. I
Speaker 1: went the next week it was Anne Hathaway and The Killers.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And this was the very first time
Speaker 1: that Kristen Wigg did the Lawrence Welk Show. It was
Speaker 1: one of the best moments of my life watching that
Speaker 1: live in the student Want I watched it live with
Speaker 1: those little tiny hands and Fred Armison playing Lawrence Welk
Speaker 1: and like the four of them, Casey Wilson, Amy Poehler
Speaker 1: who was once pregnant right, Kirsten Wigg doing that character,
Speaker 1: and Hathaway being such an amazing life performer, like it
Speaker 1: was just so good and I was remember I left
Speaker 1: and I was like, there's something so magical confirmed about
Speaker 1: this place, and I was just anys. Yeah, Amy and
Speaker 1: Tina Weakened Update is probably like favorite sketches anytime Amy
Speaker 1: and Tina we I was, for whatever reason, my favorite
Speaker 1: jo we can It was Amy and Tina for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: I mean if they just are the best. Love. I
Speaker 1: love Weekend Update now, but you know I love he
Speaker 1: was my favorite Weekend Update. I think he's so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I normally normous like an interesting cat like he is.
Speaker 1: He is very like you're on boarding, and his stand
Speaker 1: up is actually quite good. Like if you watch specials.
Speaker 1: Most of the specials you see these these are like
Speaker 1: pretty bad. But like Norman, Norm still got it even
Speaker 1: though he's gone. He's like super religious and I knew
Speaker 1: it was conservativeah, Like, well, I mean my friend Harrison
Speaker 1: Greenbaum was on, well America's got Talent, I guess it was.
Speaker 1: And uh or no that so Norm was on when
Speaker 1: he was on Last Comic Standing, I guess it wasn't
Speaker 1: he did. He has some joke that it compares the
Speaker 1: Bible to Harry Potter, and Norm was offended by it
Speaker 1: comments and I was like, oh right, you lost your
Speaker 1: edge who you are now? Yeah. Also I have to say,
Speaker 1: because they're my boss, is Colin chose to Michael Jay
Speaker 1: They're actually incredible to you. Yeah, they're amazing. And I
Speaker 1: loved watching Michael find his voice and like his can
Speaker 1: stand up when he's at the desk, right, Sony so
Speaker 1: funny and each other well, and like Colin like I'm
Speaker 1: going to go to bat like just the nicest guy,
Speaker 1: the nicest dude, and so is like ja like like
Speaker 1: cha just loves to function up on the internet and
Speaker 1: like that's like that, but like but like in person,
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, like he's very just like a
Speaker 1: nice guy and like it's like you just have to like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, he just he just likes to Like
Speaker 1: I like that. I appreciate that he's all troublemaker m him.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite sketch of all time? I
Speaker 1: was going to say, and this is so this sounds
Speaker 1: a little basic, but I think first it was like
Speaker 1: first it was like all the Donna tells stuff with
Speaker 1: Maria growing up. I was like, I'm responding to something
Speaker 1: about this. I didn't really know like what it like
Speaker 1: that I was gay or anything. But I was like,
Speaker 1: there's something there's something fun about like her being surrounded
Speaker 1: by these shirtless buffer and her like screaming at children
Speaker 1: on Halloween, like so funny, like like halle Berry coming
Speaker 1: in his Naomi Campbell. I was like, yeah, this is fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that like that and then like and then
Speaker 1: truly this is but this is the basic thing. Like
Speaker 1: Debbie Downer. I was like, I love it when that
Speaker 1: one's so good. I guess I would like get more
Speaker 1: people and consistently call me Debbie Downer after that. But
Speaker 1: you know it's fine. Just get that you have feline aids.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so look at that costume. He's probably
Speaker 1: in the early stag. Honestly, I love when they break.
Speaker 1: I love I like whenever anyone gets mad at me
Speaker 1: found for breaking, I'm like, you gotta stop thinking it
Speaker 1: so serious. When I was for get like his audition
Speaker 1: was fucking amazing. Is a really good impression because it
Speaker 1: wasn't the only one ever who never broke, like Chris
Speaker 1: Parnell was famous for like never fucking breaking. Didn't break, Yeah, yeah, broke.
Speaker 1: I managed to like, I'm so obsessed with SNL that
Speaker 1: I like my first year in New York when I
Speaker 1: went to into like I moved here to intern I
Speaker 1: didn't do it three years later, but I snuck myself
Speaker 1: into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction after
Speaker 1: party and I met a cast member and we made
Speaker 1: out and then we like fun for five years on
Speaker 1: and all, Oh my god, you wait, was this the
Speaker 1: celebrity that Yeah, okay, we didn't talk about this, but
Speaker 1: we will talk off about And you guys didn't didn't
Speaker 1: get you compare notes about your celebrity? Oh no, we will.
Speaker 1: But I like I like, no, I'm like friends with
Speaker 1: a lot of like I'm friends like Horatio Sands. I
Speaker 1: met him on the street and I tweeted at him
Speaker 1: and they were like really good friends. Um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've just managed to like envelope myself in this fucking SNL.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I love it so much. Um wait, we
Speaker 1: have to ask you about Okay, come on, let's do
Speaker 1: a little exploratory thing with with with the book. What
Speaker 1: was that process like for you guys to adapt the
Speaker 1: because we actually are we actually have an idea for one? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we had an outline that we all agreed upon, and
Speaker 1: then we sold the book. But we got an offer
Speaker 1: from a public from HarperCollins based on this outline, and
Speaker 1: then we went to go write it, and then we
Speaker 1: separately abandoned the outline, did not tell the other person,
Speaker 1: and happened to write things that really complimented each other.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Perfect. I focused a lot on like
Speaker 1: sexual acts and experiences, and then she focused on self
Speaker 1: confidence because I would recommend, I mean, like you can.
Speaker 1: I think they wanted us to write it in unison,
Speaker 1: but I don't understand how you can share a voice
Speaker 1: when your voices are like you're not the same person.
Speaker 1: We have experienced that too when we when we have
Speaker 1: been assigned things for Vulture together, It's it's hard, it's
Speaker 1: very difficult. You just have to agree, and then that,
Speaker 1: to me, that waters down everything. But I mean, like
Speaker 1: this has been going on for years, because we got
Speaker 1: book deals like a couple of like first like years
Speaker 1: and years ago from the originally like the first one
Speaker 1: was from a guy who did like some of Chelsea
Speaker 1: Handler's first books, but they want it's something really salacious
Speaker 1: like my Sideways life, and like I love that, and
Speaker 1: I read that, I love Chelsea's books, but that's not
Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're doing something different. And also like
Speaker 1: that's already been done, Chelsea did it, so we got
Speaker 1: to do something new. UM. And so that was and
Speaker 1: we sat for a couple of years, and then there
Speaker 1: was a woman who was kind of after us for
Speaker 1: a while who ended up being who ended up getting
Speaker 1: going up and up in publishing and who we ultimately
Speaker 1: worked with. So she had kind of been following us
Speaker 1: since she was a young woman in the publishing industry. UM,
Speaker 1: and then she was a mastermind. And then when we
Speaker 1: wrote the Yeah, when we wrote the pitch for it, UM,
Speaker 1: there was a bunch of people like they did a
Speaker 1: bidding war, and then we just ended up going with
Speaker 1: Hillary's company because well, I mean they did offer us
Speaker 1: the most money, but also they it's harper One. They cared.
Speaker 1: She was like, Okay, we're gonna have avatage for you guys,
Speaker 1: and you'll have like every time it's a chapter that
Speaker 1: you got one of you rights, you'll have your like
Speaker 1: cartoon avatar at the top, and no one ever gets
Speaker 1: use you could tell whose voice it is anyway, but
Speaker 1: there's just yeah, it's really um, it's easy it's an
Speaker 1: easy read, but it's like she really helped make it,
Speaker 1: structure it first of all, because we just like handed
Speaker 1: her paragraph about it we wanted to talk about and
Speaker 1: she put the puzzle together. That's so thoughtful of her
Speaker 1: to like work, think think of a system. That really great.
Speaker 1: She's fucking great at her job. Yeah, that's awesome. How
Speaker 1: long did it take for you guys to write it?
Speaker 1: Like six months? But I only was created from the
Speaker 1: hours of three am to five am. Was a real bit.
Speaker 1: It sucked up my sleep for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: I mean, my sleep has never been the same since
Speaker 1: I wrote the book, really because it sucked it up
Speaker 1: because I'm a night Yeah, it's hard to write in
Speaker 1: the day, you because you know, I like need to
Speaker 1: write in silence, like when the whole like still I
Speaker 1: wrote my half and honestly it was like five days.
Speaker 1: I'm not I just like I just most of my
Speaker 1: process is procrastinating and then when it hits me, I
Speaker 1: got it. So many people are and I'm just like
Speaker 1: wondering if that it's I love it so much, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is like, like, despite all of our best intentions,
Speaker 1: Like it feels like there's no better way, Like, it's
Speaker 1: how it works, I think. I think what works for me,
Speaker 1: what works for me anyway, is like I have to
Speaker 1: really develop in my own brain what it is that
Speaker 1: I want to say, because it has to be good,
Speaker 1: almost good enough to be put up on paper. I
Speaker 1: don't like writing something and being like I don't like this,
Speaker 1: I want to erase all of it. I get to
Speaker 1: know and love my idea in my head, and then
Speaker 1: I really know what it is by the time I
Speaker 1: put it out. So it almost is like that procrastination
Speaker 1: truly is part of the creative process because your wheels
Speaker 1: are spending and you're allowing yourself to develop it. It's
Speaker 1: just not on the page. So whenever, whenever anyone is
Speaker 1: struggling writing and they're they're struggling getting something down, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, being a creative person is not about necessarily
Speaker 1: putting words down on the paper. You and you can't
Speaker 1: always tell yourself like I'm gonna write today between the
Speaker 1: hours of three and four pm. It doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1: Works like that anyway for me anyway. But it's weird
Speaker 1: because when you think I always think of the people
Speaker 1: who worked at Motown Records, because literally they would go
Speaker 1: into their office and like nine am and say today,
Speaker 1: we need to write a hit by five pm. And
Speaker 1: they would write a hit by five pm. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I think you can force yourself to do it if
Speaker 1: you need to. Have you seen the beautiful Carol King musical,
Speaker 1: because this is literally about Oh no, I haven't seen that. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's very good and I just saw it and literally
Speaker 1: what you just said. So Carol King and um Jerry Goffin,
Speaker 1: who was her husband and creative partner, they worked at
Speaker 1: a place like that and it was like I think
Speaker 1: it was, UM, I don't know the exact label, but
Speaker 1: they literally would sit and the boss would come in
Speaker 1: and say, we need a hit song for the Sherrell's
Speaker 1: by the end of the week, and it needs to
Speaker 1: be a girl song or a guy song or this
Speaker 1: and with this energy uptown or a ballot or this,
Speaker 1: and they say got it. And like the writing duos
Speaker 1: in the h at the label would kind of compete
Speaker 1: and they would all perform the song at the end
Speaker 1: of the week and then he'd be like, it's that
Speaker 1: one and maybe that song could go for this other artist.
Speaker 1: But I loved that musical because it's really about the
Speaker 1: creative process and then like collaborative. I can't recommend it enough.
Speaker 1: And Jesse Mueller's sister Abby Mueller was in it, and
Speaker 1: so jesse Mueller was the actress who won the Tony
Speaker 1: for playing Carol King. I saw her sister who gave Carol,
Speaker 1: who was Carol. It's pretty cool that they're in the
Speaker 1: same family and they played the same part super well.
Speaker 1: But it's exactly what you're saying, like this thing of like, Hi,
Speaker 1: it's your job to be creative before or five pm. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and it's only they were putting out bad stuff.
Speaker 1: It was great stuff and stands the test of time. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: when the pressures applied, you could do it. They they
Speaker 1: talked about that. I didn't realize that she wrote, well
Speaker 1: you still love me tomorrow, but I was like, it's
Speaker 1: amazing that someone even wrote this. This is such a
Speaker 1: beautiful song. Or you've got a friend. I'm like, you've
Speaker 1: got a friend, natural woman. Yeah. I think maybe sometimes
Speaker 1: it's like you're way like I always am waiting for
Speaker 1: the idea, and when it's the idea, I know that
Speaker 1: and it clicks. But I think perhaps you can wait
Speaker 1: for the idea. But if you don't get the idea,
Speaker 1: there are other ideas that are good. So maybe those
Speaker 1: are those songs. And then like the idea is like
Speaker 1: your yeah, yes, the thing that will always define you. Yeah. Sure,
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I don't know. I've been like going
Speaker 1: through this weird dry spell for the last like, well,
Speaker 1: this is a question I actually have. So you guys
Speaker 1: right on Tuesday nights and then all night, right, and
Speaker 1: that's like that's an all nighter, but like it kind
Speaker 1: of has to happen on Tuesday night, right, because you
Speaker 1: have to do the read through right and then dress. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not writing new ship later in the week. So
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is like if you have a bad
Speaker 1: day on Tuesday, that kind of like sucks. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's like a weird dry on Tuesday, dry on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and it's just like well that like sort of sets
Speaker 1: the tone for the rest of your week in a way.
Speaker 1: But I mean, but the but like the thing about us,
Speaker 1: like like like at first time, it was like I
Speaker 1: went in there being like, oh, it's interesting that like
Speaker 1: people don't I mean, sometimes people do just come in
Speaker 1: with an idea that they've had boiling for like months
Speaker 1: and months, and that's an idea that they've really thought
Speaker 1: through for a long time. But like a lot of
Speaker 1: it is just about whatever the alchemy is of the
Speaker 1: time and the place and the people in one room
Speaker 1: like sitting together and just riffing. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's just like first, it's like everyone has
Speaker 1: a different process. Some people don't have any like Anna
Speaker 1: dressin like I'll just say like she like writes in
Speaker 1: this way that where she's like, I don't I truly
Speaker 1: don't have a process. It's just like very playful, experimental,
Speaker 1: Like Aight and Kate will just come into our office
Speaker 1: and they'll rift together, and like Anna's just just has
Speaker 1: her notes app open on her computer and just types
Speaker 1: out little sentences and little sounds and then she like
Speaker 1: synthesizes it all together on final draft and the like,
Speaker 1: and then like it's she just makes it work. And
Speaker 1: I'm just like, okay, that is it seems like a
Speaker 1: straightforward process, but there's so many like depending on what
Speaker 1: you're writing it, there's so many different moving pieces and
Speaker 1: it's like a crazy mental three D chest thing. It's
Speaker 1: like you have to figure out what it's going to
Speaker 1: work for you in that environment, riffing is the best, Like,
Speaker 1: that's God, that's that's the best way to write. I
Speaker 1: think I would think, well, now I'm learning like I
Speaker 1: have to do it out loud, just in terms of
Speaker 1: screenplay or in terms of dialogue. It has to be
Speaker 1: I have to be the only way I can write
Speaker 1: without making it sound so robotic and crazy and unrealistic
Speaker 1: is to speak it out. To speak it out because
Speaker 1: you have to think, would someone say this? Someone say this? What? This?
Speaker 1: Is this easy to say? Is it phonetically easy for
Speaker 1: someone to say crazy? Which but it's like something you
Speaker 1: have to think about. I don't know. Yeah, um, but
Speaker 1: that's process, y'all. That's process. Um Um. I think it's
Speaker 1: time to move on to I don't think so. It's
Speaker 1: so this is our segment that we do and you
Speaker 1: fucking slay show, and I understand your friend is animating it.
Speaker 1: Yes he is. Stuff shout out. I'm very excited. I
Speaker 1: was very proud of that. I actually wrote that on
Speaker 1: the way to the venue because I have that doesnt
Speaker 1: million different? And I was like, no, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: because I want to do a bit on tampon commercial
Speaker 1: for a while so yeah, and I was like, and
Speaker 1: I wrote it like backstage, and I was like, they're
Speaker 1: easy to write in that short time though, too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you applied pressure, I'm like, man, I've been trying
Speaker 1: to write a new joke for a really long time,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I wrote that fucking backstage, and then
Speaker 1: you got to apply the pressure. And like, one form
Speaker 1: of pressure in that is that it's it's sixty seconds,
Speaker 1: like I can't make it that much longer. I love
Speaker 1: that just it forces you to beat it out in
Speaker 1: a quick, efficient way. Put this on your schedule right now,
Speaker 1: current Fisher for you have to do the Brooklyn Bellhouse
Speaker 1: show right here. I feel like I don't want to
Speaker 1: get the thing is I will you? Also, um, we
Speaker 1: are going on tour. Um Last Culture is on tour.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Honey, we're coming to Portland, Seattle, Vancouver.
Speaker 1: Are you not in town? I mean we're in India, Annapolis,
Speaker 1: we are, Yeah, Well we'll figure this out. I'll figure
Speaker 1: it out. San Francisco, Vancouver, Uh, Philly, Boston, d C, Houston,
Speaker 1: Dallas and Austin and Brooklyn. Baby, And so you can
Speaker 1: get tickets online. They're on sale now. Crazily enough, the
Speaker 1: San Francisco date is on the night of the Oscars.
Speaker 1: We will figure it will make it work. You guys
Speaker 1: just gonna watch the Oscars with the audience just happened,
Speaker 1: but really signed theater of the Oscars. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it might be bad and do a lot of do like,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Is as the night is going, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just have to talk because the Oscars start at five.
Speaker 1: Our show starts at motherfucker can you can watch? So honestly,
Speaker 1: we could, we could do. I don't think so honey
Speaker 1: about the Oscars because they just happened. Hell yeah, um
Speaker 1: should I go first? You should go first? Okay, So
Speaker 1: this is I don't this is okay, this is Matt Rodgers,
Speaker 1: and I don't think so honey. As time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. That thing when you're scrolling
Speaker 1: through people's pictures and then all of a sudden they're
Speaker 1: on a very high structure, I fucking freak out, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: so when you when it's the angle and it's like
Speaker 1: the thing of like, look, how look on this really
Speaker 1: tall thing? I'm literally lurch in my chair because I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm on the high structure. Something I've developed
Speaker 1: which I don't think so honey about, is I'm extremely
Speaker 1: afraid of heights now, all of a sudden, like and
Speaker 1: literally it's so intense that I'll be scrolling through photos
Speaker 1: on someone's Instagram, which I often do, and I will
Speaker 1: literally be so uncomfortable when I see someone on top
Speaker 1: of a building. Don't take these photos. And if you
Speaker 1: are going to put these photos on Instagram, there has
Speaker 1: to be like a photo beforehand that says the next
Speaker 1: picture is one of those scary photos where I'm on
Speaker 1: a trigger warning because I am triggered by tall things. Literally.
Speaker 1: We we sat down with someone the other day and
Speaker 1: like he said, look actually on the top of a
Speaker 1: building and I looked over and I almost died. I
Speaker 1: always feel like I could fall. And that's one minute.
Speaker 1: I wait, I'm sorry, who is this person that we
Speaker 1: when we were at the departure you when we did
Speaker 1: the interview, and we don't I didn't look over the rail.
Speaker 1: You look the We looked, Oh yeah, you can't like
Speaker 1: the seventh floor, dude, it's actually real culture number. You
Speaker 1: can't look over the railing because you'll be afraid. Literally,
Speaker 1: these photos like on Facebook. I'll be swelling through someone's
Speaker 1: pictures and I'll see one and it's as if I'm
Speaker 1: falling a thousand feet. I don't know. I like have
Speaker 1: like a weird like I I went to the World
Speaker 1: Trades in our observatory deck and I couldn't go near that.
Speaker 1: I couldn't go near the glass. The elvry right out
Speaker 1: of pank attack. It's insane. Yeah. No, I don't like heights,
Speaker 1: and weirdly, when I discovered it didn't like heights. After
Speaker 1: I was went skydiving, I didn't. I was I didn't
Speaker 1: care about heights. And then I hit eighteen years old
Speaker 1: and my friends like, we're gonna go skydiving. We went.
Speaker 1: It was the most horrowing experience of my life. It
Speaker 1: did not go well. You regret it. I don't regret
Speaker 1: it because now I could say I did it and
Speaker 1: it's a good story. It didn't go because I didn't
Speaker 1: eat that day and my stomach was very empty and
Speaker 1: I got anxious and literally the free fall was fine,
Speaker 1: but I the ten minute flowed down. Yeah, they don't
Speaker 1: tell you that. You think that. You think the scary
Speaker 1: thing is going to be the free fall, but the
Speaker 1: scary part is like after they pulled the thing, you
Speaker 1: float down ten feet so and that takes like like
Speaker 1: three feet, but it takes like ten minutes, and so
Speaker 1: you're floating and that's when it gets fucking crazy. And
Speaker 1: I had just been through this intense experience of free
Speaker 1: falling through the air actually in fact, and I had
Speaker 1: nothing in my stomach, but I was throwing up into
Speaker 1: my shirt and of course it was tandem. So the
Speaker 1: guys on my back like, okay, this guy who I
Speaker 1: made up his name is Trask because I forgot his name.
Speaker 1: Looked like a trask spiky hair. It was so humiliating.
Speaker 1: But since that experience, I have here fights Hey, alright,
Speaker 1: this is honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: The stylist on this photo shoot, who making you? Who
Speaker 1: put me in this? I'm who put me in this?
Speaker 1: Im makeup? He was okay, the theme is superheroes and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I was not told this. Fine,
Speaker 1: um puts me with these two Japanese makeup artists who
Speaker 1: were so sweet, who did Spiderman eyes on me? And
Speaker 1: Rehaye specifically puts a Spiderman eyes on me? I was like, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I guess we're going with this, and then comes over
Speaker 1: and says, wow, I love this very Pokemon, Pikachu, Pikachu.
Speaker 1: And I was like that and all three of us,
Speaker 1: all three of us, all of me. Then the makeup
Speaker 1: artists just like give each other a look. You guys
Speaker 1: all went no, We're like, what the fuck? And then
Speaker 1: he walks away, and then one of them goes, he's
Speaker 1: just he just said that because it's Asian, and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, even she understood that to be what
Speaker 1: it was someone who like culturally like maybe didn't understand
Speaker 1: what might have just happened her. She got it. And
Speaker 1: then he comes back and it's like, wow, Pikachu, Pikachu.
Speaker 1: And then at that point I was like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't know, that's not it, and that I was getting
Speaker 1: fitted at that time and I heard it. I heard him,
Speaker 1: and he would stop it and he said he said
Speaker 1: it's several times, and like you can tell you guys
Speaker 1: were also uncomfortable, and I was just like, that's by
Speaker 1: the end, he doesn't he didn't get it. At the end,
Speaker 1: I got aggressive. I was like no, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: like it was funny, see like him and Karim but
Speaker 1: head like they were like but he kept saying dumb
Speaker 1: ship to her. No, we didn't butt heads. I just
Speaker 1: I was just I was just uh like I was
Speaker 1: trying not to cry because I was so excited for
Speaker 1: that photo shoot and like I look so great. I like,
Speaker 1: I this was the first photo shoot I've done since
Speaker 1: I was like really sick last year, and like I'm
Speaker 1: like so fit now, and I was like like, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get great photos, amazing and thin. My manager was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're doing suits. So I'm like I'm like walking in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's gonna be like some like Louis Vauton,
Speaker 1: like amazing lies. And then they another he has an
Speaker 1: Asian thing going on, so he gave me this. He
Speaker 1: gave me this Asian inspired uh like sarg chepper jacket
Speaker 1: and I looked like a chic suh chef. And then
Speaker 1: he kept saying, oh, you look like a little China doll,
Speaker 1: and I go, well, I hope I don't since someone
Speaker 1: Italian June. But also like what like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: because I'm like I was your nation. I swear to
Speaker 1: God if you did something weird to my eyes, that's
Speaker 1: gonna make the New York Post write an article about me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking leave, and he kept saying it to me.
Speaker 1: And it was so big. I mean I looked like
Speaker 1: like I looked like a child playing a sush chef.
Speaker 1: It was the Jackett was so big. No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: The thing was we were friends with um, one of
Speaker 1: the people on set, and he's so amazing, and we
Speaker 1: were so really so thankful for the opportunity. And this
Speaker 1: is not me like that guy, and so I you know,
Speaker 1: I am always ready to make a stink and and
Speaker 1: stand up for myself, but this was just one where
Speaker 1: I was like, I have your battle. Yeah. And also
Speaker 1: I get Departures magazine and I always throw it directly
Speaker 1: in the trash. Anyway, I'm sorry, recycling, recycling. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that the photos of beauty, the photos of great I
Speaker 1: was so I'm sure they did. It was such a
Speaker 1: lovely experience. It was just like you guys, probably Paul,
Speaker 1: if you're listening, like we got we got along great
Speaker 1: by the end, like we hit it off, but like
Speaker 1: that moment, that moment was that moment was was bad
Speaker 1: and you gotta learn from that, okay, And we love
Speaker 1: you in. There's room for there's room for growth. I
Speaker 1: believe that. So that's what I'm coming from. You're gonna
Speaker 1: wear her clothes next time we all do with photos there.
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily get the concept because he was putting
Speaker 1: you on like a half stupid hero thing. And then
Speaker 1: I was looking like, you look I look like James Bond.
Speaker 1: You looked you looked like Bond. You guys, I saw
Speaker 1: somebody showing me like a little like proof of your photos.
Speaker 1: You guys are great. I just I was. I was
Speaker 1: happy green wick. That green wig was just that the
Speaker 1: hair guy was being a goof and he just like
Speaker 1: I was being like the one of the makeup parts
Speaker 1: was taking me out of my makeup and then he
Speaker 1: just comes over puts this green wig on me for
Speaker 1: no reason and starts styling it. I was like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: I was like I was on board with that board. Wait. Basically,
Speaker 1: the other thing that I loved that happened was Bone
Speaker 1: is sitting in the makeup chair and he gets asked
Speaker 1: like about the Golden globes and he and like he
Speaker 1: was like Bohemian rapsody one, and everyone around him was like,
Speaker 1: we loved Bohemian Ray, what are you talking? And I
Speaker 1: was like, and then I know it's bad. He was
Speaker 1: he was trying, Well you really weren't you kind of
Speaker 1: were backing down? Was I find because it was like
Speaker 1: a group of people being like we loved it, and
Speaker 1: I was like we have to protect our friends with taste.
Speaker 1: Like like I was like, no bo and like it
Speaker 1: was bad. Like I was like ready to go over
Speaker 1: there and be like this wasn't a good movie. Wow,
Speaker 1: thank you for calling me out? Um, I see yall? Okay, okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so wait, I've never done this before, so basically you
Speaker 1: have to know what you want to do. But no,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't have to be something you guys did,
Speaker 1: like more current stuff. I did one on balloons, once
Speaker 1: I did one on I don't want a sign about cardboard,
Speaker 1: like it's about anything. Okay, yeah, all right, this is
Speaker 1: Korean Fisher's I don't think, so honey and her time
Speaker 1: starts now. Okay, So people who taste ice cream ice
Speaker 1: cream pilors, I don't think. I don't. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know where you go up in, and I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want to shine my privilege on you, but
Speaker 1: I feel like at some time, no matter how badly
Speaker 1: your life is going, that you've had ice cream, Someone's
Speaker 1: offered it to you, someone's giving you a spoonful. You
Speaker 1: can get those little black and white cups like for
Speaker 1: a dollar that you eat with the thing that looks
Speaker 1: like a tonsil checker from a doctor's office. So like,
Speaker 1: if you if you're living a life where you can't
Speaker 1: take a chance on an ice cream, how like I've
Speaker 1: never seen an ice cream flavor so wacky. But I
Speaker 1: was like, I need to put this in my mouth
Speaker 1: before I dedicate five dollars to putting it in my
Speaker 1: life forever, Like like, you need to take a risk
Speaker 1: at some point and your fucking life otherwise you're not
Speaker 1: going to achieve anything. So you can't the most expensive
Speaker 1: ice cream I've ever seen it like a diver and
Speaker 1: that's eight dollars and that's the top of the notch.
Speaker 1: So just like, do you not need to eat ice
Speaker 1: cream without fear? And then I just and what's I
Speaker 1: don't know? You just go, uh so I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: I was like, should I summarize it perfect? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. But yours stunning that you grys was stunning.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I agree with you. It also really
Speaker 1: holds up. Get does some taste tested chocolate once and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wow, you know what I do always
Speaker 1: taste test because I'm a I'm a sicko who likes
Speaker 1: cotton candy ice cream but not but not, but not
Speaker 1: every cotton candy ice cream is the same, and I
Speaker 1: just I always do taste test that some of them
Speaker 1: have more syrup instead of them have a lot. Some
Speaker 1: of them are very con canny and some of them
Speaker 1: are not as And also strawberry can be often different
Speaker 1: in a lot of different places. I've really felt very
Speaker 1: kind of jaded in my experiences with some strawberry and
Speaker 1: I am a strawberry bitch. You've been burned. I've been
Speaker 1: burned more fake ones. But sometimes people really try to
Speaker 1: force it on me, like like their flavor is so
Speaker 1: fucking edgy that I can't handle it. And I just
Speaker 1: have said to them and said that I don't do that.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. What's your ice cream? I mean, my my,
Speaker 1: I like cookies and cream a lot, mint, chocolate chip,
Speaker 1: pumpkin when it's seasonal is legit? What about you ice cream? Um?
Speaker 1: I like double fudge brownie. You guys are you guys
Speaker 1: are nice baked goods? What do you like? We don't go.
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a strawberry bed. I remember this when
Speaker 1: you're both water science, water science. Strawberry milk chicken onion
Speaker 1: rings is like one of my favorite like diner combos,
Speaker 1: the Wendy's frosty and French fries. Oh my god, the
Speaker 1: Wendy is chocolate frost is not a joke. Not a joke.
Speaker 1: There is this movement movement right now to bring back Vonetta's.
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember via Yeah, fancy little little loaves
Speaker 1: and then remember the commercials. The commercials were like they
Speaker 1: would like cut a piece of Yanetta and put it
Speaker 1: into it like a Martini coop or Martini glass, and
Speaker 1: the people with like beautiful nails would like like go
Speaker 1: at it, like give it to me. Do you guys
Speaker 1: remember that? It's like a visual SMR. It is, but
Speaker 1: it's a very nineties at anyway. Singles, I think we're
Speaker 1: supposed to. I think we should like raise our voices
Speaker 1: and like bring that back is voices and me all right, um,
Speaker 1: this is Christina Hudginson's I don't think so, honey, you're ready.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's so poised you you didn't experience
Speaker 1: it live it was, and then she released the cry
Speaker 1: love to a little No, I love it. This is
Speaker 1: Christina Hutchinson's I don't think so, honey, Our time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The stats on my Instagram stories.
Speaker 1: I am a slave to these stats on my Instagram stories.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I only post an Instagram story just to see
Speaker 1: if the person I'm sucking or one to watch it.
Speaker 1: And then sometimes if I'm sucking two people, Like I
Speaker 1: had two boyfriends for a couple of months, and then
Speaker 1: they were all like they would Yeah, they were right
Speaker 1: on top of each other, the first one of the
Speaker 1: second one. And then I would keep and then I
Speaker 1: would Then I would find myself posting content just so
Speaker 1: that the people I would would watch it. And then
Speaker 1: one time Jona Hill message me because I comment one
Speaker 1: of his Instagram stories and then he but I checked
Speaker 1: my stats and then he watched all my Instagram stories,
Speaker 1: and then I felt really self conscious. I was like,
Speaker 1: I really gotta step on my filty seconds, like my
Speaker 1: filming and my directing games. So and then I thought
Speaker 1: I started like just venturing into this weird like avant
Speaker 1: garde filming thing where I would just put play Alie
Speaker 1: in one the soundtrack of the background, and just film
Speaker 1: my lights all because I wanted to impressure on a hill,
Speaker 1: because I wanted so every time I post something, it's
Speaker 1: just there's so much anxiety and I'm just I'm a
Speaker 1: slave to the stats. Second I would posted, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm wasting all of my time looking at who was
Speaker 1: looking at it. And then sometimes it's like I think
Speaker 1: the hot guy looked at it, and then I forget,
Speaker 1: so I would go back and then his name is
Speaker 1: nowhere to be found. But I swear I saw it,
Speaker 1: And what is It's it's Zuckerberg fucking with us. It's
Speaker 1: I think it's a glitch where it's like it knows
Speaker 1: that you like arcaded into this one. Yes, yes, And
Speaker 1: they disappear and you scroll and you scroll and you're
Speaker 1: like they, I swear they saw it, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to see it again. It's like I know that they
Speaker 1: saw this, yeah, and you're telling me they did. Where's
Speaker 1: the priority? Why, what's the what's the what's why do
Speaker 1: you order them? I googled this, and no one actually
Speaker 1: knows but the theory, the prevailing theory is it's people
Speaker 1: who visit your page, your account the most, like your
Speaker 1: stalkers quote unquote are like it at the top of
Speaker 1: your Instagrams. That's what I'm hoping for, the people. And
Speaker 1: it's a mix. It's like, yes, Instagram is showing you
Speaker 1: the people that used something. When Jonah Hill looked at it,
Speaker 1: he was at the top, he was the top, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't look he's not. We're friends, held just engage
Speaker 1: with you, just MG to Instagram. It's like, well, this
Speaker 1: is a big celebrity talking to another celebrity, and so
Speaker 1: we're going to do this, this, this, this, this, I
Speaker 1: think that do you follow? Do you follow him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I follow him? A comic because I also, like, I noticed,
Speaker 1: like the first five people are always people I follow,
Speaker 1: and then it's a bunch of people who I don't
Speaker 1: even know who they are. Don't show me those I
Speaker 1: don't care. But the craziest thing of Instagram that it's
Speaker 1: fucked up and you had you had to call this
Speaker 1: out to me, where it's like people I didn't know
Speaker 1: existed five seconds ago, all of a sudden, I'm furious
Speaker 1: that they don't follow me. Like especially there's there's I
Speaker 1: literally there's two comics who don't follow me, and in
Speaker 1: the whole world. It's just like, I just care so
Speaker 1: much that to comics in particular, do not like their photos,
Speaker 1: like just like liking Sprain, and they'll fallow, you know,
Speaker 1: because I'm a fucking petty bitch and I appreciate that
Speaker 1: I do follow them, but I don't like their ship.
Speaker 1: You can also follow them and re follow them. That's
Speaker 1: like how I give people a second chance. I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you must not have noticed that I followed hotly. That
Speaker 1: that's something that I might try. Yeah, well, it's embarrassing
Speaker 1: when you unfollow somebody because they broke up with you,
Speaker 1: But then you get back together and you fall him again,
Speaker 1: and you like embarrassing you try to follow them back
Speaker 1: like three am, and then they text you like, mo,
Speaker 1: we're back on Instagram, friend train, buddy, fun off. You
Speaker 1: don't miss that damned thing. There you go, that doesn't count. No,
Speaker 1: this is this is insane and and it's fun when
Speaker 1: all your crushes are clumped together. Oh my god, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: But then he always puts ideas in my head because
Speaker 1: like people I never thought of like keep looking at
Speaker 1: and I'm like, does this person have a crush on
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh my god, this person is
Speaker 1: u s with me? Well. The thing is too that
Speaker 1: can be extremely misleading because I was I had, I had,
Speaker 1: I had a crush for a long time this year,
Speaker 1: and this person was always the very first person to
Speaker 1: watch all my stories and always number one, and still
Speaker 1: to this day, even though I'm not, I don't really
Speaker 1: have a crush on them at all anymore. Um Like,
Speaker 1: they still will pop up first, first, first, first of
Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm like Instagram, I just want
Speaker 1: to like literally sit down with this and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: gro I'm good, We're fine. Where who knows? Like sometimes
Speaker 1: I'll watch people's stories and I'm not really paying attention,
Speaker 1: so who knows what they were doing on the other
Speaker 1: side of that phone? You know what i mean. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: like their in love with me, they keep watching it,
Speaker 1: but then they could have just been in the grocery store.
Speaker 1: Happened to even looking at it. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: it's just their social media habits like that that allow
Speaker 1: them the same people are always popping up in your story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do wish you can just tell Instagram like, hey, um,
Speaker 1: we're not but this isn't a thing anymore. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna look into it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna look into it. Yeah, they should do like an
Speaker 1: Instagram like my Space, top ten, top twenty like that
Speaker 1: you want to feature. I feel like I'm missing a
Speaker 1: lot of people. You know, I follow like two thousand people.
Speaker 1: I only see like I know, and the timeline isn't
Speaker 1: like by time, it's just it's you'll see a post
Speaker 1: that that was like three days old. You're why you
Speaker 1: show me the ship. And if you start following someone
Speaker 1: and you'll get like a bunch of their I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't need history up. It's like December. Why am
Speaker 1: I seeing Christmas Eve photos? Yeah? It's anyway. Um, oh
Speaker 1: my god, what a fucking episode. I love this amazing
Speaker 1: cultural touchstones. I think we covered everything. We covered sex,
Speaker 1: anal culture, anal sex culture, an we covered sex culture
Speaker 1: and books and books. I was gonna say, like like hair,
Speaker 1: body face, sex culture, an I love that, love that,
Speaker 1: and also how to be creative. How to be creative.
Speaker 1: We talked about process, We talked about state and process.
Speaker 1: That's title about share process. I thought, I thought, see
Speaker 1: me slammers correct. I wished santom hole, phantom hole, phansom hole.
Speaker 1: Write that down, Hpe, we need to start using slammer.
Speaker 1: I was so on board for that. It was good. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have to say no slamming culture number eighteen, no
Speaker 1: slamming going forward. And yeah, I listen to the guys
Speaker 1: we podcast to Less Only Girls with rosebud Baker. That's um,
Speaker 1: you guys are truly fucking awesome. We love you so
Speaker 1: us and we didn't get to get into this. But wait,
Speaker 1: wait maybe a quick So when I told no, I can't.
Speaker 1: So when I told that story, when I told the
Speaker 1: story about that guy that I did that when I
Speaker 1: was nineteen to him, girl, I think about guys, we fucked.
Speaker 1: Many thousands of people listened to it. So that got
Speaker 1: back to him and he was not happy. And I
Speaker 1: wasn't call him out, and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I mentioned my name, did not mention him. I did
Speaker 1: not mention anything my name, but I kind of like
Speaker 1: it happened to you, was your story too? And you
Speaker 1: know what? Then I talked to my friend about it
Speaker 1: and they were like, he's literally yelling you for having
Speaker 1: a bad experience at his hand. And I also just
Speaker 1: like and I was like, okay, yes, but it was
Speaker 1: weird because I was like we were talking before about
Speaker 1: like we didn't want to talk get too personal on
Speaker 1: the pod because we've learned some lessons about doing that.
Speaker 1: But that was crazy because I like that's I left
Speaker 1: that being like, Okay, I have to watch what I
Speaker 1: say now. But I was like, no, something I went
Speaker 1: through and opened up a good conversation about those kinds
Speaker 1: of relationship. Yeah, And I think my role is always
Speaker 1: like I don't want to tell somebody else's story, but
Speaker 1: if I will, Like I went to a sex club
Speaker 1: with this guy that we did an know with last night,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to talk about it, but I didn't
Speaker 1: want to tell his side more things that happened with him.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about things that happened to
Speaker 1: me because because I didn't want him to get upset.
Speaker 1: And it was perfect because he did. He does listen,
Speaker 1: which is whatever, but um, but yeah, and it's super
Speaker 1: stuff like that you guys get into. Yeah, but that's neat.
Speaker 1: That's like a neat good tidy idea, like a rule
Speaker 1: of like just talking about your experience in the nut sense.
Speaker 1: So you mean like he was trying to control a
Speaker 1: story that was that about control, like people never change.
Speaker 1: It was it was pretty crazy. I was kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: so this just goes to show the fact that, like
Speaker 1: I shared a story that was like and this thing
Speaker 1: looking back kind of was sucked up and the instinct
Speaker 1: wasn't to be like, hey, I'm sorry. Yeah. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: well sure, I mean whatever, but you can't we finished.
Speaker 1: We end every episode with a song thank you Christina
Speaker 1: for being here. I wanna and the tour. You can't
Speaker 1: always get what you want, and if you try, sometime,
Speaker 1: you mad man, you get what you need. By This
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