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Speaker 1: Justice Anthony, you know who I'm talking about. Justice Kennedy

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Speaker 1: will be retiring. And he is a man that I've

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Speaker 1: known for a long time and a man that I've

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Speaker 1: respected for a long time. He's been a great Justice

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Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court. He uh, he is a man

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Speaker 1: who has displaying great vision. He's displayed tremendous vision and

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Speaker 1: tremendous heart. And he will be missed. But he will

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Speaker 1: be retiring, and we will begin our search floer a

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Speaker 1: new Justice of the United States Supreme Court that will

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Speaker 1: begin immediately, and hopefully we're going to pick somebody who

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Speaker 1: will be as outstanding. So I just want to thank

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Speaker 1: a very spectacular man, really a spectacular man. And I

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Speaker 1: be teaching and doing other things. So thank you to

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Speaker 1: Justice Kennedy. Thank thank you who you pick to replace

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Speaker 1: himse So we have obviously numerous people. We have a

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Speaker 1: list of twenty people that I actually had during my election.

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Speaker 1: I had to twenty and as you anno, I ended

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Speaker 1: five a little while ago. We have a very excellent

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Speaker 1: list of great, talented, highly educated, highly intelligent, hopefully tremendous people.

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Speaker 1: I think the list is very outstanding. When I was running,

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Speaker 1: And um, I think you see the kind of quality

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Speaker 1: But I did add I added five additional people to

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Speaker 1: So we have now boiled as aunt about. All right,

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Speaker 1: there's the President making the announcement today that Anthony Kennedy

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Speaker 1: the United States Supreme Court as he steps aside. No doubt,

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Speaker 1: the predictable, content contentious fight looms. We're gonna play in

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Speaker 1: a minute. Remember remember when Ted Kennedy said about Robert Borke,

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Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas. Will play some of that for you in

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Speaker 1: the course of the program today. But you heard the

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Speaker 1: President now saying that he intends to choose his nominator

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Speaker 1: he chose Neil Corsage. And we see the importance just

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Speaker 1: The impact of the president's decision here will impact the country.

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Speaker 1: It will be their everlasting legacy that goes on sometimes

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Speaker 1: looking for a judicial activist. He's not looking for somebody

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Speaker 1: that in and of itself is not sound judicial practice

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Speaker 1: And then Robert Bourke you know, his big mistake as

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just you know, right, best boss ever,

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Speaker 1: best boss ever? Jason? How are we doing with you?

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Speaker 1: You happy back there? I'm chipper. Can't you tell that's not?

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Speaker 1: That's not You're happy with your your lunch every day,

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Speaker 1: your bonuses every year, the salary increases. You know, you

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Speaker 1: know that I keep the I still have bonuses from

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Speaker 1: bonus money from years ago. Well that's good for you.

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Speaker 1: That's smart. By the way. And Sunshine, who's apparently not

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Speaker 1: that happy because she's a bandoning ship. I love you.

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Speaker 1: I think you're one of the best bosses ever. My

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Speaker 1: dad's a boss too, so I love him as well.

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Speaker 1: But that being said, when I was telling Kylie about

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Speaker 1: the job, about what it's like actually got the job,

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Speaker 1: is that what your sol I'm talking to her about

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Speaker 1: this position, I actually started to tear up because it

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Speaker 1: made me so sad that I was going to leave you. Guys,

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Speaker 1: So well, I'm you're like family. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: the fact we all are. She is in case. You

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Speaker 1: are marrying Linda's brother for crying out loud, So that

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Speaker 1: is family and in every sense of the word. Um,

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Speaker 1: I will say, in terms of just the sweetest person

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Speaker 1: you ever meet, you're you're in that category. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I don't really think Linda's brother is worthy of you.

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Speaker 1: But you know that's a side note. Careful, Oh so

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Speaker 1: you're gonna stick up for the brother more from than

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Speaker 1: the sister. There. I never said anything negative about Lauren.

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Speaker 1: I'm merely warning you to tread lightly. Okay, I'm just

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Speaker 1: weighing the two and a little brother. I love your

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Speaker 1: little brother. He's actually very cool. I enjoy him a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's very funny. You know, you told me you like

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Speaker 1: him better than me, and I know I was messing

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Speaker 1: with you, and then so I did. But I do

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Speaker 1: think he's marrying a little out of his leak, as

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Speaker 1: all men should do. You agree with me, absolutely, he's

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Speaker 1: marrying way above his pay grade. Man should always love

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Speaker 1: his wife more than she loves him. Okay, new rules

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Speaker 1: just you know anyway. But if you want to know

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Speaker 1: why states like New York, California, Illinois, along with pretty

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Speaker 1: much every other blue state in the country, why are

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Speaker 1: they all on the verge of bankruptcy and they're all

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Speaker 1: the highest tax states. Well you can look in part

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Speaker 1: at how these public employee unions have driven up government

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Speaker 1: spending in those states. I'll give you an example. There's

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Speaker 1: news in New York City, Democratic you know, communist mayor

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Speaker 1: build the Blasio Comrade de Blasio awarded one of the

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Speaker 1: city's largest public employee unions. Get this, a billion dollars

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Speaker 1: in wage increases, a billion dollars for one city, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, they then spend some of that raised

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Speaker 1: money there compel their employees to donate. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: just because of his court ruling, let me tell you,

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Speaker 1: arms are still gonna be twisted. You better donate. And

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Speaker 1: in the words of Andrew nopolitan and he said, it

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Speaker 1: is quote devastating for the Democratic Party. Well that's because

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump was elected. All you never Trump or geniuses

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Speaker 1: over at National Review. And I'm not talking about Andy McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about you know, Victor Davis Hansen

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Speaker 1: and some other people as their union dues, you know,

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Speaker 1: collection shrink. It's gonna it's a disaster for the Democrats

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Speaker 1: because that's how they get money turned back to them.

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Speaker 1: It didn't create They get the pay raises billion dollars

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Speaker 1: and those people are forced to donate to parties they

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Speaker 1: don't even agree with. So that's a huge victory that

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Speaker 1: nobody's really paying a lot of attention to. And the

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Speaker 1: Blasio seven point four percent pay hikes and forty four

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Speaker 1: months because he wants the kickback. It's the biggest pay

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Speaker 1: to play scam that ever has been. And Elena Kagan,

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Speaker 1: by the way, went rogue and ripped conservative justices for

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Speaker 1: weaponizing the First Amendment. It's just the opposite of what

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Speaker 1: Elana Kagan's writing here. You know, she literally, you know,

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Speaker 1: read forcefully her dissent. There's no sugarcoating today's opinion. The

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Speaker 1: majority overthrows a decision and trenched in the nation's law

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Speaker 1: and its economic life for over forty years. As a result,

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Speaker 1: that prevents the American people, acting through their state local officials,

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Speaker 1: for making important choices about workplace government. No, it's about

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Speaker 1: shaking down workers to pay for candidates that they don't

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Speaker 1: want to pay for I would like unions that stick

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Speaker 1: up for the you know, the hard working men and women,

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Speaker 1: but for crying outout. Stop stealing their money so you

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Speaker 1: can throw money back to politicians. Stop it. That's so corrupt,

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Speaker 1: you know. Bernie Sanders, by the way, scored a huge

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Speaker 1: upset win against the Democratic Party leader. Believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: this was a big, big issue that happened. Uh, there

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Speaker 1: was an unapologetic Bernie Sanders socialist who campaigned on open

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Speaker 1: borders abolishing ice. Well, this person defeated longtime liberal congressman

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Speaker 1: was actually a contender to replace Nancy Pelosi as the

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Speaker 1: top Democrat in the House. And so this is pretty

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Speaker 1: interesting and so liberals with sanity. It sounds like Ed

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Speaker 1: Cotch's old old time anyway, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi won't

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Speaker 1: admit that the Democratic Party now has lurched so far

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Speaker 1: to the left. This is a big, big win. A

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Speaker 1: twenty eight year old political neophyte, Democratic socialist Alexander Cortez

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Speaker 1: blindsided this guy Crowley. Congressman Crowley and an insider said,

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Speaker 1: a tenure incumbent, he was expected to be the future

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Speaker 1: speaker for the Democrats. Bye Bye. I was waving by

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Speaker 1: bye last night on TV. Uh. Oh, the restaurant that

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Speaker 1: booted Sarah sound Sanders has failed to reopen because nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to go there anymore. The Red Hen, anyways, will

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Speaker 1: remain closed until July five. In the wake of the

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Speaker 1: Sarah Sanders controversy, the owner said her position she did

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Speaker 1: the right thing. They apparently followed the whole crowd to

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Speaker 1: another place. Maxie Waters faces assault charges after confrontation with

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Speaker 1: the reporter on Tuesday evening. Apparently there's activist we know

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Speaker 1: or we've had her on the program before. Laura Loomer

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Speaker 1: uh went to Capitol Police. Did you ever see the video?

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen the video yet, and apparently wanted an

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Speaker 1: interview and and I only saw a small portion of it.

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Speaker 1: And she just kept saying, well, couch, come to my

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Speaker 1: office anyway. Anyway, she said she filed the police report

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Speaker 1: with Capitol Hill Police against Maxie Waters and his pressing charges.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got a lot to get to Today's

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Now a vacancy at the High Court, as

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Speaker 1: Justice Kenson Kennedy has now stepped aside, the battle begins.

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Speaker 1: It will be contentious, predictably so Uh, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: all of that more on this decision. I want to

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Speaker 1: get to tell Joe in Altuna he's a union guy.

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Speaker 1: Joe's stay right there when we come back. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get to Joe because Joe's not understanding me. I love

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Speaker 1: union I love union people, union jobs. I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: the court decision today now freese union workers so they're

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Speaker 1: not forced to pay money to unions for political candidates

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Speaker 1: that they don't like or support. That's called freedom, Joe.

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Speaker 1: I'll explain it next. I glad you with us our

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Speaker 1: two when there is a vacancy on the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Kennedy is retired. And let me just warn

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Speaker 1: you the left, the borking, the Clarence Thomas like style attacks,

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Speaker 1: it's all coming because that's all the left does. It's

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Speaker 1: so predictable, just like you know everything that we've been

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Speaker 1: watching with Sarah Sanders and Pambandi and Secretary Nielsen and

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00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: even attacking Baron Trump and even going after uh Don

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Speaker 1: Junior's little girl, a four year old named Chloe, the

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Speaker 1: President's granddaughter. That's how bad it's gotten. Never mind the

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Speaker 1: regular attacks on Melani you Trump, our first lady and

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Speaker 1: the first daughter of Anka Trump. That just that goes

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Speaker 1: now without saying. But this election now just got even bigger.

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Speaker 1: I said, it's the most important midterm election in our lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Well now it's even more important because with Justice Kennedy

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Speaker 1: out the left, whoever the President chooses, you better buckle

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00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: up because they're gonna smear, slander, assault you, verbally assassinate

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Speaker 1: your character because that's what they do every two and

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Speaker 1: four years. Republicans are racist, Republicans are sexist. Republicans are misogynist,

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Speaker 1: They're xenophobic, homophobic, islamophobic. Republicans want dirty air and water.

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Speaker 1: Republicans want children to die, and of course they want

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Speaker 1: to throw your grandmother in a wheelchair over the cliff.

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Speaker 1: That's what we get, and I prove it because I

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Speaker 1: keep playing the ants. You like, the Republican Black churches

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Speaker 1: are gonna burn and it goes on from there. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: there is some other news that has gone on today.

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Speaker 1: Peter Struck. Yeah, the Peter Struck has now testified behind

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Speaker 1: closed doors earlier today and Ridom Caucus members Andrew Andy

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Speaker 1: Biggs of Arizona, Carrasman Matt Gates of Florida here to

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Speaker 1: talk about this and so much more. And apparently I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing reports Matt Gage, you were in the room

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Speaker 1: that in fact, Peter Struck actually was never questioned by

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Speaker 1: Robert Mueller, even though Robert Mueller knew about all these

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Speaker 1: text messages, um that he had the anti Trump bias

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Speaker 1: that this man had. Well, Sean, we can't get into

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Speaker 1: the specifics of the questions for the answer, as we

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Speaker 1: can share our reactions. What I can say in response

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Speaker 1: to your question is that I am shocked at the

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Speaker 1: lack of curiosity with Robert Mueller. I mean, Sean, if

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Speaker 1: if you were in Mueller's shoes and he would found

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Speaker 1: these text messages, I would think that you would want

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Speaker 1: to ask whether or not they impacted the investigative decisions

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Speaker 1: that were made, whether there was biased whether there was

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Speaker 1: contact with other members of the FBI regarding the investigation,

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Speaker 1: where it was going, and who was making the critical

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Speaker 1: judgment calls. And I just cannot believe the lack of

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Speaker 1: curiosity on the part of Robert Mueller. It was, uh

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Speaker 1: the strongest reaction I've had today from Peter Struk's testimony. Well,

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Speaker 1: I ask you this, if I was in the room

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Speaker 1: and you know how closely I'm following this case, and

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Speaker 1: Peter Struck is in the heart of all of this.

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Speaker 1: He was writing the exoneration of Hillary long before they

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Speaker 1: did the investigation, interviewed her, He was part of that interview,

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Speaker 1: part of the interview with General Flynn. He immediately started

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Speaker 1: the the witch hunt against Donald Trump. We've seen all

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Speaker 1: the text messages, insurance policies will stop him, loathsome human being,

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Speaker 1: and it can go on from there. Can you give

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Speaker 1: us a headline with how what would my reaction? Knowing

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Speaker 1: how passionate I am about the corruption here because this

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Speaker 1: involved literally the saving somebody guilty of felonies, rigging an investigation,

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Speaker 1: and and trying to tear down the other candidate and

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Speaker 1: impact a presidential election, how do you think I would

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Speaker 1: have reacted if I was in the room. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he would have been surprised, because the Inspector General's

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Speaker 1: report says that when he spoke to Peter Struck, Struck reflected,

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Speaker 1: you know, personal feelings that he was sharing with his

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Speaker 1: personal lover, but that those weren't impacting the decisions he

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Speaker 1: was making in the investigation. Those were the assertions Peter

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Speaker 1: Struck gave to the Inspector General, and so none of

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Speaker 1: his responses when confronted with those messages have really surprised

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Speaker 1: us today. Um you know, the saying that the out

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Speaker 1: of with what we saw in the Inspector General's report

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Speaker 1: deals with how this investigation was started. Sean, you will

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Speaker 1: know that we have been demanding documents from the four

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Speaker 1: thirty one of July to determine whether or not there

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Speaker 1: was intelligence collected on the Trump team and whether or

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Speaker 1: not people were paid to collect that intelligence. In those

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Speaker 1: types of questions, we have not gotten clear answers from

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Speaker 1: Peter Struck. And if it were true that no intelligence

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Speaker 1: collection occurred prior to opening up on Papadopolis, then you

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Speaker 1: would think Struck would just clearly state that if there

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Speaker 1: was nothing going on. But the fact that he was

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Speaker 1: obtuse in his responses it really raises a lot of

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Speaker 1: suspicion that that intel go on. I can ask you

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Speaker 1: your impression. Did you feel he was telling the truth?

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Speaker 1: I felt like in some cases he was not being

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Speaker 1: clear in his responses. You know, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: it is ever treadful to reflect on the text messages

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Speaker 1: as anything other than a bias and a willing to

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Speaker 1: take official action based on that bias. So in that sense, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that Peter Struck has been trithful to

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Speaker 1: the Inspector General or to Congress today, because it's so

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Speaker 1: obvious that this was someone who held biased and who

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Speaker 1: was willing to take up action based on that bias.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with me my characterization that this is

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Speaker 1: the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal in American history

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Speaker 1: and that we had a number of high ranking FBI

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Speaker 1: officials and others that were involved in an effort to

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Speaker 1: literally to frame Donald Trump, to attack him unfairly, create

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Speaker 1: a phony narrative about Russia, while while simultaneously and previously

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Speaker 1: saving Hillary Clinton from what other Americans would have gotten,

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Speaker 1: which is an indictment. I think it is entirely correct

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Speaker 1: that this represents an unprecedented abuse of power. But Seawan,

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Speaker 1: that's no adjust your review. When my colleague Jim Jordan's

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Speaker 1: asked the General if you ever seen anything like this

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Speaker 1: or essentially the entire leadership of the FBI, how this

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Speaker 1: swapt out at once because of firings, demotions, criminal prosecutions,

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Speaker 1: conflicts of interest. Uh, they're leaving, you know, days after

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Speaker 1: they have to give testimony to Congress because they don't

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Speaker 1: want to have to account for that testimony. This is unprecedented.

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Speaker 1: Those aren't your words and my words. Those are the

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Speaker 1: words of Michael Horowitz, the Democrat. After General let me go,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of other issues now happening in Washington today,

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Speaker 1: and Congressman Andy Biggs with us uh And I know

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Speaker 1: you weren't in the hearings, Congressman, so I'm not really

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Speaker 1: going to ask you about that, but you are a

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Speaker 1: part of this effort on two different issues. Number one,

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Speaker 1: the move for Century as it relates to maxim Waters

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Speaker 1: number one, and number two the immigration bill, the more

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Speaker 1: liberal bill, and whether that has a chance of getting

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Speaker 1: more votes in the conservative one, which I hope not,

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Speaker 1: and where it's going. Well, first, let's take it first.

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Speaker 1: I have been in that hearing all day, Sean. But

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Speaker 1: but second of all, um, the immigration bill, the liberal

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Speaker 1: interview immigration bill that provided the innistry. The first vote

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Speaker 1: for general anesty failed with about a hundred. They only

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Speaker 1: got a hundred twenty posts there, so they're more conservative

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Speaker 1: build nine three, so they here difference there. The other

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Speaker 1: aspect is that filed the motion to send your Maxine

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Speaker 1: waters Um for her for her verbal uh pirade and

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Speaker 1: her inciting and inflammatory language. And Matt of course had

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Speaker 1: co sponsored with me, and we've got that. Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: that's pending right now. I've worked with leadership trying to

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Speaker 1: get some some some motion on it. They've asked me

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Speaker 1: do a couple of things. They're gonna try to do

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Speaker 1: a couple of things because she needs to be censured,

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Speaker 1: she needs to know she I think she really is

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Speaker 1: an official reprimand and she needs to be reprimanded for

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Speaker 1: her misconduct. Well, and what happens with that? What does

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Speaker 1: that ultimately mean? What it means is that the Body

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Speaker 1: itself has said you you have brought discredit to yourself

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Speaker 1: and to the Body, and so we are officially sanctioning you.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't but it doesn't remove her from office

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Speaker 1: of course, hasn't expelled from the Body, nor doesn't even

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Speaker 1: necessarily remove from a committee assignments that would be left

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Speaker 1: up to her leadership at that point and her and

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Speaker 1: her conference based on the fact that, uh, that she

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Speaker 1: was supermanded by the body. Let's talk about the immigration

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Speaker 1: bill now, the good Lap bill, which had I think

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Speaker 1: far more um was far better and far closer to

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Speaker 1: the four principles of the President. Outlying Congressman Gates, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we didn't get enough votes. Why can't we get Republicans

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Speaker 1: to And that's simple, fund the wall. Give the president

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Speaker 1: all the money from the wall upfront, because any money

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Speaker 1: promised down the road is never coming. Number two, it

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Speaker 1: would give the Democrats things they say that they want,

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Speaker 1: you know, protect. It would be a DOCCA fix, separation

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Speaker 1: of families fixed the president. I know his executive order

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Speaker 1: the other day. I don't think it's gonna pass muster

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Speaker 1: in any court. But putting that aside, it gives Congress

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Speaker 1: time to do their job. This is Congress's law. This

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Speaker 1: is a past president that put this into law. It's

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Speaker 1: not Trump. Donald Trump is the only one that stood

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Speaker 1: up and fixed it. Well, Sean, there are two key

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Speaker 1: questions that are dividing the Republican Party right now and immigration.

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Speaker 1: The first is whether anyone who can here illegally should

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Speaker 1: have a path to citizens. You know, it's my view

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Speaker 1: and it's the view of the good last and the

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Speaker 1: President that there is a way to be compassionate with

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Speaker 1: legal status with people who have come here, don't alter

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Speaker 1: their own But when you give people citizenship and first

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Speaker 1: generation illegal entry into the country, you you build all

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Speaker 1: the wrong incentives into the system. In my view, the

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Speaker 1: second key question is whether or not the parents of

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Speaker 1: the doctor kids ought to be given some opportunity to

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Speaker 1: live here eagerly and obtain citizenship. A lot of us

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Speaker 1: think that the problem that you have with with children

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Speaker 1: that we all want to be compassionate for is that

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Speaker 1: their parents are choosing to illegally enter our country against

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Speaker 1: the wishes of our country and against the dignity of

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Speaker 1: our very border. And so uh. The Conservatives believe that

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Speaker 1: we can be compassionate to children, but that we cannot

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Speaker 1: reward the illegal alien parents with citizenship, and we can

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Speaker 1: not create broad new pathways. And I hope that we

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Speaker 1: can make the conservative case of those trements that we

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Speaker 1: can persuade our colleagues. You know, I I don't think

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Speaker 1: this is difficult, But I don't think the Democrats want

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Speaker 1: a solution either, because they want to keep this as

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Speaker 1: a campaign issue. And as I said, every two in

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Speaker 1: four years, the playbook is the same. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: the four the four things that Democrats I think are

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Speaker 1: certain congressman bigs that they're going to do. They want

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Speaker 1: to impeach Trump, but they don't want to tell us

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Speaker 1: they want open borders. They're pretty transparent about that. They

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Speaker 1: want to keep Obamacare, pretty transparent about that. And they

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Speaker 1: want to take back the crumbs, as Nancy Pelosi calls them,

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Speaker 1: in other words, that the tax cuts from the hard

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Speaker 1: working men and women in this country. That's right, and

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Speaker 1: you know we're looking at it. You said, we're the

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Speaker 1: most uh serious and important midterm election and perhaps my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: And and it's because the very things that you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: They want the open borders. They don't want to give

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Speaker 1: us money to build the wall or secure the borders.

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Speaker 1: They want to take away the tax reform which is

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Speaker 1: now produced, uh, this robust economy, the foundation of an

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Speaker 1: economy that remember it wasn't too long for the President

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Speaker 1: Obamba and Hillary Clinton said hey, look, we'll never get

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Speaker 1: above one eight percent GDP growth when I canna see

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Speaker 1: that kind of growth ever again, and also takes this

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Speaker 1: reduction regulation, also takes his reduction in taxes. And people,

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Speaker 1: the great creators that Americans are, create jobs, they create

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Speaker 1: that wage increases, the first real wage increase that deeps

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Speaker 1: inflation in like forty years and the American people know it,

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Speaker 1: and so the Democrats they're left with thrown bombs that

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Speaker 1: which is but they do that every single election season.

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Speaker 1: This is the this is the silly season because they

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Speaker 1: don't have ideas. Uh, all right, let me get to

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Speaker 1: our busy phones here. Joe has been really patient. Joe

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Speaker 1: apparently is a union guy. And where aut tune a Pennsylvania?

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Speaker 1: What union are you? And Joe? Uh? Utility Workers Deutty

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Speaker 1: Workers of America. By the way, you guys work hard.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for what you do. I mean that, I

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Speaker 1: mean I know how hard you work every day. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: So what's on your mind this decision today? I know

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about Oh yeah, real quick. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I correct me if I'm wrong. But I thought there's

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Speaker 1: a coke fund which I have opted out, and I

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Speaker 1: thought that was the only money that went to the

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Speaker 1: politicians that you had no control over. Listen that that

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Speaker 1: option is available. You're absolutely right. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna be realistic and honest about it, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. Well, first of all, you've got

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Speaker 1: your your your initiation fees that you pay for unions

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Speaker 1: and union dudes that you pay, etcetera, etcetera. And you know,

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Speaker 1: and I know that there's a lot of pressure that

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Speaker 1: is brought to bear on a lot of people and

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Speaker 1: a lot of unions to do exactly what I was

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Speaker 1: talking about. Am I wrong? I'll admit I'm wrong, But

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of union guys and the problem

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Speaker 1: and the problem is I love rank and file guys,

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Speaker 1: I really do. They're the heart and soul of the country,

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Speaker 1: you know. I I view myself as the dishwasher and

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Speaker 1: the painter and the contractor because that's, you know, two

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Speaker 1: decades of my life. And I know how hard you

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Speaker 1: guys work. I want you to get the best salary

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Speaker 1: and the best benefits and every I hate bad bosses,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I wasn't, you know, putting my staff

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Speaker 1: on to pat myself on the back. But a lot

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Speaker 1: of these companies, if they would just treat people the

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Speaker 1: right way, that nobody's gonna go to a union. Nobody

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Speaker 1: in that works for me is going to join a

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Speaker 1: union on this radio show, because they're not gonna do

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Speaker 1: better with a union. It's just not gonna happen. Why

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Speaker 1: are you rolling your eyes just to annoy me? You're

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Speaker 1: rolling your eyes to annoy me. Oh okay, let's Lenda

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Speaker 1: being funny. But you know what I'm saying. There's a

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Speaker 1: way to treat people. And if you're doing well, then

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Speaker 1: the employees should do well. If the company is doing well,

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Speaker 1: let them benefit. That's why these tax cuts have been

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Speaker 1: so amazing for you know, the forgotten men and women

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Speaker 1: that have jobs that are now getting raises. Look at

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Speaker 1: what was it Walmart or Target this week? Fourteen dollars

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Speaker 1: an hour? You know is now they're starting wage the

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Speaker 1: minimum wage is. We don't need the government to tell

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Speaker 1: us it's eight dollars an hour, ten dollars. We don't

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Speaker 1: need that because the companies are doing it because now

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Speaker 1: they have more money because the government's getting out of

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Speaker 1: the way. Does that make sense? I thought you were

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Speaker 1: got one other quick Yeah, go ahead? What's that? Go ahead?

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Speaker 1: One quick question? I guess there was a vote something

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Speaker 1: today on the Social security I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: can explain that in time of your thoughts. I really

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Speaker 1: don't know what it meant or what it was about.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'll tell you what you're I think you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the Well, first of all, they have the

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Speaker 1: big immigration vote that's going on today. Let me let

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Speaker 1: me pull it up when we get back, and we

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Speaker 1: will and we'll literally why don't let's just give them

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Speaker 1: the details on that because we have another segment we

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Speaker 1: gotta do here and I don't want them to have

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Speaker 1: to wait a half hour. We'll come back. We got

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan of Ohio coming up and much more straight

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Speaker 1: a hut alright to the top of they are all right,

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Speaker 1: Jay Secular, Yeah, Jay Secular will be joining us as

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Speaker 1: well in the next hour. Also be checking checking in

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Speaker 1: Greg Jared, I see him in the next room over there.

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Speaker 1: He'll be joining us, and David Shone will be joining us.

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Speaker 1: Um So we'll get into Justice Kennedy if you just

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Speaker 1: getting in the car today, Uh, there's now a vacancy

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Speaker 1: in the U. S. Supreme Court. You know, I just

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Speaker 1: want to stop on one second here. You never Trumpers

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Speaker 1: out there. I want to address you, you know, you

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Speaker 1: people that were so critical of me for supporting Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: and you're not voting for Donald Trump under any circumstances.

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Speaker 1: I want people to understand there's something deep and profound

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Speaker 1: here because there's a lot of those people that are

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Speaker 1: trying to hide who they were and who they really

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Speaker 1: are and what they're kind of trying to do now.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there's a part of me that says, well,

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Speaker 1: better late than never. But the reality is all those

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Speaker 1: outspoken I'll never vote for Donald Trump, and I said, well,

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Speaker 1: that's a half a vote for Hillary. Now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden are trying to make their living sounding as

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Speaker 1: if to the most pro Trump people that have ever existed.

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00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: I want to actually name names. Maybe I'll do that

852
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: tomorrow because they're all full of crap and you them now,

853
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: But you want to know, the sad part of this

854
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: is they they only reason some of them now are

855
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: on board is because they're doing it. They're not doing

856
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: what we do when I met Barack Obama, and I

857
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: do a Lynskey, and I do Acorn, and I do

858
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: Reverend Right and Frank Marshall, Davis and Airs and Dorn

859
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: and the Church of g D America. I'm getting calls

860
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: from people like new King Ridge telling me that I'm

861
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: about to end my career. It's over, I'm going too

862
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: far and you need to let it go. And then

863
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: of course I'm I'm like, no, My my principles guide

864
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: me and my decision making and I was called an

865
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: unprincipled conservative, when Donald Trump, as I predicted, is governing

866
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: as or more conservatively then Ronald Reagan. It's actually the

867
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: comparisons are eerie. You've got evil empire. Mr Garbert Charp

868
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: down this wall, you got that, and then you got

869
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: let's see, uh, fire and fury, little rocket man. My

870
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: button is bigger than yours, and I'm gonna blow you

871
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: to smithereens if you if you dare try it. Now,

872
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: look what happened. Piece through strength actually works. He didn't

873
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: bribe dictators like Clinton or like Obuma. You know, now,

874
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: not only do we have, we wouldn't have had the

875
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: court decision the last two days of Hillary were president.

876
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: We wouldn't have now another opportunity to put another originalist

877
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: on the court. If Hillary Clinton won, you know, and

878
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: then you got I mean, you got the same old

879
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: predictable people starting with Bill Crystal, not that he's supporting

880
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: him or George Will. We've got a defeat Donald Trump

881
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: in the November. Okay, then what are you gonna get.

882
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: You're not getting tax cuts, the crumbs are gonna be

883
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: taken back. You get to keep Obamacare as if we

884
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: haven't had enough damage to the the American people and

885
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: their health care system with Obamacare, keep your doctor, keep

886
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: your playing, and save money. Nothing none of that came true.

887
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna have open borders because that's what they want,

888
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: and they want to impeach the president for what. And

889
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: none of these people have had the courage to go

890
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: out on a limb like we do every day. We

891
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: went out on a limb, and I stand by where

892
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: I stood because I knew Trump. I knew him. I

893
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: knew and I interviewed him. I looked him in the eye,

894
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: and my gut told me, Wow, this is a this

895
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: is a no brainer. He said he'd pick originalist. He

896
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: said he'd cut taxes. He said he wants to build

897
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: the wall. He said he'd get rid of burdensome regulations.

898
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: He said, if we're fighting wars were stupid. He tried

899
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: to talk to people, and he wasn't gonna do any

900
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: more bad deals or blackmail deals that never work anyway.

901
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: Rollttle Rocketman's not firing missiles at Japan, and he's not.

902
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: He's now literally dismantling missile launch pads and facilities. Gives

903
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: us our hostages back. He's purging the old guard of

904
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: his father. He's not having his yearly hate America rally.

905
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: And things are getting better by the way. Jerusalem is

906
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: now the capital of Israel, and the Iranian deal, well,

907
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: we're out of it. We just need our hundred and

908
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: fifty billion dollars pack. Thank you, Obama. And I just

909
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: I sit here and I'm watching some of these people.

910
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: You know, and Anna L. Rowe was as bad as anybody.

911
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: And I say that with great, great deference to people

912
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: like Andy McCarthy, and I mean that, Victor Davis Hanson

913
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: and some others. Even Rich Lowry, to his credit, has

914
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: come around quite a bit. Some of the other ones, Oh,

915
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: I I mean these I just can't take it. But

916
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: you know something, those people that they will never be

917
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: leaders unless you have skin in the game. And this,

918
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: you know, this is what we do differently. This is

919
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: why this show, I think is different. This is why

920
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't mind going out on a limb. I'm willing

921
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: to risk my career. I'm willing to put it all

922
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: on the line for what I believe in. And trust me,

923
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: there were people that wanted me dead when I was

924
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: vetting Obama. There were people that thought I was crazy,

925
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: that Trump had no chance to win. There are people

926
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: that didn't believe that he'd be this successful, that he

927
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: would govern with the conservative principles he's governing with, and

928
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: now that he put Neil Gorsuch on the Court. My

929
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: question to you, I'll never vote for Donald Trump people

930
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: is why where are you now? And some of you

931
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: are actually trying to jump on the Trump bandwagon today

932
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: because if you had your way, Hillary would be making

933
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: this choice. Hillary would be negotiating with the rand and

934
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: little rocket Man. Hillary would never have made Jerusalem the capital.

935
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: Hillary would never have cut taxes. Hillary would have nothing

936
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: but open borders. Hillary would now have her second Supreme

937
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: Court nominee. So I really don't have a lot of

938
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: you know, some of the people that I'm well because

939
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying it behind Yeah, you know why I don't

940
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: want to do because I'm just It's just there's a

941
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: part I know people that I could ruin their lives

942
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: today because of their stupidity, and I just don't do

943
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: it now. Somewhere deep inside of me, my parents taking

944
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: me to church every Sunday, the aim of the Father

945
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: and of the Son of the Holy Spirit. Amen, it

946
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: got in. Somehow God got in there, and I was

947
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: fighting at tooth and nail. I didn't want to be

948
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: in church. I didn't want to I was causing trouble

949
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: in church. Then my father made me be an altar boy.

950
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: That was worse. You know, we're drinking the wine behind

951
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: the It was not good. I was. I was incorrigible.

952
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, I really do believe strongly in a God,

953
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: and I believe the whole story of Jesus, and I

954
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: just know and I believe that there's that He created

955
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: all of this. And I don't think God made us

956
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: to be timid and weak. I think God, you know,

957
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have this microphone, in the honor of

958
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: this microphone that you give me every day by listening

959
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: to this program, Yeah, I'm gonna vet Obama, Yeah I am,

960
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna do the best job I Kenny, even

961
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: if nobody else is doing it. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm

962
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: gonna vet every presidential candidate and I'm gonna tell you

963
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: the truth about how I think they're gonna govern. And

964
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold back. And even though there was

965
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: probably at least fifty thousand versions of Hannity's career is

966
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: over written before the November elections. I'm glad it turned

967
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 1: out right, not for my sake, for the country's sake.

968
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: And I'm doing the same thing now with Robert Muller

969
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: and his witch hunt and Rod Rosenstein, and we're doing

970
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: this exactly what We're going out on a limit. I mean,

971
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy this week when the Wall Street

972
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: Journal jumped in. Gee a little late, guys, But the

973
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: reality is, it is the biggest corruption scandal in the

974
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: history of the country. It's the biggest abuse of power

975
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: scandal in the history of the country. And there have

976
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: been a few of us that have been willing to

977
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: go out on a limb and do real reporting and

978
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: get to the truth. And a part of me should

979
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: be satisfied inasmuch as we have corroborated everything. Hillary broke

980
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: the law, she committed felonies. Hillary in fact used bleach

981
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: bit two acid wash her hard drive, saying it that way.

982
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: What's the name of that stupid publication that didn't understand

983
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't have to go to one of their stupid

984
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: red carpet went the first time, want to waste. Yeah,

985
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: she did the biggest, the clearest obstruction case ever. Yeah,

986
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: Christian Saucy went to jail six six a year from

987
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: six pictures. And then we see the FISA warrant issues.

988
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: True too, But Comey and and Struck and McCabe and

989
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: Page and Loretta Lynch, all of them abuse their power

990
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: because they put the fix in to save Hillary from

991
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: an indictment and jail because she was the favored candidate.

992
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: And then they actively purposefully went to undermine Donald Trump

993
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: with lies and FBI spies inside the Trump campaign and

994
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: then lying to fis A court judges, violating the FISAL

995
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: loss law, which is so crucial if you believe in

996
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: the Fourth Amendment to our Constitution against unreasonable surgeons seizure.

997
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: That's all true too. We told you, Mark Sevenen there

998
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: was a fightser warrant against the Trump campaign, and we

999
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: haven't stopped. And everything that we've said has been right,

1000
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: accurate and true. And I'll be honest, I don't want

1001
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: any credit. I do think people like Sarah Carter deserve

1002
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: a Pulitzer, but of course that will never happen in

1003
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: this corrupt world. And the meat you basically just an

1004
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: extension of all things liberal. What have they done. They

1005
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: have advanced a lie and a narrative does the design

1006
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: to undermine a duly elected president of the United States.

1007
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: It's the biggest story ever in our lifetime. If we

1008
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: don't get it right, we're gonna be Venezuela. If we

1009
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: don't get it right, it's gonna be the former Soviet Union.

1010
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: If we don't get it right, equal justice, equal application

1011
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: of our laws are done. It's finished, it's over. And

1012
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: the foundation of this great republic, this this this constitutional Republic,

1013
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: is the constitution that is the foundation of all of

1014
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: our laws. You know. That's why I mean, it's almost

1015
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: a little ironic, all the cuts of Obama that we've

1016
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: been telling playing he actually understood the truth, but he

1017
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: didn't live by the truth. I'm not an emperor. I

1018
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: can't do these things by executive And how funny people

1019
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: think that I could just put the magic wand of

1020
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: a pen fix the law. Now we have coequal branches

1021
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: of government. We have in this country separation of powers.

1022
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: And that's why, for example, the vacancy now at the U. S.

1023
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: Supreme Court matters Who's and Hillary would be choosing. I don't.

1024
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: I am never going to be a Republican again. I

1025
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: vote for the person I am a conservative. I'm not

1026
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: a populist. I'm not a nationalist. My entire career has

1027
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: been one of consistent Reagan Conservatism. I've not changed an iota.

1028
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: And I know people in this industry, for whatever reason,

1029
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: maybe ratings up and down. There's always there's always cycles

1030
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: and news and sometimes it's slow news and business. But

1031
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: they feel like they've got to remake themselves. And all

1032
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: it is is a means of manipulating you, the American people.

1033
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: But that you know, one thing I have learned, and

1034
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: I said this to Mark Levin recently, you can't really

1035
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: fake it for three hours a day on radio because,

1036
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: like in the election that just passed in you, the

1037
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: American people are too smart. You know the you know

1038
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: the phonies, you know the showman, you know the Kanmon,

1039
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: you know the liars, you know the Johnny Come Lately's.

1040
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: You know when people put it on the line and

1041
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: when people don't. You know what all I want to

1042
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 1: do for the rest of my life, I just want

1043
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: to serve anyway I can. That's it. Do my little

1044
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: part and be a spoken the wheel and just do

1045
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: my part every day. And part of my part is

1046
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: to do what I always do and that's climbed the tree,

1047
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: go on the out on the smallest limb and the

1048
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: smallest branch, and find the one leaf that didn't fall

1049
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: during the last fall and hang on to that because

1050
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: I know it's the truth. That's what we do on

1051
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: this show. For all the people in the media. They

1052
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: don't understand hand it. He's number one in cave, But

1053
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: why that's the secret. I tell the people the truth.

1054
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: And I have respect for the people of this country

1055
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: because you make it great, not me. You get up

1056
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: every day, you work hard, played by the rules, pay

1057
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: your taxes, raise your kids, obey the laws, serve other

1058
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: people every single solitary day, and you don't bitch, wine

1059
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: and complain about it. But you're screwed over by your government.

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Speaker 1: Well you kind of do complain, We all do, and

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Speaker 1: you're screwed over over by your government. Finally, when now

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Speaker 1: we're cleaning up the mess, that's it. You want to

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Speaker 1: understand who I am. That's it in a nutshell, And

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Speaker 1: I don't give a flying rip what any of these

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Speaker 1: people think. They discussed me in the media. Johnny come lately.

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Speaker 1: I have no respect for you at all, and you

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Speaker 1: know who you are. Glad to with us. We continue

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Speaker 1: our big news today the Supreme Court Justice Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: he's really moved solidly left. He's viewed as the swing

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Speaker 1: vote on the Supreme Court. Justice Uh Kennedy has now

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Speaker 1: announced his retirement at the age of eighty one years

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Speaker 1: of age. Let's go back on our archives and pull

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Speaker 1: out some of the sound from some of the decisions

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Speaker 1: he's been involved in. The same, it seems to me,

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Speaker 1: would be true, say for the market in emergency services, police, fire, ambulance,

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Speaker 1: roadside assistance, whatever. You don't know when you're going to

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Speaker 1: need it. You're not sure that you will. But the

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Speaker 1: same is true for healthcare. You don't know if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna need a heart transplant or if you ever will.

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Speaker 1: So there's a market there too. In some extent we

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Speaker 1: all participate in it. So can the government require you

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Speaker 1: to buy a cell phone, because that would facilitate responding

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Speaker 1: when you need emergency services? You can just dial nine

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Speaker 1: one one, no matter where you are. Normo's Chief Justice.

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Speaker 1: I think that's different. It's the wait. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we think of that as a market. This is a market.

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Speaker 1: This is market regulation. And an addition, you have a

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Speaker 1: situation in this market not only where people enter uh

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Speaker 1: involuntarily as to when they enter and won't be able

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Speaker 1: to control what they need what they enter. But it

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Speaker 1: seems to me that's the same as in my hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: You don't know when you're going to need police assistance.

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Speaker 1: You can predict the extent to emergency response that you'll

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Speaker 1: need um, but when you do and the government provides it,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was an important part of your argument

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Speaker 1: that when you need healthcare, the government will make sure

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Speaker 1: you get it. And here the government is saying that

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Speaker 1: the federal government has a duty to tell the individual

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Speaker 1: citizen that it must act, and that is different from

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Speaker 1: what we have in previous cases. That changes the relationship

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Speaker 1: of the federal government to the individual in a very

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Speaker 1: fundamental way. It seems to me that you cannot say

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Speaker 1: that everybody is going to need substance use of treatment,

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Speaker 1: all right. So that was just as Kennedy, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we've done our research, and what have we found

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Speaker 1: that there are For example, if you look at John

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Speaker 1: Roberts on the healthcare the a c. A. Supreme Court decision,

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Speaker 1: that was the one time he sided with the left

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Speaker 1: wing of the activist wing. If you will, of the

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, UH, Clarence Thomas over the many many years. UH.

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Speaker 1: You know, under maritime law law, an injured tug boat

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Speaker 1: worker could seek punitive damages from his employer. In another

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Speaker 1: case sided with the left wing on the court, and

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Speaker 1: that involved an injury locomotive engineer who was entitled to damages.

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Speaker 1: That's it. In the case of Antonin Scalia, it was

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Speaker 1: twice two that he sided with the more left wing

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Speaker 1: of the court and uh case he found that a

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Speaker 1: defendant who had been wrongly forced to accept a lawyer

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Speaker 1: is entitled to have a conviction overturned. And more recently,

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Speaker 1: before Antonin Scalia passed away, he ruled that states may

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Speaker 1: exercise supervision over banks in addition to federal regulators, which

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Speaker 1: is almost pretty consistent as Scalia always was with his

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Speaker 1: originalist philosophy. But in the case of Anthony Kennedy it's

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Speaker 1: twenty five times he was the swing vote. And just

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Speaker 1: as Kennedy joined the courts more conservative wing of the

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Speaker 1: court about twice as often and as the liberal half,

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Speaker 1: But twenty five major key decisions is a big deal,

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Speaker 1: especially in a divided court. Look at the decision yesterday

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Speaker 1: as it relates to you know, the President finally winning

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Speaker 1: the battle about the band that he put in place.

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Speaker 1: Anyway here to discuss and debate. Greg Jarrett, Fox News

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Speaker 1: analysts His book is coming out on just a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks now, the Russia hoax, the illicits game to

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Speaker 1: clear Hillary Clinton and Uhald Donald Trump and also David

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Speaker 1: Shown civil liberties attorney and criminal rights attorney politically speaking

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Speaker 1: to me, this heading into the midterms is going to

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Speaker 1: have a big impact your thoughts. It's gonna be huge,

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Speaker 1: and it's I think, frankly good news for conservatives and

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Speaker 1: Republicans because this will trigger Republicans to go to the

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Speaker 1: polls on election Day in droves because they will be

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Speaker 1: scared that if the Democrats take over the U. S. Senate, Uh,

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Speaker 1: they won't be able to replace Kennedy with a rock

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Speaker 1: solid conservative and this is a golden opportunity to do that. Kennedy, yes,

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Speaker 1: the swing vote, but he has been uh a schizophrenic jurist. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He you know, there's no telling where he's going to go.

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Speaker 1: He's in consistency in his judicial philosophy is obvious to all,

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Speaker 1: and he's been a disappointment, quite frankly to conservative. Well,

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Speaker 1: David Suitor has been the biggest disappointment because he was

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Speaker 1: appointed by George Herbert Walker Bush and he has been

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Speaker 1: a solid leftist, activist liberal judge from day one, and

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Speaker 1: and he always votes with the liberal wing of of

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Uh, David shown you actually have a

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Speaker 1: little different political philosophy than I do. But I view

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Speaker 1: myself as an originalist, and I believe in originalism, if

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Speaker 1: you will, and in other words, of strict interpretation of

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Speaker 1: the Constitution. And I'm not a big believer in judicial

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Speaker 1: activism or you know, making laws as some do from

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Speaker 1: the bench. And you know, we've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: judicial activism, especially out of say the Ninth Circuit Court

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Speaker 1: of Appeals, which is why you know the left often

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Speaker 1: goes judge shopping and they'll go to an area like

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Speaker 1: California or Portland or Hawaii knowing that when it gets

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Speaker 1: to the Ninth Circuit that they're probably going to be

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Speaker 1: an activist group. Well, I mean, as usual I have.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right and what you've said, um certainly about

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Speaker 1: the Ninth Circuit House to say about Justice Suitor happened

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Speaker 1: to have been a friendly friends of Justice. Suitor and

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Speaker 1: he's a great guy. What everyone thinks about his judicial philosophy. Look,

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Speaker 1: I would say that, um, Justice Kennedy, I made some

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Speaker 1: notes for myself, breaks down like this if you look

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Speaker 1: at certain of the key cases. When Citizens United, which

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Speaker 1: is a big case for the rights supposedly he was

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Speaker 1: with he wrote the opinion Bush versus Gore's with the

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Speaker 1: majority second Amendment. He's pretty good voting rights, pretty good

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Speaker 1: for the right travel band case, the Texas Redistrict and

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Speaker 1: case recently, I did an amicus brief in the Masterpiece

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Speaker 1: cakes uh cake shop case, the recent one, um on

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Speaker 1: behalf of the baker on behalf of the amicas called

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Speaker 1: restoring Religious Freedom project. You know, he wrote in our

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Speaker 1: favor on that case. The left likes him better on

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Speaker 1: issues like gay rights, of course, and abortion and affirmative

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Speaker 1: action and the death penalty. So on the one hand, Um,

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Speaker 1: while one might say that schizophrenic. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: some might say it's a judicial philosophy, um, kind of

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Speaker 1: on the merits of the case, and that he was

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Speaker 1: down the middle sort of justice. Uh. He disappointed me, well,

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Speaker 1: he did, But I mean in that sense I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't gain or or glean from him a consistent

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Speaker 1: judicial philosophy, which I think, for example, really governs people

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Speaker 1: like sam Alito and Anton and Scalia. Before he passed away,

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Speaker 1: and certainly Justice Thomas Jay Sekula was with us. He's

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Speaker 1: the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and

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Speaker 1: Justice and also counsel to the President President Trump. UH.

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Speaker 1: To me, this is now going to have a big

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Speaker 1: impact on the election because Supreme Court nominees and Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court justices impact this country for generations to come. Jay,

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Speaker 1: it's the lasting legacy, Shaun, of every president is the

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Speaker 1: selections of judges, in particular Supreme Court justices. I had

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Speaker 1: the honor of appearing before Justice Kennedy for almost three decades. UH,

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Speaker 1: and more time than not he agreed with the position

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Speaker 1: I advocated. How many times have you argued before the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court? At least twenty? Right? We had? Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: we had, we we've had now effective after a couple

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Speaker 1: of that came down to the Limpack cases this week

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Speaker 1: about twenty and and how the twenty how many did

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Speaker 1: you win? And I and by the way, you're not

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Speaker 1: take it on easy cases. You take on really serious, hard,

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Speaker 1: difficult constitutional issues about I think about seventy eight percent

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Speaker 1: of the time we've been successful. I will say this,

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Speaker 1: Justice Kennedy has been um generally in our favor on

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Speaker 1: probably of those cases. When he dissented, Um, he did

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Speaker 1: so in a respectful way. That's the way he as

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Speaker 1: a judge. He did it with reason. We disagreed on

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Speaker 1: the reason, obviously, but but he was definitely what I

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Speaker 1: would call of a justice that you was probably the

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Speaker 1: most pivotal vote on so many cases. Look at this

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Speaker 1: term now, this term he ruled, uh, consistently conservative on

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Speaker 1: a lot of case in all of them, but on

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Speaker 1: a lot of them, but more than any other justice.

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Speaker 1: For example, Roberts one time has gone with the more

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Speaker 1: left wing jurists on the cord and Clarence Thomas only

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Speaker 1: two times, and Anton and Scalia only two times, and

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Speaker 1: sam Alito never absolutely zero. But that's right, and and

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Speaker 1: and here's what you had with Justice Kennedy. He on

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Speaker 1: for instance, on the religion clauses, the First Amendment Establishment

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Speaker 1: clause for exercise of religion, he was he was most

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Speaker 1: frequently very much pro religious freedom. He saw that even

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Speaker 1: this term. Uh, He's also was very good on the

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Speaker 1: speech cases. So I had a lot of those and

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Speaker 1: though some of those were close cases. Um. You saw

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Speaker 1: that most recently in the Nationalist Tute for Family Life Advocates.

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Speaker 1: I had a case, the companion case of that uh

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Speaker 1: up at the same time that was up yesterday as well.

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Speaker 1: That was now that we won that my case would

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Speaker 1: be a reversal. So he was. But then on there

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Speaker 1: were other issues where he was not consistent with the

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Speaker 1: conservative position, having said that the president has a unique

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Speaker 1: opportunity to not only impact the force of the judiciary

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Speaker 1: for for generations, but also to appoint a justice in

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Speaker 1: the mold of and this is what's important here. He's

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Speaker 1: not obligated to to appointed justice in the mold of

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Speaker 1: Justice Kennedy, although Justice Kennedy on a lot of cases

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Speaker 1: got it right, but he tends to President Trump like

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Speaker 1: the judicial philosophy of antonin Scalia. You saw that with

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Speaker 1: Justice Force. I think that's exactly what you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: with the next nominee, that type of how I mean,

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Speaker 1: how fast I would assume the president has a short

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Speaker 1: list already, and the President probably knew very well this

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Speaker 1: was a possibility. I mean, rumors now have been running

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Speaker 1: around for two weeks about Justice Kennedy. Um, So I

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Speaker 1: would assume the president probably has a name he could

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Speaker 1: put forward any day. Look, any president, this president particular,

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Speaker 1: is always prepared for what at the end of the

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Speaker 1: term happens, and that is justice is especially with an

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Speaker 1: aging court justices that retire that what's happened here. So

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Speaker 1: I know that the president, as I'm sure, a list

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Speaker 1: of names, and we'll put forward nominee, a nominee that

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Speaker 1: he feels is most qualified to build this spot, uh

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Speaker 1: and to advocate a judicial philosophy that matches his position

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Speaker 1: as president of the United States. Let me go back

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Speaker 1: to Greg Jared. I mean Greg, because the impact of

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Speaker 1: this is now massive. I mean, we've sent so many

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Speaker 1: five four decisions. This would almost lock in. If the

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Speaker 1: president picked somebody that had a originalist judicial philosophy like

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Speaker 1: Anton and Scalia, this would lock in five four pretty much. Originalist, textualist,

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Speaker 1: strict constructionists. Use any term you want. That was the

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Speaker 1: mold of Anton and Scalia is the you know, it's

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Speaker 1: what Clarence Thomas adopts. Alito tends to be that as well.

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Speaker 1: Robert's not so much but still a conservative, and Gorsage

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Speaker 1: as well. So you want somebody in that mold, not

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Speaker 1: in the mold of Anthony Kennedy, who was notoriously this

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Speaker 1: the swing. You never knew which way he was going

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Speaker 1: to go. Um. And the White House has a huge

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Speaker 1: advantage here because they're experienced in already guiding a nominee

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Speaker 1: successfully through the process in the U. S. Senate, and

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Speaker 1: they already had a list. You know, the President may

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Speaker 1: turn to the second or third or fourth choice that

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Speaker 1: he had behind Corsich. Uh, and these people have already

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Speaker 1: been well vetted, in re vetted, in vetted all over again.

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Speaker 1: Because this was no secret that Kennedy was contemplating retirement.

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Speaker 1: Many people thought he'd do it last term. He didn't.

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Speaker 1: He did it this term. Um. And you know, so

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Speaker 1: they're well prepared for this. And the President I guarantee

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01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: you will now be running on this issue as he

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Speaker 1: endorses candidates and campaigns across the nation in the run

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Speaker 1: up to the mid term elections, because all will depend

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Speaker 1: on the U. S. Senate and Republicans whole lean it.

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Speaker 1: David shown David, let me get to you. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna carry you guys into the next

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Speaker 1: half hour. This is just too big a day here

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Speaker 1: too big a news, and we want to go over

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Speaker 1: the plethora of topics that literally now potentially covered as

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Speaker 1: a result of Justice Kennedy retiring. Uh, David Shone, you

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Speaker 1: seem to like the fact that he's down the middle.

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Speaker 1: I tend to have a more more originalist philosophy, and

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Speaker 1: I don't like judicial activism in any way. But now

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Speaker 1: I hear you. Look, they're certainly an entire school of

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Speaker 1: judicial philosophers who say predictability in the court it should

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Speaker 1: have the premium also so that we know is lower

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Speaker 1: courts get guidance from the higher court what direction the

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Speaker 1: court is going to go in. And certainly someone another originalist,

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Speaker 1: as you might call it, um would aid debt. Don't

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Speaker 1: you know? You asked Jay Seculo. Um he might be

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Speaker 1: the next nominee frankly, but he certainly would know who

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Speaker 1: it might accept too old. Yeah, No, I hope not

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Speaker 1: Um in any event, though, But you know he couldn't

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Speaker 1: say that I would have I want to throw out there. Uh.

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01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: You know, one of the names originally on the President's

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Speaker 1: list before Justice Gorsuch was named was Diane's Psykes in

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Speaker 1: the Seventh Circuit. I recently argued a case before her

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Speaker 1: on a panel she ended up writing the decision in

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Speaker 1: our favor on a voting rights case pallot access case.

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Speaker 1: She was terrific. I mean, she was as sharp a

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Speaker 1: judge as I have appeared before on an appellate panel,

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Speaker 1: and many many years, many many of pellet panels. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the name to look out for, um in

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Speaker 1: any event, Well, I agree, how many times have you

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Speaker 1: argued now before the Supreme Court. I haven't argued before

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Speaker 1: the Spreme Court. I filed many, many briefs, Um, but

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Speaker 1: I haven't argued here. And Jay Secular certainly has and

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Speaker 1: knows the court very well. I'm a student of the

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Speaker 1: court and always have been. And as I say, it

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01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: was friendly with Justice Suitor and others. But yeah, whatever

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Speaker 1: happened to Justice suit her. He was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: the great originalist himself. He turned out to be a

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Speaker 1: major disappointment. And he regularly votes with the left wing

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Speaker 1: of the court. I mean he basically has, you know,

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Speaker 1: aligned himself with Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Bryer and

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Speaker 1: Elena Kagan and John Paul Stevens and Sonia's out of

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Speaker 1: my r you know, that's that's where he's been over

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Speaker 1: the years. Sometimes to me, at least, the labels don't

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Speaker 1: hold up necessarily. For example, Justice I was going to say,

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Speaker 1: all right, hang on one second, we'll pick up, we'll

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Speaker 1: continue j Secular David Shone and Greg Jarrett, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Justice Kennedy is now retired. A Supreme Court vacancy now

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Speaker 1: exists that we'll get to your calls as well on

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01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: shan Congress commerce in order to regulate it. That's not

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Speaker 1: what's going on here, Justice Kennedy, And we're not seeking

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Speaker 1: to defend the law on that basis. In this case.

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Speaker 1: The what is being regulated is the method of financing

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Speaker 1: health the purchase of healthcare. That itself is economic activity

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Speaker 1: with substantial effects on interstate commerce. And so any any

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Speaker 1: self purchasing anything I purchas you know, if if if

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Speaker 1: I'm in any any market at all, my failure to

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Speaker 1: purchase something in that market subjects me to regulation. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not our position at all, Justice school you in

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Speaker 1: the healthcare market. The health care market is characterized by

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Speaker 1: the fact that, aside from the few groups that Congress

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Speaker 1: chose to exempt from the minimum coverage requirement, those who

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Speaker 1: for religious reasons don't participate those who are incarcerated UH

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Speaker 1: Indian tribes. Virtually everybody else is either in that market

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Speaker 1: or will be in that market. And the distinguishing feature

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Speaker 1: of that is that they cannot people cannot generally control

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Speaker 1: when they enter that market or what they need when

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Speaker 1: they enter that All right, that was the a c

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Speaker 1: A Debate Regulation meeting, and of course that decision was

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Speaker 1: lost UH and the a c A was considered constitutional.

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01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: That was one of the worst decisions, definitely a definitive

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Speaker 1: moment in terms of John Robertson. It was believed at

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Speaker 1: the last minute that he changed his decision had been

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Speaker 1: reported fairly widely because he didn't want the court to

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Speaker 1: be it is political in anyway as the Chief Justice. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we continue with Jay Secular the American Center for Law

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Speaker 1: and Justice and Counsel to the President. Greg Jarrett is

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Speaker 1: with us, and don't forget, his new book is coming

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Speaker 1: out and it is the Illicit Scheme, the Russia hoax,

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Speaker 1: the elicit scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: David Shown criminal defense Attorney, Civil Liberties Attorney Jay. That

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Speaker 1: one decision shocked everybody, and especially because the Chief Justice,

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Speaker 1: it had been reported, had changed his mind on that. Well,

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Speaker 1: it happens. And Uh, the fact is that I think

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Speaker 1: David said this earlier that sometimes the ideological lines don't

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Speaker 1: mess it so well when it is in fact they

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Speaker 1: become a justice of the Supreme Court. So what you

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Speaker 1: want to have or what you want to see is

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Speaker 1: the best you can And there's never a guarantee that

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Speaker 1: the individual that's been nominated has a clear and concise

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Speaker 1: judicial philosophy respecting the rule of law and respecting the

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Speaker 1: Constitution that has a view of the Constitution that, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, you want to all the originalist if that's

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Speaker 1: the phrase you want to use, that the way you

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Speaker 1: amend the Constitution is to amend it, not by a

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Speaker 1: judicial fiat. So where Justice Kennedy was not a predictable vote,

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Speaker 1: I suspect, And and and you know that the president is

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Speaker 1: going to be looking for a vote a justice who

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Speaker 1: will vote in a manner that is has a consistent

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Speaker 1: judicial philosophy. Again, you never are Dent Shore shown. You

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Speaker 1: do the best you can't look, Uh, you do the

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Speaker 1: best you can. I think the case in point, although

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Speaker 1: he's no longer there, I keep bringing him up as

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Speaker 1: David Suitor. I mean I think he was one of them.

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Speaker 1: How but if you were, you could you could do

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Speaker 1: that for others too. I mean, how about the John

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Speaker 1: Kennedy nominates Byron White to to tell you how old

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Speaker 1: I am. I appear before Byron White and Byron Wright

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01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: was appointed by John Kennedy, was deemed to be a liberal.

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01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: It was gonna be a liberal member of the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: and was perhaps the most conservative justice of the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court of the United States, that is during his tenure.

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Speaker 1: So you don't know, but you do have track records.

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01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: Now there's a whole list of Pellet judges, uh and

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Speaker 1: and some non judges too that have written track records.

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Speaker 1: You understand where they are. And you've got to ask

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Speaker 1: the right questions on judicial philosophy. And I am sure

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01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: that the White House was prepared and is prepared to

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Speaker 1: move expeditiously on this. Um. There's been let me, let

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Speaker 1: me let me throw out some name. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: Brent Kavanaugh. Have you heard of his name? But yeah, great, Um,

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Speaker 1: what do you know about him? Or you know, for example,

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Speaker 1: William Pryor's name. He was brought up the last time.

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Speaker 1: That's another name Bill was. Bill was on the shortlist.

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Speaker 1: Last time I've I've been I've been friends with Bill Prior,

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Speaker 1: but I've also worked with Bill Prior actually, so I've

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Speaker 1: been a great judge of the eleven Circuit. Brett Kavanaugh

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Speaker 1: is another one. I knew Brett from his days in

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Speaker 1: the Bush administration. H him in private practice. We've worked

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Speaker 1: some cases together. It's been an excellent judge of the

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Speaker 1: Court of Appeals. I think David mentioned Diane Sykes, another

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Speaker 1: very very well respected UH Court of Appeals nominee UM,

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Speaker 1: and there'll be some others. So the way it works

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Speaker 1: is there's a list, the White House is constantly working

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Speaker 1: on that list, narrowing it down, and then the President

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Speaker 1: will once again do interviews and UH. Then the usually

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Speaker 1: the White House Council participates in all of this, and

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Speaker 1: it will be narrowed down, and I suspect we'll get

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Speaker 1: a nomination in short order. I don't want to predict

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Speaker 1: the dates. I don't know the date, but I this

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Speaker 1: is none of this is shocking to the White House.

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Speaker 1: That is prepared and this White House Council's office in

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Speaker 1: the White House, there was a lot of there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of speculation on this, and there has been

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Speaker 1: for a long time, and just the sheer age of

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Speaker 1: the court. You always have to be prepared. Agree with

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Speaker 1: that as well. What about Paul Clement? Do you know him?

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Speaker 1: I do. Clement was the Solicitor General of the United

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Speaker 1: States under George W. Bushy and I have done probably

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Speaker 1: four or five cases together at the Supreme Court. Not

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Speaker 1: a judge, excellent lawyer, has a tremendous reputation, would be

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Speaker 1: a excellent excellent Supreme Is there any other name on

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01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: the short list that you can think of? Um, there's there,

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01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: There are, there's others out there. Viett in who one

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01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: of the partners of Clement could be on a short

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Speaker 1: list for the Supreme Court? About jo on the shortlist,

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking you, old man, you got you you want?

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01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 1: You want? You want them in their in their late forties,

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01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, FID forties, late forties, early fifties. You don't

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01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: want old geezers like you only sixty two year old. Um,

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01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: So you know. And I'm plenty bretty busy right now

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01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: in case you haven't noticed, So you know, I think, Look,

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01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of good options

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01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: out there. What you're looking for is, like I said,

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01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: I had the privilege of appearing before Justice Kennedy for

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01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: three decades. He ruled with me more times than not.

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01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,959
Speaker 1: When he disagreed, his descents were reasoned. I just disagreed

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01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: with the reasons. What you're looking for now is I

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01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: think the president has an opportunity someone like a Justice

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01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: Gorset that is, uh, that kind of judicial philosophy. So

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Speaker 1: I think that's what you're looking for here. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I look at women that are there's a lot by

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Speaker 1: the way. This is where, of course I could do this.

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Speaker 1: This is where elections matter, you know, Greg Jared, this

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Speaker 1: is why this was one of the biggest That's why

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01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand the never trumpers because Donald Trump had

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01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 1: promised an originalist and he said, who are your favorite

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01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: or your favorite Supreme Court justices? He said Scalia and

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01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: he said Clarence Thomas. He was very clear, and that

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Speaker 1: meant those are the type of justices he'd be looking for.

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Speaker 1: And it appears by the way that he found one,

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Speaker 1: and Neil Gorst's right he did. And look two things.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he's going to try to get with

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Speaker 1: the help of Mitch McConnell, to get the nominee through

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Speaker 1: before the November elections, but Democrats will try to obstruct

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Speaker 1: and delay all they possibly can. I mean, the president

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Speaker 1: would love to have somebody seated by the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the tourm in October, so that I mean, that is

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Speaker 1: one possibility, but it will only underscore, uh, the issue

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Speaker 1: of the U. S. Supreme Court in the mid term elections,

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Speaker 1: even if they get somebody seated ahead of time. Second

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Speaker 1: of all, you want to find somebody is j pointed

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Speaker 1: out who is is younger? For example, Amy Barrett, Court

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Speaker 1: of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit. She was born in

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. So you would have a woman who

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Speaker 1: is reasonably young who would be on the court for

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Speaker 1: a long time. And that is always important for uh,

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Speaker 1: for presidents, that is their legacy. Uh. You know. The

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Speaker 1: other thing to point out is that you don't want

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Speaker 1: to with and for goodness six the presidential landscape is

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Speaker 1: littered with Republican presidents who made mistakes. Eisenhower said the

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Speaker 1: two biggest mistakes he ever made the appointment of William

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Speaker 1: Brennan and Earl Warren, who turned out to be two

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices who were liberal. Ronald Reagan was only

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Speaker 1: one for three. He appointed Sandra day O Connor uh,

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Speaker 1: as well as Anthony Kennedy. Uh. I mean he only

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Speaker 1: got one right, which yeah, But the only problem is

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Speaker 1: it's always Republican presidents that get it wrong. Well, I

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Speaker 1: can't think Kennedy appointed Wizzer White. Uh. We have to

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Speaker 1: go back to nineteen sixty one to find the one

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Speaker 1: example where a liberal well, and Kennedy wasn't even a liberal.

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Speaker 1: I mean Kennedy at least on economy and in many

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Speaker 1: ways would be judged as a conservative today. Let me

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Speaker 1: bring David shown back in David right. You know. One

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I mentioned Diane Psykes is to the

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Speaker 1: point Greg just me that is, if you want to

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Speaker 1: move this thing through quickly, and obviously that has to

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Speaker 1: be balanced because it's an important decision. But she's less controversial.

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Speaker 1: She certainly has a president judicial philosophy. But with all

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Speaker 1: due respect, I mean Judge Kavanaugh and Judge William Prior

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Speaker 1: are going to be very controversial decision because of some

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Speaker 1: things they have said. They've been brought up before. Um,

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Speaker 1: some people thought some of them with the death now,

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Speaker 1: but let me make this point because this to me

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Speaker 1: is a tremendous program you're doing today. You're providing tremendous

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Speaker 1: educational resource on this subject. I've been I've been accused

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Speaker 1: of a lot worse, but look ahead, thank you. So many,

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Speaker 1: so many things these days are polarizing. Let's be clear,

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes originalist is used as a bad term

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01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: to the left door liberal is a bad term to

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Speaker 1: take a guy like Justice Scalia. I don't suggest you're

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Speaker 1: gonna find a duplicate of him, but he had by

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Speaker 1: all accounts left than right. He had one of the

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Speaker 1: great minds on the court. And you say he was predictable.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, who would think that when it

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Speaker 1: comes to a criminal defendant he would line up with them?

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Speaker 1: At times? For him, the confrontation clause, the right to

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Speaker 1: really cross examine out the truth was key of key

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Speaker 1: importance to him. That might you might say that's a

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Speaker 1: liberal issue, but it's not. It's a constitutional issue, and

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Speaker 1: that's how we saw it. So some of you you're

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Speaker 1: not going to find necessarily someone with the depth and

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Speaker 1: breath that he had. But let's be clear, you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't mean these words as bad words. He was

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Speaker 1: a guy who fought through the issues and that's how

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Speaker 1: he came down said, well, let me but Jay, and

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Speaker 1: let's let's be very blunt and very honest here. I

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Speaker 1: mean knowing you know, the borking of Robert Borke, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we go back there. You know, there was probably no greater,

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Speaker 1: smarter judicial mind ever that was more qualified to actually

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Speaker 1: be on the Supreme Court. But then Ted Kennedy, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's now become a verb of you will or you know, borking,

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Speaker 1: and and and literally they they they demonize this man

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Speaker 1: in such an unfair inaccurate way. If it seems that

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Speaker 1: if anybody has a history of writings on judicial philosophy

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01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: or ideology, g thought, it's almost a death knell for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they can't do that anymore for two reasons. Number One,

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01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: the rules of the Senate are now a simple majority

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01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: soft plus one, and that person is confirmed. Number Two,

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Speaker 1: the media landscape today is much different than it was

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Speaker 1: during Robert forts here in large part to what you're

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Speaker 1: doing and what your colleagues do, both on TV and radio,

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01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: and that has changed a lot of the way the

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Speaker 1: perception goes and also how media controls. Uh So, I

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01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: think what you're looking at is you're going to see

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Speaker 1: a justice nominated. I think that will be very similar

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Speaker 1: to Justice corsets, and that man or woman will be confirmed.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be an easy process because it's unfortunately

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Speaker 1: it's an ugly process. But the fact is there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a new justice come the first Monday in

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Speaker 1: October before the Supreme Court of the United States. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's what it's gonna be. But a president does

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Speaker 1: have the right to appoint a justice that shares his

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Speaker 1: judicial philosophy. And by the way, everybody should kind of

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Speaker 1: be happy with Donald Trump's judicial philosophy in this sense.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't believe in legislating from the bench. He believes

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Speaker 1: in checks and balances and separation of powers, and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't want The Left has always tried, and I'll throw

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Speaker 1: this to Greg Jarrett. They have tried to achieve things

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Speaker 1: through the courts that they would never achieve through the

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Speaker 1: ballot box because they legislate through the bench, and that

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Speaker 1: is not the role of a judge. No. And the

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Speaker 1: perfect example is that the travel ban. The Ninth Circuit,

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Speaker 1: the so called nine, is composed largely of of liberal

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Speaker 1: justices who view the Constitution as they did. The travel

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Speaker 1: ban incorrectly. They view it in a very elastic sense,

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Speaker 1: a present day sense. It can mean whatever they wanted

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Speaker 1: to mean at any given time, on any given day,

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Speaker 1: for any given issue. And people like Scalia and other

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Speaker 1: reliable conservatives view it narrowly strict constructionalists or or originalists,

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Speaker 1: and we will interpret it according to how it was

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Speaker 1: written and what it meant at the time. And that's

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Speaker 1: important because I think it was David Shon mentioned a

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Speaker 1: moment ago. You know, if you want to uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: change the constitutional principle, there's a way to do it.

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Speaker 1: It's called amend the constitution or enact a new uh

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Speaker 1: amendment to the constitution. So let me give the way

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Speaker 1: you do it. That's and that's the for example, the

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Speaker 1: Convention of States. Which way you support? Convention of States

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Speaker 1: dot com. That's in the constitution. It is all right,

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Speaker 1: let's get final thoughts, David Shone, where is this going

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Speaker 1: to go? How soon will the president makes announcement? I

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Speaker 1: think the president needs to make an announcement very soon.

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Speaker 1: I think again, this country needs stability in every realm.

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01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking for someone straight, fair and honest. I tell

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Speaker 1: you this. You appointed someone to the eleven Circuit this term.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Newsom, I wrote a letter for him. He's maybe

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01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: as right wing as they come, but my experience with

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Speaker 1: him was that he was fair, honest and called it straight.

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Speaker 1: I may not win my civil rights cases with them,

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Speaker 1: but I want a guy who's going to call it

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Speaker 1: straight on the constitution. Newsom is a good pick. He

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Speaker 1: was born in nineteen seventy two. He's young enough. He

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01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 1: could be there a long time. Uh last word, let

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Speaker 1: me go to j secular. Well, look, I think it'll happen.

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01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: I think in short order that but there's a process.

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01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: The term of the Supreme Court is over, doesn't mean

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01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 1: the works over, but it does slow up. In the summer,

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01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: the justices are not meaning they do not come back

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01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 1: for a major conference until wait before that first Monday

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Speaker 1: in October when they have the main conference on petitions.

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Speaker 1: So that is quick request for a review. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to have a case up there again that'll be seeking reviews.

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Speaker 1: So there's time. But it needs to move swiftly and expeditions,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what you're gonna see. Sean. All right,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you all for being one of us.

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Speaker 1: Great analysis by all of you three very smart attorneys,

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01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: and I actually think all three of you can would

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Speaker 1: be qualified to be on the Supreme Court because you're

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01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: all You're all lawyers that I would hire. Uh and

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Speaker 1: in the case of Jay Secular, actually have at one point.

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Speaker 1: Jay Secular, Thank you, Greg, Jared, great to see you,

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Speaker 1: looking forward to the book coming out in July. And

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Speaker 1: David Shone, as always, we appreciate your input. All right, Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: Tonight nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel. There is

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Speaker 1: a Supreme Court vacancy. The President speaks tonight, Jay Sekulo,

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01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: Leonard Leo, also Peter strucoes before Congress. Jim Jordan was

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Speaker 1: in the room. He will give us his take as

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Speaker 1: well as Greg Jarrett. Sarah Carter is going to join

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Speaker 1: us as well, Jesse and Jessica and Sebastian Gorka. Hannity

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Speaker 1: Big Show Tonight, breaking news, a vacancy at the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Buckle up, the barking of somebody as soon. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you tonight at nine. Back here tomorrow,