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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, January eleventh, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Hold on? Can I read an article real quick before

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I read the whole article real read it a lot.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just want to read the headline because it's

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Speaker 2: we had some wedgies last night. We had two of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in Toronto. It was Cody don't call me Caleb Martin

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Speaker 2: with the three point weg you shout out to our

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Speaker 2: guy devil and giving us a little love saying no

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Speaker 2: dunks on the broadcast. And then this one air ball

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Speaker 2: So that's two more wedgies. We're up to twenty seven

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Speaker 3: Fifty four is the pace. Just happened, Just happens, all right,

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Speaker 3: that makes sense?

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Speaker 2: Love it. Let's play a little what you got?

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Speaker 3: What's it?

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Speaker 1: Good? Hell?

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Speaker 2: What you've got there? That's how we're doing our game

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Speaker 2: recaps on today's show. First one, we had the Heat

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Speaker 2: last night. We saw it live on playback. They went

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Speaker 2: Van Vliet choked about after the game. So I want

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Speaker 1: While we were watching Heat Thunder Live. Couldn't help but

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Speaker 4: I think it's clearly the forty for forty three throws game.

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Speaker 2: Ye have a popular number here today, forty.

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Speaker 1: this game, Kenrich Williams, if you're talking about free throws

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Speaker 1: and this is okay, sees victory. But then old Depot

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Speaker 2: This was a weird game. Yeah, you had the Heat

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Speaker 2: I should say Deadman got ejected after arguing with his

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Speaker 4: Yeah man, Yeah, they hit it really hard. It went

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Speaker 1: I was dangerous.

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Speaker 2: I guess so it was.

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Speaker 1: I watched it eighteen times of replay because it seems

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Speaker 1: That could have been a fan lying on the ground.

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Speaker 1: That thing's got away, like twenty pounds.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you can cut in your bag and

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Speaker 1: Five pounds. Well, people carry a lot.

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Speaker 2: Look if I hit somebody in the back of the

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Speaker 2: he gets tossed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I hope you enjoyed Dwayne Deadman's Miami Heat career.

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Speaker 2: I think it's over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Probably not the kind of guy who can have a

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler trying to fight his coach during last season,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Spolster sorta laughed it off. Maybe a part

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Speaker 2: I think he said no, he think he went too

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Speaker 2: He took it in stride. Here a bunch of crazy guys.

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Speaker 2: He's getting it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, it's a normal Tuesday with the Miami.

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Speaker 3: He really it was.

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Speaker 1: The what happened was and the enjoyable side from the

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Speaker 1: Thunder perspective is that the Heat third and fourth string

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Speaker 1: I thought this was a really aggressive Giddy game. We

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Speaker 1: Giddy had fifteen, a triple double, eighteen, fifteen and ten.

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Speaker 1: Just don't I don't think of him as a guy

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Speaker 1: think part of it was the Heat didn't have their

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Speaker 1: starting two centers there. But overall, a really fun game

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Speaker 1: for this deep, deep Thunder team and they should have

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Speaker 1: I was watching. It's just you can just load up

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Speaker 1: on Jimmy with Yeah, no, that's a huge part of it.

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Speaker 1: But even still even still watching them against the Nets

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Speaker 1: on Friday, when Victor Oladipo came through off the bench,

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Speaker 1: came through in this one as well. They just play

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Speaker 1: a lot of io ball, but they do have ISO guys.

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Speaker 1: If Oladipo and Hero can do it nice.

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Speaker 2: Passed from Oladipo inside there to Jimmy at the end,

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Speaker 2: I little bounce pass like through some traffic and then Jimmy, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean poor Jalen Williams, the rook He gets a

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Speaker 2: lot of guys, Jimmy Butler on that pump fake. He

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Speaker 2: does it almost all the time in a clutch situation

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Speaker 2: We were like a bunch of Lee Ellis's last night,

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Speaker 2: pumped about a free throw to set the record and

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Speaker 2: win the game down the stretch there.

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Speaker 3: That was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Entertain.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy dragged him to the win. He'll get some local votes.

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Speaker 4: I do believe for MVP when the time comes. Because

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Speaker 4: the Thunder built a lead in this one and then

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Speaker 4: it was an instant eleven to two run when Butler

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Speaker 4: checked back in a six to zero run to win

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 3: Really a game of runs out there.

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Speaker 2: You had called that on our playback watch. You got

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Speaker 2: to come join us, Tray Kirby said, I mean I

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Speaker 2: didn't cover, so we lost. When we get to our

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Speaker 2: picking results, but yeah, they were down, and you said,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going, me and my buddy Jared, and we're going.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys gonna make one? Because these battle bots

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Speaker 2: Are we gonna make a battle But sure, Oh no,

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Speaker 2: we're not that smart.

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Speaker 1: Jared went to Georgia. He did make a butt. Jared,

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Speaker 2: Like a like an NBA themed battle butt. Because they

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Speaker 2: all got their things right, summer spinners, summer flippers, some

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Speaker 4: You can make one that's NBA theme that shoots fire,

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Speaker 4: I think right like he's on fire NBA Jamo bot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are ones that like just straight up pin ones,

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Speaker 1: That's good, all right, give him a little voice whire.

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Speaker 3: Uncle Dennis would kicking some money to to you know,

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Speaker 2: These aren't cheap, these bots, man.

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Speaker 1: I think you could put a little voice box in it.

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Speaker 1: As soon as you win, you win, you throw up

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Speaker 3: Well, he's a fun guy, fun butt.

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Speaker 2: I was happy just to bring it back to the

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Speaker 2: Jeff Hornyseck all right, Richard Dumoth Final one. Three other games,

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Speaker 2: popped off for forty six points. Wasn't enough. Cavs fell

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Speaker 2: to that game, Franz Vagner scored twenty nine magic beat

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Speaker 2: Sixers destroyed Detroit one forty seven to one sixteen. Just

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Speaker 1: Were sorry? I got to asktra We were giggling about

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Speaker 4: I love the quote from Embiid where he said we

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Speaker 2: That they did they did? Was that the most impressive?

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Speaker 2: Who then it is, I'm only playing three quarters to make.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the most impressive was the Cavs Jazz scenario. Everybody

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Speaker 2: He goes up for a three point shot. He nails it,

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Speaker 2: and Clarkson like he gets under him a little bit.

438
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: Now I think you could argue, did Clarkson jump a

439
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 2: little forward? Did Lavert really slide under him? But they

440
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Speaker 2: go look at it and they ruled it a flagrant one.

441
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 2: They say that's recklessness there and that's the definition of it.

442
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 2: And so yeah, that's a flagrant shot. That's a foul shot.

443
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 2: So Clarkson max at four. That's four points there and

444
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,439
Speaker 2: you get to keep the ball, keep possession. And what happens,

445
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 2: Karro Slivert fowls Clarkson again on a three point time. Now,

446
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: he didn't hit that one, but he went to line

447
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 2: hit all three. That's a seven point possession. They were

448
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 2: up five ninety seconds ago and suddenly they are down

449
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 2: to with like seventy seconds ago and still had a

450
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Speaker 2: chance and all that, but like, whoa yeah, and that

451
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Speaker 2: first one, man, I don't know, I mean, sure, maybe

452
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Speaker 2: a foul, but wow, I was a little shocked to

453
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Speaker 2: call it a flagrant one after looking at it. I

454
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Speaker 2: didn't think he went way under him, and again I

455
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Speaker 2: think Clarkson jumped a little ahead.

456
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Speaker 1: But anyway, not as shocking as that as that call

457
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Speaker 1: in the corner on Miami on Cain who was quote

458
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Speaker 1: unquote under the thunder player and got a flagrant on.

459
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Speaker 2: College Williams at the end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that weird, weird stuff on that one.

461
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 1: A guy who isn't guarding the guy goes under him,

462
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Speaker 1: but he didn't.

463
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Speaker 2: Back to him.

464
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Speaker 1: So really where Jordan Clarkson though obviously it came through.

465
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And it was a little surprising because he

466
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: missed a big free throw earlier on and he just

467
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: started chucking threes at the end. Loarry Marketing having an

468
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 1: off game, I thought Evan Mobley did a really good

469
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: job filling in for Jared Allen at the five spot

470
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter defensively, but they couldn't grab some

471
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Speaker 1: of those boards. That really hurt. And Jordan Clarkson. Even

472
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 1: though the Utah Jazz are advertising lowry market in and

473
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Speaker 1: only lowry marketing only as they're All Star, they're promoting

474
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Speaker 1: lowry marketing and getting Clarkson that heck out.

475
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Speaker 2: That's the move, though, that's the move.

476
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: It's smart and they're doing it a ton.

477
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Speaker 3: Coming back from break, you.

478
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: See the ad, the image come up the finisher, get

479
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: him into the All Star game, and just an image

480
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: of lowry marketing. Then when the Jazz are at the

481
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Speaker 1: foul line again, this image pops up from the score bug,

482
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Speaker 1: this image of lowry market and here he is. Vote

483
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Speaker 1: him now, just lowry market and don't worry about Jordan Clarkson.

484
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: And they've got him up right tray. They've got him

485
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Speaker 1: into He.

486
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Speaker 3: Was seventh, I think he was seven. First returns they're doing.

487
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Speaker 2: Returns come out tomorrow, yep sell that graphic work is doing.

488
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Speaker 1: For that votes best of the week. I think that's smart.

489
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Speaker 1: Don't split your vote. You see the Suns they're splitting

490
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Speaker 1: it between Bridges eight and Paul and Booker. What are

491
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: you doing and try and please all their yet Yeah, exactly,

492
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: Well that's what all teams do. And you think they've

493
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Speaker 1: throwed Clarkson out there.

494
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Speaker 2: He's having a decent he doesn't have a chance of

495
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Speaker 2: making it.

496
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Speaker 1: He's got double the stats of Chris Paul this season.

497
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Speaker 1: Chris PAULI making the All Star Why no, but he's

498
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Speaker 1: ontographic anyway.

499
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Speaker 4: Anyway, they do say, vote Lowry into the All Star

500
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Speaker 4: Game and any other Jazz you might want to see.

501
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,719
Speaker 3: Toss of a vote, throw a vote to Walker Kessler.

502
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: Please let him sleep in your bed.

503
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,479
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy the did you enjoy the Donovan Mitchell?

504
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,239
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy the Donovan Mitchell? You know homecoming here

505
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Speaker 2: in the video package and how he was received?

506
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Speaker 1: Yea, I thought it was uh yeah. I think that

507
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 1: that the arena was ready to number one, cheer for him,

508
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: but also cheer for their team, and they willed him.

509
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: I think to the victory, the way they were getting

510
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: on the offensive class fifteen offensive boards. That was a

511
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: good Jazz home crowd. They always have a good home crowd.

512
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: But they were ready and not a lot of boost,

513
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: which was the right thing to do. They got that,

514
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: they got it done.

515
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Speaker 3: I'll say this.

516
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: Though, forty six for Mitchell last night, Tons of love,

517
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Speaker 4: get your bets end now for Donovan Mitchell to win

518
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 4: All Star MVP.

519
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Speaker 3: OO back in Utah.

520
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 4: Oh, he said he felt comfortable like he'd been playing

521
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 4: there for the past five seasons. He looks comfortable and

522
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 4: it looked like, honestly looked like the Calves had the win.

523
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 4: They went on eleven ozer run in the middle of

524
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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter up by seven.

525
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Speaker 3: That looked like it was it. But Karris LeVert had

526
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Speaker 3: different opinions on this one.

527
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Speaker 1: You said, have Walker Kessler sleep in your bed? Will

528
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Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell be sleeping in his own bed? Like maybe

529
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Speaker 1: he still has a house in Utah when he goes

530
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Speaker 1: back for the All Star Game. I don't know if

531
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Speaker 1: he does, but could that could be an extra comfort level.

532
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Speaker 3: He's sleeping in his own bed on the road.

533
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Speaker 2: Not a bad pick there for an all start. You

534
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: could at least see him, like in the first five

535
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: minutes of the game giving it a shot. You know

536
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: what I mean, Fire up a dunches three, It'll probably

537
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: be starting, so I could see him like trying for it.

538
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to pick a guy as well that

539
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: has never won one.

540
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, that's true. He definitely doesn't have one. He's

541
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: played in a lot of games, I guess at this point.

542
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: As for the Blazers, just like I don't I don't

543
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 2: want to really talk about them all that much. They're

544
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: in a funk and like they're losing a lot of

545
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: games here after a really strong start to the season. Incredibly,

546
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 2: they're losing it because of their offense, not as much

547
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 2: as their defense, which hasn't been that bad, but having

548
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: all these opportunities at the end. I don't know if

549
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: you saw the clip or watch the end of this

550
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: game where they had three chances to just knock down

551
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: a three and the Magic pull it off. I mean,

552
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 2: Magic built up a big lead and Blazers got back

553
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: into it and built another lead and stuff like that.

554
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: But Foctor with twenty nine and Wendew Carter with twenty

555
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: and ten, Magic Man scrapy a little bunch down there

556
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: in Orlando, and they're all they're playing really good basketball

557
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: right now. Sixteen and twenty six. They've improved to which is,

558
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: you know, five or six games better than the bottom

559
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 2: teams some.

560
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: Point, wrecking up some wins right now, Franz fifteen points

561
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. Meanwhile, Portland went over nine from three,

562
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 4: including missing a ton right there at the end. Franz

563
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 4: has a deep bag with regards to finishing. This guy's

564
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: got every single shot inside the lane, a floater, a scoop,

565
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: a hook.

566
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 3: It's weird.

567
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Speaker 4: I don't feel like he has crazy moves on the perimeter,

568
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 4: but once he gets into the lane, it's like tricky

569
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: finish after tricky finish?

570
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: Are the magic trying to get us to vote for Franz,

571
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Wagner and Polo and.

572
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Speaker 3: Any other magic, David, I'm not sure.

573
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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. Probably that's not gonna happen. But Franz, Yeah,

574
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: we talked about the biggest sophomore jump. It's probably him.

575
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

576
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: And just in terms of strictly gotten better to go

577
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: along with Bancaro and Wendell Carter Junior. We never talk about.

578
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: He's been injured most of the season, but he's clearly

579
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: their best center, even though they have a billion centers.

580
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: They have Bull Bull, they have Mobamba, they have the

581
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: other Wagner, but he had Mo Wagner. But Wendell Carter

582
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: Junior came along with Franz Wagner essentially the draft pick

583
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: from the Bulls for a vouch they got a big

584
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: front court. I heard her. I heard her man Mark

585
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: Schindler on the Daily Dimes today say in two years

586
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: it's going to be the best front court in the NBA.

587
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Those three, Wow, that's you know, it's possible. It's a

588
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: great player in Black Arrow getting great and Franz Wagner

589
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: and very very solid Wendell Carter Junior when he plays.

590
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: Also speaking of big guys on the Magic, forward Jonathan Isaac,

591
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: who hasn't played in two seasons. He hasn't played. His

592
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: last NBA regular season game was like eight and ninety

593
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: two days a lot. Anyway, He's set to play for

594
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: the G League Lakeland Magic as he's continuing to come

595
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: back from that torn ACL so he's been practicing with

596
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: Orlando for a while now here. At some point, we're

597
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: gonna see Jonathan and Isaac on the Magic. I think

598
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: gets those Gillie reps in and they get them up there.

599
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: Good win there from Orlando, bad loss from the Blazers

600
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: who are struggling right now. Let's take a first break

601
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: when we come back. Trade rumors all right, Back in

602
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: the Classic factory. Let's get to some trade rumors. A

603
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: couple of rumors.

604
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: Guys.

605
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: The Hawks have been rumored to be looking to trade

606
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: John Collins since before time. One team that is said

607
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: to be interested in John Collins is the Nets. Now

608
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: one East executive shared with heavy Sports the frameworks of

609
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: a hypothetical deal. Here, the Nets could build a package

610
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: around Joe Harris to make the money match, throwing a

611
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 2: Royce O'Neil and a Cam Thomas and possibly some draft capital,

612
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: so some one two first round picks potentially in the

613
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: future for John Collins. Again, this is coming by way

614
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: of Heavy Sports. Any thoughts on any thoughts on the

615
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: Nets actually being interested in trying to get a guy

616
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: like John Collins.

617
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: I can see the idea you can upgrade your talent

618
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: in the front court with John Collins trading a lot

619
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: of parts and a lot of first round picks. This

620
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: is an expensive John Collins package. I think overall this

621
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: is a good amount for a guy who's a very,

622
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: very good player twenty and ten a few years ago.

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00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: I can see what they're doing. I don't think it's

624
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: the right thing to do, though, I think they're giving

625
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: up some of their chemistry Royce O'Neil has been really good,

626
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: very good on the perimeter for them hitting threes. Playing defense.

627
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: You're going for John Collins, who will work hard and

628
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: be a really good player offensively, but you're giving something

629
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: up defensively, I think size wise. I think what they

630
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: should be going for is somebody who if Nick Lason

631
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: gets in foul trouble, like at Larry Nance or somebody

632
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: like that, like somebody somebody Larry Nance is not available,

633
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: but a big to back up Nick Clackson Number one,

634
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: number two. It's cost too much in your and you're

635
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: messing up your defensive perimeter defense for your interior defense.

636
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: And we don't know how John Collins is going to

637
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: play as a third guy on this team. We've seen

638
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: with the Atlanta sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It

639
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: hasn't this year. Obviously. He's not an incredible three point

640
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: shooter like Royce O'Neil is. And I'm focusing on Royce O'Neil, like,

641
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, making it seem like he's a great player.

642
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: But the chemistry is so good right now, I think

643
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: you'd be messing with it for a lot. You'd be

644
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 1: giving up a decent amount for again, a talented guy

645
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: who's gonna work defensively. He's gonna try hard as we've

646
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: seen him in the playoffs, but he lacks size. I

647
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: think other teams will be saying, all right, we're going,

648
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: we're going inside.

649
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: No problem.

650
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: With Nick Claxon's out of the way. They don't have

651
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: a backup center, Ben Simmons as a backup center. I

652
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: think they could probably spend less to help their team

653
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: more somewhere else.

654
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Tika, Yeah, I think this is

655
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: probably Nets.

656
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: Say no, because they still owe a lot of picks

657
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 4: to the Rockets through the twenty twenty seven season. Kind

658
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: of risky to trade even more of your future, like

659
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: two picks for John Collins. With Kevin Durant being injured

660
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 4: right now, it's just a tough spot because it's really

661
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: a question of does Collins push them over the edge?

662
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 4: Is it worth trading away even more of your future

663
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 4: this season? Not knowing exactly how long Kevin Durant's gotta

664
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: stay healthy when he does come back, he's struggled. Collins

665
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: has as the third guy this year. He seems really

666
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: lost where he's gonna be getting his shots. He would

667
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: be going to play with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant,

668
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: who take even more shots than Trey Young and de

669
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 4: Jonte Murray alongside. The Nets definitely need three pointers, they

670
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 4: definitely need rebounding. Collins helps with those, but I don't

671
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: think he solves either of those problems for them. So

672
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: it feels like they would be giving up a ton

673
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: to get a guy who would help a little, but

674
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: maybe not everything they need.

675
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Collins is having an absolute abysmal season. I mean,

676
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: he's shooting under fifty percent from the floor as a

677
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: big guy. That's sworry some thirteen points per game, But

678
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: is that just because he's been to trade rumors for

679
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: like three years running and he's over this shit in

680
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: Atlanta and he wants to be traded and he's not

681
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: putting in full effort and maybe he is not driving

682
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: all that well with the coaching staff or the players

683
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: or whatever. I mean, this guy was averaging like twenty

684
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: two points per game a couple year seasons ago and

685
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: can help a team. This would be the Nets going.

686
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: There's an opening to win title right now, and we

687
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: think Collins as our third slash fourth best player. With

688
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: just giving up Joe Harris's contract and yeah, Royce O'Neill,

689
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: but not much else. You know, if you don't care

690
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: about the picks because you want to win right now,

691
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: that's them saying this, and you know, I could understand it.

692
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: He helps some things that they're they're lacking in, but

693
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: probably probably not not this much. And also within this

694
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: article there are reports that the Hawks like they this

695
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: came up. Shaums talked about this a while ago that

696
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: like the Hawks were like, well, we want Ben Simmons

697
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: for a potential like John Collins trade going back to Brooklyn.

698
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: They're like, well, we're not doing that. And then they've

699
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: also said maybe Atlanta wants like the Donovan Mitchell Rudy

700
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: Gobert trade package, which like, you are no way getting

701
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: three first round picks for John Collins two is probably

702
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: a lot. I mean players I have to come back

703
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: to make the deal work money wise, that makes a

704
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: lot of money. So yeah, this is again from Heavy Sports,

705
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: that hypothetical trade. But let's hear from you guys, there's

706
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: something to it. Do you think the Nets should explore this?

707
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: I guess the idea is like, as we get closer

708
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: and closer to the deadline and he's playing like crap,

709
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: and he doesn't probably want to be there anymore. Does

710
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: that the package that the Hawks are asking back for,

711
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: does it just diminish and get lower and lower and

712
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: lower to the point where they're like, okay, fine, we'll

713
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: take this player to make the books work. This maybe

714
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: young player that could help us, and a pick for

715
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: John Collins because we don't want to have to pay

716
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: him one hundred and twenty whatever it is, one hundred

717
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: and twenty five million.

718
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: I mean maybe, I mean, look at it, this trade,

719
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: this specific trade for the Hawks. I say send it

720
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: in a second. Joe Harris would join the rotation immediately,

721
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: Royce O'Neill would join the rotation immediately, maybe Cam Thomas.

722
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 4: And then you're getting a couple of picks back. The

723
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 4: Hawks owe a bunch of picks to the Spurs. This

724
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: is an easy yes trade from the Hawks.

725
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you replannish it, replenished that cupboard that has

726
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: been emptied for sure. And John Collins has not jibed

727
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: with the backcourt. And there's been the you know, the

728
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: report of him not driving with Trey Young a couple

729
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: of years ago in team meetings, but he's never requested

730
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: a trade. And I think that would help the trade

731
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: value come coming back to Atlanta, whatever that is. But

732
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: that's a lot. It's still a lot for a guy

733
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: who it was a twenty ten pities as a number two.

734
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him, to see it again. But

735
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: the Nets need to get bigger, and this doesn't doesn't

736
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: really help that.

737
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: You well, I mean these other guys.

738
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: Royce is a fierce perimeter defender, and so they'd be

739
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: I think they'd be creating another hole on their perimeter.

740
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the Knicks. According to Hoopsype,

741
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: the Knicks are willing to part with Cam Reddish now

742
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: for two second round picks. Okay used to be a

743
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: first round pick. We don't play him at all, never

744
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: gets off the bench. He was the tenth overall pick. Though,

745
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: we'll take two second round picks for him. According to Hoopsype,

746
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: the Laker Bucks, Lakers Bucks, other teams have inquired about him,

747
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: and then another Knicks player whose name is circulated the

748
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: rumor mill here somewhat recently, Emmanuel Quickly, the Bucks again,

749
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: the MAVs, Wizards, others. Teams have inquired, Hey, what can

750
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: we get quickly for? I think the report was the

751
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: Knicks one in the first round pick for him. Maybe

752
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: that's even changed though now after RJ. Barrett was out

753
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: and quickly is like putting up some big numbers for

754
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: New York. Thoughts on either of these guys being moved

755
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: where you think they could slot in nicely? What do

756
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 2: you think about this report with the Knicks here in

757
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 2: Reddish and Quickly?

758
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: What happened to those twenty one Hawks that went to

759
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: the conference final? Sam cam Raddish played some games, he

760
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: played well, he shot sixty four percent from three. It

761
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: was only four games, but he was hot. And John

762
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: Collins obviously part of that team. This team seems to

763
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: be crumbling. It's unfortunate what happened. John Collins is going

764
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: to excel somewhere else, Cam Reddish. Now with the Knicks

765
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: getting another opportunity not in the rotation, I might be

766
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: I might be willing to give up on him, I guess.

767
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: But it's worth a fly for two second round picks

768
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: if you're another team. But it makes sense that the

769
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: price is going down. First round pick is what was

770
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: he garnered last year. This year and as we get

771
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: closer to the trade deadline, the price will go down

772
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: for all these guys. Just starting. We'll start with there

773
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: with Camera Reddish. I know, I know, you guys aren't

774
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: camera reridish lovers. No, I get it.

775
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: But the Knicks have a ton of excuse me, the

776
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: Lakers have a ton of second round picks. Why not

777
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: throw a guy like Cam Reddish on their team. I mean,

778
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: they could throw them in there. You could get some

779
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: minutes that some time, especially with injuries if they really

780
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: ugly head So yeah, if that's all it takes. They

781
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: got tons of second round picks, but it's not gonna

782
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: take a lot to get Cameradge doesn't even play for

783
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: the Nicks. Yeah, he doesn't play defense, and that's a

784
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: big part. White Tips doesn't want him out there.

785
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: Probably one second round pick.

786
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: We'll get it done at the trade deadline if anybody

787
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: wants to take a risk, And the Lakers are the

788
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: kind of team that should take a risk because athletic

789
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 4: guys tend to look good next to Lebron.

790
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 3: Just run the court.

791
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: He'll pass it to you.

792
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: Westbrook will too, So maybe that's the kind of team

793
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: that does it. But needle moving it ain't Cam Braddish.

794
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 4: If I'm the Knicks, though, I don't trade Emmanuel quickly,

795
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 4: unless he's in a package for a star. Because Tim's

796
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: is playing him now suddenly quickly, is playing forty minutes

797
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: a game. It's a nice fast, slow combo with him

798
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: and Jalen Junson. They're plus nine points per pose per

799
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: one hundred possessions when they're on the court together. The

800
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 4: Knicks have three extra first rounders and an extra first

801
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 4: round pick in twenty twenty five, so it's not like

802
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: they're trying to recoup anything. I'd hang on to quickly

803
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: and keep playing him. He's decent when he actually plays.

804
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: He's competing on defense right now, and he gives the

805
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: Knicks a little athleticism, which is something they're generally lacking.

806
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: I would say totally, why trade him. I think he's

807
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: even a little undervalued defensively. I think he can be

808
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: on the court in late game situations. I don't think

809
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: he's just the sixth man when it comes down to it.

810
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: He's really solid. I think both these Nets and Knicks

811
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: chemistry scenarios. They got going on, the chemistry in both

812
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: their locker rooms. Why mess with it? I don't really

813
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: get it. I hear what you're saying with John Collins.

814
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: Maybe they're going for it, But this is unlikely for

815
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: the Knicks to be able to garner anything back that

816
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: would help them go for it. Doesn't make sense. Why

817
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: trade quickly? Maybe it's just this Nick's gotta be in

818
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: the rumor mill, so that's why we're hearing these guys

819
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: Ritish makes way more sense.

820
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: Mark Stein says the Dallas Mavericks have made Tim Hardaway

821
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: Junior available, and according to Chris Fadoor, the Cavaliers might

822
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: be interested in him. Tim Hardaway Junior the gunner, the

823
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: man who will score fifty in a game before it's

824
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: all said and done. Mark, my word is available. Is

825
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: this surprising to you to hear this report from sign

826
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: who's pretty plugged in when it comes to Dallas Mountain?

827
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's a little surprising, just because the

828
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: MAVs are fourteen to nine with Tim Hardaway Junior in

829
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: the starting lineup for Reggie Bullock. But I guess Kris Lavert,

830
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: oddly enough, is the player who may be availab for

831
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: the MAVs going back the other way. Tim Hardaway Junior

832
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: is older, his contract last two extra years. It runs

833
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: through twenty twenty five. But the good thing about Tim

834
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 4: Hardaway Junior. That's different from Karris Livert. They shoot about

835
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 4: the same percentage, but Tim Hardaway Junior is a straight

836
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: up chucker. If he touches the ball outside the three

837
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: point line, he is shooting it, and that's kind of

838
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: a must have when you're playing alongside Luka Doncic. I

839
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 4: feel like Karris Lavert gets a little dribble happy from

840
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: time to time, really pounds it, and the MAVs already

841
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 4: have a guy like that and Spencer Dinwiddie comparable players.

842
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: I guess the good thing about LeVert is that his.

843
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: Contract is done at the end of the season, which

844
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: gives the Mavericks a chance to just mix things up.

845
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: They've had basically the same team, it feels like for

846
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 4: the past five seasons. Brunting out wood In is the

847
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 4: real changes. But it just feels like they need to

848
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 4: have some flexibility going forward, So maybe that's why they

849
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: would be interested.

850
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, as far as from the Cavs perspective, I understand

851
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: why they give up on Karroslivert. They probably don't want

852
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: to sign him long term when they've got four other

853
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: guys who are basically potential All Stars that they got

854
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: to pay Carosilvert's contract comes up, it makes sense that

855
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: they'd want to get rid of him. Trey brought up

856
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: a good point about Tim Hardaway. You gotta love Tim

857
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: Hardaway if you're trading for him, because he's got a

858
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: couple more years and he makes sense on a team

859
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: that has a couple creators. The Lakers will come up

860
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: every single time. But yeah, Tim Hardaway, touch and go,

861
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: he will release it, he'll he'll let it fly. While

862
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: the MAVs they need a talent upgrade. But I don't

863
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: think I get that the carosel Vert potential for playing

864
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: him beside Luca. But I agree this Tim Hardway just

865
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: makes sense right now, so it doesn't really make sense.

866
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: I don't think to deal him.

867
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: The good thing about Tim Hardaway Junior's contract is it

868
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: is declining. It's one of those ones, so it's actually

869
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: gonna get less and less. He's about nineteen mil, nineteen

870
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: and a half mill this season, and then it goes

871
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 2: down to under eighteen million, and then then the final

872
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: year sixteen million. But that is a couple years there

873
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: that you're gonna be locked into that money. Yeah, talked

874
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: before about the Cavs wanting to upgrade though that that

875
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: wing position. Is it another shooter? Should it be another

876
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: defensive minded guy to try and slow your jail in

877
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: browns and your tatans and stuff like that, Like, that's

878
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: not Tim Hardaway Junior. No, this guy guns, and he

879
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: can catch fire, and he can change a game because

880
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: of a shooting. But he will give some back on

881
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: the other end. So I think this is pretty unlikely.

882
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 2: But I get the reasoning from really both sides of

883
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: the Cavs wanting to upgrade that wing position, and the

884
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: MAVs may be like, yeah, shake it up, and shake

885
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 2: it up, get maybe another playmaker in there or someone

886
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: that can play a little defense or something like that

887
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: in possibly moving a guy like Tim Hardaway Junior. All right,

888
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: Final one here from bleacher Report. The Pistons and the

889
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: Rockets are expected to be sellers at the deadline, but

890
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: both are apparently asking for too much for players like

891
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: Bogdanovic and Eric Gordon. Quote they both want first round

892
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: picks for guys over thirty one source set of the

893
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: Pistons and Rockets. They may be willing to wait until

894
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: the summer since both Bogdanovic and Gordon are under contract.

895
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: The real question is are either of these guys to

896
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: the right team worth the first round pick in the

897
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: next month? Here, what do you think?

898
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 4: I think Bogdanovic is more likely worth a first round

899
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 4: pick because he's got two years on his contract after

900
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: this runs through the twenty twenty five season. Eric Gordon's

901
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: got a twenty million dollar team option for next year.

902
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 4: If he was going to be traded for a first

903
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: round pick, much like John Collins, I do believe it

904
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: would have already happened because both these guys are going

905
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: to be thirty four when the playoffs start. Gordon has

906
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: been in trade rumors forever and he's obviously pretty unhappy

907
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: right now in Houston.

908
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: He wants to get out of there.

909
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: But if they didn't get a first round pick for

910
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 4: him the previous three deadlines, probably not happening this season.

911
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: Bogdanovic though, maybe so because you at least get to

912
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 4: keep him more so than a rental.

913
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: This is Raphael Stone doing his job, waiting it out.

914
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: I think he's got the Raphael Stones to wait out

915
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: and for another four weeks to say, give us a

916
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: first round pick, and yeah, it depends on the other team.

917
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: What kind of how many picks they have? Like the

918
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: the Phoenix suense. Do they value them extremely highly? Boya Bogdanovic.

919
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: Do it.

920
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: They could use a guy who lets it go a

921
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: bench score and their windows. Now, I know they do

922
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: have obviously young core with eight in Bridges and Booker,

923
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: but I think they want an upgrade. So if it's

924
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: a protected first round pick for boy and Bogdanovich to

925
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: be on the Sun's roster, that's a weapon in the postseason.

926
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: He could close games, he could guard perimeter players. It's

927
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: not much of a defensive downgrade at all, So yeah,

928
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: he would be the guy over.

929
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: You think it's much more likely Bugdanovich could get a

930
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: first round pick late in the first round, like you said,

931
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: protected of some sort where Eric Gordon, despite Stone doing

932
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: the right thing and sitting on it and waiting on it,

933
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: he's not going to get that, right. I mean, there

934
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: would have to be a very desperate team to throw

935
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: a first round pick at.

936
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: Eric Gordon at this point to rent Eric Gordon.

937
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: Right right, good point. Yeah, I don't think that's happening.

938
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: But you'd like to see Aim moved at this point too,

939
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: like even less so Bugdanovitch, Like I'm not even upset

940
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: with him. Saying with Detroit, if that's the case in

941
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: the path they take to play with their young guys

942
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: even next year and stuff like that, and then maybe

943
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: move them. But Eric Gordon, like we saw the quote,

944
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: we saw the clip, like he's like, ain't nobody developing here,

945
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: ain't nobody getting better? Like I'm tired of watching jail

946
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: and Green chuck away and like this ain't no fun

947
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: for me, Like, give me the hell out of here.

948
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 4: Made me wonder is there beef between Austin Rivers and

949
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 4: Eric Gordon, Because Austin Rivers just had a quote where

950
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: he's basically like all the Rockets really need is a

951
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 4: veteran guard who can teach these guys how to play

952
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 4: basketball and score.

953
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: That's Eric Gordon.

954
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Eric Gordon, and he's the one complaining about

955
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: everything in Houston. They do need vets and they might

956
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 4: be trying to trade their one vet.

957
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 2: Where did Austin River say this on his new podcast?

958
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: I saw he has a podcast.

959
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: I just saw it in the Minneapolis newspaper.

960
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: Guest star. I mean, I think Austin Rivers has a

961
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: new podcast. I'm pretty sure I heard an ad for

962
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: it on another NBA podcast. Might be called off guard,

963
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: could be called go off with Austin Rivers.

964
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: Go off all right? Right?

965
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: Close?

966
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: Uh?

967
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 4: A veteran NBA guard, Austin Rivers and his conversational skills

968
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 4: reveal a side of him you've never known.

969
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 3: Cool.

970
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: Check it out. Austin River is gonna be talking shit

971
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: about Eric gar podcast or maybe he's already do a podcast.

972
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

973
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's hear from everybody on those trade Rivers,

974
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: anything else I miss that you wanted to throw in there.

975
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about the Raptors already and what

976
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: they're gonna do, or are they gonna move Gary Trent Junior,

977
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: they gonna move anyone else? So there's that they saved

978
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: their season last night with a win, so they're good now,

979
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: thanks for the Hornets? Yeah, anyone else? Or just wait

980
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: and see here? Like I don't know. I'm like, I

981
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: keep going back and forth between We're gonna get a

982
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: very exciting trade deadline because there's enough teams that you

983
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: could convince yourself like, hey, there's an opening, let's make

984
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: a move, Like, let's go for it in terms of

985
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: getting player X whatever to help us. And then I

986
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: think the opposite, Like they're all like, well, we're all

987
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: the same. Why give up draft capital or something like

988
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: that if it's not really going to change our outcome

989
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: that much.

990
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm going back and forth right

991
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: and the asking price is so high right now?

992
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, because of what happened with Gobert and

993
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: to all us extent Mitchell because he's sort of proven

994
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: to be a superstar. But the Gobert thing really screwed

995
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: everything up. Yeah, but I mean Gobert and Mitchell are

996
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: all NBA players.

997
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 4: We're talking about og John Collins, not even all star players,

998
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: and they're asking for I saw somebody in the stream

999
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 4: team say that boy and Bogdanovic could be worth two

1000
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: first round picks. This is insanity. It's posturing season right now.

1001
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 4: Next week, all of these extension guys become eligible for trades.

1002
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 4: We've still got a little bit of time to see

1003
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: which teams are going to end up being sellers here, Like,

1004
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 4: we haven't had enough Washington Wizards rumors for my liking,

1005
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: because they're a team. They're down in twelfth in the

1006
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference right now. Kuzma is going to be a

1007
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 4: free agent in the summer.

1008
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: He will.

1009
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 4: He ain't gonna stick around in Washington. He should be traded.

1010
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: Ruy Hachimura got a chance to be traded. Even Porzinis

1011
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: I think is in the mix. And who knows if

1012
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 4: Bradley bial Ever waives his no trade clause or something

1013
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 4: like that. I just think that's a team we're gonna

1014
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 4: hear a little bit more about, maybe the Blazers as well,

1015
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: maybe the Jazz as well, since they hit a little

1016
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: bit of a cold patch here, give it a couple

1017
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: of more weeks. We'll see these stinker teams stinking it up.

1018
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: I think teams have done a better job of keeping

1019
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: things close to the best too. We've been surprised by

1020
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: trades the last couple of years, right. We were surprised

1021
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: when Donovan Mitchell was traded, even though he'd been in

1022
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: rumors for a while. I just think that the teams

1023
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: we don't hear about, like the Wizards, they'll make some deals.

1024
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: Will Burt happened, Will Barton could? I think he's an

1025
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: expiring contract too. You could see him. I mean, if

1026
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: they don't think he's going to be signing with them

1027
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: long term, that's like a guy that's like, that's a

1028
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: class trade. Oh yeah, you can win us a quarter

1029
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: in a playoffs, very sure.

1030
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: Get Will Burton, can't get Alec Burks.

1031
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: Get you a Will bar Oh, Alec Burks.

1032
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: That's the second guy, Terrence across him Ross. Get you

1033
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: a Gary Harris. He's always available.

1034
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's four weeks right now. It's probably it's like

1035
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: the Galaxy brain meme. It's like, we want three draft picks,

1036
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: three first round draft picks. Next image too, first round

1037
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: draft picks, one first round draft pick, and then when

1038
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: it comes to the actual trade deadline, take it now.

1039
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: We'll give you a to Yeah, so the price will

1040
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: go down.

1041
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from everybody in the stream team

1042
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: any other trade rumors you want us to tackle this week.

1043
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: Let us know. We'll take our final break when we

1044
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: come back, pick the results and tweet of the night.

1045
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: Doing a little research during the break. I was right.

1046
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 2: Austin Rivers has a new ish podcast called off Guard,

1047
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: part of the Ringer Network I think.

1048
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: Allegedly hasn't dropped yet.

1049
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: It looks like Austin's getting his reps in, getting ready

1050
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 4: to drop that big first episode.

1051
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 3: Go Off is the old Austin Rivers.

1052
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: So if you're.

1053
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: Subscribed to that one. You're gonna need to subscribe to

1054
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: this other feed when.

1055
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: It comes out.

1056
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, go Off to off Guard if it comes out. Which, well,

1057
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: which name do you like better for an NBA podcast?

1058
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: Go Off or off Guard?

1059
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: I think I like go Off so much?

1060
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: Why they change it?

1061
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: I wonder different network? Yeah, previous one was unaided and.

1062
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: Own his Master's there learn from us man took us

1063
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: three different spots, Master Taylor Search publisher.

1064
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: He says he's going to do a weekly podcast throughout

1065
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: the season.

1066
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: No he's not. I'll tell you right now.

1067
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: That's unlikely. No, you're not. I agree, that's very unlikely

1068
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: to do a player in season.

1069
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough.

1070
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: There's not a player who does that in season. Draymond doesn't.

1071
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: I just looked it up. He's done three podcasts this season.

1072
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1073
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta do one, one a month if you're

1074
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: a player, JJ Reddick, he can do it.

1075
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: He can do it.

1076
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not no longer playing, of course. Yeah. Yeah,

1077
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 2: you gotta say that, though, task you gotta say once

1078
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: a week. I'm Austin Rivers, I'm I'm I'm the off Guard.

1079
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm one off on my podcast telling you the ins

1080
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: and outs of the NBA, and then he'll do it

1081
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: once and then maybe in four weeks.

1082
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: That's better than saying I'm an off guard. Come listen

1083
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,959
Speaker 1: to me on my podcast, My Off Days.

1084
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: All right.

1085
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: Picking results last night, it was that thunder Heat game,

1086
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: a lot of free throws. Miami didn't hint enough though

1087
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: they needed to win by five or more. Okay, see

1088
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: covers win for task. Nice pick there, Tessy, you're three

1089
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: and four. Trey took an l rare el there. In January,

1090
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: you're five and two and I am star roby two

1091
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 2: and five in the month of January.

1092
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: Big sched tonight, a lot of games on Big Guy.

1093
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: Come in to Atlanta tonight. Yeah, you start to coobo

1094
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: in the Milwaukee Bucks. Only a one and a half

1095
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: point favorite in Atlanta, but that little surprised by that.

1096
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Hawks because that's where I live. Skeets

1097
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: and Trey are taking the Milwaukee Bucks to cover just

1098
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: two and yesterday you said, Skeets, or maybe it's the

1099
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: day before. When there's a fishy line, you take the

1100
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: the anti fish. That's that's smell it.

1101
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean that's what I've been horrible, so

1102
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 2: I'm smelling. I walked into the Classic Factor this morning.

1103
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: I said, it sells like peanut butter in here, and

1104
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: Jady goes, no, my son made an egg. So you

1105
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,959
Speaker 2: can't take my sense right now.

1106
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: Wrong, totally off guard right now.

1107
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: It was an omelet.

1108
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 2: An omelet.

1109
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean you said he made an egg.

1110
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: He made eggs, but the smell change, say he made

1111
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: an egg. Like, I don't know, did you guys anything

1112
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: when you came in. I was in first, so maybe

1113
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: I got all the smell up into my smell like

1114
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: peanut butter. I was like, who something a peanut butter stands?

1115
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 5: There was definitely peanut butter head by somebody this morning.

1116
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 5: Oh so i'mcredible. Yeah, I could smell past the egg.

1117
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and strong and strong.

1118
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: It's like dog likes smell. I do.

1119
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: I consider myself out pretty good.

1120
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: Snow, that's my worst sense personally. I can't smell anything.

1121
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: What's your best send best hearing?

1122
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: Actually I got good hearing, good hearing, feel of course,

1123
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: all right, put anything in my hand. I can tell

1124
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: you what it is.

1125
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh, you could do that. You could do that game

1126
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: where we have the box and you got to put

1127
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: your hands into it and be like.

1128
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 3: Skinless grapes. Love that.

1129
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: All right, that's the Pickham game there, box Hawks.

1130
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure Trey you're going down.

1131
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. I am going to get my I get trimmed

1132
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: up first in the beard zone. Then we go see

1133
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 4: big g that's what you called it?

1134
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: Big Hey. Hey, by the way, the stream team saying

1135
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: Patrick Beverly does a podcast.

1136
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: Once a week, there we go. I didn't.

1137
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: I didn't, you know, confirm that I did in fact

1138
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: check it. But a lot of people are saying, hey,

1139
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: he's got one.

1140
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: I saw he did go on Draymond Green's podcast, I

1141
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: think at the beginning of the season, probably to promote

1142
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: his new podcast weekly. Huh, Bev, Well, that's why you're slacking.

1143
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: On the court.

1144
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: Do you think he's putting too much like time and

1145
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 2: effort into the the Google rundown and getting guests and thumbnails.

1146
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: That's what you gotta do. That's what you got to

1147
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: do as a basketball fan. You see somebody doing something else, like,

1148
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, enjoying their life, you gotta say, get off

1149
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: the mic.

1150
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's his podcast called, Patrick Beverley The.

1151
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: Pat BEV Podcast. Oh, it's a barstool joint.

1152
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, now is he on it every week?

1153
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1154
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 3: All right, it's named after him. It'd be weird otherwise.

1155
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that happens.

1156
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: That's true.

1157
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: He has a somebody by the name of Roan on

1158
00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: the pod every week.

1159
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. He's got a he's got a buddy host,

1160
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: co host, but really probably the host. Right, yeah, just

1161
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 2: come in here, fire the topics like that, Like like

1162
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: Shack's podcast. It's very big, and you know, it's just

1163
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: like Shack shows up and they just, uh, the two

1164
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: the two hosts really just fire a bunch of questions. Though.

1165
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: It's good, it's fun.

1166
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just wanted to make sure that Roan wasn't

1167
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: the sponsor because it keeps the podcast with Roan, is

1168
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: what it says every single time.

1169
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: Really, is that there's rona man or Yeah, we have

1170
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: a product.

1171
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: Roan is bearing gifts once. So yeah, it looks like

1172
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: a real human and not an AI or a sponsor.

1173
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: Tweet of the night, let's do.

1174
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: It, tweet out the night.

1175
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: Wow.

1176
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: I alluded to this earlier when I said we're going

1177
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: to show you where Toronto is on a map, because

1178
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: last night T and T with a wild graphic the

1179
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: rile up the we are the North notable Canadian born

1180
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: NBA players and show it to our guy Sportsnets Faisel

1181
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: tweeting the screen grab of what they showed on the broadcast,

1182
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: showing guys from Montreal and Toronto and Jamal Murray from Kitchener,

1183
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 2: and it is so wild where they're putting these pointing

1184
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: arrows on this map of Canada. It's so far north.

1185
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: It's crazy And I got a lot of Canadians upset

1186
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: and I'm convinced. I said it on our playback last night.

1187
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: I was like, they're doing this just to this is

1188
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 2: a content play from TNT. They can't. I mean, come on,

1189
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: they've been to Canada.

1190
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 3: They have Google.

1191
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: You can easily get an idea where these cities are.

1192
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: It's not that far north anyway, Faisal had the sports

1193
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: Net team and their crew help everybody out here look

1194
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: at that. They took the TNT graphic and plopped it

1195
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: into the actual spot on a map to then point

1196
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: to the real areas of kitchen Er, Toronto and Montreal

1197
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 2: much much more south.

1198
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like confused, very confusing. First, I want to think,

1199
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys who do a lot of the

1200
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: graphics drum JD Tray skeets just in comparison to the

1201
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: TNT and even the sports Net graphic, it's just too busy.

1202
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: There's just too much going on. You guys, simplify it,

1203
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: make it a little simpler. It's a frickin' map. Uh,

1204
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: TNT zoomed up. They wanted They wanted to see a

1205
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: huge body of water.

1206
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: You see Hudson Bay.

1207
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: I love Hudson Bay. You want to go up to Saga,

1208
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: You want to go to Bananas, Well, sorry, it's closed.

1209
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: You can't go up there. They also they have these

1210
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: like these shooting lines. T and T specifically had these

1211
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: these gold shooting lines on the side of the graphic

1212
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: to make it look cool. It's a map. Why are

1213
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: we trying to look cool?

1214
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: That's funny. I just noticed that sports Net put the

1215
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: actual location of TNT's arrows, like what would be in

1216
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: those spots? That is really funny. I did't see that. Yes,

1217
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: shout out to Polar Bear Provincial Park. You're a fan

1218
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 2: of ours up there. We appreciate it.

1219
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just went so far north, they went up

1220
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: to none of it in northern Quebec cities are by

1221
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: the border you.

1222
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: Think that's a lake problem. They just saw the big

1223
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 4: body of water. They're like, that must be a great lake.

1224
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: That's what happened.

1225
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: It's not a content play. They just don't know.

1226
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 5: But I mean, to be fair, I was looking at

1227
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 5: a map and I was like, whoa Utah is there?

1228
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 5: I was like, it was a lot closer. You're getting

1229
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 5: ready for I'm like, we're going out there.

1230
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's see.

1231
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: Where it is on the old Where where'd you think

1232
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: it was?

1233
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 3: Where it is?

1234
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 5: I just thought it was a little to the right.

1235
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 5: That's slightly more right.

1236
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well, and then everybody was pointing out, of

1237
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 2: course the infamous uh Rachel Nichols jump map that had

1238
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: like I think it had Hamilton. Did I have Hamilton

1239
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: in like the Sarnia area or something.

1240
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: It was, well, that's closer, I know, but it's pretty

1241
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: bad to anyway, we're giving these people credit that they

1242
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: don't know where it is. It's a it's a map.

1243
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: You're you're right, I don't understand.

1244
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: Hold on, do you think they're doing it on purpose?

1245
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: They're like, this is this will get them going. Watch this.

1246
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,479
Speaker 2: We're gonna be just six o'clock news in Canada. Watch

1247
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: just put it in the wrong spot. Well, go nuts, these.

1248
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: Are former colleagues.

1249
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the six o'clock.

1250
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: News, six o'clock News with.

1251
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: Williams. No, are Brian Williams not your American one? We

1252
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: got one?

1253
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: No.

1254
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: What happened was they factually correct that Brian Williams the American?

1255
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1256
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: What happened.

1257
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: What happened was they don't care. They do not care

1258
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: where it goes on screen. Yeah, Canadians, Well, the Americans

1259
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: don't care. Of course, they just don't care. If there's

1260
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: danners getting up physically, I see.

1261
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 3: What I can do.

1262
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: You care?

1263
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: I care? I care.

1264
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: Man Lakes belonged to the US as much as they

1265
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: belonged to Canada more so. Okay, whatever, because they've got

1266
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: the name, got Michigan an.

1267
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: That's even. That's pretty even. I thought this was just

1268
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: advertising for the Muskocus.

1269
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 5: Honestly, I think they just thought this looked cooler. Yeah,

1270
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 5: it does look cooler. You're right, there's water more offended

1271
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 5: with we are the North. That's that bothers me. Seeing

1272
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 5: it grammatically correct is just not right.

1273
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: For some reason, What in the geography is this? Oh yeah,

1274
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: fun fun tweet there that was that was given. Yeah,

1275
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: I guess the Rachel Nichols one was Hamilton way at

1276
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: the bottom they had on their map of southeastern Ontario

1277
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: and the Oshawa and all that they had on there.

1278
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least it's that. Yeah Nichols a podcast she's

1279
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: with Steven Jackson and Matt Barnes.

1280
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: I remember she went on it and was pitching to

1281
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 2: her own show or something.

1282
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1283
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: Has that aired.

1284
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 3: It?

1285
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know.

1286
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: It keeps track of all this content shows. All right,

1287
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: that's a fun tweet tonight. Way to wrap this one up.

1288
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: What a wild show. Started with some battle bots, ended

1289
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: with a geography lesson.

1290
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 3: We are back tomorrow.

1291
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: Back tomorrow live at ten am Eastern from the Classic Factory.

1292
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: It's a double header tomorrow for you boys here at

1293
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: No Dunks. We'll have a show recapping tonight's games and

1294
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: big storylines, and then a special podcast later in the

1295
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: day doing once again are tears of all the NBA teams.

1296
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: We did it at the start of the season in

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Speaker 2: the preseason, sort of mapping where we think we put

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Speaker 2: these teams and what tiers. You know, are they final

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Speaker 2: contenders or are they sort of just playing sort of

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Speaker 2: teams and all that, and we're gonna do that again

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Speaker 2: now that we've had half the season, so that'll be

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Speaker 2: fun to compare the two tiers that we have, So

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Speaker 2: we'll do that tomorrow afternoon. You can join us live

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Speaker 2: for that one if you want to make sure you subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Let's get those numbers up to sixty k by All

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Speaker 2: Star weekend. Until then, Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: And remember Canada is a country. Look it up. Look

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Speaker 1: it up, people,