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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of NBA

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Speaker 1: Champions The Trendver Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: Aka I Need to Go.

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Speaker 1: Trend courtesy of super Producer on Josie The NBA Champion TREMBERR.

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Speaker 1: Nuggets courtesy of Paul Garaventa PG. Yeah, I'm Jack, that's Miles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. This is our second crack at it. The first

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Speaker 2: one was two dynamic. We were blowing dynamic. It was

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Speaker 2: it was blowing the microphones out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like uh Jokic energy has taken

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Speaker 1: the Internet by storm. I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 1: people just watched the final game of the Finals and

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Speaker 1: are like, wait, this guy is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Shit. They're like, does this guy give a shit that

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Speaker 2: he just won. It's like, I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: yeah he does, but also he just I guess. Let's

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Speaker 2: just play the operative clip when he's being asked about, Hey,

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Speaker 2: excited for the parade and he's like, what, well parade

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Speaker 2: coming up in Denver Man's parade? When is the pray?

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Speaker 2: When is pray Thursday? No? No, I need to go home. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Han's over his eyes.

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Speaker 1: Worst news we got in that day is that there's

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Speaker 1: going to be a championship parade. He went and fucked

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Speaker 1: everything up and went and won the damn thing, and

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Speaker 1: now he has to go to a damn championship parade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's half performance, are half like sincerely leaning into

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Speaker 2: your feelings and not just doing the media trained thing

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Speaker 2: about being like, yeah, it's going to be great to

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Speaker 2: celebrate with all the fans you know in our town.

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Speaker 2: Or he's just going I gotta go home, man. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he like.

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Speaker 1: There's also a great five second video clip of him

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Speaker 1: celebrating the championship by shaking champagne in the most half

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Speaker 1: hearted way that anybody has ever done that, and then it.

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Speaker 2: Felt contractually obligated. Yes, I think we need to get

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Speaker 2: the champagne. Yeah. I think he's just like, there's just

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Speaker 2: something cool about being so good at something and then

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Speaker 2: outwardly being like and I don't give a fuck, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean? And then I think also his

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Speaker 2: energy is big, like people like just hating their job. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want to everyone connect to that one.

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Speaker 1: The job hating king this guy, but he's just fun.

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Speaker 1: Like one time, I think we talked about it on

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Speaker 1: Miles and Jack on Matt Boost. He's like, during the

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Speaker 1: second round they had won the first two games in

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Speaker 1: a series against Phoenix, and someone was like, so, do

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Speaker 1: you you expect them now to like come out with

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Speaker 1: more energy in game three, and he gave an answer

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Speaker 1: to the effect of no, my friend, I think they'll

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Speaker 1: surrender and give us the wins.

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Speaker 2: It was just very like dead pan.

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Speaker 1: He seems like a genuinely funny, weird person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, player, No, they're going to surrender and fall down.

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Speaker 1: Anna read on this is that my thoughts that he's

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Speaker 1: like leaning into this for comedic effect are incorrect. She said,

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Speaker 1: you have spend enough time with an immigrant dad who

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Speaker 1: has to go home, which, yeah, maybe the case.

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Speaker 2: I get it to him for someone who's not American

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Speaker 2: like and who is famously being like, when I'm not here,

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Speaker 2: I go back to Serbia with my horses. Big for

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Speaker 2: to be bro, I'm trying to get back to these

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Speaker 2: Horses's no offense to Denver, but I'm about these horses.

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Speaker 1: They need to let him ride the horses, like ride

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Speaker 1: in his little horse sled that has built for people

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Speaker 1: like one third his size down the main street of Denver.

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Speaker 2: That's right. He makes a Clydesdale look like a quarter

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Speaker 1: Where's big news For those of us who love the

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Speaker 1: Disney live action remakes. Sarah Polly, you know, one of

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Speaker 1: our most promising young up and coming directors, directed Women

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Speaker 1: Talking this year.

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Speaker 2: From the movie Go nineteen Obviously.

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Speaker 1: Actor and now director won An Oscar for the screenplay

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Speaker 1: for Women Talking Could Have Any Job, and is currently

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Speaker 1: in talks to direct the live action Bambi for Disney.

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Speaker 2: This sucks, Miles No, no, look, I get Lion King,

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Speaker 2: I get Jungle Book, I even get Little Mermaid to

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Speaker 2: us have seen a deer. Yeah you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: and like they are very low energy. Although I might

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Speaker 1: One of the most reliant, i'd say probably the most

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Speaker 1: film expert Daniel O'Brien on tomorrow's episode and he did

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Speaker 1: see it and confirmed that just having Nature documentary style

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Speaker 1: can't image unless they have some technology that they figured

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Speaker 1: out to make a little rabbit have the personality of Thumper,

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Speaker 1: Like they just need to skip this one.

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Speaker 2: Or what if it's heavy like Sarah Pauly's like, y'all

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Speaker 2: these like isolated men to night women, We're gonna go

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, like the Mother Game kills, it's like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get to see them like clean the deer

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Speaker 2: They team up to kill the hunters next time. They're like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's get them this time.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this could be the movie that we've been pitching

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Speaker 1: Why has this not happened yet?

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Speaker 2: And it's just called Bambi.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's in the works, it's called Bambi.

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Speaker 2: It also feels like this thing like studios do this

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Speaker 2: Like if the things don't go right, they're like, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously this young directors that was the problem,

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Speaker 2: not our idea. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Colin Trevorroh was like this director who made this really

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Speaker 1: small movie called Safety Not Guaranteed that was like kind

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Speaker 1: from that and were like, you're directing Jurassic World now,

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Speaker 2: I love blockbusters.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of times they're they're great. But

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Speaker 1: like when you're taking really promising young talent and being

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Speaker 1: that that's, you know, a direction that some careers are

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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah and gohr, Sarah Poul advocate for the movie

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Speaker 2: you want to make. Yeah, Yeah, Like we're thinking, are

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Speaker 2: there even songs. What are the songs in Bambi? I

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was just a pretty straightforward snuff

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Speaker 2: The thing that sticks. I know there's Thumperumper, and I

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Speaker 2: know the mom gets killed in the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then but it's really just a lot of

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Speaker 1: like the cutest animated animals you've ever seen, like batting

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Speaker 2: You, right, yeah, exactly. Can you imagine? It's like they

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Speaker 2: wipe your face off of Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith, he's given Jacks He's put Jacks back in

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Speaker 1: the spotlight, and I'm psyched Jack Baby.

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Speaker 2: Li Borrough, Jesus Layne, He's the new lib savior and

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Speaker 2: look he's going after Trump for the stolen documents. If

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Speaker 2: you if you haven't heard but people again, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about it on tomorrow show. Like there's March coming out.

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Speaker 2: People are loving the Jack Smith vibes. You see people

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Speaker 2: display names changing to like Jacksmith's stand account. But this

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Speaker 2: one line of reporting is getting a lot of love

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Speaker 2: from the Jack Smith fans. Hugo Lol of The Guardian

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Speaker 2: and other people who are in the court room said

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Speaker 2: that mister Smith sat in the front road during Trump's

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Speaker 2: arraignment on federal charges of documents after leaving the White

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Speaker 2: for essentially the entire appearance. O's mad dogging Trump.

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Speaker 1: Dudes, what if he's just a big fan though, Like,

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Speaker 2: Really into him? He's like, what's he gonna do? Getting

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Speaker 2: cold too, He's like, Oh, does this guy really deserve it?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: God, is he gonna kick my ass? This guy's gonna

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Speaker 2: kick my ass? Man, I know what, Jack, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: broak coward.

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Speaker 1: That would be amazing. We'll look at a clip of

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Speaker 1: him on tomorrow's episode. But I think he needs to

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Speaker 1: give more doing all of this big grudgingly lately.

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Speaker 2: Yo, kicch energy? Yeah, I mean yeah, or have the

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Speaker 2: energy of being like, man, they're not gonna they're not

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Speaker 2: gonna fucking find him guilty. Yeah, he consequences, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right. He's like, look, I got an ironclad case,

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Speaker 2: but that shit won't matter anyway. Let's home. I want

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Speaker 2: to go home. All right, let's take a quick break

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Speaker 2: and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: And we're back and the UPS, the UPS as the

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Speaker 1: UPS teams three unions have finally got the company to

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Speaker 1: agree to adding air conditioning to delivery vehicles. This is

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Speaker 1: something we've been fighting for a while now, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: especially since last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're a UPS driver died, you know,

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Speaker 2: because of the heat heat stroke. There are other people

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Speaker 2: who have said they've had like terrible health outcomes because

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Speaker 2: UPS's policy is like you got to turn the car

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Speaker 2: off when you're not using it at a red light

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Speaker 2: or whatever to not waste gas. And it's like then

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Speaker 2: you will not have a c on if you have

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Speaker 2: to turn the fucking car off. And then now they're

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Speaker 2: like adding their saying like well that heat shields too,

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Speaker 2: to like we get that the engine also make heat

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Speaker 2: and that's not good for human bodies. So you know,

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Speaker 2: they're doing the bare minimum. They still haven't ratified a

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Speaker 2: This is awesome. All right.

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Speaker 1: Well, those are some of the things that are trending

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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday, June fourteenth. We are back tomorrow with

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Speaker 1: a whole lest episode of the show. Until then, be

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Speaker 1: kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine,

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Speaker 1: don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk

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Speaker 1: to you all tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Bright Bye.