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Speaker 1: From House Towards dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Molly and I'm Kristin and Kristen. There has

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Speaker 1: been a lot in the news lately about the green economy.

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Speaker 1: The green economy is going to save us, get us

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Speaker 1: the green economy is paramount. Yeah, exactly. It's Uh. By

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Speaker 1: green economy you mean all of the industry surrounding green

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Speaker 1: products such as building solar panels, or um nuclear power plants, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: Renewable resource, renewable resources. Yeah, this has become a huge industry.

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Speaker 1: According to an article I read in the New York

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Speaker 1: Times a couple of weeks ago, I think twenty eight

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Speaker 1: states have already said quotas for um having renewable sources

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Speaker 1: And one of the criticisms that's been lobbied at this

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Speaker 1: women are not going to be adequately represented. That the

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Speaker 1: jobs that are in the green econmoy primarily construction jobs,

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Speaker 1: the kinds of jobs that women just stay away from, right, Molly,

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Speaker 1: there are some initiatives going on right now to first

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Speaker 1: like you said, a lot of these engineering, um and

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Speaker 1: important because, you know, researchers think that the green economy jobs,

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Speaker 1: like this is a really good opportunity for women to

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Speaker 1: here's I get them because you know, green's become such

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Speaker 1: Christian the question at hand, what is a renewable resource?

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