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Speaker 1: Actually, let me ask you question, right, do you believe

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Speaker 2: Now, I think we entered the era of parody. Why,

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Speaker 2: I really do think we entered the aera to parody.

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Speaker 2: I think the talent is getting better. I think it's

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Speaker 2: getting harder to put together super teams because it's a

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Speaker 2: all these different things. Right now. We were just on

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Speaker 2: Giannis would go, and a lot of people were saying

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Speaker 2: a lot of these different teams and Brian Windhurst, who's

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Speaker 2: amazing with those different things. Windy, we had a conversation

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Speaker 2: about certain teams having three players and back in the

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Speaker 2: day when I was able to do it with the

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Speaker 2: Miami Heat and we had Lebron Chris Bosh and d

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Speaker 2: to sign myself in different guys, those situations aren't happening anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's just not within the rules and different things like that.

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Speaker 2: It's just not capable happening. Now. If you're able to

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Speaker 2: get two or three superstars, you're going to go into

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Speaker 2: the luxury tack so high that is it gonna be

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Speaker 2: worth it. You got to win in the next couple

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Speaker 2: And then obviously then you got to figure out a

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Speaker 2: make minimum money around three max guys, which we were

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Speaker 2: able to do that when I was playing. None of

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Speaker 2: these guys are willing to do that anymore. Everybody wants

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Speaker 2: to make their money. So I just don't think financially

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Speaker 2: you can do it anymore to put together a super team.

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Speaker 2: But I think the parody is really growing because as

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Speaker 2: we see the shift of the older guys, we see

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Speaker 2: small market teams like the SGA's and the OKC. We

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Speaker 2: start to see the Minnesotas and the different teams like

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Speaker 2: that rise. So now we're seeing that shift of the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: and you know, unfortunately the heat you know what we

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Speaker 2: call large market teams or declining just a little. And

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Speaker 2: then we're seeing the growth of the smaller market teams.

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Speaker 2: And these are the teams that are going to the finals.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we're looking at the team where obviously the

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Speaker 2: Indiana could possibly be in the finals. OKAC in Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: one of those teams are going to be in the finals.

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Speaker 2: Those are smart market teams compared to the big market

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Speaker 1: You know, it's an incredibly exciting time for NBA fans

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Speaker 1: because I mean I was very affected as a fan

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Speaker 1: season started. Yes, it was really hard to get going,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was you just kind of were like,

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Speaker 1: what do we do with this?

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Speaker 2: It's really a rollover the dice. If you look at

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Speaker 2: what Phoenix did. They were able to put the three

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Speaker 2: superstars together. But now you're rolling the dice with what

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Speaker 2: you put around it, and if it doesn't work, now

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Speaker 2: you pigeonhole and you're stuck. And like, now I got

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Speaker 1: And you know what's what else has been interesting? You

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Speaker 1: know this way better than I do, So I'm asking

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Speaker 1: you more than saying. But as the game has evolved

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Speaker 1: all the other thing that's been interesting is the role

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Speaker 2: So I'll tell you this about the role players. The stars,

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Speaker 2: they get to shoot whatever shot they want. If you're

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Speaker 2: say there's no mid range in the NBA. That's a fly.

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Speaker 2: KD can shoot mid range, Lebron can shoot mid range,

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Speaker 2: Luka can shoot mid range. Your role playing ass you

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Speaker 2: better shoot them threes and you better defend. So that

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Speaker 2: that is the role of most role players in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Most role players are three and d guys unless you're

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Speaker 1: Do you do you think that a rule changes needed

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Speaker 1: or do you do you think do you believe the

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Speaker 1: my brother said something in our basketball thread when everyone

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Speaker 1: was talking about this late winter last year early this year,

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Speaker 1: But you know, what's your take on that? Do you

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Speaker 2: That, I think a little bit of that, and also

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Speaker 2: a little bit of guys just not playing. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: lot of the times, a lot of these guys are

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Speaker 2: sitting out different games, and I think fans are getting

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Speaker 2: tired of that. You know, you have a responsibility and

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Speaker 2: accountability not just for the fans but for your team. First, yep,

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Speaker 2: And then secondly, the fans show up to see you.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's part of it. I think, yes,

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Speaker 2: I think everybody doesn't have the personnel to shoot thirty

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Speaker 2: forty threes. But I think for whatever reason, a lot

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Speaker 2: the three point line. I mean, the Boston Celtics brought

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Speaker 2: forcing up threes. But what I will say is habits,

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Speaker 2: I think you just need to start building those habits.

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Speaker 2: keep up with this team. No, these are the habits

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Speaker 2: We got away from the two bigs for a while,

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Speaker 2: and that kind of hurt my career because once we

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Speaker 2: small forward that you put at power forwards. So we

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Speaker 2: got away from that. So now we're in the trend

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Speaker 2: of the two base I mean super meaningful for.

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Speaker 1: The next right now. Yeah, when mentioned cat both out there, problem.

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Speaker 2: You gotta give mister Robinson his credit. Where credits do man?

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Speaker 2: I mean make a free throw? Not he has impacted

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Speaker 2: the game of basketball, and it's playing winning basketball in

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Speaker 2: a real he is playing winning basket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he obviously is going to probably have

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Speaker 1: a very interesting offseason at the free throw line and

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Speaker 1: has never been a good free throw shooter. But if

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm a huge fan of Hertenstein. Crazy that

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