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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Hey

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Speaker 1: have fun watching Trump fell h Putin in their meeting

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Speaker 1: today in Alaska, Now in Russia. No in Alaska, No

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Speaker 1: in Russia. You know, I don't know where it is anymore.

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Speaker 1: I'm too busy, still giggling that Caroline Levitt renamed it

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Speaker 1: from the Putin Ukraine Summit into Trump's listening exercise, Trump

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Speaker 1: listening to Putin a listening exercise with Putin listening to

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Speaker 1: Putin tell him what to do? No shit. As always

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Speaker 1: the last line of defense against democracy besides South Park,

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Speaker 1: this fact, the last line of defense for democracy is

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Speaker 1: these guys are idiots, and this one is simple to see.

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Speaker 1: What's going to happen. Trump and Putin will leave this

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Speaker 1: photo op having agreed on something utterly agreeable to Putin,

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Speaker 1: like the ceasefire that Axios reports Trump told European leaders

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Speaker 1: yesterday he really wants and you know what that would be.

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Speaker 1: Putin will agree to a ceasefire. If Ukraine will stop

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Speaker 1: annoying Putin by trying to defend its territory, then Trump

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Speaker 1: will claim a victory that he has settled this war.

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Speaker 1: Then Ukraine will reject it. Although President Zelenski's real play

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Speaker 1: Zelenski and say, well, he resolved this war except for

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Speaker 1: the war part, and that Zelensky screwed it up. But

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Speaker 1: he's the great deal maker and you must love him. Now.

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Speaker 1: Actually it may turn out worse than that. The Times

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Speaker 1: of London, reporting with this headline, US and Russia propose

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Speaker 1: West Bank style occupation of Ukraine. Trump's envoy, Steve Whitkoff,

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Speaker 1: is understood to support the idea, which can be revealed

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Speaker 1: before the President meets Putin in Alaska. We Sure about Alaska.

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Speaker 1: Russia and the United States have discussed a model for

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Speaker 1: ending the war in Ukraine that mirrors Israel's occupation of

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Speaker 1: the West Bank. The Times has been told, under this scenario,

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Speaker 1: Right Sure would have military and economic control of occupied

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Speaker 1: Ukraine under its own governing body, imitating Israel's de facto

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Speaker 1: rule of Palestinian territory seized from Jordan in nineteen sixty seven.

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Speaker 1: The idea was raised weeks ago in discussions between Steve

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Speaker 1: It'll just be like Israel occupies the West Bank, the

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Speaker 1: source said, with a governor with an economic situation that

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Speaker 1: goes into Russia, not Ukraine. But it'll still be Ukraine

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Speaker 1: because Ukraine will never give up its sovereignty. But the

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Speaker 1: reality is it'll be occupied territory and the model of

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Speaker 1: Palestine unquote, just like Israel and the West Bank, it'll

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Speaker 1: Best possible model out there, the West Bank. From Bloomberg TV,

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Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant told them sanctions are a possibility

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Speaker 1: if Putin doesn't do what Trump wants. Trump will quote

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Speaker 1: make it clear to President Putin that all options are

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Speaker 1: on the table. Yes, the options are Trump will pee

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Speaker 1: his pants or Trump will shit his pants. From Politico.

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Speaker 1: Trump said Putin could face very severe consequences if he

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Speaker 1: decides Putin is still not serious about ending the war. Ooh,

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Speaker 1: serious consequences this time? You know what that means. That

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Speaker 1: means Trump will no longer give him another fifty days

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Speaker 1: to end the war. He'll only give him twenty five

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Speaker 1: more days to end the war. Trump is a laughingstock

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Speaker 1: after a meeting that hasn't happened yet. You want to

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Speaker 1: impress the world? Trump, Do you want to make up

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Speaker 1: for everything at the meeting, during the photo op, during

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Speaker 1: the handshake attack putin with your manly bare hands around

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Speaker 1: the throat. Very severe consequences. What you won't let him

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Speaker 1: hack the American Federal Court document computers next time? You

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Speaker 1: help prosecute Russians. Severe consequences. Threaten him with sanctions on

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Speaker 1: Russian oil while letting him wash Russian crude oil through

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Speaker 3: Kitty kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty kitty.

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Speaker 1: Okay about the new military dictatorship in Washington that Trump

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Speaker 1: has threatened to impose also on Baltimore, Chicago, and New York.

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Speaker 1: Mayor Muriel Bowser of Washington described Trump's moves as unsettling

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Speaker 1: may be a positive. Bullshit, Mayor. It's a military dictatorship

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Speaker 1: that is in no way a positive, Madam, Mayor. It

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Speaker 1: Trump believes is his, like Julius Caesar thought the army

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Speaker 1: it in every place in your city, Mayor, and then

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Speaker 1: difference between exploiting any value you might perceive and collaborating

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Speaker 1: the city of Washington in some way, great, don't tell

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Speaker 1: Paper reports Mayor Bowser finally snapped out of her pacifist dream.

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Speaker 1: We don't live in a dirty city, Powser declared during

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Speaker 1: neighborhoods that should be bulldozed. Our community needs to jump in.

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Speaker 1: We all need to do what we can in our space,

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Speaker 1: to this authoritarian push. Well, that's a little bit more

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Speaker 1: like it. Also, what Trump is doing Washington is based

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Speaker 1: on an utter lie. Not just an utter lie, but

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Speaker 1: It's a lie about what they said. What they them

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Speaker 1: said selves pre contradicted the lie that crime is increasing

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Speaker 1: in the District of Columbia, speaking of the District of Columbia.

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Speaker 1: This is a lie and a self flagellation worthy of

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Speaker 1: Columbia University. Less than four months ago, the Trump goon

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Speaker 1: praise Trump for it. April twenty eighth quote. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: Make DC Safe Again initiative, the district has seen a

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Speaker 1: We're bringing in the troops. They will lie in any direction.

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Speaker 1: They will contradict themselves in any direction. They will say

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Speaker 1: it tomorrow. And if there were any doubts as to

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Speaker 1: what Trump's plans long term are here, he gave them

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Speaker 1: away yesterday. He might as well have put on the

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Speaker 1: By the way, the day he comes out wearing a

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Speaker 1: That is the day when either he goes or any

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a hat. In the interim, though,

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Speaker 1: we have this bullshit.

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Speaker 4: Your federalization of the police has a thirty day limit

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Speaker 4: unless Congress acts to extend it. Are you talking to

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Speaker 5: Well, if it's a national emergency, we can do it

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Speaker 5: Congress very quickly. And again we think the Democrats will

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Speaker 5: need a crime bill that we're going to be putting

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Speaker 5: in and it's going to pertain initially to DC. It's

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Speaker 5: almost we're going to use it as a very positive example,

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Speaker 5: and we're going to be asking for extensions on that,

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Speaker 5: long term extensions, because you can't have thirty days. Thirty

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Speaker 2: And don't forget in the border.

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Speaker 5: Everyone said it would take years and you'd have to

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Speaker 2: I never went to Congress for anything.

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Speaker 5: I just said close the border, and he closed the

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Speaker 2: I didn't go back to Congress. We're going to do

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Speaker 1: The f you can f face Brian Boitler, why I

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Speaker 1: authoritarian federal government. He's not talking about the gunfight at

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Speaker 1: the DuPont Circle Corral, but he's saying, maybe it's time

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Speaker 1: to reduce the hurdles keeping Americans who live in places

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Speaker 1: these people who are being physically threatened the ones he's

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Speaker 1: Trump Stein one of the greatest of the Monty Python

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Speaker 1: give me a lift? And John Clee says can do?

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Speaker 1: But won't This from Aba Brown at the press briefing

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Speaker 1: the other day, Trump wants to see credible evidence released.

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Speaker 1: credible evidence released. As for the appeal process, I would

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Speaker 1: send you to the Department of Justice for that. Well, sure,

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Speaker 1: he wants to see credible evidence released, but of course

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Speaker 1: he also wants to make sure that such evidence is

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Speaker 1: not released. Just like crime is going up in DC,

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Speaker 1: except it's twenty five percent down, says his spokesman, who's

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Speaker 1: not around, so you can't go back to him and say,

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Speaker 5: Or both?

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Speaker 1: We want to see credible evidence released. Not on this planet.

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Speaker 1: She's a genius. I mean she just is. She is

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Speaker 1: nineteen in an interview Epstein referred to Trump as his

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Speaker 1: closest friend for ten years, a claim echoed by three

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Speaker 1: others who knew the men. Maria Farmer, one of Epstein's

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Speaker 1: all of whom use the phrase best friend to describe

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Speaker 1: their bond in recent interviews on CNN, A timeline of

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Speaker 1: Trump's interactions with Epstein and Glaine Maxwell reveals a long

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Speaker 1: pattern CNN reported of social proximity that stands in sharp

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Speaker 1: contrast to Trump's public attempts to downplay their friendship. End quote.

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Speaker 1: The timeline that CNN then produced, which goes on page

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Speaker 1: after page after page, and photograph after photograph after photograph,

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Speaker 1: and irregardless, and give the honor that is due.

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Speaker 4: Here with the Nobel Peace Prize.

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Speaker 1: But this begs the question, is Marjorie Barney Rubbel Green

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Speaker 1: no longer just the stupidest Republican but the stupidest human alive?

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Speaker 1: Also of interest, here Andrew Cuomo has done one of these,

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Speaker 1: only it was with a Muhammad Ali quote. The Muhammad

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Speaker 1: Ali quote, and Andrew Cuomo has been defeated by a

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Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali quote as well as by Mandani.

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Speaker 2: That's next.

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Speaker 1: This is Countdown. I got that right.

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Speaker 2: This is Countdown with Keith Olberman.

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Speaker 1: Still ahead on this all new edition of Countdown. I

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Speaker 1: am late to the anniversary by more than one week

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Speaker 1: in fact, but I can never forget this anniversary at

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Speaker 1: this time of year, seared into my memory forty six

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Speaker 1: years and twelve days ago, a month into my career.

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Speaker 1: Seven solo shifts into my career, and this it's our

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Speaker 1: catcher and captain of the New York Yankees baseball team

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Speaker 1: is killed in a plane crash. His plane one minute

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Speaker 1: before I was going on to do a sportscast carried

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Speaker 1: by one thousand radio stations on our network. Next in

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Speaker 1: things I promise not to tell first believe it or not,

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00:35:27,315 --> 00:35:29,915
Speaker 1: the fun stuff. There are still more new idiots to

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Speaker 1: talk about. The roundup of the misgrants, morons and Dunning

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Speaker 1: Kruger effects specimens who constitute today's other worst persons in

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Speaker 1: the world. The Bronze worse after Trump's step towards military

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Speaker 1: dictatorship in DC no, he's not just trying to throw

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Speaker 1: raw meat to the base. He's trying to take over

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Speaker 1: the dictatorship and start it now. After that, everything that

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Speaker 1: is wrong in the media and wrong in this country,

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00:36:04,195 --> 00:36:08,315
Speaker 1: and raw in the Leopards Eating Faces party, all those

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Speaker 1: people who said I didn't know the leopardsre gonna eat

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Speaker 1: my face, and in its rival, the I didn't know

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Speaker 1: we were frogs being boiled alive party, All that is

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Speaker 1: wrong in all of these things summed up in eighteen

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Speaker 1: words on CNN. Literally, the network can go off the

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Speaker 1: air now. It is fulfilled its final purpose to summarize

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Speaker 1: this nightmare in less than twenty words. I guess the

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Speaker 1: contest is twenty five words or less. She beat it

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Speaker 1: by seven eighteen words. It was, of course on CNN,

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Speaker 1: and it was of course by Casey Hunt, who's one

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Speaker 1: of the hosts there. I would say newscaster, but that's

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Speaker 1: not that's not what she does. This is another person,

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Speaker 1: another celebrity on CNN, who has decided that the events

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Speaker 1: of the world do not apply to her, that she

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Speaker 1: lives in some other world over there, cross town, that

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Speaker 1: the things that happen don't apply to her and never

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Speaker 1: will touch her and she'll never have a problem with him.

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00:37:22,955 --> 00:37:25,795
Speaker 1: And she was on the Trump campaign in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: And like everybody else who covered that, now that they're

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Speaker 1: not facing that every day, they seem some of some

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Speaker 1: merit in this, like the mayor of Washington saying, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe this it's not gonna be a help. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: be in a prison camp. If not now, then later.

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Speaker 1: Christ read your history book. You don't have to go

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Speaker 1: to about page fifteen. In any event, this is what happened.

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Speaker 1: Representative Jamie Raskin was on Casey Hunt's show Treasure Hunter,

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Speaker 1: whatever it's called, and talked about the fact that crime

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Speaker 1: is significantly down. It's the second lowest murder rate in

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Speaker 1: sixty years in Washington, second lowest overall crime rate in

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Speaker 1: thirty years in Washington, dropping by twenty five percent. Trump

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Speaker 1: boasted that it was down by Trump's lackey ed Martin boasted,

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Speaker 1: and Trump boasted that crime is down by a quarter

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Speaker 1: since he took office. It's already down, and yet he's

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Speaker 1: doing this, And what does Casey Hunt ask Jamie Raskin?

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Speaker 1: We know that statistics show crime is down in DC,

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Speaker 1: but does it feel like crime is down what's the vibe,

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Speaker 1: because we're gonna turn this country into a dictatorship because

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Speaker 1: Casey Hunt has a bad vibe because she and Bennie Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Benny Johnson, of course, has been Benny Johnson has been

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Speaker 1: murdered several times when he lived in Washington, and then

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Speaker 1: he came back to life. And they and they and

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Speaker 1: they burned down his house, and they had murders outside

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Speaker 1: his house, and murders in his basement, and they they

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Speaker 1: lit they lit an entire city block on fire, and

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Speaker 1: and the and the nuclear weapons were used on his block.

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Speaker 1: You heard him, and Casey Hunt is asking, does it

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Speaker 1: feel like crime is down? I don't know. Does it

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Speaker 1: feel to you like you're a functioning idiot? Does it

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Speaker 1: feel like crime is do That's why we are going

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Speaker 1: to hell in a handbasket. Because somebody would say something

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Speaker 1: like that, I would argue that that is a dumber

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Speaker 1: thing said on CNN than the day a decade ago

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Speaker 1: after the Malaysian airliner disappeared, and Don Lemon asked if

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Speaker 1: there could be a small enough black hole in the

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Speaker 1: universe to have swallowed up just the one aircraft that

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Speaker 1: it might have just gone into a into a black hole.

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Speaker 1: That was pretty That really was an indicator that somebody

515
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Speaker 1: had never considered anything about black holes physics. What would

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Speaker 1: happen if there were a black hole near the Earth

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Speaker 1: that one necessarily big enough to swallow a plane would

518
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Speaker 1: swallow the entirety of Earth and his own house. Nope, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: I would argue, this is dumber. This is somebody in

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Speaker 1: the news whose newscast is not necessarily so influential that

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Speaker 1: the CNN executives would try to kill it off or

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Speaker 1: turn them into a Trump supporter the way they did

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Speaker 1: with Jake Tapper. I mean, Chris Lick did not even

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Speaker 1: bother trying to turn Casey Hunt into anything other than

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Speaker 1: what she is. Somebody would ask, we know that statistics

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Speaker 1: show crime is don't in DC, but does it feel

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Speaker 1: like crime is down? You can put that on the

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Speaker 1: country's epitaph. Put that right on the stone United States

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Speaker 1: of America. It was a good idea seventeen seventy six,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. But does it feel like crime is done? Also?

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Speaker 1: Does this pot that we're in feel warmer than it does?

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Speaker 1: And what about those leopards eating those faces? Does it

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Speaker 1: feel like they're eating those faces? Runner up worser Andrew Cuomo.

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Speaker 1: Can't imagine you missed this, but if you did somehow,

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Speaker 1: He put this out on Twitter about his supposed fight

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Speaker 1: against Zorn Mamdani for mayor of New York, the one

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Speaker 1: he already lost and has decided for some reason to

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Speaker 1: go out and lose again, two in one year. He

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Speaker 1: decided to compliment his fighting spirit his return from you know,

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Speaker 1: being one of the many New York governors who had

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Speaker 1: to resign, this time both over a sex scandal and

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Speaker 1: over a dead people scandal. Good good, good, good good

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Speaker 1: governor be mayor now. Yeah, except he's losing by more

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Speaker 1: than he than he was losing in the primary. In

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Speaker 1: any event, I haven't gotten around to what he wrote.

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Speaker 1: He wrote, fly like a butterfly sting like a bee.

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Speaker 1: Literally the most famous quote given by worldwide, the most

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Speaker 1: famous person in the nineteen seventies certainly, and still into

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Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties and into this decade, the beginning

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Speaker 1: of this decade, anyway. When he died two thousand and sixteen,

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Speaker 1: I want to say, literally his most famous quote. You

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00:42:48,675 --> 00:42:55,355
Speaker 1: google ali quote and the one you get is float

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Speaker 1: like a butterfly, sting like a bee. That's why it's famous.

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00:43:00,595 --> 00:43:03,555
Speaker 1: It's clever. It doesn't have the same word in it

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00:43:03,595 --> 00:43:06,875
Speaker 1: twice in a span of one, two, three four words

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Speaker 1: fly like a butterfly, fly like a flying butterfly, would

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Speaker 1: be better fly butterly like a flying butterfly. Andrew, did

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Speaker 1: you read it aloud before you hit s end? Did

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Speaker 1: you ask anybody else to do it? Or is there

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Speaker 1: even worse somebody you hired to do social media for

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Speaker 1: you who wrote that this is Andrew Cuomo's best chance

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Speaker 1: to become mayor of New York. Cancel all the ads,

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Speaker 1: Cancel all of his idiotic ads, stop all social media,

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Speaker 1: in fact, leave the country until election day. I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you if you do that, you will go up in

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Speaker 1: the polls. I'm not saying you'll come close to Himndannie,

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Speaker 1: but you will go up in the polls. The only

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Speaker 1: thing I can figure about this whole campaign is that

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Speaker 1: it's even there's some sort of punked prank and they're

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Speaker 1: filming it all to make it into a reality series

571
00:44:10,915 --> 00:44:17,075
Speaker 1: called Andrew Cuomo deliberately loses the election or the campaign

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00:44:17,195 --> 00:44:22,475
Speaker 1: is just one giant coded message from Cuomo to Trump

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Speaker 1: that yes, Cuomo will serve as Trump's military governor of

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Speaker 1: the New York Zone when Trump puts every blue city

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Speaker 1: under martial law after Casey Hunt is done asking, but

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Speaker 1: does it feel see Cuomo in New York, Janine Piro

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Speaker 1: in Wine Country, and of course Casey Hunt in Washington.

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Speaker 1: Fly like a butterfly unless he was trying, and we've

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Speaker 1: gotten this all wrong. He was trying not for Muhammad Ali,

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Speaker 1: but for the Steve Miller band. Fly like an eagle,

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Speaker 1: sting like uh, I'm I'm free, Float like a butterfly,

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Speaker 1: stink from the head like a fish. And still there's

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Speaker 1: something worse. The winner, the worst. Jeff Bezos. I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna read this post from Okay magazine. Okay, well it's okay.

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Speaker 1: Letter Oh letter k exclamation point? How do you pronounce that?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Quote?

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos is about to make his wife Lauren Sanchez

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Speaker 1: a star. Insiders recently revealed Bezos' plans to launch his

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Speaker 1: wife into the sun No launch his wife into a

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Speaker 1: prominent acting role in the James Bond reboot, claiming the

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Speaker 1: billionaire is fit on seeing her in the film. I

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Speaker 1: think the word you were going for there is fixated. Quote.

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Speaker 1: He's obsessed a Hollywood insider dished to a news outlet,

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Speaker 1: this isn't just fantasy casting. Jeff wants her on screen period.

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00:46:22,595 --> 00:46:24,355
Speaker 1: I guess on the theory that if he has to

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Speaker 1: suffer her, we all have to suffer her.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: So Bezos bought the Bond franchise a couple months ago.

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Speaker 1: He asked people online who the next Bond Girl should be.

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Speaker 1: And now this would explain why he did that, because

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Speaker 1: Lauren Sanchez would be the next Bond Girl. A few problems. First,

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00:46:50,755 --> 00:46:55,275
Speaker 1: she can't move her lips anymore. I mean when she

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Speaker 1: could move her lips when I worked with her, she

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00:46:58,795 --> 00:47:03,675
Speaker 1: couldn't move her lips. The famous tape, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what became of it. And once again I copied so

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00:47:07,075 --> 00:47:09,595
Speaker 1: many things in so many different jobs. I don't have this.

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Speaker 1: The famous spot for Fox Sports News quote her on

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Speaker 1: camera reading a story about the baseball pitcher quote Roger

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Speaker 1: Clemens era is the second lowest in his er. And

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Speaker 1: that was done to be fair. She was a little

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Speaker 1: busy at the time. She was carrying the child of

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Speaker 1: an NFL player while dating an NBA player. This was

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Speaker 1: just before she left Fox and went to the local

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Speaker 1: independent station in lak cop and did the news and

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00:47:43,515 --> 00:47:46,035
Speaker 1: did that sweep series I've told you about before, how

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Speaker 1: to Meet a Baller, which I thought was the most

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Speaker 1: appalling thing I'd ever seen in local television news until

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00:47:51,755 --> 00:47:53,755
Speaker 1: I realized that for the first time here was a

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Speaker 1: sweep series, how to sweep series there was actually being

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Speaker 1: conducted by an expert. I mean, the two of them

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Speaker 1: now when they are in public, they look like Waylon

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Speaker 1: Jenny and Madam. No, Whalen Flowers and Madam. Whalen Jennings

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Speaker 1: was the musical artist, the country western star. Whalen Flowers

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Speaker 1: was his name. I may have called him Whalen Jennings

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00:48:20,555 --> 00:48:24,715
Speaker 1: at some point. Look up Whalen Flowers and Madam and

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00:48:25,795 --> 00:48:29,395
Speaker 1: just you know, Google image or something, or don't you know,

627
00:48:29,555 --> 00:48:34,195
Speaker 1: maybe just go to Amazon and buy Whalen Flowers and Madam.

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00:48:35,115 --> 00:48:40,035
Speaker 1: You'll see what I'm talking about. I get it. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: You're worth all the money in the world. Of course

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Speaker 1: you get a trophy wife. Conversely, you're Lauren Sanchez. Your

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00:48:48,355 --> 00:48:50,555
Speaker 1: goal is to find the richest man you can. I

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00:48:50,555 --> 00:48:55,675
Speaker 1: don't think that's a sexist observation. I literally I literally

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00:48:55,715 --> 00:48:58,395
Speaker 1: met her in nineteen ninety eight. It is an analysis

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00:48:58,395 --> 00:49:02,075
Speaker 1: of her life to that point, let alone. Since then,

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Speaker 1: I'm not objecting. I'm not judging people relationships. I have

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Speaker 1: a whole pile of relationships that people go what you did?

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Speaker 5: What?

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00:49:13,835 --> 00:49:17,475
Speaker 1: Seriously, what were you thinking? And of course the correct

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Speaker 1: answer is nothing. I was thinking nothing obviously.

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Speaker 2: Sorry.

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00:49:23,995 --> 00:49:27,715
Speaker 1: I mean, that's my attitude towards it. I'm just as

642
00:49:27,755 --> 00:49:31,795
Speaker 1: guilty as the rest of them. However, I'm not objecting.

643
00:49:31,835 --> 00:49:34,115
Speaker 1: But you are doing it in public, and if this

644
00:49:34,275 --> 00:49:38,075
Speaker 1: is correct, you are going into a James Bond movie

645
00:49:38,355 --> 00:49:43,515
Speaker 1: with no professional acting experience. You're going to get some attention.

646
00:49:46,475 --> 00:49:49,235
Speaker 1: But the real problem begins when Daddy Warbucks over here

647
00:49:49,315 --> 00:49:54,515
Speaker 1: decides Lauren is a James Bond girl at least. Okay,

648
00:49:54,995 --> 00:49:58,795
Speaker 1: magazine says that that is what he has decided. Let

649
00:49:58,835 --> 00:50:02,835
Speaker 1: me read that money quote again. Okay, he says Bezos

650
00:50:02,955 --> 00:50:06,835
Speaker 1: quote plans to law launch his wife into a prominent

651
00:50:07,355 --> 00:50:12,715
Speaker 1: acting role in the James Bond reboot. Doesn't say which one.

652
00:50:12,875 --> 00:50:16,155
Speaker 1: Doesn't say Bond girl. We're just assuming what that role

653
00:50:16,235 --> 00:50:21,515
Speaker 1: is Bond girl. It could be something else. Jeff Bezos

654
00:50:21,875 --> 00:50:28,955
Speaker 1: with Lauren Sanchez as Odd Job, or with Lauren Sanchez

655
00:50:29,515 --> 00:50:38,755
Speaker 1: as Richard keel as Jaws, Today's other worst person in the.

656
00:50:52,995 --> 00:51:01,555
Speaker 4: The Nobel Peace Prize.

657
00:51:02,555 --> 00:51:04,675
Speaker 1: And now to our number one story on the count

658
00:51:04,835 --> 00:51:06,835
Speaker 1: down and things I promised not to tell, And back

659
00:51:06,875 --> 00:51:10,115
Speaker 1: to my favorite topic, me and I will take you

660
00:51:10,155 --> 00:51:17,235
Speaker 1: back a little ways, back to August second, nineteen seventy nine.

661
00:51:17,435 --> 00:51:21,875
Speaker 1: One month earlier to that day, July second, nineteen seventy nine,

662
00:51:21,915 --> 00:51:26,275
Speaker 1: I had been in the stands in my family's seats

663
00:51:26,315 --> 00:51:28,795
Speaker 1: back of first base at Yankee Stadium in New York.

664
00:51:29,275 --> 00:51:34,155
Speaker 1: I was a twenty year old fan, unemployed, applauding Thurman

665
00:51:34,235 --> 00:51:38,315
Speaker 1: Munson's RBI double and Lou Panela's two for four day

666
00:51:38,795 --> 00:51:41,795
Speaker 1: and Roy White's appearance since he was my mother's favorite

667
00:51:41,835 --> 00:51:46,835
Speaker 1: New York Yankee player. Now August second, I was finishing

668
00:51:46,875 --> 00:51:50,275
Speaker 1: the first month of my professional broadcasting career. It was

669
00:51:50,395 --> 00:51:54,435
Speaker 1: either my seventh or eighth solo shift as the nighttime

670
00:51:54,475 --> 00:51:59,155
Speaker 1: sportscaster at UPI's radio network. For my first sports cast

671
00:51:59,155 --> 00:52:01,795
Speaker 1: have that night, I had long since finished my script.

672
00:52:02,035 --> 00:52:04,555
Speaker 1: Tom Watson was leading in Round one of the PG

673
00:52:05,035 --> 00:52:09,315
Speaker 1: Championship golf that is in Michigan. The lawyer who owned

674
00:52:09,315 --> 00:52:12,995
Speaker 1: the Washington team of the NFL, Edward Bennett Williams had

675
00:52:13,035 --> 00:52:16,595
Speaker 1: just bought the Baltimore Orioles. There was a Montreal Expo

676
00:52:16,755 --> 00:52:22,275
Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs matinee in Montreal with three rain delays, and

677
00:52:22,355 --> 00:52:24,635
Speaker 1: they were supposed to have had a roof on that stadium.

678
00:52:25,315 --> 00:52:27,795
Speaker 1: It was five forty three pm Eastern, and I was

679
00:52:27,795 --> 00:52:31,355
Speaker 1: making the short walk from the little sports cubby hole

680
00:52:31,835 --> 00:52:34,435
Speaker 1: where I prepared the broadcast, to the little main on

681
00:52:34,675 --> 00:52:38,635
Speaker 1: air studio, and just walking past this bank of thermal

682
00:52:38,795 --> 00:52:47,035
Speaker 1: printers which each made this same sluggish, muted honking sound

683
00:52:48,595 --> 00:52:52,115
Speaker 1: like that as they slowly printed stories on what wasn't

684
00:52:52,355 --> 00:52:56,275
Speaker 1: really paper. There was the main UPI wire, There was

685
00:52:56,315 --> 00:53:00,315
Speaker 1: the UPI Sports wire, the UPI Business wire, the UPI

686
00:53:00,475 --> 00:53:05,555
Speaker 1: International Wire, the UPI Radio wire, several internal message wires.

687
00:53:06,075 --> 00:53:10,475
Speaker 1: There was a UPI Tartar wire, But it was the

688
00:53:10,475 --> 00:53:14,155
Speaker 1: message wires that suddenly started to make noise. Those were

689
00:53:14,155 --> 00:53:17,555
Speaker 1: the ones via which the UPI bureaus around the world

690
00:53:17,915 --> 00:53:22,315
Speaker 1: could communicate more or less instantly with headquarters in New York,

691
00:53:23,955 --> 00:53:29,475
Speaker 1: the equivalent of I guess texts or intra office top

692
00:53:29,515 --> 00:53:36,155
Speaker 1: lines in computers faster than an email. Even today New York,

693
00:53:36,315 --> 00:53:41,075
Speaker 1: the New York Bureau was abbreviated an X. Not sure why,

694
00:53:41,115 --> 00:53:45,715
Speaker 1: but there was New York was NX. As I got

695
00:53:45,755 --> 00:53:48,235
Speaker 1: within a foot of these machines, one of them made

696
00:53:48,275 --> 00:53:51,395
Speaker 1: a noise I had never heard before, a series of

697
00:53:51,515 --> 00:53:55,915
Speaker 1: ten loud bells. I moved over to see what the

698
00:53:55,915 --> 00:53:59,555
Speaker 1: hell that could mean. The news editor, Frank Rayfield, came

699
00:53:59,555 --> 00:54:02,115
Speaker 1: over to check as well. Obviously he hadn't heard this

700
00:54:02,195 --> 00:54:04,675
Speaker 1: a lot in his career, and his was longer than mine.

701
00:54:05,195 --> 00:54:10,755
Speaker 1: We saw the words simultaneously, and we gasped simultaneously. Cleveland

702
00:54:10,795 --> 00:54:15,795
Speaker 1: Bureau to NX. Thurman Munson Catcher Captain New York Yankees dead,

703
00:54:16,115 --> 00:54:23,715
Speaker 1: piloting private plane, Canton Akron Airport thirty. As soon as

704
00:54:23,755 --> 00:54:27,075
Speaker 1: the words finished printing, Cleveland sent it again. The bells

705
00:54:27,115 --> 00:54:29,795
Speaker 1: went off again. I could now see from one of

706
00:54:29,835 --> 00:54:33,755
Speaker 1: the ubiquitous clocks in the room. I now had about

707
00:54:33,795 --> 00:54:36,835
Speaker 1: a minute until my sportscast started, whether or not I

708
00:54:36,955 --> 00:54:39,595
Speaker 1: was in the studio. The editor pointed this out to me,

709
00:54:39,635 --> 00:54:41,835
Speaker 1: as well, you'll have to add lib the sports cast,

710
00:54:41,955 --> 00:54:44,115
Speaker 1: then come out here and do a voicer just talk

711
00:54:44,155 --> 00:54:46,475
Speaker 1: about his career, keep repeating that this is a bulletin,

712
00:54:46,555 --> 00:54:48,955
Speaker 1: that he's dead, that he was piloting a private plane.

713
00:54:49,075 --> 00:54:52,955
Speaker 1: You know anything about him and planes? And I remember

714
00:54:52,995 --> 00:54:56,595
Speaker 1: saying aloud, oh God, yes I do, and he said, well,

715
00:54:56,675 --> 00:54:59,875
Speaker 1: use whatever you think fits. If anything else comes in,

716
00:55:00,115 --> 00:55:01,475
Speaker 1: I'll bring it in to you and I'll try to

717
00:55:01,475 --> 00:55:05,635
Speaker 1: get somebody at the airport for some sound. I don't

718
00:55:05,675 --> 00:55:07,995
Speaker 1: remember what I said on the air at five point

719
00:55:08,035 --> 00:55:14,515
Speaker 1: forty five Eastern time or anything else that night, nor

720
00:55:14,555 --> 00:55:18,035
Speaker 1: in the special report the voicer that the editor Frank

721
00:55:18,075 --> 00:55:20,475
Speaker 1: had just had me record. As soon as I finished

722
00:55:20,475 --> 00:55:24,075
Speaker 1: that live sports cast, it was all recorded, and I

723
00:55:24,115 --> 00:55:26,755
Speaker 1: never wanted to hear a word of it because I

724
00:55:26,835 --> 00:55:30,355
Speaker 1: knew my youth was over right then. Thurman Munson had

725
00:55:30,395 --> 00:55:34,515
Speaker 1: joined the New York Yankees when I was ten years old,

726
00:55:34,595 --> 00:55:39,555
Speaker 1: literally half my life ago. On that date, he was

727
00:55:39,555 --> 00:55:42,195
Speaker 1: the first good rookie I ever saw added to my team.

728
00:55:42,355 --> 00:55:45,875
Speaker 1: The Yankees stunk when I was a kid. My family

729
00:55:45,955 --> 00:55:49,235
Speaker 1: was convinced he looked like my mother's cousin Billy. I

730
00:55:49,275 --> 00:55:51,395
Speaker 1: met him a couple of times. I'd photographed him once

731
00:55:51,435 --> 00:55:54,035
Speaker 1: when I was a photographer, interviewed him once. He was gruff,

732
00:55:54,715 --> 00:55:57,395
Speaker 1: he was forbidding, but I had never had a problem

733
00:55:57,435 --> 00:56:00,195
Speaker 1: with him. If you were polite, and you had picked

734
00:56:00,195 --> 00:56:02,235
Speaker 1: the right moment to do it. There wasn't a problem

735
00:56:03,835 --> 00:56:08,915
Speaker 1: what I knew about him and his plane. Frank Rayfield's

736
00:56:08,955 --> 00:56:12,675
Speaker 1: question to me, I spoke of as generically as possible,

737
00:56:12,675 --> 00:56:16,195
Speaker 1: because in my mind I flashed back to lunch in

738
00:56:16,275 --> 00:56:19,755
Speaker 1: the press room at the old Yankee Stadium four months earlier,

739
00:56:20,275 --> 00:56:23,435
Speaker 1: when I was still in college, sitting there with my

740
00:56:23,475 --> 00:56:27,235
Speaker 1: friend Rick Sarone. Rick Sarone an editor and writer, not

741
00:56:27,395 --> 00:56:31,555
Speaker 1: Rick Saron, who would later be the Yankees catcher replacing

742
00:56:31,635 --> 00:56:37,395
Speaker 1: Thurman Munson. Of all people, Munson editor, Rick Sarone said,

743
00:56:37,435 --> 00:56:40,475
Speaker 1: almost surreptitiously, leaning in toward me over the little table

744
00:56:40,475 --> 00:56:44,115
Speaker 1: in the press room, is flying his own plane back

745
00:56:44,155 --> 00:56:50,075
Speaker 1: home to Ohio on every day off, and the Yankees

746
00:56:50,115 --> 00:56:53,635
Speaker 1: are terrified. He's just not as good a pilot as

747
00:56:53,635 --> 00:56:56,195
Speaker 1: he thinks he is, honest to God, one of the

748
00:56:56,275 --> 00:56:59,595
Speaker 1: executives is trying to get Steinbrenner to trade him to

749
00:56:59,675 --> 00:57:02,875
Speaker 1: Cleveland just so he'll get out of the plane. They

750
00:57:03,035 --> 00:57:09,435
Speaker 1: all think he might wind up himself. I don't even

751
00:57:09,435 --> 00:57:12,235
Speaker 1: know how many special reports I did, in addition to

752
00:57:12,315 --> 00:57:16,035
Speaker 1: a new sports cast every hour that night. Later, a

753
00:57:16,035 --> 00:57:18,355
Speaker 1: friend of mine from college who did not even know

754
00:57:18,395 --> 00:57:21,155
Speaker 1: I had gotten this job as a sportscaster, told me

755
00:57:21,195 --> 00:57:24,715
Speaker 1: he was driving in Buffalo listening to the news on

756
00:57:24,755 --> 00:57:27,955
Speaker 1: the radio at about quarter to six that night, August second,

757
00:57:28,235 --> 00:57:30,875
Speaker 1: he heard them say Munson had been killed with more

758
00:57:30,875 --> 00:57:33,635
Speaker 1: here's Keith Olberman in New York. And he said he

759
00:57:33,795 --> 00:57:36,875
Speaker 1: almost drove off the road and he wasn't sure if

760
00:57:36,915 --> 00:57:39,275
Speaker 1: it was because Munson was dead or because the guy

761
00:57:39,275 --> 00:57:43,995
Speaker 1: had said, here's Keith Alderman in New York. And I

762
00:57:44,035 --> 00:57:46,555
Speaker 1: do know my boss, Sam Rosen, who did the morning

763
00:57:46,635 --> 00:57:50,235
Speaker 1: shift and would have only gotten home from it at

764
00:57:50,235 --> 00:57:53,675
Speaker 1: around noon or one or two pm that day, so

765
00:57:53,955 --> 00:57:58,355
Speaker 1: only maybe four hours earlier. He came back into the

766
00:57:58,395 --> 00:58:01,475
Speaker 1: office that night to supervise things and to put together

767
00:58:01,555 --> 00:58:05,315
Speaker 1: a long memorial special to feed to the one thousand

768
00:58:05,315 --> 00:58:08,875
Speaker 1: stations that used our stuff. Boy was I glad to

769
00:58:08,915 --> 00:58:12,395
Speaker 1: see him until that is. He handed me a piece

770
00:58:12,435 --> 00:58:15,515
Speaker 1: of paper. These are the home phone numbers for lou

771
00:58:15,595 --> 00:58:25,835
Speaker 1: Panella and Roy White, Yankees outfielders Roy White, lou Panella.

772
00:58:27,115 --> 00:58:30,395
Speaker 1: Call them, Sam said, try to do interviews, be gentle,

773
00:58:31,035 --> 00:58:37,275
Speaker 1: just to even get one cut from them. Like Munson,

774
00:58:37,315 --> 00:58:39,795
Speaker 1: they had played in that game exactly one month before

775
00:58:39,795 --> 00:58:42,515
Speaker 1: my last as a fan, before I started to work

776
00:58:42,555 --> 00:58:47,315
Speaker 1: for UPI, lou Panella answered his own phone, and somehow

777
00:58:47,355 --> 00:58:48,755
Speaker 1: I asked him if he would talk to me for

778
00:58:48,795 --> 00:58:51,275
Speaker 1: two minutes, and he did, and almost immediately he burst

779
00:58:51,315 --> 00:58:55,595
Speaker 1: into tears. And this was such raw, immediate, brutal pain

780
00:58:56,035 --> 00:58:58,595
Speaker 1: evident in his voice. I did the only thing I

781
00:58:58,595 --> 00:59:01,035
Speaker 1: could think of. I said, listen, you shouldn't have to

782
00:59:01,075 --> 00:59:04,555
Speaker 1: do this all night. I'll make copies of this interview,

783
00:59:04,795 --> 00:59:06,635
Speaker 1: give it to the other radio networks so they will

784
00:59:06,715 --> 00:59:11,675
Speaker 1: leave you alone. Only after that did I think to

785
00:59:11,715 --> 00:59:14,715
Speaker 1: ask my boss if I could do that, and mercifully

786
00:59:14,915 --> 00:59:18,115
Speaker 1: Sam said it was when I called Roy White, and

787
00:59:18,195 --> 00:59:21,275
Speaker 1: Roy White was literally on the Yankees the day I

788
00:59:21,315 --> 00:59:23,715
Speaker 1: had become a baseball fan at the age of seven.

789
00:59:24,555 --> 00:59:26,835
Speaker 1: Roy White begged me to tell him that there'd been

790
00:59:26,875 --> 00:59:31,275
Speaker 1: some sort of mistake, that Thurman Munson was not dead,

791
00:59:32,115 --> 00:59:35,515
Speaker 1: and both he and Loupenella were blunt but gentle and

792
00:59:36,195 --> 00:59:39,995
Speaker 1: above and beyond courteous to me. And I did make

793
00:59:40,035 --> 00:59:41,915
Speaker 1: copies of both of the interviews, and I can see

794
00:59:41,955 --> 00:59:46,835
Speaker 1: myself handing a cassette to a guy from NBC named

795
00:59:46,875 --> 00:59:50,195
Speaker 1: Mike Leventhal ran a kind of a cartel, almost a

796
00:59:50,235 --> 00:59:55,915
Speaker 1: black market among New York radio sports reporters. So if

797
00:59:55,955 --> 01:00:00,035
Speaker 1: somehow you heard Lou Penella or Roy White talking about

798
01:00:00,035 --> 01:00:03,195
Speaker 1: Thurman Munsen's death on the dight night had happened to

799
01:00:03,235 --> 01:00:09,275
Speaker 1: the day after that my interview. I also remembered discovering,

800
01:00:09,315 --> 01:00:12,115
Speaker 1: after three or four hours of literally working NonStop, that

801
01:00:12,155 --> 01:00:16,315
Speaker 1: I had never really known what that meant. I remember

802
01:00:16,355 --> 01:00:18,395
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be done at eleven, but stayed

803
01:00:18,435 --> 01:00:22,675
Speaker 1: until one am, just barely making the last train back

804
01:00:22,715 --> 01:00:27,155
Speaker 1: to my folks house. I remember my boss Sam Rose

805
01:00:27,195 --> 01:00:29,835
Speaker 1: and talking to our stringer in San Francisco, his friend

806
01:00:29,915 --> 01:00:34,435
Speaker 1: Rob Navius, and saying, they're killing my team. We should

807
01:00:34,475 --> 01:00:40,515
Speaker 1: go to Mexico and smoke ourselves. Blind in my youthful

808
01:00:40,515 --> 01:00:43,235
Speaker 1: misunderstanding of how these things worked, I found myself coming

809
01:00:43,275 --> 01:00:47,075
Speaker 1: back to the thought that I had somehow failed failed.

810
01:00:47,075 --> 01:00:54,075
Speaker 1: Thurman Munson failed as fans failed by not telling somebody

811
01:00:54,715 --> 01:00:58,355
Speaker 1: about that Yankee fear from April that Rick Serone had

812
01:00:58,355 --> 01:01:01,795
Speaker 1: told me that Munson was not as good a pilot

813
01:01:01,835 --> 01:01:04,155
Speaker 1: as he thought he was, Although even then I asked myself,

814
01:01:04,195 --> 01:01:09,435
Speaker 1: who the hell you're going to tell? There are two

815
01:01:09,515 --> 01:01:12,155
Speaker 1: postscripts to my story of the twenty year old me

816
01:01:12,315 --> 01:01:16,475
Speaker 1: covering the night Thurman months and died. Twenty years later,

817
01:01:16,515 --> 01:01:18,875
Speaker 1: I was hosting Baseball's Game of the Week on Fox

818
01:01:20,235 --> 01:01:23,515
Speaker 1: and I asked my producer what we were doing for

819
01:01:23,635 --> 01:01:30,355
Speaker 1: the Munson anniversary, and he asked what anniversary. He was

820
01:01:30,395 --> 01:01:33,395
Speaker 1: younger than I was. I had to explain it to him.

821
01:01:34,035 --> 01:01:36,595
Speaker 1: You want to write something we can pre produce, like

822
01:01:36,675 --> 01:01:41,875
Speaker 1: a minute and a half ninety seconds. Well, the first

823
01:01:41,875 --> 01:01:44,235
Speaker 1: sportscast I did when it happened was one hundred and

824
01:01:44,315 --> 01:01:48,275
Speaker 1: twenty seconds ninety seconds. Sure, I did it. I didn't

825
01:01:48,275 --> 01:01:52,475
Speaker 1: think much of it. It was there, told the story.

826
01:01:52,675 --> 01:01:54,395
Speaker 1: There was a little emotion to it, but it was

827
01:01:55,115 --> 01:01:58,955
Speaker 1: mostly just the facts. Five years later, I was one

828
01:01:58,955 --> 01:02:01,515
Speaker 1: of the public address announcers at Old Timers Day at

829
01:02:01,595 --> 01:02:05,195
Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium, invited there by the public relations director of

830
01:02:05,235 --> 01:02:07,475
Speaker 1: the Yankees at the time, Rick Sarone, the same Rick

831
01:02:07,555 --> 01:02:11,555
Speaker 1: Sarone who had in April nineteen seventy nine told me

832
01:02:11,595 --> 01:02:16,035
Speaker 1: about Munson and the private planes. The twenty fifth anniversary

833
01:02:16,075 --> 01:02:21,115
Speaker 1: of Munson's death was days away and his widow, Diane

834
01:02:21,235 --> 01:02:24,635
Speaker 1: was there. We had never met. She saw me on

835
01:02:24,675 --> 01:02:28,435
Speaker 1: the field and raced up to me and embraced me.

836
01:02:29,995 --> 01:02:31,675
Speaker 1: That piece you did on him on the Game of

837
01:02:31,715 --> 01:02:35,075
Speaker 1: the Week, when was it five years ago, twentieth anniversary?

838
01:02:35,635 --> 01:02:41,875
Speaker 1: That was the best memorial I've ever seen to Thurman. Well,

839
01:02:41,915 --> 01:02:44,955
Speaker 1: she teered up, and I teared up, and I was stunned.

840
01:02:46,715 --> 01:02:48,995
Speaker 1: I told her about what that night in nineteen seventy

841
01:02:49,115 --> 01:02:50,795
Speaker 1: nine had been like for me. I said, I knew

842
01:02:50,835 --> 01:02:54,195
Speaker 1: it was almost insulting to tell her, but I thought

843
01:02:54,195 --> 01:02:57,675
Speaker 1: it was important somehow, and she hugged me again. It

844
01:02:57,795 --> 01:03:01,275
Speaker 1: was deeply moving, and to this day it remains deeply moving.

845
01:03:03,995 --> 01:03:10,475
Speaker 1: The other PostScript I only learned of in twenty twenty one.

846
01:03:10,635 --> 01:03:14,035
Speaker 1: For it forever, the reporter covering the New York Rangers

847
01:03:14,115 --> 01:03:16,755
Speaker 1: hockey team for the newspaper of the New York Post

848
01:03:16,795 --> 01:03:21,955
Speaker 1: has been Larry Brooks. I had forgotten that the year

849
01:03:21,995 --> 01:03:24,515
Speaker 1: Thurman Munson was killed nineteen seventy nine, Larry was a

850
01:03:24,635 --> 01:03:28,475
Speaker 1: very young beat reporter for the Post, covering not New

851
01:03:28,555 --> 01:03:32,275
Speaker 1: York Rangers hockey but New York Yankees baseball. And somebody

852
01:03:32,555 --> 01:03:35,395
Speaker 1: sent me a clipping from the New York Post from Saturday,

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Speaker 1: months in plane crash, and it is almost beyond belief.

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Speaker 1: Every time I see it, I read it again to

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Speaker 1: make sure that last time I hadn't hallucinated it. Larry's

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Speaker 1: story began quote reports of Thurman Munson's death are exaggerated,

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Speaker 1: for of course he didn't mean to use that. Munson's

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Speaker 1: knees had been giving him trouble since the previous season,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of speculation as to whether or

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Speaker 1: not Munson's career as a catcher was over, and then

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Speaker 1: baseman or something. That's what the story was about. That's

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Speaker 1: what the death reference was, to the death of his

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Speaker 1: catching career. But the Larry Brooks story also included an

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Speaker 1: even more jaw dropping quote. Asked about the rumors he

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Speaker 1: might not catch again this year, Munson said, I don't

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Speaker 1: how his knees felt, Munson said, quote sore, real, real sore.

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Speaker 1: Hey Munson added, you might be seeing my last hurrah.

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Speaker 1: Larry Brooks told me that story haunted him every day since,

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Speaker 1: and now it haunts me. I've done all the damage

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Speaker 1: I can do here. Thank you for listening. Most of

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Speaker 1: Everything else was, as always my fault. So that's countdown

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Speaker 1: for today. Day two hundred and seven of America held

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Speaker 1: of his lane duck and lame brained term unless he

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Speaker 1: is removed sooner by MAGA and Jeffrey Epstein where the

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Speaker 1: actuarial tables or poutin at the meeting in Alaska, Rusher,

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Speaker 1: wherever it is. I'm Keith Olberman. Good morning, good afternoon,

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