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Speaker 2: Bootleg CAB Podcasts Special guests here. Finally he's here. Hanuman
Speaker 2: Kind is in the building. What's up?
Speaker 1: Brother? Was good? Was good? Man?
Speaker 2: Uh? Give me? So I've had some people tell me,
Speaker 2: are you like, did you spend some time in Houston
Speaker 2: or something?
Speaker 1: I did? So?
Speaker 3: Are you like, where were you born?
Speaker 1: I was born in India.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're born in India. But you you like, like,
Speaker 2: what was your Houston timeline in life?
Speaker 1: My Houston timeline was from the fourth grade till first year,
Speaker 1: like university.
Speaker 2: So you're damn near h town yeah and through yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I think when I first met you had a
Speaker 2: Rockets jersey on I did.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, yeah, so you're a Rockets. Good season too, man,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I already know Dune. You guys got just
Speaker 1: like jailing green with this ups.
Speaker 3: And you guys have too many young players that they do.
Speaker 1: But it's just a defensive team, man. So it's just
Speaker 1: it's just so different than.
Speaker 3: Because what's the kid's name is it Reed?
Speaker 2: The white boy you guys drafted, he don't even play,
Speaker 2: Cam Whitmore don't play.
Speaker 1: But they's just just so much talent, man, that just
Speaker 1: it's just a team that has such a high ceiling.
Speaker 2: Thompson's so nice, so good man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fox, that's so good man. Yeah, dude, defensive offensive,
Speaker 1: he just picks up his three point game and it's
Speaker 1: game over.
Speaker 2: Uh. Did you used to hate Dylan Brooks before he
Speaker 2: played for y'all? Yes, me too. Yeah, so I used
Speaker 2: to hate Grayson Allen and then we got Grayson Allen
Speaker 2: and I don't hate him as much.
Speaker 1: But you realize, like how much of an impact that
Speaker 1: kind of a player makes. It's just insane. Bro, you
Speaker 1: can't help but love him now.
Speaker 2: He's like the kind of guy like you like hate
Speaker 2: when he's not on your team, but you gotta love
Speaker 2: love on your team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like a Patrick Beverley types.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like even Draymond Yeah exactly. I saw you
Speaker 2: hate the Warriors, me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I already Warriors. Oh my god. Yesterday they asked
Speaker 1: me if I would take a picture with Steph. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's a great shoot in the world. Yeah, of all time,
Speaker 1: I got respect.
Speaker 2: I mean like I mean, yeah, I always say there's
Speaker 2: like sports hate and then like you meet people in
Speaker 2: real life, like you guys are just like I make
Speaker 2: Draymond he was the nicest guy, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also like you can't deny greatness, right, It's
Speaker 1: just like it's so in your face. Man, he's just incredible.
Speaker 2: I have just you know, you know what I hated
Speaker 2: was just the uh the I always look at the
Speaker 2: Warriors is I don't know if you we're familiar with
Speaker 2: wrestling or w W, but they're like John Cena, like
Speaker 2: generic fans of the sport, just loved the Warriors and
Speaker 2: little kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny you mentioned that, because you know, the
Speaker 1: NBA has been picking up around the world, right, and
Speaker 1: we're in India. It's just all of a sudden, everybody's
Speaker 1: a Warriors fan. It's just like, yo, he's just chill,
Speaker 1: like you relax on this and that too. Being a
Speaker 1: Rockets fan, you're just like, oh my god, man, this
Speaker 1: is a little bit too much.
Speaker 2: How heartbreaking was I remember being drunk at a pool
Speaker 2: watching you guys go like one for I remember what
Speaker 2: was that game with Chris Paul and Harden were you guys?
Speaker 2: I don't remember how many threes in a row you missed.
Speaker 2: I think it was like twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven.
Speaker 2: It was insane. Yeah, that was that was the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the if we had if we had
Speaker 1: gone past them, we would have won the chip, Like.
Speaker 2: You guys would have made five more threes or something.
Speaker 2: The probability have been missing that many in a rows.
Speaker 1: It was just ridiculous. It's like all the misses we
Speaker 1: could have ever done, just the one added up in
Speaker 1: just one like quarter one quarter. It's at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was. It was so heartbreaking because who
Speaker 2: did who was it the Raptors that year that ended up?
Speaker 2: That was the Raptors year? Right?
Speaker 1: No? I think Golden State one that year? No, right, No,
Speaker 1: I think that was the Raptors year that twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: that was the Raptors. Was the Raptors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys would have smoked the Raptors.
Speaker 1: We would have beat the Raptors for so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have a place in your heart for Harden.
Speaker 1: I do. I do, no matter where, Like it's for sure,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just this is incredible.
Speaker 2: Man, second greatest rocket of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I put Jason McGrady up there too,
Speaker 1: like because Tracey mcgra McGrady was what who got me
Speaker 1: into basketball?
Speaker 2: Like would you put McGrady over yow?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, point just because I just enjoyed watching him
Speaker 1: play just offensively. He was just such such a force. R.
Speaker 2: Gredy's like the kind of player who, like the just
Speaker 2: man if he would have had like a you know
Speaker 2: them injuries, man, all time, all time great score.
Speaker 1: Just so good man, so fluid and so just so
Speaker 1: explosive when you need it to be. It's just an
Speaker 1: incredible man.
Speaker 2: It's like t Mac. It's like Grant Hill Penny, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Brandon Roy, like guys who like should have like.
Speaker 1: It's a great That was a great time for basketball.
Speaker 2: Actually, and he had fire as Adidas.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. Man, there's everybody wanted them.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: It was just it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I can only imagine. Yeah, then you had yow shout
Speaker 2: outs at yao ming man.
Speaker 1: Yeah man, that would We were supposed to win that
Speaker 1: year too. Like it was just a crazy team man.
Speaker 2: You know, talk to me, man. Obviously you know what
Speaker 2: I appreciated. What obviously got got a I think what
Speaker 2: kind of sucked a lot of people into check you
Speaker 2: out was like just the level of first of all,
Speaker 2: the big Dogs record was fire, but just the visual
Speaker 2: was so crazy. And then this new video that you
Speaker 2: have is even crazier, Like what is your thought process
Speaker 2: the creative process to these visuals man like and.
Speaker 1: Hmm, see I have I'm blessed to have a team
Speaker 1: of folks that always tries to push the envelope and
Speaker 1: whatever we do, right, I think the process is like
Speaker 1: just being open and receptive to as much and whatever
Speaker 1: it is that we feel when it comes to what
Speaker 1: it is we're making. Right. My boy Bitjoy, who's the
Speaker 1: director of everything I do, He's just a visionary, so
Speaker 1: he comes up with a lot of craziness and I'm
Speaker 1: the one who, like who figures it out if we
Speaker 1: can actually do this or not, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And that balance is just found because visually there's just
Speaker 1: so much you can do man generally like and you know,
Speaker 1: like music is just a great medium if you're trying
Speaker 1: to communicate when it comes to sound right or visuals,
Speaker 1: but as of late, visuals has just been kind of
Speaker 1: just dying down right, no one percent paying attention to us.
Speaker 2: Russ had an interviewed recently, maybe like two years ago now,
Speaker 2: where he was talking about like the ROI on like
Speaker 2: music videos just isn't what it used to be. But
Speaker 2: I feel like if you do it the right way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't we couldn't give I didn't
Speaker 1: give ship about ROI. For me, it was like we
Speaker 1: just loved doing it right. It was so important because
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm getting to make music and make
Speaker 1: videos and like live off of that and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a ball the time when to put.
Speaker 2: Mailed it in on the Big Dogs video, it might
Speaker 2: not have I mean, it's a great record, but I
Speaker 2: feel like the visuals as important as the music.
Speaker 1: It leaves an impression, right, I mean it just because
Speaker 1: you know, you can see how much you can see
Speaker 1: the intensity of how what I was going through during
Speaker 1: the shoot. And I feel like other people that a
Speaker 1: motorcycle wild enough. I couldn't get on the motorcycles whether
Speaker 1: like that many days though? Too much? Was that one night,
Speaker 1: two nights shoot that was one day one day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't be in that for two days in a row.
Speaker 1: That's that's demanding for su Yeah. Yeah, we got through
Speaker 1: it though.
Speaker 2: And then uh, for you, is it cool to kind
Speaker 2: of see like the the TikTok virality of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't have TikTok in India, so it
Speaker 1: was all based off of Instagram and what we're hearing
Speaker 1: is happening on it. So you're like, oh, I heard
Speaker 1: it's going like yeah, I'm hearing about things and it's like.
Speaker 2: TikTok in India? Is it because they got a China
Speaker 2: thing going?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's just this just wow.
Speaker 2: Do you guys have your own like is there because
Speaker 2: I know, like, uh, certain countries will have like their
Speaker 2: own version of apps, Like is there is there something
Speaker 2: similar out there that's like just.
Speaker 1: I think most people just use Instagram and there's like
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, is there anything else?
Speaker 2: Nor YouTube?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean of course YouTube, but I think YouTube
Speaker 1: is just like its own thing. Yeah, shorts came recently,
Speaker 1: right right, and yeah, but YouTube's always been consistent. Man,
Speaker 1: It's always been a force in India.
Speaker 2: Right Yeah. I feel like it's the number one music
Speaker 2: consumption app in the world worldwide. It is in the States,
Speaker 2: it's probably Spotify or whatever, but worldwide.
Speaker 1: Like everyone means YouTube. Yeah, I mean even if it's
Speaker 1: not music, it's my algorithm is so fire at this point,
Speaker 1: just like what's.
Speaker 2: In the algorithms, just like if you.
Speaker 1: Open basketball and also like some philosophy and its just
Speaker 1: just random, random shit. The music, tons of it, right,
Speaker 1: just visuals that I enjoy and breaking down music. Man,
Speaker 1: just so much cool shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you're a big basketball head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean as much as I can be on
Speaker 1: that side of the world. The timings are.
Speaker 2: Terrible sometimes, Yeah, what time you have to watch a game?
Speaker 1: Like six four in the morning, six in the morning
Speaker 1: if you're trying to catch it live. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you don't catch it live, it even if you
Speaker 1: don't see that, you can do the settings on the
Speaker 1: NBA app to like all right, you don't see the score.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see the score.
Speaker 1: But if you're not really watching it live, it just
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same feeling, you know what I mean? Right,
Speaker 1: And it always somehow like you open up your phone
Speaker 1: and just like some something or something has popped.
Speaker 2: Up the open Instagram or Twitter. You're like, oh man,
Speaker 2: why I mean yeah, yeah, when I'm a big wrestling fan,
Speaker 2: like I was, purposely usually I'm busy when pay per
Speaker 2: views are going on, so I'll purposely try to stay
Speaker 2: off my phone. Yeah, but it never it never works.
Speaker 1: You know, I hear this wrestling is popping off as
Speaker 1: a late but the thing is, like I stop watching
Speaker 1: a while, but I was really into it too. But
Speaker 1: then yeah, you know, right when Johnsena was like picking
Speaker 1: up and it was just his era was like full swing,
Speaker 1: is when I kind of just repeed it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, uh, from attitude era to I've been.
Speaker 1: Watching since I was like twelve, so I get that.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe younger, fuck yeah, younger. Yeah. Yeah, it's very
Speaker 2: it's a niche. I mean, it's blown.
Speaker 1: Up though, it is. I hear, I hear. It's having
Speaker 1: a renaissance. It's having its own.
Speaker 2: You guys have like, yo, what's crazy? Is like in
Speaker 2: like Netflix in India's held a different in Netflix here.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, Like I'll use the VPN and sometimes
Speaker 2: I just select random countries just to see what kind
Speaker 2: of good ship, you know. I'm like, damn. Sometimes it's
Speaker 2: like shit that's in theaters in the US is already
Speaker 2: on a Netflix.
Speaker 1: It is. It is, which is sick. But it's also
Speaker 1: like the other way around. Sometimes y'all just get access
Speaker 1: and everybody's talking about it. They're just giving and then
Speaker 1: it's like y'all need to relax because we don't have
Speaker 1: it yet. But you guys also like in first world
Speaker 1: access even out.
Speaker 2: Here like we'll get like like when because obviously Netflix
Speaker 2: has like a lot of or Netflix originals that are
Speaker 2: with Indian.
Speaker 1: Actors, and yeah, the same if you're trying to tap
Speaker 1: into some Indian shows, you know, movies and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Bollywood industry is so insane, like
Speaker 2: it is, man there, Like there's I forget that, I
Speaker 2: watched a documentary about one of your guys actors, I
Speaker 2: forget his name, but this guy's like Tom Cruise. He's
Speaker 2: like fucking one of the biggest stars on a planet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well paid, man, everybody's getting paid.
Speaker 2: I feel like most Americans, like we only saw like
Speaker 2: slum Dog Millionaire, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that shit was fire.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a great movie, but it also
Speaker 1: you know it just if that's the reference, you know,
Speaker 1: that's not really it, right, I mean I'm sure that,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's elements, but it's like an overly dramatized
Speaker 1: idea of India, right, which of course there's a lot
Speaker 1: of problems within the country, but it's also like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of other things there too, which is what
Speaker 1: we try and show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's interesting with any place, right, like you, like,
Speaker 2: there's people who think that they're mind made up about
Speaker 2: the United States because they see like whatever homeless problems
Speaker 2: like certain parts of LA might have, or they might
Speaker 2: think everyone's like super fucking racist, and you know, but
Speaker 2: it's like this is a giant country. It's the same
Speaker 2: thing with India. It's like people like might have their
Speaker 2: mind made up about what India is like, but it's like, bro,
Speaker 2: it's a dynamic place.
Speaker 1: Like exactly that man, exactly. And the thing is it's
Speaker 1: just important, you know, conversations like these are just generally
Speaker 1: getting people to get out of that bubble. Every place
Speaker 1: makes you get inside your bubble, which is fine, Like
Speaker 1: people got to live, you know, it's sometimes you only
Speaker 1: got to focus on what's important to you, what's working
Speaker 1: for you, or what's you know, paying you, getting you
Speaker 1: buy on the day to day and everything else is
Speaker 1: a distraction, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's important too to have like somebody who
Speaker 2: kind of can represent like, you know, what what what
Speaker 2: y'all's country is on, like on the hip hop side,
Speaker 2: you know, it's important, man, Like, well, I remember we
Speaker 2: obviously where the boys or what was the song with
Speaker 2: a pajabi seeing Jay Z back in the day.
Speaker 1: M m, yeah, that the jay Z record. That was hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard.
Speaker 2: That was that hard? Is that guys still rapping?
Speaker 1: Yeah, legend.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like also, people like got to understand, like,
Speaker 2: you guys are like one of the biggest populations in
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 1: The biggest right now, the biggest kind of upsid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's like some places too where it's like
Speaker 2: the population density is insane right where it's like there's
Speaker 2: just so many people in like a small space. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people just also, I mean this is
Speaker 1: a worldwide phenomenon, but like people come to major cities,
Speaker 1: you know, like wherever you are, you're from the village
Speaker 1: or you're from you know, tier two cities as well.
Speaker 1: People come to bigger cities out there and they just
Speaker 1: hope for a better life. Man. You can see that
Speaker 1: over here. That's like New York and Lay super populated too,
Speaker 1: I mean not to the level have it, but then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like there's like people who are from like
Speaker 2: Texas exactly. Let's say people.
Speaker 3: Who are from Odessa, Texas.
Speaker 2: Maybe they want to move to Houston and chase the
Speaker 2: limelight and then they end up you know, sipping lean
Speaker 2: and hanging out with Sauce Waka.
Speaker 1: You know what is life? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Uh, I mean the other thing. Are you full time
Speaker 2: in India.
Speaker 1: Now most of the time? Yeah, I lived there.
Speaker 2: Did you were you able ever to like tap in
Speaker 2: with the strip club scene in Houston at all? Because
Speaker 2: to me, it's the number one strip club city in America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard. You know, I left before I could
Speaker 1: really get into it, before you could get in. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of them before and it set
Speaker 1: my you know, my intentions very high, and then it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, time to leave the country. So yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm very well aware I'm going to Houston at
Speaker 1: the end of this trip.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you gotta go, man, you gotta go.
Speaker 1: There's they got that time being lost time. Man, I
Speaker 1: got to make up for it to go to Trailberger. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I already went last time.
Speaker 2: Oh you did?
Speaker 1: That was great? Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trail Burger is a thing. What I mean, Houston's
Speaker 2: the best I was out there. We're you got to
Speaker 2: go hunting.
Speaker 1: I do, man, that I've actually done, but not successfully.
Speaker 1: But you know, I was tried that out when I
Speaker 1: was younger too. It's like it's amazing. It's home Michie
Speaker 1: could do in Texas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we were in a helicopter shooting pigs.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you did one of those.
Speaker 2: I see those on YouTube with Mexico.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's fire Man. That's awesome.
Speaker 2: I've never hunted or killed in an animal in my life,
Speaker 2: and they convinced me into the benefits. They essentially were
Speaker 2: like these pigs are They're like vermin. And they also
Speaker 2: they killed they killed dogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they killed people's pets. Those are some big fucking says.
Speaker 2: You mean, if I kill one of these pigs, I
Speaker 2: could be saving a dog. And I mean I'm all
Speaker 2: about saving dogs.
Speaker 1: John Rambo Right now.
Speaker 2: You know this new video it kind of showcases uh
Speaker 2: a martial arts style that's based in India.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, multiple martial arts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, the ship is wild. Like I like this
Speaker 2: new video then better than the Big Dogs video because
Speaker 2: it's just so like it's intense, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot going on in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we tried, you know, because the song itself
Speaker 1: was like the sounds and the energy that it was
Speaker 1: from me, It was was like very rooted with the land,
Speaker 1: so and you know it has that spirit of like
Speaker 1: you know that we try to showcase individuals and so
Speaker 1: there's just like like you were saying, there's just a
Speaker 1: lot to lot to the land. So there we try
Speaker 1: to depict styles from you know, different air corners, Yeah,
Speaker 1: different areas and that too, like we're limited to however
Speaker 1: long the video is, right, of course, we're able to
Speaker 1: do so much. But we you know, we tried it
Speaker 1: and this is that song that we thought we could
Speaker 1: try because you know, sonically, it's just what drew us
Speaker 1: more to that, right, you know what I mean? So yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we it was martial arts and there was also some
Speaker 1: like you know, old dancing styles that are like you know,
Speaker 1: rooted in tradition and have a lot of lore behind it,
Speaker 1: you know, so and that's like more specific to South India.
Speaker 1: So we tried everything, man.
Speaker 2: No, I mean execution was insane. Is the is like
Speaker 2: your fan base out there like excited that you're kind
Speaker 2: of showcasing because it's obvious that you have a you
Speaker 2: do have the attention of like the rest of the
Speaker 2: world as well with music. You know, they're pretty excited
Speaker 2: you're able to kind of showcase the culture and they are.
Speaker 1: Man, you know, I I'm just like as it can
Speaker 1: be a lot sometimes too, but it's also like.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, cause you're like the guide worldwide.
Speaker 1: You're the guy asked for this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's also like at the end of it, it's
Speaker 1: like I do have a you know I had I
Speaker 1: had the perspective from a lot of other places as well, right,
Speaker 1: So it's just not strictly from the land, which is
Speaker 1: like a like which is why I try and do
Speaker 1: it the way that I do, which is unique to myself.
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's like so much that is
Speaker 1: there that you see in art that's going to be
Speaker 1: coming from there as well. You know, hopefully it's just
Speaker 1: to get eyes to more that's happening there, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like this is a part of it,
Speaker 1: and while I figure out what I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: in my life and you know what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say overall, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: When you because when you kind of picture rap name,
Speaker 2: because like I remember when old dirty Bastards started going
Speaker 2: by Big Baby Jesus, he got a lot of like
Speaker 2: what was was it, like, uh, did you get any
Speaker 2: blowback for for your name?
Speaker 1: It's a great question. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of folks who don't take kindly to the fact that
Speaker 1: there's like a sense of spiritualism tied in with the name,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But that's why India is
Speaker 1: not the same as the rest of the world. Man,
Speaker 1: Like you have to move carefully if you're doing these
Speaker 1: kind of things and so and that's my journey, that's
Speaker 1: my battle to figure out and you know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to be cautious with that. Definitely, we're figuring.
Speaker 2: Out, yeah, like you kind of dealing with it in
Speaker 2: real time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a at the end of it,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just I'm just human, man, I'm just a
Speaker 1: dude who's trying to make music and you know that
Speaker 1: happy to be the name that that that you.
Speaker 2: Know for people who aren't solidified extremely like a because
Speaker 2: a lot of Americans don't understand break down your name
Speaker 2: and just kind of the meaning.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, mankind is like a combination of a little
Speaker 1: bit of my world and the rest of the world, right,
Speaker 1: the mankind obviously, butan is like you know, uh, a
Speaker 1: deity and and you know it's a well known deity
Speaker 1: in our from India, right right, and rooted in a
Speaker 1: lot of history and law, and so it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I just kind of just it was just a combination
Speaker 1: of two things. And and so that's why when you
Speaker 1: bring out that conversation, you know, people you know how
Speaker 1: you know how it is when it comes to.
Speaker 2: Certain people are faith. Yeah, here there's people who are
Speaker 2: crazy faith, ye know. And then yeah, there's people are
Speaker 2: kind of nonchalant about it.
Speaker 1: Conservative side can get very very intense. Man.
Speaker 2: You guys got your own servative side out there.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's you know, at the end of it, like
Speaker 1: it's a very human thing for sure. Right it's not
Speaker 1: America and this is the world.
Speaker 2: There's people who are very conservative, especially when it comes
Speaker 2: to religion. And wherever country you're.
Speaker 1: In, Yeah, it's assault man, Like it definitely. It can
Speaker 1: you know, pull us back a lot. And I don't
Speaker 1: know these things, these things, I guess they just take
Speaker 1: time and it's just a natural occurrence because faith is
Speaker 1: something that it's sometimes it's the only thing people have
Speaker 1: get me, like when all else is failed. Because you know,
Speaker 1: the world's been going through a lot as I like
Speaker 1: I see it in.
Speaker 2: America, especially with the tariffs everywhere.
Speaker 1: Man and that's affecting everybody.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you guys are one of our biggest
Speaker 2: trading partners.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And so.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder, Man, we don't know yet. I might
Speaker 1: not be able to go into the country next time.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But I mean, what do y'all. Y'all make a lot.
Speaker 1: For us, A lot, man, I mean we make a
Speaker 1: lot for the world. No, for sure.
Speaker 2: It's like one of the biggest like manufacturing countries in
Speaker 2: the world. It's They'm near India and China.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Now That's what I was also saying is
Speaker 1: that sometimes during all this, you know, people figuring out,
Speaker 1: like we have the comfort of having these kind of conversations,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't have that. All they
Speaker 1: have is faith, Like when all else has failed them,
Speaker 1: at least they know, oh, there's one thing that hasn't
Speaker 1: and that's about that's kind of hard to like navigate around, right,
Speaker 1: Because that's what you mean by like, oh, they're very
Speaker 1: serious about.
Speaker 2: This, because you know, that's the only thing you got.
Speaker 1: When the world's let you down and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: but there's like I think someone's listening.
Speaker 2: You know. It's inspiring too because you'll see people like,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, shout out to everybody who's dealing with
Speaker 2: what they're dealing with in Gaza. But to see like
Speaker 2: those people go through this ship that they're going through
Speaker 2: and still have the you know, the resolve to have
Speaker 2: like a bright outlook on the end of it, and
Speaker 2: it's like, man, like that's that's it's sad, but it's beautiful,
Speaker 2: Like to see the people talk and like the kids
Speaker 2: are still like in and it's just you know, it's heartbreaking,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: But at the end of it, when you say kids,
Speaker 1: there's just they still got to be kids, right. I
Speaker 1: imagine going through that. Imagine what kind of what it
Speaker 1: will build in those kids for in the future when
Speaker 1: they're like in lifetime, losing people in front of them,
Speaker 1: you know, and being treated that way, Like, how do
Speaker 1: you think like that will affect them? Right? You got
Speaker 1: his faith? This is just it's just it's terrible, man,
Speaker 1: it's super just like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, it's it's it's a it's a sad situation.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, hopefully they come to a conclusion as soon
Speaker 1: as possible.
Speaker 3: We're in a very crazy space in the world.
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. So uh. The other guy who
Speaker 2: is very very also a Texas guy, my boy Akash
Speaker 2: from a Flagrant. He's he's done a great job of
Speaker 2: using like stand up to kind of like showcase like
Speaker 2: Indian culture. And there's one thing about you guys. You
Speaker 2: guys got the wedding thing figured out, Like his wedding
Speaker 2: is insane. And then he was like I was like
Speaker 2: talked about it a little bit and he's like, it's
Speaker 2: just like a like my wedding. He was like, my
Speaker 2: wedding was like a middle of the road Indian wedding.
Speaker 2: He's like Indian weddings like they don't funk around.
Speaker 1: They like, I mean, if you're lucky enough, you have
Speaker 1: a big wedding, right, And I think that that's what
Speaker 1: they like. Families kind of look forward to the bringing
Speaker 1: together a family. I think like there's a lot of family.
Speaker 3: It's such a family oriented culture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I feel like, you know, the Western world
Speaker 2: has gotten away from you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like that's what you'll find
Speaker 1: it here and there, because you see huge weddings that
Speaker 1: are out here too, right for sure, and it just depends.
Speaker 1: It's just like once again, it's just more rooted into
Speaker 1: the culture and traditions of folks no matter where, like north, south,
Speaker 1: east west. So they go at it.
Speaker 2: You know what, what what were your parents first thought
Speaker 2: when you told them you wanted to do music?
Speaker 1: The fuck is this?
Speaker 2: Because I know Indian parents are pretty serious.
Speaker 1: You know. I mean they can be definitely where my
Speaker 1: parents are all school of shit. You know, I was
Speaker 1: raised by the cane. But it was I mean at
Speaker 1: first it's like, yeah, what the fuck is this? But
Speaker 1: also it's like what are we going to do? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean this guy at the end, they were kind
Speaker 1: of just like if he sucks up, he sucks up. Man.
Speaker 1: Like it worked out luckily because, like I said, I
Speaker 1: think it's because, like I was, they had been able
Speaker 1: to travel and see the world.
Speaker 2: It's like full context.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad they didn't just cut me off. I
Speaker 1: mean because it's like at the end of it, like
Speaker 1: I would have still done what I was, what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do, but you know it is it's for them.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, they don't understand it.
Speaker 2: Right, right what uh? What kind of inspired like like
Speaker 2: obviously growing up in Houston as an adolescent, like was
Speaker 2: that what was was there any like what would you
Speaker 2: say would be your biggest influences hip hop wise? That
Speaker 2: kind of pushed you into the into the culture.
Speaker 1: Of course, man, just like the music that was around
Speaker 1: me at the time, Like when the city of Houston
Speaker 1: as well. I think it's just a great place for
Speaker 1: hip hop for sure, so the sounds of the South
Speaker 1: as a whole, right, but also just like loving the
Speaker 1: art woman going into like you know, just the music
Speaker 1: of the nineties in the eighties and just like listening
Speaker 1: to it properly, you know, and you get just like
Speaker 1: kind of going into it with you know, whatever access
Speaker 1: that we had back then, you know, with our dial
Speaker 1: up internet and ship.
Speaker 2: And what are what's some of your favorite albums ever?
Speaker 1: Albums?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: I mean A Madic is definitely up there right there,
Speaker 1: Oh Fire beautiful. I Actually more than the albums, I
Speaker 1: really like mixtapes. You remember when Chamellionaire was.
Speaker 2: Putting mix changing Click Yeah, the mixtape Messiah is mixtape
Speaker 2: MESSI Bro.
Speaker 3: Chamillionaire's mixtape Run was so crazy good.
Speaker 2: Chamellionaire And when we talk about Houston because I know
Speaker 2: he's kind of stepped back and he's an investor now,
Speaker 2: but I feel like we got it, Like he's one
Speaker 2: of them one if.
Speaker 1: He that baller wrap that he was just so good at. Man,
Speaker 1: it was just amazing. That's that's kind of shit that
Speaker 1: was around, you know. And then also like low Wayne
Speaker 1: when he's dropping all of his mixtapes too, there's like
Speaker 1: a great time for mixtapes, man, just music.
Speaker 3: Mixtape era of music was just crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man just had people worried what song it was
Speaker 1: gonna hop on, you know, like just destroy people.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, Wayne, I feel like there's like songs
Speaker 2: that Wayne just took, like on the No Ceiling Ship,
Speaker 2: where it's like you can't hear the normal version of
Speaker 2: the song anymore, and I'd be like, yeah, but the
Speaker 2: Wayne version.
Speaker 1: There's still like versions of which I just was just like,
Speaker 1: this is the only version I know, And randomly the
Speaker 1: actual original song.
Speaker 2: Like the swag Swag Surfing like kind of came back.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I just want to hear the Wayne
Speaker 2: swag swag surfan is great.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, that was great, man, I want.
Speaker 2: To hear the No Ceilings freestyle.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: Was was for you, like the you you kind of
Speaker 2: paid homage to Project Pad a bit with your flow
Speaker 2: on Big Dogs. Yeah, what was that because you guys
Speaker 2: you guys have had communication obviously, absolutely man, that I mean,
Speaker 2: I thought that was cool because it's it was you.
Speaker 2: You like did his flow perfectly on like a world's scale,
Speaker 2: and like Project Pat's one of the most underrated artists
Speaker 2: of like MC's ever.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but so it's like so impactful man, for sure. Everywhere. Man,
Speaker 1: Now it's type Man. I'm like, we're you know, we're
Speaker 1: we in touch and we you know, we're working on things,
Speaker 1: which which I think is amazing. I think actually three
Speaker 1: six Mafia is playing Coachella.
Speaker 2: They are they are yeah three six at coch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's going to be an interesting thing just
Speaker 1: to be able to see him, man. And it's very cool, bro,
Speaker 1: because I think I had to do it right because
Speaker 1: that's what came naturally to the song when I was
Speaker 1: making it, that kind of flow, and then it was
Speaker 1: just like at the end of it, it's like got
Speaker 1: to shout them out, man, Like I literally have it
Speaker 1: inside the song because it's just it's only right, you know.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just to impact of hip hop, man, for sure.
Speaker 1: Music at the times, bro, Like three six Mafia was
Speaker 1: so big at the time when we were listening to music. Man.
Speaker 2: So, how excited you about Coachella. It's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Crazy shit, man, Yeah, I'm excited. You can see it.
Speaker 1: I mean it's one of those things. First show in
Speaker 1: America is that. Oh so we're gonna go.
Speaker 2: And do that's crazy, that's your first show in America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the fuck? I'm feeling it. Might as well
Speaker 1: go big, go hard to go home, and I'm not home,
Speaker 1: so you gotta go hard.
Speaker 2: Man. Do you have any any any special plans for
Speaker 2: your set, any anything like anything, Like.
Speaker 1: You know, we got we got some things lined up,
Speaker 1: like especially you know, when we're coming from there, we
Speaker 1: want to bring some ideas and and and sounds from
Speaker 1: that side of the world. But I got some folks
Speaker 1: that I want to also bring up from this side
Speaker 1: of the world and showcase and just like you know,
Speaker 1: kind of just bring wells together. Man. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw your set in Thailand and you killed it.
Speaker 2: And like people don't realize, like Thailand is like there's
Speaker 2: like a lot of people from India and Thailand. Yeah,
Speaker 2: very much, like right there, so like you were you
Speaker 2: had a like people were fucking with you in the
Speaker 2: crowd there, Like I was out in the crowd the
Speaker 2: highest fuck watching your ship.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate it. Man, it was fun. Thailand was tight,
Speaker 1: you know, for more reasons, and that's the show was.
Speaker 2: No, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's amazingat I mean some of the best food absolutely,
Speaker 1: and people are.
Speaker 2: So so yeah, dude, the best thing about Thailand is
Speaker 2: like the street food, like yeah, absolutely by like that.
Speaker 2: It's so cheap, like it's it's the best, just delicious man.
Speaker 3: You you guys are known for your street food.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is what.
Speaker 2: Is like the go to uh if I'm if I
Speaker 2: go to India for the first time.
Speaker 1: Depends on where in India though, Okay, like where your
Speaker 1: food like from Keralin like a like a bottom booty
Speaker 1: which is like I don't know, like the banana fritters,
Speaker 1: and there's like there's also like things obviously you hear about,
Speaker 1: like whether it's like a samosa or whether there's like
Speaker 1: there's like it just depends on where you look. But
Speaker 1: if you're going to like South India to be like that,
Speaker 1: what else from Karalin. Oh, but Shot is in South
Speaker 1: Indian man is it? Yeah? But Shot is also like
Speaker 1: it's like just like quick easy, you know, food that
Speaker 1: they'll quickly make.
Speaker 3: But it's these guys go viral on TikTok.
Speaker 1: They yeah, yeah, it's for better or for worse.
Speaker 3: I mean it looks fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I see it, man, you should. You know,
Speaker 1: when you come down, I'll introduce you some good spots.
Speaker 1: Are you working on an album, working on a mixtape?
Speaker 2: Mixtape?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How many? First of all, how how far into the
Speaker 2: process are you using it?
Speaker 1: We're pretty close to finishing it, you know. I'm just
Speaker 1: like adding little touches and stuff and figuring out how
Speaker 1: to go about it. It's my first like project that
Speaker 1: I'm doing like this, so you know, I'm trying to features.
Speaker 2: You get still waiting on something to come over.
Speaker 1: The I do? Yes, yeah, absolutely, yeah everything. You know
Speaker 1: how it is when you're making these kind of things, bro.
Speaker 2: It's like, damn, well, will they send this back in
Speaker 2: time to make the album?
Speaker 1: Especially because I'm like the time difference is like eleven
Speaker 1: and a half hours. It's like completely the opposite time.
Speaker 1: So but it's just like communication once.
Speaker 2: You cross that to that side of the world. You
Speaker 2: don't realize like, oh, it's already tomorrow. Yeah, if you're
Speaker 2: in the like us, it's tomorrow. So when we fly here,
Speaker 2: we actually like gain a whole gain a day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's kind of nuts.
Speaker 3: But when you go out there, you're you. When you
Speaker 3: go back home, you lose a whole day.
Speaker 1: Bro, It's nuts. Like we leave on the fifth and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's the seventh insane. It's so
Speaker 1: it's so weird, man. And then like again, the amount
Speaker 1: of time that it takes you to get out of
Speaker 1: this jet lag.
Speaker 2: I'm just the jet lag is what I have. You
Speaker 2: real fucked up.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm sure you felt that after Thailand too, right.
Speaker 2: Dude, going there. I was there for like twelve days
Speaker 2: because I had some business with Wiz out there before
Speaker 2: rolling Loud, and it took me two days to just
Speaker 2: like adjust to the sun being.
Speaker 1: Out, glibrate yeah, and be like all right, cool now
Speaker 1: I can like yeah, I can work out, you know,
Speaker 1: I can go eat and like I was just in
Speaker 1: the room dog like fuck, I know, man, I know
Speaker 1: that's what that's. I came straight from the room over
Speaker 1: here brother.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I ain't mad at it, man, And any
Speaker 2: any idea when the I'm gonna er when your mixtape
Speaker 2: is gonna drop for the end of the year, i'.
Speaker 1: Assument absolutely yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you already have other videos shot? Because it's no,
Speaker 2: you don't fuck around with these videos.
Speaker 1: Ain't like you just yeah, but we're working on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the concepts, you got the vision boards
Speaker 2: and all that.
Speaker 1: I see. Actually, when you come down to this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, you don't sit with like it's whatever comes
Speaker 1: at the moment. Man. A lot of it just comes.
Speaker 1: You know, the song will be ready and we'll be
Speaker 1: sitting with it. But it's only when you really intently,
Speaker 1: kind of intentionally go after an idea for it that
Speaker 1: it comes.
Speaker 2: Would you ever do movies?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you, I mean yeah, or direct
Speaker 2: someone else's video.
Speaker 1: I've been in these headspaces and conversations for for some time, man.
Speaker 1: But also it's like one of those things where I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I'm just at the space of just like
Speaker 1: when it comes to music, to just figuring this out.
Speaker 1: But I think these things also come naturally with it.
Speaker 1: It's art at the end of it.
Speaker 2: So for sure, what was it like linga will rocky
Speaker 2: and that had to be kind of cool, also insane, visionary, amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, initially we were talking about doing a video when
Speaker 1: we had had conversations in the beginning, but also we
Speaker 1: just knew with the time and everything, it just wasn't.
Speaker 2: And around that time, I think he was kind of
Speaker 2: the thick of his thing, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's also like the song had been out for
Speaker 1: a long time, so it's like, we shoot a video
Speaker 1: will take time as.
Speaker 2: Well, right, so it's like by the time the video,
Speaker 2: I mean exactly, it's.
Speaker 1: Like then it's like, bro, what is this big Dog song? Bro?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Tired of it?
Speaker 2: Also, like, you know what I loved about this about
Speaker 2: your about Big Dogs was it was like an untraditionally
Speaker 2: structured song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very much.
Speaker 3: So it was like you heard the intro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the intro, but like the song is like it's
Speaker 2: like it's it's just a thing, like it's it's not
Speaker 2: like a traditionally structured record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my perception of music.
Speaker 2: Which is which is I think is incredible because it's
Speaker 2: like you know, the it reshapes. I feel like there's
Speaker 2: certain records like that that like reshape what like a
Speaker 2: hit could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, man, because you know that intro bit
Speaker 1: when you you know of the song is what people
Speaker 1: think is the hook. That's not the hook, right, The
Speaker 1: hook is later in the song, and people usually like
Speaker 1: ye up with the hook first, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Doci's Denial is a River is like an
Speaker 2: example of a song that's like such a big hit,
Speaker 2: but there's it's just a dope record stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeaheah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Is there anybody anybody you'd like to work with in
Speaker 2: the States that you haven't been able to connect with
Speaker 2: quite yet that you're just a fan of, just you know,
Speaker 2: just like, man, I really appreciate what you got going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's quite a few, man. Doci's one
Speaker 1: of them. I think she's amazing.
Speaker 2: She's fucking fire.
Speaker 1: You know. There's some who I have been in touch with,
Speaker 1: like a Jid or del Carraz. Yeah, yeah, amazing, man.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear his album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he's yeah, he's always cooking man. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: so good poet for sure. Yeah, and this is a lot, man.
Speaker 1: I'm just I think it's a it's such a cool
Speaker 1: space for music, you know, as a whole over here
Speaker 1: and just seeing it from now outside, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: now we have access to everything, right, so it's like
Speaker 1: everyone's paying attention, and it's just about trying things out. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm what to it?
Speaker 2: What is the general consensus? I'm just curious for our
Speaker 2: politics out here over there.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean I think this is just
Speaker 1: I mean my perception of it, right, And I'm not
Speaker 1: like a politician.
Speaker 2: Right right, right, I'm just curious, like what the like
Speaker 2: what folks over there are thinking about? What the fuck
Speaker 2: we got going on over here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, because I think because of the way that
Speaker 1: America is positioned, right, y'all are like, for better or
Speaker 1: for worse, y'all are like the leader of the free world, right,
Speaker 1: and you know this right has developed over time and right,
Speaker 1: you know, conquering and being who you are. Right. But
Speaker 1: then because of that, whether it's India or anybody else,
Speaker 1: everybody's watching. They won't like Indian politics are going on,
Speaker 1: Japanese politics are going on, China everything, But y'all, no
Speaker 1: one's really paying attention like they're paying attention to America.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: I think y'all need to be very aware of that.
Speaker 2: And we're the number one consuming country of goods. But
Speaker 2: like you said, it's like people are paying attention to
Speaker 2: what we're doing, and like when we do certain things,
Speaker 2: it's when you start having countries pushed together together like bricks,
Speaker 2: you you know, and it's like it.
Speaker 1: Is you got to understand, right because and typically when
Speaker 1: you think about when you think about civilizations in the past, right,
Speaker 1: all the great ones at the end, they'll get to
Speaker 1: the top, and they're the ones their only downfall.
Speaker 2: Is themselves themselves.
Speaker 1: Right when they don't have other enemies to go against
Speaker 1: our other issues, you start looking inwards and you eat
Speaker 1: yourself alive. Right, Actually, y'all have it amazingly good. Like
Speaker 1: we come from third world countries outside and you see
Speaker 1: how amazing like things can be. Right, but then you
Speaker 1: look at it and then and it's crazy dramatic, like
Speaker 1: of course it's also entertaining, right, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: see what's going on, and it's this is grab popcorn eating.
Speaker 2: But you have like we go from like a guy's
Speaker 2: like half dead and finding a genocide to a guy
Speaker 2: who's you know, wants to finish the genocide and it's
Speaker 2: all bright orange.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a free Palestine man I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: at the end of it, right, you think about you
Speaker 1: think about it, and it's not I don't think it's
Speaker 1: just an Indian thing. I think everyone's just viewing it
Speaker 1: and just being like there's a lot going on. And
Speaker 1: also like y'all have a ripple effect because everything, like
Speaker 1: you're saying, with the tariffs and everything, everything is like
Speaker 1: affected afterwards. So we'll see, yes, I mean, and we
Speaker 1: will see too, like we watch everybody watch.
Speaker 2: Its like we're the fucking and like it's season one
Speaker 2: of succession.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end, y'all got to realize. And I
Speaker 1: think this applies to even my country too. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: on the like we're on the same team. Like we go.
Speaker 1: It's at the end of it, it's just the poor
Speaker 1: and the rich. You must understand that, Like it's just class.
Speaker 1: It's just a class thing, right, and they everything else
Speaker 1: is just it's all farce. It's just ship that they're
Speaker 1: trying to make. Like Okay, there you go, this is
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, they're creating a lot's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sat a lot of stuff to divide classes. But
Speaker 2: they don't make them think they're being divided by classes
Speaker 2: that make them think that they're being divided by identity ship.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you point hard enough, the eyes will focus.
Speaker 1: But then there's like fingers that are pointing back. Man.
Speaker 1: It's just you must understand this. But again, this is
Speaker 1: like it's not like we have it amazing on that side.
Speaker 1: Like everybody, everybody's got their own problems, brother, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, we will figure this out for sure.
Speaker 2: I hope, so, man, I hope. So new mixtape on
Speaker 2: the way Coachella the next two weekends. You're going to
Speaker 2: be holding it down to Coachella. Uh. The new record
Speaker 2: is insane, video's crazy.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, my brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep up, keep up the good work, bro, You're
Speaker 2: killing it.
Speaker 1: And thank you, bro, you're killing it to better. You know,
Speaker 1: we're keeping the eyes in.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I need to tap in with some more
Speaker 2: Indian mcs too.
Speaker 1: Hey man, there's a lot more. They're just so good homies.
Speaker 2: He's uh, you know he helps with mass Appeal and
Speaker 2: uh yeah, there's a I know mass Appeal has his
Speaker 2: footprint out there.
Speaker 1: Massive man. I mean, I'm sure you hear the like
Speaker 1: divine and you know there's there's something that's directly you
Speaker 1: don't work with mass appeal. There's just some incredible talent
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: For sure, and hip hop massive, I mean hip hop
Speaker 2: massive everywhere right.
Speaker 1: Shout out to they se hip hop to Indian hip hop. Man,
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of very very cool artists that
Speaker 1: are coming on the way over there. Man, tap in,
Speaker 1: you do have to tap in, But I mean there's
Speaker 1: so many names that if I get started, I won't
Speaker 1: be able to stop for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you pulling
Speaker 1: Up, bro, appreciate your having boom every brother fire