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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: We're going to discuss this drone strike that killed seven

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Speaker 2: civilian aid workers in Gaza on Monday, a couple of

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Speaker 2: days ago. A lot of political backlash to this in

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Speaker 2: the aftermath of the strike. The headline here up on

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Speaker 2: the Daily Mail Biden is pissed. That is the quote.

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Speaker 2: They say that Joe Biden is furious and is getting

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Speaker 2: ready for a very tense phone call with Benjamin Netanyahu

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Speaker 2: after this strike killed seven aid workers. This is what

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Speaker 2: we know about it so far. IDF and IDF has

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Speaker 2: taken responsibility for this. They have said it as a tragedy.

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Speaker 2: They have said it as an accident, and there will

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Speaker 2: be a full investigation into how this could happen. It

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Speaker 2: was a marked a convoy from a World Central kitchen

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Speaker 2: and they're trying to get food to people who obviously

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Speaker 2: are are facing hunger and even possible starvation in the

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Speaker 2: midst of this war zone. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: outrage from people about this. I think that one thing

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Speaker 2: that has gotten perhaps the most attention in terms of

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Speaker 2: the response to this so far has been Chef Jose Andres,

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Speaker 2: who is the one who has coordinated this strike, has said,

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Speaker 2: and team, let me know when we have him. We

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Speaker 2: have it. Okay. Here is Chef Jose Andres saying that

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Speaker 2: what Israel did with this strike was intentional. It was murder. Listen.

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Speaker 3: And these happened over more than one point five one

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Speaker 3: point eight diamit. So this was not used a bad

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Speaker 3: luck situation where we dropped the bomb in the brong

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Speaker 3: place or not. This was over one point five one

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Speaker 3: point eight kilometers with a very defined humanitarian convoy that

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Speaker 3: had signs in the top, in the roof, a very

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Speaker 3: colorful logo that we are obviously very proud of. But

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Speaker 3: that's very clear who we are and what we do.

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Speaker 3: But I know is that we were targeted deliberately, not

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Speaker 3: as too until everybody was dead in this conboy.

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Speaker 2: Targeted deliberately, he says Jose Andres. This is a celebrity

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Speaker 2: chef who's put together world Worldchen, World Central kitchen play.

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Speaker 2: I just think that it's important. First of all, Jose

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Speaker 2: Andres is somebody who at the very beginning of this

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Speaker 2: I meaning right after October seventh, was very vocal calling

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Speaker 2: for a ceasefire right away. So the people who have

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Speaker 2: called for a ceasefire after what we saw on October seventh,

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Speaker 2: or I think, acting in bad faith, they generally wanted

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Speaker 2: Israel to suffer a horrific terror attack. If someone had

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Speaker 2: told me that they wanted to call for and there

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Speaker 2: were some people who said there's very few a ceasefire

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Speaker 2: with al Qaeda and the global Jihat after nine to eleven,

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Speaker 2: I would have only had four letter words to say

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Speaker 2: to them about it. I think, and I think that

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Speaker 2: a lot of Israel and the Israelis and the Jewish

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Speaker 2: people feel the same way as they should. The notion

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Speaker 2: that this was intentional. Let's unpack this for a second.

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Speaker 2: If Israel wanted to blow up every AID convoy, they

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Speaker 2: could blow up every AID convoy, and there's nothing the

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Speaker 2: Palestinians could do to stop them. In fact, if they

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Speaker 2: wanted to destroy every standing building in Gaza, everything and

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Speaker 2: kill everyone in Gaza, they could do so, and there's

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Speaker 2: nothing that the people of Gaza could do to stop them.

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Speaker 2: This only makes their actual mission more complicated. I always say,

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Speaker 2: we say on the show, look at incentives. There is

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Speaker 2: no incentive put aside the moral calculations here for a second.

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Speaker 2: There is no combat incentive for the Israelis to do this.

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Speaker 2: And I'm reminded of the horrific mistake that we made,

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Speaker 2: or the Biden administration made, during the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

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Speaker 2: We blew up a car with I think six or

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Speaker 2: seven kids. It was a father and his six or

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Speaker 2: seven children. We said it was a suicide bomber. We

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Speaker 2: hit a drone we were following the car. We turned

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Speaker 2: the whole thing into charcoal. And that was America. These

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Speaker 2: kind of mistakes, as awful as they are, do happen

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Speaker 2: in war one hundred percent. And that's what exactly where

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Speaker 2: I was going to go to.

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Speaker 1: I think we killed ten innocent people in Afghanistan with

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Speaker 1: the idea this guy was driving around with a suicide

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Speaker 1: it turns out that he was a dad coming home

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Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean we did not do that intentionally.

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Speaker 2: They didn't say, blow up a bunch of kids. Nobody

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Speaker 2: There was no accountability for it. But that's another conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, intent is important here because

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Speaker 2: It doesn't.

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Speaker 1: They could have intentionally targeted this group with the idea

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Speaker 1: But the real intent here, which we seem to be forgetting,

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Speaker 1: was the intent of Hamas to kill as many Jews

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Speaker 1: again what it did on October seventh. And so I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of sympathy for anyone who

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Speaker 1: is allowing Hamas to still exist in all of the

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Speaker 2: That's why this is going on.

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Speaker 1: Hamas began this war, and now that they are reaping

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Speaker 1: The challenge, of course, is when you are dealing with

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Speaker 1: people who believe that they are going to die and

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Speaker 1: be martyrs and get seventy virgins, when you are dealing

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Speaker 1: with their rational people, dealing with them rationally in fighting

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Speaker 1: a war creates a whole other generation of people who

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Speaker 1: And so the idea that what I don't like is

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Speaker 1: of oh, this is unacceptable. Israel is saying, I believe

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Speaker 1: buck that they have killed somewhere in the neighborhood of

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Speaker 1: fifteen thousand Hamas fighters and people in gods are saying

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Speaker 1: there's thirty thousand people that have been killed. It's hard

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Speaker 1: the reality is this is impossible to do without there

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Speaker 1: being some loss of innocent civilian life. And your point

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Speaker 1: is a good one. If Israel wanted to carpet bomb

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Speaker 1: He'll kill everyone there.

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Speaker 2: They kill it. Please. Yeah, there's nothing that they could

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Speaker 2: have done it on October eighth. They could have done

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Speaker 1: They could have rained down Holy Hell upon Gaza and

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Speaker 1: Douglas Murray. Was it Buck who made the argument that

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Speaker 1: you talk about what is a what is a justifiable response,

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Speaker 1: what is commensurate with the proportional response that is allowed.

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Speaker 1: Nothing that Israel has done is as evil as what

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Speaker 1: Hamas did to Israel on October seventh, None of it

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Speaker 1: They have hired hid people wherever they could to try

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Speaker 2: I mean Hamas fighters in the name of the Palestinian people,

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Speaker 2: When someone does that, the only response in a just

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Speaker 2: they haven't killed all of the Hamas fighters, so the

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Speaker 2: how I felt about bin Laden and al Kadam, what

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Speaker 2: So I don't see this the way that the jose

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Speaker 2: you know, moral parody here and that it's oh fog

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Speaker 2: of war and both sides are doing these bad things. Uh.

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Speaker 2: The the just. The only thing that Hamas did on

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Speaker 2: October seventh was pursue evil down into the depths of

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Speaker 2: hell and try to kill as many people who were

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Speaker 2: nothing to them as they possibly could, and mutilate them

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Speaker 2: in nation state. It didn't advance. It wasn't it wasn't

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Speaker 2: about some kind of a territorial dispute. Really ultimately, because

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Speaker 2: that's not going to get there.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't anyway, buck even a military attack, right like,

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Speaker 2: Only ask yourself this, what is the concession that Hamas

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Speaker 2: and then return them all. As we know, they've killed

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Speaker 2: They did all this out of just sheer malice. It

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Speaker 2: And the only way to respond with that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: strange that people that I know, I'll say this even

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Speaker 2: it came to our fight against the jihattists, against the

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Speaker 2: al Qaida and its affiliated entities. Basically the globalji hottiest

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Speaker 2: Those some of those same voices are thinking that somehow

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Speaker 2: in a similar struggle. The parallels are very clear to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't see why anyone on the right wouldn't understand.

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Speaker 1: That if people from Mexico or Canada, but anywhere on

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Speaker 1: Do you think we would stop because we accidentally killed

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Speaker 2: Of course not so. I wouldn't expect Israel to do

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Speaker 2: anything less, And Mexico and Canada would never would never

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Speaker 2: to say, oh, all people are capable of evil. It's

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Speaker 2: They I have friends who have interviewed mothers in the

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Speaker 2: in a suicide bombing. This is back in the earlier

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Speaker 2: And that's widespread. Just to be clear, that's widespread. The

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Speaker 2: It's official policy from all the way on down to

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Speaker 1: You want to react to what our conversation was just

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Speaker 1: about Israel's response to the Hamas attack on October seventh

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Speaker 2: What you got for us?

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Speaker 4: I have a question, an analogous question, just food for thoughts.

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Speaker 4: If the Sina Lo La cartel we're launching rockets out

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Speaker 4: Democrats expect Joe Biden to.

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Speaker 5: Do about.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think, thank you for the call. I

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Speaker 1: the analogy is not a bad one. If someone crossed

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Speaker 2: This is the reality of it. But Israel didn't start this,

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Speaker 6: The outrage that the Biden administration has against the accidental

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Speaker 2: We specific talked about. I spoke about that in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we specifically know that Hamas is trying to

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Speaker 2: So look, it stinks.

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Speaker 1: It would be great if only people who are responsible

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Speaker 2: What if it all comes down to Nebraska, Nebraska, the

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Speaker 2: corn Husk State. I believe right, that's correct, that's what

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Speaker 2: the MASCA. Yes, thank you, I know this, I remember this.

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Speaker 2: So here's the situation. It's not actually about football or

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Speaker 2: The state of Nebraska. If you didn't know, we have

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Speaker 2: a lot of listeners in Nebraska, appreciate you. The state

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Speaker 2: Nebraska legislators last night blocked a late effort to change

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Speaker 2: how the state allocates its electoral college votes. Despite public

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Speaker 2: pressure from former President Donald Trump Donald Trump to shift

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Speaker 2: still hurdles before the legislative ession legislative session for the

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Speaker 2: that puts the competitive second district, Omaha Area nose prize

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Speaker 2: there is wasn't there Kevin Costner movie where like he

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it, but you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: He was like the last person to vote and he

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Speaker 2: what I'm talking Am I creating?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I don't rememb that sounds like it would be a

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Speaker 1: Team let me know that you look that up. I'll

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Speaker 2: So lay some of the math out, because this isn't

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Speaker 2: Oh but yes, I'm not crazy, Clay. It's called swing vote.

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Speaker 2: It came out in two thousand and eight. Boom the

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Speaker 2: Buckster used to watch a lot of movie trailers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well, so, first of all, it's kind of crazy that

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Speaker 1: That is swinging based on what happens with this Omaha district.

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Speaker 1: So I want to lay out what that math look like.

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Speaker 1: It's not actually that far fetched. If Trump were to

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Speaker 2: If it were tied to sixty nine to two sixty nine, it.

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Speaker 2: So again, this.

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Speaker 1: Presumes that Biden wins Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. There is

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Speaker 1: four of them. And so there's been a push and

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Speaker 1: I flagged this yesterday because Trump sent out a message

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Speaker 2: And here's what Trump said.

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Speaker 1: Governor Jim Pillen of Nebraska, very smart, popular governor, came

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Speaker 1: Thank you, governor for your bold leadership. Let's hope the

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Speaker 1: Senate does the right thing. Nebraska's respectfully ask your senators,

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Speaker 1: that's the state senators, to support this great bill.

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Speaker 2: I think, look, it's going to be on the margins

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and can you imagine if Biden wins two seventy

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Speaker 2: It's even, in some ways even crazier than the Kevin

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Speaker 2: why isn't why isn't Nebraska going forward with this? You know,

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Speaker 2: But if all the other states are doing it one way.

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Speaker 2: I feel like every state should do it the same way.

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Speaker 2: So I would say the same thing about Maine. I'm

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Speaker 2: not picking on Nebraska, but if there's a movement in

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Speaker 2: Nebraska to change this, I think it should be changed.

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Speaker 2: I don't really understand it makes sense for them to

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Speaker 2: do it differently, you know what I'm saying, And I

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Speaker 2: agree completely.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Trump won Nebraska by twenty points

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, and I would imagine is on track

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Speaker 1: to win Nebraska by twenty some odd points in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four as well. Maine. I'll look up Maine and see

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Speaker 2: how close it was.

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Speaker 1: Maine is more of a competitive state than Nebraska is, and.

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Speaker 2: So I this feels like an easy fix to me.

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Speaker 2: But just imagine for a second if New York and

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Speaker 2: California apportioned delegate delegates based on some broken down system. Oh,

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Speaker 2: things would feel very different. It looks anything in Texas,

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Speaker 2: but things would look very different if we didn't have

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Speaker 2: the winner take all approach in those states. It would

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Speaker 2: really change because right now, Republicans don't really you know,

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Speaker 2: we don't really think we can win statewide. In California,

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Speaker 2: Democrats pretend, but they can't win wide in Texas and

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Speaker 2: so forth, so it would change the whole landscape. I

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Speaker 2: think that the Nebraska the Nebraska option to McClay so

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Speaker 2: go with Nebraska still go the nation.

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Speaker 1: Well, so, by the way, Maine was a nine point difference,

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Speaker 1: I would think it would be even closer than that

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. And Maine has been a historically

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Speaker 1: independent state. Susan Collins is a Republican, but she's very independent.

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Speaker 1: I think is Angus King's still the other senator. I

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Speaker 1: think he is from Maine and he's actually an independent,

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Speaker 1: so that makes a little bit more sense culturally for Maine.

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Speaker 1: Although I would agree with you at this point, winner

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Speaker 1: take all, but there's not a no blues state would

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Speaker 1: do what Nebraska is doing right now. To your point,

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Speaker 1: New York and California would never allow Trump to get

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Speaker 1: any of their electoral votes. When Trump is going to

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Speaker 1: win your state by twenty plus, why would Nebraska rep

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Speaker 1: reresentatives not make the state winner take all? Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine if Trump wins Nevada, any wins Arizona, and he

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Speaker 1: wins Georgia and Biden gets four more years because Nebraskans

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Speaker 1: allowed Omaha to give an electoral vote to Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: to make him the president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't feel right to me.

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Speaker 1: Now, hopefully it's not going to come down to one

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Speaker 1: electoral vote or another. But given how crazy are politics are,

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Speaker 1: buck does go in two sixty nine to two sixty

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Speaker 1: nine and tossing it into the House of Representatives feel

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Speaker 1: like it's a crazy concept.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't to me. Nothing is too crazy, yes, for

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Speaker 2: this moment in politics. Nothing.

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Speaker 1: So if we're missing something Nebraskans eight hundred and two

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Speaker 1: A two two eight A two, let us know what

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Speaker 1: we're missing. But my general position would be no blue

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Speaker 1: state would ever do what Nebraska is doing. And I

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Speaker 1: would say, again, means more of a state and it's

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Speaker 1: an independent state. But I would understand if Maine they

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Speaker 1: tried to take away the splitting of the electoral college

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Speaker 1: votes as well.

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Speaker 2: And you can argue, well, it means that the candidates

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Speaker 2: are going to campaign here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but just ask yourself, would South Dakota give

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Speaker 1: an electoral vote? I mean, blue and red states do

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Speaker 1: not typically do things that would advantage someone who's not

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Speaker 1: going to come close to winning their state. So why

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Speaker 1: is Nebraska doing it? And is it worth doing it

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Speaker 1: if it means that you hand the presidency potentially to

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. I think is a good question, and Nebraskans

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Speaker 1: probably can answer that better than we can.

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Speaker 2: But I do think it's a question that a lot

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Speaker 2: of them should be asking.

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Speaker 1: And twenty years from now, maybe we're talking about how

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Speaker 1: this election turned on Omaha, and maybe we'll also be

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. We're talking about that situation out

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Speaker 1: in Nebraska. It could be significant. I don't want you

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Speaker 1: to wake up the morning after and you're doing the math.

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Speaker 2: I'm not great at math, but I've done the math.

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Speaker 2: You can do them. Make your own map and again.

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Speaker 1: In this scenario, Trump flips Georgia, flips Nevada, and flips Arizona.

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Speaker 1: That gets him to two sixty eight Biden based on

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Speaker 1: the rest of the map, if he were to win Wisconsin, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: and Pennsylvania and the one vote in Omaha would win

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Speaker 1: the election two seventy to two sixty eight. If it

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Speaker 1: went into the House of Representatives tied at two sixty nine,

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Speaker 1: Trump would be President of the United States. So the

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Speaker 1: entire election, Buck talked about the Kevin Costner swing voter,

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Speaker 1: like he's the last guy. The entire election would come

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Speaker 1: down to how Omaha, Nebraska voted in one congressional district

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Speaker 1: as to who the President of the United States was

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Speaker 1: going to be. And so we're asking Nebraska's We got

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Speaker 1: Byron who wants to lay out this history here. But Buck,

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Speaker 1: can you imagine what the result would be if if

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Speaker 1: Omaha Nebraska gave Biden and look, Trump could still win Omaha.

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Speaker 1: I think it was fairly close. We'll look up the

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Speaker 1: data on that. Maybe Byron knows it, But this is

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Speaker 1: kind of crazy that it could come down to Omaha, Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: It's all about Omaha, Nebraska area. What's going on? Are

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Speaker 2: you a KFA B listener? Yes, sir, Oh fantastic in

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Speaker 2: a clay I used to be on that six to nine,

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Speaker 2: So I have a special place in my heart for

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Speaker 2: KFAB out of Omaha. So tell me this, what is

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Speaker 2: the basis of the historical background of why Nebraska does

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Speaker 2: it the way it does when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: electoral vote breakdown.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's my understanding. Back in the day when they

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Speaker 5: decided to do this, it was an effort for damage control.

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Speaker 5: They saw that the population was being shifted from you know,

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Speaker 5: we're a rural state, but the population centers was greatly

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Speaker 5: outnumbering the rest of the state, and they said, Okay,

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Speaker 5: we're going to split this up. So worst case scenario

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Speaker 5: is we give up one electoral vote and the rest

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Speaker 5: still reflects with the rest of the state.

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Speaker 1: Does understood, Bill, How do you think most Nebraska's who

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Speaker 1: are going to vote for Trump by twenty points would

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Speaker 1: feel waking up and knowing that their creation of a

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Speaker 1: swing electoral vote in Omaha, Nebraska handed the presidency to

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden.

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Speaker 5: Well, the way I look at it is because we've

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Speaker 5: got Trump, and Trump's got a lot of a lot

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Speaker 5: of backing. But if we ever had a close, a

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Speaker 5: closer race, and uh, the whole state can end up

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Speaker 5: going liberal because of the population center is uh liberal.

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Speaker 5: So it's like I say, it was just a damaged control.

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Speaker 5: If things get really bad, we only give up one

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Speaker 5: vote that little pocket of highly populated Omaha doesn't control.

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you this, Byron, if Nebraska votes

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Speaker 1: for a Democrat, the race ain't going to.

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Speaker 2: Be close, you know, thanks for the call.

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Speaker 1: So I don't buy into like, oh, there's a protectionist

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Speaker 1: thing for if if there's a bunch of states out there,

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Speaker 1: buck if they go like if Florida, Carol said yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if Florida goes for by its close right out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a landslide.

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Speaker 2: I just I refuse to just accept this idea that

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Speaker 2: even like Utah is a great state. I was just

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Speaker 2: although people know if you know, you know, but like

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Speaker 2: wait a second, how is this possible? The city Omaha

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Speaker 1: Crocketcoffee dot com if you run a historic nonprofit site

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Speaker 1: and you would like for our coffee to be in

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Speaker 1: your business at your location, helping to spread the wonders

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Speaker 1: of American history. We would love to make that happen.

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Speaker 1: Crockett Coffee dot com. You can go sign up to

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Speaker 1: I think it's got to be like the best launch

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Speaker 1: of a coffee that's ever occurred. We're gonna be doing

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Speaker 1: six figures in sales very soon. Appreciate all of you