1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: This is always fun to do, but sometimes it's even 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: more fun, and this is one of those days. If 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: you have not heard breaking news, they have found more 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: classified documents in Joe Biden's possession, the latest in his 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: garage of his Delaware home. Now, there are a lot 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: of interesting legal questions that come out of this, but 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: the incompetence of Joe Biden, aided and embedded by a 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: fantastic question from Peter Doocey after his statement made just 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: a little over an hour ago, Joe Biden took really 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: only two questions. One was about his wife's wife's health. 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: The first one was about storing of classified documents in 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: his Delaware garage. I want to play this for you 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: because Joe Biden said, it's all okay, guys. It was 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: stored next to his core, very safe and secure listen 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: material next year. Corvette, what were you thinking? Let me, 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get a chance to speak on all this. 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: God willne soon. But I said earlier this week people, 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: and by the way, my Corvette's in the locked garage. Okay, 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: so it's not like you're sitting out in the street. 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: But anyway, yes, as well as my corvette. But as 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: I said earlier this week, people know I take classified 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: documents of classified materials seriously, just just just real quick, Okay, 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: I had a T S SCI clearance worked at the CIA. 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: If I had responded to an official request for do 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: you have classified information and I said yes, it's near 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: my E scooter obviously in my garage, but don't worry, bro, 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: my garage is locked, they would have taken my badge. 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: They would have fired me on the spot, and they 31 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: would have told me to go home a waiting word 32 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: from the US attorney with possible charges under the Espionage 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Act like no offens or butts Clay. I just want 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: to be very clear. It wouldn't have been like a 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: maybe kind of sort of thing. I would have been 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: terminated with prejudice. But you know, Joe Biden, man, Joe Biden. 37 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: So right after that, he read a statement from his lawyers. 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: And it's important to note that he hasn't made a 39 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: public statement about it that I've seen, but Joe Biden 40 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: has now retained his own criminal lawyers. Those are different 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: than the larriors that would be advising on behalf of 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: the United States government. But Buck, I can only imagine 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: this is a veep like moment. For those of you 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: who watched the show, they undoubtedly prepped Joe Biden over 45 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: and over and over again, Hey, here's what you need 46 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: to say. And instead and I get Peter Ducey credit. 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: Because Joe Biden is kind of obsessed with his corvette. 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: He specifically referenced that the classified documents were next to 49 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: the corvette, and Biden couldn't resist talking about those anytime. 50 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: You say, I take this very seriously and your defenses, 51 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: it was next to my corvette in the garage. First 52 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: of all, it's out of touch because most Americans can't 53 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: afford corvettes. Second, for anyone out there who has a garage, 54 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't ring true. This is one of those great 55 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: moments where if you were standing in front of a jury, Buck, 56 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: if you put things in your garage documents materials, it's 57 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: the next closest step to the track. Actually, the place 58 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: you treat things that are not that important to you. 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: They store things that are not that important to you. 60 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: This is where you put the fishing tackle that you 61 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: haven't used in a couple of years. You know, our 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: garage upstay were in a place their family place was 63 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: like the old archery bows that were collecting dust and 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: the toys when we were kids that we hadn't given 65 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: away or didn't want to because everybody had broken down, 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: or like, that's what goes in the storage area of 67 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: the garage, Clay. There's a lot that we will be 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: unpacking in this hour because the political implications of this 69 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: are actually now substantial I believe, yes, not think the 70 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: legal implications, we can talk about that too. The political implications, though, 71 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: are are pretty meaningful. But I would just before we 72 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: even get there, let's think for a second about how 73 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: do these documents get in the garage in some pile? 74 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: In what world is Joe Biden reading documents that are 75 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: in a skiff a secure compartmented information facility and then 76 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: they're getting mixed in with stuff and then they're ending 77 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: up next to the old you know, Little League trophies 78 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: for the grandkids, you know what I mean? How does 79 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: that even happen? And are we really to believe that 80 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: this was that they got them all at this point? 81 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: At this point we have to assume he's probably got 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: some stashed under you know, the barbecue, you know, at 83 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: that delawarehouse. He's got them all over the place. Well, 84 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: we said when they found these in the in the 85 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: office in Washington, DC, that they had to search everywhere else. 86 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: And I want to get to the legal implications in 87 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: a moment, but I still think the absurdity of this 88 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: is ringing home. Buck, I tweeted out he posted, Joe 89 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Biden did videos of him driving this corvette. It's like 90 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: a classic corvette. I don't know, probably in nineteen sixties 91 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: era corvette. Just by glancing at it, and in the 92 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: background of the video that he posted, you can see 93 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: stacks of boxes and papers up against the wall in 94 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: the garage. I would bet that it's probably a decent 95 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: chance that that is where the classified documents were. But 96 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: make no mistake about this. They tried to say that 97 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: the way that Donald Trump was storing classified documents in 98 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: mar Lago was such a national security threat that they 99 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: had to have the FBI raid there. Buck, you and 100 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: I have been to marrow Lago multiple times. You are 101 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: under secret servant Secret Service surveillance from the moment you 102 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: enter that property. You are wanted when you move from 103 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: one part of the property to another, there are areas 104 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: that you do not have access to, including where Donald 105 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: Trump was storing these documents. Anybody can get into a garage. 106 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, just take it outside of this being Joe 107 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: Biden's residence. If you live in a neighborhood, the least 108 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: secure part of your house is your garage that is 109 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: over and above it. And that is why this is 110 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: going to turn into I think, I said after they 111 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: found the first classified documents, I didn't think there was 112 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: any way they could charge Trump with a crime. There 113 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: is a zero percent chance, in my opinion, in the 114 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: wake of this, that there is any way they can 115 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: charge Trump with a crime for documents related to Mara Lago. 116 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: So I would say that this has now transitioned from Oh, 117 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: but what Trump did was so much worse, which was 118 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: the news psyche, Well they were given us yesterday. Yes 119 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: to old man Biden made some mistakes. Whoop. See there's 120 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: classified in a bunch of places, which also has implications 121 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: by the way, for Biden separately from Trump, which we 122 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: can get into. People are asking me some interesting questions 123 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: about this one. But Clay, I think they were in 124 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: a position under that analysis of events, which clearly has 125 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: been blown out of the water to still bring some 126 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: kind of a process charge against Trump related to the documents. 127 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: People keep saying, why was there an FBI raid in 128 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: the one and off the other. Look, I agree, the 129 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: FBI rate was outrageous and crazy, and we talked about 130 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: at the time. What they're going to say is that 131 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Trump had documents and refused to turn them over. They 132 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: knew about them, and that's why the FBI had to 133 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: go and secure them. This is bullcrap, we all know. 134 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: But that's at least the explanation. But now you have 135 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: a circumstance where the obstruction charge that they were going 136 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: to try I think against Trump, now that's even gone too. 137 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: I think anything connected tomorrow documents as a criminal matter 138 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: for Trump. The DOJ has to let it. Let it 139 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: all go okay. So and here, now let's get into 140 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of the timeline, because I do think 141 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: this is interesting and we still, to my knowledge, have 142 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: not heard they found these initial documents, was the report 143 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: on November second in the Biden office in Washington, d C. 144 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: They now are announcing that they have found more documents. 145 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: When were these new documents in the Biden private residence 146 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: in Delaware and his garage. When were those found? And Buck, 147 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: I want you to think about this because I'm curious 148 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: what your take on this would be. You just hit 149 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: on it. When they announced the finding of the documents 150 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: in his private office, all of the Democrat corporate media 151 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: apparatus came out and wagged their fingers and said Trump 152 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: is still worse. They wrote all the articles New York Times, 153 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: Washington Posts, they carried all the water. Now they allowed, 154 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: they basically allowed all of Biden's advocates to put their 155 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: best foot forward, and now they've just chopped that foot 156 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: off because of this new situation. So how is this 157 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: story developing? When were these uncovered? What is when did 158 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland know about it? These are big questions. So 159 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't like responding to a question with a question, 160 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: But I think this question in some ways might answer 161 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: the question that you've just posed. Because I've received this 162 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: now in different form text message, DM email from a 163 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: handful of people in the last twenty four hours. Because 164 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: you're asking about timeline, people are asking me, Hey, is 165 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: this how they get Biden to step down? Yeah? Is this? 166 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: How is it? A hit from his own team. Well, effectively, 167 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: it's the hey, guys, it's because if they opened the 168 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: Pandora's box of look, Biden has senior moments, there was 169 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: no By the way, there's no chance. I won't ever understand, 170 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: no chance of criminal charges against Joe Biden for any 171 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: of this. Don't don't even waste your time, anyone tells 172 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: you otherwise living in a fantasy land, because they've already 173 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: established with Hillary the whole Oh, I didn't mean to. 174 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: And I know people are gonna say, well, look where 175 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: they did a Trump? Right, Trump is Trump? They're they're 176 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: out on this is that he had no men's ray 177 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: and no criminal mindset to do anything with recklessness or whatever. 178 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: His intent wasn't there, right? He had no intent? Yeah, 179 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: But also there's the he's really old, these forgetful come on, guys, 180 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: let's not And if they start to open that at 181 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: all as a discussion about this, then that clearly transitions 182 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: into the show. So should this guy really be president? 183 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: So I have to analyze this and think about what 184 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: do you think it is it even possible in your 185 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: mind that this is the apparatus at least creating the 186 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: grounds Because I do believe Joe Biden wanted to run again. 187 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: I do believe Joe Biden thought he was running again. 188 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: I still think he will run again, but I'm less 189 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: confident today than I was yesterday. Okay, so that's a 190 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: big question here and what we were saying off air 191 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: before we came on. We have basically ongoing conversations twenty 192 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: four hours a day essentially. But Buck, I always think 193 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: about this as if I were a crisis pr advisor, 194 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: how would you handle this? I want every single bit 195 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: of information about classified documents out all at once. My 196 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: theory is this makes Biden look far worse. And that's 197 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: why I circle back to, well, when did they find 198 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: these documents at his Delaware home? Because I would want, Hey, 199 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: the story to be We're gonna leak it to one 200 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: of our media allies. Hey, we found sixty three I'm 201 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: just tossing out a number, by the way, sixty three 202 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: classified documents that Joe Biden shouldn't have been in possession of. 203 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: We did an exhaustive search of every possible place where 204 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: he's got access, and we found documents in his office 205 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: in DC, we found documents in his home. We found 206 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: documents in his beach house. Wherever they found them, put 207 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: it out all at once as one story. The drip drip, 208 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: drip of not only did he have documents here, but 209 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: he had them there. To me looks worse and makes 210 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: it feel like a targeted hit in some way, as 211 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: opposed to just letting him get in front of the story. 212 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: Now you may disagree. I think the drip is worse 213 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: because it makes look more incompetent. It also raises the 214 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: question of, Okay, when did this search actually happen at 215 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: his home? You could argue, You could argue that though 216 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: by talking about the first one, you open up the 217 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: possibility of the second one. And that's why the media 218 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: was already shaping this with it was basically, let's be clear, 219 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: classified documents were found in some Biden office for some 220 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: bull think tank that was paying him seven hundred and 221 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars a year. The University of Pennsylvania has 222 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: money to light on fire obviously, because that's well, they're 223 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: actually buying influences. We know, we know what they were buying, 224 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: and the apparatus takes care of its own. But the 225 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: story was actually but Trump was worse. That was the whole, 226 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: the whole day was Trump. That's why this is so 227 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: fascinating me. Buck. They let all of the advocates come 228 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: out and defend Biden, and now the core vette line 229 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: and the garage. It's like they chopped off the head 230 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: of all the defenders because it made them look ridiculous. 231 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: I also, I am so curious. You know we got that, 232 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: oh Trump had the nuclear the nuclear information, the single 233 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: thing that somebody who is not particularly uh you know, 234 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: in touch with classification and rules of national security, but 235 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, somebody hears the nuke secrets might have been leaked. 236 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: Any normal person's gonna get freaked out. Do you think 237 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: we're ever gonna find out some of the some of 238 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: the details. Magically, there'll be some leaks of the press 239 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: about what TS documents top secret documents? Did Biden have 240 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: hanging out in a garage next to Oiley rags and 241 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: you know his Christmas decorations. That's I don't think we're 242 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: gonna ever see that, which is also another indicator here, 243 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: but Clay, we got a lot of my friend, because look, 244 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: this affects This affects Biden running again. This affects Trump's 245 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: ability to one win the primary and to win a general, like, 246 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of moving pieces that tie into this 247 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, so we got a busy day. 248 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: We haven't even talked about the nationwide egg shortage. Everybody. 249 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: I will. The food that I love the most is 250 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: red meat. The food that I am most dependent on, clay, 251 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: is egg I eat eggs like every day, and there 252 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: is literally I'm not even it's not a joke, everybody, 253 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: there's a nationwide shortage of chicken eggs. Thank you, Joe Biden. 254 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk about this in a moment. Mike Lendale is 255 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: the inventor of my pillow. You guys don't know Mike. 256 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: You see him on TV. Here him here on this show. 257 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: He's got a passion to help everyone get the best 258 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: sleep of their life. 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I'm joined today by John Lausch, the US 286 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois who conducted the 287 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: initial investigation into the matter that I will describe today. 288 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: On the evening of November fourth, twenty twenty two, the 289 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: National Archives Office of Inspector General contacted a prosecutor at 290 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. It informed him that the White 291 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: House had notified the Archives that documents bearing classification markings 292 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: were identified at the office of the Penn Biden Center 293 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: for Diplomacy and Global Engagement located in Washington, d C. 294 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: The Special Council has been appointed to look into the 295 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: classified documents that have been found. Three now document discoveries 296 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: have been confirmed by the DOJ. Joe Biden is the 297 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: first president who is a Democrat. All Republican presidents seem 298 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: to have a special counsel or two. But every person 299 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: now would have to think back to what went through 300 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: or what happened during those years in the nineteen nineties 301 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: with the ken Star investigation of Bill Clinton and how 302 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: all that went. Now this seems like a much smaller scale, 303 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: much more limited investigation, but it's still noteworthy and it's interesting, 304 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: I think for the political implications in many ways. More 305 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: so than the legal ones. Clay, You've been deep diving 306 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: into the background because let's just as a quick preface, 307 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: is this the apparatus protecting itself? Or is Joe Biden 308 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: no longer considered sacro sank by the apparatus and therefore 309 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: this becomes part of the effort to encourage him, shall 310 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: we say, to move aside? That is, eventually, Clay, he 311 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: no longer has the cloak of invincibility. What do you 312 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: think about this, Prosecutor. It's a great question and one 313 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: that we should spend and are going to spend a 314 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: lot of time discussing. But I want to give you 315 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: information on this Robert her thanks to our staff who 316 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: has helped to find his information. So he's a partner. 317 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: This is the new special counsel that has been appointed 318 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: by Merrick Garland. Robert Herr is a partner at Gibson, 319 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: Dunn and Crutcher. He is a this is a big time, 320 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: you know, heavyweight DC firm and his background is interesting. 321 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: He was a former US attorney who was appointed and 322 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: unanimously confirmed by the Senate. He is a Trump appointed 323 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: US attorney if I'm reading his bio correctly, because he 324 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: was appointed in twenty eighteen, so he was working in 325 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: the state of Maryland before or that. This is a 326 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: guy who went to Stanford Law School for his jd. 327 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: Super smart, not a surprise, and worked as a clerk 328 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: for two different justices, sorry, one Supreme Court justice and 329 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: one Ninth Circuit justice. He worked for Kazinski, who was 330 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: appointee of Ronald Reagan, so a Republican judge on the 331 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: Ninth Circuit, and he then went and clerked for Renquist 332 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: as a Supreme Court clerk. So why, some of you 333 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: out there might be saying, Okay, why is his background significant? 334 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: They have appointed Merritt Garland has ostensibly a Republican background 335 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: judge who was a Trump appointee to the US Attorney's Office, 336 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: who clerked for Renquist, who is like, I mean, it's 337 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: not like Grinquist is a far right wing guy. But 338 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: and then also worked with Kazinski, so his background would 339 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: be right leaning in his in his clerkship and appointment era. 340 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: Now there's people at like the Federalist Society who would 341 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: know far more about her, and I'm sure more details 342 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: will come out about the work that he has done. 343 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: But this is important in that it suggests that this 344 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: is not a guy who is rigged in favor of 345 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Now Buck, I told you if I were 346 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: waiving a magic one. I think in July or August, 347 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: both these Special Council reports will come in on the 348 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: classified docs. Merritt Garland to walk out, wag his finger, 349 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: say they both behaved inappropriately, they shouldn't have done this, 350 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: but we're not going to bring criminal charges against either. 351 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: That's the biggest significance I think of this Special Council 352 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: point my prediction of what ye either you? I mean, 353 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: I think that's I would even say that's pretty almost inevitable. 354 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's obvious, right, because otherwise the alternative would 355 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: be referring for prosecution, which in the case of Joe 356 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: Biden goes into the whole can you even prosecute a president? 357 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people say no, and on the Donald 358 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: Trump side, with him running for president, that creates all 359 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: kinds of issues, but it'd be easy. It's an easy 360 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: defense against this too, in the Trump case in particular, 361 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: which is they can't even prove that Trump pulled any 362 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: of these documents himself, knew anything about you know. The 363 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: whole thing is what would get down into a process argument, 364 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: I think very quickly. I mean, it's interesting to see 365 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: what people really believe here. I think Joe Biden, I'll 366 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: just put this out there. I think Joe Biden is 367 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: the democrats best chance for four more years of a 368 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: Democrat president without question. Is it really possible that Democrats 369 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: don't realize that and that and that the apparatus wants 370 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: him to be pushed aside? Like there's something, there's there's 371 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: something that we can't It doesn't totally add up to me, 372 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: and I don't pretend it's I feel like I can't 373 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: see the matrix right now. I'm like, what exactly is 374 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: the move here? There is a possibility in my mind, Clay, 375 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: that this ends very quickly and so that this then 376 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: just becomes a box checking exercise with oh, yeah, we'd 377 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: a special counsel too, and then they sweep it all aside, 378 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: because unless there's more classified information found in more places, 379 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: which is possible, this isn't really going anywhere. And I 380 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: think they'll they'll have them on a pretty short leash 381 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: in terms of investigation. They won't allow the Special Counsel 382 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: to go after areas that aren't specifically this and you know, 383 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: there's not a lot that's tied into this. It's document mishandling. 384 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Now we would have just just to be first everyone's 385 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: clear on this, we will have had Donald Trump accused 386 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: of document mishandling, Hillary Clinton obviously guilty of document mishandling, 387 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: former CIA director Petrayus guilty in a criminal court of documents. 388 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: Like you start to see all these people that are 389 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be absolute top of the classification national security 390 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: food chain, that they can't keep, you know, their Christmas 391 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: ornaments separate from their classified information. It seems kind of weird. Yeah, 392 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a pox on both houses 393 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: moment where that's the way that this will be resolved. 394 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: But I think really basically this is Joe Biden destroying 395 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: any kind of criminal case against Donald Trump. And I 396 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: would imagine Merrick Garland when he heard about this incompetence, 397 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: Remember Obama memorably said, and I'm paraphrasing here, don't underestimate 398 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's ability. And that's really what Joe Biden has 399 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: done to this side. Now, remember Jack Smith, who is 400 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: the special prosecutor investigating Trump for basically everything, still has 401 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: the pathway of Oh we could charge him with January 402 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: sixth related offenses, because there's really two paths, right, the 403 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: classified Doc's argument is basically dead, right. I would be 404 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: stunned if if either of those directions is pursued for 405 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: Biden or Trump, they still have the January sixth pathway, 406 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: where they can charge him with conspiracy or obstruction or 407 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: whatever they want to try to get him with there. 408 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: But I think even that becomes more difficult because remember 409 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: what happens with the special counsel is the special counsel 410 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: does this massive investigation and then they go to the 411 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: Attorney General and they present him with their decision based 412 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: on the evidence, their recommendation basically, and then the Attorney 413 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: General still has to make the decision about what to 414 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: do based on this what is uncovered. So unless you're 415 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: just of the opinion that and by the way, there's 416 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: there's some people out there in America who would say, 417 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: just charge them both with crimes, and let's just sweep 418 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: Biden and Trump out with the ocean, right, like, let 419 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: the tides just sweep them back over, and let's just 420 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: have a redo and go pick a new Democrat and 421 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: go pick a new Republican. I would say, there are 422 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the middle of the country 423 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: that are like kind of that opinions as it were, 424 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: not a scientific poll but a Twitter poll in real 425 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: time in just the last ten minutes. I know you 426 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: haven't seen this, Clay, but is this discovery of classified 427 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: documents and special accouncil appointment by the apparatus a push 428 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: to replace Biden in time for twenty twenty four ninety 429 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: percent of people and we already have a few thousand votes. 430 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: In a couple thousand votes, ninety percent of people think 431 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: the answer is yes. Okay, So that's when we come back. 432 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: This is what you call it good tease. When we 433 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: come back. If ninety percent of people will lieve that 434 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: who's the puppet master? That is the question that I 435 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: would ask if your decision like who is making it's 436 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: always committee, it's always committee with the Libs. So who's 437 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: on the committee? Who's on the puppet master committee? It's 438 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: not one. I believe that conspiracies exist. By the way, 439 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: how could you not based on the last couple of 440 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: years in this country, But who would be the person 441 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: that would be you know, kind of pulling threads, pulling strings? 442 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: And this part in the movie. The best possible option 443 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: is that Fauci was like, I'm putting the classified in 444 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: his garage. He's finished, and I finally get the job 445 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: I was really meant for. And remember, in order for 446 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: somebody to be pulling the strings, you still have to 447 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: have an incompetent person in Joe Biden to create this opportunity. Right. 448 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: If he just doesn't have classified documents, this couldn't happen. 449 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: And that's why the timeline to me, we should come 450 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: back to the timeline some during the course of this show, 451 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: because I do think the timeline factors in here. And 452 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: we'll continue to break all this down for you. By 453 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: the way, I will say this, I bet you're getting 454 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: a smarter analysis of this in real time than anywhere 455 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: else that exists in media. Will continue, hopefully maybe Buck 456 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: also will continue to enlighten us on eggs. 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Welcome back in Clay 483 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton Show final our major breaking news Thursday. 484 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: Here as we are trying to keep you apprized of 485 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: everything that is going on. We are joined now by 486 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky, recently reelected for a new 487 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: six year term. We've got a lot to discuss with him, 488 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: but I want to hit a couple of news stories 489 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: for those of you who may have just gotten in 490 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: your car. They have uncovered more classified documents that Joe 491 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: Biden was mishandling inside of his garage and also his 492 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: willing in Delaware area home. As a result, in the 493 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: last forty five minutes or so, Merrick Garland has announced 494 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: the Attorney General of the United States a new special 495 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: counsel who will investigate Joe Biden's handling of classified documents. 496 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: Robert Herr is that individual. Earlier, Joe Biden had a 497 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: press conference. I want to play this for those of 498 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: you who have not heard, and let Senator Rampaul react 499 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: to this. Peter Doocey asked Joe Biden how he could 500 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: be so reckless as to be saving storing classified documents 501 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: in his garage. Here is what that sounded like? Material 502 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: next year, corvette? What were you thinking, Tony. We're gonna 503 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: get a chance to speak on all this God William soon. 504 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: But I said earlier this week people, And by the way, 505 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: my corvette's in the locked garage. Okay, so it's not 506 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: like you're sitting out in the street anyway. Yes, as 507 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: well as my corvette. But as I said earlier this week, 508 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: people know I take classified do him as a classified material? Seriously? Okay, 509 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: So Senator Ray and Paul, I don't know if you'd 510 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: heard that clip yet. I'm sure you're running around busy, 511 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: but when you hear that, your reaction is what you know. 512 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: I think people don't like hypocrisy. I don't like it. 513 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: American people don't like it. They don't like one standard 514 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: for one fellow and another for Biden. You know, the 515 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: Trump arrangement syndrome got them all hopped up. They were 516 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: ready to lynch him and put him in jail and 517 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: lock him up forever because he mishandled classified information. It'll 518 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: be interesting to see if we get the same. I'm 519 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: actually the opinion that rather than treat them both as 520 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: if they need to go to prison. I think they 521 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: need to be both treated the same. But what we 522 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: should treat them as is that we've got a real 523 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: problem with overclassifying everything. I mean, the menu for the 524 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: White House I think is classified. So I mean there's 525 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: a lot of problems with everything being classified. Right now, 526 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm investigating the origins of the COVID virus and there's 527 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: information it's classified that basically goes a long way towards 528 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: proving or putting forth the hypothesis that this came from 529 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: the lab. And yet I'm not allowed to say it 530 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: because it's classified. Half of it's been printed already in books. 531 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: But I think we have a problem on our hands 532 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: over classifying things. So I'm not in the position of saying, oh, yeah, 533 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: we need to throw the book at Biden. We probably 534 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: need to not throw the book at either one of them, 535 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: and look at the problem the stamp and classified on everything. 536 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: The intelligence community I think does this because they're largely 537 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: protecting their turf. And this isn't like the secrets to 538 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: the nuclear bomb. You know, they're like, oh, Trump as 539 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: a top secret. Well, the thing is is, do you 540 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: think somebody at the White House is saying, mister President, 541 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: this is the technical diagrams of hell, we make a 542 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: nuclear weapon. Oh, by the way, here, just keep a copy. 543 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of ridiculous. None of it is that, 544 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of the information we have to figure 545 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: out ways to get it to the American public of 546 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: giving an example, recently, the Republican Minority put out an 547 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: unclassified version of a classified document on the origins of 548 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: the COVID virus. Well, they went to painstaking detail to 549 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: go ahead and tell us within the classified document by 550 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: calling it a hypothesis. A hypothesis exists that so and 551 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: so made a virus that was trying to experiment on 552 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: a vaccine that probably leaked in November of twenty nineteen. 553 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: And so, really this is a problem with overclassification. But 554 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: I think ultimately people are very angry and right to 555 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: be upset about two standards of justice, and I think 556 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: people ought to be treated the same, whether you're a 557 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: Republican or a Democrat. Senator Paul, do you think that 558 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: this could affect I know, I'm asking to just look 559 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: into the crystal ball here of politics, and there's a 560 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: lot that's still going to be coming out, But do 561 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: you think that the appointment of a special counsel today 562 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: or the announcement of that appointment could affect it will 563 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: affect Joe Biden's decisions to run or not run in 564 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I don't know if it does. Actually, 565 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that will be for certain 566 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: is we'll spend a ton of money trying to prosecute 567 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: Trump over classified document. Now we're going to spend tens 568 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: of millions more on Biden. And in the end, because 569 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: they know they have both of them on this and 570 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: both of them are guilty of probably not obeying the 571 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: letter of the law. Both will be dismissed, but I 572 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: predict ten to twenty million dollars worth of expendusers to 573 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: the taxpayer. They'll investigate it and then they'll say, well, gosh, 574 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: if we can Biden, we're gonna have to if we 575 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: convict Trump, we have to convict Biden. So let's not 576 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: convict you to one. And really I think they'll both 577 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: be reprimanded. That will it affect the election. I think 578 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: hypocrisy is never a good thing, and it makes him 579 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: look a little bit like, oh well, yeah, I had 580 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: them walked up. You know, there were the nuclear secrets, 581 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: but I had him walked up with my corvette, so 582 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: they must be Okay, no one's ever stolen my corvette. 583 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: But you know, when Trump made the same argument that 584 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: his documents were locked in a secure room, they completely 585 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: lampooned it. And we'll see if you think any of 586 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: the nightly comics will be lampooning Biden for saying, oh, yeah, 587 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: the nuclear secrets are locked up with my corvette, but 588 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: they're safe. What do you think about the FBI needing 589 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: to be called in tomorrow lago to conduct a raid. 590 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: And it appears that essentially Joe Biden and his employees 591 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: and associates were allowed to conduct their own search over 592 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: these documents for months, basically based on the timeline laid 593 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: out by Attorney General Mayor Garland. November two was the 594 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: initial discovery. They made an additional document discovery on December twentieth, 595 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: and an additional one on January eleventh. That's over two 596 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: months where the Biden team would have had access to 597 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: his documents theoretically without the FBI involved. Once again, independence 598 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: the American people, they don't like to see a double standard, 599 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: and this is why it's really important that the Conservatives 600 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: who held out initially against Kevin McCarthy did get a committee. 601 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: There's going to be a special committee on the optanization 602 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: of government. And so when the FBI is able to 603 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: move forward and do the purp walk for Roger Stone 604 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: or for anybody in the Trump world, they all get 605 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: the purp walk. They arrested. I think a pro life 606 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: protester in front of his seven kids, handcuffed him at 607 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: seven in the morning to make sure all his kids 608 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: would see him walked out to a police car. You know, 609 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: this is infuriating. I don't know if you know, only 610 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: having one body of congressman, how much we're gonna be 611 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: able to do. But we need to expose it to sunlight. 612 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: And then if we can ever get a president again 613 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: that has any kind of sense of fairness, we need 614 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: to absolutely take the FBI out of the political games. 615 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: And one of the things I'm proposing in a bill 616 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: that I'll be putting forward the next couple of weeks 617 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: is preventing the FBI from meeting to collude or discuss 618 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: protected speech. So long history of Supreme Court case is 619 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: saying what is protecting what isn't protecting? So the government 620 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: will say, oh, well, don't you want to stop ISIS 621 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: from recruiting. Well, yeah, that's fine. If you want to 622 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: talk to Twitter about some guy who you think is ISIS, 623 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: that's fine. But you can't go talk to Twitter or 624 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: Facebook or YouTube. You can't go to talk to them 625 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: to say, well, the government doesn't want anybody's saying masks 626 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: don't work, or saying the vaccines aren't necessary for children. 627 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: Those are debatable protected speech and we absolutely have to 628 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: give the government out of that. Senator Paul. Also today 629 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: there's been the latest Twitter files released, this one having 630 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: to do with the Russian bot armies. What has just 631 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: been your your overall takeaway about these Twitter releases and 632 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: do you have any thoughts on the latest that the 633 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: Russian bot armies were exaggerated. I can't help but think 634 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: about you know, when everybody said, you know, the Russians, 635 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: you know elected Donald Trump, one of my favorites. Was 636 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: one of his lines. He was in I think West Virginians, 637 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: West Virginians like you know, from the mountain area, a 638 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: lot like Kentucky and hard working people that have worked 639 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: hard in the coal mines, and Trump would say to them, 640 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: he said, are there any Russians here? Are there any 641 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: Russians in the audience. You know, it was crazy to 642 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: everythink somehow he was elected or supported Russia, you know, 643 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,959 Speaker 1: getting him elected. But I think the truth helps, and 644 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: the fact that Elon Musk is doing this is it's 645 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: an extraordinary thing because you rarely get to see behind 646 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 1: the veil. And you know what we saw yesterday with 647 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: you know, board members of Visor of Visor, the vaccine 648 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: maker actually trying to tamp down anybody who even had question. 649 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: This was a former assistant secretary of HHS saying that 650 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: there was you know, look, natural immunity does work in 651 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: his protective and Scott Gottlieb, you know, a board member 652 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: of Viser trying to get that censored. So this is 653 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: a big problem. What we're waiting to fix it is 654 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: for people on the left who used to be champions 655 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: of the First Amendment to wake up and join the fight. 656 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: Senor and Paul with us right now breaking down the 657 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: latest news. But also I'm sure you read the editorial 658 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal. We've talked a lot about 659 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: the Twitter files, but Facebook, Instagram, heck, even WhatsApp YouTube. 660 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: The degree of basically censorship that was coming out of 661 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: the White House is frankly unprecedented and unlike anything I've 662 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: ever seen, and I bet you would agree they seem 663 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,479 Speaker 1: to be clear unconstitutional violations. What was your reaction to 664 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: those documents coming out? I agree, but I think we 665 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: have to be careful what we think the solution is. 666 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: So if people think the solution is that we should 667 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: regulate speech at Twitter or regulate speech at Facebook or YouTube, 668 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm not there. I think we can regulate government's interaction 669 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: with those platforms, but I don't necessarily want to regulate 670 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: their speech. As much as the people at YouTube despise 671 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: me and I despise them, or Facebook for that matter, 672 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: or any of these other social media networks that take 673 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 1: me down or take down my opinions, I don't want 674 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: to enforce my ability to say what I want to 675 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: say on their platform. I will go somewhere else. And 676 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: I think the big danger is we have to realize 677 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: that if we open the door for government to regulate 678 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: big tech and the speech on big tech, we're also 679 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: opening the door to regulating radio and radio waves. Right now, 680 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: probably talk radio is nine from the right wing, and 681 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: that's a great thing because it shows a lot of 682 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: Americans want to listen to that point of view. We 683 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: agree it is a beautiful thing relating radio content. Well, 684 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: and I just said this is You're right, It's among 685 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: the most beautiful things for anyone's ears talk radio. It's 686 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: why our audience keeps exploding, Senator. And I was just 687 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: going to mention to your point, I agree with you 688 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: on the regulation issue. You may recall this because we 689 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: shared an interview with you on this program. YouTube refuse 690 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: to allow us to share that interview, and I just 691 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm still boggled by the idea that And this is 692 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: as you are running for reelection, regardless of what people 693 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: might think about you, why in the world would your 694 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: opinions not deserve to be as widely distributed as possible 695 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: to allow people to react to and positively or negatively 696 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: at the ballot box. And as I recall, the discussion 697 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: was over whether masks work, and I was saying adamantly 698 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: the cloth mask don't work. In fact, they might encourage 699 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: you to have risky contacts with people who have COVID 700 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: if you think cloth mask is helping you. And about 701 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: three weeks after YouTube took me down and banned us 702 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: discussing it on your program, then the CNN doctor who'd 703 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: been a big fan of doctor Fauci. She finally said 704 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: on air that cloth masks are nothing more than indiation, 705 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's okay, It's okay, 706 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: out cloth masks. We just want you, doctor Paul, to 707 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: know that the Clay and Buck Show will always be 708 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: a safe space for science and truth. So you don't 709 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: worry about that. We got you here. We love it, 710 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 1: and talk radio is something that is It's an amazing niche. 711 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: You meet how many people who work for a living 712 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 1: that are in the car all the time, traveling salesman, truckers, ups, drivers, 713 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: you name it, that are in the car all day long. 714 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: These are the real backbone of our country. These are 715 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: the working people, and they're buying large unsympathetic to those 716 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: who don't want to work and who want to sit 717 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: on their butt and get money. And if you want 718 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: to probably meet the people who are least tolerant of 719 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: those who choose not to work, go anywhere where a 720 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: bunch of guys have grease on their hands and have big, 721 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: strong forums because they work every day, and you'll find, 722 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: you know what, almost no tolerance for these people sitting 723 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: on their butt not working. Senator Paul One war for you. 724 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: The FDA no longer acquires drugs to be tested on 725 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: animals before human trials. Tell us about this is a 726 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: big win. Yeah, this is a bipartisan bill I did 727 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: with Senator Booker Corey Booker from New Jersey. So we 728 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: have a progressive Democrat, conservative Republican. We came together and 729 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: we basically changed a law from the nineteen forties that 730 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: said you cannot approve any drug for humans unless it's 731 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: first tested on animals. And what we did is change it. 732 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: We didn't forbid testing on animals. We just said that 733 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to do it. It's no longer mandatory. 734 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: If they can prove safety without doing animal testing, they can, 735 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: and our hope is over time that will change because 736 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: we've found that some drugs that are unsafe in animals 737 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: are actually safe for humans, and vice versas, some drugs 738 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: that are unsafe in animals are actually fine for humans. 739 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: And so really we have the ability to do less 740 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: of the animal testing. It won't be forbidden, but we're 741 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: hoping there will be less. And there's a lot of 742 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: frivolous stuff too, And frankly, doctor Fauci has been deleting 743 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: a lot of this. We farm out a lot of 744 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 1: this grotesque and gruesome and tortuous research to foreign countries. 745 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: You know, the beagles in Tunisia having their eyelids sewn 746 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: open and their larynx is cut out so the scientists 747 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,760 Speaker 1: don't have to hear them whimpering and crying as we 748 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: inject sand fleas into their eyes. That kind of stuff 749 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: is gratuitous and not necessary. Over decades, people became more 750 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: conscious of this and actually voluntarily the cosmetic industry, you know, 751 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: will advertise not tested on animals, and it turned out 752 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: that there was a huge market of people buy in 753 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: cosmetics who actually preferred to have it not tested on animals. 754 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: Rand Paul, keep up a good fight. We can't wait 755 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: to see what you're gonna be able to do to 756 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: help get the truth out about COVID, fauci and more. 757 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: And also we want to say hi to your wife, Kelly, 758 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: who we know is a big fan. Thank you for 759 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 1: coming on the show and all you're doing. 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We are minutes away from Attorney General Garland. 795 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: Eric Garland's going to be addressing the country here in 796 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: just a few minutes. We'll be rolling on that. We'll 797 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: tell you what he says, but first we are joined 798 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: by the Governor of Texas, Governor Greg Abbott. Governor, appreciate 799 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: you making the time for us, sir, Thanks for calling in. 800 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: Great to be back with you guys again. So if 801 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: you would, sir, just tell us Biden made his trip 802 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: to the border. He laid out a whole bunch of 803 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: things that he says they're doing to address the issue. 804 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: Is anything that the Biden administration saying they will do 805 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 1: going to make a major or even perceivable difference in 806 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: your state of Texas when it comes to the lawlessness 807 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: and chaos at the southern border. Not at all. I mean, 808 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: they claim to be trying to work out some type 809 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: of arrangement for all number of people who come from 810 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: four different countries, But the fact of the matter is 811 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: we have people coming from more than one hundred and 812 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: forty different countries. But also anytime the president or the 813 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: federal government makes any type of deal saying well, we're 814 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: going to let these people in, all that really does 815 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 1: is entice even more people from across the entire world 816 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: to get in, because the attitude of other people is, well, guys, 817 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: if people from this, that, and the other country get 818 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: to get in, if we barn storm the country, that 819 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: will start allowing us in. And if the migrats aren't 820 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: thinking that, I'll tell you who is. The cartels who 821 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 1: bring the migrats across the border are thinking that. Bottom 822 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: line is what Biden is planning. Where the articulating in 823 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: this plan will do nothing to stop illegal immigration. You 824 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: gave Joe Biden Greg Abbott, governor of Texas with us 825 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: right now a letter when he arrived in your state 826 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: to officially walk along the border a little bit in 827 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: El Paso. Do you get the sense, based on your 828 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: limited interact with him, that Joe Biden himself even has 829 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 1: any clue what's really going on? In other words, who 830 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: would be in your mind really making decisions as it 831 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: pertains to the border. We know Kamala Harris is supposedly 832 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: the borders are, she wasn't there, She hasn't made any trips. 833 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: Who's dictating policy in your mind inside the Biden White House? Well, 834 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good question. It's a question people have 835 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: asked for two years now. But who really is making 836 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: decisions in the White House? I can tell you as 837 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: it concerns the border, I have no clue. But I 838 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: will also tell you, and that is the letter that 839 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 1: I handed the President. I opened by saying, listen, mister President, 840 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,919 Speaker 1: you said that you wanted to work with Republicans on 841 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: the border issue, and as a Republican want to work 842 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: with you, I'm giving you this letter. And in this 843 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: letter it has five policy issues that you can take 844 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: right now. You say you want to pass legislation. No 845 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: legislation needs to be passed to do exactly what I'm 846 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: telling you. If you take these five steps, you will 847 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: be able to secure the border. We're speaking to Governor 848 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: Greg Abbott of Texas. Give us a sense, Governor of 849 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: the escalation in human trafficking FENTONEL and overall Mexican drug 850 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 1: cartel activity that is affecting your state and the rise 851 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: in that over the last couple of years. In particular, Well, 852 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: you used a good phrase there in the rise of 853 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: this over the last couple of years, Because it's so 854 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: important for everyone to remember that it was just two 855 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: and a half years ago we had the lowest border 856 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: crossings in the past three or four decades, and that's 857 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: because of the very simple policies that President Trump put 858 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: in place. When Joe Biden came into office, he eliminated 859 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 1: all of those four policies, and as a result, this 860 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: past year we had the highest number of people crossing 861 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: the border illegally. Ever, we had, just in this past year, 862 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,720 Speaker 1: own about the same population as the cd of Houston, 863 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: Texas come across the border in one single year. One 864 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: of the consequences is one thing that you made reference to, 865 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: and that is the fentanyl. Putting aside the federal government 866 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: and whatever they may seize. If you look at just 867 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: what Texas law enforcement has seized, we have seized enough 868 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: fentanyl to kill every man, woman and child in the 869 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: entire country. Let me say this differently, if we did 870 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: not have Texas law enforcement and our National Guard on 871 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 1: the border as we speak right now, enough fentanyl would 872 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: have evaded boy patrol, evaded detection, evaded apprehension, and would 873 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 1: be crisscrossing the United States as we speak and dangering 874 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: the population of the entire country. Governor Abbott, we talked 875 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: about this, and I think it's a big stat and 876 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: it's a big important point. I want you to be 877 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: able to make it for our audience nationwide. Here. The 878 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: Biden administration says they inherited a disaster of a border 879 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: policy from Donald Trump. Yet when I look at the data, 880 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: there were more people who illegally crossed the border in 881 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two than in all four years of the 882 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: Trump presidency combined. How much of a lie You kind 883 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: of hinted at this in response to Buck's question there, 884 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: but how much of a lie is it for the 885 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: Biden administration, Karin, Jean Pierre, everybody associated with this perspective 886 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: to be saying the reason why the border is a 887 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: mess is because we inherited a mess. So there are 888 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: two lies that they are perpetuating. First about what you're 889 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: talking about. The Body administration inherited the most secure border 890 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 1: than any president in decades, and it is because Trump 891 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: put into place the Tile of forty two policy, the 892 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: remain of Mexico policy. He ended catching release, and he 893 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: built the border wall, and maybe more prolifically, he just 894 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: sent a message that if you're going to try to 895 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 1: come to the United States, you better do so legally, 896 00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: not illegally. Bottom line is Biden inherited a a effective 897 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: border security plan. All he had to do was to 898 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: keep it in place. But talk about lies. You know, 899 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 1: the spokesperson for Joe Biden, she gets up there on 900 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,280 Speaker 1: the podium and she says the border secure. She says, 901 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,240 Speaker 1: no one is walking across just walking across the border. 902 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 1: She's clueless about what actually is happening. So either they 903 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,879 Speaker 1: are lying about it or they don't have a clue 904 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: about it. Either way is deadly dangerous. For our country. 905 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,919 Speaker 1: Speaking Governor Greg Abbott of Texas, Governor, you know, we've 906 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: been talking a lot about the move from high tax, 907 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: high regulation, COVID lockdown blue states into red states like Florida, Tennessee, 908 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: and of course Texas. What has that been like in 909 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 1: the last year or so for your state and what 910 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 1: are you doing to entice even more people to change 911 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: it and go live in the great state of Texas. So, 912 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: for one, Texas once again led in all the different metrics, 913 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: whether it be the U haul test or whatever the 914 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: case may be, and ranking number one for the most 915 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: people moving into our state. And we're not doing anything 916 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: per se to purposefully attract these people to come to 917 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: our state. It's just the nature of the policies that 918 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: we have in place, such as no income tax, no 919 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: corporate income tax, a very reasonable regulatory system, a government 920 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: that moves at the speed of business, actually a government 921 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: that embraces business as opposed to try to leach off 922 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: of business. And I tell you another consequence of this, 923 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: and that is as reported this week, California, because of 924 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: their policies, they have a twenty four billion dollar budget deficit. Taxes. 925 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: Because of our policies, we have a thirty three billion 926 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: dollar budget surplus, the largest budget surplus in the history 927 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: of Texas, and I think the largest budget plus of 928 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: any state in the country. Governor Abbott, I know we're 929 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: talking about Texas related specifically, but you have a background. 930 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: You're a lawyer. Fellow Vanderbilt Law grad by the way, 931 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: great fantastic law school for anybody out there thinking about going. 932 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 1: Both the Governor and I are happy to be grads. 933 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 1: You were a judge, you were an Attorney General of Texas. 934 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're familiar with the news that's coming out. 935 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: In fact, the Attorney General is going to be speaking 936 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 1: of the United States here soon. Marek Garland, do you 937 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 1: think there needs to be a special counsel appointed based 938 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 1: on Joe Biden's handling of classified documents, based on what 939 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: you have seen in your legal background. Yes, And let 940 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: me be clear about something that's so incredibly important. We're 941 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: at a very tenuous moment in our country as it 942 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: concerns the legal system and trust in government, because if 943 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: we see come out of Merrick Garland a double standard. 944 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: One applied to Trump with regard to his documents, another 945 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 1: apply to Joe Biden with regard to his documents. Americans 946 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: will realize that there are two systems of law and 947 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: law enforcement in this country, and they will not tolerate that. 948 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: And so it is essential that Merrick Garland do the 949 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,760 Speaker 1: right thing and apply the same standards to Joe Biden 950 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: as he has applied to Donald Trump. Well, we're going 951 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: to find out here in just a few moments from 952 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: the Attorney General whether or not that's actually the case 953 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: here in this country. Attorney General, Sorry, pardon me, Governor Abbott, 954 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: Attorney General Garland, Governor Abbott, Governor Abbot, thanks so much 955 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: for being with us. Oh, it is the pleasure. Thank 956 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: you guys. Take care, Clay, and we're gonna be watching 957 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: it here any moment now. The podium is set up, 958 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: the Justice Department going to go live with Merrick Garland. 959 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: We will be rolling on it. We will bring to 960 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 1: you in real time what is being said. Clay thinks 961 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: there'll be a special counsel. I think there'll be. Yeah, 962 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: this was bad, but we're looking into it. 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