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Speaker 1: So there's no doubt that Apple has built something really

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Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at

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Speaker 1: Triple A Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: It was being held in Anaheim, California, and I spoke

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Speaker 1: Has life gotten better? Has it gotten easier because of

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Speaker 1: First up, I spoke with Christina Duarte, Senior director of

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Speaker 8: in and out whichever way you want to go, you

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Speaker 1: Really want to make sure that happens.

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Speaker 8: The new Access controlled this launch December sixth, and it's

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Speaker 8: relatively brand new, and yeah, the first of it's kind

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Speaker 8: in the PlayStation family.

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Speaker 1: What's been the feedback great?

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Speaker 8: Even in user research we had people who did not

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Speaker 8: want to bring it back after two weeks of playing.

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Speaker 1: They had never been able to really play before.

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Speaker 8: And with this device and connecting it to a second

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Speaker 8: one or even a dual sense, all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: Many more games become available to them. Ninety dollars.

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Speaker 2: Joseph Hodge with the American Printing House for the Blind

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Speaker 2: was showing off what I could best describe as a

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Speaker 1: So this is the monarch.

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Speaker 9: It's a revolutionary braille slash tactographics device.

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Speaker 5: So you can actually have for the.

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Speaker 9: First time ten lines of refreshing braill that's thirty two

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Speaker 1: Not been done before correct.

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Speaker 9: And the other thing I can do is show images

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Speaker 1: So what do you think the benefit of this is

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Speaker 9: School students like I grew up in the going through

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Speaker 9: I wrote is actually laid out without having to emboss

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Speaker 9: it and braille you know, on a printer is huge.

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Speaker 1: The other real.

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Speaker 9: Major thing is this is going to be a book

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Speaker 9: reader as well, so the kids will have like their

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Speaker 9: geography or chemistry book on here.

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 9: Time to fingertips right now is like six months from

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Speaker 9: the embossing period. So the idea is that you know,

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Speaker 9: we're gonna be able to actually cut those files so

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Speaker 9: much quicker because we're not having to bind the book.

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Speaker 9: We're not having to you know, put the book together,

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Speaker 1: Finally, I spoke with Michael Jans and he develops an

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Speaker 1: app called Oco. It makes any pedestrian traffic signal accessible

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Speaker 1: using just a smartphone camera and AI so.

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Speaker 10: I can quickly open up the app if you like to.

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Speaker 10: It's just by puting the pointing at a phone towards

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Speaker 10: a walk sign and I'll quickly because you see visual feedbick,

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Speaker 10: but of course there's the audible feedbick, the rapid beep

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Speaker 10: indicating walk sign is on. And the same is true

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Speaker 10: for a vibration. If you hold the phone, there's vibration

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Speaker 10: coming to them as well. And basically people hold the

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Speaker 10: phone at chess level because you can rotate your full

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Speaker 10: body to find potitionallds. So it's also orienting people towards

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Speaker 10: the light and also helping people stay in line while

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Speaker 10: crossing the street because veering off is also a sometimes

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Speaker 10: a challenge for people.

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Speaker 2: Once again, that is the o coapp. Oko. It's available

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Speaker 2: for free for the iPhone.

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Speaker 1: If you want a link, you can go to my

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Speaker 1: website rich on tech Dot TV. Check the show notes.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say the c SUN Assists of Tech conference

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Speaker 1: was excellent. I love the products, but what really stuck

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Speaker 1: with me were the people. So many passionate people in

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Speaker 1: this field, all trying to help other people with these innovations.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up more of your calls at Triple

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Speaker 1: eight Rich one O one.

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Speaker 2: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 2: zero one. You are listening to Rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology at Triple eight Rich one

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Speaker 1: one zero one. Website rich on Tech dot TV. Yes,

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Speaker 1: everything we just mentioned at the Assistive Tech conference is

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Speaker 1: linked up on the website. Just go there and tap

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Speaker 1: the first link that says radio show links. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Diana in Torrance, California. Diana, you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 11: Hi Rich. Hello, Well, I've watched you on KKLA and

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Speaker 11: I used to listen to Leo for a long time

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Speaker 11: on the station. And thank you. Really enjoy your show

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Speaker 11: and thank you for all you do.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for being a part of the family. What

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Speaker 1: can I help you ask?

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Speaker 11: Okay, so I work on Max and I frequently at

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Speaker 11: home I do screen sharing from one Mac MacBook Pro

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Speaker 11: to another, and I wanted to know if when I'm

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Speaker 11: away from home and not on my home network, is

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Speaker 11: there a way I can do that same screen sharing

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Speaker 11: from my iPhone fifteen Pro Max. I'd like to be

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Speaker 11: able to access my home home MacBook pros when I'm

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Speaker 11: not on the home Wi Fi network and do the

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Speaker 11: same kind of thing that I'm able to do as

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Speaker 11: when I am home doing the screen sharing, but from

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Speaker 11: my iPhone. And I'm hoping that it's possible to do that.

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Speaker 1: Now, when you say screen sharing, do you mean you

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Speaker 1: want to remotely access the computer like you just want

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Speaker 1: to work on the computer from wherever you are, okay?

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Speaker 11: And I want to be able to have all the

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Speaker 11: same functionalities when I do the screen sharing, okay, including

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Speaker 11: if I have multiple desktops at the top, I can

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Speaker 11: go to move around to different desktop Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, so that that would more be remote access more

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Speaker 1: than screen sharing, because screen sharing, to me, I would think,

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Speaker 1: is like, you know, you just want to see your

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Speaker 1: iPhone screen on your MacBook computer screen. So I was

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Speaker 1: a little confused, but that was okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I.

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Speaker 11: Wasn't sure what to call it. That Basically I wanted

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Speaker 11: the same kind of functionality.

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Speaker 1: I just want to be able to access your computer

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Speaker 1: form and I.

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Speaker 11: Can log in and I can do all the same

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Speaker 11: kind of stuff, ye as if I were logging in locally.

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Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? Well, there is a remote access remote

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Speaker 1: login functionality on the Mac, so you can try using that,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think that's going to be the best

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Speaker 1: for what you want to do because I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: really how that works from the iPhone. But I think

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Speaker 1: I think the best app for you is Team Viewer.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of this?

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Speaker 11: Yes, I have on your show.

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Speaker 1: Have you tried it? Okay, So I think that's going

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Speaker 1: to be the easiest because it's it's free for personal use,

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Speaker 1: so it's going to be very easy, lightlifting for you

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Speaker 1: to try it out and see if it works. But

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Speaker 1: Team Viewer is probably going to be the best because

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Speaker 1: you can set that up on your computer and set

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Speaker 1: it up once with a password, and then you can

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Speaker 1: remote log in from your other devices. So that's going

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Speaker 1: to probably be the easiest and it's free. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's not much more. Now since you heard me talk

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Speaker 1: about this, I use this often with my mom across

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Speaker 1: the country, and when she's having a problem, she just says, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to connect, and you know, we have it

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Speaker 1: set up where she has the ability to give me

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Speaker 1: a new password every time, just for privacy reasons and that.

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Speaker 1: But you can set it up where you have full

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Speaker 1: access of your computer anytime you want.

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Speaker 11: So that and I can do that from my iPhone

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Speaker 11: when I'm away from home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, I don't think that's going to be the

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Speaker 1: best experience because the iPhone screen is tiny, so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's really not going to be the best experience from

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Speaker 1: the iPhone. Maybe an iPad would be a better solution.

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Speaker 11: Okay, okay, but you know there's to do that from

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Speaker 11: other Apple devices.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah. Now the other thing is there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of programs that you can use. So have you

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Speaker 1: heard of Go to my PC? Yes, so that's a

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Speaker 1: paid version of this, and so you can check that out. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's going to be another option, and that's

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Speaker 1: a you know many It just depends what your needs are.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of these things are built into the

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Speaker 1: operating systems at a certain level. But if you want

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Speaker 1: it to be super easy and just super. You know,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to really think about much. I think

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Speaker 1: Team Viewer is going to be the easiest.

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Speaker 11: Oh okay, yeah, I was mainly looking for a free solution.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Oh then yeah, And I know that you had mentioned

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Speaker 11: something like Apple Remote Desktop before on on the Max,

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Speaker 11: but I'm not I don't really know what that does.

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Speaker 11: And I saw that that's paid.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Well, the Apple Remote Desktop I think

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Speaker 1: is just a little bit trickier to set up. But

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Speaker 1: if you can set that up on your Mac and

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Speaker 1: get it, but I just I just don't know if

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Speaker 1: it works through the iPhone. That's my issue.

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Speaker 11: But you know that team Viewer will work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Team Viewer will work. It works from a variety

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Speaker 1: of like it has apps for basically all the major platforms.

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Speaker 11: So oh that's awesome, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: That's the one i'd go through first. Is it raining

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Speaker 1: over there in Torrance?

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Speaker 11: You know what they've been saying, it was going to

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Speaker 11: rain on and off, scattered showers, But at the moment

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Speaker 11: in Torrance, it's not raining, and there's like partial blue sky.

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Speaker 1: Oh there you go, see looking looking right out there?

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Speaker 1: All right, Diana, make sure you go to the website.

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Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot TV. Let me know if the

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Speaker 1: solution works, can help more folks when we share these

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Speaker 1: kinds of things. Thanks for the call today, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Bruce in Los Angeles. Bruce, you're on

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Speaker 1: with Rich.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Rich, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. What can I help you with?

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Speaker 12: Well, it's just a quick question. It's about USB powered

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Speaker 12: portable storage devices.

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Speaker 13: I've been using Seagate five.

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Speaker 12: Terabyte hard drives and I'm looking for something a little

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Speaker 12: bit higher capacity. Does anything exist that's more than five terabytes?

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Speaker 14: Is really my basic question?

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Speaker 1: And if so, what do you recommend, oh, for a

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Speaker 1: hard drive or for a or for a USB like

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Speaker 1: a stick.

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Speaker 12: For a portable of USB hard drive that I don't

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Speaker 12: need an.

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Speaker 1: External power source for. Okay, Uh, well, let's see we

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Speaker 1: I mean, I assumed you've looked on Amazon. The highest

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Speaker 1: that I've gotten so far as five terabytes, so I

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Speaker 1: haven't looked at something over that. Have you found? Is

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Speaker 1: there anything on Amazon over five terabytes?

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Speaker 14: Uh?

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Speaker 15: Not that I can find.

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Speaker 12: That's what I was That was my question. Or maybe

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Speaker 12: you know something about the future of that technology is

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Speaker 12: or they is something bigger capacity in the in the words.

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Speaker 2: For the future.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think these things get bigger every you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of years, and it's really the expense, I

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Speaker 1: think is the main thing. The brands. You know, there

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Speaker 1: are a couple of main brands that people like for

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Speaker 1: sort of these these small USBC drives and obviously, uh

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Speaker 1: I say Lacey it's maybe l C, L A C

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Speaker 1: I E. But that is one that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people like.

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Speaker 5: For that.

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Speaker 1: Uh G Drive is Let's see do they even have

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Speaker 1: those anymore? Uh G drive is a is another brand

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Speaker 1: that people like. Let's see that's from Western Digital and

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Speaker 1: those are pro drives. But the problem is a lot

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Speaker 1: of those Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. So just

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Speaker 1: looking up, like just from what I've seen most of

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Speaker 1: the time, I haven't really seen something bigger than the

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Speaker 1: five terabytes you have to go into sort of the

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Speaker 1: premium brand. So I'm looking at this Western Digital black

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Speaker 1: capacity up to two terabytes, up to four terabytes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not really finding something over that. Yeah, even for

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Speaker 1: these yeah, five terabytes seems to be the max right now.

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Speaker 1: Off the top of my head, I think a good

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Speaker 1: you know, this is obviously getting into the prosumer sort

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Speaker 1: of market because most consumers are not carrying around a

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Speaker 1: five terabyte drive, or if they are, that's the highest

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Speaker 1: they're carrying around. So I have to do a little

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Speaker 1: bit more research and see if there's something out there

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Speaker 1: that's better than this. But I think the five terabyte

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Speaker 1: is probably going to be widely available for most consumers.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that there's not something higher out

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Speaker 1: there that's going to be more expensive, or something that

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Speaker 1: is from more of a professional brand. So we've got

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Speaker 1: an AB show coming up in Las Vegas, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we will see some drives there that have a

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Speaker 1: higher capacity that are not powered. But right now, everything

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Speaker 1: that I'm seeing in just a quick quick scan here

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Speaker 1: of some of these brands looks like that five terrorbyte

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Speaker 1: drive is the limit. But that doesn't mean it's not

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Speaker 1: out there. It could be the other brand. Check one

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Speaker 1: more OWC. They usually have other world computing. They usually

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Speaker 1: have a lot of SSD drives and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So let me just see here portable drives. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got me curious. Let's see portable drive. They've

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Speaker 1: got a bunch. Let's see Envoy. Nope, what's their max here?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Eighty eight?

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Speaker 1: Rich one on one. While I look at this eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight seven four two four one zero one. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it looks like they're four terabytes. You are listening to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro.

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Speaker 1: Here we're listening to the new Ariana Grande song, and

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Speaker 1: it sounds like she's talking about technology. See this is

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Speaker 1: what our relationship is with technology. How appropriate, Ariana? Thank you.

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Speaker 1: See she's talking about your phone and your computer. Bobo says,

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Speaker 1: only I would would take that from this song lyrics, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Eight eight eight rich

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Speaker 1: anti trust lawsuit against Apple from the US government. I

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Speaker 1: read the entire thing, Yes, I did, and I picked

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Speaker 1: Read it for free enjoy. Let's go to Sarah in Ventura, California.

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Speaker 1: Sorry you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 16: Hi. I have an Android phone and I had antivirus

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Speaker 16: on it my eset. It wouldn't allow me to update,

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Speaker 16: and so I thought I would delete it and then

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Speaker 16: reinstall it.

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Speaker 17: But then my.

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Speaker 16: Google Play it said it kept whirling, and it said

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Speaker 16: try again later. And then after a few hours of

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Speaker 16: trying this, I figured out the the Google Play is

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Speaker 16: not going to work, and I don't know. On the tablet,

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Speaker 16: the Google Play stopped working.

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Speaker 1: Also on both your phone and your tablet. Yes, Well,

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Speaker 1: that sounds like a network issue, because there's they're not

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Speaker 1: they're not They're not connected in any way between the

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Speaker 1: two devices. So are you on your home Wi Fi?

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Speaker 16: Yes, But this happened on the the phone after the

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Speaker 16: tablet that just the Google Play wouldn't work on that.

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Speaker 1: Well, it won't update any of your apps at first.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and then now it won't do anything. It just

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Speaker 16: says try again later.

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Speaker 1: Try again. Well, here's the deal. Google Play is up

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Speaker 1: and running. It is working, So this is definitely either

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00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: an issue with your network at home, So I would

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00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: check to see if you have any sort of VPN

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Speaker 1: or anything running on your phone or your network your router,

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Speaker 1: turn that off and try to update your apps again. Now,

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Speaker 1: on Android, things can get a little wonky sometimes, and

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Speaker 1: if you need to close out an app, there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of ways of doing it. So if you're running

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Speaker 1: a Samsung or a Pixel, just press and hold on

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Speaker 1: the app and you should see a little eye for

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Speaker 1: information right, So if you tap and press that, you

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Speaker 1: will see a whole bunch of things you can do.

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Speaker 1: And on Samsung, specifically, in the lower right hand corner,

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Speaker 1: it says force stop. So if you ever have an

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Speaker 1: app that is acting up, you can force stop it

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Speaker 1: and that means it's gonna close out that app for real.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you can also just kind of swipe up from

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Speaker 1: the bottom of your screen and see all your apps

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Speaker 1: and you can do close all. But this is sort

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Speaker 1: of another way of doing that, so you force close it,

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Speaker 1: it will shut down that app, and then the next

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Speaker 1: time you open that app, it's sort of like restarted

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Speaker 1: and refreshed. So I just did that online. That's one

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Speaker 1: way of doing it. The other way you can do

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Speaker 1: it is if you're really having trouble and this is

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Speaker 1: kind of like a pro tip here. If you're ever

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Speaker 1: having trouble with an app things are just not working,

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Speaker 1: you can go in and clear out the storage that

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Speaker 1: that app is using. It's the data and the cash,

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Speaker 1: and that will also restart an app to its factory

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Speaker 1: fresh format. So sometimes even if you reinstall an app

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Speaker 1: from Google Play, it may just like pick up where

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Speaker 1: it left off. So if you want to completely get

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Speaker 1: rid of everything that app is storing on your phone,

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Speaker 1: all the cookies, all the data, anything that it may

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Speaker 1: remember about you, you can go in and clear the storage.

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Speaker 1: So let me show you how you do that same

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. Just take any old app on your phone,

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Speaker 1: press and hold on it. You should see a little

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Speaker 1: eye in the upper right hand corner of that app.

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Speaker 1: You tap that, that will bring you into what's called

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Speaker 1: the app info. This is kind of behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of the app. It shows you your privacy information, how

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Speaker 1: much mobile data it's used, how much battery it's used,

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Speaker 1: how much storage it's using. But then go ahead and

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Speaker 1: tap under where it says storage. You tap storage and

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Speaker 1: now it tells you. So, for instance, my Facebook is

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Speaker 1: using four hundred and sixty eight megabytes of app it's got.

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Speaker 1: The app is four hundred and sixty eight megabytes, the

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Speaker 1: data on my phone is three hundred and fifty nine megabytes,

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Speaker 1: the cash is four hundred and fifteen megabytes, for a

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Speaker 1: total of one point two four gigabytes. So if I

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Speaker 1: press clear data and clear cash down to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of my screen, that will reset the Facebook app to

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Speaker 1: factory default, which means the next time I open that app,

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Speaker 1: it's going to ask me to log in and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to have to go through that whole flow again.

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Speaker 1: So you can do that with Google Play, and I

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Speaker 1: will do that right now and see what happens. So

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00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: let's go through the storage and I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: clear the data, clear the cash, and now let's see

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Speaker 1: what happens. When I open up Google Play, it's looking

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Speaker 1: for updates fresh and it's scanning the apps for any issues.

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00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: And I just noticed that. Yeah, so now it's just

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Speaker 1: found all my new downloads, so that's probably what you

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Speaker 1: want to do. That's what I'd recommend doing, ERA and

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Speaker 1: seeing if that helps. It sounds like you've got something

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Speaker 1: just kind of stuck or hung on that phone. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The other thing you could do before you do all

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Speaker 1: that is just restart your devices and hopefully that helps out.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call today from Ventura, California. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Frank in Ontario, California. Frank, you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 18: All Rich a question for you.

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Speaker 19: I've tried multiple docing stations to try to connect a

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Speaker 19: MacBook and multiple screens because i home I have two

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Speaker 19: screens to monitors and it won't allow me. But I

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Speaker 19: use a Dell or use an HP laptop and I'm

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Speaker 19: able to do it except for the Mac.

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Speaker 1: Well, see this is why Apple's under fire. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: just kidding. So a couple of things on the Mac,

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Speaker 1: so you gotta you gotta check what kind of Mac

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Speaker 1: do you have?

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Speaker 19: It's actually my daughter, so I'm not sure which was his.

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Speaker 19: The lan't one?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the deal. There are many many ways

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Speaker 1: you can connect the Mac to an external display, and

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to link up a help page on

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Speaker 1: the show notes. Because it depends what computer you have,

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Speaker 1: you have to have a couple things that work together. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Number one, you have to look at your Mac and

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Speaker 1: see and I'm just gonna put you on a hold

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Speaker 1: here because I hear a little bit of feedback. So

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Speaker 1: first off, you have to look at your Mac and

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Speaker 1: see what kind of ports it has for connecting screens.

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Speaker 1: Some of them have just straight up USBC, some of

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Speaker 1: them have Thunderbolt, some of them have HDMI, and some

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Speaker 1: have displayporters. So you have to go and identify what

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Speaker 1: kind of icon is on your computer and what kind

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Speaker 1: of port that is, and that will help you understand

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Speaker 1: what kind of monitor you can connect. Now you can

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Speaker 1: also see how many screens your specific Mac can support.

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Speaker 1: So some can only do one screen at a time,

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Speaker 1: some can do multiple screens at the same time. Again,

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Speaker 1: by identifying your Mac model, you will be able to

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Speaker 1: see where you stand with that, and then you need

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Speaker 1: to have the right cable to connect. If you don't

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Speaker 1: have the right cable, you might need an adapter if

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Speaker 1: your monitor, say, doesn't support DisplayPort or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So once everything's figured out and you know what you're

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Speaker 1: working with. Then you can decide what kind of dock

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Speaker 1: you need, and what kind of cables you need, and

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Speaker 1: of course what kind of monitor you need. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: easiest way is probably going to be a Thunderbolt with

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Speaker 1: a DisplayPort or sorry, a Thunderbolt and HDMI is going

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Speaker 1: to be the easiest because those are the most straightforward.

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Speaker 1: But you can also look at some of these different docks.

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Speaker 1: The brands that you want to look at are Kensington

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00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: and also Belkan and also Anchor, and they are called

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Speaker 1: a dock basically where you plug your computer into the

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Speaker 1: dock and then you can plug the monitor into that

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Speaker 1: dock as well. So that's probably gonna be the easiest,

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking at Wirecutter. Some of these docks can

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Speaker 1: be quite expensive. The cheapest one they recommend is a

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Speaker 1: Monoprice Thunderbolt three dual DisplayPort docking station one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fourteen dollars from Amazon. So it really depends. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: can connect your computer just directly, and sometimes you might

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Speaker 1: need a special cable or you might need a special

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Speaker 1: type of monitor that can connect to that computer. But

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Speaker 1: I will link up this little help page on the

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Speaker 1: notes and you will see how to identify your Mac

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Speaker 1: probably the most straightforward because every monitor has HDMI, and

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Speaker 1: connecting a TV. All right, eighty to eight rich one

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Speaker 1: zero one. Coming up this hour, we are going to

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Speaker 1: talk to Jason Rhodes. He is a senior research scientist

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Speaker 1: at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. He's gonna tell us what

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Speaker 1: we need to know about this total solar eclipse happening

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Speaker 1: on April eighth. Are you excited. It's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a bummer for California, he'll explain, but in many

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Speaker 1: parts of the US you will be able to see this.

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Speaker 1: My name is rich Dmuro. You are listening to rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro

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Speaker 1: here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple eight

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Speaker 1: Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. YouTube is introducing new

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Speaker 1: tools for disclosing AI generated content. So if you are

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Speaker 1: on YouTube or you upload to YouTube, this affects you.

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Speaker 1: AI is obviously having a huge impact on content creation.

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Speaker 1: People are making a lot of photos with it, and

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Speaker 1: videos is the next big thing, and so of course

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Speaker 1: YouTube wants to have something in place to understand when

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Speaker 1: you are watching something that is AI generated. So first off,

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Speaker 1: now in creator studio, this is when folks upload stuff

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Speaker 1: to YouTube, they will be asked to take a questionnaire

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Speaker 1: and they will have to disclose when their videos contain

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Speaker 1: realistic content that could be mistaken for real people, real places, scenes,

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Speaker 1: or events. Now they don't have to disclose when it's

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Speaker 1: clearly an unrealistic event like in animation special effects, or

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Speaker 1: when they use AI to write their scripts any sort

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Speaker 1: of like planning like scripts, captions, or whatever. Labels will

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Speaker 1: appear in the expanded description for most videos, while more

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Speaker 1: sensitive topics will have a prominent label on the video itself,

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Speaker 1: so right when you fire up that video, it will say, hey,

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Speaker 1: this has this contains AI. Now, if creators don't say

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Speaker 1: that their stuff contains AI and YouTube scans it and

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Speaker 1: finds out that it does, there may be labels that

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Speaker 1: are applied to that automatically, or they may be demonetized,

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Speaker 1: so they won't be able to make money on the

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Speaker 1: views on these things if they don't disclose it. Now,

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Speaker 1: this obviously is not very cut and dry. There is

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Speaker 1: going to be a lot of AI generated content that

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Speaker 1: is not identified that YouTube can identify, and that's going

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Speaker 1: to be a very tricky area. But for creators who

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Speaker 1: are trying to stay within the rules, this is the

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Speaker 1: new rule that they must abide by if they want

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Speaker 1: to stay in good standing with YouTube. But as we know,

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Speaker 1: our world is going to become a very interesting place

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Speaker 1: with AI already. I mean, you thought the green screen

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Speaker 1: was tricky. I mean green screen is nothing. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can replace the background. We thought that was cool

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Speaker 1: when you zoomed and you're sitting at home and it

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Speaker 1: looks like you're in a palace or whatever. No, green

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Speaker 1: screen is nothing compared to what AI will be able

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Speaker 1: to create in the next let's call it a year

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Speaker 1: to two. Right now, it's just at the very beginning,

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Speaker 1: but people are going to be creating entire cartoons, entire

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Speaker 1: realistic looking short films, instagram reels, tiktoks, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: it's AI. They will type in something on a website

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Speaker 1: and AI will do the rest. So we have to

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Speaker 1: be very aware of this, and especially with the election,

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Speaker 1: especially with news. I mean literally, remember when we saw

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Speaker 1: that video of the Alaska Airlines the door that popped out.

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Speaker 1: We didn't know if that was real or not. You're

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Speaker 1: sitting there like, is this real? Am I being punked?

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Speaker 1: Right now? Half the stuff you see on YouTube and TikTok,

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Speaker 1: you wonder is this real? Is it fake? Is it

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Speaker 1: somehow altered? And yes, people who are playing by the

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Speaker 1: rules big you know, mister beasts of the world, they

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Speaker 1: will play by the rules and they will label their videos.

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Speaker 1: But for every one of them, there's one hundred other

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Speaker 1: people who are just uploading trash that are not playing

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Speaker 1: by the rules because they don't care. And guess who.

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Speaker 1: It's up to us, the humans that watch this stuff,

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Speaker 1: to sit there with a critical eye and say, hmm,

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Speaker 1: is this real? Is this fake? And it takes a

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Speaker 1: while for us to figure that out sometimes. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: what just happened with this whole Caate Middleton thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just wild that, you know, we're in there looking

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Speaker 1: at pictures and analyzing them, and then she's walking down

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Speaker 1: the street and we're analyzing that, and then of course

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Speaker 1: the real story comes out. What was really happening and

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Speaker 1: of course it's very heartbreaking. But again, anything we see,

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Speaker 1: or do, or experience in this world, unless we are

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Speaker 1: there for ourselves, it's going to get a whole lot trick. Here,

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Speaker 1: let's go to David in Los Angeles. David, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 18: Hey Rich, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic. How are you very good?

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Speaker 18: I love your show.

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Speaker 1: By the way, thank you.

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Speaker 18: I hope we can do it on Sundays as well. Anyway,

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Speaker 18: quick question, I'll try and get two questions quickly. I

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Speaker 18: use Apple Maps quite a lot and I like to

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Speaker 18: find the directions before I go. So when I put

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Speaker 18: it in the car on the map player in the car,

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Speaker 18: you can't get directions. It says you have to be

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Speaker 18: on the internet. Well, how can you be on the

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Speaker 18: internet during the car?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it could use cellular.

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Speaker 18: No, it doesn't work on you won't get that. You

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Speaker 18: can get the directions on the phone, but not actually

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Speaker 18: on the screen on the in the car. It won't

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Speaker 18: come up.

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Speaker 1: Hmm. I've never had that issue. Are you talking Apple

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Speaker 1: Maps or Google Maps? Which one?

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Speaker 18: Apple Maps? It doesn't work. And then it said if

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Speaker 18: you Google it, it says, oh, only have to be

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Speaker 18: on the internet. Have you tried it? You can get

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Speaker 18: it on the phone, but usually my phone's stuck in

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Speaker 18: the middle.

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Speaker 1: Of the Oh right, yes, okay, well that is really yes,

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Speaker 1: I agree that is annoying. Well, there is a new

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Speaker 1: feature on Apple Maps which they just added. Have you

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Speaker 1: downloaded the offline maps for your city? Okay? Well that

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Speaker 1: should solve it then. So what you want to do

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Speaker 1: is go into Apple Maps and search los Angeles. Are

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Speaker 1: you in? Where are you los Angeles?

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Speaker 18: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Search Los Angeles and you will see a new button

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Speaker 1: pop up that says download, and so that will download

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Speaker 1: the offline maps for your area. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: if you download all of Los Angeles, it's one gig

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Speaker 1: one point two to one gigabytes. Now that will solve

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Speaker 1: a lot of the problems because what happens is it

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Speaker 1: will still be able to get those directions for you

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Speaker 1: when it's in that no man's land of Are you

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Speaker 1: in the Wi Fi? Are you in the you know

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Speaker 1: the cellular? You know, when I'm in my driveway, That's

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Speaker 1: what happens every day. It's like I can't do anything

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Speaker 1: on my car until I drive down halfway down the street.

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Speaker 1: But this will help you at least get your directions

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Speaker 1: when Why did.

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Speaker 18: It used to work but then he went off? Why

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Speaker 18: would they take it off? You can't see on the

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Speaker 18: scuing itself. It seems a bit ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I'm not sure I'm nuss er on

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Speaker 1: that one, but yes, things change. But hopefully this should

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Speaker 1: help you out in that in between. And what happens

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Speaker 1: is it will get the preliminary directions and then once

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Speaker 1: it regains that signal and gets that Internet signal, it

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Speaker 1: will update the directions with any sort of traffic routing

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Speaker 1: or traffic updates or an ETA.

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Speaker 18: So then he can give me directions, but he won't between.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to take a little bit of an update.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, if you're on Google Maps, you

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Speaker 1: should and can do the same thing. Just type in

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Speaker 1: okay maps and enter and that will bring up the

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Speaker 1: secret download this map. And I do that for every

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Speaker 1: city I travel to because you always want to have

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Speaker 1: offline maps in case your cellular is sketchy. All right,

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Speaker 1: coming up, we are going to talk to Jason Rhodes

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Speaker 1: at NASA. This is rich On Tech.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology at

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Speaker 1: triple eight rich one oh one.

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Speaker 2: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 2: zero one. Well, coming up here in the US on

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Speaker 2: April eighth, twenty twenty four, we have a total solar eclipse.

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Speaker 2: And to learn more about this event, I talked to

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Speaker 2: Jason Rhodes, a senior research scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion

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Speaker 2: Laboratory in Pasadena, California. So, first off, I asked him

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Speaker 2: what makes this event so unique.

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Speaker 20: Earth is one of a very few plants that we

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Speaker 20: know of that has an interesting phenomenon. Our moon in

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Speaker 20: the sky is about the same size as the Sun,

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Speaker 20: and so when the Moon passes exactly in front of

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Speaker 20: the Sun, it's just large enough to block out the Sun.

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Speaker 20: And that's what we call a total solar eclipse. So

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Speaker 20: the last total solar eclipse in the United States was

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Speaker 20: in twenty seventeen, so only seven years ago. But the

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Speaker 20: next total solar eclipse in the United States is about

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Speaker 20: twenty years in the future, in twenty forty four.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'll be completely honest here. When the total solar

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Speaker 2: eclipse happened in twenty seventeen, I covered it, but I

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Speaker 2: wasn't really enthusiastic about it. I'm not even sure I

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Speaker 2: went outside to see it happen, but this time around,

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited, even though in California, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: have a view of the total solar eclipse. So I

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Speaker 2: was just curious. From Jason's standpoint, what captivates the general

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Speaker 2: public about total solar eclipses.

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Speaker 20: Well as a scientist, one of the exciting things about

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Speaker 20: a total solar eclipse is that with the Moon blocking

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Speaker 20: the day of the Sun, we can see the atmosphere

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Speaker 20: of the Sun, or what we call the corona of

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Speaker 20: the sun. Corona is Latin for crown. This is the

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Speaker 20: outer layer of the Sun that extends much further than

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Speaker 20: the surface of the Sun. But it's not nearly as

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Speaker 20: bright as the surface of the Sun, and so to

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Speaker 20: study it and see it, we need to be able

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Speaker 20: to block out the Sun, and so we can do

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Speaker 20: that with a solar eclipse, or scientists have developed instruments

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Speaker 20: called corona graphs that allow us to block the Sun

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Speaker 20: and see that corona or atmosphere of the Sun. However,

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Speaker 20: when we do that, it's not something that you can

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Speaker 20: go outside and stand there with your special eclipse classes

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Speaker 20: and see this happen. So that's what excites me as

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Speaker 20: a scientist, but as a human, I've seen only one

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Speaker 20: solar eclipse, but it was really an amazing, sort of

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Speaker 20: life changing experience to watch the sun go dark and

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Speaker 20: fuel night happen all of a sudden, listen to the

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Speaker 20: animals go silent because they're a bit confused, and just

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Speaker 20: see this sort of twilight sky. That's just an amazing

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Speaker 20: and moving experience.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to experience this total solar eclipse,

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Speaker 1: you have to prepare. It's not visible everywhere in the nation.

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Speaker 1: It stretches from Texas to Maine. And so I ask Jason,

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Speaker 1: if you want to prepare for this, what do you

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Speaker 1: have to do?

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Speaker 20: So you need to go into the path of totality,

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Speaker 20: that is where there will be a solar eclipse, and

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Speaker 20: that's a path that stretches in the US from about

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Speaker 20: Texas up into the northeast.

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Speaker 13: You want to go.

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Speaker 20: Where there's not going to be clouds and keep your

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Speaker 20: fingers crossed that it's not cloudy. And the important thing

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Speaker 20: is as the eclipse is coming, you want to wear

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Speaker 20: special eclipse glasses that are going to protect your eyes

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Speaker 20: once the eclipse happens. And the totality happens, you can

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Speaker 20: take those glasses off.

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Speaker 13: Because the sun is.

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Speaker 20: Blocked to never look directly at the Sun, you can

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Speaker 20: really damage your eyes. Even if you don't feel the pain,

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Speaker 20: that light coming from the Sun damage your eyes. And

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Speaker 20: this is especially true as the Sun is being eclipsed

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Speaker 20: by the Moon, because it starts to get darker, but

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Speaker 20: there's still enough light to damage your eyes. And it's

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Speaker 20: only when the Moon is completely covering the Sun in

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Speaker 20: that total eclipse, which just happens for a few minutes,

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Speaker 20: that you can take those glasses off and just be

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Speaker 20: in the moment and experience this eclipse.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is where your Amazon Prime membership comes in.

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Speaker 1: You have to get a pair of solar eclipse glasses.

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Speaker 2: You can get them on Amazon.

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Speaker 1: A ten pack runs about fifteen dollars. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: don't do that, there is a DIY solution.

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Speaker 20: So one of the things you could do is create

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Speaker 20: what we call a pinhole camera. You take a piece

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Speaker 20: of paper or a piece of cardboard and you make

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Speaker 20: a hole in it and you use that hole as

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Speaker 20: sort of put that between another piece of paper and

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Speaker 20: the sun, and the light from the Sun will come

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Speaker 20: through that hole. And make an image of the eclipse

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Speaker 20: on the other piece of paper or on the ground.

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Speaker 20: But I really strongly recommend that if you're going to

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Speaker 20: be where you can see the eclipse, to get those glasses,

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Speaker 20: because it'll allow you to experience the full grandeur and

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Speaker 20: splendor of the eclipse.

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Speaker 1: If you don't live in the path of totality and

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Speaker 1: you're not going to travel somewhere to get in that path,

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Speaker 1: I was curious if it's still worth it to even

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Speaker 1: go outside.

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Speaker 20: I think it's completely worth going outside and taking a

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Speaker 20: look if you're not in the path of totality, because

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Speaker 20: you can still see a partial eclipse where the disk

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Speaker 20: of the moon will go across part of the Sun,

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Speaker 20: and that's still a really interesting thing to see.

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Speaker 13: That's a unique experience for most people.

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Speaker 1: What I think is really neat about any sort of

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Speaker 1: natural phenomenon is that it gets people interested in science

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Speaker 1: and nature, especially kids and even adults.

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Speaker 20: I think for a lot of humanity's history, people didn't

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Speaker 20: understand when eclipses were gonna happen or what was happening,

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Speaker 20: and it was scary to see the Sun move away.

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Speaker 20: But in the last few hundred years, science has allowed

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Speaker 20: us first to understand what the eclipse meant. It was

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Speaker 20: just the Moon going in front of the Sun. Then

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Speaker 20: to predict these eclipses, and then to use the eclipses

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Speaker 20: to study the universe. And there are a few ways

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Speaker 20: that we've done that. Of course, there was an eclipse.

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Speaker 20: When there's an eclipse, we can look at the atmosphere

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Speaker 20: of the Sun, and that's a really exciting thing that

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Speaker 20: we're not able to do otherwise.

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Speaker 13: And about one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 20: There was an eclipse that people used to prove Einstein's

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Speaker 20: theory of relativity, that is, our theory of gravity. Just

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Speaker 20: a few years after Einstein posed this theory. They looked

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Speaker 20: at the motions of stars that were distorted by the Sun,

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Speaker 20: and they couldn't see those stars until there was an eclipse.

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Speaker 13: So there was a race to go where the eclipse

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Speaker 13: was going to be.

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Speaker 20: Because Einstein's theory relativity had predicted that we would see

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Speaker 20: something amazing during that eclipse, and sure enough we did.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 20: Eclipses are a huge victory for science in predicting and

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Speaker 20: understanding eclipses and using them to understand a lot about nature.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of science, wait until you hear about the project

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Speaker 1: that Jason is working on.

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Speaker 20: So one of the missions that I work on here

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Speaker 20: at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory is the Nancy Grace Roman

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Speaker 20: Space Telescope, and Roman will have an instrument called a coronagraph,

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Speaker 20: And these coronagraphs were originally developed to block out the

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Speaker 20: Sun so you could see the corona or the atmosphere

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Speaker 20: of the Sun. But the coronagraph on the Roman Space Telescope,

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Speaker 20: which is scheduled for launch in twenty twenty seven, will

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Speaker 20: actually block out the discs of distant stars to allow

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Speaker 20: us to see the planets around those stars. And we

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Speaker 20: call those planets exoplanets. So it's going to be an

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Speaker 20: instrument that creates an artificial eclipse to allow us to

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Speaker 20: study planets outside of our Solar system.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get someone at NASA interested in outer space.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 20: I grew up reading a lot of science, reading science fiction,

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Speaker 20: and I've always had a strong desire to understand how

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Speaker 20: the universe works. And I fulfilled my wish by working

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Speaker 20: at the best place in the world, NASA, whose mission

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Speaker 20: it is to understand how the universe works. So a

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Speaker 20: lot of the technology that makes our lives better and

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Speaker 20: makes our lives longer and healthier comes from understanding how

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Speaker 20: the universe works. And there's a lot of knock on

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Speaker 20: effects from the understanding of the universe that allow us

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Speaker 20: to live better, fuller lives. And I'll give you one example.

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Speaker 20: I talked earlier about Einstein's theory of relativity, and the

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Speaker 20: first proof of that theory was using an eclipse. But

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Speaker 20: Einstein's theory of relativity is what allows GPS to work.

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Speaker 20: It allows us to use our smartphone to navigate. And

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Speaker 20: so when Einstein was coming up with that theory, he

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Speaker 20: of course had no vision for the future that it

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Speaker 20: was going to use.

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Speaker 13: People were going to use GPS so that they could navigate.

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Speaker 20: But one of the things in understanding universe it allows

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Speaker 20: us to create these technologies like GPS, which make our

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Speaker 20: lives better and safer.

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Speaker 1: When I asked Jason if you had one last piece

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Speaker 1: of advice, I was surprised at his an.

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Speaker 20: Sir, Yes, I do have one piece of advice, and

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Speaker 20: that is, don't try to take a movie of the

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Speaker 20: eclipse with your phone or a picture of the eclipse

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Speaker 20: with your phone. Just be in the moment, experience the eclipse,

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Speaker 20: look at it, and I guarantee you you will remember

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01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 20: it for the rest of your life, whether you have a.

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Speaker 13: Picture of it or not.

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Speaker 20: So if you want to google NASA and U for instance,

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Speaker 20: the Roman Space Telescope, that's a great way to find

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Speaker 20: out things that I'm working on. Another great resource is

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Speaker 20: the Planetary Society. That's a great resource for space in general.

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Speaker 20: And if you want to find out more about the

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Speaker 20: eclipse and where you can watch it and how you

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Speaker 20: should watch it, I think the Planetary Society website is

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Speaker 20: a really good resource.

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Speaker 2: My thanks to Jason Rhodes, Senior research scientist at NASA's

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Speaker 2: Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

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Speaker 1: All right, if you have a question about technology, give

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Speaker 1: Two four one zero one, or rich on Tech coming

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Speaker 1: your way right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking tech at

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Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. The website

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Speaker 1: for the show rich on Tech dot tv. Just click

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Speaker 1: the toplink that says radio show. I she'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what it actually says. Probably would help right it says, well,

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Speaker 1: has the phone number for the show, says radio show links,

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Speaker 1: and then it's got the date for this weekend. So

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Speaker 1: that's where you can find the links. And people often

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Speaker 1: email me and they say, hey, did you post this

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Speaker 1: on the links? Yes, everything is on the show links.

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Speaker 1: You'll be very surprised just how good I am with

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Speaker 1: the show notes. They are very, very thorough. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I wanted to circle back to Diana and Torrance.

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Speaker 1: She wanted some remote desktop software to access her MacBook

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Speaker 1: Pro remotely talked about Team Viewer, which is free, or

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01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: of course go to my PC, which is paid. But

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Speaker 1: I was consulting with my tech brother and I said, hey,

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01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: is there a you know, a better thing than some

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Speaker 1: of these things that we were talking about. And he

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Speaker 1: also recommended an open source alternative is rust desk are

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Speaker 1: U s T d E s K. And I love

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Speaker 1: any open source alternative software that's just you know, free

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Speaker 1: and let's see, well, hold on, let me see if

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Speaker 1: this is free. This may not be free. Hold on, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: self hosting is free, so you kind of, you know,

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01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: you may need to know a little bit if you

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Speaker 1: want to self host this. But it's nice to have

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Speaker 1: options out there. And by the way, the other website

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Speaker 1: that I like if you ever looking for something like

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Speaker 1: let's say you know an app right and you want

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01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: to find something that's similar to that app. The website

1253
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Speaker 1: I like for finding that software is called alternative two

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01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: dot net alternative to dot net. So let's say you

1255
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: like Evernoe. You can type in evernote and then it

1256
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: will show you all the alternatives to that program. It's

1257
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: a really nice way of finding apps that are similar

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Speaker 1: to what you already know. But maybe you're looking for

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Speaker 1: something better or with different functionality, or that's free, or

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Speaker 1: that's cross platform, and that's always a good way to

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Speaker 1: do it. One of the things I did not mention

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Speaker 1: when I was talking about the whole case against Apple,

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Speaker 1: and you've heard me say this on this show many

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Speaker 1: many times now. I love Apple. I think they have

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Speaker 1: done incredible things. They have really really just kind of

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01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: pushed the envelope in a lot of ways with what

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Speaker 1: our phones can do and how we do things. But

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Speaker 1: I also do take issue with some of the ways

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Speaker 1: that they do things. And if you've listened to this show,

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Speaker 1: you know that I have a major issue with the

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Speaker 1: fact that they do not allow I Message on Android.

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Speaker 1: Apple should have come out with the I Message for

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Speaker 1: Android app years ago. It would have solved a lot

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Speaker 1: of these problems, because that is the main point of

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Speaker 1: contention among most people now downloading third party apps and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Sure you can argue that, you know,

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Speaker 1: techy people like myself have a problem with that in

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Speaker 1: some of the ways that the iPhone operating system works

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Speaker 1: and some of the access you get to some of

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Speaker 1: the features and the hardware. Yes, I understand all that,

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Speaker 1: but I think for the average person, all they want

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Speaker 1: to do is just send a video to an Android

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Speaker 1: friend and have it work, or an Android friend send

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Speaker 1: a video to an iPhone friend and have that work,

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Speaker 1: or to see typing indicators. And again, these are things

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Speaker 1: that have standards that almost every other company, I should

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Speaker 1: say every company in the world abides by except for Apple.

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Speaker 1: And yes, they will later this year supposedly give us

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Speaker 1: some of those standards with RCS built into the iPhone,

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Speaker 1: but we don't know how they're going to implement it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure there still will be some level of

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Speaker 1: distinction between I message and Android. You know, your friends

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Speaker 1: will probably still show up as a green bubble, even

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Speaker 1: though your picture will be high resolution, which will be great.

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Speaker 1: But I mentioned anytime I talk about Apple apps. You

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Speaker 1: know Apple, when you download the iPhone, they've got all

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Speaker 1: the apps that they want on there. You know, they've

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Speaker 1: got a music app, they've got a notepad app, they've

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Speaker 1: got calendar, email, everything. Guess what, I don't use any

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Speaker 1: of those apps. I don't use any of them because

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Speaker 1: using any of those apps gets you deeper into the

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Speaker 1: Apple ecosystem. Now, if you're only going to use Apple

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Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, sure it works great,

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01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: it's fine. But I want to have options, so I

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01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: always look for what I call cross platform third party apps. So,

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Speaker 1: for instance, my notes app, I use Evernoe because it

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Speaker 1: works everywhere, and it works the same everywhere whereas if

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Speaker 1: I use Apple Notes, it's a great app, it only

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Speaker 1: works on Apple devices. Try using that anywhere else. I

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Speaker 1: just can't recommend it because of that reason. So again,

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these things we're seeing

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Speaker 1: with Apple are things that maybe need to change. I

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01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of opinions on either side, but

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think there's no

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Speaker 1: denying that Apple has done incredible things. But it's just

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01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: the method to their madness that some people take issue with.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Seraphene in Studio City. You are on

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Speaker 1: with Rich. Welcome, Hi Rich.

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Speaker 17: I'm the artist that calls you every once in a while.

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01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: Oh how's the art going.

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Speaker 11: Oh awesome?

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Speaker 14: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good to hear.

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Speaker 17: And I love the rain too, so that I can,

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01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 17: you know, anyway, get to the point.

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Speaker 1: No, I love the rain. I'm telling I love the rain.

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Speaker 1: I first thing I did this morning was open up

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01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: my back door to have the rain sound. I think

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01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: the rain is great, although we've got a lot of

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: it in California. Anyway, how can I help?

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01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 17: Okay, I am hearing impaired. I don't hear high frequencies.

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Speaker 17: My iPhone works fine, the volume is great. Called tech

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01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 17: support last night with Apple and said, okay, I have

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01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 17: a MacBook Pro, I have Sonoma, I have fourteen blah

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01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 17: blah blah. I'm up to the latest update. But I

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01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 17: can't turn the volume up as much as I want.

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Speaker 17: I've tried the Beat headphones, I've tried the ear pods.

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01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 17: I keep losing all the cords and all the little

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 17: you know, chargers and all that kind of stuff, and

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01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 17: I just wanted to bring my my my pro into

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01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 17: tech support and saying, put some stronger speakers in, like

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01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 17: you can put in you know, more memory or.

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Speaker 5: Something like that.

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01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: Oh, Saraphine, you know we can't do that with the computer.

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01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: With the MacBook, you can't. You can't replace those speakers.

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01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, in all seriousness, you can't do that with

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01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: almost any laptop. There is one brand out there that

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01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing a story with. Oh gosh, it's I think

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01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: it's called Framework, and they're actually shipping a laptop with

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01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: modular parts. Which, look, I get it. These laptops. They

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01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: are small, they're engineered. Everything with the Apple is sort

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01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: of like, you know, closed up inside. So what did

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: they tell you? You can't replace these speakers?

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01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 2: Right?

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01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 17: I couldn't get past settings sound with the tech support person.

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01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 17: He couldn't comprehend that what I was trying to get to.

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01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think your best bet is probably going

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01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: to be an external speaker. Have you thought about that?

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Speaker 17: I got so many things I know, and I just

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01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 17: want to keep it simple. If I'm out in my

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01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 17: studio working, I want to open up my computer. Fine,

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01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 17: if I go out into my yard, I want to

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 17: open up my computer. Fine, but I don't want to

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01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 17: have to keep carrying, you know, a basket full of attachments.

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01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, I understand that so well. I think that yes,

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01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: I get that, and I think the easiest would be

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01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, there's two ways you can do it, and

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01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: I'm looking on Amazon. You can get a pair of

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01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: Amazon Basics USB speakers that will plug into your laptop

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01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: and that's you know, that'll be a very easy way

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: to get louder sound. Those are fifteen bucks. The only

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: issue is depending on your laptop. They're not USBC, so

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01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what model you have. But I'm looking

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01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: at this app called Have you looked at this boom too? Okay, well,

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01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: I think you should try this because it is a

1376
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: audio enhancement app, so it gives you control over It

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01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: looks like some of the frequencies as well, so you

1378
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: might be able to boost the frequencies that you're having

1379
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: trouble hearing and that might help you. So I would

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01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: definitely try this out. It looks like it's a free trial.

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01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: Let's see how much this is, so.

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01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 17: I'd go through the app store.

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01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go on the website. It's Globaldlight Dot

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: com slash boom two and I will link it up

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: boom and then the number two Globaldlight dot com slash

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01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: boom two and it looks like it's about fourteen bucks

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01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: for the year or thirty two dollars forever. But Saraphine,

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01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,520
Speaker 1: I think that's going to solve a lot of your issues.

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01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's why I love the show. I learned

1390
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: stuff on a daily basis. I love it. Eight eight

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01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: rich one O one eight eight seven four two four

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Speaker 1: one zero one. Coming up, I'll tell you how Google

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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: can help you identify a song by singing it. This

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01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at

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01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven

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01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. Give me a

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01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: call if you have a question about something. So I

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01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: watched the Taylor Swift on Disney Plus last weekend and

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01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I think my wife fell in love

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01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: with me all over again. I just saw her melt

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01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: She's like you do, and I was like yeah, And

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: then of course I played it up a little bit.

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: Let's watch it again sometime, but it was, you know,

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01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: I gotta give her credit. I mean the girl was

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: on there for like three hours plus, singing her heart out.

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01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: It was amazing anyway, So if you haven't watched that,

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01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: it's on Disney Plus. I did wait until it was

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01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: for free on Disney Plus. I didn't see in the movies.

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01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: I didn't pay the twenty dollars as a no, no, no,

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm wait. I pay for all these streaming services. I

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01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: am not paying an extra nickel. If you see my

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01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: kids come up to me, they're like, Dad, can we

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01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: watch that movie? I'm like, is it free? Because I

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01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: pay for everything. In no way am I paying an

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01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: extra nickel for any streaming service.

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01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of streaming, thank you Bobo. So this is pretty cool.

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01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: I found this out through life hacker. Now you know

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01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: Shazam can identify any song that's playing right use his

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01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: little fingerprints on the songs. Well, I thought this was

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01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: pretty cool. You can sing or hum a song and

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01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: Google will figure out the song name. So try it

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01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: out if you have a I think it works on

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01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 1: iPhone as well, but you have to have the Google app,

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01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 1: so Google App or on Android, it just has that

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01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: little Google search bar. So just tap the microphone and

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01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: you can literally see where it says down at the

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: bottom and says search a song. So you tap that

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01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: and now you can just play sing or hum a song.

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01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: So you can literally just speak the words to a song.

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01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: All right, So now we got bad blood, Baby got

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: bad blood. Look what you there? It is Taylor Swift

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01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine bad Blood eight percent. Match. That's how

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01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: bad I am at singing eight percent. But pretty cool? Huh.

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01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean I did not realize that that was built

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01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: into Google Search. So again, go just tap the microphone

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01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: on the Android home screen or go into the Google app.

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01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: Let's see if I go into the Google app on

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01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: iPhone and I tap the same thing. So go into

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01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: the Google app on the iPhone, tap the microphone, and

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01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: then it says search a song, and you can play

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01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: singer hum a song. That is so cool, Bobo, where's

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01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: the applause? Okay? Crickets? Okay, all right, let's go to Uh.

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01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 1: I think Andrew has heard enough. Andrew and Ventura, you're

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01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: on with Rich.

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01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 14: So Apple has screwed up yet another thing. Uh oh,

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01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 14: let's all do.

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01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: So we added to the government's list being a record.

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01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 15: If we go into the app store, sure, I want

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01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 15: to share something with a friend of mine, so I

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01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 15: want to see find this app so I can just

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01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 15: send them a link. So I go into the app

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01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 15: store and at the top right you tap your initials

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01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 15: and then there's purchase history. Sure, and I typed start

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01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 15: to type the name of the app that I want

1457
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 15: purchase history, and it used to just pop right up, but.

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01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:24,560
Speaker 14: Now they're filtering it.

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 15: The default is for paid apps, so I've got a

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01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 15: tap tap tap all apps.

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01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 14: And then I don't know what it was last year,

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01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 14: the year before, and then it still can't find it.

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01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 14: They've really that up.

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01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, as soon as you're saying they did change this interesting,

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01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah they did. Because that's my kid's secret weapon. They

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01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: figure out they can down they they realize because we're

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01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: on family sharing, they can download any app that I've

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01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: downloaded in the past. They can just redownload it in

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01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: puting a kid blocker. Yeah, oh they've gotten they've gotten

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01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: past the kid blockers. My kid is like a fly

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01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: to a light when it comes to YouTube. I'm not kidding.

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01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: I've blocked YouTube on more devices in my house than

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01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: you can imagine, and somehow he finds YouTube on these devices.

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01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean he got a flip phone the other day

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01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 1: and found YouTube on it. I don't know how he

1476
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: does it, but he will figure it out.

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Speaker 14: Great, I can blow half a day on YouTube.

1478
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: Oh well, look, it's great. But when you're a kid

1479
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: and you're flipping through YouTube shorts, it's a lot of

1480
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: nonsense that he doesn't need to be watching at nine

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01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: years old, and soide.

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01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 14: And climb a tree. Yeah, while I'm on my search rant. Sure,

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01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 14: Apple Email lets you combine all your emails, and I've

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01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 14: got like twelve email addresses for personal and business. Sure,

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01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 14: and it searches all of those faster than any desktop computer.

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01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 14: I'm nine, I've got So that's that's fabulous, Except I've

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01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 14: got all these emails, and now I want to search

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01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 14: for something really specific, like a part number one, two, three, four, five, six. Yeah,

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01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 14: it'll show up, for just a second, all kinds of

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01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 14: other random emails that don't have anywhere near that, or

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01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:14,839
Speaker 14: a specific word like antisocial established minitarianism I can't even pronounce,

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01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 14: but it'll show up all kinds of stuff that doesn't

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01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 14: have that, you know what.

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01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: I don't use the Apple mail app, but I find

1495
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: a similar issue on Gmail. So if I am searching

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01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: for something on Gmail. I have found that I get

1497
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: better results when I don't finish the search. Like on

1498
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: the search bar, I will start typing for something and

1499
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: the email will pop up right at the top. But

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01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: if I press search, all of a sudden, it's like

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01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: I can't find that same email. So it seems like

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01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: there's a disconnect between sort of like the immediate response

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01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: that it thinks, almost like the spotlight response that it

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01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: thinks you want, versus the actual searching in the email.

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01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: So I don't have an answer for that one. But

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01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: I find that myself as well. So I usually end

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01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: up just instead of pressing the search and pressing enter,

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01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: I will just literally start typing and wait for the

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01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: first search to come up, and then I'll just not

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01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: complete that search and I'll just click that link. Now,

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01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: a couple of things, Andrew, because I just want to

1512
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: help you know, if someone's listening and they're looking for

1513
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: a purchase history, and you're right, they did change that,

1514
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 1: which is kind of annoying, I will admit, because there's

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01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: no all time. They've got date range of thirty days,

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01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 1: ninety days this year or last year, which defeats the

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01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: whole purpose of looking for an app that you downloaded,

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01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago. I don't know

1519
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: why they made that change, but they did give more

1520
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: options on searching for stuff, whether it's free or paid,

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01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: the type, whether it's apps in app purchases, subscriptions, But

1522
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: I did like the old way. Just type in the

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01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: name and it comes up no matter when you bought it.

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01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 1: But if you want there's two little things I will

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01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: I will mention. Number one, there's a great Apple website

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01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: called report Aproblem dot app com. Report a problem dot

1527
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: Apple dot com. Did you know that you can get

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01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: a refund for an app or a movie or a

1529
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: piece of music or anything that you purchase through the

1530
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 1: app Store if you're having an issue with it, you

1531
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: can request a refund and nine times out of ten

1532
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: you will get that refund. And it's definitely a good

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: website to know, and it's pretty much it seems like

1534
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: it's an automated system, although they say that they look

1535
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 1: at these things manually. But go to report aproblem dot

1536
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: apple dot com and while you're in there, you can

1537
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: also search and see a list of everything that you've

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01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: purchased over the years. And it doesn't seem like there

1539
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: is any any limit on you know, you can just

1540
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 1: continue that infinite scroll. That's the first thing. The second

1541
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: thing is the email address. So for me, you can

1542
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 1: find the email address that Apple sends you things from,

1543
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 1: and it's usually no underscore reply at email dot Apple

1544
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: dot com. So what I would do is, if you

1545
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: want to keep track of all the things you're buying

1546
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: on the Apple app Store, just find the latest thing

1547
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: that you bought on there, and then you can type

1548
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: that email address and make a search filter. And so

1549
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: you can make that search filter and then tag everything

1550
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,799
Speaker 1: that you purchase from Apple with you know, a label

1551
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: that says like Apple purchases, or you can just save

1552
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: that search and you could easily get back to it.

1553
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: So those are some of the ways that I find

1554
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: to kind of organize the Apple situation, because I will

1555
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: be honest, when you get that charge on your card,

1556
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: every single one of them says Apple, and I'm like,

1557
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: wait a second, two nine ninety nine, thirty seven ninety nine,

1558
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: what were these four? And I will tell you two

1559
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: of the biggest if you ever wanted to be a

1560
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: scam artist, honestly, and I'm I can't believe that this

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01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: is even a thing. But Amazon and Apple, the two

1562
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: probably biggest billers in the world, they don't give you

1563
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: any indication on your card statement of what you're being

1564
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: billed for. It just says Apple, it just Amazon. So

1565
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 1: when I see my statement, I have no clue if

1566
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: that was a legitimate charge or not. Now I'm not

1567
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: saying to do that, but like, seriously, someone's gonna get

1568
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: hip to this and they're gonna start charging us random

1569
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: amounts under the term Apple or Amazon because half of

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01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 1: my charge ledger is Apple or Amazon. And I have

1571
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: no idea what those charges are for. Because between myself,

1572
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: my wife, my kids, we're all charging stuff all the

1573
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: time on Apple and Amazon. And it's like, okay, so

1574
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: let me just look here. Do I have any charges

1575
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: from Amazon on here? Okay, let's see Amazon there it

1576
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 1: is seventy six dollars eighty four cents. No idea what

1577
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: that's for. Let's see Apple, Apple dot com slash bill

1578
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: twelve dollars ninety nine cents, No idea what that's for.

1579
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: Let's see is keep going Microsoft store thirty nine ninety nine.

1580
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: Now I do know what that's for. I bought my

1581
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: kid a game Apple dot com slash bill thirty seven

1582
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 1: ninety five. Okay, that's for my cloud storage. I get that,

1583
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: but my point is they don't really give you much

1584
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: indication of what Apple dot com slash bill four dollars

1585
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: ninety nine cents. Now, that's a lot of things build

1586
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: from Apple that I just don't really I can't match

1587
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: those up unless I get a Ledger every month and search.

1588
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: So anyway, am I done? We solve more time here. Okay,

1589
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: let's go to break. I'll save you my riches rants.

1590
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: Coming up, Gary's asking the best way to uh, let's

1591
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: see what does he say? Best way to dispose of

1592
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: an old laptop computer? Eighty eight rich one O one

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01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: eighty eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.

1594
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: I'll answer that and more of your questions coming up

1595
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back to Rich on Tech. Rich

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01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. This is

1597
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: the show where I talk about the tech stuff I

1598
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: think you should know about. So we don't discuss everything.

1599
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: There'd be no be not enough time in the world

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01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: to do that, but I do try to hit the

1601
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: things that I think you should know about. This week

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01:23:55,680 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: very popular on my TV program, I shared travel websites

1603
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: you know spring break is coming up and a lot

1604
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: of people you want to get out of town, want

1605
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 1: to find a hotel, airbnb, rental car, and so I

1606
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: shared a bunch of websites that are not your Expedias

1607
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: and Kayaks we all know them, but some other websites,

1608
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: including auto slash, which is for car rental deals. I

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01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: thought that was pretty cool. Travel Arrow this is a

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01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 1: web browser that actually reveals the secret hotel names for

1611
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: price lines express deals. That's kind of cool. I've not

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01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: used that personally, so I can't vouch. But by the way,

1613
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: I was one of the earliest people to ever use

1614
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: priceline dot com. My wife and I flew to Vegas

1615
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: for twenty dollars and round trip, and we were actually

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01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: featured in a price Line newspaper ad because of that.

1617
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: They had like it wasn't just us, there's like one

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01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: hundred people that use Priceline in the first like week.

1619
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: And of course I was a nerd even back then,

1620
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, you can't believe

1621
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: you could pay twenty bucks and get it. You know,

1622
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: you name your own price for this hotel, you name

1623
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: your own price for a flight, and it's like, wait,

1624
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: what and I used it for many many years for

1625
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: the hotel rooms as well. I loved it, and I

1626
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: don't use it as much anymore, but it's still there.

1627
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: It's probably not as good as it used to be,

1628
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: but it's still there anyway. Flightsfrom dot Com This is

1629
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 1: a cool way to discover direct flights from any airport.

1630
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: So if you have a regional airport near you, or

1631
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: you just want to see where you can go from

1632
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: your airport direct, that's a good one. Hichi Hichee. This

1633
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: is pretty genius. It will take the link from your

1634
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: Airbnb listing, you pop it in there, and it will

1635
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: reverse search it on other sites, so it will see

1636
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: if it's maybe cheaper on verbo or directly booking with

1637
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: that website, so that's kind of cool. This is probably

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01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: my favorite out of all of them. It's called Wiki Voyage.

1639
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: It's like Wikipedia, but it's a travel guide, so it

1640
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 1: gives you all the information you need about a destination.

1641
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: So if you're going to a place like Rome, Italy,

1642
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: you type in Rome and it will give you everything

1643
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: you need to know about Rome. It's almost like those

1644
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,879
Speaker 1: travel books back in the day, but all on one page,

1645
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: and it's like Wikipedia, so it's updated by real people.

1646
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: This one is interesting, nap or nappr. This lets you

1647
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: rent hotel rooms by the hour, four to ten hours.

1648
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: So what could possibly go wrong nappr Now, the idea

1649
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: is that you can rest and recharge on the go.

1650
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: When I landed in Italy a couple of years ago,

1651
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, we landed at nine am and our hotel

1652
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: room was not ready until three or four pm. So

1653
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: if you're in one of those situations, maybe you want

1654
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: a hotel room just you know, take a nap in

1655
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:42,839
Speaker 1: the morning or something. And then to go beyond Google Maps,

1656
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 1: I mentioned oh producer Kim chimed in hourly Hotels, I

1657
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: know what those are used for? Napping, right, and then

1658
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: Rome Rome to Rio, and then city Mapper. So if

1659
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: you want links to all of these off the beaten

1660
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: path travel sites, just go to Rich on tech dot TV,

1661
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: scroll all the way down and it says as seen

1662
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: on TV handy travel websites. Let's see Gary writes in Hey, Rich,

1663
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 1: good show today, what is the best way to dispose

1664
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: of an old laptop computer? Gary, Gary, I'm glad that

1665
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: you're not just gonna throw this thing in the trash,

1666
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: which I'm sure some people do, because there are a

1667
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,480
Speaker 1: lot of parts in there that should be properly recycled

1668
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: a couple of ways. Number One, you should look into

1669
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: donating it to an organization if you can. In the

1670
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 1: LA area, there's a place called the Laptop Elf Project.

1671
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Even though this computer seems old and crusty, they may

1672
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: be able to turn it into a chromebook that will

1673
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 1: still work for someone in need. So definitely check out

1674
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: the Laptop Elf Project or another organization in your area.

1675
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: Just look up donate laptop nonprofit and you know or

1676
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 1: refurbished laptop. Second way is Staples or Best Buy both

1677
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: except electronics for recycling Staples, I've done this very very easy.

1678
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: It is free. You can recycle items there. They take

1679
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff, almost everything. A couple of

1680
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: things they don't take, but they take a lot of stuff,

1681
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: including a lot of batteries too, even alkaline batteries. Now

1682
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,919
Speaker 1: that's new. So I did a story about recycling batteries,

1683
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 1: and you know, I'll be honest. I used to maybe

1684
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: toss them in the trash once in a while until

1685
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 1: I learned how bad that was, and I started saving

1686
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: my batteries and then recycling them, and it makes a

1687
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: big difference. You know, it's just one of these things.

1688
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: It's a little bit annoying to have this big, giant

1689
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: bag of batteries, but believe me, it's a smart thing

1690
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: to do for the environment. A couple of things you

1691
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 1: can't recycle at Staples air conditioners, appliances, light bulbs, large servers,

1692
01:28:52,720 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 1: medical devices, smoke detectors, televisions, vaporizers. What's that. I'm just

1693
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: I got this old vaporizer I don't need anymore, got

1694
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: a new one. Just bringing this back for you. Bobo's

1695
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: turning off the lights, he's closing the door. He's done.

1696
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: He's done with my jokes for the day. Best Buy

1697
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: also recycles electronics, and you go to the website before

1698
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: you do this just to make sure they take what

1699
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 1: you want. But usually it says you can three items

1700
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: per day, and if it's a monitor, it's usually a

1701
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: fee of thirty dollars. Not in California. You can look

1702
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: at up your individual state to see what their rules are.

1703
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: The other place. The other thing you can do this

1704
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: is kind of cool. Best Buy has these mail in

1705
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: recycling boxes, so if you just have like a bunch

1706
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: of cables, and you don't really live near a store,

1707
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 1: you can go on the best buy website order this box.

1708
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 1: They've got a medium box or a large box twenty

1709
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 1: three dollars or thirty dollars, and they send you this

1710
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: box and you just put all your old recycling stuff

1711
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: in their cables and things like that. You just dump

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01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: it all in there and then ship it to them

1713
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 1: and they will recycle it. And then the other one

1714
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 1: is Gizmo Go. Gizmo Go, and I did a web

1715
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: a story with this place. But you can sell your

1716
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: device and so you can put in even an old laptop, tablet, smartwatch.

1717
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 1: You can see how much they will give you for

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Speaker 1: that item. So, for instance, let's say you have an

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Speaker 1: old let's just say you have an Apple Watch Series four.

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Speaker 1: They'll give you forty bucks for that. That's not bad.

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Speaker 1: And let's see if it's GPS and cellular. Let's see

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Speaker 1: if it's good and good condition. Is the Apple ID

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Speaker 1: signed out? Yes, give you fifteen bucks for that old watch.

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Speaker 1: So even things you might not know gizmogo dot com

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Speaker 1: all linked up on the website. Rich on tech dot tv.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're going to talk to Joshua Browder,

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Speaker 1: CEO of Do Not Pay. You are listening to rich

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Speaker 1: On Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro

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01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 1: here hanging out with you talking technology. Joining me now

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Speaker 1: is Joshua Browder. He is the founder and CEO of

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01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 1: a website called do Not Pay. So when he moved

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Speaker 1: to the U, you moved to the US from the UK,

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Speaker 1: he got a bunch of parking tickets and couldn't pay

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Speaker 1: for them, and he wanted to figure out how to

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Speaker 1: use technology to automate the appeal process, and that's what

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Speaker 1: started this product, Do Not Pay. Joshua, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me so explain to me this

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Speaker 1: parking ticket situation. You got a couple of tickets and

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Speaker 1: you said, Okay, there's got to be a better way

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Speaker 1: to automate this.

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Speaker 21: Well, I'll use the excuse that the Americans drive on

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Speaker 21: the other side of the road. But when I moved here,

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01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,879
Speaker 21: I was a terrible driver and got all these expensive tickets,

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Speaker 21: and I learned something remarkable, which is if you know

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Speaker 21: the right things to say, you can get out of

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01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 21: your tickets. And I really just created it for my

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01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 21: family and friends. But after about a week we went

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Speaker 21: from ten cases to fifty thousand cases.

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Speaker 5: And that's what made me realize.

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Speaker 21: That the idea of fighting back with AI and technology

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01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 21: is bigger than just tickets.

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Speaker 5: And so I created do not Pay.

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01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: And now you've got over one hundred different products that

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Speaker 1: help you out, Like what are some of these things

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01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 1: that do not pay? Does at this point? Like what

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01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:10,839
Speaker 1: are some of the most popular.

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Speaker 21: One of the most popular things we've released recently is

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Speaker 21: AI bill negotiation, So robot, a robot will log into

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01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 21: your utility bill account and start chatting with a company

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Speaker 21: like Comcast to lower your bill. And what's interesting is

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Speaker 21: the big companies are using AI and we're using AI,

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Speaker 21: and so sometimes the two AI robots are chatting with

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Speaker 21: the childt to negotiate someone's bill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, way, that is wild. Okay? Is this secure? Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, obviously, if someone's listening and they're saying,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, you know you're logging into my account?

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Speaker 1: Is that secure?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 21: I mean these issues aren't rocket science. I don't think

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Speaker 21: someone's Internet account is the most secure thing in their life.

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Speaker 21: We give apps access to everything, and a utility account

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Speaker 21: is not up there among the most precious things. We

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Speaker 21: have so it's secure and it's low resk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got the lower my bills. So what

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Speaker 1: does that work with? You said, a utility bill, a

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Speaker 1: cable bill.

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Speaker 21: Medical bills as well. So you can actually scan a

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Speaker 21: medical bill and it will detect errors. They's an amazing

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Speaker 21: federal law that it uses to negotiate medical bills down

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Speaker 21: and this is much more important than a parking.

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Speaker 5: Ticket and can create real value for people.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, and you know, I have a personal rule

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Speaker 1: with the medical bill that I almost never pay it

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Speaker 1: when it first comes because nine times out of ten

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Speaker 1: something is not settled yet, whether it's the insurance, whether

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Speaker 1: it's you know. And then a lot of times I

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Speaker 1: will call the company or the doctor and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, is this the bill? And also is that

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Speaker 1: the best you can do? And nine times out of

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Speaker 1: ten they will say, oh no, here, just pay this amount.

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Speaker 1: And it's like wait what So if you just are

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Speaker 1: blindly paying your medical bills like without asking, it's that

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01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: could be wasting a lot of money. How about this

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Speaker 1: robo revenge feature?

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Speaker 21: Yes, so not many people know this, but you can

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01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 21: actually get one five hundred dollars every time you get

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Speaker 21: a spam call. But the problem is that no one

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Speaker 21: knows who these callers are. They hide behind fake names

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Speaker 21: and fake numbers. So I do not pay.

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Speaker 5: We've built a trap.

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Speaker 21: And the way the trap works is it's a credit card,

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Speaker 21: and when they try and sell you something that you

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Speaker 21: can give them our credit card, not your credit card,

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Speaker 21: and when they try and run the payment, it gets

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Speaker 21: their business name, address, phone number, and then generates the

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01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 21: demand letter to get that cash from them.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are so sneaky. I love this.

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Speaker 1: This is like, I literally feel like you are like

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Speaker 1: a modern magician, but like getting people money and also

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01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 1: like doing these little tricky things that are all within

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Speaker 1: the law. Of course, the free trial card explain that.

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Speaker 21: So this is a credit card that we've built so

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Speaker 21: it's not linked to you, it's not tied to your

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Speaker 21: credit or anything like that, and you can use it

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01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 21: for free trials, so everyone forgets to cancel their subscription.

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01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 21: Now you don't have to give your real payment information

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01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 21: when you're signing up for free trials. And this is

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Speaker 21: the whole mission of Do Not Pay. We just want

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Speaker 21: to build all the coolest technology to help consumers rather

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Speaker 21: than big companies and governments.

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01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: What about this find hidden money.

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Speaker 21: So one in seven Americans have money with the government

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Speaker 21: that is unclaimed. So this can be if you've moved

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Speaker 21: a dress and you'll owe a property tax refund, or

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Speaker 21: big companies sometimes when they owe you money, they don't

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Speaker 21: send it to you.

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Speaker 5: They send it to the government.

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Speaker 21: This such as all of the state databases to get

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Speaker 21: you that money.

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Speaker 1: All right, and this is a popular one. You said,

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Speaker 1: everyone forgets to cancel their subscriptions, myself included. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I just had I used one of those free trial

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Speaker 1: card situations with a subscription that I completely forgot about,

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Speaker 1: and I got an email that said, hey, we just

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Speaker 1: tried to charge you thirty nine ninety nine for your

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Speaker 1: renewal a year later, which of course I forgot that

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Speaker 1: I signed up and it didn't get it because of that.

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Speaker 1: So the cancer subscriptions with do not pay. How does

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Speaker 1: that work?

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Speaker 21: So I joke that you shouldn't need AI to cancel

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01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,679
Speaker 21: a subscription, but we live in such a broken country

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Speaker 21: that that's the case. So do not pay, We'll go

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01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 21: in and the bots will cancel your subscription. So that

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01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 21: can be anything from generating a signed letter to get

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01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 21: out of your gym membership. It's ridiculous that they make

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Speaker 21: you sign and mail a letter in twenty twenty four,

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01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 21: but this is here, we are.

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Speaker 5: That's what the software does.

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Speaker 21: And then in some situations, going back to the robots,

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Speaker 21: it will actually log into your New York Times account

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Speaker 21: and chat with the representative to cancel your subscription. And

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Speaker 21: these representatives are very forceful. They'll say, don't cancel, we'll

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Speaker 21: give you a discount, or try and store you and

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01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 21: waste your time. But the AI is very firm and

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Speaker 21: we'll make sure the subscription gets canceled.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, this all sounds so wild that you're

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Speaker 1: using AI to do this. Does it work pretty automatically?

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01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 1: Like how you know if you set this thing up

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Speaker 1: for let's say the cancel subscription, Like, do you kind

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01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: of do one real test and see how it works

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Speaker 1: and then program the AI with all the different interactions

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Speaker 1: that might occur, Like how does that work? Exactly? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we go at.

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Speaker 21: The top one hundred companies and we look for the process.

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Speaker 21: And what's what's interesting is these things are just a

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Speaker 21: tedious but not very complicated. No one has time to

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Speaker 21: send as signed a legal letter to counsel a gym, membership,

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Speaker 21: but it's very structured and tedious. So that's a great

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01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 21: job for software and this is really I think one

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Speaker 21: of the best use cases for AI is jumping through

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Speaker 21: the hoops that the big companies make us jump through.

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Speaker 1: How do you make money?

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Speaker 18: How?

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Speaker 1: How do people pay for these services? Is it a

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01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: flat rate? Is it?

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Speaker 14: You know?

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Speaker 1: How does that work?

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01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 21: It's a subscription, So we work for our customers. It's

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Speaker 21: just like costco costco for consumer rights. So you pay

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01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 21: a subscription. It's eighteen dollars and you get access to

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01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 21: all of our services and you keep everything you save.

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Speaker 21: There are no ads and we don't sell any data.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of the you know, consumer right

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01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: situation here in America? Do you think that we are

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01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 1: at odds with major companies? Do you think we're protected?

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01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: What do you think of What do you make of it?

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Speaker 21: I think the government is asleep at the wheel and

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01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 21: is letting big companies take advantage of people.

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Speaker 5: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 21: It should be one click to counsel and only now

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01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 21: is the FTC creating rules that might come into a

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01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 21: fact years down the line. But this should have been

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Speaker 21: in effect decades ago.

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Speaker 1: And so what if I mean, I know that in

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01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: the early days of do not Pay, and I think

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01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: in continuing you've you've run up against a bunch of

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Speaker 1: challenges with people trying to challenge what you're doing. Companies,

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01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 1: obviously I'm assuming don't necessarily like this, right.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, we created so many Netflix free trials with our

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Speaker 21: free trial carb that Netflix, in our opinion, Netflix ended

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Speaker 21: free trials for everyone because we were creating so many

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01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 21: free trials. Also fighting against lawyers, our goal is to

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01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 21: make legal services ninety nine percent cheaper, one day free,

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01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 21: and that upsets lawyers. Fortunately, we have really good lawyers

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Speaker 21: helping us. So the robots aren't going to replace all

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01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 21: the lawyers, just the bad ones.

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Speaker 1: Now, you were doing this stuff kind of before the

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Speaker 1: blossoming of AI in a big way at the end

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Speaker 1: of last year when or sorry the year before last

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Speaker 1: when chat GBT was launched. So what do you make

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Speaker 1: of AI? I mean, what's your kind of thought on

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Speaker 1: how it's evolving and how quickly it's evolving For the

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Speaker 1: average consumer.

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Speaker 21: It feels like we're making years of progress and AI

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Speaker 21: every few months. It's amazing how far the technology has developed,

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Speaker 21: and this has really leveled up our product. When I

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01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 21: started my company, it was just temphates, and you could

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Speaker 21: go a long way with templates, but now you can

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Speaker 21: do much more sophisticated things, and this allows us to

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Speaker 21: do these AI build negotiations where the value of the

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01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 21: bill is it could be a ten thousand dollar medical

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Speaker 21: bill instead of one hundred dollars parking ticket.

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Speaker 1: Now what if someone has a problem we do not pay,

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Speaker 1: what do they use to dispute their bill?

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Speaker 5: Well, we're actually very proud.

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Speaker 21: We have one hundred percent refund right on all of

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Speaker 21: our requests, so we're very consumer friendly and we do

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Speaker 21: this because we love it. I've been working on the

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Speaker 21: company for nine years now and I just feel like

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Speaker 21: I have the best job in the world. So it's

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Speaker 21: my passion to just build these cool products that people like.

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Speaker 1: And it really is incredible. We just mentioned a handful

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Speaker 1: of the things you can do, but if you go

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Speaker 1: to the website Do Not Pay dot Com, they have

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Speaker 1: so many different tools that will help you with this,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a growing list every day.

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Speaker 5: It seems like, yeah, we've got our work cut out.

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Speaker 1: For us, all right. Joshua Browder of Do Not Pay

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Speaker 1: dot Com, thanks so much for joining me. Today.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're going to talk about a

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Speaker 1: couple more stories of interest, including how hackers have figured

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Speaker 1: out how to unlock millions of hotesoms, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do some feedback to hear from you. You are listening

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Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology and

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Speaker 1: closing out the show. Three hours just goes by very fast.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it through some of the stories I think

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Speaker 1: First off, ethical hackers have figured out a vulnerability in

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Speaker 1: those hotel room locks. They figured out a way to

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Speaker 1: open millions of hotel room locks easily. They're made by

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Speaker 1: a company named Dorma Kaba and they're used in many

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Speaker 1: hotels around the world. They figured out how to make

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Speaker 1: special key cards that can open any door. All they

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Speaker 1: have to do is get one key card from the hotel,

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Speaker 1: even an old one. They use the device to read

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Speaker 1: that information off the card, and then they write it

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Speaker 1: onto two new cards. When they tap those cards on

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Speaker 1: the lock, the first one changes something in the locks data,

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Speaker 1: the second one opens the door. And this entire process

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Speaker 1: only takes a few seconds now. The researchers told the

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Speaker 1: company they found the problem in twenty twenty two. They've

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Speaker 1: been working on updating. But as you can imagine, these

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Speaker 1: are used in millions of hotel rooms around the world.

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Speaker 1: So in the meantime, and I learned this lesson the

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Speaker 1: hard way. Always always always use the extra lock when

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Speaker 1: you are in the room, whether that's the chain lock

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Speaker 1: or the other lock on the door. Because I was

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Speaker 1: sitting in my hotel room in Las Vegas once, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, I used to not use that little

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Speaker 1: lock chain because I was like, Ah, what's the point,

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Speaker 1: come on, give me a break. And sure enough, someone

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Speaker 1: walked right into my room and they were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is our room. And I was like wait what,

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Speaker 1: Like I literally I thought it was the housekeeping because

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Speaker 1: it was like one of those things where they just

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Speaker 1: kind of like I heard the door opening, but I

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Speaker 1: was like, that's weird. Usually they knock right and sure enough,

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Speaker 1: the door just opens right. You know, I'm sitting right there,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, what's happening here? And it

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Speaker 1: was a couple and as a young couple, and I

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Speaker 1: was just like, I think you're in my room. They said, Oh,

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Speaker 1: they just give us this room and it was anyway.

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Speaker 1: So just always use that lock no matter what. If

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Speaker 1: your stuff is in the room, right, you want to

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Speaker 1: use that safe because if someone gets into your room

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Speaker 1: when you're not there, always always use the safe and

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Speaker 1: use that TikTok hack. Put one of your shoes in

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Speaker 1: the safe, so you don't forget your stuff in the

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Speaker 1: safe when you leave the hotel room, because nine times

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Speaker 1: out of ten, you're gonna lock your stuff up in

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Speaker 1: the in the in the safe and then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: walk out of that room and forget about it. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of travel, trippet Pro has a new feature to tell

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Speaker 1: you about disruptions. This is called risk Alerts. This is

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Speaker 1: for paid trippet Pro users. It will now send you

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Speaker 1: a notification if it's monitoring your airline number and there's

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Speaker 1: a weather event, political unrest, labor actions, technology outages, or

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Speaker 1: airport incidents. They're teaming up with a company called risk

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Speaker 1: Line and so basically they will monitor your flight for

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Speaker 1: any sort of disruption that is not just you know,

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Speaker 1: a canceled flight or delayed flight. These are like other

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Speaker 1: things that may impact your flight and retro tech making

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Speaker 1: a comeback what are some of those most popular retro

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Speaker 1: tech items. The Nikon Cool Picks point and shoot camera

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Speaker 1: that is seeing a significant increase in demand. So we've

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Speaker 1: seen this whole trend of people trying to disconnect from technology,

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Speaker 1: maybe on Saturday or Sunday or when they're done with work.

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Speaker 1: Because at first we thought it was so cool that

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Speaker 1: the BlackBerry gave us the ability to have access to

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Speaker 1: our work email twenty four to seven. How cool is this?

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Speaker 1: I could work from anywhere? And now we're seeing it

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Speaker 1: as wait a second, I can work from anywhere. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of annoying. And when your kid is, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to play football with you in the front yard,

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Speaker 1: and your watch is buzzing and your phone is ringing,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, someone at work just asking something nonsensical,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like really, So retro tech is definitely

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Speaker 1: seeing a comeback. Flip phones all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: but the Nikon cool Picks is number one, flip phones

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Speaker 1: number two, Motorol Eraser and the Samsung flip phones seeing

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Speaker 1: a surge in popularity across social media and e commerce platforms.

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Speaker 1: MP three players including the iPod Nano and even the

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Speaker 1: Sony Walkman. Can you imagine going back to a Sony

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Speaker 1: Walkman at this point with like a tape? I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I could do that. Nintendo DS handheld gaming

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Speaker 1: console has also seen a rise in searches on TikTok

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Speaker 1: and eBay. Pink is the most color popular color for

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Speaker 1: retro tech devices. I'm guessing Barbie has something to do

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Speaker 1: with that, followed by orange, blue, silver, and black depending

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Speaker 1: on the device, and even typewriter keyboards for the iPad

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Speaker 1: have seen a surge in searches. And you know, look,

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Speaker 1: I get it. It's retro is always fun, right. This

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Speaker 1: is from a website called Music Magpie. Music Magpie talking

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Speaker 1: about the retro devices, and I think they're onto something

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Speaker 1: because the retro stuff it is fun. It really is,

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Speaker 1: all right, Let's get to some fee bag. Feedbag, of course,

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Speaker 1: is a combination of feedback and the mail bag. Michelle

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Speaker 1: says high tech chief Rich. I know you're not here,

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Speaker 1: it goes. I live in Anaheim since twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Is a caregiver for my ninety four year old mom.

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Speaker 1: I just heard you talk about the seasun Assisted Tech conference.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm near the Marriott. I could have visited.

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Speaker 1: I'm so disappointed you didn't mention it earlier. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: the deal. So I understand that this show airs locally

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, but it's also syndicated across a bunch

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Speaker 1: of radio stations nationwide. So I really have to balance

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Speaker 1: the local audience versus the national audience. So if I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting there doing a calendar segment of everything you could

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Speaker 1: do in the LA area, that's amazing for the LA folks,

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Speaker 1: but not so good if you live in Minnesota or Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: or Michigan or what's another M state or m City, Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: You get what I'm talking about. And we're in places

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Speaker 1: that start with more than just them. But so I

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Speaker 1: do think about that stuff, and I will. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, get it, and I understand there's always that

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Speaker 1: balance there. Jim says. Wow. Now, in addition to the

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Speaker 1: government telling me what kind of car I can drive,

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Speaker 1: they're suing Apple in order to tell me what kind

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Speaker 1: of cell phone I can purchase. What's next, what online

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Speaker 1: shopping service I can use? Watch out Amazon. The only

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Speaker 1: way that we'll get iPhone is from my cold dead hands. Jim. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll just move on. To Valerie. Valerie says, what happened

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Speaker 1: to the search option on your website? Yeah, that has

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Speaker 1: gone right for now, But there are ways of searching.

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Speaker 1: If you search rich on tech and the topic, usually

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Speaker 1: that'll bring you to the TV segment, and if you're

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Speaker 1: on the show wiki, that will bring you to the

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Speaker 1: different things that you can search on there. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to see if you can search on my substack if

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Speaker 1: that has a search. My substack does have a search,

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Speaker 1: you can search there as well, So that's another way

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Speaker 1: of doing it. Thanks for the consideration, and let's see here.

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Speaker 1: Neil from Ohio says, just a couple of comments on

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Speaker 1: your TikTok guests. This is from last week. Seems to

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Speaker 1: me a little bit of a crackpot. What he said

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Speaker 1: seems true, But TikTok has put their data about Americans

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Speaker 1: in the hands of Oracle on us soil. Does he

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Speaker 1: have any references? You didn't give them much pushback pushback.

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Speaker 1: I don't use TikTok, so I don't have anything to

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Speaker 1: gain or lose. But this guy seemed a little off

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Speaker 1: where he's privy to something we all need to be

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Speaker 1: better informed on. Rather than giving Americans a deal on

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Speaker 1: a popular app. Neil from Ohio. Ah, gosh, can we

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Speaker 1: the TikTok stuff? I can talk about that forever, I know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you can believe it, that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: this episode of the show. If you want to submit

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Speaker 1: your feedback, just go to the website rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: job of putting that thing out every week and the

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Speaker 1: feedback is pretty good on it. You can find me

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Speaker 1: on social media. I am still on Instagram, I'm on

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Speaker 1: x I'm on Facebook at rich on Tech. And next

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Speaker 1: week we're gonna talk to friends of the show, Jefferson

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Speaker 1: Graham of Photo Walks TV. He's gonna explain the best

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Speaker 1: ways to capture the total solar eclipse with your smartphone.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. There are so many ways you

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Speaker 1: can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending it

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Speaker 1: right here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes this

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Speaker 1: show possible. My name is rich Dmiro. I will talk

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