1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Steff. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: I never told you a production Yheart Radio. 3 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: Yes, and welcome to another edition of Watching Sex and 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: the City. Getting Annie's reaction and enjoying our time together 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: in this happy hour. Yay, that's more a descriptive than 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: a title. That's how I do. If you are joining 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 2: us for the happy hour, please do so responsibly whatever 8 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 2: you are doing, whether it's driving, whether it's taking care 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: of your kids, whether it's just sitting. 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: To being on something respony. 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I actually should do that more because 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: I during the pandemic, I have not been sitting responsibly. 13 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: You know, I've watched myself It's like I'm hunched over. 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is not uncomfortable. But all of those things, 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 2: and if we're talking about any products, as of this point, 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: we are probably not sponsored by that product, but who knows. 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 2: Things can change. Hopefully things will change. We'll get more 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: good sponsors with good products, am I right? Yeah? 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: Anyway, so today. 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: We are doing our watch party, but we are actually 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: separate this time around peak behind the curtains. We are 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: sitting in our own respective private offices, I guess, private 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: studios and I gotta do webcam and then it's is 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: very detailed. I cannot stop looking at myself right Irving. 25 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: We actually both got this is kind of funny to 26 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: me that you're just now using it because we got 27 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: it in the same time, and I it was a 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: real learning curve for me because it went from like, oh, 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't really like what I'm seeing, but it's all right, 30 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: to whoa, look at the same. 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: Why why is all of this happening? And I'm not 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: a floating head anymore. You could actually see what's behind me. 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 5: This is on. 34 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: Yes, anyway, I'm very distracted as we're trying to record this, 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: so excuse me in advance. 36 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 4: That's so too much email. 37 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, eighty we're coming back. We are on 38 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: episode fourteen of season two, slowly walking our. 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 4: Way through all the Sex and the Cities. 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: We may have retired before the end of this episode. 41 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: It's taking us on and me like living together and 42 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: I'll be like, finally episode ninety. 43 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: Four, it's gonna be the commune that we've been dreaming of. Well, 44 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: just retire, but we're still watching Sex. 45 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: And the City and having like commentary though no one 46 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: is listening. 47 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: Podcasts no longer exists. We're still going for it though. 48 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: I'm you know this about me excited to know. 49 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: That even if I were to be dead tomorrow, you'll 50 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: still keep going. 51 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, thank you. 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: He's a traditional lie, Annie, I will. 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: Speaking of traditions, we need a replay or tell us 54 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: a review of what has been happening in the world 55 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: of sex and the City. 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like the big thing that has happened 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: is that. 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: Carrie had. 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: A quote like revelation that she's dating men who are 60 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: not good for her. In this case, mister Big who 61 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: was like moved to Paris and wasn't willing to commit, 62 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: and she really wanted to commit, and she went to 63 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: a therapist for like a half second and met bon Jovi. 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: I guess yes, John bon Jovi specifically, Oh excuse me, 65 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: Christina cut it. 66 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 6: But I didn't know who that was. I was like, well, 67 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 6: I know forever You're like, who's that. I'm like, oh my, 68 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 6: I recognize the day. I just I didn't recognize him. 69 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 6: But anyway, so we got that going on. 70 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: We had an episode we discussed recently in a Mondane 71 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: and any that you experience embarrassment very vividly we had 72 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: that scene with Miranda where she was sort of flirting 73 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: with the guy she thought was flirting with her crossed 74 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: the way at the apartments and that was not the case. 75 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: We have Samantha continuing to like she was at a 76 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: BDSM club, just sort of getting into all of these 77 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: situations with people, and then Charlotte trying to find the 78 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: one and continually dating people that I'm like, wow, that 79 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: was way off, but you know, I get it. 80 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: I've been there. So that's about it. 81 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: Theres are getting better and better. I feel like I 82 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: like them. 83 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So we have our next episode and the title 84 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: is The Buddy. Yeah, oh yeah, okay, or the Sex 85 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: Buddy for trying to edit out if we're trying to 86 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: be PG thirteen the sex Buddy rather than buddy, but 87 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: the title is the Buddy. Can you give me a 88 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: guess as to what this episode is about. 89 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: I feel like I had my revelation of my own 90 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: in the last one, which is at the time I 91 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: was going for like deep metaphor and then it's way 92 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: more spot on, and then you give me a title 93 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: like this, So I'm gonna say it. 94 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: Is a situation with a buddy. 95 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: In this case, being someone you. 96 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: Have sex with occasionally, which I feel like happened in 97 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: one of the earlier episodes already. 98 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, someone you have sex with that are not dating, 99 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: and then maybe somebody you like talk to about sacks. 100 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: But if what's the most straightforward, buddy? 101 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: So I'm assuming you've never had one I had. 102 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: I've been asked to be one. I have never been one. 103 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 4: Like they officially asked for that. That is interesting. 104 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 5: Wow. 105 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: Really, I will say the one that I had was 106 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: just the dude that I would meet up with in 107 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: between relationships if everything, like if I had a relationship 108 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: or a thing fell apart and I just needed someone 109 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: to lay on me, just to lay on me. He 110 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: was the dude and we would I would go over late. 111 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: He was never allowed in my place. I would go 112 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: over to his place late at night and leave early morning. 113 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: End the story. And we never dated. There was some 114 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: crossing of the lines. 115 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: And we'll talk a little bit more, but like it 116 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: rarely got there, and it never really got there. 117 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: And then he got engaged and things were over and I. 118 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, okaybye's I've had one. 119 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 4: But he was around for like five six years. 120 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: Oh wow. But then once he got on relationship. 121 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: Yes, we were always appropriate. We never got together when 122 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: each other we were into a thing. It was literally 123 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: in between for both of us. I was you know, 124 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: my friends really hated him, all right. We never listened 125 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: to this episode because we have mutual friends. Oh no, 126 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: of all episodes, if he listened to this, like, y'all, 127 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: what is happening? 128 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: Okay, let's get into this because I'm embarrassing myself. Really. Well, here, 129 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: I ran. 130 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 7: Into my friend's skipper on the street the other day. 131 00:07:59,120 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: Do you remember, Skip? 132 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 5: He was most in frantic he'd just broken up with 133 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 5: another girl. 134 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 3: Well, we haven't seen him in a minute. 135 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: He's an a but he's back, he's been for a second. 136 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 5: What did she say? She thought was wrong? 137 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: Skipper? 138 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 5: You're a very sweet guy, and this isn't about anything 139 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 5: you did. 140 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 7: It's just that we are in very different places right now. 141 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 7: We want different things from life. 142 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: Classic. 143 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: Have you ever had to do a breakup like this? 144 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: Actually no, I'm kind of a coward, to be honest. 145 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: I don't think I have either. 146 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: I always wait for them to break up with me. 147 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 148 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: I had the one breakup in high school where I 149 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: went on one date with him and didn't really think 150 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: I had to do a breakup, but I had to, 151 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: in which I said you deserve more than me. 152 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 4: I had to say that, and. 153 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: He was like, no, I don't want anyone else but you. 154 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: High school, y'all high school? Oh wow oh. 155 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 5: Later that night, on a data Crosstown, Miranda was repeating 156 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 5: a pattern of her own. She had been dating a 157 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 5: lawyer she met when they got into a big fight 158 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 5: in court. A frequent guest on MSNBC, Kevin was not 159 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 5: just argumentative, he was an anger professional. 160 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: You know. 161 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 5: I think I got to revise my opinion that you 162 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 5: got to be an idiot to want to go out 163 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 5: to a movie these days. I mean, it was worse 164 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 5: than nineteen bucks plus ten dollars in snacks and. 165 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: Water just to hear that bus driver behind. 166 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: To be fair, he's not wrong about that movie experience. 167 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: Not that I'm the angry person, but I'm just saying, sure, you've. 168 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: Got a very obvious pattern. 169 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: You know, I do would tell me you wait for 170 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: a perfect guy to ask you on a perfect day. 171 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 5: And when he does, you project this huge fantasy on him. 172 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: Which, by the way, I feel like that's what Carrie 173 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: did too. It's a big. She put expectations onto him 174 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: and it that's true. 175 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely like Charlotte's whole thing is kind 176 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: of the Disney fairy tale. 177 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: Prince Carrie did it too. 178 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, none of us can afford to fall into this 179 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: one man at a time past. Sam is all about 180 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: not one minute a time, and I can't say she 181 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: being in my forties in a relationship. Finally, I feel 182 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: like I missed a lot of opportunities, partially because I 183 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: am too loyal and dependable to be like floating about. 184 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: But the dating around may have been the better way 185 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: to go, at least to know what I like. I 186 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: love where I am, but as a younger person, where 187 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm missing so many opportunities. 188 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 7: The same person over and over again. 189 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 5: Well, I guess I have dated quite a few artists, 190 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 5: but I don't think they were all the same person. 191 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: Okay, do you have a type any Yes? Is it 192 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 2: all Luke Skywalker kind talk about projecting and impossible standards? 193 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of comical, how much of it. 194 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: It's embarrassing you never met this one, y'all. If this 195 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: cross is over, you're gonna get people who challenge you 196 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: because you've already had that challenge to begin with, so 197 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: now it's going to be even more so I have. 198 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: That's an interesting flip side, though, of Flank projecting too 199 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: much onto someone and then them. 200 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: Being like, no, it's not too much. I am the 201 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: one that. 202 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: Can encompass this and you can't because and it's not 203 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: not realistic. 204 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: Inevitably, they will disappoint and then be angry that they've disappointed, Yes. 205 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Because they feel like they've done everything to do it, 206 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, it's not I never asked you to, 207 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: for one, but also it's just not possible. 208 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 7: Why had I been keeping him on the bench all 209 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 7: these years? 210 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 5: Did I really believe a relationship had to be difficult 211 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: in order to work? 212 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: Oh? 213 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: Is she going to try to step up? 214 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 5: Do you enough? 215 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 7: Dinner? Friday night dinner? 216 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: Okay? 217 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: So, as I said, the little buddy and I my 218 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: little buddy, we would have different times. I think that 219 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 2: we tried to make it more and it just inevitably 220 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: went wrong, and but our timing was way off and 221 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: so it never happened, and it was a good thing. Again, 222 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: as I said, my friends did not like him, did 223 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: not like him. 224 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: Okay, because of the funny part or just in general. 225 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: No, because they didn't actually know he was buddy. Only 226 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: a couple of people knew. 227 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: They just knew him, and because we kind of like 228 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: he was far enough away from my social circle, but 229 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: we would still interact so we would still know going on, 230 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: and the people closest to me knew of him and 231 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: hung out with him every now and again when we 232 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: were all together. Was not a fan of him. I 233 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: thought he was really obnoxious. I really hope he doesn't 234 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: hear this episode. It's gonna be really sad. 235 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: My situation was a It was a friend who I 236 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: had wanted to date and he knew I had wanted 237 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: to date, and he came back with what if we 238 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: were buddies? And I was like, yo, that kind of 239 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I get like, I think you can have 240 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: a healthy situation, but for me, that felt very like 241 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to date you. 242 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah that's a backhanded if it's really like I like you, 243 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: but he's putting you on the sidelines. 244 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: Mmmmm, keeping you on the in the back. 245 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: When he knew what I wanted knew that's cold. 246 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. 247 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 7: I like most first dates. We were off to an 248 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 7: awkward start. 249 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: Already awkward, oh my somewhat racist music to signify sushi. 250 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 5: The yellowtail sashimi, two pieces of I'm gonna sushi. 251 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: I know, I'm already pretty starting. 252 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this show really puts the cravings in 253 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: my life between Chinese food, sushi yet and brun Yes, Annie, 254 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,479 Speaker 2: you want a really fancy sushi experience. 255 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: I did. 256 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: I did, And funnily enough, I told my mom about it, 257 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: and it's just so outside of her experience. She was 258 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: like shocked because it was very expensive. Everyone very very expensive, 259 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: and she saw it in a magazine and she like 260 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: texted me about it, was like, is this is what 261 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: you did. 262 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 5: Isn't it? 263 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,359 Speaker 2: I was like yes, Like yeah, it is like Atlanta's 264 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: top everything. I know, it's on cuisine magazines, It's and 265 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: like Forbes because it's so prestigious and snobby likely really honest. 266 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like it was delicious. 267 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't regret it, but it is like I just 268 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: had seen the menu and I was like, this is 269 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: kind of the thing. 270 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 5: So if I'm lucky, I might get a whole hour 271 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 5: next time. 272 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 7: I don't think so. 273 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 5: But if you're currently an MCI customer and you switch, 274 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 5: then you get two hours for free. 275 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 7: I was kidding. 276 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: Oh hey, gotcha. 277 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: Coming back to them trying to be in a relationship. 278 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: He has no sense of humor and really loves his job, 279 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: which is to give away collect calls calling call. 280 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: Oh wow, he just made a sock of too me 281 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: drink duke. Get out of there, Get out of there now. 282 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: He also doesn't like sushi. 283 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: He says, it doesn't like any raw I don't trust that. 284 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: That is one of my most shameful breakups I've ever 285 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: had was over food, where it's like you won't eat that, 286 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: we're done. 287 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean. 288 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I think I would have a hard time 289 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: right now as I'm like going through my cultural experiences 290 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: and trying to be a part of Korean culture. If 291 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: he was not into Korean food, he'd he'd be gone right, yeah, 292 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: you gotta go. 293 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 5: Meanwhile, Samantha was actually beginning to look forward to the 294 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: company of her new neighbors every night like clockwork, right 295 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 5: after the end of the eleven o'clock News. 296 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: Previously, Sam has been listening to the dudes to their 297 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: neighbors having sex. 298 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: Awkward, but Sam's just gonna get into it. 299 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Yes, getting down with the neighbors, very 300 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: loud neighbors. Have you ever been caught by a neighbor 301 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: you have right when you're like three hour playing. 302 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: Three hours? It was an hour thirty minutes. Thank you. 303 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure somebody heard it. I'm sure somebody did. 304 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 4: I was told by a neighbor that I got caught. 305 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Oh really, I was, yes, because we were talking about 306 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: something and it was related. They weren't trying to shave me. 307 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: But I was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. 308 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: But then I had to be like, yeah, I've also 309 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: heard you. That's the problem with tart about like yes, 310 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 2: but like have a good apartment. 311 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: Inevitably, yes, you hear the things. 312 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Kevin, this is Carrie. 313 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 7: Thanksmantha and Charlotte. 314 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: This is Kevin. 315 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 7: That's nice to meet you. I have to have to 316 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 7: go make a quick phone call. 317 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: Be right back. 318 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 7: Waitress, draft beer here. 319 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: He's cute in a tightly wound sort of way. 320 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 7: He's finding out on Tuesday whether he made a partner. 321 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 7: I'm keeping my fingers crossed the hill on wine. 322 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: Some also this nerving. 323 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have my one like 324 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: my boyfriend with all of my friends, like just him 325 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: and like my girlfriends that seem kind. 326 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: Of feeling this is. I've had this a lot where 327 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm very much like that. I'm like, I wouldn't do 328 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: this to you, but I think other people are like, no, 329 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to introduce the guy. 330 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: Don't see it that way, and it kind of has 331 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: caused some tension. 332 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: But yeah, I guess. 333 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I've introduced my boyfriend, but it's after a 334 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,239 Speaker 2: long while and this group thing, and it's not like 335 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: me and just like girlfriends. It's like my guy friends, 336 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: all of us just hanging out, but not that. 337 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 6: It seemed like he came in like all guns blazing, 338 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: like angry and loud. 339 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: Angry and loud. She's cleaning off his glass, like. 340 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: My throat is so sore. 341 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 4: I've just been fighting this cold all week. Oh I'm 342 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: so sorry. 343 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: Really, I'm so suspicious. I never do stuff like that. 344 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm worried i'd actually get sick. 345 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: That's true. 346 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: I have canceled dates, but I'm not in the middle 347 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: of dates. 348 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: I'm not good at getting out of dates. 349 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: I've told you this when like I was with the 350 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: really awkward date and the dude was like, I'm gonna 351 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: order another bed I'm like, I'm done. 352 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: I guess I'm gonna sit here and look at you. 353 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 8: Yeah, Charlotte, Oh Eric, what are you? 354 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 7: What are you doing here? 355 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: I was just leaving you some chicken soup for your throat. 356 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 3: I see you've healed. 357 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 7: Who is this guy? I'm the guy she had dinner 358 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 7: with before. 359 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 4: You you double books. 360 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 7: Hey, Hey, don't feel bad, Bud. 361 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 4: At least you got the late shift. 362 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 7: I mean you got to take her upstairs. 363 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 8: I don't think so. 364 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 7: Enjoy the soup. 365 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 8: Hey, you going to. 366 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 4: Town west side? 367 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 8: I want to share a cap. 368 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 4: Sure they're best friends now. 369 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 5: From that moment on, Charlotte developed a new pattern. She 370 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 5: made it a rule never to take advice from her 371 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 5: friends again. 372 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: But why would she doubles have to be careful book? 373 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: Why would you do it on the same day, That's 374 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: that's nonsense. No, And also, just be up front. I'm 375 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: dating around. 376 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: We're not committed exclusive. 377 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: I'm Sam's got an invite by the neighbors to join. 378 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 5: The musician and the dancer turned out to be a 379 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 5: middle aged Eastern European couple. 380 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 7: He played in a poka band. She was a dancer 381 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 7: once upon a time. 382 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 4: Sam Sanda's all lambed up. 383 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: Would you mind keeping it down? I'm trying to get some. 384 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: Sleep, and now she's walking away. 385 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 7: Samantha broke a pattern after all. 386 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 2: Okay, I really need to know do women wear this 387 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: type of lingerie with the clipped tight sky highs that 388 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: looks I've seen he was. This sounds real ridiculous because 389 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: I'm like, I've seen them for exists, but there's like 390 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: practicality of it. It's like, do people actually wear this 391 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 2: or is this the beginning of a costume for porn? 392 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: Because I'm feeling. 393 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I own in real life. Actually own't wear 394 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: that in real life. 395 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: I mean, let us no listeners. 396 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: Like I said, I own some of it, but I've 397 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: never like worn it outside of like I want to 398 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: feel sexy one. 399 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: Day, but not for anyone else. 400 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 5: Right, isn't this the most amazing block? All these brownstones 401 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 5: are over one hundred years old? You know, it's like 402 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 5: being in the New York of. 403 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 7: Edith Wharton and Henry James. 404 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 5: Sometimes I can't believe how lucky I am to. 405 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 7: Live right here. What the Tit's look really great in 406 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 7: that thing. At that moment, I knew we only had 407 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 7: two things in common. Listen, I did invite you in, 408 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 7: but oh no, that's okay. I gotta get up really 409 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 7: early tomorrow. 410 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: So well that's that. I guess. 411 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 4: That's when you figured out you have nothing in common. 412 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 5: M good. I I knew it was the last time 413 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 5: we'd ever see each other. 414 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: Oh no, this is what happens when you try to 415 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: make it. 416 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get to actually know him, and then 417 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: you're like, I don't like that the. 418 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 4: End of the buddy. Okay, so you got the. 419 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 2: Buddy part right, I mean, you didn't guess anything else. 420 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 3: But okay, I'm learning. I am learning. 421 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: I'll give you a bee. I'll give you a bee 422 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: for all of this. Yeah. Sure, sure, there's so many 423 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 4: things to this. 424 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 2: But now that I've shared so much of my personal life, 425 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: way too much of my personal and by the way, 426 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: it's been years. Obviously, I've been in my relationship for 427 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 2: like five six years. Time doesn't exist. But yeah, it's 428 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: been a minute since this whole origin. But I think 429 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: it's kind of funny because we were having this conversation 430 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: knowing that this episode is coming. I was talking about 431 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: buddies and then about boys and the turn of phrase 432 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: that have happened as of recent and I'm sure people 433 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: can't complain. I'm just talking about the term. I'm not 434 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: saying good or bad about any of these things, and 435 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: it's just a thing. But I do think it's funny 436 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: in seeing like the pattern, the breakup pattern versus your 437 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: dating pattern versus your attraction pattern, and what that all 438 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: looks like, and they kind of cover it pretty well. 439 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, okol way obviously. 440 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's it is true. I mean, 441 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: it's something I've observed in my friends, it's something I've 442 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: observed in myself. And I I've never really broken up 443 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: with somebody, or if I have, it was like a 444 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: mutual breakup. But that's my pattern is I sort of fall. 445 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: I stumble into dating someone and then I can't stumble 446 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: out of it. 447 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 6: Unless unless I accidentally tweet it, which I feel really 448 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 6: bad about. 449 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: I feel so much guilt about that. 450 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: I don't know what Twitter works, things like wait, what 451 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: if you did? What? Wow? 452 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: Like it's embarrassing enough when you accidentally like a picture 453 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: that's from ten years ago, but to actually tweet out 454 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm about to break up with my boyfriend. 455 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 5: Ow. 456 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 457 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: And I think it was two days before I realized 458 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: it and then I took it down for anyone listening. 459 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: Just by the way, if you respond, if you get 460 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: a message from Twitter, that's like you have a message 461 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: and you respond to it, it tweets it. 462 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: It is not a direct message, yes, and then just 463 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: tweeting at you. 464 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, it does still funny. 465 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the funny thing is he never mentioned it, 466 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: but I'm sure he saw it and we did break up. 467 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: You broke up soon after, oh yeah, oh, which is 468 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: when you and I were first hanging out and all 469 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: that went down. Yeah, I still find it very funny. 470 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh gosh, no, No, I mean I do feel 471 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: bad about it, because that's one of those things where 472 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: you can I can see both sides of it, where 473 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: one like, there are a couple of reasons, some of 474 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: them internal and some of them external. Actually that I couldn't. 475 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: I felt like I couldn't in that relationship at that time, 476 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: but I could have, and I knew it was coming 477 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: and I was sort of waiting for him to do it, 478 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: which is not great, But I had my reasons. I 479 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is like there was a bunch 480 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: going on, but it is a pattern and a half. 481 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: It's a pattern that half. 482 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 483 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have many breakup experiences. It's just 484 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: because I've not been in a long term. This is 485 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: my first long term relationship. The few that I had, 486 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: Like I said, the one dude broke up with me 487 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: over an emoji, Yeah, I feel about that. 488 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: Social media has ruined it all. 489 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: I just want you to know that technology has ruined 490 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: it all, has made it well, that has made it 491 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: good and bad, like it's just one extreme or the other. 492 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 2: But the ends the message I think it was Google 493 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: chat actually, and the sad face when I'm like, just 494 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: you just need to tell me. 495 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 4: What you want. 496 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: If you don't want to be with me anymore, then 497 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: let me know, and his response was sad emoji. 498 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: That's oh my god. 499 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: Again, to be fair, I may have rushed this because 500 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: I knew what the sad emoji was, so I was 501 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: like what, and we didn't talk anymore. 502 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 4: I think I responded was I don't. 503 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: Know what this means, and I think he responded with 504 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: something I don't even know if he responded to that. 505 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: I ended up seeing him at a show because of 506 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: course you know how that goes, and I ran out 507 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: because I saw him. 508 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 4: And I was like I can't be here, and that 509 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 4: was the end. 510 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: I never heard from again, except for when he had 511 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: a new girlfriend who ended up being mutual friends with 512 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: someone and I ran into him at my best friend's 513 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: place and I was like, what the are you doing here? 514 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: So that was fun anyway, so many things in this level, 515 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: but that's also my He was a whole story because 516 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: he was like my love bombing addict soon after a 517 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: really bad relationship with an Asian woman. 518 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 4: I should have known, Yeah, I should have known. 519 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: I mean eighty way. 520 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: Still sad emoji, which then a friend of a former 521 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 2: friend of mine decided to use in his song Emo song, 522 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: and I was like, why did you do this to me? 523 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: And he didn't tell me. 524 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: Instead he made me listen to the song and when 525 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: I realized what the song was about, and I turned 526 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: to look at him, like what the is this? 527 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 4: I have good friends, y'all. 528 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 2: But yeah, Like there's a whole pattern to things. I 529 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: find it interesting. You have a pattern of accidentally dating. 530 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: I have a. 531 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: Pattern and running away and just ghosting. I ghost I ghosted. 532 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: Many a dudes. Mm hmmm, I don't mean too. I'm 533 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: also bad at confrontation, surprisingly. 534 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean that's part of the reason 535 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: why I feel like why I've never. 536 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: Really had a break up, but I've had. 537 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: Like, like I said, things, fights that kind of were 538 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: mutually broken up, but I feel like I can't initiate 539 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: it because of the confrontation thing, which I do think 540 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: dates back to trauma, but also oh yeah, just conditioning 541 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: as well. But I ghosted a lot of people in 542 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: terms because I knew that was a problem for me, 543 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: that I wouldn't feel comfortable breaking up or leaving, so 544 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: I did ghost. 545 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: That's actually surprising, yeah, But mostly it was like. 546 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: It was sort of like a early date, like we 547 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: hadn't really maybe it was like a first or second 548 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: quote date. 549 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: And I realized that. 550 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: That's just like thing, you don't really owe anybody. We've 551 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: got into a whole thing. You should talk about this later, 552 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: but you don't really owe anybody anything for a couple 553 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: of dates, and especially for women who have to be 554 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: the ones to be like, I don't like this, and 555 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: then if the dude really fills the opposite and starts 556 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: harassing you, that's a whole different conversation. To be fair, 557 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: men go through this too, I'm sure, but it's a 558 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: volatile level that women have to deal with that a 559 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: lot of men don't. 560 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: But I feel like there's. 561 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: A point in which you're like, Okay, look, I don't 562 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: really owe an explanation other than I don't I'm not 563 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: feeling this, and sure it'd be nice and mature, but 564 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's completely wrong, especially in the 565 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: world of online dating. 566 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 5: Right. 567 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 568 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: And I mean it's one of those things where it's 569 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: like kind of an unfortunate symptom of our culture around dating. 570 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: Because if I felt like I could just tell a guy, hey, 571 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: not feeling it and he would accept that, or I 572 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: would feel safe doing that, then I probably would because 573 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: I would want that on my end. 574 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: Although sometimes I've. 575 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: Been ghosted, I'm actually kind of like, okay, yeah, that's fair. 576 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: Trying to think have I been ghosted? Yes, I have 577 00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: been ghosted. 578 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: I just assumed they found someone better, like it just 579 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: it didn't hurt my feelings. But then when I see 580 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: them again, I'm like. 581 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: Oh, oh, hi, run that's kind of that's what it 582 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: was like for me. 583 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't fun necessarily, but I kind of was like, Okay, 584 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: they're not into it, right, I got it, right, But 585 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: because that I for reasons that are for just personal 586 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: but also cultural. I don't feel like I can do 587 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: that sometimes, so then that's where the ghosting comes in. 588 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: Right, that's the whole level of safety. 589 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: But obviously, and I don't think Sex and the City 590 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: ever talks about online dating is the I can't remember 591 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: in the first season of and just like that if 592 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: they talk about it yet. 593 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: They briefly mentioned it, but not in depth at all. 594 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: Okay, because the only single one technically was Sam and 595 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: Samantha's gone, so and Neil Carrie, who's a widow but 596 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: she just immediately made out with her producer, don't do 597 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: that advice, But yeah, I think there's a lot. This 598 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: was definitely one of those roundabouts. Do you who are 599 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: you attracted to? We know your type is apparently Luke Skywalker. 600 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: I do. I do nerdy boys. 601 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: Typically artistical boys like and I will never date a 602 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: musician again. 603 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 4: I will never date, yes, never again. Thought about that 604 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 4: with like comedians too. 605 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, I would not want to date a comedian 606 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: because like they would take your life as a joke. 607 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: I guess dating us would be bad is bad to 608 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: since we're podcasters and we're quite open about our lives. 609 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: I've thought about that, believe. 610 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 6: That. 611 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about before right now. 612 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: You know, as we're trying to hide and hope that 613 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: the people of our past don't listen to this. 614 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry until your name. I feel like we're pretty 615 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 4: kind is unless you piss us off. But yes, so 616 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 4: there you go. 617 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: We have the Buddy, in which we find no new romances, 618 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: but habits. 619 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 4: That will be. 620 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: Corying along, right, And I think those habits can they 621 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: shine a light on stuff about you as well as 622 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: to why you do that? But yes, I hope in 623 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: the next one, I'll get even better with my title 624 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: guessing situation. 625 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: Shouldn't make you do more than one sentence though the whole. 626 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: Like I guess it's Buddy. That's gonna work anymore? Any No, 627 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: don't put rules, I'll never win. 628 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: Well, Okay, So we are slowly chipping away towards our 629 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: listener participation episode. It's coming and we are very, very 630 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: excited to do it, and we've given the details in 631 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: the past one. I think like this might be your 632 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: last chance to enter because we're getting It's not that 633 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: we're getting good, so we're going to have to We're 634 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to like plan things and do things. So 635 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: we're we are getting closed, but there's still like, I 636 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: don't know, ten episodes, which is wild. 637 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 4: It's never ending. 638 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot that TV seasons used to be like 639 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: twenty six episodes. Yeah, but yeah, we are gonna We're 640 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: getting there. But this is your fine. I would say, 641 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: this is your last call to enter for this time. 642 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: We're going to do it more than once, but for 643 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: this season if you want to participate in the meantime, 644 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: Thanks as always to superducer Christina, who makes these happen amazing. 645 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 3: You can contact us if you would like. 646 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: You can email us at Stuff Media, mom Stuff at 647 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia dot com. You can find us on Twitter at 648 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: mom Stuff podcast, or on Instagram and TikTok stuff I've 649 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: Never Told You. 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