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Speaker 1: Give me some stories about that, because that was jail.

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Speaker 2: That was before social media, like, so you weren't getting

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Speaker 3: And you know what, it's so crazy you say that

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Speaker 3: Now they got a soccer team and you know, a

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Speaker 3: We wasn't nothing. So everything was focused on us. You know,

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Speaker 2: Give us that team though, Biggie she Bi Rule, Bonzie Wiggles.

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Speaker 4: Hey, just hearing them names, I'm about to out the

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Speaker 1: Big Biggie, we had a lot of O G s.

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Speaker 1: Davis Scottie Man, you did. Yeah, it was the Wow.

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Speaker 1: We had a bunch of O G So are you

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Speaker 4: Wow cigarettes and wepus cigarette said we you know we

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Speaker 1: My man shout out to my man some bones.

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Speaker 3: Give give us a story, though, I don't get I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Give you a story, man. I was.

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Speaker 3: My rookie, my rookie year, and I'm riding downtown Portland.

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Speaker 3: I got you know, that's when you put the TV's

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Speaker 3: to jail for d w I man, I said, damn,

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Speaker 3: after that, I guess I joined the jail. JA, don't

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Speaker 3: don't worry about the z. I went to jail for

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Speaker 3: the same. They guess what both of us was INNO

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Speaker 4: Hey, So I want to tell you this because and

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Speaker 4: I want you to speak on this because quint Tail

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Speaker 4: was was with y'all boy and quin Tail came to us,

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Speaker 4: and I knew how tight y'all was, and me and

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Speaker 4: him got real tight.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: But he used to always speak highly of you, you

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Speaker 4: him down and just respect for you that you had

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Speaker 4: before I even knew you, I felt like I knew you,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it was always waiting

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Speaker 4: being over here. We never really had that. But today

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Speaker 4: I shot your podcast and then you have this on

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Speaker 4: the podcast. But I feel like it's been a long

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Speaker 4: time coming down. We should have been chopping up. Man,

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Speaker 4: Come on, man, chopped I could have played for Memphis. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: with them dogs he shut the bill, man, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 4: nah man, I appreciate him.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: And Quinteil shot on my boy. Quint Teil came with me.

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Speaker 3: We was both. He came my second year, so it

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Speaker 2: I want to touch on another one of your teammatescause

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Speaker 2: I think he's one of the most underrated players. He

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Speaker 2: went on in Detroit, won championships. But she wats to

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Speaker 2: me when I first came to the league. Was man

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Speaker 2: impossible guard? Oh my god, Like he was impossible to guard.

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Speaker 2: He had the high release, he had the little keen

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Speaker 2: And he was nasty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was nasty. Ship talking off, talking ship all game.

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Speaker 1: But no coming in.

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Speaker 3: Man received a great guy, man, my big bro, and

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Speaker 3: I learned so much from him just coming in and

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Speaker 1: Because for me, I think she a fifty perfect game

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Speaker 1: to day. You know, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Perfect playing at the five right now.

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Speaker 3: Back then, they used to write stories about him shooting

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Speaker 3: so many threes, and now you look at today's games,

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Speaker 4: So it's like, see, you would have been perfect for

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Speaker 4: today's game. I mean the toughest thing for me to guard.

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Speaker 4: And I just remember this like like it was yesterday,

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Speaker 4: because it was like a nightment of guard. Was Rip

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Speaker 4: What the hell is he doing over there? Yeah, like

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Speaker 4: you said, it's a high release, you ain't. You ain't

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Speaker 4: contesting that it's missing. Make even on his turnaround jumpers

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Speaker 4: and his shots, it's missing. Make with your high relief,

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Speaker 4: you ain't got so ahead of the game. He was

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Speaker 4: another underrated aheaded the game and a real one.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you talked about the difference now because obviously we've

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Speaker 2: doing that stuff. Difference in two thousand and one. When

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Speaker 2: you get into now fast forward to two tal twenty five,

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Speaker 2: everyone talks about shooting threes. Give me your take on

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Speaker 2: where the game is and where it's going and where

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Speaker 2: it was when we played.

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Speaker 1: The difference, the.

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Speaker 3: Difference of the game me, I think you know that,

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Speaker 3: like you said, they don't they took the inside out.

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Speaker 1: Some teams use it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: But for me, it's the person that everybody want to play,

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Speaker 3: Like you know, Steph Curry like to go to State

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Speaker 3: you ain't got the personnel to play that type of way,

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Speaker 3: that's how you get going seeing a layup fall one

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Speaker 3: range so taking it, everybody shooting threes. The game has changed.

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Speaker 3: But I think, you know, I like where the game

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Speaker 4: Worshet, I love the skill set. I just wish it'd

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Speaker 4: be more of a focus on defense.

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Speaker 1: Still. I'm a defensive guy.

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Speaker 4: Guard your yard.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired.

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Speaker 4: They be in the one sixty to one sixty five

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Speaker 2: I'm cool see that no more.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see that no more. I'm sick

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: Is what we disagree.

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Speaker 4: It's one sixty one sixty five, and it's the third part.

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Speaker 1: What the hell is going on?

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Speaker 4: And why is the best player on this team not gotten?

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Speaker 1: The best player on this team?

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Speaker 4: You get all the shots, and do you want to

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Speaker 4: go down here and God Joe Schmoe. Then when you

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Speaker 4: come back down you want me to pass it to you?

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Speaker 4: Ain't done shit down here to help us win. Sitting

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Speaker 4: in the corner, Yeah, whatever happened today is when the

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Speaker 4: best players used to God the best players. So what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, that's that's what I would love to see.

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Speaker 4: I'm cool with the offense, but goddamn, and get some stops. God,

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Speaker 4: you y'all, you feel me like? God, you y'all like

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Speaker 4: back in the days that used to be frowned upon

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Speaker 4: when you couldn't guard your coach, take your glass out.

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Speaker 4: Now you've got four motherfuckers that can't guard, and maybe

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Speaker 4: won that can. Well, guess what them four motherfuckers can

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Speaker 4: get back to having those two way players. Those guys were. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he the man offensively, but he gonna take the challenge

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Speaker 4: defensively too. Because I tell you one thing, Dog, and

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Speaker 4: another level. When your best player is that guy. Now

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Speaker 4: we know some teams have the best player who just

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Speaker 4: no excuse for those other fourteen guys in the locker

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: You talk about teams, man, I was fortunate enough to

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