1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast today. I 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: think you're in for a treat. We are going to 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: be reading for our Bachelor diaries. I actually kind of 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: want to make this a series if enough people said 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: they have Bachelor diaries. Mine is the cringiest thing of 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: all time. I showed Ben yesterday. It looks like something 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: that Belle would have. 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: It's very intimidating. 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: I bought it in the airport, thinking, you know what, 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: I should have a journal for this experience. 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 4: And you told me. 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Before we hit record that you actually don't have a journal, 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: which I thought you did, but you did have one, 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: and then you turn it into your book in plain sight, 17 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: and so now you're just going to be reading from that. 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like a free commercial for a lose. 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: I was going to say. 20 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: I was like, is this a podcast as part of 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: the extension pack. 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: Of your head? 23 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 5: No? 24 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 6: I did have a journal, and I found this little 25 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 6: journal that I'll talk about. 26 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: It's very different than yours. Goodness yours. 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 6: I just want to take a second. Can you have 28 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 6: you ever thought about this? But in like one hundred 29 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 6: years let's say we're not here on earth. We've moved 30 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 6: on and yeah, and somebody digs up like your house, right, 31 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 6: they're remodeling it, and they dig it up and they 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 6: find this book and they go, oh, my gosh, it's 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 6: a treasure. It is it is historic. This has to 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 6: have meaning and significance. And then they open it up 35 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 6: and they read, So I was in love with this 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 6: guy named Chris Souls and he was really cute and 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 6: I kissed him for the first time. 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: Can you imagine what these people are going to think. 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: I think that if it's a girl who finds it's 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: just gonna be like, Wow, I want to go live back. 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: Then this sounds like a good life. That's romantic. 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: She's like, I'm out here getting robots, you know, I 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: don't know who's AI and who's a human. 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: That's scary. 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 6: My journal did turn. I still have it somewhere. I 46 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 6: think it's in a book in my garage. 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 4: But a loane and plane, a box in your garage. 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 6: And a box my garage, sorry, and a loan and 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 6: plane site is the is the like more formulated professional 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 6: version of the journal. I took the notes and the 51 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 6: key points of the journal in my own insecurities and 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 6: turned it into this book that was re released because 53 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 6: we added a couple chapters into it, one on being 54 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 6: a dad, a couple, on being a husband, and so 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 6: it just came back out. And so I thought, well, 56 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 6: if I can't find the journal, I can find this 57 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 6: little thing I'll talk about. But then I'll also read 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 6: from alone and plane site. But honestly, this whole episode 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 6: is not about me, and I mean it, it's really 60 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 6: about you, because your journal is going to make us 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 6: so happy. 62 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: I mean, Ben, I'm reading the first page and I'm like, 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 4: I don't think I can do this. 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if I can put this out there. 65 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: I did a couple of years ago on my I 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: don't get a podcast, I read excerpts from some diary. 67 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 2: Was it the Bachelor Diary or was it? I think 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: it was the Bachelor Diary. So let me just say, 69 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: when you open it, you get like a whole bunch 70 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: of these cards. So first up is a date card. 71 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: It says Ashley, love requires sacrifices. Your date is tonight. 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I know who that was with. This 73 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: was with Canadian Daniel. I went to the tribal Data 74 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: some of these are Paradise, not oh yeah, this is 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: like a Bachelor. This is a Bachelor plus Paradise. But 76 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: I admittedly did not write as much in Paradise because 77 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: I was. 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: Like overwhelmed my emotion. I was like, I don't even 79 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: know idea. 80 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: I was like, it'll be documented on TV. I can't 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: even I can't either. 82 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 6: Okay, here's how this is gonna work. I'm gonna let 83 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 6: you spend the next few minutes and read some excerpts 84 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 6: that you think are great, and then we're gonna play 85 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 6: a little game. I'm going to tell you the number 86 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 6: of pages you need to turn, and you're going to 87 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 6: turn that number of pages in this you are, and 88 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 6: you're going to have to read at least a paragraph 89 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 6: from those pages so that you can't cultivate this experience 90 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 6: to be less embarrassing. No, we're going to get into 91 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 6: the nitty gritty here, but before we do that, I'm 92 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 6: going to give you a few minutes here, Ashley, just 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 6: to start reading to us, please please. 94 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: No, okay, okay, Well all right, I just opened this 95 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: and this is a layout of our dance for Winter Games. 96 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: This is our routine on the ice. And then I 97 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 4: have some. 98 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: Together, did we? 99 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: No? That would have been absolutely incredible. 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel I have some cards against humanity as 101 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: if we played that and it meant something because. 102 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: We didn't play that a lot of that during the Bachelorette. 103 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay. 104 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: And then I have another date card here that says, actually, 105 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: I choose a man to get dirty with on today's date. 106 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: Huh huh Again, who was that for? Who? Who did 107 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: I take on that date to get dirty with? Oh? 108 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: Okay it was Kevin? Oh because it was the pottery. 109 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: This is a lot of these. 110 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: That was winder Games. Interesting. 111 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: Okay, well that was probably the only artifacts that I 112 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: have from Winter Games in here, because I don't remember 113 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: writing in here during Winter Games. 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 4: But maybe there's one page. 115 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: Okay, this is the most embarrassing thing ever. This is 116 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: page one. I'm not sure whether I'm writing to myself 117 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: or whether I'm writing as if I'm talking to Chrystal's 118 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: good lord. 119 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: It's simple. I'm picky. 120 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: I have no desire for to settle for less than 121 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: I deserve, make any or to make anyone my boyfriend. 122 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: There have been only a handful of guys that I've 123 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: liked to this point, and they happen to that have happened, 124 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: and they've happened to love the non committal hookup culture 125 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: that we live in and have never committed to me, 126 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: never wanted a real relationship. And I'm a hopeless romantic 127 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: to a fault probably, and I'm too wrapped up in 128 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: the chick flick type of love story. But even though 129 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: my expectations and sanders are high, I think I should 130 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: be courted. I think I desire a proper romance, and 131 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: that's why I've held out. That's what I've held out 132 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: for in a relationship and sex. And then I have 133 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: some notes for myself. 134 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: This page literally bullet points. Yes, this is page. It's 135 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: this is how I wanted to get on. 136 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: Can I pause you here? 137 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, because I think we're getting an insight into who 138 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: you are. How much like how nervous were you about 139 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 6: your virginity like story going into this show. I mean 140 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 6: that that is a very vulnerable and very open conversation 141 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 6: to have. Like I don't typically ask my buddies about 142 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 6: their sex life, right, it's not really my business. Now 143 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 6: most of them are married, so I guess maybe we're different. 144 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 6: But this this, I'm assuming it was a big deal 145 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 6: for you to even open. 146 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: Up about this, well, because it was in my audition 147 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: tape and I knew it was a big component to 148 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: why they were like so interested in me, and it 149 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: was brought up during audition casting weekend that I knew 150 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: that it was going to play a storyline and I 151 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: was going to have to talk about it. So this 152 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: is kind of me prepping in like the so how 153 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: did you get to be a twenty six year old 154 00:07:59,160 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: virgin conversation? 155 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 6: Okay, before you keep going, why was it in your 156 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 6: audition tape? 157 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: Like this was something that you wanted to speak about. 158 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: No, I hadn't understated because I knew that they would 159 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: probably be more interested in me if I put it 160 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: in there and knew it was a Gettera. So this 161 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: is apparently my notes in how I should present myself 162 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: in getting out of the limo. Steady yourself, like this 163 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: is me, like getting out of the limo and like 164 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: stay there, pose, show the dress for a second, look up, smile, 165 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: lock eyes, say hey, handsome, good lord, it's so nice 166 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: to finally meet you. 167 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: I've been daydreaming about this moment for a while. 168 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: Did you say that I'm Ashley. I'm so glad it's you. 169 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: I said this, I'm so glad it's you, Chris. Make 170 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: sure to say his name. My whole family is so 171 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: happy it's you. Even my critical grandma, and she brought me. 172 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: She bought me this dress for the occasion. She always says, oh, 173 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: he's so warm, so warm. My grandmother actually started watching 174 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: the show before I went on, like to see who 175 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: was gonna be my bachelor, and she really enjoyed Andy season, 176 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: and then she really liked Chris. 177 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: And she's still with us at one hundred. 178 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 6: And two, and she really liked Chris just because he is, like, 179 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 6: I mean, Chris is like the lovable Yeah, lovable, I 180 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 6: mean he is. Did you act like accurately say all 181 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 6: these things. 182 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: That you wrote down? 183 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: Well, I remember, just because of the edit that I said, 184 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: I'm so glad it's you. 185 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 4: I don't think I said my whole family is Maybe I. 186 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: Did say my whole family is happy it's you, and 187 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: then the next one it says, anyway, I feel so 188 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: blessed to be here and having this opportunity with you. 189 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk to you more later. And 190 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that I didn't say I'll 191 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: see you inside, so I said, I can't wait to 192 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: talk to you more. 193 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: Later I did say that, did you wink? No, I 194 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 4: winking doesn't come natural to me. 195 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 6: Okay, So you don't like walk past and be like, 196 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 6: I can't wait to see you inside. 197 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: I didn't say that. 198 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: So then I go on and on again. How I'm 199 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: traditional in old school, and I'm okay with that given 200 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: the plat I said, but given the platform, I want 201 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: to start. 202 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: Oh look at this, this is so amazing, he says. 203 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: I want to start a dating revolution and bring courting back. 204 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: I challenge any guy watching this to ask a girl 205 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: if they're interested in out on a one on one date, 206 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: even if it's just meeting at a bar for drinks. 207 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: It doesn't happen enough. It's so simple. It's nerve wracking. 208 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: But what's the worst that can happen? 209 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: Why were you embarrassed by that? That's sweet? 210 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: No, it is, but it's just like so funny. I 211 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: want to start dating revolutions. You look, look at the gameplay. 212 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: Look at the gameplay there. According to the game of 213 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: roses Zee, I had an agenda. 214 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 6: You, Donda, which is very interesting because I never would 215 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 6: have expected you to have one but your agenda was 216 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 6: not about yourself. Your agenda was about sparking healthy dating 217 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 6: across your generation. I think that's very selfless and very wonderful. 218 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 6: I guarantee you there's some people out there that watched 219 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 6: you date and related to your story and said, hey, 220 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 6: I deserve a man to treat me well. 221 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: Keep going. 222 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: I'm having to good time with this, so use your 223 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: girl power and demand to be treated right. Being the 224 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 2: booty call is usually meaning that you're the submissive one, not. 225 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: The powerful one in the relationship. 226 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 6: Wait, I'm just a little bit confused on how you 227 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 6: like again, friend of friend here, I'm just trying to 228 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 6: figure stuff out. I'm confused on how you went from like, 229 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 6: here's my story, I'm a virgin to booty call. 230 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying, don't be the booty call. 231 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: This was apparently like the message that I wanted to 232 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: get out there to women like I wanted to use 233 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: my virginity as kind of like or you know the 234 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: fact that I was going to have to talk about 235 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: my inexperience and relationships and being like this, this is 236 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: why I am the way that I am, And I 237 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: was just so less articulate about it. 238 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: On screen. 239 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 6: Do you today, as a married mom of two? Do 240 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 6: you read this and say get on you? 241 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? Definitely. 242 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: I still like, very much stand with what I'm saying here, 243 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: but it's also just like really cringey to actually read. 244 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 6: Well, that's what diaries are all about. Yeah, is there 245 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 6: any other passages that you're really excited about? If not, 246 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 6: I'd love for you to turn six pages six pages. 247 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like a lot of virgin stuff in here. 248 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 2: Like guys are often shocked, no one expects it. They 249 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: ask how I don't get asked out. 250 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 4: On a lot of dates. 251 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: I'm a homebody and I don't so I don't have 252 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: to explain it much. A lot of people really really 253 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: respect it, and that means a lot. But here I 254 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: am boyfriendless, So I'm looking for someone who is loyal 255 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: and who makes me comfortable, and I want to feel 256 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: I want to feel like I'm talking and laughing with 257 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: my best guy from but I also want to jump 258 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: on and make out with him, and it's hard to 259 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: find that combination. My parents have been married for thirty 260 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: four years. My dad still tells my sister and I 261 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: how much he loves my mom and how beautiful she 262 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: is and how lucky we all are to have her. 263 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: My parents have set their set of relationship standards high. Okay, 264 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: so this starts to the diary and not so much 265 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 2: like my planet my talking points. Oh my god, I die, 266 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: I literally. Okay. This is interesting because the first time 267 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: I actually had like an like in depth conversation with 268 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: him besides like night one was I guess day two 269 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: when I was sitting on his lap on a tractor. 270 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: Oh is that a. 271 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 272 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: Okay? 273 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: And I said it was a bit uncomfortable to have 274 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: to sit on his lap in a bikini during our 275 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: first real conversation. It made it harder to warm up 276 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: conversational Conversationally. I'm most concerned with my image. Guys often 277 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: think that they're thrown off me because like I come 278 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: across a little bit, you know, I don't. 279 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: It doesn't align with my innocence. Always. 280 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: I want him to know the last thing from a 281 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: promiscuous party girl. I know that he understands this is 282 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: a show, so we're gonna be putting awkward scenarios, but 283 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: I want to give the right impression of myself. I 284 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: they don't have time for him to figure all this out. 285 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 6: It does feel like you spent a lot of time 286 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 6: writing in this during souls this season. Yes, that most evenings. 287 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 6: It sounds like you are updating your journal or getting 288 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 6: your thoughts out. 289 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: Oh here. 290 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm also very scared about talking to him about what 291 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to do in life, because I said I 292 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: felt awkward talking about my field being broadcasting because in 293 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: bachelor language, I mean, she's not here for the right reasons. 294 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: I know that's so not true. I was raised in 295 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: a family with a stay at home mom, and I 296 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: would want nothing more than that if given the opportunity, 297 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: I put love, marriage and family before anything, and I 298 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: drop anything for that. It's frustrating to me that one 299 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: of the few things that you can't control when it 300 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: comes to having a success and quality of life is 301 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: finding someone. And then you want me to fast forward 302 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: to the end. 303 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd love to kind of get into the meat 304 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 6: of the season where you're I'd love to hear your 305 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 6: perspective as were you know, four or five episodes in. 306 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: This is the last entry that I have from Chris's season, 307 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: and it's not near the end. I still had like 308 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: a full like ten days after this anyway, last night, thankfully, 309 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: Chris and I got back to a great place. I 310 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: love feeling like it was the like it was post 311 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: camping trip, but I wonder if that's a good. 312 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 4: Enough point to be at right now. 313 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: I then talk about how I'm very comfortable making out 314 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: with him in front of the camera. Even though it's 315 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: in front of the camera, it doesn't feel like it is. 316 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: Then I again say, this is the season of the virgin. Carly, 317 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: who's twenty nine, told Chris on the one and again 318 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: she's born again and she's waiting for marriage. 319 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: Carly, where are you for this word? 320 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: What? 321 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: I don't think this ended up playing out. 322 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: No, I don't think, and I think she might have 323 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: a traumatic story. And Becca is twenty five and just 324 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: like me and waiting for a serious, loving, real relationship. 325 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: Today I will spend the day being thankful, eating, stressing 326 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: about tomorrow and thinking about Chris, analyzing and maybe going 327 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: into Chris's room later dot dot whatever the heck that means. 328 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: It's being talked out, or so I'm told by the producers, 329 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: I need to even get more aggressive. And if this 330 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: was my idea, and this was my idea, if I 331 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: didn't get a one on one this week, I needed extended, 332 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: non interrupted time, and I'm looking forward to it, but 333 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: I guess I'm not going to get my hopes up. 334 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: All right, there you go. 335 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: This isn't that embarrassing? 336 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: Ashes No, I mean there's a few lines that I'm 337 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: like abridging. 338 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 3: Okay, why do you think you stopped writing? 339 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. I wish I had not stopped. 340 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: Really, this is so funny, though, because do you know 341 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: what my first line in Paradise is? 342 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 4: It's just as Paradise the top Okay. 343 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: And then it says things are good about to go 344 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: down like a Taylor Swift song I Love You. This 345 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: is because I was relating to a Taylor song. It 346 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: was better than revenge. I said that I felt like 347 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: Carrie with blood dumped on me. 348 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 3: See, I have no clue what you're talking about. 349 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 4: So Carrie, you know Carrie the horror movie. 350 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: Oh, the horror movie. 351 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, like that's how I felt. Oh look at this. 352 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: I think you're greater than Tom Brady. Ignore my giant's affiliation. 353 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: I think you're just as hot as Garoppolo. And most importantly, 354 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: you've been the only guy to thoroughly distract me from 355 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: someone else for three years. 356 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: These damn Scorpios. 357 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot I even wrote that letter 358 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: to Jared. 359 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: Wow, I haven't thought about this in the years. 360 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: And then in Paradise too, in preparation for season two, 361 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: I wrote my story like as if I was going 362 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: to write a book, so I said. I read Cony 363 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: Robertson's book on the way to casting weekend for the 364 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: first season, and that prepared me for this journey. And 365 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: just now I'm reading Andy Dorfmann's book as I sit 366 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: on the balcony back in Port of Vierta, confined to 367 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: a hotel run for the second year in a row. 368 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: As I sit relishing in the humidity, I brace myself 369 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 2: for what could be an even more heartbreaking experience than 370 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 2: last year's trip. Here a second romantic movie plays inside 371 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: my beautiful suite, and one of my favorite parts about 372 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: my bachelor experience has got to be all the unlimited 373 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: free room service. 374 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: Andy's book has. 375 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: In a way prepared me for how to deal if 376 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 2: that devastating heartbreak is actualized. Somehow, even though it seems unlivable, 377 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: I will survive this possible loss and should simply consider 378 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: it the end of a chapter, not the story. Roughly 379 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: the first year to all of these shenanigans was a 380 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: total blast. It was all about becoming a more confident person. 381 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: And my second year I met Jared and while I'm 382 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: going into my fourth year consumed by. 383 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: Said person at home. 384 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: I never saw Jared coming until I did, and I 385 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: expected what I believed to be my only bow of 386 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: love at first sight. It's unfortunate that I didn't keep 387 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: a better record of the beginning of our relationship, a 388 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: version that isn't televised. However, that story was told for 389 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: Milliams to see, and it was a pretty accurate portrayal 390 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: of our relationship at that point, in all of its 391 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: cheesy glory. It He truly makes me want to be 392 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: a better person. 393 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: Would you like me to continue or should I stop? 394 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: I want you to continue, Ashley said. 395 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: I wish I could be as selfless and thoughtful of 396 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: others as he is. He's the kindest heart, and at 397 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: some points over the year, I believe it's almost been 398 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: to a fault when the ugly truth the movie ironically 399 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: is playing in the background is that if he were 400 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: a little less caring and sensitive, my heart could have 401 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: been shattered months ago and I could still be in 402 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: the healing process, but no. Instead, I find myself still 403 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: holding on to hope that our incredibly strong friendship could 404 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: evolve into something more. I just refuse to believe that 405 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: two people who love each other so deeply can't imagine 406 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: and can't imagine their lives without each other, who are 407 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: so compatible and so delighted at each other's company, How 408 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: can we just not be together romantically? The past year 409 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: certainly hasn't been with all its fair shares of teas, 410 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: certainly hasn't been with its fair share of teases of 411 00:21:59,119 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: this happening. 412 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: This past year has been has been. 413 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: It is definitely the right word, of course, without them, 414 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: I like to think that I wouldn't be so hopelessly 415 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 2: in unrequited love with him. If you asked me this 416 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 2: time last year where I would have thought my relationship 417 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: with Jared would be, I would have said that either 418 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: non existent or my boyfriend, as I did believe that 419 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: he did need time. 420 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 4: To recover from Kaitlin and be friends first. 421 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: Despite the tears and at times heartache, Jared has enhanced 422 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 2: my life and made me more mature. While I still 423 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 2: have a positive outlook on love, I know it's not 424 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: as simple as they make it seem in the movies, 425 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: and I find myself in less of a fantasy world, 426 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: despite the fact that Jared is a fantasy come to life. 427 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: And anyone that I've ever found as close to Prince Jermy. 428 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: He's taught me emotional intimacy, and I believe our relationship 429 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: has been a bit of a refresher course for him. 430 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: People don't understand our relationship and they probably shouldn't because 431 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: our relationship is definitely one of a kind anyway that 432 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: goes on and on and on. 433 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: That's really sweetish, you know, man. 434 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: I mean it is like pages beyond that because this 435 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 2: was me sitting in the hotel room. 436 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's got like twenty pages. 437 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 2: This is me sitting in the hotel room for five 438 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: days being like I'm writing our story up until now, 439 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: and that's and I think I do get to the 440 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: point where it was like present day. 441 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ashley, It's absolutely wonderful. 442 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 3: It always is. 443 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 6: It's a great reminder, and thank you for sharing this 444 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 6: with us. I'm going to take the last few minutes 445 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 6: here to talk about yourself. 446 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: Now it's your turn. 447 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 6: Come on, now, I can do that. This is really fun, 448 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 6: so I have this little black book. So when I 449 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 6: was growing up, my mom would print off like Bible 450 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 6: verses and put a new one up every week on 451 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 6: my mirror and my bathroom, like tape it up there 452 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 6: and I could like remember it. And so for The Bachelor, 453 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 6: when I went on the show, she took those verses 454 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 6: in some of my favorite quotes and put them all 455 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 6: in this book so I could bring it with me 456 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 6: and read. But the coolest part is I kind of 457 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 6: forgot this. I've always loved Winnie the Pooh. Winnie the Pooh. 458 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 6: Initially it was brought up at our wedding. Well, the 459 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 6: first page is a picture she drew. It's really sweet. 460 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: That's so crazy, Ben, you would one day have a 461 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 4: daughter named Winnie. 462 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: I know. 463 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 6: And the quote here is how do you spell love? 464 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 6: Piglet said that and Pooh answered, you don't spell it, 465 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 6: you feel it? Is that sweet? 466 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: So sweet. 467 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 468 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 6: So it's fun to look through this and see all 469 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 6: these like quotes that are in Bible verses that are 470 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 6: written down for me. And I used it a lot 471 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 6: when I was on the show, just to like, you know, 472 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 6: you're away from your family, you're traveling all around, you're 473 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 6: stressed out, life's changing, and so I remember I had 474 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 6: this with me and I just look at it. It'd 475 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 6: been like a good reminder of my family back home 476 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 6: and like setting like just setting me back up for 477 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 6: some foundation. 478 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: So it was fun. 479 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: I found that for this so nice. I love that. Well, 480 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 4: can you read a couple more? 481 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 2: Oh? 482 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I can read a couple more, and then I'm 483 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 6: going to read a little section from my book that 484 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 6: was like really taken from my journal. So we have 485 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 6: a quote from doctor Seuss and here that says, be 486 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 6: who you are, Be who you are, and say what 487 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 6: you feel, because those who mine don't matter, and those 488 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 6: who matter don't mind. The first Bible verse here is 489 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 6: one Peter five versus six and seven. It says, so 490 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 6: be content with who you are, and don't put on airs. 491 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 6: God's strong hand is on you. He'll promote you at 492 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 6: the right time. Live care free before God. He is 493 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 6: most careful with you. 494 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 3: Oh this was good. 495 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 6: It's kind of going off of Ashley some of our 496 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 6: conversations about people of faith today, and you know how 497 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 6: they're speaking about faith on social media and this kind 498 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 6: of like strong arm mentality people have. But I remember 499 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 6: this little prayer that was written by Peter Marshall short. 500 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 6: But I remember it hit me during the Bachelor when 501 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 6: I had made some mistakes, and it's funny when you're 502 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 6: on that show. 503 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: Did you make any mistakes? 504 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 6: I was showing favoritism, I think, okay, and I was 505 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 6: there was a moment and I still like really like 506 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 6: hurt for this Olivia KAREDI was getting just I knew 507 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 6: she was getting kind of like blasted by the like 508 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 6: producers like they needed a villain, and she kind of 509 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 6: got like singled out and I didn't put my foot down, 510 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 6: and then I failed to put my foot down even 511 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 6: post airing of the show, and I really regret that 512 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 6: to this day. 513 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 3: She didn't deserve it. 514 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 6: It wasn't real, it wasn't true, and it really, I know, 515 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 6: it really hurt her. She's great, and so yeah, maybe 516 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 6: not the big mistakes that you'd see on television, but 517 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 6: like inner turmoils that were going on. And so the 518 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 6: prayer says, Lord, when I am wrong, make me willing 519 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 6: to change, and when I am right, make me easy 520 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 6: to live with. So yeah, there was just these like 521 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 6: really good reminders. And the cool part about it is 522 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 6: it felt like all these reminders were humbling in nature 523 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 6: but uplifting in its spirit, so like it kept me grounded, 524 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 6: I think was the word I was looking for earlier. 525 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 6: Like it did, it kept me very grounded throughout the 526 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 6: whole process when life is getting thrown at you and 527 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 6: you just read that and you're like, Okay, I don't 528 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 6: want to change here, so help me still navigate this 529 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 6: being the man that I've always dreamed to be, wanted 530 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 6: to be, desired to be. And then I wrote now 531 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 6: that this is obviously coming from the book Alone in 532 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 6: Plain Sight, which is a whole book on hopefully the 533 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 6: reader feels less alone when they're done reading it. And 534 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 6: so it kind of takes little sections of my story, 535 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 6: my journal, especially Bachelorrette when I was feeling super insecure, 536 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 6: haveing a lot of questions, and formulate it into like 537 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 6: more of a like a book where there's some like 538 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 6: response and solution, so it's not like a diary where 539 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 6: sometimes it's hard to read or grammar's wrong. 540 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: This has been edited, so I just want to. 541 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: Preface with that, Yes, I apologize for my stumbles, but 542 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: I remember going onto the show. 543 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 6: I remember a night laying in my bed in Denver, 544 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 6: A couple of weeks before the show arted, and my 545 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 6: buddies had told me this thing, like and they're friends, 546 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 6: and to some level, I'm kind of happy they said this. 547 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 6: Other ways, I think it was really mean, but they 548 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 6: came over to kind of help me get packed and 549 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 6: they said, I said, oh, man, I don't even know 550 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 6: how much I need to bring, and they said, well, 551 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 6: you'll probably be there like two weeks. 552 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: There's some studs that go on that show. 553 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 5: And I it's so out of touch, Like I love 554 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 5: the way they humbled you, but like when six foot 555 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 5: four Ben Higgins locks in the door, like that is 556 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 5: the ultimate Bachelor candidate, Like. 557 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: That's hilarious that they wouldn't think of you like that. 558 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 6: It really did, Like it hurt because I was trying 559 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 6: to pump myself up, like hey, you belong here, You're 560 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 6: gonna have fun here, and it like really set me 561 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 6: back on this, like this is just embarrassing kind of 562 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 6: the thought of why would I even do this if 563 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 6: I'm only gonna be there two weeks, Like I don't 564 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 6: want to make a flu of myself again. This is 565 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 6: gonna be embarrassing, But I still chose to do it, 566 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 6: and I'm proud of myself for that. And then the 567 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 6: next thing they said was, well, maybe you can last 568 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 6: long enough to become King of the Nerds, meaning like, 569 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 6: maybe you'll like actually do something on this show, but 570 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 6: if you do, it really doesn't matter. Anyways, two really 571 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 6: like hurtful things. So I remember laying in my bed 572 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 6: going goodness, like, am I making the biggest mistake of 573 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 6: my life? Is this going to absolutely crush me? I'm 574 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 6: all ready very fragile, and if you remember me coming 575 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 6: into the Bachelor, I was already very insecure, and I 576 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 6: thought this could either be the like, this could really 577 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 6: be something that puts me over the edge. I wasn't 578 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 6: necessarily a great place mentally, and then I wrote on 579 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 6: my plane flight to Los Angeles, Yeah, how would you 580 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 6: say that? 581 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: Why on your flight? 582 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: On my flight? 583 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 6: Okay, on my flight, I wrote this whole synopsis on 584 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 6: what is love? 585 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: Okay, see you and I are both like thinking interesting 586 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: where our heads are at, going on our plight? 587 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 6: And so let me read this because this kind of 588 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 6: is the excerpt from my journal that answers that question, or, 589 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 6: at least to the best of my ability, says what 590 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 6: is romantic love? Some of us skip through life assuming 591 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 6: we know the answer. We know love when we feel love. 592 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 6: But how do we know what we feel is actually love? 593 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 6: Could it be nothing more than a primal instinct and lust? 594 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 6: At first, the two feel a lot alike. We meet 595 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 6: somewhat somebody, and since an instantaneous attraction, sparks fly, hearts flutter, 596 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 6: blood flows. The moment we first speak to one another, 597 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 6: we feel the chemistry. Then our hands touch, and it's, 598 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 6: to borrow a line from an old movie magic, When 599 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 6: our lips meet for the first time, fireworks explode, but 600 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 6: our fireworks proof of true romantic love. Sparks may fly, 601 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 6: but are sparks enough for us to know that this 602 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 6: is the one we will be with forever. Chemistry doesn't 603 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 6: equal a healthy relationship, something many of us have to 604 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 6: learn the hard way. Nor do the feelings of being 605 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 6: in love mean we've found our one true love Again, 606 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 6: I must ask what is true romantic love? I have 607 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 6: wanted to pursue true love for as long as I 608 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 6: can remember. My parents started praying for my future partner 609 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 6: even before I was born. Anything they'd pray about for. 610 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: Us isn't that sweet? 611 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 6: Anything they'd pray about for so long must be a big, big, deal. Remember, 612 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 6: at this point, I'm very single. Anything this big had 613 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 6: to be taken seriously, and I didn't want to blow it. 614 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 6: That's why one day, while laying shingles and pounding nails 615 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 6: on the roof with my dad, I asked him, Dad, 616 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 6: how do you know Mom was the one? At the time, 617 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 6: my mom and dad had been together for thirty seven years. 618 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 6: The two of them still seem madly in love. If 619 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 6: ever I'd witnessed true love, it has to be my 620 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 6: mom and Dad's relationship. So I wanted to know their secret. 621 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 6: I sat back and waited for my dad to let 622 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 6: me in on the secret that unlocks the mystery of 623 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 6: finding true love. I honestly expected him to say something 624 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 6: life changing, to give me some profound truth that would 625 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 6: illuminate my path forward toward true love. My dad paused 626 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 6: for a moment as he thought about the question, then said, Ben, 627 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 6: when you know you know? At that, my dear readers, 628 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 6: is the Dave Higgins secret to understanding true love? When 629 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 6: you know you know? I could not hide my surprise. 630 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 6: My jaw dropped and shocked, and I asked, is that 631 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 6: all you've got? Yep, that's it, my dad said, with 632 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 6: a smile like he actually had revealed one of the 633 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 6: greatest mysteries of the universe. When you know you know, 634 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 6: he said again. I shook my head. I don't get it, 635 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 6: I said, When you know you know? That makes no 636 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 6: sense to me. How am I ever supposed to know? 637 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 6: What does that even mean? My dad grinned and shrugged 638 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 6: his shoulders. You'll just know, son, he said again. Except 639 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 6: for most of my life, I haven't even known what 640 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 6: I was supposed to know. I felt sparks, I've seen fireworks. 641 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 6: I felt the euphoria where I gladly drive four hours 642 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 6: on a Tuesday night just to spend a couple hours 643 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 6: with the one I love. Then I drive back home 644 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 6: in the middle of the night and get up tired 645 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 6: for work the next day, and then do it again 646 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 6: on a Wednesday, if that's what it took to see 647 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 6: her again. But the euphoria didn't last, and neither did 648 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 6: that relationship. None of my relationships did for the first 649 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 6: thirty years of my life. And then it goes into 650 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 6: meeting Jessica and to going on The Bachelor. 651 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 4: Ben. 652 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: It's so funny that we both so much wrote about 653 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: love and relationships on the flight. I like talk about 654 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: going for the right reasons, like our headspace was all 655 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: about this, this is a huge step in our romantic life. 656 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: We weren't even thinking about the other things to come 657 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: with it. 658 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 6: It really, I mean, I think that is when we 659 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 6: you know, the Game of Roses show was such a 660 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 6: fun show I think for us to be a part of, 661 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 6: and I think to like to summarize it and to 662 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 6: give us some credit this, you know, this isn't like 663 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 6: a self promotion more than a hey, I think they 664 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 6: casted us hoping for something right. They loved your virgin 665 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 6: story and for me, you know, maybe it was just like, hey, 666 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 6: the good old boy next door from the Midwest, and 667 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 6: he seems to relate to our target demo. But I 668 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 6: think what they didn't meant, what they didn't see, was 669 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 6: this just deep desire in our life to find a 670 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 6: partner and knowing that we had to take some risks 671 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 6: to find it along the way, you know, be that 672 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 6: reality television or be that just getting out there in 673 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 6: the world. And you and I both weren't doing a 674 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 6: great job at getting out there in the world and 675 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 6: dating at the time of the show, because we're home 676 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 6: buddies bodies we're a little bit more introverted when it 677 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 6: comes to like the social scene, and what the show 678 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 6: maybe couldn't have cast it or known about us was 679 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 6: our deepest desire at the end of the day, bring it, 680 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 6: bring the money, bring the fame, bring the attention, all 681 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 6: those things. That's great, but we would have never replaced 682 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 6: our true romantic relationship for those things. And today I 683 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 6: think I could speak for you and say you could 684 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 6: take all the other stuff away, but do not take 685 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 6: away my wife, like you could take all that. I 686 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 6: give it all back to you in a second. But 687 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 6: it was worth it, right, And I think that's the 688 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 6: crazy part, and maybe the message that people need to 689 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 6: hear is we dreamed of it, we wrote about it, 690 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 6: we thought about it, we processed it, we asked our 691 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 6: closest loved ones about it. Now you know, we found 692 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 6: it and it was better than I ever could have thought. 693 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 6: And my dad, and it goes into this this next section. 694 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 6: If somebody asked me today, Ben, how did you know 695 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 6: Jessica was the one? 696 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 3: It's funny and. 697 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: Then I wanted to ask you that I wanted to 698 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 2: be like, so when you met jess what did what. 699 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 4: Did you think? 700 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 6: I remember this moment on our first date, Ashley, Internally, 701 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 6: I thought. 702 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 4: I think I know, you think I know, I think 703 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 4: I know yeah. 704 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 6: And then I said, this is either going to be 705 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 6: the greatest thing to ever happen to me in my 706 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 6: life or the hardest thing that ever happened to me 707 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 6: in my life and ended up being the greatest. But 708 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 6: if somebody asked me today, how did I know Jeff 709 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 6: was the one? I would say with confidence, when you know, 710 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 6: you know, yeah, that's so cute. 711 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: I dies so cute. I wanted to say that. 712 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 2: Have you seen that trend on Instagram and TikTok where 713 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: it's like you're going to get a call the Susie 714 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 2: and Blake both did it okay, And it's like you're 715 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: going to get a call in your twenties and it's 716 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 2: going to tell you and then like you fill in 717 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 2: the blank and then and then you're supposed to basically 718 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 2: say you have to do it. And of course Susie 719 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 2: and Blake have made it bachelor oriented, so it's like 720 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: you're going to get a call that you have to 721 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 2: go date some guy along with twenty nine women on 722 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 2: dash Haal TV and you have to say yes to it. 723 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: And it shows like their life over the past, you know, 724 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 2: with Susie like six years and then him like close 725 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: to ten. And it's so good. It's so good. You 726 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 2: have to do it. It'll make you smile. You have 727 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: to watch theirs. It's very uplifting. It's really cool to 728 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 2: see how lives turn out. 729 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: It is. 730 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 6: It's fun. So that's an insight into the brains of us. 731 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 6: Ashley's unfiltered and as I said, I had the benefit 732 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 6: of getting mine edited and filtered and distributed across the 733 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 6: world this point, so you can go pick up Alone 734 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 6: and Plain Sight. 735 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 4: The new edition, the new edition. I love it. 736 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can go pick that up right now. It's 737 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 6: out for the holiday season. I'm really excited about effect. 738 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 6: And you can continue to listen to us here on 739 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 6: the Almost Famous podcast. Today was a day of introspection 740 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 6: and vulnerability. And Ashley, thank you for bringing us into 741 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 6: your world through your diary. 742 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing yours too. It makes me so smiling, 743 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 2: and I hope everybody out there listening is also smiling 744 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: because it's very It's a great message out there, great 745 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: message to put out there. 746 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 4: I love it. 747 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 3: Until next time, I've been ben I've. 748 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 4: Been Ashley, See you, love you Bye. 749 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on iHeartRadio, 750 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.