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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another edition of Club Shasha. I am

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Speaker 1: your host, Shannon Sharp, also the proprietor of Club Shasha.

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Speaker 1: The guy that's coming by today for drink and conversation,

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Speaker 1: is one of the most swagging alicious guys in all

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Speaker 1: the NFL. He's definitely the most swaggon alicious tight end.

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Speaker 1: He's a Super Bowl champ, six time Pro Bowl, two

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Speaker 1: time first Team All Pro, and he has five consecutive

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Speaker 1: one thousand yard receiving seasons. The Great Travis Kelt all

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Speaker 1: my life, the grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle beg pricing,

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Speaker 1: one slice, got the bron dice swath all my life.

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Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, the

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Speaker 1: running all my life, sacrifice, hustle beg prices, one a slice,

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Speaker 1: got the dice to swap all my life. I've been

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Speaker 1: running in all my life. Nephew, what's going on? Uh?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Shannon? Man, it's a it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: I told you right before, A man, it's a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to be on here. Man. You were You're one of

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Speaker 1: the goats that that laid out this platform of success

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Speaker 1: for a young tight end like myself to come through

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Speaker 1: on and I appreciate deeply for it. Man, Man, I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you coming on. I know it was kind

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Speaker 1: of last minute. We kind of threw this thing together.

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Speaker 1: I reached out to you and ask you could you

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Speaker 1: do it? You say, brouh, no problem. Let me get

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Speaker 1: back to you within a day. Here we are doing

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Speaker 1: this interview. First of all, I want to congratulate you.

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Speaker 1: Congratulate you on a great regular season. At the start

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Speaker 1: of your season, tell me what are your thought process?

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Speaker 1: What are your goals? How do you go about laying

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Speaker 1: out this is what I want to accomplish in a

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Speaker 1: given season. Well, I think the biggest thing about setting

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Speaker 1: goals is you have to review. You have to you

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Speaker 1: have to study yourself. You have to figure out how

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Speaker 1: do I get better, how to where at what points

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Speaker 1: of my game can I have more success to help

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Speaker 1: the team out. And the biggest thing for me was

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Speaker 1: I had I had way too many drops. I had

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Speaker 1: way too many routes that I did not get open

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Speaker 1: on which I had a feel that I could have

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Speaker 1: gotten open on it. So that's helping our path, that's

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Speaker 1: helping out the offense move the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: In terms of first downs. I wanted to do more

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Speaker 1: more in terms of that, and then touchdowns. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to put more touchdowns up. I thought anything in single

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Speaker 1: digits just isn't enough. I'm not doing enough for my team.

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Speaker 1: So individually, you said, you set you know, goals for yourself, Uh, statistically,

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Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I mean, winning

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Speaker 1: every single game was It was the biggest thing on

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Speaker 1: my mind. I felt like our team was good enough offensively,

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Speaker 1: defensively and special teams wise to go out there and

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Speaker 1: uh and win every single game. And so far, we're

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Speaker 1: very close to that. But we're we're working for the

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Speaker 1: number one goal, which is to get another Super Bowl. Man.

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Speaker 1: When when when I hear you talking, you say about drops.

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Speaker 1: And I've always looked at guys, guys that catch a

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have drops because they're always looking to make

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Speaker 1: that big play. And you consider yourself not only just

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Speaker 1: a typical tight end, you are a big play. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna need a hundred yards. I need touchdowns to get

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Speaker 1: down the fielding. Sometimes you have to take you off

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Speaker 1: the ball. You're like, okay, I got this. In turn

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Speaker 1: and try to locate that defender as soon as possible.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's all focused.

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Speaker 1: And then what comes with that is understanding and being

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Speaker 1: aware of the things around you. So knowing what coverage

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Speaker 1: it is, knowing where your head is coming from, increases

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Speaker 1: when you get the ball to be able to split

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Speaker 1: the fenders and get north. Little stuff like that. It's

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Speaker 1: being more aware so you can focus on the football,

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Speaker 1: you know, and uh and and put in the work

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Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks to make sure that you guys are

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Speaker 1: on the same pages in terms of what they like

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Speaker 1: to see or where they like to see. You feel

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Speaker 1: the voids depending on what the defense is presenting. So

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Speaker 1: it's just making sure you're on It's a team game,

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Speaker 1: right Stop trying to either help pull the fenders to

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Speaker 1: But I think having having drops it in themselves or

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Speaker 1: any excuse of all, it is just lack of focus.

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Speaker 1: And over the course of my career, I've really tried

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Speaker 1: much trap them been several tight ends to have a

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Speaker 1: hundred kids seasons, have a hundred catch in a season.

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Speaker 1: You're the only tight end that's ever done it twice.

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Speaker 1: And to do it coming off of Super Bowl, when

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Speaker 1: a lot of times people have what they call a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl hangover. How were you able to stay focused

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Speaker 1: and like, Okay, yes I want a super Bowl, Yes

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Speaker 1: my team want a super Bowl. But I can come

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Speaker 1: back and I can be better, even better than last year,

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Speaker 1: and help this team repeat. I would like to think

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Speaker 1: of it as what are you trying to be? Are

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Speaker 1: you always chasing greatness? You know? And when and when

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Speaker 1: this greatness stop? It never stops. So as long as

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Speaker 1: get better and better every single year. With that being said,

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Speaker 1: I'm in an extremely fortunate situation. I'm sure you turn

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Speaker 1: on the film and you watch the film and you,

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Speaker 1: you know, might have wished you had the opportunities that

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Speaker 1: I was getting. I mean, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting the ball thrown to me like I am

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver, and I understand tight ends don't get

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys before my time, yourself, Tony Gonzalez.

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Speaker 1: The list goes on. I mean the list goes on.

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Speaker 1: But it took guys like that to gain the trust,

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Speaker 1: very fortunate to be able to have coach read And

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Speaker 1: then on top of that, one five is back there

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Speaker 1: slicing up the defense anyway you can and taking an

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Speaker 1: that I'm there for my teammates and always chasing greatness.

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Speaker 1: Travel When I look at your stats, like I said,

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Speaker 1: you have five consecutive one thousand yard receiving seasons, over

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Speaker 1: in what you call for a hundred receptions. When I

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Speaker 1: first got into the league, that was reserved for the elite,

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Speaker 1: elite wide receivers. The Jerry Rice is my brother, Chris Carters.

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Speaker 1: There are very few receivers that could put up those

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Speaker 1: you understand what you're doing and how special it actually

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Speaker 1: is I'm not gonna lie, honestly, I'm just appreciative of

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Speaker 1: to be able to you know, have that success for

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Speaker 1: the team. And I see that. I'm not blind. I

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Speaker 1: has told us, and the tight end position has been

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Speaker 1: very It's been put in a bubble for a long

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Speaker 1: if and if the tight end has enough pride to

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Speaker 1: take his ownership in his craft, that is, knowing the

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Speaker 1: entire offense, having the responsibility of doing that, make it

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Speaker 1: sure your on time and prompt for your other teammates.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely thankful that I get this opportunity every single

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Speaker 1: day to put up these numbers. Man, when I look

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Speaker 1: at the evolution of the tight end position, the guys

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Speaker 1: are getting bigger. Dude. I played basically my whole career

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Speaker 1: at about two twenty five, two twenty eight you guys play,

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Speaker 1: I had to get in, I had to get in

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Speaker 1: You guys are like a power forward or a small forward.

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Speaker 1: Talk about what your ability at being six five and

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Speaker 1: It was definitely party way. It wasn't it was. It

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Speaker 1: so so moving the tight end obviously, you find out

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Speaker 1: You have to be able to protect the shoulders. You

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Speaker 1: I really found a love for this game because growing

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Speaker 1: basketball is my favorite sport. You could throw in hockey

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Speaker 1: those like you just said, that's small forward, power forward.

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Speaker 1: If I had a bigger guy, I'd take him out

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Speaker 1: take him down into the post. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: If I got a smaller guy who kind of played

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Speaker 1: And when you see my routesh, it's almost like I

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Speaker 1: That's why. That's why I'm on the football and we suspect.

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Speaker 1: But I always had the ability to make plays see

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Speaker 1: Being in the quarterback room my first couple of years

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Speaker 1: timing when the ball needs to be out, in terms

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Speaker 1: be an artist. Yeah, there's they're they're on on paper.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have a certain route, you're gonna have a slant,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a corner route. Being an artist though,

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. It amazes you every single time time and

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Speaker 1: his development into the being, you know, the best wide

431
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Speaker 1: receiver in the National Football League every single game, The

432
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Speaker 1: accountability he puts on himself. It's really creating his own

433
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Speaker 1: new route tree because of how fast he is. Most

434
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Speaker 1: of his routes are twenty yards downfield. When I tell you,

435
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Speaker 1: if I if I get twenty yards down field, that

436
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: ball better be out. Now. They get along to get

437
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: to get into twenty yards. Pat doesn't have that much time. Tyreek, Tyreek.

438
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: He just takes He takes four or five moves twenty

439
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: yards downfield. Now, I mean, you just can't cover that.

440
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: And the stress he puts on the defense. A second,

441
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: another talk about your quarterback, Patrick Mahomes. You were there

442
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: when he arrived. They trade up to get him with

443
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: the tenth pick in the draft. They told they they

444
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: moved heaven and Earth. What were you thinking on draft

445
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 1: night when Andy moves up seventeen spots to take Patrick Mahomes.

446
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 1: What was going through your mind when you see him there?

447
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, when did you and when did you know?

448
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: Like this kid's special? I would say I was. I

449
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 1: was just reading Tyreek Hill said he can't let the

450
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: cat out of the bag and said, oh, we all

451
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: thought he was trash. I'm when I tell you that

452
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Speaker 1: he that never went across my mind that he was trashed.

453
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: Tyre was just messing with him. But you could tell

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Speaker 1: the moment he walked in the room, how personable he was,

455
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Speaker 1: how his energy, you know, how excited he was to

456
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Speaker 1: just be in the building. You could tell right then

457
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: and there that guy was special. I didn't know necessarily

458
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Speaker 1: how great of an army had. You know, everyone talks

459
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Speaker 1: about how far he could throw in a Texas Tech

460
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: and this and that. But seeing him develop from just

461
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Speaker 1: a gun slinger, I mean his first year, his first

462
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Speaker 1: true year in the league, which was which was his

463
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: second year, his first true year in the league. Seeing

464
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Speaker 1: him develop from just a natural gun slinger to being

465
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Speaker 1: able to create a routine of successful that watching film.

466
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Speaker 1: He watches film before before he was even in the league.

467
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 1: He's watching film of certain teams and certain defenses. And

468
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: he's got these notebooks that just get packed with what

469
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: looks like chicken scratch. But it's like it's like decipher

470
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: and a code to him, you know what I mean,

471
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Speaker 1: It's all it's all his letter and all his wording,

472
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: but it all makes sense to him. Right. It was

473
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: this weekend, week out and just keeps getting better and

474
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: better and better and better. To be able to sit

475
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Speaker 1: behind Alex, I think that helped him out a lot.

476
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Speaker 1: But I also think that he was going to have

477
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Speaker 1: success no matter where he went. Man. The guy's determination,

478
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: his ability to just feel comfortable out there and uh

479
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: and be able to sling the rock however he feels

480
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Speaker 1: it is necessary. Man, It's it's been a pleasure to

481
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Speaker 1: work with him and see him growing to the best

482
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Speaker 1: player in the National Football League. Well, I knew it

483
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: was special when you when they when you guys rested

484
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Speaker 1: Alex in week seventeen and you went to Denver and

485
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: it was cold and he threw for like three He's

486
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: been like three touchdown. I say, this dude can play.

487
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like no, no, this dude, this dude can play.

488
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: And it was it was like you can know, you

489
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: get those those Texas tech gun slingers. Man, they only

490
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: know how to throw it in a hundred degree heat,

491
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: right and it was ice cold, you know, yes, in

492
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Speaker 1: late December early January. I mean I'm talking about ten

493
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: degrees was as hot as it got and it was

494
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: it was it was ice on the field. So for

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00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: him to go out there and still be able to

496
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Speaker 1: sling it the way he did, man, with the confidence

497
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Speaker 1: that he had, it was definitely special. But there were

498
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Speaker 1: there were there were throws throughout the year that I

499
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Speaker 1: saw on scout team and the stuff that he was doing.

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Speaker 1: W I was like, listen, man, this guy's this guy's

501
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: got it. I don't know. I don't know how this

502
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: offense is gonna change when he takes when he takes

503
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: the lead, or when he when he takes over the huddle.

504
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Speaker 1: But he's got it, man. Andy doesn't. And I've known

505
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: that Andy was my brother's offensive coordinated when he was

506
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Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Yeah, and so he's very imaginative and

507
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna get his playmakers the football. He you mentioned

508
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: something about how he tries to go about and tries

509
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Speaker 1: to find a mismatch and when he finds that he's

510
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Speaker 1: gonna take advantage of you. You go back to Tampa. Well,

511
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: they were gonna single to Tyree and he's like, Okay,

512
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you double Tyreek. And then you look

513
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Speaker 1: at the next two weeks you have back to back.

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Speaker 1: I think, if I'm not mistaken, eight cases, one hundred

515
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: and thirty two hundred and thirty six yards. So going

516
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Speaker 1: to the mind of Andy, what is it? What is

517
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: it like playing for Andy? First off, it's an absolute blast. Man.

518
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Speaker 1: You want to talk about a personable guy, the ultimate

519
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: leader exactly. You know how how how many different personalities

520
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: you have in an NFL locker room? Man, Yeah, there's

521
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 1: so many different different people from different walks of life.

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Speaker 1: You have to be able to relate to all of

523
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Speaker 1: these types of people as as a as a grown

524
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Speaker 1: man in the NFL, you have to be able to

525
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Speaker 1: expect as a head coach in the NFL, you have

526
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Speaker 1: to be able to relate to all these grown men. Right.

527
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Speaker 1: That's what coach Reid does is he does an unbelievable

528
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Speaker 1: job of of fueling guys would trust that this process

529
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Speaker 1: works with on top of that, being able to have

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Speaker 1: the discipline to be able to talk to a guy

531
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Speaker 1: as a man and tell him you need to work

532
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: a little harder, you need to do this, you need

533
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: to do that. Get that respect out of somebody. And

534
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: Coach Reid doesn't like nobody else. Man. He tells everybody,

535
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: let a personality show, but no, we're going to go

536
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: to work and h And ever since I got into

537
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: the league, man, I've just been like a fly on

538
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: the wall every every single thing that he's taught in

539
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: the offensive room, I've listened to, whether it's to the

540
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Speaker 1: running backs, to the quarterback, to the offensive line, and

541
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Speaker 1: to the wide receivers or to other tight ends. I've

542
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: listened to every single thing that he has to say.

543
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: And his overall knowledge of the game is second to none, man.

544
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: And I've learned just so much just by listening to

545
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: him talk to everybody that I've literally given him no

546
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: reason to put me anywhere on the field. And with that,

547
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if you get everybody with that kind of

548
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: mentality and you it just makes it that much harder

549
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: on the defense. Zero indicators for the defense to be

550
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: able to say that that I'm running a certain router,

551
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: that somebody else is running a certain round. It just

552
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: opens everything up. I'm watching him call plays and he'll

553
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: try anything anywhere you try to throw a pass. He's

554
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: letting save me walking through a pass. Uh. Your your

555
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: your completion percentage is not very good. Our skill set,

556
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: our skill positions on the offense, I think we got

557
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: like three or four picks as as an offense and

558
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: as a skill pause. I don't know you'll be seeing

559
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: us pass the ball anytime. I'm been waiting on Tyreek

560
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: now to make it complete, to let Tyreek throw one,

561
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: and then then then it'll be done. With the wide

562
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: receivers and tied in throwing passes, you already know. We

563
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: only got one more opportunity until it's everything's boxed. But

564
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: that's coach read that's his personality. Man. He likes to

565
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: have fun and let guys. He likes the offense to

566
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: be be a whole lot of fun for everybody. And

567
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna give guys opportunities that they typically

568
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't have otherwise. What's Patrick Mahomes like in situations? Because

569
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: you look at the last several weeks, you guys have

570
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: needed to go down and get scores in order to

571
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: win the game. What's this the meanor like normally and

572
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: what's this demeanor like in situations where you need a

573
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: field goal or you need to touch down in order

574
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: to win this game. You can see it on his face. Man,

575
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: he just locks into another degree. And it's not that

576
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't locked in before. He just the confidence that

577
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: he has. And I really think it all pays tricky

578
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: to how much how much film he watches and how

579
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: much he dissects the defense before going into a game,

580
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: because in the crucial moments, the moments where we needed

581
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: the most, the moments where you need to focus the

582
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: most and understand what's going on with the defense the most,

583
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is always ready. And on top of that,

584
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: the ball is always where it needs to be and

585
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: we always move the chains. And you can't say enough

586
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: about that because because situational football, I mean, that's that's

587
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty. That's one of the fourth quarter, four

588
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: minutes left in the game, down to score, maybe down

589
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: two scores. What are we doing? What kind of motor

590
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: we in? We need a leader to be confident in

591
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: what we're doing and how we're going about our business.

592
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: And one five, I mean second and none. He's always

593
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: right on time, always on point in terms of throwing

594
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: the ball, in terms of what we're doing, in terms

595
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: of blitch pick up. He just has everything, everything figured out, man,

596
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: And I think it all pays tribute to how much

597
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: he works and how much mental acuity. He really asks.

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00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 1: When I look at you, guys that you mentioned formade

599
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: the offense, I formadd offense. When I was in Denver

600
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: in the West Coast system, it was two tight ends,

601
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: two backs on a wide receiver. You guys basically staying

602
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 1: you're saying you stay in your same formation, three wives,

603
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: eleven person basically eleven personnel. And I'm like, wait a minute.

604
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: And you look at Tampa on third down, He's like,

605
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 1: I'm not running this football. I'm throwing it. You look

606
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: at a couple of last week. I'm not running this football.

607
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm throwing it. The confidence that Andy has in him,

608
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: because even I've seen a lot of great quarterbacks when

609
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: the situation like that is thirty one, they're handing the

610
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: football off, they're running the football. But Andy has the

611
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: utmost confidence in that young man to make plays, to

612
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: absolutely make a play, no matter what if the first

613
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: readers and there. Now let's get freaky time. We're out

614
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: the we're out the pocket. We're doing we're doing whatever

615
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: we got to do this first tund That's what Pat Hawsley,

616
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: he calls it. It's time to get free because when

617
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: packets out of the pocket, that's one of our biggest players. Happened,

618
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: his ability to see the entire field, understand where to

619
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Speaker 1: throw the ball. And I mean you can't you can't

620
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: not get excited for those moments. But it goes back

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Speaker 1: to what we were saying about, you know, having as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, having the ability mentally to to you know,

623
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Speaker 1: under pressure, be able to know what to do, and

624
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: you have that moxy. Aaron Rodgers another guy just swagged

625
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: us out there walking around, got the swagger, got the

626
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: got the confidence, and that just loses out of both

627
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: of them. And you know, and as a player, you

628
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: just know that guy is gonna be ready. So so

629
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: having having trusted that guy is gonna be ready, I

630
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: can go out here and just be myself. I don't

631
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: have to do anything above or beyond my capability because

632
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: that guy is special right there, and he's going to

633
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: make the play happen. You mentioned about how the play

634
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: getting off script, that's what we call it. Get off script,

635
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: you call the play is not there? Now? Can you

636
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: get off script and go make a play on your own?

637
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: What makes him unique? There have been a lot of

638
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: guys that can get outside of the pocket and maybe

639
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: if they're rolling right, they can make a play going

640
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: to their right, or maybe they can make a play

641
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: of their legs, But there have been very few guys

642
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: that when getting off script, can still throw the ball

643
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: fifty yards over your head rolling left or rolling right.

644
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of it honestly goes

645
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: back to his day's playing middle infield or playing playing

646
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: baseball to be able to open the hips, have the

647
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: arm strength no matter where your heads or your shoulders

648
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: are are, whatever direction they're in, Because the biggest plays

649
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: you see in make or when he's rolling out right

650
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: and he throws it all the way across the field,

651
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: or you're rolling out left, it throws it all the

652
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: way across the field. The big who knows the don't

653
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: throw it over the middle of late, you know, the

654
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: all the no nos. As a quarterback, he's throwing all

655
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: those in the trash. He's like, we can make that throw.

656
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: That throws it's makable for us. And as a player,

657
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: you just get excited off of that. Man. I mean,

658
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is to have the

659
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: faith in the trust in your ability as a quarterback.

660
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: And I mean Pat he works those throws all day

661
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: every day in practice. You'll see him make those throws

662
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: three or four times a week. And as a player,

663
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: you just know that he's going to be able to

664
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: make that play in the game, or he's gonna be

665
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: able to make that throw in the game. You just

666
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: gotta be ready for it. Can't let a surprise you.

667
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: You grew up in Ohio with an older brother, Jason.

668
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: When you guys were growing up, did it ever, did

669
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: you guys ever talk about playing in the NFL? What

670
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: were your dreams, what were your aspirations of growing up

671
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: as two young boys? And man, when I tell you,

672
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: I had a very very fortunate upbringing to be able

673
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: to have my brother two years older than me kind

674
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: of walk the walk the steps before I was able to,

675
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, jump into it and see how he conducted

676
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: himself and see how much success he had tried to

677
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: one up him. It created a competitive aspect in the household.

678
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: And it was never just oh, we're gonna go to

679
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: the NFL or oh we're gonna go to the MLB,

680
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: excuse me. It was always just whatever sport we wanted

681
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: to play that day. So I was a very big

682
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: I remember when I was real young, playing hockey and basketball,

683
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: both winter sports. I would go from hockey practice straight

684
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: to basketball practice, or go from a hockey game straight

685
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: to basketball game. And it just and I told you,

686
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: I played lacrosse and football, basketball, baseball, soccer, I mean,

687
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: you name it. Both of us played at all. And

688
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: I think what that did was it gave us great

689
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: understanding of leverage. A game is great understandings at angles

690
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: and uh, and it just got us competing in so

691
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: many different ways. So mentally it was every game became

692
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: a chess game. But to have that guy kind of

693
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: go through this football life before me and for him

694
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: to have success within it gave me all the confidence

695
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: I needed to know that I belong and uh and

696
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: I owe a lot of my a lot of my

697
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: success to that guy. You know what, It's funny that

698
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: you say that because my brother came before me. He's

699
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: three years older than I am, and I remember when

700
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: he went to college. I'm like, well, hell he went

701
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: to college, I could go to college. And when he

702
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: got to the NFL, I'm like, well, hell I could

703
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: beat him in the backyard. I shouldn't be able to

704
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: go to the NFL too. That that was my thinking.

705
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: It never dawned on me like, uh, the NFL is

706
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: really tough to get to and a lot of guys

707
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: don't make it. I'm like, well, hell he there. He

708
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: lived in the same house with me. What makes him

709
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: so he ate the same food that I ate? We

710
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: were just leave pretty much at the same time. So

711
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: I think it, Oh, yeah, I'm definitely going to the NFL.

712
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: If that was that your thought process, also, without a doubt,

713
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 1: the one thing it was for me, It was why

714
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: wasn't I having the type of success that he's having? Right?

715
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: And that didn't come around to college because I had

716
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: I had probably a little bit more success. I actually

717
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: had college offers to play basketball, to play football. My

718
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: brother was a walk on at the University of Cincinnati.

719
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: When he went to University of Cincinnati, I asked him,

720
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: my life, why would you go there out of all

721
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: the places and and for him it was the coaching

722
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: staff and everything aligned for him. And I just followed

723
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,959
Speaker 1: my footsteps, gave my parents one way to go. And

724
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: I didn't have success in college. I just thought I

725
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: everything was fun for me. I was I was. I

726
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: was fun guy. I was. Let's go out here and

727
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: enjoy our time out here in practice, have a few laughs,

728
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: make a few jokes. Where my brother he was like

729
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: the switch turned on. Everything just turned into business for him,

730
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: and and it was and it was a strategical business

731
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: approach even in the college level. And I didn't really

732
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: pick up on that until I moved to the tight

733
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: end position and I really got in his brain on

734
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: how he was thinking. Right. What that did was it

735
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: was almost like, well, now we're playing chess, and that

736
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: was a game that we played growing up almost every

737
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: single day at the dinner table, you know, just just

738
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: throw the chessboard out there and let's go. Let's let's compete, right,

739
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: And it was just I mean to understand that, to

740
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: see it in person, to know that he's having success,

741
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: and that's my that's blood, that's I know, our athleticism,

742
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: you know, mirrors each other. Yes, I know, I can

743
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: have success. I just have to channel my mind differently

744
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: to be able to have the success that he's having

745
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 1: or the success that I want. Did how how how

746
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: old were you when you outgrew him? I was probably

747
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: a sophomore in high school. I might have been a freshman.

748
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: I might have just I think, yeah, I jumped on

749
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: him my eighth grade to freshman year, I was about

750
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: five ten five eleven and eighth grade, and then my

751
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: ninth grade year freshman year of high school, I was

752
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: sixty four, just a tall, lanky didn't know what to

753
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: do with it. All I could do is long snap

754
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: and try and get down the field and tackle somebody.

755
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: That's funny that you say that, because I really don't

756
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: think I grew my brother until I was probably like

757
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: a junior senior, because my freshman year I was five five,

758
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: one thirty two, and then by the time I became

759
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: a senior, I was like, you know, one hundred and

760
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: eighty pounds. But this number tell the story. How you

761
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: chose the number eighty seven eighty seven. So I have

762
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: a lot of pride of where I came from and

763
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: the people that have helped me out along the way,

764
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: because I know I know, my silly self needed some help.

765
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I needed some guidance. I needed somebody to slap me

766
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: upside the head and tell me which way to go

767
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: in life, just because I always chose the fun route

768
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: over what was needed. And my brother has always been

769
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: that for me. You know, He's always been the the

770
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: one that you know, like I said earlier, kind of

771
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: walked walked this life before I was able to even

772
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: get into it right. I took so much, so much

773
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: pride and seeing him have success that I wanted to

774
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: have that same success or. I wanted to have success

775
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: for this family. And and it all started back in

776
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty seven in Cleveland, All Hire, when my

777
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: brother was born. I had like three or four different

778
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: numbers that the chiefs were told me I could grab,

779
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: and eighty seven was one of them. It was the

780
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: only one that really made sense for me. Was to

781
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: was to you know, show some love to the to

782
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: the guy. And I don't think I would be here

783
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: without him, uh, knowing that, you know, this has definitely

784
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: been a fun journey man. So I was just showing

785
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: a little love to my brother. It's that's an unbelievable

786
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: because that was the same thing that happened to me.

787
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: To have somebody that's already walked the path, that's already

788
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: there where you're trying to get to, to tell you

789
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: what you need to do, how to go about it,

790
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: and once you get there things you need to do

791
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: is invaluable. But when I want to go through some

792
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: some some all Time Brothers. Okay, we got the Watts,

793
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: I've got the Barber's ridden and Tiki. We got playing

794
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: Bruce Matthews. We also got the son Clay the Third,

795
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: we got Peyton and knee Lie. We got the Kelsey's

796
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: And when yours truly last, would not least pull it

797
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: up the rear the sharks sterling in shadow? Where where

798
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, where are we gonna

799
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: put the Kelsey's on the All Time Brothers NFL Brothers lift.

800
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to start throwing. I'm gonna have to

801
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: just put on an Excel sheet of what everybody's accomplished.

802
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: I'mnna have to see what it and see what it is. Man.

803
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: After that, we have to turn on the tape. You

804
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, the taped on a lot. I

805
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: ain't just got ain't gonna a lot's gonna be hard

806
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: to kiss to manage. Man, God, dank, I got dank

807
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: and they did it at all three levels, high school, college,

808
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: and man, you I would put us up there though. Man,

809
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: I think I think our journey, our our road and

810
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: then the success we've had at the time that we've

811
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 1: been in the league. Man, you can't you cannot say

812
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: that that both of us were dominant players when we played. Man,

813
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: And you know that's something that privateully you can hang

814
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: your hat on as you know. Man, Yeah, it's it's

815
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: an unbelievable feeling. I remember the first time my brother

816
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: and I made the Pro Bowls together, we made first

817
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: team All Pro together. Man, it's that's a that that

818
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: that's that's an unbelievable feeling. There's there's nothing like that feeling.

819
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: And and unless you know it's you know, people like

820
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: what that you know it's but you don't get it.

821
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: There have been a lot of brothers and you know,

822
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: when you make the All Pro team, that's just not

823
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: one conference. That's for the entire league. And to have

824
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: you like manage to go to the Pro although you're

825
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: not gonna have it this year, to go to the

826
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl and take that picture standing on the field

827
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: with your brother and knowing where you came from and

828
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: here you are here, man, that's a great feeling. That's

829
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: a great feeling. Trial you got it. And and obviously

830
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: everyone always likes to say the statistics of youth football

831
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: and the oh, the one of a million, you gotta

832
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: be one of a million in high school and then

833
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: one of one hundred thousand in college, and this and that.

834
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: But for two guys to be able to come from

835
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: the same place, the same household, and be able to

836
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: have this much success in this game, and it's definitely special.

837
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: And like I said, man, I hang my hat on

838
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: that one right there. So football, you said, I remember

839
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: you telling the story earlier. You played a lot of sports.

840
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: You played lacrosse, you played hockey, hockey, you played basketball,

841
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: You played football once you say, you probably got to

842
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: the tenth of eleventh grade. He was like, football is

843
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: my passion. Football is to rid them. So did you

844
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: stop those other sports or did you just dedicate more

845
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: to football, to be honest, To be honest, it was

846
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: my sophomore junior year of college where I was to

847
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: take football series because I went to the University of Cincinnati.

848
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: Played both sports. All. The reason why I even committed

849
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: to the university was I went down to Cincinnati for

850
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: a five star basketball camp and my brother was in

851
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: the middle of the spring ball so I'm I'm at

852
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: the basketball camp and I'm talking to everybody. They're thinking

853
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: that we were thinking about offering you a basketball scholarship.

854
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: And I stayed the weekend with my brother just to

855
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: hang out with my brother. Hadn't seen him in a while,

856
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: and I ran into Brian Kelly, the coach of Notre Dame,

857
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: who at the time was headball coach over at Cincinnati.

858
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: He looked at me, sized me up real quick and

859
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: was like, well, do you play football? And I was like, yeah, man,

860
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm a quarterback. You know, I'm home over here and thinking,

861
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: so we're interested in me. I'm so he comes over.

862
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I had him a film, I had him a CD

863
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: a DVD of my highlights, and by the end of

864
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: the weekend, I had a dual scholarship football basketball scholarship

865
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: from the University of Cincinnati. So I actually went down

866
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: there to play both sports. But the basketball, like I said,

867
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: the handles, it just didn't It didn't work out for me.

868
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: So I ended up making the transition for did you

869
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: know that? Did you think you were gonna play quarterback

870
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati or did he tell you you were going

871
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: to move to a different position. He told me he

872
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: was gonna give me the opportunity to play qv and

873
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: I remember it like it was yesterday. Man. I remember

874
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: going out there the first day a trainee camp, right

875
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: before the season started, my sophomore year, my rest year,

876
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: freshman year, my second year in the league, I mean

877
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: my college, my rest year year. I didn't do anything

878
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: but just sit around. That's when I told you I

879
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: kind of game that good way day. But I came

880
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: in my second year and the first day he took me,

881
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: took me away from all the other players, and Coach

882
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: Kelly was just sitting there working with my drop, my

883
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: three step drop, the one step out of the gun,

884
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: little things, asking me if I knew the plays here

885
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: and there, if I knew how to read coverages. And

886
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: I felt like I gave him all the right answers

887
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: and he gave me an opportunity to play quarterback. He

888
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: actually put me in at a wildcat position and had

889
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: a few different plays off of it. But knew that

890
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for mentally to be able to take

891
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: over this entire offense. I just I was too mature.

892
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: But he could put me in there and I could

893
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: run a little something and uh and do some stuff

894
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: off at instincts. But I definitely went down there with

895
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: the intentions of playing both both sports and being a quarterback,

896
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: and uh, basketball never happened and football ended up. I

897
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: slowly transitioned into the tight end room, where I found

898
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: out that I definitely belonged. So so, how how nice

899
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: was your your game in high school? Your quarterback game

900
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: in high school? I'm not gonna lie I was. I

901
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: was a pretty selfish kid in high school. Man, I

902
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: was somebody. I was out there just trying to sling

903
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: and get the girls and fun. I have some fun

904
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: out there on the field with the guys. I always

905
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: felt that, you know, I could get five yards, so

906
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: it hitch hitch was out of my mind. I'm not

907
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: throwing a hitch man he get five yards on the

908
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: ground I was. I was much more comfortable with the

909
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: ball in my hands and running it. The coaches hated

910
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: me for it, But at the same time, like I said,

911
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: I was just a little immature and wasn't ready for it,

912
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: but I had I had some success. Man, I'm looking

913
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: at Ohio. You look at the NBA players Lebron James,

914
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, Oakley, Ron Harper, c J. McCollum, John Halcheck,

915
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: Nate Thurman, Terry Road, jar Earl Borkins. And then you

916
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: look at your your NFL players Charles Woodson, Robinsburger, Starback,

917
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: Chris Carter, James has And Luke Keakley, Levy Yard, Paige

918
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: Jack Lambert, Bruhage. Baby. You know, like when it's all

919
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: said and done, when they start mentioning like NFL and Ohio,

920
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is gonna be on this list, So it is. Jason, Yeah,

921
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: I'll be to bro y'all. Y'all, y'all got nice little

922
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: little set up here. Oh man, it's uh, it's it's

923
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: definitely prideful, you know what I mean. Let alone be

924
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: in from the Midwest of you. I feel like a

925
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: lot of Midwest cities have that have that blue collar

926
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: prideful mentality of where they come from. Growing up in

927
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: a sports town like Cleveland and just a sports state

928
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: like Ohio. How much pride they have in football alone? Yeah,

929
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: my father, my grandfather played football. My uncle played football.

930
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Uncle ended up playing at Purdue. Knowing all of that

931
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: no one was in my bloodline, and knowing where I

932
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: came from and the history and the tradition and the prestige,

933
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: it just fuels you mentally to want to go out

934
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: there and have success. And with that, I mean, you

935
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: just try and find ways to make yourself better and

936
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: to go out there and find wins man. But I'm

937
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: definitely pride and prideful and proud to be from northeast Ohio. Man.

938
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: You mentioned about how playing with your brother at the

939
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati and he possibly saved your career. You

940
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: had gotten into some trouble. I think, if I'm not mistaken,

941
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: he had already gone. You had gotten kicked off the team,

942
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: and he comes back and he asked the coach to

943
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: put you back on the team. And then your senior

944
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: year you catch forty five passes, seven hundred and twenty

945
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: two yards, eight touchdowns, First team All Big East. But

946
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: the previous two seasons you had two touchdowns one hundred

947
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: and fifty three yards. Why were you able to take

948
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: off your senior year? What? What? What clicked? What? What?

949
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: What was different? Like? I so so the process the

950
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: timeline of events was my my sophomore year, I had

951
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: the Wildcare. My second year in college, I had the Wildcare,

952
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: which was ended up being my retro freshman year. And

953
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: then that next year I got kicked off the team.

954
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: When I when I got kicked off the team. That

955
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: year was my brother's senior year, and he, I mean,

956
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: the entire offseason, he was begging the coaches to give

957
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: me another chance and set a list of things that

958
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: I had to accomplish to be able to bring the

959
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: benefit of playing football game at the University of Cincinnati

960
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: or appreciate the opportunity of playing football again at the

961
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati. And I'm forever thankful for that conversation.

962
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it took a lot of a lot of

963
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: guts for him to be able to go in there

964
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: and put his name on the line for myself knowing that,

965
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: you know, I threw this scholarship away and down the

966
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: drain like it didn't mean nothing to and and it was.

967
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: It was a very it was. It was a moment

968
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: where I to grow up. I had to grow up

969
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: and become a man or a man of my own mistakes,

970
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: because up to that point it was always old. Yeah,

971
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: I could get away with this, I could get away

972
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: with that. Well, like my father says, the bullshit always

973
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: catches up. Excuse my language, but bullshit always gonna catch up.

974
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: If you're out here doing the wrong things, it's gonna

975
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: catch up to you, just because that's just not how

976
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: you live. And I'm, like I said, I'm always here

977
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: for the fun. So I'm a very passionate guy, and

978
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: I want to do the right things, fund just sometimes

979
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: over road that as at a young age. And to

980
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: have him put his his name on the line for

981
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: me and to give the coaches enough, you know, confidence

982
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: that I was going to be able to be that

983
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: guy for them. I wasn't able to, you know, step

984
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: into a locker room be a leader. It still took

985
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, a process and a group of men to

986
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: help me and guide me in the right direction. I'm

987
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: just thankful for everybody, even versus Cincinnati, that not only

988
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: gave me that chance, but guided me in the right

989
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: You know, my brothers at the forefront. It's funny Andy

990
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: Reid drafted your brother at Philly. He gets terminated, he

991
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: goes to Kansas City, he turns and drafted and draft

992
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: you now there's a story. I don't know how true

993
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: it is. You can confirm or deny this that after

994
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: Andy talked to you, he asked to speak to your

995
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: brother and asked, is he go mess this up? The truth?

996
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: And as the guy, honest truth man, when I tell you,

997
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: I had never been more excited. It was. It was

998
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: like a roller coaster of a call and all and

999
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: it all happened within like fifteen seconds. I get the call,

1000
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: it's a Missouri number. I'm thinking, I'm going to Saint Louis,

1001
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: shout out the Jeff Fish and everybody over there. But

1002
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: I did not want to go to Saint Louis. Did

1003
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: not had the recipe for success and U and actually

1004
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: what I didn't know is that the Chiefs didn't have

1005
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: that recipe for success either. Actually had a worship which

1006
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: was two and fourteen the year before. So Andy Reid

1007
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: comes in drafts me with his set and pick and

1008
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: uh and I answered the phone thing and it's it's

1009
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: gonna be Saint Louis. He answers the phone, and hey,

1010
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: how are you doing this this, Travis? I said yes,

1011
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: He said, this is Andy Reid with the Kansas City

1012
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs and I'm talking about my Whoa's baby. I'm ready

1013
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: to rock and roll. You know what I mean. I

1014
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: got one of the greatest coaches ever do this. I'm

1015
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: ready to go. Man. He immediately takes it right back

1016
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: to the floor. Listen, man, this is this is serious.

1017
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: This is no no goofing around. It was a whole

1018
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: lot of words that I would rather than not I repeat.

1019
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: He basically said, do not screw this up. This is

1020
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: a serious opportunity. And he was asking me if I

1021
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: was gonna mess it up, and they said, all right,

1022
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: put your brother on the phone. I was like, how

1023
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: did he know my brother was right here? I didn't

1024
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: he already knows so and sure enough, you used to

1025
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: see my brother get on the phone. I'm staring at

1026
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: my brother like you gonna say you know what I mean.

1027
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I hope he doesn't say anything bad,

1028
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: and he's just like, yeah, nope, nope, I got you.

1029
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: I got your nose. Almost like he was asking my

1030
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: brother to make sure that I knew what I was

1031
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: getting myself into. Reiterated, and at the end of the day,

1032
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: I think it was something he was he was just

1033
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: telling him, like, I need you to make sure that

1034
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: this dude, does not screw this up, because I will

1035
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: kick both of your ass. The year you were drafted,

1036
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: Tyler Iford went in the first round, the twenty first

1037
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: pick to Cincinnati. Zacht Ergs went second, thirty fifth pick

1038
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: to Philly. Gavin Escobar forty seven to the Cowboy Advanced

1039
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: McDonald second round, fifty fifth pick to the San Francisco

1040
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. What's going through your mind? You're like,

1041
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm better than all them cats, and I'm gonna show you.

1042
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: I just it just because that's how I was draft

1043
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: all the receivers that went before me. I'm like, because

1044
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: I went to the bowl games. I don't know if you,

1045
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: but I went to the Blue Gray game, went to

1046
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: the East West Shrine game. I'm watching these guys and

1047
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: I remember calling my brother said, I mean, I'm betting

1048
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: all these cats, and I'll see him going up the

1049
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: board before me. I'm like, hold on, wait a minute,

1050
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: what did I miss? Man? I'll tell you what. You

1051
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: have to have that mentality. You have to have that

1052
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: confidence within yourself to know that you can go out

1053
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: there and have success no matter where you are, no

1054
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: matter who's in front of you. And uh, and that's

1055
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: just that's just the competitive of my state that I've

1056
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: than I've always had. But what it really did was

1057
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: it made me dislike the guys that that that were

1058
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: taking in front of me. I mean that great guy,

1059
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: unbelievable guy. We've ended up becoming your friends over the years, Tyler,

1060
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: I've heard the exact same way. But what it made

1061
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: me do was it made me, you know, gain this

1062
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: competitiveness to to every single day, uh kind of I

1063
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: don't know, mentally be crazy enough to to outperform somebody

1064
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: that you don't even know what they're doing. Right day,

1065
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: I told myself, I'm gonna work harder than every tight

1066
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: end in the in this in this league. I didn't

1067
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: know what Gronk was doing, I didn't know what Urt

1068
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: was doing, I didn't know what anybody else was doing.

1069
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: All I could do was control myself and my process

1070
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: and what I was doing and uh and have confidence

1071
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: that I was going to keep getting better in that

1072
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: and man, throughout the years, it's been awesome to know

1073
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: all those guys. Bas McDonald another guy that I absolutely

1074
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: love and have a tremendous respect for. Gavin Escobar ended

1075
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: up coming and playing for the Chiefs for a little bit.

1076
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: I what it did for me was initially start the

1077
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: competitive edge to be the greatest and at least try

1078
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: to be the greatest meet and uh, and that's where

1079
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: it started. Man, What was the first thing you purchased

1080
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: with some of the money from your rookie contract man?

1081
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: You want to I spent it all, Shannon, I should

1082
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: have been on the thirty for thirty broke the way

1083
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: that all the young guys in the league, all the

1084
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: guys that I had, have the opportunity to to to,

1085
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, get that big first check in from the NFL.

1086
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: Save it man, find a financial advisor that you trusted,

1087
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: that that's going to do right with your money, because

1088
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: I would searching around for card deals after my first year,

1089
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: trying to you know, just pay rent exactly. So one

1090
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: of the first things I bought was I'm a big

1091
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: Sneaker fan. So and the Marty mcflies man the Back

1092
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: to the Future and the Nike airbags. Where were the

1093
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: first purchase of Kicks that I got. I knew I

1094
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: wanted them ever since I saw them self tie themselves

1095
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: on McFly's feed. And then on top of that, I

1096
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: always wanted a roley Man, So I went out and

1097
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: got myself a rolling from a from a Kansas City

1098
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: jewelry shop. Man, you got to get the rolling. When

1099
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: I was walking, I was walking in this empty apartment

1100
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: with some Marty mcflies on the rolex. Man, I felt

1101
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: like I was the coolest guy in the world. Man,

1102
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: How difficult was the transition? Because when I try to

1103
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: tell people about Okay, look, when you were in college,

1104
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: you're basically playing for room in books, you got study hall.

1105
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: When you go to NFL is a job. You're playing

1106
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: for mortgages, you're playing for kids future, and to college

1107
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: to witch you, it's a whole different ball game. Ain't

1108
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: nobody gonna say go to study hall. Ain't nobody waking

1109
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: you're brought up to go to class. You got to

1110
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 1: be a professional man. And that's why I was saying,

1111
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: you gotta find that that routine is success. What is

1112
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: your routine in college? For me, it was the coaches

1113
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: had workouts early at eight am, We had class from

1114
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: nine to noon, and then we had practice at one

1115
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 1: That is a structured routine. Yes, you have to give

1116
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: you success that what you're doing in the weight room

1117
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: is is a structured routine for you to get bigger

1118
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: and stronger, so you can have that success well in

1119
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: the league, you don't. You don't necessarily have that. And

1120
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: you need you need to be a professional. And and

1121
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: and like I was saying, you have to own your craft.

1122
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: You have to own who you are. And that has

1123
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: grown so much throughout my career. My first couple of

1124
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: years it was just let me just show up and

1125
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: go to work, you know, and then through throughout my

1126
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: my years, I was starting to feel a little bit

1127
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: more soreness. So what do I do for that? How

1128
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: am I? How am I eating? How am I am

1129
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: I doing certain things outside of the facility? Or does

1130
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: my they end as soon as that last meeting hits.

1131
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: And what it did for me was it created a

1132
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: lifestyle that I could lean on in a routine that

1133
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: I could lean on to not only stay on the field,

1134
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: but keep having the success that I was having on

1135
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: the field. There's nothing like a plan and to see

1136
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: that plan come to fruition. There's nothing like training the

1137
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: way I eat, the way I train, the way I

1138
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: do certain things, and to see that playoff on the field.

1139
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: Because once you see it's just like anything. Once you

1140
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: see a little success and you're like, Wow, that's why

1141
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm having a success. You keep that going and you

1142
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: it's hard to ever get away from that. Oh yeah.

1143
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: And what it does is it just fuels you to

1144
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: be able to nitpick it. Now it's everything's details now.

1145
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: Now it's how many cards am I taking in? How many?

1146
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: Oh do you want to put a tracker in my past?

1147
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: How many? How many miles am I running? So I

1148
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: can know what type of recovery that I need, how

1149
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: much sleep I need, the in terms of hydration, and

1150
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: you can start to nitpick to the point to really

1151
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: see it becomes an obsession exactly. You get obsessed with

1152
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: the process. That's where everybody talks about. Enjoy the process,

1153
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: Enjoy the journey. That's the journey right there, seeing seeing

1154
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: your your scheduled events turn into success and and and

1155
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: just you know, thriving that, know that, know that you

1156
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: can be accountable for the guys next to you by

1157
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: doing this. Man, how much time do you think you

1158
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: put it into training, your nutrition, your phisiol things of that.

1159
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: How much time do you think you putting in the

1160
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: off season? And how much time do you think you

1161
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: do put in during the course of a week? Man,

1162
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, when I tell you it's it's at least

1163
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: in the off season at least two hours two hours

1164
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: out of the five day, So Monday through Friday, you're

1165
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: going two hours every single day of at least spending

1166
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: time on muscle and body and development. So whether that's

1167
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: you want to take that to the skill aspect or

1168
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: you want to mentally get after it, depending on you know,

1169
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: whether it's a recovery day or whatnot. Taking that much

1170
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: time out of a day to just own in and

1171
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: put complete focus on your craft and on your body

1172
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: can do wonders for you. And on top of that

1173
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: throughout the week. I mean, I couldn't tell you how

1174
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: much I actually because I'm a big visual guy. I

1175
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: like to visualize. I like to fantasize about making plays

1176
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: out on the football field. So I'm never in a

1177
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: moment on the football field where i haven't thought about

1178
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: some type of way to instinctually have success, because that's

1179
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: what that's the That's the biggest thing from going from

1180
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: my rookie year to my third fourth, fifth year in

1181
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: the league is I understood more of what was going

1182
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: on around me, but I was able to play faster.

1183
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: My mind wasn't tricking my feet up. So being able

1184
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: to put that into play with the athleticism that you

1185
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: trained for all season long or all off season. It's

1186
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's needed. It's so much needed. You

1187
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: hear about all these guys putting in a half a

1188
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: million to a million dollars and just recovery to get

1189
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: that blood flows circulating into get these muscles loosened up.

1190
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not only is it injury prevention, which

1191
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: which is keeping you on the field or on the court,

1192
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: but it's also making you that much more efficient when

1193
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: you are out there. Right. And you can't say enough

1194
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: about what it means to recover in terms of rehab

1195
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: and prehab. And I've taken into a whole other level

1196
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: these past couple of years, man, and it's really paying

1197
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: off on me. What was that first Pro Bowl experience

1198
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: like to get that call and says Travis Kelsey, you

1199
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: have been selected to the Pro Bowl? What was that

1200
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: feeling like? Man? When I tell you is the coolest

1201
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: because I had just went to the year before, I

1202
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: had just went to Scottsdale, Arizona, when the Pro Bowl

1203
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl was in Scottsdale or in Arizona and

1204
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: U and I watched my brother playing his first Pro Bowl,

1205
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: and I saw my family's excitement during the game. I

1206
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: had on his practice jersey, and I was I was

1207
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: out there being a fanboy all over again. And to

1208
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: be able to see my family's excitement that I was

1209
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: out there, that that my brother was out there with

1210
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: all the stars, all the guys are dancing in the

1211
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: end zone, all the guys that you know, the names,

1212
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: the top names in the National Football League. To see

1213
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: the smiles on their face too, you know, oh, there

1214
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: he goes, there he goes. That's that's everything. That's everything

1215
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: I ever needed in life to be able to give

1216
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: me motivation, because making my parents proud of of who

1217
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: I am has always been the number one goal for me,

1218
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: knowing how how fortunate I was as a kid and

1219
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: how much they gave me as a kid. Man. And

1220
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: that first Pro Bowl in Hawaii, man, I tell you

1221
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: it is like nothing else. Man. Not only was it

1222
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: my first Pro Bowl, but I got to sign my

1223
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: first extension uh in Hawaii on that day, on that week,

1224
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: and man, it was that my family was out there

1225
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: with me, and it had a few, uh few my

1226
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: ties cos the waves come in. It was a beautiful scene. Man,

1227
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: first a rookie, you gotta buy them my time. Bro.

1228
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: I know they hit you up real hopefully when you

1229
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: went to why they didn't get you a tray? What's

1230
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: your room number? You get the room number and you

1231
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: get that bill. They're like, man, they had got me.

1232
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: Listen this time. I was ready for it all and

1233
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: I was ready to take the hit. Man. I'll tell you,

1234
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: I'll last year you had. You guys had a miraculous

1235
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: run because I know one had ever done this what

1236
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: you guys did to fall behind by double digits and

1237
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: then turn around and win every game by double digits

1238
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: on your way to the Super Bowl. So let's start

1239
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: first with the Houston Texans. You fall behind twenty four nothing.

1240
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: What's going through your mind on the sidelines when you

1241
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: when they scored that kick that field goal to go

1242
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: up twenty twenty four to nothing. What's going through your mind? Well,

1243
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: the first thing that was going through our mind was

1244
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: initially frustration. Right, you start to ask yourself why why

1245
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: is this happening? Why is this happening? They're like, oh, man,

1246
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: it must be something out of our control, Like you mean,

1247
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: like something like the football guys just got it against us.

1248
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: Man we did something we didn't we ain't living right

1249
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: or something. And then you and then you you face reality.

1250
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: Coaches come together, we come together as a collective group,

1251
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: and everything we were doing was self inflicting right penalties.

1252
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: It was miss mister signments, it was dropping drop passes exactly.

1253
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: It was stuff that we could control. And once we

1254
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: found out and and kind of got regrouped by path

1255
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: by coach Eric the enemy, everybody kind of just locked

1256
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: in and from there we showed our personalities. Coach Read

1257
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: dialed up the right stuff for us to be able

1258
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: to march down the field. And an unstoppable performance by

1259
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: by Patrick Mahomes and what he did to surge us

1260
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: back into into that game and then just take us

1261
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: into a blowout the next game. You're Chennessee Titans. They

1262
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: were the hottest team in the playoffs. They had gone

1263
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: on the road beating the New England Patriots and for

1264
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, broken up the dynasty. They go

1265
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: to Baltimore and beat the unanimous m VP. So they're

1266
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: coming in red hot. They got Derek Henry who's running

1267
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: over everybody. You fall behind ten nothing and you like,

1268
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: here we go again. I'll tell you what, it was

1269
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: a little bit different of a feeling. I honestly never

1270
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: never felt frustrated in the Tennessee game. It was never

1271
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: it was never a down moment in the Tennessee Game.

1272
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: I always had confidence that we were just right there.

1273
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: You know, we might not have been in the lead,

1274
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: but I still felt like, you know, we had a

1275
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: good grasp of the position that we were in right

1276
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: And all it took was a couple of plays right

1277
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: before half Pat went out there and had his famous

1278
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: you know he has he moved on the line, hit

1279
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: this unathletic spin on somebody, and just find his way

1280
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: into the end zone. He had that moment, and then

1281
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: the momentum just kind of just takes over and and

1282
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: it's all about the greatness that one five is and

1283
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: just following his lead man, because in those moments, you

1284
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: need you need your quarterback to be great. Now you're

1285
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: on the biggest stage. You can't ask for anything more

1286
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: than this. You're here. A couple of years earlier, you

1287
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: witness your brother go to the super Bowl, they win it,

1288
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: and you're like, we're here and you're down ten starting

1289
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: to fourth what's going through your mind. I'm not gonna lie.

1290
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,919
Speaker 1: That's when it get a little frustrating. You know you're going,

1291
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: you're going to the fourth and you know you just

1292
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: can't get it going. Whether it's the angle in which

1293
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: guys are coming out of routes, or you know, it's

1294
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: it's just minimal stuff that we just we haven't been

1295
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: hitting on, whether it's slammed a flat route, little stuff

1296
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: like that, getting one extra guy blocked in the in

1297
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: the run game. It started to get just a little

1298
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: bit frustrating, and you started to see a lot of

1299
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: a lot of your hopes and a lot of your

1300
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: dreams started to slip out of your grass. And all

1301
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: I can say is that you know the leaders and

1302
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: the and the and the coaches in this locker room,

1303
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: when adversity hits, it's almost as if we we turn

1304
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: we flip a switch and uh and and it stayed

1305
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: true ever and you know those first couple of playoff games,

1306
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: and it's really I think it's it dates back to

1307
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots AFC Championship game the year before. Yes, where

1308
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: we know we have that capability to turn this thing on,

1309
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: lock in and play our best football win need you

1310
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Tom Brady got us that day.

1311
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: He was a he had the ball the last time

1312
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: and he was the one that had the ball in

1313
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: hot and scored his touchdown. He got us that day.

1314
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: But we knew that we belong, you know. And and

1315
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: and what that did for is mentally we had to

1316
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: switch to where no matter what point in time, it is,

1317
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: no matter how much doubt you got, it's time to go.

1318
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: We need to lock in and be ourselves. And uh,

1319
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: and I mean we just have great leadership starts up

1320
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: top and it just trickles down from coach Andy Reid

1321
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: all the way down to the offensive defensive coaches to

1322
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: the offensive defensive captains and and it's a it's definitely

1323
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: the pleasure to be in and it's something something special.

1324
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: A part of Clark goes down to zero SUP bowls

1325
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: over confetti starts to fall down on the field. What's

1326
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: going through Kelsey's mind? Wait? Man, I could still picture

1327
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: it because I don't know if you've been down to

1328
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: Miami's new new stadium, man, but this got the perfect

1329
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: opening to make you feel like you're you're in the heavenue. Man.

1330
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: When that coffetti's flying down I just ucked up. I

1331
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: tapped coach b enemy like, Man, look at that, it

1332
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: looks like stars were flying out of the sky. Man.

1333
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: It was just to reach the mountaintop the way we

1334
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: did together, you know. And you can you can say

1335
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: it was one guy because type of Mahomes played his

1336
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: tail off the entire playoffs and led us to all

1337
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: those victories. But we did it as a as a

1338
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: collective group. And he'll even tell you that, man. And

1339
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: it was just it was so much fun. And I

1340
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: cherished those memories with every single one of those guys

1341
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: on the team. Man, it had been fifty years since

1342
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: you guys had won the Super Bowl. How special was

1343
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: it to win for Kansas City? And what was it

1344
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: like going through that parade and seeing all that red

1345
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: and all those fans like we brought the we brought

1346
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: the Lombardy back to Kansas City. You want to talk,

1347
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it, you know it. Just like

1348
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,479
Speaker 1: everybody else over there in Bronco Country, Kans City fans

1349
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: are gonna show up, man. Yes, they're gonna get loud,

1350
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: and they're gonna give give you all the passion that

1351
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: they got. And I'm so fortunate to not only land

1352
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: to this organization, but to be here in this city,

1353
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: I think it embodies a lot of the values that

1354
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: I have in life, which is very prideful where I

1355
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: come from, very blue collar and work your tail off

1356
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: for what you what you work your tail off for

1357
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: what you want in this world and in Kansas City

1358
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: is every bit of that, man, And I would I'm

1359
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm still prideful to you know, keep

1360
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: bringing the success and the rings back to Kansas City,

1361
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: knowing that they put their all every single Sunday that

1362
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: we go out there. Man, what do you think has

1363
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: been the most difficult part about repeating patience getting through

1364
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: the season to get to to where we are now.

1365
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes you uh, I feel like coming into it, all

1366
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: you can think about is the playoffs all over again.

1367
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna make the playoffs. Mentally,

1368
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: you say that to yourself, we're gonna make the playoffs.

1369
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: We have a great group, we got Patrick mahone's the

1370
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: best player in the National Football League. Leading is we're

1371
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna make the playoffs. Mentally, being able to

1372
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: lock in every single week so that dream that that

1373
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: that situation happens that's been the hardest thing because you

1374
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: wanted to fast forward. Man. You do you want you

1375
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: want all the all these games to take care of themselves.

1376
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: You you you handle business and the division, you handle

1377
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: business to get the number one seed, but you really

1378
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: want to get back to this point right here, right

1379
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs, to be able to go through that journey

1380
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: that you know, this is the last dance. It's it's

1381
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: either winner going right. That's been probably the most difficult,

1382
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: difficult part. And uh and we're here now, so and

1383
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: so now that now we got all that over with,

1384
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: I could just go out here and really play for

1385
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: the for for another super Bowl man. And uh and

1386
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: well I'm a week I'm a week early. We still

1387
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: gotta go out here and take care of the charges.

1388
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: But it's uh. I would that would definitely say just

1389
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: being patient and not letting complacencies set in, uh while

1390
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: while we're kind of, you know, gearing up for the playoffs.

1391
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: And that's what my question was, how have you been

1392
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: able to avoid complacency? I think leadership, man, I would say,

1393
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, call me silly, but I think leadership was

1394
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: what they had in Seattle when they when they went

1395
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: back to back leadership is what they have in New

1396
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: England for all those years Kansas City, we have great

1397
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: leaders We have guys that it matters when when we

1398
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: come into the building to have the accountability to do

1399
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: our job the guy next to us. And when you

1400
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: have guys like that every single day that love to

1401
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: come in to work, love what they do, enjoy the

1402
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: process of getting better at football, and enjoy the competitiveness

1403
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: and don't get complacent with that. That's that's special. And

1404
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: when you know you have that, it just gears it up.

1405
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: It turns it up even more. Like you said, you

1406
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: get obsessed with it. It kind of loses out of

1407
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: you every single day you wake up and it's contagious.

1408
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for us is that going

1409
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: back to back. I remember Mike told us to start

1410
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: when we were starting the we won in ninety seven,

1411
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 1: beat the Packers, and they were coming back to try

1412
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: to repeat. And I remember Mike's very first meeting. He

1413
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: told us there's been a lot of teams that won

1414
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: one in a row. He said, if you want to

1415
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: be special, repeat and and you said, we're gonna take

1416
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: it one week at a time. And what we did

1417
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: the way we approached the tracks that he was just

1418
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: putting the game up that we were playing that week.

1419
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: We didn't know who the next game was, and then

1420
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: the next week, and then the next week, and then

1421
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: once we got there, you know, we ended the season

1422
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 1: fourteen too, and it was like, Okay, let's go win

1423
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, and it was about we didn't care

1424
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: about who got the credit, because there's gonna be enough

1425
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: of the cake to go around that everybody's gonna get

1426
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: a piece. Now, clearly, your piece is not gonna be

1427
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: as big as is my homes or it's not gonna

1428
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 1: be the guy's not gonna be as big as yours

1429
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: or Tyreek and some of the other guys. But you

1430
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: will get a piece. You'll get a slice of the

1431
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: cake as long as you play your part. Everybody in

1432
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: the part, whether it's special teams, whether it's offense, defense,

1433
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: the holder, everybody has a role to play. Nobody rolled

1434
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: is more important. Everybody rolled can up end this card.

1435
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: And so that's the way we approached it. And I'm

1436
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: talking to you and it sounds like, Man, I've never

1437
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: had this conversation with him before, and he's talking like

1438
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: the very things that we said as a team is

1439
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: that let's handle a business game, the game. Let's get

1440
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: out of this season healthy. Now let's go win another

1441
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: super Bowl without a doubt. And that's the makeup of

1442
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 1: a championship team is when you have the guys in place,

1443
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, that understand their role, that understand their their

1444
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: success within this this this game, it just makes everything

1445
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: goes out much smoother. And I was saying in terms

1446
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: of leadership, what leadership is this coach Reid does an

1447
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 1: unbelievable job of trying to get everybody involved. He tries

1448
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: to make sure that everybody gets a piece of that

1449
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: pie on the offensive side. Yeah right, And what that

1450
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: does is it helps everybody else out And when you

1451
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: have to cover all five, you know, skill players out

1452
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: out there on the field, that makes it. That makes

1453
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: my job because you're when Tyreek takes two guys and

1454
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: I know, I'm I'm singled up or Tyreek are both

1455
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: getting double with a guy like Sammy Watkins or Mikole

1456
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: Hardman or DeMarcus Robinson are singled up, or we got

1457
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, lady on bail on a on a linebacker.

1458
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: You know, these mismatches start to start to become more

1459
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: of an issue for defenses when you try to, you know,

1460
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: alter your defense towards one guy, and Coach Reid understands that,

1461
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: he understands what defenses are gonna try and do. And

1462
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: it just makes this this machine, this offensive machine, just

1463
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: that much better. But like like we said, man, it

1464
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: just goes to the leadership that you got in that

1465
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: building and in that locker room to make sure that

1466
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: everybody's doing their job and and you know, not only that,

1467
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: but excited about doing their job. Yeah, I think it doesn't.

1468
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: I think it's it does does a great service, I think,

1469
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: and it does a great job. And Patrick does a

1470
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 1: great job of guys on the field don't always feel

1471
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: like they're decoys because they didn't give a moment as

1472
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: you meant mentioned Robinson, he caught the game winner last week.

1473
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: It might be him, It might be hard man, It

1474
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 1: might be saying me, you know you and tire, you

1475
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: guys are gonna get you go get your targets. But

1476
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 1: it's these other guys that sometimes they don't get a

1477
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: catch in the game then all of a sudden, but

1478
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: they still know they're running the busting their busts knowing

1479
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: but hey, this still might be my moment he might

1480
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 1: put it up through. So hey, I can't fall asleep

1481
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: on this route. Oh yeah, And that's the fun about

1482
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: playing in this offense, man, One five is gonna find

1483
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: you if you're open, and then we just we just

1484
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: try to take advantage of all those opportunities. Man, we

1485
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 1: got unbelievable, unbelievable men in this locker room. Man, I

1486
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: would ask you something to happen in week five, the

1487
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: Raiders beat you guys in Kansas City. Man, did you

1488
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: know that they took a big three a lap around

1489
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: Arrowhead a couple of times? Or when did you find

1490
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: out about it? I found out in the media, as

1491
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: everybody else did. And then when we played them later

1492
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: on in the season, everybody made sure that we knew

1493
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: about it. You know. Good for them, man, good for them.

1494
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: But that's what they feel like they got to do

1495
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: after a win to you know, we beat the we

1496
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: beat the top dogs. You know, do your thing, man,

1497
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: But excuse me, I think it's uh, you know, to

1498
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: take y'all when you guys beat them in Vegas did

1499
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: and they take y'all to drive down the strip? He said,

1500
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: it is himself. Man, that's that's not our gig man.

1501
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: We don't do that kind of stuff. We just take

1502
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: we're trying to take care of business on the field, man,

1503
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 1: and just leave it right there. I think it was

1504
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: it was a lot of them. And I've be the

1505
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: little brother in my entire life, so I understand. I

1506
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: think it was a lot of the little brother beating

1507
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: beating the beating the big brother and uh and feeling

1508
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: feeling pretty bold about it. But we all knew what

1509
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: was what was real and that I feel like at

1510
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: least I threw away the game for us, and that loss.

1511
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: If if we don't lose another one from here on out,

1512
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: which we don't plan on, that loss is gonna it's

1513
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: gonna hold some weight for me for a long long time.

1514
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: Are you superstitious? I would. I would say that I'm not,

1515
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: But I do believe that there is a little bit

1516
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: of carmon and some things that I'm doing. So so,

1517
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, do you eat the same pregame meal?

1518
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: Do you? I mean, do you drive the same way

1519
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: to practice? What do you get the same room at

1520
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: the hotel night before game? What are some of the

1521
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: things that you would do? I would I wouldn't take

1522
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: it to that extent because pregame meal is is the

1523
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: same every single time when we're whenever we're on the road,

1524
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: I'm always eating French thows before a game. So I mean,

1525
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: I guess that's about friends, tolds, oat meal and egg whites.

1526
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: No serum. See I need say, I need that sweet,

1527
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: I need that kid. That the light I would see,

1528
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm superstitious. I'm traft. I was superstitious, Like if I

1529
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: went somewhere, like if I go to Kansas City, because

1530
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay at the same hotel for the most part.

1531
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: Say if I had a good game, I'm gonna stay

1532
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: in the same room. I got the same we're at home.

1533
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm standing in the same room, I'm driving the same

1534
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: way to the stadium. I'm going in front of the elevator.

1535
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna press the button and I gotta stand in

1536
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: front of the elevator door, which I think is gonna

1537
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: open first. And then was that if I get that

1538
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: thing right on the first track, somebody in trouble trail

1539
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: trap about to get a note hung on him. I hear,

1540
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: I hear, I would say, I'm superstitious and I gotta

1541
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: live right, man, If I'm not living right. I know,

1542
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be a rough day for me,

1543
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: so I just make sure that I'm living right throughout

1544
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 1: the week so I can feel comfortable going into a game.

1545
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: But in terms of game day having little stuff like that,

1546
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: for me, it was I started off doing that one

1547
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: I was younger in the in the NFL, and if

1548
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: one thing went wrong, it would just be like I

1549
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, whether it was you know, I forgot my

1550
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: special undershirt that I was gonna wear out for pregame

1551
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: or something like that, I was just like, man, it just,

1552
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, it makes you feel out of whack. It

1553
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: makes you feel like you've got to do something else

1554
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: to make up for that, or you know, it just

1555
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: doesn't It's not the same routine, so obviously I'm not

1556
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: gonna have the same success. Other things started playing in

1557
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: my mind and I just become a mental midget out there. Man,

1558
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: I screw everything up. What what makes and you read

1559
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: an offensive genius? Man? I would I would say, I

1560
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: would say this creativity, But it goes more than just

1561
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: the creativity. It's it's the work that he puts in

1562
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: to understand what other defenses are doing so that he

1563
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: can have the creativity in place, if that makes sense.

1564
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 1: So his his knowledge of another team's defense, his understanding

1565
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: of what they're doing, what they're trying to take away,

1566
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: how they're leveraging guys, his understanding of that allows him

1567
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: to be creative in the routes that we're running and

1568
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: allows us to have success in the routes that we're running.

1569
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: And it sets us up for success. It puts us

1570
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: in positions to where it enhances my skill set. And

1571
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: for an offensive guy, offensive coach to be able to always,

1572
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: you know, put their their players in a position to

1573
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: have that success or to have the upper hand. That's

1574
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: what more can you ask for as a player, that

1575
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: opportunity right there. Man, demand to go against somebody that

1576
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: I have had success you know doing this. You know

1577
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: you get an outside leverage, man, Well, let's run deep cross.

1578
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: I get a guy that's head up, Let's run a

1579
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: fake deep cross and come back out, sail out whatever

1580
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 1: whatever it is that the defense is doing. Coach Reid

1581
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: always has an answer. And uh. And as a player, man,

1582
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: as long as you know how to set these rounds

1583
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: up and and and play with that leverage, play with

1584
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: the scheme, man, you can you can have all the

1585
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 1: success in the world. Where did this swag come from?

1586
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: We don't normally see guys like yourself. It's swag delicious

1587
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 1: that you guys are. I see the LV roll, I

1588
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: see the DR I see the Greg Lord, I see all.

1589
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, hold on, bro, what what's what's really going on?

1590
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? You just gotta enjoy it, man,

1591
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: I personally, I think it comes from Cleveland Heights are

1592
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: higher where I come from. Every day in my house,

1593
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: they don't drive like that in Cleveland Heights, Bro. And

1594
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: then you gotta try something the day you will be surprised.

1595
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 1: We got, we got, we got two different sides of

1596
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: the sky. Yeah, we got, we got we got the

1597
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: side that's that's predominantly. Well. We just have different social classes.

1598
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: So we have, you know, we have one social class

1599
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: where it's you know, two three million dollar houses and

1600
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: then other ones that we have you know, apartment of it.

1601
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: So it's you have both sides of the spectrum where

1602
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: I come from, and and so every day it was

1603
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was a fashion statement. And

1604
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: then I mean on top of that, you see a

1605
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,759
Speaker 1: nice car coming by, you know, everybody knows who's who's

1606
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: in that car and what it is, and you get

1607
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: excited for it. But uh, it's it's just always been

1608
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: in me to uh to appreciate that kind of stuff man,

1609
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: and have fun with it. It's never been that I

1610
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: that I've you know, I've focused on or anything like that.

1611
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: It's just kind of always just been the natural, Uh,

1612
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: just who I am, and it just who'ses out of me.

1613
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 1: A lot of people kind of throw the words swag

1614
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: into you know, what you're wearing, what you drive, and

1615
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Man, swagger is how you

1616
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: wear it, how you're driving, you know, and and and

1617
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: just to have that that that that that comfortable and

1618
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 1: confident you and no matter what you're doing. Man, that's

1619
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: the real swagger right there. Did you know? Like, Man,

1620
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: if I ever get me some cheese brom this, I'm

1621
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: a rocket. I'm a rocket like this? You know it? Man?

1622
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: You know I was never a chain down to your

1623
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: belly black kind of guy. You know what I mean? Right?

1624
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: Just keep it right here around the collar, right, And

1625
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: this is something nice and nice and subtle. Man. So

1626
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: are you? So you you're more of a clothes as

1627
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: opposed to a jewelry guy for the most part. Yeah,

1628
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. You gotta have your ice, man. Man. Yeah,

1629
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: you got a few people you don't need. You don't

1630
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: need ten pieces, Okay, you need one or two chains

1631
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: a watch. I'm good. I was telling my my friens.

1632
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: I like the subtle aspect of jewelry, you know, I mean,

1633
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: just just a little bit of shine here and there.

1634
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: I usually got my chain tough. But it says I

1635
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: was at club Shah. I thought, you know what I mean, Letter,

1636
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I appreciate you bring it out in

1637
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: the little spark. Spark a lot. I see that. I

1638
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: see that trap. Bro. I really appreciate the time. Man.

1639
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: I know you got a busy week coming up. Stay healthy,

1640
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: get out of this game healthy. If you play, good

1641
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: luck along the way, brother, I'll catch it down the road.

1642
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 1: But I want to really thank you for coming on today. Bro.

1643
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: This ain't the last time, big Gun. I appreciate you.

1644
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: All right, Well, he happy with the throw the wall,

1645
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: come back. I'll be right back in the club. Baby.

1646
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, bro, good look it all right, Nah, have

1647
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: a go with the nephew saying it unifest dog. Appreciate

1648
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: it all My life, the grounding, all my life, sacrifice,

1649
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: custle Bay, to price, want a slice, Got the broller

1650
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 1: dice to Sware all my life. I've been grinding all

1651
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: my life, all my life, the running, all my life, sacrifice,

1652
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: custle Bay, the price and want a slice, Got the

1653
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: broller dice to Sware all my life. I've been grinding

1654
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: all my life,