1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for the Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: Here we go. It is a Thursday. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: We're packed, Dan Hurley, Yukon coach, Dodger manager, Dave Roberts, 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Carlos Booser, whose son's going to be a top three 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: or four pick in the NBA Draft. Sweet sixteen starts tomorrow. 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: It's great to be here on a Thursday, live in Chicago. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: It's the Herd. 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: So Yankees have been unbalanced for years and they didn't 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: really do anything in the offseason. They added like a 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: number four, and a lot of good teams were upgrading, elevating, acquiring, 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: and the Yankees did. And if I would have told 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: you last night, opening up on the road, Aaron Judge 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: struck out four times, only Yankee not to reach base. 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: Logan Webb is pitching for the Giants, led the National 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: League in strikeous you just said uh oh. Yet they 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: rolled on the road nine singles, Eight different Yankees got hits, 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: all except Aaron Judge balance, they attacked Logan web and 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: no team is more home run dependent. Yankees scored fifty 27 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: percent of their runs on home runs. Tops in baseball. 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: They're unbalanced, nobody relies on the home run and their 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: very aerin Judge reliant. I mean, the Phillies have Bryce 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: Harper and the other stars, Dodgers have Otani and other stars. 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: They had Kyle Tucker, the Padres have Machado and other stars. 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: The Yankees are Aaron Judge reliant, and he didn't do 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: anything last night, and they're an unbalanced offense. And then 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: didn't any home runs last night. So this is I 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: know it's one of sixty two. Judge had a really 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: bad opener, but I mean last night it was singles, 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: it was good at bats. It was the bottom of 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: the lineup five through nine hitters hit four to twelve, 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: So it was what they don't normally do. They got 40 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: a bad night from Aaron Judge against a great pitcher, 41 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: Logan Webs, an all star, a roughed him up in 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: the second inning. Max Fried was home free and this 43 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: is this is I know it's one of sixty two, 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: but this is not what the Yankees do. They don't 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: always get good at bats, right, they don't. They don't 46 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: move guys along. They're not great old wass Situationally they 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: got good starting pitching. But last night they got great pitching. 48 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: A lot of singles, different guys bottom of the order. 49 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: That was a nice win. Balance is gonna win your trophies, 50 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: not winning home run titles. Here was Aaron Boone, a haff. 51 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: Obviously logan Web's one of the best. And to put 52 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: up a five spot there in the second with just 53 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 4: a lot of really good at bets, you know, I thought, 54 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: I thought we pressured him. Even in the first he 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: went one, two, three, but you know every at bat 56 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 4: was tough and it was a battle, and I thought 57 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: all night, you know, we were able to do that 58 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: against a really good one. 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So yesterday. 60 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: At the end of the show, uh Ty Simpson, BAMMA quarterback, 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: had a pro day and J Max said, one GM 62 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: is there Ryan Poles of the Bears, And I suggested 63 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: it's a smoke screen because if you really like him, 64 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to go to the pro day. Well, 65 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: I had two execs text me after our show yesterday 66 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: and said, we got it right. Is that you can 67 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: get film from this without being there. Hey, the Rams 68 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: have crushed the draft. They don't even go to the combine. 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: So also, Ohio State had a pro day. A lot 70 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: of people want to see the puck eyes. They've got 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: multiple first and second rounders. Also, the Jets are going 72 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: to do a private workout with Ty Simpson. But this 73 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: is what I think is happening and why nobody showed up. 74 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: I think it was absolutely intentional. I do think he's 75 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: sort of the Jackson Dart late first, early second sphere. 76 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: But every year there's seven teams that need a quarterback. 77 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: And remember next year's draft, it's big game hunting. But 78 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: you're going to have to give out multiple ones, multiple 79 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: twos and threes to get an arch manning to potentially 80 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 1: get a star quarterback. So if you can get somebody 81 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: of value who you see as a franchise quarterback, that's interesting. 82 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: So let's look at the picks, because I think he's 83 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: going to go somewhere between fifteen and twenty one. Even 84 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: though I you know, I didn't think Jackson and Dart 85 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: was a first rounder. He had a very good rookie 86 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: season when he was out of the blue tent. So 87 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: if you look at who is picking sixteen to twenty one, 88 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: sixteen is the Jet second pick they could take him. 89 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Panthers at nineteen would they consider it, Steelers at twenty 90 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: one would they consider it? 91 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: So what does this mean? 92 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: It means. 93 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: It means if. 94 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: You want to get this kid, you got to get 95 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: to fifteen and beat the Jets. And who is at 96 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: fifteen the Buccaneers who have Baker Mayfield. I presume they're 97 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: not taking a quarterback. But Jason Light is a longtime 98 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: general manager. You don't want to give the fifteenth GM 99 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: Jason Light at fifteen. You don't want to give him 100 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: leverage and know you're desperate. So this is a decoy move. 101 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: This to me insures I'll go the opposite. I think 102 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: this ensures that Ty Simpson is going in the middle 103 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: to late first round. 104 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: And I do. I do think he's a franchise quarterback. 105 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: I do. 106 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: But when nobody showed up except the one team you 107 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: know is not drafting a quarterback, there's about five, six 108 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: seven teams aren't drafting good quarterback. Ryan pole shows up 109 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: that tells you to smoke screen. Here was Ty Simpson 110 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: after his pro day. 111 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: I'm tough, I'm resilient. 112 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 6: I love football and I want to make other people beat. 113 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 6: You know, when I come in their program, I'm program 114 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 6: chain with you. 115 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: You know. 116 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 6: I don't just make you know myself better and make 117 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 6: other people better. So if you draft me and you 118 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 6: won't have to be your franchise quarterback, I'm not just 119 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 6: coming in to look after myself when looking after the 120 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 6: whole team and making sure that I lead it better than. 121 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 5: Where I left it. 122 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: All right, he's his traits. 123 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: He's not very big, he's not hyper athletic, but I 124 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: do think he's got a good arm. He's athletic enough. 125 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: I think he's a franchise quarterback. What's interesting about the 126 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: Steelers is they draft the quarterback in the late first round, 127 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: rolled the dice on Kenny Pickett and it didn't work 128 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: like at all. Ty Simpson better than Kenny Pickett. I 129 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: don't think he's his talented as Malik Willis, who went 130 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: in the picket draft. I think Milik Willis is really 131 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: really special, and I think Dolphin fans and the rest 132 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: of us will see that very quickly. But Todd McShay 133 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: was on yesterday. The great thing about Simpson is that 134 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: Calin de Boor does a lot of NFL things with 135 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: his offense, so it's not a really difficult evaluation. And 136 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: as much as everybody says, well, quarterbacks are random, you 137 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: never know where they come from. Most good ones come 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: in the first round. Go look at history. Most don't 139 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: go look at Brady or Montana. Overwhelmingly, GM's evaluations gotten 140 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: better and better and better. Ty Simpson that pro day 141 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: nobody shows up. I think he's a first round guy. 142 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: Here is McShay on the offense at Alabama that actually 143 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: does him a favor. 144 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 7: It's transferable, it's NFL stuff. You know, Ryan Grub's there 145 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 7: and they're doing the pre snap motion deciphering what the 146 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 7: coverage is. He's on schedules, everything's clockwork. The decision making, 147 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 7: it's precise. 148 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 3: I know he has the mind. 149 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 7: I know he got a dad who's been a coach, 150 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 7: a head coach in college football for twenty years. 151 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: He grew up with a football in his hand. He's 152 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 5: been around ball and you see it in his play. 153 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So j Mac is the reason I put that 154 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: on the top of the show today because we talked 155 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: about it yesterday. It seems strange and there were headlines today, 156 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: WHOA what is going on? Total smoke screen. You can 157 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: get video of it. GMS don't want you to know 158 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: they're interested, so they have maybe a little leverage if 159 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: they call Jason light at fifteen to the Bucks and 160 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: want to move up. I think it's all gamesmanship, and 161 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: I think that's fine. I think, yeah, we see games 162 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: on the field, there's a lot of games being played 163 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: off the field, and I'm putting on the screen for 164 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: our TV Audien at sixteen through twenty one. I think 165 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: both the Jets and the Steelers are live to get him. 166 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: It's a fair take. 167 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: I like it. I largely agree that. 168 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see the film one and throwing. 169 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 8: It's more about like, if you're drafting a quarterback, Colin, 170 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 8: that's how you get fired as a GM. 171 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: If you whiff on the quarterback. That you don't get 172 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: fired if. 173 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 8: You miss on a linebacker or an edge rusher, at 174 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 8: least not as likelihood of getting canned. You miss on 175 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 8: a quarterback, especially in the first round early, there's a 176 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 8: good chance in a couple of years you're gone. 177 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: I think Joe Douglas was pretty good for the Jets, 178 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: but he missed on Zach Wilson. I mean, he drafted 179 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: a lot of good players and he missed on him. 180 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, as a result, you want as much information. I 181 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 8: want to be around Ty Simpson, see what he's like. 182 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 8: I personally believe and I know this isn't going to 183 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 8: be popular in NFL circles. We've seen other sports go 184 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 8: so heavy analytics. NFL is kind of the last one 185 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 8: to the game. Baseball and basketball are all analytics. You've 186 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 8: bashed them and you're you're kind of right, you know 187 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 8: that's it's home runs, it's threes, it's layups. I believe 188 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 8: we're seeing a tanking going on in the NFL this season, Colin, 189 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 8: where we know next year's quarterback classes loaded, and we 190 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 8: do say this every year. Oh it's always gonna be no, no, no, 191 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 8: this is different, Colin. If our we're in this draft, 192 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 8: he would go ahead of Mendoza. Talk to any draft analysts, 193 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 8: even though Arts wasn't great, his traits, the lineage, he 194 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 8: would go ahead of Mendoza. I think teams Jets, Dolphins, Cardinals, 195 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 8: I don't even think they're interested in the quarterback. I 196 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 8: think it's a race to the bottom for next year's quarterback. 197 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: Well, you know, you and I have discussed this that 198 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: the basketball and football cultures in America are divergent. They're 199 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: totally different, and the football culture is better their their 200 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: minor league system is better than you know, the NBA 201 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: G league system, although NBA is smartly now kind of 202 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: leaning into college basketball. But I would say this, I 203 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: said this two years ago. The last two years in 204 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: the NFL, I have said it reminds me of the 205 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: bottom of the NBA. It's really unwatchable. By like Thanksgiving. 206 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: It used to be there'd be two awful teams this year. 207 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Miami could be tanking. I'm not going to use tanking Miami, Cleveland, Arizona. 208 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: I think the Raiders will be interesting, so I'm not 209 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: going to put them there. But there's a lot of 210 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: junk at the bottom. I yeah, I don't think because 211 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: of the physicality you can tank in football. I think 212 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: you can play backups, but your rosters are what they are, 213 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 1: and there's so many injuries that sometimes you know you 214 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: got to play who's healthy. 215 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 8: Look at the Seattle model. Colum Seattle built all the 216 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 8: infrastructure they rolled the dice with Ginosmith, did not work. 217 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 8: Then they went Sam Darnold and the infrastructure was loaded. 218 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 8: They like, you say, the best roster in the league 219 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 8: and they win the Super Bowl. Why can't the Jets, 220 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 8: Cardinals and Brown say, Hey, we're not going to go 221 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 8: for a quarterback. We're going to load up on defensive end, trenches, everything, 222 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 8: and then we. 223 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: Get our quarterback next year. 224 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 5: I don't want to. 225 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: Draft Tie Simpson in the first round. Why he's not 226 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 3: that great. 227 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 8: I could sooner get a good player who's going to 228 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 8: be a starter, round out my roster and then plug 229 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 8: and play arch manning a car from Notre Dame or 230 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 8: whoever pops next year, like cam Ward or for Nando Mendos. 231 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff up. 232 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: By the way, nobody wants to hear this, especially in 233 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, but I think there's three teams that can 234 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: win the title, and the Celtics one of those teams. 235 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next Live in Chicago, It's the Hurt. 236 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 237 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 238 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app HI. 239 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 9: This is Jay I'm the producer of the Paula and 240 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 9: Tony Fusco Show. 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The hosts are two 243 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 9: absolute morons who have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable. 244 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 9: Don't listen to the show so it can get campl 245 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 9: What the hell. 246 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: Are you doing our studio get him page. 247 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 7: Ignore that fool. 248 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: Listen to the Pauline Tony Fusco Show on. 249 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: The iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 250 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: He's still moving. 251 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: One of the advantages I think that pro leagues, if 252 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: they use it, is that, for instance, like in baseball, 253 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: you have a minor league system, use it and so 254 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: you can pitch clock. They experimented for years with a 255 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: pitch clock in the minor leagues, the ABS system, balls 256 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: and strike system, which the pitcher, of the catcher or 257 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: the batter can initiate, tap it on the head, not 258 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: the manager. It can be those three and so San 259 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: Francisco didn't use any of theirs last night. The first 260 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: one was a Yankee challenge. It was first pitch like 261 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: the fourth inning, and it's very quick. It's like the 262 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: Hawkeye in tennis. It's very quick. They put it on 263 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: the board, the fans can watch, and I got to 264 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: give Rob Manfred credit. This game was slow pondering four 265 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: years ago. It's cool, it's fun, it's watchable, it's quick, 266 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: and I thought this was really good. It's really fast, 267 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: and the fans can watch the replay up on the board, 268 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: and I think it's another you got. Every team gets 269 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: two challenges. If you go to extra innings, you get 270 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: other challenges, and if you have a challenge and you 271 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: get it right, you get to keep your challenge. 272 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: I like it. San Francisco did. 273 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: Not use THEIRS, but it's I I wish the NBA 274 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: would do some tweaking. I mean, nobody wants to watch 275 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: eighty three point shots. Nobody wants to watch the last 276 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: two and a half minutes of an NBA game take 277 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: thirty minutes like tweak and Rob Manford got some heat. 278 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: But every one of these tweaks has worked, and that 279 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: abs system, balls and strike system. I thought it was 280 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: very effective, very quick. The Giants did not use any 281 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: of THEIRS, and their manager talked about that. 282 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 10: I would have never predicted that we would have played 283 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 10: the entire game and had not used two and then 284 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 10: on the other one. I only used the restroom one 285 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 10: time tonight, and it happened to be the time I 286 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 10: was supposed to be doing a Netflix interview. I was 287 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 10: a little more concerned with the score being five to 288 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 10: nothing at the time than being at that spot, with 289 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 10: all due respect, and so I was trying to make 290 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 10: sure my belt was buckled, and I came up with 291 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 10: some I sounded dumber than usual during that thing, so 292 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 10: as I returned, that's when it had happened. 293 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you got to the modern attention span 294 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: has limitations. Baseball figured it out. NBA has gotten very repetitious. 295 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: I like the playoffs, but I think all these moves 296 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: are making. They're just fast, they're quick. You can use 297 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: the minor league system. I've always said this, the NBA 298 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: should use college basketball and be an ally and anything 299 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: you can experiment with see if you can have a 300 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: deal with college basketball. Baseball brilliantly uses their minor league 301 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: system to experiment. They experimented in the minor leagues and 302 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: it came off without a hitch last night. 303 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: It was great. 304 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays 305 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: and newon Easter. They're not a Empacific. 306 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back. All right, it starts tonight. 307 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: Let's look at the schedule tonight, the Sweet sixteen. There's 308 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: a lot of good teams. They're all major conference teams now, 309 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: so the first one tonight is Perdue in Texas. I 310 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: like Purdue produce a very interesting with Matt Painter is 311 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: they don't. They don't do a lot of portal guys. 312 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: They pay their own guys. They remind me a little 313 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: bit of the villainoble way to do it. They recruit 314 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: high school guys. I like Purdue tonight. I like Iowa 315 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: to shock Nebraska a little bit. I don't know if 316 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: it's shocking Arizona maybe the best team left. I like 317 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: Arizona tonight. I would take Calvin Samson and Houston. I'm 318 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: not sure. I watched Illinois play two or three times. 319 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: Michigan kind of pushed them around, but Michigan pushed a 320 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: lot of people around, so I'm not sure. All Right, 321 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, it's Yukon and Michigan State at maybe the 322 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: best game of the weekend. It's Dan Hurley against Tom 323 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: Izzo and coach Hurley is now joining us live. All right, 324 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: this is gonna be you know, it's funny. You know 325 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: what's funny about this is that you started the year 326 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: twenty two and one. Your only loss was close to Arizona. 327 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: And Arizona. There's an argument it's the best team in 328 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: the tournament, the hell of a team, and you get 329 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: a two seed. I would argue you could be a 330 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: one seed, but the sport is thicker, the sport is better. 331 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: Do you feel your more of a one seed or 332 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: do you think to yourself, coach, you know, we're not 333 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: quite as athletic, we don't have a Stefan Castle. How 334 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: do you view your team as a great two or 335 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: maybe should be a one? 336 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 5: I think it was close. 337 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 11: I mean, you know, if it's great being on Colin 338 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 11: and I loved your breakdown, and we played a couple 339 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 11: of those teams, you know, and I mean, Illinois is excellent, 340 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 11: and you know, they have as good a chance as 341 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 11: anyone to get to a final four, and we were 342 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 11: able to beat those guys, you know, Florida who you know. 343 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 11: I think it was a lot of people's pick to, 344 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 11: you know, to get back to the final four. 345 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 5: Maybe go back to back. 346 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 11: You know, we beat those guys in the non conference 347 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 11: this year, so you know our high end wins. You know, 348 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 11: the performance against Saint John's at home. You know, we 349 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 11: we've showed an ability to to be as good as 350 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 11: anyone in the country. We haven't always come through in 351 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 11: the championship moments, you know, but you know, the reality 352 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 11: is we're a thirty one win team. 353 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 5: We had as good a non. 354 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 11: Conference performance as anyone in the country, and then we 355 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 11: went nineteen and three in the Big East in twenty 356 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 11: two Big East games, So you know, we feel like 357 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 11: we're as dangerous as any team in the country. We 358 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 11: know that Michigan State that is going to be a war. 359 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 11: It's it's a real manly contest, and you know there's 360 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 11: a reason why they're called Spartans. 361 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 5: Very physical. Yeah, it's going to be a battle. 362 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 10: Yeah. 363 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I watched the UCLA game and I really 364 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: like UCLA's guard play, but when you got hot before 365 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: the half, my take was the second half, it was 366 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: Yukon basketball. It was physical, it was tough. Michigan State's fascinating. 367 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: They have one of my favorite players in the tournament, 368 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Cohen Carr. He is a relentless player. He just jumps 369 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: through the television screen. And I want you to talk 370 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: a little bit about him, because I do think you 371 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: and you in Michigan State car makes it a very 372 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: interesting matchup. It's going to be very physical. It's going 373 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: to be hard to officiate. Did did does Cohen Carr 374 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: jump off to you? I think it's going to be 375 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: a hard game to officiate. Tell me about Cohen Carr? 376 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: What do you see with him? 377 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 11: Well, we saw him and obviously it wasn't a regular 378 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 11: season game, it didn't count, but we you know, in 379 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 11: the exhibition. We you know, we played these guys in October, 380 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 11: so we shared the court. And unless you've seen his 381 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 11: athleticism and physicality and the way he runs the court, 382 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 11: how fast he gets down that left lane, and when 383 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 11: it's takeoff time, it's like it's like. 384 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 5: It's watch out. 385 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 11: So as a cutter on the baseline, the lobs the 386 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 11: offensive rebounds, that driving his left hand and getting out transition, 387 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 11: if you're not dialed into those things, he's gonna he's 388 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 11: gonna put you on a highlight reel. And uh, you know, 389 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 11: those are those are things that are controllable. 390 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 5: And now he's made he's made some threes the last 391 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 5: couple of games too. 392 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I love where college basketball is at. 393 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: I said, there was about a twenty year period where 394 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: it just didn't have enough good players. And then I said, 395 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, I'm watching your title team 396 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: and I said, okay, they can compete against Billy Donovan's Gators. 397 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: That you got four or five you had NBA length, physicality, coaching. 398 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: That was the precipice to me. That was the beginning 399 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: of all the international guys are coming over, all the 400 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: nils keeping guys. I feel like right now, Dan, the 401 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: sports got so much damn talent. When I watch these games, 402 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: they don't shoot quite like the NBA. But do you 403 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: feel do you notice it? You've been there eight years. 404 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: Over the last four years, there's just more. There's more dudes, 405 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: there's more, there's more pros. Do you feel it? 406 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 5: Yeah? You know your thousand percent? 407 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 11: You know correct, We're getting more of those high level 408 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 11: international players are coming over. 409 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 5: Those younger players. 410 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 11: That you know aren't quite at the top division over 411 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 11: there making the real money, it's more appealing to come 412 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 11: play play college basketball. And then yeah, I mean you're 413 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 11: getting players are now staying longer. Those guys that are 414 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 11: fringe first round picks, those guys that non lottery players 415 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 11: that aren't guaranteed to go in the go in the 416 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 11: lottery or in the first twenty picks. Most of those guys, 417 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 11: you know, are making the smart, a smart decision of 418 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 11: staying in college where basically they can now get the 419 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 11: same amount of money. 420 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 5: But you're also. 421 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 11: You're gonna get developed better at college than you will 422 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 11: in the G League. You're also going to live better. 423 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 11: You're also going to live better, You're going to travel better, 424 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 11: You're going to stay in nicer hotels. Yeah, you're gonna 425 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 11: you know, you're gonna you're gonna be in the actual 426 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 11: forty million dollar practice facility as opposed to being in 427 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 11: the practicing and community colleges in the G League. 428 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. So you have. 429 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three yukon five NBA guys, twenty twenty four 430 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: to four NBA guys to castles on that team. Lakers 431 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: made you an offer, you turn it down. The stories 432 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: now that Izzo came and you talked to Tom Izzo. 433 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: I one of the things I like about college basketball 434 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: now the old guys are crushing caliparis Zo you know, 435 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: Rick Barnes, the NBA has gotten very young. 436 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: Actually, there's a bunch of young guys. 437 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: But I said at the time, I said, no, I 438 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: think you're a college coach. And that's not that you 439 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: couldn't coach. I think Billy Donovan and you could both 440 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: go either way. When you look back at it now, 441 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: the decision to stay. Was there ever one second of regret? 442 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. 443 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 11: Well, I don't know about regret, but I mean second guessing. 444 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: I don't think that there's. 445 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 11: You know, many people that would honestly say that you 446 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 11: don't second guess decisions that you make in your life, 447 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 11: huge decisions, you know, beyond just career decisions, but marital 448 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 11: I mean people make, you know, all types of second 449 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 11: guessing on things that they've chosen, especially when you when 450 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 11: you see how well the Lakers are playing right now, 451 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 11: or you know, you see the trade or you see 452 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 11: the trade for Luca and and you watch Lebron playing 453 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 11: at the level he's playing at. You know, you definitely 454 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 11: do at different times. But I just I love the 455 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 11: control you still have in college. You know, like the 456 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 11: college coach in college football and college besketball coach is 457 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 11: still has the control to really run the organization up 458 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 11: to his standard and his level of accountability. And I 459 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 11: think that's so you really do control your own destiny 460 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 11: as a college coach. 461 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 5: And that's something I would never want to give up. 462 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: So is all barks I've I'm defending guys that use 463 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: volume as coaching. This week, I've been saying, guys, you know, 464 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: obviously Bobby and I went over the line a few times, 465 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: but you bark at officials more than you bark at players. 466 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: You're probably tough one of those guys that's tough at practice, 467 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: but you're really on the officials when I wonder, because 468 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: you have the highest winning percentage of any active coach. 469 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: You've won almost eighty percent of your tournament games. That's insane. 470 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: Do you coach a little differently in the tournament? For instance, 471 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: if I was in a I would run you out 472 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: of an arena in November, I'm not running you out now. 473 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: Do you think you get a little more leeway in March? 474 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: You can raise the volume a little to the striped shirts, 475 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: you have a little more, little more leeway. 476 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 5: I actually flip it. 477 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 11: I think I think I think I picked up a 478 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 11: couple of technicals this year that I really didn't deserve 479 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 11: because not a lot of attention is drawn to some 480 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 11: of those regular season games on a Tuesday night, some 481 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 11: you know, the twelfth conference game of the year on 482 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 11: a Tuesday at Providence or whatever the situation is. You know, 483 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 11: I think there's more eyes on everybody this time of year. 484 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 5: So if you hand out a week technical. 485 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 11: Foul, uh, You're you're gonna get called out on social media. 486 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 11: You may not ref the next round of the tournament. 487 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 11: So I think, uh. And then I also feel for myself, 488 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 11: I'm more relaxed this time of year. I think you 489 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 11: work so hard to put yourself in position where you're 490 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 11: in contention. Now you find yourself with a team that's 491 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 11: in contention. You got You're more relaxed this time of year. 492 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 11: When you're coaching in December or January, you're really uptight. 493 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 4: Man. 494 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 11: It's like if things start going bad in December, now 495 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 11: you're looking at that staring down the barrel of man. 496 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 5: I got two or three more months a hell with 497 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 5: this group. 498 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 11: If we get out of two game losing streak where 499 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 11: you don't worry about picking the pieces up this time 500 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 11: of year, if you go down, you know, it's kill 501 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 11: or be killed this time of year. If you go down, 502 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 11: you don't have to worry about picking the pieces up 503 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 11: with your team the next day. There are no pieces. 504 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 11: It's over. 505 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 506 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: That Marquette game was that you were up tight end 507 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: of that game? 508 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember, Oh yeah, yeah, that was crushing. I 509 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 5: mean that was I mean that was crushing. 510 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 11: And I was literally breathing down the neck of my guy. 511 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 5: John, who's an excellent official. Who who who refed me? 512 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 11: Going back to Wagner College, I think you know John was. 513 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 11: John was on my game where I really really started 514 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 11: to believe I can have a career as a college coach. 515 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 11: I took my Wagner team, we won that pitt I 516 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 11: think pitt was right top ten in the country. And 517 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 11: it was second year at Wagner College and we went 518 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 11: and won a road game at Pittsburgh and John was 519 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 11: on that game. So anytime I see John out there, 520 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 11: I actually feel really good. Just not not that day 521 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 11: in miwak. 522 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: It was your only bad loss of the season. You 523 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: lost Arizona and Saint John's. Those are good losses. Your 524 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: fun Creighton's good, all right, good luck. You're coaching against 525 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: your mentor you little just a little nervous going up 526 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: against Izzoh little tricks from Izzoh, you're a little nervous. 527 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 5: I think you're as you get closer to the game. 528 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 5: I mean, the film doesn't lie. 529 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 11: Like when you coach against the best coaches, you know, 530 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 11: their teams are so hard to beat. I remember just 531 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 11: so I first got here and Jay Wright was at 532 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 11: Nova and you start watching his team and you just say, 533 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 11: they don't give. 534 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 5: You a lot. 535 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 11: You know, they don't give you anything free, like they 536 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 11: just they make you earn it. 537 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 5: You have to. You know, you have to play. 538 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 11: You have to win the street fight, and you also 539 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 11: have to outplay him at basketball. So you know, you 540 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 11: just know that you're going to have to earn it. 541 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 11: And yeah, coach is a you know, he's a he's 542 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 11: a great friend and a great mentor. 543 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 5: You know. 544 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 11: But again for both of us, tomorrow night, it's it's 545 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 11: killer be killed. 546 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: Good see great Scenior, Good luck to you. 547 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 548 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: in noon Easter nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 549 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 550 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Welcome Back Dodgers opened the season Yankee seven all over 551 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: the Giants last night got the Logan Web early Diamondbacks 552 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: at the Dodgers. Dave Roberts, who pulled all the right 553 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: levers in Game seven, one of the great baseball games. 554 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember the Carlton Fisk Fenway Park 555 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. It had It was one of those games, 556 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: the Cubs World Series win. Dave Roberts eleventh season as 557 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: a Dodger manager is now joining us. 558 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: He just signed that new contract. 559 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: So last year when we talked, there was constant drama 560 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: with a bullpen. It was season long band aids and 561 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: Bondo just trying to patchwork it. Then you go get 562 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz. So it kind of changes, not the culture, 563 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: but the psychology. 564 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 3: Take me too. 565 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: Now you go into the ballpark, you're already there for 566 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: tonight's game, knowing you've got a closer. 567 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 3: How does it change how you manage it? 568 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 5: Does? 569 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 6: You know? 570 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 12: I think it's one of those things that you know, 571 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 12: with whether it's any type of leadership, CEO, business, managing 572 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 12: a baseball team, you sort of go with what you have, 573 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 12: assess it, and then you kind of try to make 574 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 12: the most of it. Right, And I think that we 575 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 12: really didn't have a defined closer last year, and so 576 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 12: we were trying to find spots for ten Scott, you know, 577 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 12: different guys, and then there was injuries, there's performance and 578 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 12: you're just trying to figure out how to get twenty 579 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 12: seven outs. But yeah, now you get Edwin Diaz, who 580 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 12: you know, left money on the table to come to 581 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 12: Los Angeles, to come to the West coast, and so 582 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 12: now you can work from the back end and have 583 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 12: your guy at the back end and then. 584 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 5: Sort of fill in the gaps there. 585 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 12: So it's huge man, and he's a very businesslike guy 586 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 12: calling he just wants to do his job close to 587 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 12: his family and then just wanted to be a Dodger. 588 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 12: So huge get for us. 589 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: You know, Kyle Tucker is interesting in Chicago. He frustrated 590 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: fans because he's kind of just comes to the ballparking place. 591 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: He not you know, not a big personality, and you 592 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: know in Chicago Wrigleyville, it's like you know, watching English 593 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: Premier League soccer. It's rowdy, it's wild, it's everybody's lubricated. 594 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: I kind of think his personalities works in LA Let's 595 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: talk about that on a star studded roster. 596 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: How he fits your cul Sure. 597 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: I think he fits seamless. 598 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 12: And I do think that you nailed it in the 599 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 12: sense of his personality is just kind of put on 600 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 12: the hard hat, go to work, and then do it 601 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 12: again the next day. And so he doesn't do the 602 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 12: self promotion, he doesn't kind of do the crazy celebration antics. 603 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 12: He just wants to play baseball. Just had a baby, 604 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 12: so he's excited about that. And again he left money 605 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 12: on the table to play for the Dodgers. And then 606 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 12: so when you're looking at show, Hey, Freddie, Mookie, you know, 607 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 12: Will Smith, Yamamoto, some other guys, we have plakes now, 608 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 12: I just think that, you know, even for me, you're 609 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 12: going to see him hitting second today and that's what 610 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 12: he's going to be doing at the outset and looking 611 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 12: up beyond and just get on base. We don't need 612 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 12: you to slug, play good defense, run the bases, do 613 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 12: you and help us win baseball game. So I do 614 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 12: think that this fit makes a lot of sense. 615 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: You know, Dave, And it's certainly not a weakness, but 616 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: it's something I thought about knowing you were going to 617 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: come on the show today. Is that listen, he's another 618 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: big stick. I mean, if you know, if he hits, 619 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: thirty bombs for you. It wouldn't it wouldn't be. It 620 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. But as you know, you can be 621 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 1: his gift that as Freddie Freeman or O Tani and 622 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: struggle in the postseason because the pitching's so good in 623 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: the postseason. Do you worry about with this team that 624 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: you have so much power, does it hurt your ability 625 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 1: to manufacture runs without you know, like I said last night, 626 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: the Yankees had nine singles. I'm said, Aaron Judge, it 627 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: was zero for five. I'm like, that's actually, in a 628 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 1: weird way, encouraging. Do you worry that, Man, we got 629 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: a lot of big sticks. Can we still manufacture runs? 630 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: Do you think about that? 631 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 5: You know what I do. 632 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 12: And I think that that was more of an indictment 633 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 12: probably on teams that we had a few years ago, 634 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 12: in the sense of we just slug and we we 635 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 12: can't get hits. And it's interesting that you know, the 636 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 12: batting average is devalued, has been devalued over to. 637 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 5: Let's say, the last ten years. 638 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 12: But when you get into the postseason, people want base runners, 639 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 12: they want to get hits, and how do you drive 640 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 12: in or run when you're facing the best pitching. And 641 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 12: I will say this is that our guys to a man, 642 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 12: know how to get on base. They control the strike zone, 643 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 12: and they know how to get hits. And so that's 644 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 12: talking about getting a hit, you know, with two strikes, 645 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 12: with guys in squaing position, with two outs facing good pitching, 646 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 12: knowing how to hit the outfield grass. And so I 647 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 12: don't worry about that with this ball club. And I'll 648 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 12: tell you this right now is one through nine. It's 649 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 12: a relentless lineup and so that picture is going to 650 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 12: be at one hundred pitches in the fourth fifth inning 651 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 12: and that's a grind. So I think that with our lineup, 652 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 12: we should be able to get to starters and get 653 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 12: to the pen early and see how it goes. So yeah, 654 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 12: I'm not too worried about, you know, just a slug 655 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 12: because I do feel we can manufacture runs if we 656 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 12: need to. 657 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: With O Tawny Show, Hey O Tawi, do you have 658 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: a game plan going in or is it one of 659 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: those We're just going to communicate. We're going to see 660 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: how we feel. You know, I mean, you've got essentially 661 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: a player that does something nobody else does. How do 662 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: you management manage it opening day on. Do you have 663 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: to be super communicative in this relationship. 664 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely. 665 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 12: So he's going to start the fifth game of the 666 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 12: season and he's already up to eighty five pitches, So 667 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 12: I think it's for me as far as managing the 668 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 12: game when he pitches, we're going to manage it. I'm 669 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 12: going to manage it the way to help us win 670 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 12: a game and obviously manage his stress in a particular game, 671 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 12: the pitch count, all that stuff. And then as far 672 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 12: as the hitting, you know, last year we started out 673 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 12: with him with going one inning and then repeating that 674 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 12: a couple of times to then build the two then three, 675 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 12: so it didn't really impact the DH role. Where now 676 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 12: the jumping off point is five to six innings. So 677 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 12: that's something we're going to monitor and see that We're 678 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 12: not going to be a hole be behold until like 679 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 12: he has to DH every time he pitches. We'll kind 680 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 12: of manage that. CIA feels. But yeah, there's constant communication 681 00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 12: going on. 682 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 5: But what a player. 683 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what was your opening message in spring for this 684 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: group of star studded Dodgers? What is the coming off 685 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: back to back titles? Can you have a new message? 686 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 12: What is the message, yeah, you know some of some 687 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 12: of it is like you know, the old continuing to 688 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 12: reinforce that our guys do a very good job of 689 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 12: minding the little things. And I think it's just the 690 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 12: whole idea of just winning a baseball game. And you know, 691 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 12: whether it's spring training, it's Game seven in the World Series, 692 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 12: it's opening day in twenty twenty six, we have a 693 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 12: certain standard of excellence. And I think that even when 694 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 12: you watch as Colin, how we play the game, run 695 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 12: the basis, play defense. It matters how we practice. I 696 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 12: think the message as far as keep the blinders on, 697 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 12: get the blinders on, look forward. I reference a greyhound. 698 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 12: You know, when a greyhound's in a race, they're chasing 699 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 12: the lure and they're not looking at who the competition 700 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 12: is to the side. And I think that the loure 701 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 12: is right there, that trophy, and we're chasing that show. 702 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 12: It doesn't matter who's beside us, who's behind us, who's 703 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 12: chasing us. And I think it's just more of just 704 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 12: keeping the focus on ourselves. 705 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: Well, you've got you know, you've only got two trophies 706 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: behind you when you just won your third as a manager, what. 707 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 12: Worth the third, Yeah, the third, see the trophies. 708 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 5: They got it. 709 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 12: They got to come back, so I'm trying to move 710 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 12: so you can see them. The third one is in Root, 711 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 12: so I got twenty twenty four, twenty five is in Root. 712 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 12: Tomorrow we'll get our twenty five World Series rings. So 713 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 12: hopefully we do this again in twelve fourteen months and 714 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 12: then I'll have four behind me. 715 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: Okay, just cross your fingers on Amazon. 716 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: You never know. They're usually on time. You just hope 717 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: they hope they deliver. It's great seeing you, and I 718 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: know you got a little golf in but you just 719 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: a credit to the sport and you're a gentleman and 720 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: I love you coming on the show and I appreciate it. 721 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: Thanks Dave. 722 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 5: I love what you do. Man. Thanks for having me on. 723 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: You bet Dave Roberts already in the office. Their heavy 724 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: favorites to three. Peete and listen man, that Edwin Diaz 725 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: in the close, closing it for this team. That was 726 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: a we said it before twenty six saves last year. 727 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 3: I think about that. You win a World Series. 728 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: They went into the playoffs having blown twenty six saves, 729 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: so it was a it was. 730 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: A Dodger fans. 731 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny because when the bullpen struggles, 732 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: the manager gets all the heat. You're not pulling the 733 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: right levers. It's like, you got to get people out. 734 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: There's only so much a manager can do.