WEBVTT - Gottlieb - All Ball - with guest Chris Beard 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.000 He welcome into All Ball. I'm your host, Dot GOTL. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:17.080 We really appreciate you downloading, describing, and waiting this year's podcast. Uh, 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:18.760 this one's gonna be a little bit of a long one, 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.880 so buckle up. We we have we're we're going to 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:27.280 continue to evolve the pod during the off season and 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.520 because there really is no off season. Last week we 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.400 talked to a lot of high school hoops and from recruiting. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.760 This week we'll talk some college hoops. Chris Beard from 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.519 Texas Tech is gonna join me, and I don't want 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:40.879 to do the let's talk about your players. We'll talk 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.479 a little bit about the Elite eight, a little bit 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.680 about you know, losing a one and done first time 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.000 ever Texas Tech. UH and Chris Beard have lost a 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.440 one and done. What I want to get to is 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.279 his kind of mere curial path from being a high 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.240 school ball player that was set to go to like 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.800 a D two n a I A level school and 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.560 UH went to Texas, thought about going back to playing 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.640 in an n A I A school, finished up at Texas, 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.039 became a a very young assistant coach. So what I 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.000 want to get to with Chris Beard is his path 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:14.920 to becoming not only a head coach, but a really 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:19.080 good one. It's it's he's super interesting, you know. Um, 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:23.080 he's a great storyteller. Plus there's some Bob Knight to it, right, Like, 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.000 don't you want Bob Knight stories? Of course, you want 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.360 Bob nice stories. I love Bob Knight stories. Before he 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.360 joins us, I'm gonna give you a Bob Knight's story 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.000 of my own life. One of the things in the 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.720 feedback that many of you guys give me tell us 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.000 more stories. Okay, here's the story. When I was getting 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.000 to be a freshman for as a freshman at Notre Dame, 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:40.440 I got invited to the U S a U S 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.320 Trials and uh, it was like the undernineteen trials. A 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.240 matter of fact, it's funny because Tim Duncan was a 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.680 sophomore maybe going to be a junior. He's really young, 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.280 and I was an old high school senior, and so 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.160 he could have played in the maybe it's the eighteen 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:55.919 and under or something like that, and he actually played 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.280 up because he was just so much better than everybody 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.200 play like the twenty one and under the me and 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:01.480 under it. I was on the eight team under. I 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.840 don't remember how it worked. So um, I was. I 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.200 was friends of the guy named Charlie Miller. Childie Miller's 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.320 nicknames Fluke. He's from Miami, Florida, actually played for Frank 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:17.920 Martin and uh um, he played for Biami Senior High School. Anyway, 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.480 so Fluke could come out and stayed at my house 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.080 and played on my AU team the summer before this 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:24.600 is back when you could play kind of out of 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.040 area stuff. So we used to fly guys in every 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.040 summer to load up our team. And Charlie is a 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.079 great dude. He had just completed his freshman year at Indiana, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.760 and then Brian Evans was also there, and so I 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.840 kind of befriended Brian Evans and Charlie and I was, 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:41.440 you know, like a little brother to both of them, 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:47.000 hanging out around the USA Trials. So and when in 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.200 basketball and a lot of you guys are coaches or 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.840 players and you know this, but one of the things 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.799 that when you play for or work for a vivid 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:59.200 personality like a good ice breaker, is give me a 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.120 give me a story, right, give me a you know, 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:03.760 if he had played with a guy who was a 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:05.920 whack job, give me a what's it? Called, you know, 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.679 give me a story, and so I never forget. I said, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:14.480 you know, give me a story about coach Knight. And um, 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:19.239 at the time the story what was this that? Uh, 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.440 they were coming back from Iowa, playing on the road 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.919 in Iowa, and Indiana's team playing had a chair for 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.720 Bob Knight up in the front and it could spin 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.799 around and face the rest of the team and they 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:36.120 lost to Iowa. And Coach Knight had a bowl of 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.480 fruit and he was stewing over his bowl of fruit 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.560 looking at the statueet and he turned around to look 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.680 at the team and he started reading the stat line 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:46.600 and every negative stat that he would read, he pick 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.200 up a piece of fruit and throw it at one 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.320 Greg Graham five turnovers? Are you freaking kidding me? And 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.600 he started throwing fruit at Greg Graham. And then of 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.720 course the managers like, what are you supposed to do? 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.040 You when you get the fruit, your reload coach so 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:03.560 that he has his fruit because he wants to eat 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.000 it or he wants to throw it again. So um, 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.120 there's all. There's all kinds of There's a famous video 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.160 out there of Coach Night getting run over. Every most 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.680 coaches have been run over at practice and that is 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.359 good is gold? Right? The coaches yelling and streaming, and 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:23.440 he forgets that we're transitioning offense to defense. And you know, 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.800 some of these dudes they get into their forties, fifties, sixties. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.680 Sometimes they trip, sometimes they're just old. Sometimes it just 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.200 surprises them and they fall or they get they just 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.320 get run over because you know, if you're you're playing uh, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.200 you're playing offense, and all of a sudden the shot 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.040 goes up and he's on your ask to get back 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.320 and get that back on defense, you turn, you sprint 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.440 and all there's coach so supposedly also and one of 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.640 the other stories was that there was a film that 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.280 they had common to hear from the managers of Coach 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.359 Night getting run over at practice, and they enjoyed it 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.000 so much that when they'd have a bad day, they 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.160 would all go over to Brian Evans apartment and and 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.440 run it incessantly over and over and over again. Let's 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.800 watch it again and again. Some has some Bob Nights stories, uh, 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:05.960 and some other stories upcoming with Chris beard Um the hoop. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.599 I want to get to real quick in terms of 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.800 the NBA. Is many people reacting now is it's it's 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.680 set in that Lebron James is going to be a 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.719 member of the l A Lakers. Now, look, you don't 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.800 have to agree with my opinion. It's okay, uh, And 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.200 it's it's not such a strong opinion that it's like 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.360 this is absolutely the right way and there's no wrong way. 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.320 I've said for a long time that Michael Jordan is 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.400 to the greatest player I've ever seen play basketball, and 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.040 and the struggle I've had with Lebron this is more 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.800 previous to this year because he had a little bit 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:40.280 more of this has has has been that in any 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:45.320 basketball game I ever played him, especially like pickup games, 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.360 and that's kind of way the NBA has always been. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:49.120 You get down game in the line, you get the 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:50.560 ball of your best player, and you get the hell 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.720 all the way and he's gonna go get you a bucket, right. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:58.560 And I understand that Lebron James is wired to to 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.920 set people up, and he's in credible pastor. He's a 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:05.000 really good pastor um. But there was something about the 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.400 killer instinct that at times he would defer. And while 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.920 that's great in big situations, you know, it's it's not 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.440 always great. That's great in some situations, always great in 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.599 the biggest of situations, as opposed to Jordan, who had 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.800 to learn to pass as Kobe had to. I don't 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.760 know if he ever truly learned to trust his teammates, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.000 but he did trust Derek Fisher, and Derek Fisher made 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.120 him look good. Um. I do think there's there's some 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:32.520 genius to him, and it was uh to to Lebron 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.120 and how he plays. But Larry Bird didn't have to 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.599 learn the pass to to to score down the stretch. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.559 Magic Johnson didn't either. So, however you regard Lebron James 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.520 is the greatest player of all time, the greatest player 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.440 of this era, I'm okay saying he's the greatest player 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.520 of this era, even if I thought Kevin Durant in 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.599 many ways outplayed him in both the past two NBA finals. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.320 And I actually think that Lebron James is living a 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.960 lot on reputation defensively, and Kevin Durant, though his defense 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.919 wasn't as good most the season as it was the 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.159 start of the year, and in the playoffs, he has 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.520 shown the desire to play more defense than he ever did. 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.200 So whether or not I think he's the best player, 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.880 now the second best player. It's in arguable over the 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.040 last decade, he's been consistently the best or one of 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.040 the top three players in the NBA. Right, we were 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.360 okay with that. Cool. So he goes to the Lakers, 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.360 and now people are being critical in many ways, saying, look, 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:28.400 Barkley said he wants to be a mogul, and everybody's saying, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:32.440 it's not about winning. And look, I don't think it's 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:36.280 solely about winning, but I think that winning is part 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.280 of the equation. It's just not the only part of 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:45.840 the equation. Family location, whether ability to you know, ability 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.440 to to do something after after basketball, Like, you know, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.800 I think he's an incredibly well rounded guy. Now that 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.880 that may not fit your narrative or what you want 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.440 for your athletes. And it's interesting because Kobe has found 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.360 this second passion. Right, here's Kobe Bryant, guy who a 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:05.360 lot of people thought, man, he is just not he 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.920 is just not going to be able to cope. He's 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.120 not gonna be able to cope with um, with with 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.720 not having basketball, and he's already won, you know, an Oscar. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.760 So we were so scared that Kobe wouldn't know what 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.920 to do with himself. And at some of the Kobe's curious. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.160 He's very bright, and uh, some of it I think 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.560 was helped out by the fact that he had the 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.280 year off when he had the Achilles tendon surgery and 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.640 the rehab. You know, people think you rehab twenty four 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.360 hours a day. You don't. Kobe also spent more time 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.920 as a father, you know, started a program for his daughter, 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.520 a du daughters, both of them soccer than basketball, and 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.920 he started to develop other interests. Lebron has other interests 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.880 and he's still a great player. He's what you what 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.800 you understand when you're in a business is like what 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.280 you understand is as a student. I remember when he 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.839 first got to college and you were just overwhelmed by like, oh, 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.800 I got all these classes, I got this the syllabus 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.880 to keep up with the reading and the homework and 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.920 the tests and yeah, by the way, I'm trying to 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.160 have a social life. And for me, he was lifting 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.319 in basketball and eating and and being away from home. 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.800 Like you just your time management skills suck three years 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.000 into college. Time management skills are awesome. That's no different 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.640 than now. He's a machine guy's a machine. Gets up, 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.600 you know, gets up. Most of these guys get up. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.800 They work out early. I'll give you an example, Gordon Hayward. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.160 I know this for a fact. Gordon Hayward gets up 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.320 at five, he's in, he's at his his workout place 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:33.400 at six. From six to seven, he works on his body, lifting, running, 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.240 whatever his trainer has him do. And then from seven 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.000 to eight he works on his game and then he's done, 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:38.880 doesn't touch the basketball the rest of the day. That's 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:43.360 his offseason routine. And so from eight until whatever, Gordon 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.080 Hayward is just a dad, and he's just a dad. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:47.679 As we found out, he's gonna be the dad of 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.640 another daughter, but he's just a dad. Well that's the 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.079 same for Lebron. Like these guys, they understand how to 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.600 manage their time. You know, they have drivers, they have chefs, 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.520 they have trainers, they have guys that just stretched them 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.320 and take care of their body and within that other time, 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.800 within that downtime, he's past the video game playing stage. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.679 You know, he's past the staring at his phone stage. 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:11.920 So yeah, he can be a mogul, but he can 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.360 also still be a great basketball player. I don't think 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.480 what Lebron James is. I don't think what Charles Barkley 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.360 is saying is wrong. I think he is on the 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.360 downward side of his career, but he's still kind of 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.920 in the downward side of his prime. Right. He hasn't 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.480 hit the oh my god, Jason Kidd can't make a 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.280 lay up stage. He's not close to that. He's he's 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:32.560 managed the mileage on his odometer better than anybody in 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.560 the history maybe of any sport. That's what's really remarkable 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.360 about him. So, look, it's it's thrown people for a loop, 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.760 but we all kind of knew it was coming. The 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.880 roster is a little bit different than you thought. But 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.520 as I've stated previously on my radio show three to 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.920 Sixties Tren twelve to three Pacific, The Dug outl Lip Show, 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.920 Fox Sports Radio, there was no blank slate. You can't 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.319 create a team out of nothing, and based on what 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.080 was available, this was the path that they've chosen. Let's 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.640 get some junkyard dogs, experienced guy is off the bench 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.040 and see what the young guys got. And so as 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.440 we react to Lebron James, is that a sure fire 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.520 championship team? No? But I also think he's a builder. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:12.200 People like the build. This is here's the housing analogy. 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.040 You know. Some people like to buy a really sick 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.679 house that somebody else redid and just live in it 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.080 and and and enjoy life. Some people like going in 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.440 and buying excuse my language, but a shitter. You know, 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.160 you go in and you buy something that needs to 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.880 and they like to, whether they scrape it or they 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:29.600 just read you the kitchens in the bathroom and the 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.960 tile and they paint everything. And then you know they're 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:33.200 in it for a couple of years and they're like, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.240 now we made profit, let's sell it. Let's move on. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.280 Let's move down the street and do the exact same thing. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:41.640 That's who Lebron James's. He likes to redo things. So 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.240 I have you know, I we knew it was coming. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.520 It was a little bit harder than people will allow 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.880 magic to allow us to believe with magic. Remember magic 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.400 walked in and Paul George wasn't coming. He had to 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.880 explain that one away. Even if they had cooled on 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.400 Paul George and some people saw it coming, the fact 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:58.960 is that you're getting ready to have a meeting. You're 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:00.640 the only one that has the meeting. And all you 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.240 gotta do is make the wide open jump shot, and 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.840 Paul George decides he stay in Oklahoma City. That had 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.880 to be somewhat of a surprise. So they closed the 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.560 deal and now everybody reacts. Um. I'll also point out 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:17.680 this in regards to the NBA, and this is really important. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.520 I think in regards to the NBA, the Oklahoma City 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:24.079 Thunder I think got better, more so than anyone outside 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.640 of the Lakers. They refined their roster first, getting Paul 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.440 George back year two, He is going to be better. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.400 You are more comfortable, You know how to play within 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.840 the offense, even if they restructure things. You have a 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.280 better relationship with Russell Westbrook. You know how that you're 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.280 just more comfortable year two in a college or two 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.480 in a job. You're just more comfortable. Getting ready to 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.720 Carmelo Anthony, who they couldn't hide defensively, and they needed 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.880 to feed the basketball to and get him shots. That's better. Remember, 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.520 they get Andre Robertson back, who they love because he's 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.280 such a versatile defender and he has no ego offensively, 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.920 albeit he's got to make some You just gotta make 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.480 a shot in order to keep people honest, And then 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.000 I like the I really like the acquisition of going 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.160 out and getting getting Dennis Shrewder. Shooder is not a 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:09.680 great starting point guard. He's probably bottom five to seven 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.600 in terms of the starting point guards in the league. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.920 Not great. But as they back up, is the sixth 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.680 man who can move Russell Westbrook off the ball. That's 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.199 a great get. That's a really really good get. So again, 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.200 not working with a blank slate. Having Russell Westbrook, did 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.800 they do they have enough shooting around him? I don't know. 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:27.920 You got Paul George, you still got breedness, you got 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.280 the ability to go small with grant Um, and now 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.960 you get another guard who can who can defend the 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.520 basketball and who can get into lane and create shots 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.760 for himself and for others, for others, is is a 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.160 bit of a question mark. I like it. I think 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.080 Oklahoma City is gonna challenge to be the second best 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:45.760 team in the West. Whether that they have the second 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.800 best record in the West, that doesn't really matter. Oklahoma 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.800 City is gonna be a tough out, a really really 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.080 tough out. And uh, I'm I'm fascinated to see what 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:58.040 happens with the Thunder in regards to the n c 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.440 A for college basketball. We wait and wait and wait, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.920 and we'll find out what the new recruiting rules, what 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:07.120 the new calendar looks like. But it does look like 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.600 it's going to be a combination of the recommendations of 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:14.920 the committee and the recommendations of college coaches. I don't 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.760 know how these camps work, these massive camps run by 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.800 NBA people and n c A people and somehow taking 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.440 shoe companies out of it. I hope to be involved. 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.800 They call me, I may make a call. I'd like 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.720 to be involved. I think it'd be great for guys 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.960 that love the game that don't have a specific tie 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.200 to a specific shoe company or specific AU program that 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.000 that that's been on the tape. I like that. But 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.360 I also think it keeps the AU teams going. They'll 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.240 still be the Peach Dam, they'll still be the Gauntlet, 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.720 They'll still be other events as well. I don't think 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.120 that will die. And I think April recruiting period is important. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.840 I like the idea getting high school coaches involved, but 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.480 I also like the idea of keeping college coaches more 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.640 engaged with their own current players. If it was me, 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.640 if I was staying the rules. The rules will be 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.920 there are no rules, right instead of having condensed weekends 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:00.760 where you can come out and see kid. Just look, 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:02.600 if you want to go on the road, recruit, go 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:07.320 on the road recruit. If you're a recruiting assistant coach, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.240 you should be allowed to go out whenever you want. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.600 This idea that you're gonna bombard players and and be 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.000 around them too much. If you're around a kid too 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.200 much and he wants space, he's gonna eliminate you from 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.320 recruiting him. Everybody likes attention, they don't like creepy attention. 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.800 So to me, i'm a I'm a less. Rules is more. 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.200 Don't pay your players, don't change their grades, you know, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.800 don't pay people who are gonna pay the players, and 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.520 don't you know, don't encourage anybody else to change their grades. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.240 That that that's kind of it. I know there's gotta 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:44.920 be a couple more rules than that, But that's about 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.960 it for me. But we'll wait to see what happens. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.040 We'll start to preview college basketball as well. We continue 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.080 to update you on NBA stuff. Dwight Howard, by the way, 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.560 saying this is bouncing back to the NBA saying that 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.160 the Warriors called. I do think the Warriors wanted a 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:00.920 big guy. They want get a big guy in the cheap. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.000 They got to Marcus Cousins. They thought they could get 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.840 Dwight Howard, and then Cousins called him and kind of 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.560 surprised them. The difference with Cousins and Howard is Cousins 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.840 is more in his prime and can shoot the basketball, 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.240 but he's not gonna play until March. Howard can't shoot 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.600 and is also kind of a weird fit with the 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.200 personality of that team. Although he's a guy who likes 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.840 to have fun, they like to have fun playing uh, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.520 but playing style wise, he could be an odd fit, 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.200 especially considering the minutes would be limited that he'd get there. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.520 But the money that he got in Washington was the 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.560 money that he would get in Gold States. So it's 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.440 reasonable to think they called and then he was usurped 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.440 and moved. He was he was. He was passed over 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.240 when they went and got to Marcus Cousins. That's my 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.320 read on some of the NBA stuff we mentioned some 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.200 of the college basketballs. One last thing, Ian Williamson weighs 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.320 out weighs in a two five pounds. He's six five 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:55.640 and change pounds. Dude, this this is I mean, he's 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.360 a tank, but he's got a slim up because his 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.360 explodes as as most of its an athlete as he is, 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:05.840 and he's explosive. Um he it's his ability to make 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.680 it at the next level is gonna be Kenny easy, 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.320 agile enough to move out on the floor. He's gonna 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.639 have to be an undersized foe. Man. They're gonna have 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.400 to shoot a little bit better, but that's gonna come 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.480 with with work ethic got learned to play harder on defense, 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.560 but he has a lot of He has the god 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.359 given athletic ability, but he needs to be playing in 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.639 the two fifties to sixties. He always wish whatever Villanova 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.720 does with those guys to slim down, that's what Duke 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.879 should do. So as I'm I'm getting ready for the 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.119 Duke Kentucky's maybe even to Carolina if they figure out 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.480 their point guard situation. U c l A should be loaded. Uh. 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.399 College basketball is gonna be a lot of fun this 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.880 year to cover. Obviously a whole new team in Villanova, 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.440 since seemingly their entire team went in the first round 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.080 of the NBA Draft. Keep an eye on Zion Williamson, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.880 who is a YouTube sensation. But watch for his weight, 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.280 watch for his movement defensively, and whether or not he 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.720 could shoot the basketball. I think his basketball like Q 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.960 is good enough. It's gonna be more about his basketball mode. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:06.879 All right, let's get you to Chris pet All right, 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.880 let's roll on here in the All Ball podcast, as 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.399 we talked basketball all the time. This I don't know. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.280 As soon as we started doing this pod. One of 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.960 the first I don't know, like ten people that came 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.760 to my mind in terms of just the name like 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.359 all Ball, which is all basketball all the time, was 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.960 the head coach of Texas Tech. He's had an incredible 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:31.080 run um, starting out as an assistant kind of working 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.199 his way up through the different levels of coaching to 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.520 becoming not only have do any spectacular job at Little Rock, 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.760 but then Texas Tech. In just two seasons, I mean, 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:45.840 think about this, one and four fifty four. That's his uh, 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:49.760 that's his record so far. He's been the champion of 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:51.720 the Sun Belt. Of course, he was Coached the Year 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.679 in the Big Twelve, Coach of the Year in in 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.200 the Sun Belt. I mean, you go back and look 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.919 at his resume, and it is. It's just one of 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.080 incredible growth. But it's also a guy who the more 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:03.919 you get to know him, the more you know he 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.200 kind of is all ball all the time. Chris Pierre 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.240 joins us here on the podcast. Um, is that is 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.040 that fair? Like? Do you have if you had if 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.040 you had to pick your three other interests outside of basketball, 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.879 and you can't say you're girls, can't say your girls? 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:22.639 What would they be? Well, that's a tough one. Man. 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.399 I was going to go down the daughter Avenue and 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.400 the girlfriend Street, but um, can we still say girlfriends 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.840 one of the three? That's fine? I mean, listen, women, 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.040