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Speaker 1: Advice. Welcome to the Naughty but Night Show. It's Friday.

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Speaker 1: We got through the week together, everybody. It was a

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Speaker 1: tough week, lots and lots going on. I'm sure it

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Speaker 1: was for you too. But don't worry. The next twenty

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Speaker 1: going to be delicious because our dear friend Corey Andrew

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Speaker 1: from Instinct magazine is back with us. Hey, Corey, are

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Speaker 1: you there? I am here, Harry. Everyone, delicious time, delicious time.

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Speaker 1: How much your vacation? We missed you last week, my friend?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Yes, it was so wonderful. I absolutely adore

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Speaker 1: a Key West. I recommend it. It's a beautiful, beautiful place.

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Speaker 1: It's lovely. Where do you stay? There? Is there a

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Speaker 1: nice place we should go to? Well, it's so funny,

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Speaker 1: you know, Joe and I had to stay in three

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Speaker 1: different hotels over nine days because we booked so late

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Speaker 1: we couldn't find one. So I will recommend one that amazing.

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Speaker 1: My favorite is probably now the Alexander Guesthouse. It was

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Speaker 1: amazing and I even sang. They gave me the microphone

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Speaker 1: and it was amazing. But it's a beautiful guesthouse. Check

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Speaker 1: out Alexander's guesthouse and thank you, thank you, thank you. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's jump in the show. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It is daytime. Lots a lot of tea. This is

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Speaker 1: big tea at the top of the show. So Ninny

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Speaker 1: Leaks from the Real Housewives of Atlanta is now suing

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Speaker 1: Bravo and Andy Cohen, claiming they fostered a racist environment.

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Speaker 1: So she is suing multiple companies behind the show. I

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Speaker 1: think people don't realize with a TV show, a lot

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Speaker 1: a lot of different people pieces go into it. So

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Speaker 1: you have the network, you have Bravo, you have the

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Speaker 1: executive producer, that's the boss, that's Andy Cohen. Then you

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Speaker 1: have the production company. You normally hire an outside production

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Speaker 1: company to put this all together. Ninie is alleging that

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Speaker 1: all these people can aspired to foster and tolerate a

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Speaker 1: hostile and racist work in environment. The lawsuit was filed

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and Ninie Leaks is complaining that the executives

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Speaker 1: turned a blind eye and ear to racist remarks made

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Speaker 1: on the show. So the people she's going after the

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Speaker 1: defendants are NBC Universal, They own Bravo, Bravo, the production

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Speaker 1: company True entertainment. They're the ones that put it all together,

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Speaker 1: an executive producer Andy Cohen. The suit says the following quote, NBC,

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Speaker 1: Bravo and True fostered a corporate and workplace culture in

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Speaker 1: which racially insensitive and inappropriate behavior is tolerated, if not

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Speaker 1: even encouraged. That this is not the first time Ninie

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Speaker 1: has called Andy a racist. This is the second time.

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Speaker 1: This could blow up this franchise. What are you hearing,

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Speaker 1: caring well, you know, yeah, your point. Ninia has claimed

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Speaker 1: this before, but she's also claimed a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: other things about Andy too, and it makes you wonder

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Speaker 1: if she's just got some hostility. I mean, I take

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Speaker 1: allegations like this seriously. I mean, I'm an African American

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because Ninia's in a way like the

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Speaker 1: take it seriously, but we've also got to point out

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Speaker 1: to Nini has said stuff in the past that didn't

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Speaker 1: exactly turn out to be correct. This is the problem

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Speaker 1: with Bravo. And I spoke to a really senior person

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Speaker 1: problem this franchise. The type of people they have hired

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Speaker 1: to be on this show, the ladies that flipped the tables,

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Speaker 1: the fulled and drunk that swear bad behavior is encouraged

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Speaker 1: or it has been on the show. The show's a

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Speaker 1: train wreck. It it it has been for a decade, but

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Speaker 1: it's good entertainment. Now. I'm not and anything here about

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Speaker 1: stars who are willing to make fools of themselves, eventually

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Speaker 1: now that's what's happening here. I'm surprised, actually Nini's the

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Speaker 1: a retaliation. I think Nini's her well has dried up.

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Speaker 1: If you will, you know, she doesn't have the opportunities,

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Speaker 1: I'm told now Nini will not work in this business.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just because of the accusations, but it's

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Speaker 1: because it was such a charmed life for her, right

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Speaker 1: it was going to explode for her. All right. What

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Speaker 1: I said to one of the ladies, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: she didn't believe that. She thought that she was famous

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Speaker 1: have won, actually one American Idol, the star of the

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Speaker 1: show is Idol, not you. After your season, they move on.

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Speaker 1: And New York is doing this right now. They're recasting

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Speaker 1: the entire franchise. And I would, I would argue in

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Speaker 1: won't have the power it has now. Wouldn't You're off

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Speaker 1: lot of jobs. Have you ever felt like that, Corey.

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Speaker 1: I've worked for big magazines and when I realized this,

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Speaker 1: want to be in this magazine. It's nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with me, honey. I work for Instinct magazine. My embarks

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Speaker 1: know what you think about this, Ninnie LEAs is claiming

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Speaker 1: hear your results, Corey Love, what are you working on? Yes? Well.

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Speaker 1: In a new statement, Alec Baldwin says the New Mexico

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Speaker 1: how did it go off? Then? But his statement further

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Speaker 1: using that to say that he's been exonerated. But I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Rob, I did my research. I did

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Speaker 1: my research, you did. I can find no language in

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Speaker 1: laughing at outrageous. It doesn't work like this, Alec. You

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Speaker 1: can't decide that you've been exonerated and then put out

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Speaker 1: relations aspect. And he wants out there that he's exonerating

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Speaker 1: the concern. Is here Pete's creer is exploding and why

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Speaker 1: I told you, from a relationship standpoint, reality shows are

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Speaker 1: the kiss of death. So if he really, if he's

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Speaker 1: really serious about Kim, look, I can say Bobbie and Whitney,

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Speaker 1: And that just shows you how kind you are, because

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Speaker 1: you touched by a little heart every minute. Don't do it, Pete,

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Speaker 1: this is really controversial. So what's happening now with the

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Speaker 1: masked singer? Lots of drama. Yeah, well this is so

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Speaker 1: crazy too, like so King Jang protests Rudy Giuliani's controversial

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