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Speaker 1: We got to get through next week, the final countdown
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Speaker 1: fight through every single day. If there's like a future
Speaker 1: Meet Friday and I'm just sort of standing out there,
Speaker 1: do you think it'd be possible You wouldn't even notice
Speaker 1: how he was there, and I could have some brisket
Speaker 1: or something. Okay, I would have to ask everybody, and
Speaker 1: that means the back room guys as well. They'd have
Speaker 1: to vote on it, all of them. Yeah, everybody would
Speaker 1: have to vote on it, because you know, there is
Speaker 1: and it's not a consensus, but there's a feeling that
Speaker 1: you're turning your back on us and you don't care anymore.
Speaker 1: And I think you might have said that to a
Speaker 1: couple of people, that you're turning your back on this
Speaker 1: show and you don't care anymore. Well, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of guys in the back that I've I haven't totally
Speaker 1: mastered their names yet. It's gonna be easy to take
Speaker 1: goodbye to them. Will actually be hard to take goodbye
Speaker 1: to them. They don't know their names. I gotta hand
Speaker 1: out people want to know, are you handing out most
Speaker 1: valuable Danette, least valuable Danette, most valuable back room guy?
Speaker 1: And then there's a push for the least valuable back
Speaker 1: room guy? I candidate yes, for all the above. I
Speaker 1: will say the back room guys hate Paulie. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a consensus. But all of them, yes, they do
Speaker 1: not like one. Yeah yeah, there nobody is on the
Speaker 1: fence there. But I got to come up with the
Speaker 1: most valuable Danette. Yes, mcclem I hate me. Most valuable
Speaker 1: dan at least valuable Datta. I've always hated it. I
Speaker 1: find it incredibly stressed. Didn't I didn't do it last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't do it because I know you value all
Speaker 1: everybody in the building not as much. I mean not,
Speaker 1: you know, all the same. But I got to come
Speaker 1: up with a I need to come up with a
Speaker 1: most valuable Danette, and I got to come up with
Speaker 1: a most valuable back room guy. I do. And you
Speaker 1: know there'll be bonuses attached to this, as you would
Speaker 1: come to expect. But you got to last the entire year,
Speaker 1: and I probably have to take you out of the running, McLevin.
Speaker 1: And for least valuable Danette, I'll take it. If I
Speaker 1: can guarantee I'm in the middle somewhere, I will definitely
Speaker 1: take it. That'll be my parting gift to you. You're
Speaker 1: not the most valuable, You're not the least valuable dant Okay. Yes,
Speaker 1: you aspired for mediocrity and you achieved it. You're safer
Speaker 1: in the middle of the herd, dan Everyone knows that.
Speaker 1: Yes you do, Yes, you are all right. Pull question, McLevin.
Speaker 1: What do we have so we have a new game
Speaker 1: set or not set? Oh? I accidentally came up with
Speaker 1: this in the first hour. The number of teams that
Speaker 1: are set at their quarterbacks at position and the number
Speaker 1: of teams that aren't set. So we have what is
Speaker 1: the least set? And here are our choices for kay
Speaker 1: the New York Giants not set, Pittsburgh Steelers not set,
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos not set, Detroit Lions not set, Houston Texans
Speaker 1: not set, Carolina Panthers not set. Here's when we weren't
Speaker 1: sure about the New Orleans Saints not set. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna put that up as the poll. How about the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, I'm gonna say not set. And it feels
Speaker 1: like that changes week to week with with the Eagles.
Speaker 1: It feels like there's always a story, a leak that's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, they're not sold on Jalen Hurts or they're
Speaker 1: sold on Jalen Hurts. I would say they're not set
Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts. Miami Dolphins tua to be decided. Oh
Speaker 1: to eat it, Todd, eat it. Thank you, Todd. I
Speaker 1: don't take when I just said and then try to
Speaker 1: make it yours. It was so good at needed repeating. Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes, because I think the Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: situation is still in a state of flux and and
Speaker 1: it's this isn't one of those where something magically happens
Speaker 1: and you go okay, and Deshaun Watson's now available, Like
Speaker 1: Tua has played well and the Dolphins who played well,
Speaker 1: But the Dolphins were supposed to be a playoff team
Speaker 1: when they started the year, at least I thought they were.
Speaker 1: They're playing like that, and Tua has like I don't
Speaker 1: think we've said, oh, two is not playing well. Two
Speaker 1: is playing well, and so are the Dolphins. And I'd say,
Speaker 1: all right, it feels like you're a little more set
Speaker 1: there than It's almost like he's changing people's minds. Yes, Ton,
Speaker 1: it's really up to him the next few weeks. He no,
Speaker 1: no Percy, so bad, so desperate, so desperate, saylo or
Speaker 1: the least valuable don add Yeah, yeah, well done, Todd.
Speaker 1: I played a little hard today. Yeah. I went to
Speaker 1: the doctor yesterday. I got a TETNA shot. They got
Speaker 1: a shingle shot. Both my arms are very sound. I
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have gotten the both the same day, but
Speaker 1: I did. Do you know how sore my shoulders are
Speaker 1: every day staring the program, especially me and I put
Speaker 1: a few pounds on late. Did you tell the truth
Speaker 1: to your doctor yesterday? I answered whatever questions he asked
Speaker 1: I asked, I answered, honestly. I didn't offer up any
Speaker 1: other by the way, you see this giant sub that
Speaker 1: I had. Yes, if he asked me that, I answered,
Speaker 1: But he didn't ask me yet how much exactly working
Speaker 1: out or specifics about my diet. We did the blood pressure.
Speaker 1: We you know, we talked about how the lab work
Speaker 1: came out, and you know, just some suggestions. It was
Speaker 1: really it went to surprising will like a surprisingly great
Speaker 1: rates from safe fun. I don't know why you do
Speaker 1: this that you walk into the doctor's office, you immediately
Speaker 1: take off your clothes and then the doctor says you
Speaker 1: don't have to take Yeah, that's true. I had some
Speaker 1: interesting experiences going up and I thought that's just what
Speaker 1: you do. But but the the interesting part is you
Speaker 1: do it in the waiting room, like you get naked
Speaker 1: in the waiting I did get a few looks. You know,
Speaker 1: you already kind of puts the COVID, You already kind
Speaker 1: of separated. You've separated me even more. Old habits die
Speaker 1: hard yes, poll. The Todds doctor looked him up and down,
Speaker 1: talked to him for an hour and said, everything's fine.
Speaker 1: What kind of doctor is this we're talking about here?
Speaker 1: It might be a little bit quackside. Does he watch
Speaker 1: a show I like going to the doctors and say
Speaker 1: everything's fine. I need that, even if it's not accurate.
Speaker 1: I just need to be able to leave there with
Speaker 1: some kind of peace of mind, even if it's not true. Okay,
Speaker 1: you lie to the doctor. You want the doctor to
Speaker 1: lie to you. He comes in and he opens up,
Speaker 1: you know, his book on me and and I, you know,
Speaker 1: before he comes in the nurses day, I leave like
Speaker 1: a twenty year or a fifty dollar bow on the table,
Speaker 1: just with a little note to make sure he just
Speaker 1: only has good seat. At any point was the phrase
Speaker 1: I could do better about that, or I could be
Speaker 1: better about that one I was something similar? Was that
Speaker 1: mentioned that I had that in my back pocket if
Speaker 1: if I was in that situation. Thankful that is your
Speaker 1: go to line, and it drives me crazy. You could
Speaker 1: really lose a few. You know, that's the last time
Speaker 1: you were here. You put on a couple of the
Speaker 1: path Yeah, I couldn't thank you No, I could be
Speaker 1: better about that. Yeah, yeah, that's his I want to
Speaker 1: could be better than that, Todd, you need to take
Speaker 1: a walk each day, drink a lot of water. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I could do I could be better at that. That
Speaker 1: means you don't do it at all. And now that
Speaker 1: I got this like a neuropathic foot situation, I don't
Speaker 1: know how much you didn't even know neuropathic. I did it.
Speaker 1: I did some googling, which was disturbing. Then he confirmed
Speaker 1: that you may have some kind of and then he
Speaker 1: went out to say, because you have some kind of
Speaker 1: deformity with your feet, what kind of took like a
Speaker 1: shot at me, Well, look at what your feet have
Speaker 1: to support. But like now he's got me, like while
Speaker 1: I was at night staring at my feet while I'm
Speaker 1: like lying in trying to figure out what this deformity
Speaker 1: is without getting like major X rays done. We'll check
Speaker 1: with Rex Ryan. Maybe he can help you out. Sore.
Speaker 1: Oh I should have known back then with a squeaky shoes. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: I love that we saved that. And there's there's so
Speaker 1: many little things that we saved, and you know, like
Speaker 1: this is what we do for a living. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, it's make sure we get dud squeaky. We
Speaker 1: got to record that dud squeaky shoes. Uh yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: How unset are the Detroit Lions at quarterback? I think
Speaker 1: they're unset, unset enough to draft a quarterback number one overall.
Speaker 1: If if you had a great grade on Kenny Pickett
Speaker 1: and and that's really what it comes down to, don't
Speaker 1: take a quarterback. Take a quarterback who has a great grade,
Speaker 1: and if you have him there and he sits for
Speaker 1: a year or two, then you if you think you
Speaker 1: have your guy, don't do what gms do. It feels
Speaker 1: like every draft there's a run on quarterbacks. Let's just
Speaker 1: take one. Yeah, after listen to Jimmy Johnson yesterday. He
Speaker 1: mentioned Detroit and taking a defensive back a few years ago.
Speaker 1: From what Jimmy Johnson says, you can't afford to not
Speaker 1: try at the quarterback position because you're just pushing it
Speaker 1: back a year. You know, if you did, they take
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett and it doesn't work out, well, it's better
Speaker 1: than missing on Kenny Pickett. And Pearl Loss been saying
Speaker 1: this for a while, like you can't afford to pass,
Speaker 1: so like the Lions. Maybe they don't. Maybe Kenny Pickett
Speaker 1: like he shouldn't be number one overall, but can they pass?
Speaker 1: But Jimmy Johnson, he was helping the Lions with their draft.
Speaker 1: They ask him and he said they were talking about
Speaker 1: taking Jeff Akuta from Ohio State, a defensive back, and
Speaker 1: Jimmy said, take Justin Herbert and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: he reminds me of Troy. I take him. And they,
Speaker 1: of course, you know, did not. I know that they
Speaker 1: considered taking tah I was told that by somebody who
Speaker 1: worked there with the Lions that they were thinking about
Speaker 1: taking him. But Jimmy Johnson, football genius draft expert, is
Speaker 1: saying to the Lions who ask for his help, take him.
Speaker 1: If you're the Lions, you call Jimmy Johnson back this year,
Speaker 1: and if Jimmy and Jimmy takes the call, Jimmy'll go, Hey,
Speaker 1: only if you if you do what I say to do,
Speaker 1: will I help you? Because that's where you go. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's uh, oh, Jimmy Johnson would be great to you know,
Speaker 1: pick his brain. Hey, we're gonna take a defensive back.
Speaker 1: Who do you think we should take? Justin Herbert? Okay, thanks,
Speaker 1: Jimmy and the Detroit Lions take jeff a kudah. If
Speaker 1: you like pay then this is the week for you.
Speaker 1: In the NFL, it feels like there are more teams
Speaker 1: hovering around five hundred than ever. Six and seven Eagles
Speaker 1: faced the six and seven Washington Football Team, seven and
Speaker 1: six Bengals take on the seven and six Broncos. Six
Speaker 1: and seven Falcons taken on the seven and six forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers. The five and eight Seahawks aren't really out
Speaker 1: of it. They got a big game against the Rams.
Speaker 1: And then how about the ultimate middle of the road team,
Speaker 1: the six, six and one Steelers. They host the Titans
Speaker 1: in a critical game for their playoff hopes. So it's
Speaker 1: hard to figure out exactly why so many teams have
Speaker 1: reverted to the middle average. Now, you certainly have bad
Speaker 1: teams to beat up on, and maybe it's because there's
Speaker 1: no great elite teams right now. You know, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: were fourteen and two last year and one loss was meaningless.
Speaker 1: That was Week seventeen. We haven't had a team like
Speaker 1: that this year. Instead, a lot of teams are in
Speaker 1: the mix every week, and then you throw in COVID
Speaker 1: and you don't even know who's gonna play, like you
Speaker 1: do need a program, and I don't even know if
Speaker 1: they can print the program in time for you to
Speaker 1: read the program to say who's playing, like the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield probably not, Case Keenum, probably not, Nick Mullins,
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know if they're gonna move games.
Speaker 1: Can they move games? I think what's gonna be crazy
Speaker 1: In a couple of weeks, we're gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: tiebreakers and if this happens, and this happens, then this
Speaker 1: will happen, and get ready for that. Kenny Pickett, the
Speaker 1: pit quarterback, is not going to play in the Peach Bowl,
Speaker 1: which I thought from his answer when he was on
Speaker 1: the show a couple of weeks ago he was not
Speaker 1: going to play. And Kenneth Walker, the great running back
Speaker 1: at Michigan State, not going to play in that same game. Yeah, McLeman.
Speaker 1: Incredibly obvious question. If you're an Eagles fan and the
Speaker 1: spread is now minus ten Eagles, do you have any
Speaker 1: problem beating a decimated Washington football team. Something's up with
Speaker 1: all the COVID protocol you know cases here it went
Speaker 1: from four points to now ten points. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it gets to a point where Vegas takes it
Speaker 1: off the board. But it feels like those who aren't
Speaker 1: going to play, we already know who they are. But
Speaker 1: that one from a four point spread to a ten
Speaker 1: point spread. A couple of phone calls here Robin in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Hi Robin, what's on your mind? Hi? I thank you
Speaker 1: for taking my call. I just want to tell you
Speaker 1: my husband got you got me hooked on your show
Speaker 1: several years ago. Try to watch it all the time,
Speaker 1: love all you. But Todd is my favorite? Oh okay?
Speaker 1: Why why is Todd? Why is Todd your favorite? Robin? Why?
Speaker 1: Even though he jokes, his jokes, he just has a
Speaker 1: personality for me that is just I like, and I
Speaker 1: feel bad for him because everyone picks on him. Is
Speaker 1: his personality similar to your husband? No, not at all,
Speaker 1: be complete opposite. Okay, my husband's really shy, doesn't speak,
Speaker 1: and you would prefer that Todd was like that. No,
Speaker 1: I like Tod just like Okay, all right, Well, thank you, Robin,
Speaker 1: and Merry Christmas. There you go, Tod. That was very sweet.
Speaker 1: Todd accuses Marvin of not putting through positive phone calls,
Speaker 1: and Marvin goes, I just put through the calls. He's
Speaker 1: not to be trust he has an agenda. And I'm
Speaker 1: glad we're exposed. Glad we exposed it. Andrew in Washington.
Speaker 1: Then we'll take a break. Mike Floria will join us. Andrew,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Happy to meat Friday? Guys,
Speaker 1: sounds like you got a wonderful menu today. Yes, hey,
Speaker 1: real quick on that note, I actually have a fan
Speaker 1: vote from Marvin Adds the most valuable back room guy.
Speaker 1: Guy answer in the phone does excellent bits on Peca.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that guy, it's like he has no
Speaker 1: phone calls ever because he's always just so nice. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: are we retiring suck at back Row next week? For
Speaker 1: I've heard this a few times this week. Eat it, Fritzie. No,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a variation of suck at back Row.
Speaker 1: I mean you can choose to just be more specific.
Speaker 1: I would prefer that it was a suck at back row,
Speaker 1: even though Todd's the only one in the back row,
Speaker 1: you know, just out of respect for mclovin's memory. Yes, Todd,
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. It would make me feel
Speaker 1: more comfortable because you know, I like having McLevin next
Speaker 1: to me, and that's gonna be hard enough not having
Speaker 1: him as my back row partner. But if we could
Speaker 1: at least keep the suck at back row alive, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be nice. Yeah, don't. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be specific with Todd. He likes it, so I take
Speaker 1: some of the shrap what he says. That does help
Speaker 1: a little. Absolutely, he's not gonna miss you. He just
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be singled out of sucking share the
Speaker 1: grief with me. Yeah, yeah, absolutely he's not going to
Speaker 1: miss me because he's the least emotional person here. It
Speaker 1: doesn't have a caring bone in his body, which is
Speaker 1: the amazing thing. I know, and it but see I
Speaker 1: would think you cared, but you folk care. Paully just
Speaker 1: doesn't care, right, And I admit it. Yeah, Like I'm
Speaker 1: okay with that. I know Paully doesn't care. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: Like when we come back from vacation, I really don't
Speaker 1: care about your vacation, Ritzy, like how was Maine? How
Speaker 1: was the No, he'll text me during the vacation, just
Speaker 1: want to see if you're having a good vacation. And
Speaker 1: I always say I was until you text me. But
Speaker 1: if I don't get the three dots of you right away.
Speaker 1: Then you're responding feelings are actually keep track of how
Speaker 1: many minutes or hours until you get back. Let's take
Speaker 1: a break. Mike Florio will join us. Coming up next
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Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Greatest rock and roll drummer of all
Speaker 1: time John Bonham. Not a great concert though, because then
Speaker 1: he went on a drum solo and it went for
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes and I went, I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get a beer. Robert Plant, great lead singer, Jimmy Page,
Speaker 1: while he's a great guitar player, not a charismatic guitar player.
Speaker 1: But it was Zeppelin, Yeah, Paul, you see Zepplin multiple
Speaker 1: times or was it on once? How were you just
Speaker 1: out of high school? That was peak Zeppelin defense Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And the Stones I saw them. It was peake Zeppelin
Speaker 1: in the seventies. I saw Stone Zeppelin, Who Bowie and Aerosmith. So,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty good run there of seeing bands when
Speaker 1: they were at their peak, or at least the perception
Speaker 1: was they were at their peak. Yes. Point back in
Speaker 1: the seventies when you went to a concert, was it
Speaker 1: the tradition of they wrap up their set, you clap,
Speaker 1: and they come back out. Was that always even back then?
Speaker 1: They're an encore? Yeah, but we had festival seating and
Speaker 1: that's what was different because you'd line up, you'd get
Speaker 1: there early, and then first come, first serve, which I
Speaker 1: don't know who came up with that, but you have.
Speaker 1: And of course I had tickets to that Fateful night
Speaker 1: when eleven people died in Cincinnati trying to get into
Speaker 1: the Who concert. You know, that's another one of that.
Speaker 1: They had two entrances and people we're storming the doors
Speaker 1: to get in, and eleven people died. Eight seven seven
Speaker 1: three d P Show email and dress DP at Dan
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Speaker 1: poll results. Then we'll get to the pomputer. Mike Florio. Okay,
Speaker 1: which team is least set at quarterback? Your choice is
Speaker 1: being the New York Giants, Detroit Lions, Carolina Panthers, Texans. Oh,
Speaker 1: and we put the Eagles on there, and the Washington's
Speaker 1: on there too, yep. And the winner is the Texans,
Speaker 1: followed closely by the Steelers. Yeah, but we know that
Speaker 1: the Texans are going to have a new quarterback. It's
Speaker 1: when you have a quarterback and you're not quite sure
Speaker 1: if he is the quarterback. So take the Texans out.
Speaker 1: We have to put Washington in. Yeah, because the Saints
Speaker 1: don't feel like they're set. The Giants don't feel like
Speaker 1: they're set, even though they have it. The Lions don't
Speaker 1: feel like they're set. Let's bringing Mike Florio Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk Live co host Football Night in America. More teams
Speaker 1: who are set at quarterback are not set at quarterback
Speaker 1: for the future. Oh more that are. But every year
Speaker 1: now we're seeing this churn of teams who are deciding, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a guy who's good enough, but we can
Speaker 1: do better. We want one of the best guys. We're
Speaker 1: gonna upgrade from the guy we have who's maybe on
Speaker 1: the fringes of the top twenty, and we're gonna go
Speaker 1: try to get somebody better, whether it's through the draft,
Speaker 1: get yourself in position to get one of these rookies
Speaker 1: that comes in and takes the league by storm, or
Speaker 1: make a big play for one of the big names
Speaker 1: it's going to be out there this year, whether it's
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson to Shaun Watson. So I think
Speaker 1: the teams are more willing than ever before to give
Speaker 1: up the bird in the hand, even if the bird
Speaker 1: in the hand isn't all that bad. Well, I wonder
Speaker 1: what the Lions do if Kenny Pickett grades out as
Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback and the Lions are on the
Speaker 1: clock number one pick. You have Jared Goff, but do
Speaker 1: you pass on Kenny Pickett? I think, hey, look, if
Speaker 1: Pickett is the guy and the Lions have that pick,
Speaker 1: I think that's what they have to do. That Having
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford for a decade made much of a difference.
Speaker 1: But this is a team that is trying to completely
Speaker 1: rebuild identity, change culture in a dramatic way. It's not
Speaker 1: just Dan Campbell. It goes all the way to Chris Spielman.
Speaker 1: He's the guy who's kind of the overlooked straw that
Speaker 1: is stirring that drink, the old school mentality. That's where
Speaker 1: the bite your kneecaps comes from. It doesn't come from Campbell,
Speaker 1: it comes from Spielman. So Goff and and that guy
Speaker 1: Goff was the guy that they took on in order
Speaker 1: to get two first round picks and a third round
Speaker 1: pick from the Rams as part of the Stafford deal. Goff,
Speaker 1: you get an extra first rounder if you take this
Speaker 1: guy off of our hands and take his contract. So
Speaker 1: I think they have to be looking quarterback. Goff is
Speaker 1: clearly not the guy. And if pick it is, pull
Speaker 1: the trigger and off you go. I wonder Mike if
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and the Seahawks maybe have a formula that's
Speaker 1: similar to what the Lions and Matthew Stafford had, and
Speaker 1: that is, let's just agree to part. Can you send
Speaker 1: me to one one of these teams and get the
Speaker 1: most in return. Let's work together on this and maybe
Speaker 1: have something behind the scenes where it's amicable sort of.
Speaker 1: And you guys go in your opposite directions. What do
Speaker 1: you think? Well, I agree, and I think that Russell
Speaker 1: has been trying to do that the way that things
Speaker 1: got kicked up last year in the offseason. He comes
Speaker 1: on your show and it's obvious he's not happy. At
Speaker 1: that point, his agent says, my client doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be traded, but if he were to be traded, he
Speaker 1: would accept the trade to the Bears. How boys, the
Speaker 1: Raiders are the Saints. I mean, it's obvious where this
Speaker 1: is going. I think it's premature to start identifying teams.
Speaker 1: I know there was some reporting last week to that effect.
Speaker 1: There's a lot that has to happen before we know
Speaker 1: where coaches are going to be, where quarterbacks are or
Speaker 1: aren't going to be. But I agree with you, the
Speaker 1: time has come for a big decision to be made
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Whether that's we're going to move on from
Speaker 1: the coach and bring in somebody who's hand picked to
Speaker 1: make Russell happy, or whether it's we're going to keep
Speaker 1: the coach and we're gonna let Russell move on, or both.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna hit the reset button and start over.
Speaker 1: And I think what happens the next four weeks, Stan
Speaker 1: is going to be a factor in that because they
Speaker 1: still have a chance to get over five hundred, They
Speaker 1: have a chance to sneak into the postseason field. Much
Speaker 1: different vibe. If that's the end result of this season,
Speaker 1: then what it looked like a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: when they were in crash and burn territory. Any games
Speaker 1: in jeopardy of being postponed, No, absolutely not, because the
Speaker 1: league's not going to do it. They're not going to
Speaker 1: do it. The commissioner said at Wednesday, they are not
Speaker 1: going to postpone these games. And one thing I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find out, and the league is being very elusive
Speaker 1: on this, Shockingly, what is the minimum number of players
Speaker 1: that a team is expected to put in uniform? Forty
Speaker 1: eight is the maximum that you can have on game day?
Speaker 1: You got sixty nine on the roster, So you already
Speaker 1: have a twenty one person buffer. So when I hear
Speaker 1: ten guys on COVID, fifteen guys on COVID, you've got
Speaker 1: the ability to call up all of your practice squad guys.
Speaker 1: You can't still get to forty eight. Once you start
Speaker 1: getting below forty eight, forty five, forty thirty five. Where's
Speaker 1: that number? It's almost like a reverse prices, right game,
Speaker 1: where's that number? Where the NFL says that's not enough,
Speaker 1: where the Union says that's not enough. And would they
Speaker 1: postpone a game if the Browns have fewer than thirty
Speaker 1: players who can dress? I don't know, and the league
Speaker 1: won't say, And part of me thinks, Dan that they've
Speaker 1: got some double secret procedure that they would invoke where
Speaker 1: basically they can pull guys out of the stands and
Speaker 1: put them in uniform to get the games in. Because
Speaker 1: they're getting the games in. That's one thing that's clear.
Speaker 1: They're not giving up the ticket money, they're not giving
Speaker 1: up the TV money. And Dan, this Brown's Raiders game especially,
Speaker 1: it's one of the NFL Network exclusive games. They have
Speaker 1: a minimum number of games that have to be exclusive
Speaker 1: to NFL network to justify the subscription rates for cable
Speaker 1: satellite streaming, they got to have that game on there.
Speaker 1: They are playing these games. The question is how good
Speaker 1: will these games be? How many guys will be in uniform? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure this out. It felt like
Speaker 1: there was a disconnect with the NFL, in the NFL
Speaker 1: Players Association. So what is the solution you think that
Speaker 1: they're gonna Are they able to come to some kind
Speaker 1: of agreement that over the final month of the regular season,
Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do when it comes
Speaker 1: to COVID. Well, they've reached an agreement on the return
Speaker 1: to play ability for a player who is vaccinated, asymptomatic
Speaker 1: and positive. What you need to do to come back.
Speaker 1: It's not as stringent. It doesn't take as long to
Speaker 1: come back. Now. Look, I've been saying for weeks now
Speaker 1: that if a player is vaccinated and positive and totally asymptomatic,
Speaker 1: there's no reason to keep them from playing. We've gotten
Speaker 1: to the point in this pandemic where we can evolve
Speaker 1: our thinking to a point where we say they're not
Speaker 1: transmitting it on the field. Look at all the fans
Speaker 1: in the stands there haven't been outbreaks. Fans are in
Speaker 1: the stands and surely plenty of them are positive. And
Speaker 1: you know how the masks are worn, dip down over
Speaker 1: the chin, and it's not a problem. It doesn't transmit
Speaker 1: in stadiums, it doesn't transmit in domes. It's not a
Speaker 1: problem there. And at some point they need to address
Speaker 1: that because the idea that you have healthy players who
Speaker 1: just happen to be positive for this virus, who are vaccinated,
Speaker 1: that you're just not going to let him play. That
Speaker 1: undermines the integrity of the game. How can it not
Speaker 1: if you're not going to have the best players available
Speaker 1: for reasons unrelated to injury or true actual illness. That's
Speaker 1: where this needs to move in twenty twenty two. I
Speaker 1: doubt that it gets there this year, but that's where
Speaker 1: this has to go, because we know this thing isn't
Speaker 1: going anywhere. Mike Floyal Pro Football Talk Live co host
Speaker 1: who would get a head coaching job sooner? Urban Meyer?
Speaker 1: John Gruden? Which league anfl's coming back? Yeah, Look, I
Speaker 1: think that that it'd be easier for urban Meyer just
Speaker 1: because he didn't leave with that same stain of the
Speaker 1: language in the emails that Gruden had to walk out
Speaker 1: the door basically tattooed to his resume forever. Meyers still denies,
Speaker 1: for example, kicking kicker Josh Lambo. He denies getting into
Speaker 1: a heated argument with Marvin Jones. He denies calling his
Speaker 1: assistant coach as losers. So it's harder to wrap your
Speaker 1: hands around one thing that Urban Meyer did that makes
Speaker 1: him permanently and forever toxic. And he's got I'm looky.
Speaker 1: He deserved to be fired. He never should have been
Speaker 1: an NFL head coach. But he's one of the great
Speaker 1: college coaches of all time. And there's a lot of
Speaker 1: college programs out there, and there's going to be somebody
Speaker 1: that's thinking, hey, we may get this guy right place,
Speaker 1: right time, and he comes in for a final act
Speaker 1: of his career of redemption that makes us a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot of money along the way. This just
Speaker 1: in that Taylor Heinicke and Kyle Allen now on the
Speaker 1: COVID list, So I guess it's Garrett Gilbert who's going
Speaker 1: to be play. This is why that point spread has
Speaker 1: gone from four to ten against the Eagles. This is
Speaker 1: what you're gonna have on National TV. Kyle Schermer is
Speaker 1: another quarterback that they have, Garett Gilbert, one of the
Speaker 1: many backup quarterbacks out there where you can interchange the
Speaker 1: last name in the first name and it all makes sense.
Speaker 1: And when you're down to that level of quarterback, you
Speaker 1: have a problem. But it dan the league doesn't care.
Speaker 1: They don't care that it's going to be a debacle
Speaker 1: of a game. They don't care that it's going to
Speaker 1: be fatal potentially to Washington's playoff hopes. They're not going
Speaker 1: to move that game. They're not going to do anything
Speaker 1: to jeopardize the flow of cash into the conference. It's
Speaker 1: that simple, and it's unfortunate, but that's their current attitude
Speaker 1: and approach, and it just doesn't fit with the current
Speaker 1: state of the pandemic, where this latest variant apparently is
Speaker 1: ridiculously contagious. But also dron Rivera said today on Radio
Speaker 1: and DC that eighty percent of his guys who were
Speaker 1: positive have no symptoms at all. Is there any update
Speaker 1: on Deshaun Watson. There is, and I'm glad you asked
Speaker 1: about him, because he's been forgotten since the trade deadline
Speaker 1: came and went. They're expecting some sort of a resolution
Speaker 1: to the grand jury proceeding by the end of January,
Speaker 1: and that kind of fits with the NFL's offseason timeline.
Speaker 1: Although the quarterback carousel gets started mid to late January.
Speaker 1: We saw it last year with Matthew Stafford. Teams are
Speaker 1: going to start making decisions. It could be misdemeanor charges
Speaker 1: that ultimately were filed against the Shaun Watson, not felonies,
Speaker 1: which would be a difference from the league's standpoint. But
Speaker 1: as to the civil lawsuits, I was told last night,
Speaker 1: and this is how close that the Miami Dolphins came
Speaker 1: to getting to Shaun Watson, because the Dolphins wanted these
Speaker 1: civil lawsuits to be resolved. There are twenty two of them.
Speaker 1: Eighteen of the plainiffs were ready to go. Four of
Speaker 1: them held out, and that's what derailed the settlements, and
Speaker 1: that's what derailed the trade to Miami. Miami wanted them
Speaker 1: all gone. They weren't content to have eighteen gone and
Speaker 1: four left. They wanted them all gone. If those last
Speaker 1: four had come around, he'd be a Dolphin right now.
Speaker 1: But his two wall playing himself into that franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: role here, Tua did what he needed to do. He
Speaker 1: was upset about the ongoing distraction and the talk and
Speaker 1: the chatter and just he wouldn't go away. Well, once
Speaker 1: the trade deadline went away, then the talk ended, and
Speaker 1: Tua has strung one win after another together, and now
Speaker 1: they're going to have a tougher decision to make. You know,
Speaker 1: his durability is what concerns me over the long haul.
Speaker 1: But he's playing better. He did what he needed to do.
Speaker 1: You know what, if you don't like the fact that
Speaker 1: they're talking about Deshaun Watson, go out there and be
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Be better than Deshaun Watson. That's the Tom
Speaker 1: Brady attitude. Get a chip on your shorter and a
Speaker 1: stick up your ass and go out there and play
Speaker 1: better and make them unable to consider bringing in a
Speaker 1: better quarterback because you are the better quarterback. The Mothership
Speaker 1: reported that it's unlikely. According to sources, Diana Rassini's saying
Speaker 1: is that your good buddy Aaron Rodgers won't be back
Speaker 1: with the Packers. I don't know what that means, that
Speaker 1: even if he wins the Super Bowl, that he's not
Speaker 1: coming back. Is this Rogers decision, Packers decision, mutual decision,
Speaker 1: any decision at all. Mike I mean, we entered the
Speaker 1: season as if it was his last year. Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: known this. It's going to take something big to reverse it.
Speaker 1: And like, what, well, I really do? Can you if
Speaker 1: you are Aaron Rodgers and you are extremely sensitive about
Speaker 1: how you're perceived by the fan base, can you win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and say see you later? Maybe you can? Maybe,
Speaker 1: maybe they're fine with it. Hey, thank you, you gave
Speaker 1: us one on the way out the door via condos
Speaker 1: and just don't go play for another team in our
Speaker 1: division or in our conference. I just think that, just
Speaker 1: like with Russell Wilson, the end result to this year
Speaker 1: is going to be a factor in whether or not
Speaker 1: it continues. Now we know next year will be the
Speaker 1: last year because of his contract, because he becomes a
Speaker 1: free agent after twenty twenty two. But we went into
Speaker 1: this year assuming that this is it, and you know,
Speaker 1: the whole the vaccine thing, and I've been immunized in
Speaker 1: the destruction. But they're still really good, and they got
Speaker 1: a glimpse of Jordan Love and I'd want to keep
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I'd want to find a way to make
Speaker 1: him happy and keep him around. I mean, for all
Speaker 1: the headaches that he brings. He's still one of the
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the NFL. Why would you want to
Speaker 1: move on from him? Why would you not want to
Speaker 1: do everything you could to convince him to stick around?
Speaker 1: Why would you want to leave that division? If you're
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? Right? I mean, well, Minnesota is stuck in neutral,
Speaker 1: the Bears aren't good, the Lions aren't good, and you know,
Speaker 1: do I think he ends up in Denver? You know,
Speaker 1: I think they've geared up for this and maybe that's
Speaker 1: where you know he wants to go. But it feels
Speaker 1: like you're gonna have Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: And you know, those are pretty good prizes. If you
Speaker 1: don't get one, you get another one there. But I
Speaker 1: just feel like Rogers is going to be a good
Speaker 1: soldier through everything you asked me to do. And you know, Comember,
Speaker 1: you had guys who cover the Packers on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: Rob Deumovsky covers them for the Mothership, said five percent
Speaker 1: chance he was coming back, and I went, he's coming back.
Speaker 1: The question is how long does he stay? And I
Speaker 1: think we were in agreement even going to be there
Speaker 1: one year no matter what happens this year. Let's not
Speaker 1: rule out this possibility, Dan, that we're being drifted by
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, that he just wants to be the topic
Speaker 1: of conversation, that he wants us to be talking about him,
Speaker 1: that he wants to be the center of attention. And
Speaker 1: maybe he ultimately does come back to the Packers next year.
Speaker 1: And if so, mission accomplished. Hang the banner behind George W. Bush.
Speaker 1: Mission accomplished. Really and truthfully, he is the center of attention.
Speaker 1: We talk about him all the time. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at his toe injury. He's pissed off because people on
Speaker 1: the coaching staff supposedly or telling people, but he's showing
Speaker 1: the damn thing on camera. Every time he talks, he's
Speaker 1: talking about his toe injury. Hey, everybody, I have a
Speaker 1: broken toe. He's almost as bad as Ben Roethlisberger. And
Speaker 1: speaking of Roethlisberger, I mean, I'm intrigued by the Steelers
Speaker 1: as a destination for Rogers because why would you go
Speaker 1: to Denver? Didn't you watch the game last night? They
Speaker 1: got Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert in that division. But
Speaker 1: but boy, the idea of Aaron Rodgers just about one
Speaker 1: hundred miles up the road for me, I could go
Speaker 1: up and have a permanny sandwich with him once a
Speaker 1: week and hang out because you two are buddies. Buddies,
Speaker 1: you can know what's funny. Dan, He and I have
Speaker 1: a lot more in common than he would ever admit.
Speaker 1: I understand him because I'm a lot like him, hopefully well,
Speaker 1: not in the football way and not necessarily in the
Speaker 1: good personality traite way. So you're both know at alls
Speaker 1: exactly exactly Mary you want to see. Yeah, you both
Speaker 1: love to talk about Aaron Rodgers. Yes. Yeah. For business,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you should have seen our numbers for November.
Speaker 1: He's great for business, Aaron I said, I said during
Speaker 1: the height of the whole, I'm immunized and all that
Speaker 1: other stuff. I hope he never retires. I hope he
Speaker 1: stays with the Factors until he's sixty. I hope it's
Speaker 1: every year this drama. He's great for business. Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 1: Great to talk to you. All right, you too, buddy.
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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football the Saints and the Buccaneers. But this
Speaker 1: is tough for Tom Brady because he hasn't done well
Speaker 1: against the Saints. I think he's twenty and five against
Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL since he's been in Tampa,
Speaker 1: oh and three against the Saints. If he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a good game and they might lose, or they do lose,
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, we might have a little
Speaker 1: bit more of a race for the MVP. But if
Speaker 1: Brady wins, they win comfortably and he has a good game, men,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is going to be your MVP. But that's
Speaker 1: a Sunday night on NBC seven Eastern on NBC in Peacock,
Speaker 1: where a football night in America starts. I just saw
Speaker 1: this from our buddy Ross Tucker, who tweeted Heisman candidates
Speaker 1: for both schools playing in a New Year's six Bowl
Speaker 1: game for the first time in a long time. Not
Speaker 1: playing means college football bowls as we know are blank.
Speaker 1: Now they're over because well they're over for the time being,
Speaker 1: because once you have twelve teams in the playoffs, then
Speaker 1: is Kenny Pickett gonna play in a bowl game where
Speaker 1: there's a chance to be playing in a playoff game?
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, the running back at Michigan State, would he
Speaker 1: be playing? So I would say let's hold off on
Speaker 1: that the death of the bowl games as far as
Speaker 1: marquee players. But I certainly understand these players saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to go play in the NFL. I've
Speaker 1: done everything you ask I play in the regular season games,
Speaker 1: and I'm moving on. I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1: This is a business. Why is it that the coaches
Speaker 1: can run it as a business but the players can't.
Speaker 1: And I have a problem with that. And even people
Speaker 1: who had problems with a top recruit going to Jackson
Speaker 1: State for whatever reason, he wants to go to Jackson State.
Speaker 1: It's his reasons, his parents' reasons. You want to go
Speaker 1: play for Dion Sanders, you're defensive back, wide receiver. Maybe
Speaker 1: you're going to cash in financially. I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: You know, it used to be we would go wow,
Speaker 1: these players are playing at historically black colleges and universities.
Speaker 1: Well you know why they played there because they couldn't
Speaker 1: get recruited by others schools. I can question it, but
Speaker 1: I'm not going to judge it. I just I'm just
Speaker 1: curious about it. You know, is there a financial aspect
Speaker 1: to name, image and likeness? Is there a document memory
Speaker 1: that they're going to shoot Maybe it's Dion going to stay.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I would ask That'd be the
Speaker 1: first question I would ask, are you going to be
Speaker 1: there for my career because I don't know if Dion
Speaker 1: could guarantee that. Now I might say, of course I am.
Speaker 1: If I'm at university trying to make a splash, I
Speaker 1: would look at Dion and if you start to think
Speaker 1: about this, with what Dion did, Florida State didn't hire
Speaker 1: Deon Sanders. Sanders one of the great football players who's
Speaker 1: ever played at Florida State. Delon was able to say, bleep,
Speaker 1: you you didn't want me, this is what I could
Speaker 1: do for you. I'm taking your recruit and Florida State
Speaker 1: is down. They needed top recruits, and Dion took him.
Speaker 1: But whatever the reason is, it's it's the reason into
Speaker 1: the recruiting his family. But when we go guy, I
Speaker 1: look at all those guys who came from Grambling or
Speaker 1: Southern or Jackson State, Well they went there because a
Speaker 1: lot of these players at the time weren't recruited by
Speaker 1: these other schools. Now they weren't. You know, integration wasn't
Speaker 1: as you know, that wasn't a front burner, you know,
Speaker 1: the black quarterback. Did Steve McNair have options? I don't know.
Speaker 1: He went to Alcorn State. But I think we get
Speaker 1: into hey, why are you going there? Or that doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense? Okay, but you know I I think
Speaker 1: we look at this and would we be doing this
Speaker 1: for somebody else if if a white quarterback went to
Speaker 1: Remember the quarterback who went to Princeton. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: like a top twenty guy, and we thought maybe I
Speaker 1: think he had Stanford in a couple other places. We
Speaker 1: had him on the show and I just said, you
Speaker 1: know why, and he talked about I'm gonna go at Princeton.
Speaker 1: I get an Ivy League education. And I think these
Speaker 1: these kids now feel like if I'm good, you'll find me,
Speaker 1: and the scouts will find you if they found a
Speaker 1: defensive back at Lenore Rhyne or you know, the School
Speaker 1: of Minds. I mean, you know there's gonna be if
Speaker 1: you're good enough, they'll find you, like Colon Mack was
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. But you you have to be great so
Speaker 1: people want to go and watch you play. Is he
Speaker 1: going to play against great talent? No? Weekend in week out,
Speaker 1: No he's not. But whatever his reason is, it's his
Speaker 1: reason instead of I gotta go someplace, this is where
Speaker 1: he wanted to go for whatever the reasons are. Yeah, McLevin,
Speaker 1: I once made a terrible mistake about School of Minds. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They had a famous coaching Bob Stitt, who helped invent
Speaker 1: the spread, you know. And my friend was telling me
Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, I still understand how the School
Speaker 1: of the Blind as a football team. Oh it was
Speaker 1: because that would be hard. Well I thought it was
Speaker 1: the School of the Mimes. Yes, and you learned how
Speaker 1: to be a mime. And I'm like, damn, they got
Speaker 1: a school for them. I just watched the school, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the College of Mine Minds. They played Valdosta
Speaker 1: State and I watched the rear yesterday. It's the School
Speaker 1: of mind school of mine, a school of mine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I watched them against Valdosta State last night. The
Speaker 1: rehar So when the lineman backs up to block, he's
Speaker 1: like a mime. He just puts his heads out. Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 1: Can we edit this out of the podcast? What I
Speaker 1: just said? Yeah? We can, Yes, trust me, we will.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. Yes. What do you tell your
Speaker 1: teammates if you scrubt mine bad? Is that what you say?
Speaker 1: How about mine? Your own business? He's got a top
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