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Speaker 1: it is. Welcome to another exceptional, amazing, devastating episode of

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Speaker 1: My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we die deep,

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Speaker 1: we work to finally prove that Paul Pierce has the

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Paul Pierce for inspiring so many and I

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Speaker 1: be around a black podcast. Uhuh, well, that's about all

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Speaker 1: all over the world. Yeah, I think if if I

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00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: had to make a guess, it would be Michael Ji

423
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: White would beat the ship out of both of them.

424
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: Billy Blanks probably would be second, and then Wesley Snipes,

425
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: who well what hear me out. Billy Blanks apparently has

426
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: three hundred confirmed winds as a martial artist and was

427
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: once the captain of the US martial arts team like

428
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 1: for the Olympics. He's a he was a legit fighter. Now.

429
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: I did also watch a video of Billy Blanks getting

430
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: knocked out in nineteen eighties something at a martial arts

431
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: tournament on accident. But he seems to have a man

432
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: who He's a man who has a bit of a

433
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: name in the community. Michael Ji White is somebody who

434
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: I've heard multiple people be like, I'm actually scared of

435
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: this motherfucker if he ever decides to uh fight. Wesley

436
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: Snipes is uh real good at kicking. I saw Michael

437
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: Ja right, and one of them healthy eating spots l A.

438
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say the location because I don't

439
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: want to. You know, stars like to eat in the cut,

440
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, for people. But it was like one of

441
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: the most I want to spot to get your avocado

442
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: with your eggs and ship, well, it's a nice place.

443
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: And just I've never seen someone being timidating while eating

444
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: waves Ranchero's eggs, Like like if I was his waiter,

445
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: I would have been scared to go over and say hello.

446
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: Like just and this is Black Dynamite era Michael John White,

447
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: so he doesn't even have to do full kung food

448
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: no more on screen. He just chooses he could have

449
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: got a stunt double for half of that ship. He

450
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: was doing a Black dynam right, Michael John was like, nah,

451
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: I want to kick Yeah, it does feel like at

452
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: a certain point he just wrote that in the contract

453
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: where he was like, hey man, I want to do karate.

454
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: I don't know how you gonna mix that into this story,

455
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna need to kick somebody at some point.

456
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: So that's their internet is mostly filled with that. So

457
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: one of the things that I decided to do was

458
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: that because this story really is rooted in Wesley Snipes character,

459
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: not his acting ability, not like his you know, talent,

460
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: It's more about the character. What I decided to do

461
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: was collect a lot of evidence on Wesley Snipes as

462
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: a person and allow us to make a final decision

463
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: at the end about whether or not we think that

464
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: Wesley had the potential to do what he did in

465
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: tricking Billy Blanks. All right, so, uh, Number one in

466
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: terms of us learning about the Wesley Snipes of the world.

467
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: In Wesley Snipes is accused of physically abusing Halle Berry

468
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: so bad that she lost eighty percent of the hearing

469
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: in her ear. That's number one. That's early in Wesley's

470
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: career that him and Halle are dating and he beats

471
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: the hearing out of her ear. Number two, Wesley Snipes

472
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: gets caught carrying a concealed semi automatic weapon after a

473
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: motorcycle accident in l A, which leads to two years probation.

474
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: The gun apparently is filled with hollow points for some reason,

475
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: because my man's an action start, he needed the good

476
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: bullets in there. Okay, okay. Number I mean, if you're

477
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna have a semi automatic, you may as well have

478
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: hollow points. I am trying to kill you a gun.

479
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't want these to just bounce off. I donned

480
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: trying to merge. Honestly, that's more reasonable all bullets. Hollow

481
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: Points continues. Nineteen ninety four, Wesley goes on a hundred

482
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: and twenty mile per hour high speed chase with police,

483
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: which ends with him crashing his motorcycle, and he claims

484
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: that he never once heard the police behind him for

485
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: the entirety of the thirty mile pursuit. I believe that.

486
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: Do you think he just didn't hear them? Yeah, unless

487
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: they sped up alongside motorcycles allowed, Okay, I don't know.

488
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: You're not buying out with I unders I understand why

489
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: we have to go on this journey through Wesley's life

490
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: to decide whether or not he was duplicited. So it's

491
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: admissible in terms of just assessing character. Continue and I

492
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: think you're making a solid point. I think some of

493
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: the arguments were from his lawyers that Wesley didn't hear them,

494
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: and the motorcycle crash that they claimed that happened was

495
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: actually a bump from the police intentionally knocking him off

496
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: of his motorcycle. They tried to kill the mother. You

497
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Maneuver, Yeah, exact pursuit intervention exactly.

498
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: So you're not a here, you know what I mean?

499
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: These police officers are not heroes in this situation, nor

500
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: are they ever heroes in any situation. But I think

501
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: in particular, the way that you can phrase this, it

502
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: makes it seem as if old Wesley just wouldn't obey

503
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: the law. Meanwhile, these motherfuckers are trying to knock a

504
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: man off a motorcycle at a hundred and twenty miles

505
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: per hour. And that's so, what did he do? Probably

506
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: a couple of fines. They actually decided to just give

507
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: him a single fine for like basically reckless driving, and

508
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: then they let him go about his day because it's

509
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: early in his career. But it's hot, Wesley Snipes, If

510
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Okay, this is where we get into

511
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: the fund stuff we talked about Blade Trinity earlier. Wesley

512
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: Snipes during Blade Trinity sued New Line Cinemas for five

513
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: million dollars after he shot because Number one, he claimed

514
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: that they broke contract in terms of his decision making

515
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: on the editing of the film Number two because they

516
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: apparently did something that fucked with his money because they

517
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: were technically being paid through like Canada and a Swiss

518
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: bank or some relationship, and so he's trying to basically

519
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: not have to pay taxes on money that he's receiving

520
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: from this film, and said that new Line set it

521
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: up that way and then fucked him on that. And

522
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: then lastly, he claims that the director and the writers

523
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: of the film are racist based on an incident on set. Okay,

524
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: now that's not criminalistic, but I get it. It's definitely misbehaving.

525
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: It's he said, they said. I know him and Ryan

526
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: Reynolds didn't get along for the most part on set,

527
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 1: so I'm glad you brought up people not liking him

528
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: on set. I actually pulled a quote from Patton Oswald,

529
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: who was a writer on Blade Trinity. I don't know

530
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: if you knew that, but he also played a go

531
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: in He he wrote Blade Trinity. Uh, and he said

532
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: on set, and I'm gonna quote him here, Wesley Snipes

533
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: was just fucking crazy in a hilarious way. He wouldn't

534
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: come out of this trailer and he would smoke weed

535
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: all day. Then. I remember one day on set they

536
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: let everyone pick their own clothes and there was this

537
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: black actor who was also kind of a club kid,

538
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: and he wore this shirt with a word garbage on

539
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: it in big stylish letters. It was his shirt, and

540
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: Wesley came down to the set, which he only did

541
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: for close ups. Everything else was done by his standing.

542
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: I only did one scene with him, but he comes

543
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: on set and goes, there's only one other black guy

544
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: in this movie, and you make him wear a shirt

545
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: that says garbage. You race this motherfucker? Yo. If that's

546
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: coming from Pad and I got to believe it. Pat

547
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: Oswald is one of the most open and as open.

548
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen Pat Oswald's last two

549
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: specials have, but it's open as he's been about his

550
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: own life. Right, How would he make up this mean

551
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: thing about Wesley's knips given everything that he's explored in

552
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: his own personal experiences? Okay? So is that all of them? Oh? No,

553
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: there's way more. So Okay, maybe I get to the Texas. Okay,

554
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: so there's more, even from Blade Trinity. At one point,

555
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: Wesley pulled the director David Goyer aside and basically asked

556
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: him to quit the production, saying that he was detrimental

557
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: to the project. The director then rebuts that Wesley should

558
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: be the one who quits the production since they already

559
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: got all of his close ups and they don't need

560
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: him anymore. They could just use the stunt double. It's

561
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: speculated it's alleged that Wesley gets uncomfortable and then stop

562
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: speaking to the director completely for the rest of the

563
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: shoot and will only communicate with him through post it notes,

564
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: which he signs from Blade I hope to one day

565
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: as send to this level of things. Oh that's amazing. Yeah,

566
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't doing that with Spike. Yeah, he

567
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: was younger, and but that's what I'm saying. He had

568
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: to earn that psychosis. You had to earn that point

569
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: where you're like, you're not gonna while out on the

570
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: set of Jungle Feet. Now you gotta get there. You

571
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: gotta make that. It was probably that was also to

572
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: be fair, also, Spike Lee SAIDs are probably far more

573
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: inclusive than a major, big budget action sequel. You know, right, Okay,

574
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: keep going. So there's even some suggestions that I read

575
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: that because he's so angry with this director and angry

576
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: with the production, that Wesley snipes for major portions of

577
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: the film. Even during his close ups, will only shoot

578
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: with his eyes closed. That like, they basically had to

579
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: keep his sunglasses on for more scenes than they should

580
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: have because he just won't open his eyes while he's acting. Now, okay,

581
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: so when we start with allegations of physical assault, and

582
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: we've worked our way all the way down to well,

583
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: I heard that he didn't like the food that they all, Right,

584
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: at what point do we draw the line? All Right,

585
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: we got enough to make a diagnosis. Sure, I think

586
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: that we've had enough for a while. But I'll hit

587
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: you with a few more and then we'll make a

588
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: final decision. You know, from two thousand and one, Wesley

589
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: basically didn't pay taxes and then he basically owe seven

590
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: million for tax evasion to the I r. S. He

591
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: goes to jail for it. Right now. He also went

592
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: to Africa during that time and hit, well, we'll stalling

593
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: on coming home to either I'm not sure if it

594
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: was to report to prison or if it was to

595
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: actually face trial for those actually try he just sort

596
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: of tries to do a Roman Polanski type thing and

597
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna chill somewhere else. But he was making films.

598
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: He was legit like Hey, I'm over making a film. No,

599
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: we still it's been a year. Yeah, damn, this is

600
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: the longest film I ever shot. I don't know what's

601
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: wrong with it. It was that type of I got you.

602
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: So when he gets out of jail and this actually

603
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: speaks I think in the opposite direction. He gets out

604
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: of jail, he goes in for seven million dollars. He

605
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: gets out and the I R S is like, a bro,

606
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: you owe us eighteen million, and Wesley sues the I

607
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: R S. He's like, no, are you insane. I'm not

608
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: paying you eighteen million for Where is that money going

609
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: to come from? He says, I'll give you eight hundred

610
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand. That's my compromise to whatever you're asking for,

611
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: and the I R S eventually negotiates it to nine

612
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: point five millions, which Wesley apparently still owes. I don't

613
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: know how it works me neither. They just take a pinch.

614
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: As long as you're making money, they take a pen, right,

615
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: And that's what his claim was, was like y'all just

616
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: making up numbers. Now you're like looking at my career

617
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: and being like, I bet this is what we can

618
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: get from well as a person who has been audited

619
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: by the I R S three times. There is some

620
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: validity to Mr Snipes's allegations in our government does just

621
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: go you jillion bill. And I'm like, what I did

622
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: a college for nine hundred dollars early on, like when

623
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: I first started in colleges and stuff, and this is

624
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: like oh, five oh six. The college paid me nine

625
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, but on the ten nine nine, they didn't

626
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: put a decimal point, so it looked like I got

627
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: paid ninety thousand dollars. And so when you don't claim

628
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: ninety thousand dollars, they call you into the office conversation.

629
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: And I got all my paperwork. I'm not like Wesley.

630
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hide in Africa. Like let's let's discuss this.

631
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: And I'm like, as you can see, all these other

632
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: colleges all paid me, you know, a hundred dollars on

633
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: either side or that's my I either make seven fifty

634
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: or I make nine d n like that's what I

635
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: make for a college. And I was like, let's do

636
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: it for audit. And so once you get audited, you

637
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: essentially get reaudited every two years for like two or

638
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: three more audits. Your your name just keeps coming up

639
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: oddly because they keep flagging your account to make sure

640
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: that you're not trying to claim ninety thousand dollars, right,

641
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: so they just will pull you will literally just get

642
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: a letter in the marriage just go yeah, what's up

643
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: on that three day? Just like we're still looking at you, dog. Yeah,

644
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: And that's fine. I respect, I'm on your radar. Cool,

645
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: but don't just tell me what I Oh, let's have

646
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: a conversation. I will bring you my paced ubs and

647
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: my gas receipts. Man, I had everything. You're thrown away

648
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: young comedians and they say, oh, after seven years, no,

649
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: keep it. I got my tax returns from O two

650
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: just in case, bitch, I'm ready come for me. I'm ready.

651
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: So Wesley, as an attempt to make up for the

652
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: money that he in theory owes to the I R S,

653
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: desides that the best way to do it is through fighting.

654
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you know this. He challenged

655
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan to like a public fight for money, and

656
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan agreed to it. They were gonna square. It

657
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: was Wesley's knipes and Joe Rogan, we're supposed to swear

658
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: off four months yeah, Christmas and Christmas Day and you

659
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: get to watch Joe Rogan and Wesley's nice beat the

660
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: ship out of each other. But then apparently all sorts

661
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: of shenanigans took place that kept the fight from ever

662
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: transpired commissions and all of that, exactly, and so finally

663
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: that would have been a good fight in his current

664
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: career as a sort of man now, you know, making

665
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: the rounds, doing cool movies and popping into things, but

666
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily being the big action star we once knew people, Yeah, exactly.

667
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: But people have been asking Wesley what do you want

668
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: to do with your career now? How are you feeling

669
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: about your career? And his response now is he's more

670
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: focused on dance. He's not at all interested in acting.

671
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: He says he feels more fulfilled in the world of

672
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: dance and martial arts, and in particular, he also has

673
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: been working on a book, uh series, a trilogy of

674
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: books called Only of God that the first book already exists,

675
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: and he has a number of books that he also

676
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: is like, I guess working on and trying to make Okay,

677
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not the right to pivot. He's an OJ.

678
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: So let's go back to the original crime of which

679
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: we're alleging him, which is shadily telling another actor the

680
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: wrong place for an audition. Do you, in fact think

681
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: that Wesley Snipes, given everything that we've now learned about him,

682
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: has the potential to do something that nefarious? I just

683
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: do not think that he would do that to another

684
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: brother coming off of if passage of fifty seven at

685
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 1: the time, this is his first real crossover into mainstream land.

686
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: I just don't know. Man. You didn't come from too

687
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: many black projects at that point, so you know what

688
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: other black actors are going through. You understand the struggle

689
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: of getting to that point made the best man win.

690
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have to audition against a bunch of

691
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: other vets to get New Jack City and to get

692
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: Jungle Feed and to get Sugar Like I am more

693
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: inclined to believe the halle Berry allegations than I am

694
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: the Billy Blake's. Now, if you did one that you've

695
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: done the other. Possibly, possibly, But I am more inclined

696
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: to believe that. And it sounds crazy to say, you

697
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: know that, I am more inclined to believe what Hallie

698
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: said because Hallie also, much like Ryan Reynolds and pad Now, Well,

699
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: she ain't got a reason a lie. I don't think

700
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: the record, but I know that's what that's what the

701
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: streets say about this, So I'm more inclined to believe that.

702
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: But when you look at everything else Wesley did, it

703
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: was anti establishment the government. So I'm gonna speed for

704
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: the government, so I ain't gonna pay my taxes. I'm

705
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: tired of these white people on set, so I'm gonna

706
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: active donkey around these white You can't show me anything

707
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: else in his track record that was just straight up

708
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: platently anti black like that. I think that that's a

709
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: that's a clear good take on this. I think that Wesley,

710
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: for the most part has supported black people, even during

711
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: his most wild and sort of like crazy decisions. He's

712
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: never been anti black. If his behavior on Blade Trinity,

713
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: if that happened, that was in support of the black

714
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: man that was wearing the garbage. He's a man. He's

715
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: not the only other black person on this set. He

716
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: was wearing a shirt that said garbage and he said

717
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: not on the Wesley production. Yeah, that's a tough one.

718
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: That's a tough one, you know. I think that the

719
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: Halleberry allegation puts me on the bubble. But when you

720
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: add gender to an argument about race, does that make

721
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: it a different reason for that transgression? And you also

722
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: look into how some men want to feel powerful over

723
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: women and how a man relates to a woman. To me,

724
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: makes that different from Wesley versus Billy Blank's right, even

725
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: if the Halley stuff is true, I don't feel like

726
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: a man that man who could put his hands on

727
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: a woman would also be the same man that would

728
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: take something away from a black man, as backwards as

729
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: that sounds, just in looking at his if you just

730
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: look at all his transgressions, how many were anti black men?

731
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: And I think to your point, there's an entire way

732
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: of thinking for certain men that, like you, support black

733
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: men at all times, and we sometimes forget that black

734
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: women fall into the exact same sort of need and

735
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: importance for support, and so it's egregious, it's as whole behavior.

736
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Maybe he's one of them

737
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: type two. I ain't studying these women, but my brother,

738
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: the mazing, like you could be pro black man and

739
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: anti black woman. There's a lot of his Sadly, is

740
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people that fall into that bucket. I

741
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: just I don't know, man, I just don't know if

742
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: Wesley did this, man, Wesley, I don't know if Wesley

743
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: did this to Billy Blank. You heard it here first, everyone,

744
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes did not sabotage Billy Blanks. Billy got what

745
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: he deserved by your Tybo DVDs. Because the man is

746
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: living out the life that was meant for him. Google

747
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: how much money Billy Blanks made off Tybo and see

748
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: if you still feel sorry he did good. Billy is fine.

749
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was three digit millions, but

750
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: he definitely in the two digits. I think I saw that.

751
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: Billy is worth like thirty million dollars or something like that.

752
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: I'll take it. The average American only sees three million

753
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: before they die. Yeah, Billy's doing okay, Hell yeah. All right,

754
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break and we'll be back with

755
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: more Wood Jr. And more. My mom and told me

756
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: we are that anyway, We're back here with more of

757
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: My mama told me more Roy Wood Jr. We're still

758
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: we're defending Wesley Snipes at this point, maybe not his

759
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: character as a whole, but we're certainly defending him against

760
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: the possibility that he actually tricked his counterpart, Billy Blanks,

761
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: out of an audition opportunity that would have changed both

762
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: of their lives. I just think that even if Wesley

763
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: did it, there are other people who feel Billy Blanks

764
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: as well. Exactly Wesley is not the greatest criminal in

765
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: this story. I don't I don't think it's true. Man.

766
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: I know this girl's aunt told me this, but you

767
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: know she might have been dealing. This is the nineties.

768
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: They wasn't checking for pt back then. This girl aunt

769
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: came straight from the Persian Gulf War, God blessing, thank

770
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: you for your service, then just started spewing random rumors.

771
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: Are that wasn't her only Wesley Snipes rumor. I'm sure

772
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: she had plenty of others. Because she didn't like the motherfucker.

773
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: She was gonna say whatever she needed to about Wesley's nights.

774
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: That's not fair. That's not fair. It's not fair. But

775
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: you know what is fair is Wesley Snipes is in

776
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: fact writing a book. He's written a book, and he

777
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: has two more on the way. They are entitled Talent

778
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: of God and what I Thought We should Do as

779
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: a fun little game, A fun way to end this

780
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: thing off is. I'm going to read us some excerpts

781
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: from Talent of God, and I just want you to

782
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: give me your general thoughts. How are you feeling about

783
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes as an author? Where are you thinking this

784
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: story is gonna go? Doesn't have the potential to be

785
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: as important in his career as let's say, Blade Too

786
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: Hell yet, So I'm gonna at a little bit of

787
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: a midpoint in the preface because some of this is

788
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: a little long and unnecessary. But he says, uh, spare

789
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: some change for a veteran. Rattle rattle, spare some change

790
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: for his voice faded. Someone had stopped a young black

791
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: man in a heavy black coat with the shiniest shoes

792
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: Lenny had ever seen. That was a good sign, so

793
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: Lenny rattled this cup again, giving the smart looking stranger

794
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: a snaggle to smile. Spare some change for a veteran, sir,

795
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: I can do better than that, the man said, reaching

796
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: into his pocket to draw the crisp folded bill. He

797
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: so rarely got paid paper money, but when he did,

798
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: it was usually good. A five, maybe even ten, enough

799
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: for a hot dinner and maybe coffee tomorrow too. But

800
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: his fingers closed around the money. The man with the

801
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: shiny shoes didn't let go. How are you feeling so far?

802
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: Hard engage? It's moving, it's you know, I need to

803
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: know more about what's happening. Paints a good picture. Sure,

804
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: that's all you need for a book. You know the

805
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: difference between a book and a TV script. It's just

806
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: you just gotta use more adjectives. And the shiny shoes

807
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: clink underneath the path inside the shoe, weary souls of

808
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: feet that have walked a million miles with ten million

809
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: more miles to go. He's just throwing a metaphor that

810
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: lengthens the page a little bit. The corrosion of the

811
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: penny in the cup is a clink, flickles up into

812
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: the end, up his nostrils, nostrils that are not Smiths like.

813
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: That's to me, that's what books are, versus like a

814
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: film script. I'm not chipping on it. I just think

815
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: he did that. I just don't know the whole story.

816
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: I'll pull us up from audible whenever it's done. Okay,

817
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know what genre this is? This this

818
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: young adult You think like sci fi? Jesus, is that

819
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: a possible genre Jesus, it's sci fi depending on who

820
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: you ask. So I'm sitting here just that seemed very

821
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: coherent and written by an educated person. Let's it'll be

822
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: sold in five years and the trilogy will do four

823
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: million dollars or something. Episode you believe in his work, Yeah,

824
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean, people buy books and it's a good time

825
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: to be black. All they're doing is adopting black stories

826
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: and putting them on TV. So why not Wesley Snipes ship?

827
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: So so then I just hope the audiobook is good

828
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of black authors out here reading

829
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: their own books, and I'm like, yo, you should have

830
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: hired someone. I don't read well out loud, So I

831
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: hope they don't ask me. But I think I think

832
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: Wesley will figure it out. I'm sure he can get

833
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: somebody to help him with this ship. What we need

834
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: from him as a damn autobiography because he's lived a life.

835
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: I love that. Let's I want to know everything about

836
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: him pre acting like his journey before you know he

837
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: drifted into Also, I would love if it had like

838
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: some of that Quincy Jones energy, you know what I mean,

839
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: Like if it's just like that raw, untold story, like

840
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: you're let's start snitching Wesley, you know what I mean,

841
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: like really start like exposing some of those deep truths

842
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: that nobody knew about for you in your world. As

843
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: Wesley snipes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with that. We'll see. Yeah.

844
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: So after Wesley Snipes listens to this episode and puts

845
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Speaker 1: a hit out on you, what's your plan? What country

846
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: are you gonna move to? Ghana? Seems cool. My mom's

847
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: moving there and I think got some cool stuff going on.

848
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: I could be I could be Ghanaian. I'll move to Ghana.

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00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: That seems like. Although Wesley was shooting over there, so

850
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: maybe he already has connections. He's got people he could

851
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: get me taken care of in Ghana. I gotta move somewhere.

852
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: Wesley hasn't worked. He was an international man for a

853
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: long time. He's been everywhere. Bro, his passport got all

854
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: the stay. Yeah. I really fucked up. Shouldn't well? I

855
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: should have never invited you. This is all a trapped

856
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: by you to get me to say mean things about

857
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes. Don't point to figuring me. I didn't said

858
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: nothing bad about him. I just stated the fact of

859
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: what her angry told me one time. When I bought

860
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: her niece of shitty Christmas, and that's how we ended up.

861
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 1: I gotta blame that on. I gotta trace this back

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00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: to the conception of my eventual downfall from Wesley Snipes. Okay,

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00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: for some reason, this made the man smile. And what

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Speaker 1: if I were to offer you something better, he asked,

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Speaker 1: reaching his gloved hand inside the heavy winter coat to

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Speaker 1: pull out a small glass bottle filled with a liquid

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Speaker 1: so bright green it almost seemed to glow in the

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Speaker 1: dim light. Something new. Lenny recoiled at once, swearing to himself,

869
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Speaker 1: just his luck, the one bit he got tonight, and

870
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: it was a pusher, unlike a lot out of the

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00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: people he met on the street. Though Lenny didn't truck

872
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: with drugs, he'd had enough chemicals sprayed on him and

873
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: nam to last five lifetimes. Na, man, he said, scooting

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00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: backwards further into the shelter of the bridge. I don't

875
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Speaker 1: touch this stuff. It's free, the man said, tossing the

876
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: green vial casually in his hand. Try it the first,

877
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Speaker 1: It was always free, nah, Lenny said, again, backing away.

878
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm clean, man, I don't do that. But as Lenny

879
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: pushed himself off the pavement to walk away, the man

880
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: in black grabbed his arm. I think there's been a

881
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: misunderstanding that the stranger said softly. This wasn't a request, Yes,

882
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: John for the karate. It's about that's what That's okay. Yeah, yeah,

883
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: I checked this book out of dom Vet, Homeless, getting

884
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: Jesus quizzes on the street, and he just break out

885
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: into karate fire over a green vial of ooze. That's

886
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: not bad. See, I knew where he was going. I

887
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: knew he was going. You gotta give Wesley Stacks. What's

888
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: the Stacker deserves at least to finish one of these

889
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: books and produced that up. Stop playing and let Wesley

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00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: actually make the books that he needs to make, because

891
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: y'all ain't letting the world build. Yeah, man, let him

892
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: content create, man. I'm with it. I love it. Well.

893
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Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch of other stuff about Lenny's eyes

894
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: bugging open and this man fist fighting him in the streets,

895
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Speaker 1: but I think you get the idea. Wesley loves Jesus

896
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: and love sci fi and loves karate and he wrote

897
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: some books about it, so you guys can go check

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00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: it out. It's called Talent of God. I don't know

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00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: what the talent is, but you know, okay, yeah, well

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00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: well yeah, I'll find that on audible. I'll listen to

901
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: the it's gonna be read by the All State guy

902
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: and uh, Lenny asked him politely. He said, do not

903
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: touch me, motherfucker. Get up off me. Dog. Well, this

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Speaker 1: was a great time, Roy. Thank you. Tell everybody where

905
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: they can find you where what course name is roywood Jr.

906
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: Just put it at sign in front of you to

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00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: put a dot com behind it. Hell, you ask me

908
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: everywhere at that dot dot com. Follow the man. He's hilarious.

909
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite comedians working. And it's always uh,

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00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: you can follow me at Langston Kerman. Just add that

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00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: at and put the dot com I'm gonna copy off

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Speaker 1: of Roy just said, it's easy. It's at the front

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Speaker 1: dot com. And then you go, uh and you know,

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Speaker 1: like and subscribe and do all the things you do

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Thank you, Bye bye, chips in your quality racists.

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Speaker 1: Money can't tell me. I look to