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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March nineteenth.

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Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And now a guy who knows when Alabama is in

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Speaker 1: the final four, it's probably time to shut off the

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Speaker 1: PlayStation jafe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome in.

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Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour. We've got a busy hour ahead,

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Speaker 1: or do we It's not a lot going on. We'll

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Speaker 1: do our best the next hour. In terms of Jaguars news,

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Speaker 1: of course, Jeff Logoman returns that, certainly news. He's in

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Speaker 1: studio with us today. Jaguars moves. Oh, there was one

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Speaker 1: after free agency, a handful right before free agency started.

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Speaker 1: But what could be next? We'll dig into that. We'll

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Speaker 1: go around the National Football League as well. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into some Jaguars defensive needs now that they've lost a

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Speaker 1: few players in free agency.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we'll talk to.

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Speaker 1: My Microsoft co pilot and ask how to open the

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Speaker 1: pod bay doors once again. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, afternoon, Happy March Madness. I don't know legally

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Speaker 1: I can say March madness. It's trademark.

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Speaker 2: So is Alabama inn? Sure, yes they are. They are.

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Speaker 1: One of their players is in jail. But other than that, yeah, wow, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: like recently, yeah, like three days ago. No kid, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like their second leading score. High character guy. Obviously, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I don't know. I've never met him.

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Speaker 1: Oh goodness, yeah I was. I walked into the building

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Speaker 2: The mech and TV's are all all on, you know,

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Speaker 2: March Madness. Oh you know it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, multiple TVs, multiple.

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Speaker 2: Games, cool stuff. We actually watched high Point beat.

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin pretty good. I mean, you talk about a major upset.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's funny because I haven't watched basketball all year,

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Speaker 1: either of but today and tomorrow, I ty Point, did

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Speaker 1: you really that was in your bracket? I didn't even

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Speaker 1: know high Point is in I don't even have a bracket,

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Speaker 1: So I'm totally joking there. Yeah, but it's that time

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Speaker 1: of year, and it's on the office, and let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot going on around now. On

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Speaker 1: the football side. They're busy. They're doing pre draft stuff

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Speaker 1: and always evaluating and vett vetting, jap everything.

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Speaker 2: This is vetting.

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Speaker 1: That's not Joe Fortunado vetting. Okay, that is a background

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Speaker 1: researching vetting. Okay, Joe Fortunado is core vetting. A little

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Speaker 1: different there. Yeah, yeah, you know, and and look, uh, oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, isn't that kind of nice to see happened?

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Speaker 2: Vetting right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's important, you know, I mean, especially

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Speaker 1: if you're not going to you know, have guys in

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Speaker 1: to talk to them or whatever. You've got to go

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Speaker 1: through the process of knowing who these guys are. Well, look,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're not gonna I mean, you're not going

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Speaker 1: to find out anything about a guy's background by talking

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Speaker 1: with him for fifteen to twenty dollars. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: incredibly difficult to do. I mean, at that time is

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Speaker 1: better well spent by talking those that are around a

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Speaker 1: player and that are close to a player so that

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Speaker 1: you can make informed, proper decisions, which oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: hasn't always happened around here. You go back to and

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Speaker 1: think about a corner.

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Speaker 2: That the Jaguars drafted.

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Speaker 1: Who is even in the league anymore? Anderson j Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean when he got drafted, it was like.

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Speaker 2: Is he happy? It was kind of you know, here

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Speaker 2: and here's the cret.

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Speaker 1: Falcons, now okay, and uh he was also with the Panthers, Texans, Steelers.

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Speaker 2: And other teams.

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Speaker 1: And when he got drafted, I'll never forget the expression

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Speaker 1: on his face.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, it reminded me of George Welsh.

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Speaker 1: George Welsh, the head coach of the University of Virginia, Okay,

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Speaker 1: great fame coach of the Navy, the Naval Academy, came

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Speaker 1: to UVA, established a winning tradition. Okay, I was there

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Speaker 1: and he was one of those guys. When he got mad,

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Speaker 1: it was looked like a smile. So when I saw

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Speaker 1: CJ's reaction after he got drafted, I said.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe he's like George.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, maybe that's you know, that's a look

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Speaker 1: of happiness for him. Remember, yeah, he was on the

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Speaker 1: couch and his family was around him, and it just

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Speaker 1: you could tell right away, Oh, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable, and maybe a little bit of vetting

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Speaker 1: there would have realized that that's not the guy for Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: I could bring up multiple instances, but I don't want

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Speaker 1: to drum up any muck from the past.

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Speaker 2: We're now, We're coming on a thirteen win season, Lives.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, is that, you know, it's isn't it

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Speaker 1: refreshing to have a regime that's in place that that

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Speaker 1: has a belief system that believes and vetting and doesn't

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Speaker 1: believe a fifteen minute cell job. Okay, let's go look

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Speaker 1: at the Let's look at the Atlanta Falcons from last year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the defensive end that's probably gonna end up in jail

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Speaker 1: from Tennessee, what's his name got in legal trouble. He

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Speaker 1: was got felony charges against him for some stuff against

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Speaker 1: his girlfriend who is a WNBA player and love James Pierce.

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Speaker 1: James Pierce. So the Falcons draft an outstanding linebacker on

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Speaker 1: round one. They trade back up in around one to

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Speaker 1: get James Pierce. If they had spent their fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: vetting James Pierce, they more than likely would have discovered

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Speaker 1: instead of doing an interview with them, they would.

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Speaker 2: Have discovered that there may be a history there.

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Speaker 1: Well, all right, let's get into that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Because in order to properly vet candidates or players or

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Speaker 1: prospects or whatever it is, you got to have a

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Speaker 1: system in place. You have to have strong scouts on

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Speaker 1: the ground that have contacts at all these places. Correct

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Speaker 1: they can talk to all these corrects and trust that

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Speaker 1: they're telling you the right thing too. And if you

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Speaker 1: have scouts else that don't have those relationships, get them

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Speaker 1: out and find some that can develop that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because look, if you can't be a trusted ear so

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Speaker 1: to speak, in the scouting business, then you're not pulling

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Speaker 1: your weight. You're not doing your job. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: have to develop and build relationships at the college level

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Speaker 1: so that when you go into a program or programs

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Speaker 1: that you get the straight skinny. You don't get a

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Speaker 1: sell job. Hey, look, we want our player, our alum

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Speaker 1: to get drafted high because it helps us build the program.

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Speaker 1: You want the straight scoop. And that's where the area

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Speaker 1: of scouts are so key. I mean they live in

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Speaker 1: different parts of the country and they'll have the Pacific

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Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why, okay that I think

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals are flawed in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: Get sidetrack just for a minute here, because we're taking

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Speaker 1: shots at other teams. Well I'm not taking shots that

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Speaker 1: necessarily teams, but just as an example of the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals have a very small scouting staff and they rely

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Speaker 1: also on their coaching staff to do some of that work.

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Speaker 1: Coaches don't have the time to do the vetting, build

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Speaker 1: a relationship. They got a coach and the scouting staff

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Speaker 1: for the Bengals has historically been the smallest in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. And that's not necessarily a criticism. But

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Speaker 1: when you're investing millions and millions of dollars, Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: having a salaried scout maybe three or four extra ones

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Speaker 1: on the payroll for seventy eighty ninety hundred thousand, whatever's

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Speaker 1: going to cost you can save you millions down the

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Speaker 1: the quality job being done by the scout to develop

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Speaker 1: the relationship, to find the information out about potential prospects

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Speaker 1: so that you can culture build and not make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: They're going to cost you money down the line. If

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Speaker 1: James Pearce never plays another snap for the Atlanta Falcons,

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons are out millions millions of dollars that

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Speaker 1: are guaranteed to James Pierce that they cannot try to

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Speaker 1: recoup according to the contract that he assigned. For example,

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Speaker 1: I'm on the Jaguars site right now. Jaguars have a

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Speaker 1: director of College Scouting and then nine people listed as

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Speaker 1: college scouts, and they're all over the country, like I said,

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Speaker 1: different regions. It's just how that works. And then of

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Speaker 1: course there's pro personnel and pro scouts different animal but yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're spread out everywhere.

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Speaker 2: You want to have people.

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Speaker 1: The lad of Scouts have been on different staffs around

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Speaker 2: It's not like these guys are new.

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Speaker 1: And you want to have somebody that can walk into

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Speaker 1: in the film so to speak. Yeah, right, right, it's

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Speaker 1: about the stuff that's away from the film, right. The

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Speaker 1: That's what they all lead on anyway. In terms of

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Speaker 1: That's part of the scouting process. That's why that a

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Speaker 1: lot of the work that's going on right now that

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Speaker 1: people think, oh well, it's the dead zone and the

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Speaker 1: National Football League free agencies kind of passed and you know,

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Speaker 1: until it gets to the college Draft, it's dead, Zoe.

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Speaker 2: Well it's not dead, zo.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all the work is being done behind closed

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Speaker 1: in April, they're going to be the best possible selections

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Speaker 1: for this organization that they can be. It is Pro

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Speaker 1: day season as well. I have a feeling though there's

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Speaker 1: not as much of it. Like they didn't emphasize the

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Speaker 1: and probably watched them. There's some scouts there maybe, but like,

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Speaker 1: give me the numbers. It's fine, you can give me, give.

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Speaker 2: Me the numbers and you know what, JP, I can

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Speaker 2: watch it.

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Speaker 1: It's all it's all video everything, every everything that they do,

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Speaker 1: the camera here from it, they stand up in front

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Speaker 2: Yes they are. They're wearing underwear.

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Speaker 1: Even they even film that, Yes they do.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of weird. It's a little strange.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of weird. It's very weird, just saying I

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Speaker 1: don't do that at combine. The weigh ends anymore and

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Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, they do the way to do the

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Speaker 1: height the waight, and then they they seriously they they videotape.

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Speaker 1: They have the player kids, you not because then they

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Speaker 1: did this back when I did it, and it's still

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Speaker 2: So the player goes, they do the height, they do

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Speaker 2: the weight, and he's wearing.

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Speaker 1: You know, kind of like tights, right, like slider shorts

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Speaker 1: kind of deal, right, exactly right, okay, And they get

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Speaker 1: They have a on of the shorts and they stand

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Speaker 2: As far as to like why Jacksonville, I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: Where's Rodriguez from?

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Speaker 1: And I know he went to go to Kentucky, Kentucky, right,

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Speaker 2: Where's he from.

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Speaker 1: don't think that well. And it's been backed by another

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Speaker 1: executive in the league, which you know, I think it

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Speaker 1: would have some support. And I would be very scared

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Speaker 1: of that because now you would essentially have an executive

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Speaker 1: running your team that can screw up your team for

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Speaker 1: more than just three years. I don't know if I'd

442
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Speaker 1: want to have that. But going back to the compensatory

443
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Speaker 1: pick thing, I think that a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: realize this, but I thought that this was a masterclass

445
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Speaker 1: by James Gladstone this past year when it came to

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Speaker 1: the Tyson Campbell trade for Greg Newsom.

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Speaker 2: And here's why.

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Speaker 1: Would you say that it was maybe a draw about

449
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Speaker 1: the level of play Tyson Greg Newsom right ballpark.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean Tyson started out hot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it had a small sample size of Greg Newsom,

452
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Speaker 1: but right, but I mean level production was about the same. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you could make the argument at the beginning

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Speaker 1: Tyson was was on fire early on for the for

455
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and then Greg kind of started slow,

456
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Speaker 1: and everybody's like, wow, I don't know about that trade.

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Speaker 1: The I think the real importance of that trade was

458
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Speaker 1: twofold one. You traded a player for a player, and

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Speaker 1: you you traded away a high salary guy in Tyson Campbell,

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Speaker 1: brought in a guy that wasn't as high and Greg

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Speaker 1: Newsom was on an expiring contract. Tyson Campbell was not.

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Speaker 1: So you traded a player for a player, so you

463
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Speaker 1: got less pay out for Tyson Campbell because Greg was

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Speaker 1: cheaper and Greg's contract was expiring. Greg signed with the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I believe it is you may end up getting a

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Speaker 1: compensatory pick for Greg Newsom signing with the Giants. I mean, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and it's a very small example of how

468
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Speaker 1: I think that James Gladstone gets it and it probably

469
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Speaker 1: goes over the head of a lot of fans. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be critical of any fans in

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Speaker 1: their understanding of anything, but it does.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes these.

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Speaker 1: Things are are hard to recognize and hard to preciate.

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Speaker 1: But I mean that I thought was it was a masterclass.

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Speaker 1: Now looking back at it, going through the history of

476
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Speaker 1: the first year of that nineteen ninety four draft, first

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Speaker 1: year of compensatory picks, and here's some of the names

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Speaker 1: that were compensatory picks that year. There was a first rounder,

479
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Speaker 1: Derek Alexander, wide receiver out of Michigan for the Browns.

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Speaker 1: In the second round, there were a number of compensatory

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Speaker 1: about five of them Falcons, birda manual wide receiver, a

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Speaker 1: rice Larry Allen, the guard for the Cowboys, the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way I played against him, he's pretty good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That was forty sixth overall second bench press like six

486
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Speaker 1: hundred pounds set by the way side note you've seen

487
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Speaker 1: on YouTube, there's the drive that the Cowboys had. I

488
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Speaker 1: forget a year, but it's the Larry Allen drive where

489
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Speaker 1: he's pancakes a guy he pulls and and John Madden's

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Speaker 1: on the game and he just laughs at the touchdown

491
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Speaker 1: because he pulls and takes a guy out of the screen.

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Speaker 2: I mean that there was that's that drive.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of guys that when they pulled

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Speaker 1: that that you didn't really kind of do a double take.

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Speaker 1: But when Larry Allen pulled and he was coming your way,

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Speaker 1: it was like, oh, it was one of the I

497
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Speaker 1: think they were play of the Colts maybe, but the

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Speaker 1: guy lined up against him, and he was playing left

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Speaker 1: guard that day. The tackle lined up against him at

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Speaker 1: one point just like went straight on the ground and

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Speaker 1: just like, I'm not getting him on my pads, I'm

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Speaker 1: not letting Larry Allen get underneath he was. He was

503
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Speaker 1: subbed by the way, just real quick on. Larry Allen

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Speaker 1: one of the strongest human beings.

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Speaker 2: To ever play guard ever.

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Speaker 1: And when he played tackle, now he had to be

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Speaker 1: in space a little bit, and he did play a

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Speaker 1: little bit of tackle, but that was not where he belonged.

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Speaker 1: I played against him when he was at tackle, and

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Speaker 1: he was he didn't put the fear of God in me,

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Speaker 1: But when he was at guard, the fear of God

512
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: was in a lot of people, and he could also

513
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: run too, by the way. He chased down guys down

514
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Speaker 1: the field on turnovers and that kind of thing. So

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Speaker 1: he was he was like the most well built guard

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Speaker 1: in the NFL history. I mean, if God was ever

517
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Speaker 1: going to design a guard, that was Larry, John Hannah

518
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Speaker 1: and Larry Allen, no doubt. Thomas Ranolf Corner for the

519
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Speaker 1: Giants was another compic that year, and our friend Bucky

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Speaker 1: Brooks comppicked Tabos in the in the second round of

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Speaker 1: ninety four. Toby Wright another safety for the round second

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Speaker 1: round compensatory pin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, I think these early couple years they were awarded

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Speaker 1: in different ways than they are now. Like there's a

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Speaker 1: second round compenstory pick. Nowadays it's it's changed. I think

527
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Speaker 1: in like ninety six, I think it changed a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But just there's the history of that. Let's come back.

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Speaker 1: We've got to figure out Jaguars defense LOKs cause there's

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Speaker 1: been some changes.

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Speaker 2: There will be some change.

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Speaker 1: So lost Devin Lloyd three year, fifteen million dollars per

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Speaker 1: year contract to go to the Carolina Panther. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: not here anymore, by the way, so what are they

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Speaker 1: gonna do. We'll figure it out. Maybe when we come

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Speaker 1: back on ten Toxlam, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back, it is Jaguars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: JP Shadwick with Jeff Logman. Glad you're with us on

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Speaker 1: tenen Xlam, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. March nineteenth,

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00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: closing in on the NFL annual meeting in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. That's the owners meetings and then April's here

542
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: and it is pro DA season right now. But you know,

543
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: Jaguars only made one signing and free agency true free agency.

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00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in the coming weeks if they

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00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: added any more to that. But logs Our attention turns

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00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars defense because this is where the Jaguars

547
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: have lost some pieces and they could have some changes

548
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: coming up in this twenty twenty six season. Of course,

549
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd is the most notable. Andrew Wingard's gone, Greg Newsome,

550
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 1: the corner has gone. They have resigned Dennis Gardak, who

551
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: had some key contributions on defense. I like that They've

552
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: got a bunch of guys coming back. There's some gentlemen

553
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: on this team. Getting a little bit older, now too, right.

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00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean Jordan Lewis coming off an injury, he's.

555
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: What, yeah, but he's fine.

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Speaker 1: He's he's still got many years, many miles left on him.

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Speaker 1: Same for Fourier, Right, He's going into year nine in

558
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: the league. He still plays like a young man. His durability,

559
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: he still has been impeccable. And one of the guys

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Speaker 1: that I'm excited to see come back is Buster Brown. Yeah,

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00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: Montaria eleven million a year man, which kind of goes

562
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: a little bit under the radar, but he's been very consistent,

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Speaker 1: very dependable, and when you have guys that are consistent

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Speaker 1: and dependable, then I think you can put him in

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Speaker 1: positions of success. And that's one of those guys that

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Speaker 1: you know, he's earned his way. I mean, you got

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Speaker 1: to remember, now, he started out as a seventh round

568
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: pick and just kind of kept his mouth shut and

569
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: went to work. And even when they had different regime changes,

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Speaker 1: he you know, would fall out of favor a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but then he would gain favor because he just was

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00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: the same guy all the time. And that's what I

573
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: appreciate about him. And he is a physical, willing tackler,

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Speaker 1: which sometimes is hard to find at that position. Gladstone

575
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: was in with us last week and we asked him

576
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Speaker 1: about you know what stood out the most, and he said,

577
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Speaker 1: go look at his head shots the last four years

578
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: and see how physically he has changed, Like his neck.

579
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Speaker 2: Is bigger, he's been in the weight room.

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Speaker 1: He's really dedicated himself to becoming a stronger player. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think I'll pass up on looking at the headshots

582
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: okay over the last couple of years. But but the

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Speaker 1: thing I appreciate about him about Monteric Buster, and remember

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Speaker 1: he likes to be called Buster, is that whatever he

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Speaker 1: wants if he plays like he did last exactly and

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Speaker 1: he likes he likes to be called Buster. I asked him,

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Speaker 1: I said, what do you what would you prefer to

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Speaker 1: be called Buster Monterak? He said Buster. I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: well then you're Buster. And Buster's done a great job

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Speaker 1: I think at at the point of attack, which has

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Speaker 1: really impressed me, and I think it's one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons why they feel really good about him is because

593
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Speaker 1: of the way that he plays the game in physical

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Speaker 1: fashion and he's I think this this system really fits him,

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good fit.

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00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: He's a he's a very very good zone player, and

598
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: he can play man as well, so.

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Speaker 2: He's got some flexibility to him.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna get a solution right now from

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Speaker 1: Jeff Flagman on March nineteenth. What are you doing to

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Speaker 1: replace Devin Lloyd drafting a guy not Ventro Miller? Well, look,

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Speaker 1: I mean Jack McLeod who was injured all last year. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think that there's a chance that those guys could

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Speaker 1: be that guy. But you know, if I'm James Gladstone,

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Speaker 1: I'm not counting on it. I'm going to go draft

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Speaker 1: another guy. I want to draft a guy that can

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Speaker 1: run and cover. And that's just I mean, that's the league.

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Speaker 1: It's a passing league. And that was I mean, I

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Speaker 1: hate to say this, but I mean as good as

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Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd was, that was his weakness at times was coverage.

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Speaker 2: And that's one of the.

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Speaker 1: Reasons why you saw him going forward in games a

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Speaker 1: lot of times, because that was more of his strength.

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Speaker 1: And so by playing to his strength, you also covered

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Speaker 1: one of his weaknesses, which was playing in space. Even

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Speaker 1: though look, people say, well, how about the ninety nine

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00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: yard touchdown at Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 2: You're right, you know, he executed it. Perfectly.

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Speaker 1: But you know, he stepped two yards back and made

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Speaker 1: the play. It wasn't twenty yards down the field, down

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Speaker 1: in and down out. That's not his strength, no, okay,

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Speaker 1: his strength is being physical at the point and being

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00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: an attacker of the line of scrimmage, and Blitzer just

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00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: fast reads.

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Speaker 2: And giving credit on that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they scouted that play, they looked at it,

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00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: they knew the idea was going to come, and he

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Speaker 1: reacted well, great, great execution. And I would also say

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Speaker 1: that if you listen to Devin Lloyd talk about that play,

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Speaker 1: you also come away with it going.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, it's really good coaching too, a really good scheme. Yes, yes,

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00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: all right, so credit to go around there.

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Speaker 1: But look, wish nothing but the best for Devin Loyd

635
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: because again he's in the same mold of ETNA. I mean,

636
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: these two great guys, great guys. You know that JP

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00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: talked to him a million times, right.

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00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: And he talked to these guys and you know, just culture.

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00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: By the way, that side note you mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 1: did you see his press conference with the Saints the

641
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Speaker 1: other day?

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00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: I heard a few bits and pieces.

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Speaker 1: So his last name apparently is pronounced h n h

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Speaker 1: A ten h like A H T E n A

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Speaker 1: y h A n hn okay. And he never told

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Speaker 1: anybody that they kept getting wrong, like the first year

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00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: as a freshman at Clemson and he was like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, just call it like it looks E T

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Speaker 1: N A. Never corrected anybody, okay until the press conference

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Speaker 1: the other.

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Speaker 2: Day, never to was here.

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Speaker 1: All the conversations we had always you know, we just

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Speaker 1: went with ETN That's just always what it was. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's that Uh, it's the same kind of thing I

655
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Speaker 1: think with Danny strigo trig al strigo.

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00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: It's strigo.

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00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: It's trigo, asking isn't but it's strigo. Yeah, but there

658
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: are those in the building that call him strigg out.

659
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: That's not right.

660
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't care what so like, as

661
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: another four or five years from now he signs to

662
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: go somewhere else, he's gonna go somewhere and say, you know,

663
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: they've been calling me strag out forever in Jacksonville, but

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00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: it's actually strigo anyway. Patrick o'cerrey is another one mcarry's.

665
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: How it's supposed to be said, how mcarrey as opposed

666
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: to McCarry is wrong.

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00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: It's not a car No, it's a car I care Mcarrey.

668
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: I like that.

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00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, names fun with names. I care about how his

670
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: name is pronounced.

671
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: It's McCarry.

672
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Speaker 1: So all right, you're gonna draft a weak sidelinebacker to

673
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: replace Devin White and then.

674
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Speaker 2: I don't know where though, I don't know which. Wrong.

675
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: We haven't got into that yet.

676
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: It's too We've got a lot of time.

677
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Speaker 2: You might pick one in the first do you think so? Huh?

678
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: With the non existing pick, what about defensive tackle?

679
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: Need one?

680
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do there? They've got obviously players

681
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: back Armstead, Hamilton's second round pick, Mason Smith, he hasn't

682
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: done much. Second, you're gonna go high with it? You might, Yeah,

683
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: you might go high with that very well. Could I

684
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: think second or third round? I mean, and I don't know,

685
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm completely wrong, but it has to fit

686
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: at the spot. You got to have quote unquote value.

687
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: I left out Matt Dickerson too. He had some flash,

688
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: solid physical, tough, hard guy to move. But the reality is,

689
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got an aging Eric Armstead and you

690
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of pass rush besides him on

691
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: the inside. You gotta find something. And if you're going

692
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: to find it. You're gonna have to find it early

693
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: in the draft. I mean, and you don't have a

694
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: first round pick. That's why I said second round pick.

695
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: And if if the value is there, then I think

696
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: you got to you got to take it.

697
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: And if not in.

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00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: The second then I think definitely the third. I mean

699
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: that's a it's a premium position.

700
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: But you can find him. I mean, guys can that's

701
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: hard to find? JP. I you one example. I'll give

702
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: you one example. It's close that you'll know this. You're

703
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: going to give me an example of what.

704
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: Of a later round defensive tackle who turned out to

705
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: be an impact player.

706
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you one. It could beat you.

707
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: Go first, Malik Jackson, fifth round draft pick, obviously kept improving,

708
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: got better, had the big contract free agent. Here you go, right,

709
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: I'll give you another one. John Randall. Yeah, I would

710
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: say he's pretty good too. Those are few and far between.

711
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: Is not impossible, few and far between. A chance you

712
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: know it's somebody, Okay, the higher in theory, it should

713
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: be a ready made player. The higher guys that throw

714
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: the ball right, guys that catch the ball, guys that

715
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: protect the guy that throws the ball, the guys that

716
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: attack the guy that throws the ball and the guy

717
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: that stops the guys from catching the ball. Those are

718
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: the premium position. That's the order of the guys that

719
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: get after the guy that throws the ball. Okay, pass

720
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: rushers amium position. Edge.

721
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: Whether it's edge or whether it's interior, that's a premium position.

722
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: And it gets drafted like crazy, as it should, and

723
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: people take gambles.

724
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Take a look at the Falcons with James Pearce. Okay,

725
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: I don't want the jagg I'm not saying the Jaguars

726
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: should do that, Okay, to get an interior pass rusher.

727
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: That's not in their belief system anymore. Okay, JP, just

728
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: just just just throw that out that that thought doesn't

729
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: exist anymore with this organization.

730
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: They're not going to do that. Not gamble.

731
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: They're not going to gamble with character, not not in

732
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: round two, not in round three, maybe round seven, you know,

733
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: and then that way, if it doesn't work out, it's

734
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: no loss, cut day, bye see you lucky to make

735
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: the team anyway.

736
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: You know. Don't let the door hit you in the.

737
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: We're in I was gonna say, what are you gonna say?

738
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: You know, but I mean, it's I believe that that

739
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: will be a and we're doing a radio show, I

740
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: believe on Friday of the draft issue.

741
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: So that's what I heard the other day.

742
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how official that is or how public

743
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: that is yet until right.

744
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: Now I'm hearings. That's what I'm hearing.

745
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: Sources say there could be a Friday night trash show

746
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: because the Jags are not They're twiddling their thumbs on

747
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: Thursday right now, not doing anything. Well, I mean, they

748
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: could move up, but I mean the chances of that

749
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty difficult.

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00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: You know.

751
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: You know what A source just informed me as well

752
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: that as a person who likes wings, you're gonna be

753
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: very happy where.

754
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: The show is.

755
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: Is that is, mister?

756
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: Isn't that special? Isn't that something? Dad? Gummet? I can't wait?

757
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: You know who's not going to be there? You me

758
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 2: right here in the studio. That's right, You'll be the studio.

759
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Are you going to be like will bring us like

760
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: Monday night? Are you going to get us interviews with?

761
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: I heard that's the idea probably, yeah. You know the

762
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: one part I like about that? How many rounds do

763
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: they do on Friday night? Friday is the last four rounds.

764
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: It's uh, Friday's two rounds, second and third, second and third,

765
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: that's right, And Saturday is the last round and it's

766
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: a little faster, right, And how many picks of the

767
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: Jaguars having round two and three combined, they're asking question

768
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: they have eleven total picks. Well, I know that there's eleven,

769
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: but I mean in round two and round three, is

770
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: it only two or three?

771
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: It's three or four?

772
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: But I mean the reason why I like that is,

773
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: first of all, you have two rounds instead of one

774
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: to cover on the radio, and you're still talking about

775
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: premium players. Round one, round two, round three should be

776
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: starters for your team. And I like the fact that, Okay,

777
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: now we have more picks to talk about, and with

778
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: the Jaguars not having a first round pick on that

779
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: show on Friday, you can talk about the previous day

780
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: and then there's always a lot of action at the

781
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: beginning of Day two in the NFL draft, and the

782
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: Jaguars have picks. Yeah, Jaguars currently have a second round

783
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: pick and three third round pick. Bingo, bingo, we're talking

784
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: about four picks with our mister Chubby's draft broadcast.

785
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 2: Well, I even have.

786
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: Time to eat wings with you better get it in

787
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: the second round because the third round is going to

788
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: be busy.

789
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if we can get you to like cover

790
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: from here and talk to Frank for five to ten minutes,

791
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: that'll give me some wing time.

792
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you need to think. This is what

793
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: you need is wing time.

794
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: That's what we're looking for out of you. Wing time.

795
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment.

796
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to the computers blogs. Are we

797
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: talking to AI? Well? AI is talking to us? Okay?

798
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: I mean I had to type it in, type in

799
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: to have AI tell you.

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00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: Well, we'll find out when we return. God, how about

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00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: that ten to excel Amjaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube. It

802
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back. Final moments of Jaguars

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00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: Happy Hour on this Thursday, March nineteenth. JP Shadwick, Jeff Floggman,

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00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: Glad you're with us with Honday Studios inside the Miller

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00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: Electric Center. Ten tonightslam Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube. It

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00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: is time to get Microsoft Copilot to help us with

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00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: a current Jaguars defensive lineman and his contract situation. So

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00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: we asked Microsoft co pilot today, What is Trayvon Walker's

809
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: contract situation? Well, the answer Trayvon Walker still in his

810
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: rookie deal with the Jaguars running through the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six season, with unrestricted free agency scheduled for twenty seven.

812
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: His contract is fully guaranteed. The team has already begun

813
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: exploring extension possibilities based on recent reporting. Go check out

814
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: Microsoft Copilot. It'll give you all the answers. Can you

815
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: ask Microsoft Copiloto? You and Pete Priscoe want me to

816
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: ask extra questions? Ask ask the Microsoft Copilot. Okay, what

817
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker should be paid on a future contract?

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00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: Hey, it's a great question.

819
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: Usually it's Pete prisco Why did he go for it

820
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: on fourth down? Why are these coaches morons? That's usually

821
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: what Pete wants.

822
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: Me to ask. No, no, no, no, I'm serious. I'm curious.

823
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: Just the question what Trayvon Walker? What contract?

824
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: What kind of a contract would Trayvon Walker or should

825
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker receive as an extension.

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00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: We do with this live radio. This is great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that that would be curious,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, we were just talking about

829
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Speaker 1: how AI is kind of just changing the world it's

830
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: a little scary to be honest with you.

831
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Speaker 2: All Right, here we go. All right, here's what it says.

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00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: I gave you an answer.

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00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: This is a live answer right now. Trayvon Walker is

834
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: the answer.

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Speaker 2: Quote.

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00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker is trending towards a major second contract, likely

837
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: a top of market ed rusher extension. Based on his draft, predigree, production,

838
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: and current reporting. The most credible projection suggests a deal

839
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: the twenty five to thirty million dollars per year range

840
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: was seventy to ninety million guaranteed, aligning him with other

841
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: young ascending pass rushers.

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00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: See.

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00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: I like that they reference Sporting News as some of them.

844
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: So see, but there's a little little there's a little

845
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: conflict in what Microsoft copilot says here. Okay, they say

846
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: top of the market, but then they say twenty five

847
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: to thirty Usuly the top of the market is in

848
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: the forties. Now, yeah, as an edge rusher, but I

849
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: think that that's where Trayvon's value is. Is that twenty

850
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: five to thirty But the question mark is is that

851
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: his belief and that and also his representation. Do they

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00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: believe that that's where he needs to be or should

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00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: he be higher?

854
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: Than that.

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00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you want to try to get as

856
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: much as you can because look, it's a it's the NFL,

857
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: which means you're not going to make that kind of money,

858
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: not for long, so you need to get it while

859
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: you can think about how he played last year through

860
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: all the injuries yet and that's he was beat up.

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00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: I mean, he was beat up. So if you were

862
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: going to value his future contract based on last year,

863
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be where in that you know, that higher

864
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: end range because his puduction dropped a little bit because

865
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: of the different injuries that he had. But you have

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00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: to give him some credit for the things that he

867
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: played through and always being there for the team. There's

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00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: value in that that you have a player that's willing

869
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: to play a little nicked up and then will always

870
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: be there and is dependable.

871
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: And then reality is is that he was banged up.

872
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: But he also made some plays he did with one hand.

873
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: You know, and especially in the running game, he made

874
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: some big time plays. Now as a pass rusher, it

875
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: wasn't quite you know, where it needed to be. And

876
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: I think the whole risk thing impacted him a lot

877
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: of that because his game as a pass rusher is power,

878
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: and not having the ability to use that took a

879
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: lot away.

880
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: From his game.

881
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: But love him as a player, Love how tough he is.

882
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll take the bully on my team any

883
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: day of the week.

884
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: That's what his nickname. I call him the Bulley.

885
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: And you can tell when he's not out there or

886
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: something's not right because the impact is not as great

887
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: when he's done on the field. Impacts a lot of

888
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: different ways. It's not just going to be sack numbers, right.

889
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, we know that he's had ten sax seasons

890
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: two years in a row before last year, but he

891
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: in so many other ways just pushes people around.

892
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: He does.

893
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: And I will let me just add this, I'm excited

894
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: about that position group. I'd love to see him add

895
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: to it because I don't think you can ever have

896
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: enough edge rushers pass rushers. And I thought they did

897
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: a great job in the undrafted market last year with

898
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: Danny Strigo and bj Green.

899
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: And I love the way that Strigo is.

900
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: So dependable on first and second down and he's a

901
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: great effort pass rusher. He's not an elite pass rusher

902
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: as far as moves or anything of that nature. BJ's

903
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: got some twitch and BJ, if you look at it

904
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: from an opportunity standpoint, his production from a percentage standpoint,

905
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: might be as good as anybody, if not better than

906
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: anybody on the roster. I mean for the number of sacks.

907
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: And of course then if you didn't have the the

908
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: bad penalties that were called on him on a couple

909
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: of sacks, his production I think far exceeded anybody as

910
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: a pass rusher on the team as far as success rate.

911
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: You know, given the opportunities, the percentage success rate on

912
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: pass rush, and you know, if you needed to go

913
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: get a veteran defensive end, like last year, they got

914
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: Ogba in late April and he didn't give you but

915
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: he's been he's played football, and he's been around it.

916
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: In theory, they thought that he could produce a little

917
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: bit more. Didn't work out. But you can sign guys

918
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: like that a little later in the offseason too. There'll

919
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: be some guys, yeah, exactly, But I mean, I think

920
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: you're really excited about Strago and BJ Green.

921
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: I mean, am I like those guys absolutely? But what

922
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: I like to add more comedy.

923
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: You always looked to add to that position, and UH

924
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: and and draft Capital. Would it be a high draft pick.

925
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: I don't see that, because they need defensive tackle. I

926
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: think it's that's where. I think that's where.

927
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, again, you can't force it. It's gotta, it's gotta.

928
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: It's got to happen organically where value meets need at

929
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: that at that perfect time.

930
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: I mean we kind of.

931
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: We brushed over this earlier talking about draft picks and

932
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: where they are. They're fifty six right now. That's their

933
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: first pick in the second round.

934
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: It's a good number, by the way, really.

935
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: Good depends on the team and yeah, no, it's a

936
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: really good time. Of course, I'm messing with you. I know,

937
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm totally messing with you. I mean, it was good

938
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: for one team in New York, it wasn't for the other.

939
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: I'm get that's good.

940
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: So how do the Jaguars? Can they sneak back in

941
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: the first round? Like what would be up James's sleeve

942
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: to make that happen. Well, and here's why I don't

943
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: see that happening is is what's the philosophy that James

944
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: comes from?

945
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: F M picks? Right?

946
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: Ye?

947
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so when you when you come from that,

948
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 2: that means that.

949
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you're willing to give up

950
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: so much to get one pick when your philosophy is

951
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: f them picks. Right, Well, they had two different philosophies.

952
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean they've done it both ways. Yeah, but overall

953
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: they have been f them picks. But then they have

954
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: stood pat with some of their first round And what

955
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: did they just do with McDuffie. Yeah, right, traded picks again.

956
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: To get a premium cornerback from Kansas City. The Rams

957
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: did so.

958
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see them sneaking back into the

959
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: first round. I really don't. I think James Gladson, if

960
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: you were asking them, hey, look, if you could have

961
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: a mid first round pick or two second round picks,

962
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: what do you think he would take? Yeah, you're right,

963
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: I'd be curious to hear the answer that we need

964
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: to ask him that question. Well, I mean it all

965
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of depends on That's a good one, because he

966
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: can't change on the night of the draft if something's

967
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: not going your way ahead of you.

968
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: I think it's it's an interesting question. I mean, as

969
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: far as do.

970
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: You need more bodies, and if you look at the

971
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: premium bodies, but if you look at the value chart,

972
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: the value chart would tell you that the first round

973
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: pick is probably worth more, you know, because you know

974
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: they remember the charge they assigned numbers too. But I

975
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: just get the feeling that if he had two first

976
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: round picks, he would be very happy and maybe more

977
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: content to have the two second round picks as opposed

978
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: to a mid to late first round pick.

979
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: Maybe.

980
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you also get the fifth of your option

981
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: on well, you get the fifth of your option. But

982
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: and it's not as sexy to have a second round pick.

983
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: It's not as much. It's not talked about on the

984
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: national level, you know, and so but I just think

985
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: I think that would be a really interesting question for him,

986
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: if if you had the choice between a late first

987
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: round pick or two picks in the middle of the

988
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: second round, what would you rather have? Interesting, very interesting lines.

989
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: It's a great question.

990
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: We'll ask him. Maybe we'll ask him.

991
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: We'll ask him, why aren't we getting Boselli and him?

992
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: Now? Well, we had James last week.

993
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: James he's great, Yeah, he's great, he's always great.

994
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: Why don't we having him now? I mean, I mean,

995
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: like a week we had him, like last week, Let's

996
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: get him.

997
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: Everyone just go back to JAG's h Q. Yes, in

998
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: the off season, Yes, I like that. We put we

999
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: have seen Baseli in week once a month. Maybe Biselli's

1000
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: here somewhere, clearly, no idea.

1001
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him either. He might not be here.

1002
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he's taking a vacation. Maybe so,

1003
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: But I've been in here for the whole off seat.

1004
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him once. He's working too hard. You

1005
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: weren't here last week. I know I was on vacation.

1006
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: I know where you were. I was on vacation.

1007
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: But you're back now. I am back back for a

1008
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: little bit and we'll do this show again next.

1009
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: Looking forward to that.

1010
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: Jeff Logoman, I'm j P. Shadrick. All right. Thanks to

1011
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato, him, David, Choe, Brent Reaber, our entire crew,

1012
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: and thanks to you for listening and watching it. Saguars

1013
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:07,040
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